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There are multitude of reasons why a gambler may be banned in a casino. Whether it is because of suspicious activity or misconduct, the casino doesn't just ban or restrict a gambler for no valid reason. But it seems like these restricted gamblers have found a way to still gamble. There is a group (https://identityweek.net/gambling-group-use-aliases-of-other-players-to-continue-betting/) of people who would "borrow" the identity of others to continue betting. They would use other people's identification documents such as passports or driver's licenses. They would give it up once the rewards have been collected.

This article warns people about their privacy and is encouraging us to keep our information private as to not be stolen and used by other people for any illicit activities. Some people may allow their identity to be borrowed for a price of money but remember that if one of these restricted gamblers do anything illegal with your identity, it is you who will be in trouble.

There are other ways for a casino to ban a gambler but gamblers seem to always find a way which is just a tedious cycle for the casinos. What are your thoughts? Because even if they ban the ip address, gamblers can still use a vpn. Are there other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good?

No one want to pass kyc with there own personal documents that's why many re try to use another person documents by browsing or bought from black market. there is no problem still a casino site thik it as subspecies. They run into trouble when a casino site wants to freeze funds and verify documents when someone keeps depositing and withdrawing huge amounts of money. If the documents cannot be fully verified then they are restricted

I think the gambling system has many loopholes. And I guess it won't really be made perfect.

The age limit, for example, something that should be implemented very strictly, can easily be surpassed by minor gamblers. A single click of the "I confirm that I'm aged 18 blah blah blah" and you're good to go.

As regards identity borrowing, there are in fact services offering KYC to those who can't pass it because of certain restrictions. It's not just available to casino users but also to exchange users and other platforms.

A gambler will definitely do anything to keep playing and regardless of all the exceptions and prohibitions that have been given by gambling sites, paying money and borrowing other people identities will always be the main way for those who want to gamble without having to use their own data.
Someone will not think twice, they will definitely give it because there is reward of money, especially for those who really need it and it will be difficult for gambling sites to really handle all problems like this, impossible about restrictions forever because there are many ways that gamblers can do.

If you really understand that there is actually no Casino that wants to ban gamblers because they create sites for profit issues not as a community. But the problem is they need to make some policies regarding underage gamblers so that KYC is enforced so as not to get into trouble with the law. But what happens is the opposite, the issue of KYC identity can always be manipulated and now they are much smarter than their parents so that teenagers are involved in gambling.

Casinos will never completely ban gamblers because this is a business for them and what needs to be reviewed is how the gamblers themselves can control and parents also need to control their children so that they do not get involved in irresponsible gambling.

➥ First, no one can stop those people as long as gambling is done online. Even if every login session must be followed by facial verification, they can still get around it.

➥ Second, why are you asking that, are you one of the online casino owners? if not, then it is none of your business to ask that, let it be the business of the online casino owners.

Banning a gambler now doesn’t stop them from gambling with the current system of casino. They will either use other person’s account to play, like you stated. or can use others person’s information to create an account. So banning them doesn’t stop them from gambling.
Here’s what I think could be best to do if they want to ban a gambler for life. They need to upgrade there system in a way that anyone who wants to gamble will be requested of their Face ID to log in to their account. This way they’ll know who’s behind the account. Then they can dictate a gambler who’s been ban

This is a typical example of a thread where no one reads the source behind it.

And look that the article is short, eh? Four short paragraphs.

If someone had read it (apart from the OP) they would see that it's not about addicts, it's more about an organized group that the bookies have banned from playing more (which happens many times to winning bettors in sports betting) and have found a way to bypass the ban to keep making money.

If it is online gambling it is difficult to stop people who have been restricted in their gambling because they will do anything to be able to gamble, unless gambling face to face with the gamblers directly and in accordance with their real identity then those who have been restricted will not be able to gamble or borrow other people's identities, but it seems impossible for casinos online to implement something like this because in addition to threatening player security, user identities are also unsafe because their faces are visible. But currently that is the only way to eradicate gamblers who cheat.

There are lots of services who sell such data. The last time i saw about 10 identify packs for $1. Name, surname, birthdate, passport, some other data.
The employees from government organizations, banks, mobile operators, etc sell it for someone in darknet and anyone can buy it.
Add e-sim or virtual number and you are ready to register again and again.

If the casino has no KYC during the registration you can cheat casino this way for some time. Of course, they will ban you, but new account costs less than $1, 1 win is enough for 10-20 accounts.

But i think that it can`t become a serious problem for the owner of such data. He always can prove that his data was used by someone else.

yeah, there is a thousand ways to conceal you real identity nowadays, If I am not mistaken there is some thread here in the forum that discusses about why people sell their gambling accounts. Now I know maybe some people are getting banned or they just don't want to use their real identities to play on that site. I mean the are many of possibility here.

Casino has their own rule and some casino are strict and some are dont. If we read their TOS carefully I believe its going to be fine and there is no reason casino banned us.

The forum here is full of scam accusations where gambling platforms have refused to pay out winnings. In 99% of cases, it turns out that someone tried to cheat the casino and, for example, played from banned countries with a VPN, used multiaccounting or carried out other practices excluded in the Terms of Use.

The casino therefore already has a very good lever: KYC and further identity checks when paying out winnings. Although it certainly costs them a lot in terms of support in such cases, it is still better than incurring penalties if they were to make payouts to blocked countries.

It would be possible to carry out the incoming identity checks during registration, but we all know how the crypto community feels about such things. This would put off a lot of customers in advance, even those who have nothing bad in mind.

Casinos can’t do anything at present; these cheaters will always have the way to exploit the casinos. They have contracts that provide them fake identities and have premium proxies or VPNs to change locations. The only possible way for the casino is to do a video call verification, but I am sure many have found a way of bypassing it also. If a casino bans you, then go for others; why to run behind that old casino? I still don’t get it.

It is becoming difficult to keep personal information secret. Recently, there was leak of the details of civil servants in my country. Almost all their personal and financial information they submitted to the government for employee verification were in public domain. This information can be used by anybody for KYC.

If someone doesn't want to pass KYC with his personal information, then he should search for non-KYC casinos or quit gambling. Using another person's details is against the Tos of most casinos and is also a criminal offense. The casino has the right to sanction the account based on their rules.     

Controlling this issue is the most challenging in online gambling. Currently, KYC cannot prevent minors from gambling. Taking some steps can help the casino ban or restrict a gambler for the good of the casino.
1. Using information from various national identity cards for KYC.
2. Completing KYC using face verification or fingerprint matching the national identity card.
3. Finger or face verification every time you log in. It must match the information used during KYC.
4. A file can be opened for gamblers of all sites or casinos. Where all the gambling information of each gambler will be there, how many shots a gambler has taken in gambling, how much money he has lost, how much he has received and how trustworthy he is. A file can be opened for inter-gamblers with this information. If a gambler is involved in a scam, all casinos or gambling sites will know that information.

Gamblers can be controlled by taking some more steps and can be banned or restricted from gambling by a person.

Yeah, this happens. In case some gamblers are curious, check Telegram in gamblers groups and you will find a lot of people trying to buy an account from popular online casinos or sports bookies up to the lowest of them.
The first time I saw this I was quite shocked that someone would really give up their accounts that were already KYC verified. Yes, we are jeopardizing our profile by doing this, and in case the account was used for money laundering then we should not be surprised if suddenly the authorities are in our doorstep knocking on our doors.
One reason that I could only surmise is the financial problem of most people so they will not even hesitate to sell it to others. Another reason is that it's a syndicate group stealing profiles and selling those accounts after creation with a different identification.

Yes of course, there are very many services offering Proxy KYC services, and they can be found in forums, Facebook groups and marketed on illegitimate sites. These proxy KYC is passed through borrowed identities and fake ones too. People leasing their identities for financial gains should be more aware that they are putting themselves in harms way if those that purchased their identities commit offenses.

Fake identities are frequently being detected recently and those that use them most times get their accounts blocked and funds forfeited. I also believe that reasons why most people opt for proxy KYC services is because most of them gamble from restricted countries and cannot provide their identities. There are always lots of loopholes and online casinos can only try, but people always tend to get their way most of the time.

Gamblers will found a way to keep playing gambling without we can think how they can do that. Casino can still block them by always checking all of their members and find the suspicious thing that their members doing. Maybe the casino can know by identifying the pattern that those gamblers doing so they can ask for more verification to make sure that their members are the same person with their documents. VPN can help gamblers to keep playing gambling on the same casino but if the casino strictly to that, they will know but we don't know how the casino can find the members who break their rules.

If there’s a will, there’s a way....that’s the gambler’s mindset. But let’s not ignore the risks here. Using someone else’s identity puts the account owner in serious danger. What if the gambler uses the account for money laundering? The registered owner could end up in big trouble for breaking the law.

This method isn’t worth it, and anyone getting paid to do this should think long and hard. The risks are massive, and the small reward isn’t worth the chance of landing in jail.

I think gambling system have those loopholes on purpose. If they close all of them, have strict customer service policy, force to pass KYC whenever they think gambler made a strange move or force to do it on registration stage, no one would gamble. Casinos must stay friendly or have such image. A lot of people go there only because they have heard how to cheat, heard someone won easily, heard stories of success, saw a win strategy. I think casinos close their eyes of several things and rule violations, just to make customers return.

This is not actually about KYC and from the article, those guys do not care about privacy but they are after profits. What I understand from the article is that they use others documents to probably create a new account in order to enjoy the welcome bonus that most of gambling platforms offer new users. I pity people that give out their documents to them for peanut amount.

The victims obviously have no idea of what might come up in the future. I see no reason for handling out your personal identification documents to anyone irrespective of what they are using it for. The meager amount offered doesn't worth the consequences ahead. I think it's high time people start learning about privacy protection.

Well, I believe it would be easy to catch out, knowing that it could easily be a standout and that there's a reason the people are banned. It's just how people are, and they find ways to make it work if they are forbidden.

It's complex, and maybe more behavioral tactics are needed to see the possibility of catching them again.

This is why we should be careful of where we pass our personal information to nowhere we do kyc verification.. we should remember that ones your data gets online, it is there and cannot be removed.. it's obvious that these people are buying peoples kyc information from the dark web and using it to sign up on casino. I can't imagine what would happen if they end up committing a big crime on that accounts and creating a problem for the real owners of the data they had used to pass through kyc. We should just avoid passing kyc unnecessarily so it don't end up getting into the wrong hands..

If they can able to provide KYC to reputable casino then continue if they want to gamble since with this this will never give them any issues.

But if they can't afford to do KYC then just leave it since there's nothing gonna happen and they cannot change what current implementation has been done. But in the case that they are been restricted in the casino due to some regulation happened maybe best for anyone to follow what has been implemented by the casino since bypassing or doing any forms of cheating may result to something that they don't want to encounter. So gamble with clean hands and don't cheat anything just to continue or try to take advantage on something.

I don't think that there are other ways that a casino can ban or restrict a gambler for good. The best a casino can do is to beef up their security to prevent hackers. Identitfy theft or even willingly giving up one's identity for a fee would always continue. The but is going to bear the consequences for this, it is not the casino but the accomplice. The people who do this are people with low income who need a little extra to survive they are the easiest victims of this. Someone who is in the middle class or at least isn't living in poverty won't risk it because their level of need has gone past above food, clothing, or shelter.

Wait, if the casino already ban that gambler's account, it means he will not able to gamble in that casino again because he still live in the same place. Not many casinos allow multiple accounts usage, that's why having borrowed/purchased identity won't help.

It's more make sense if they gamble on another casino, there are so many casinos available.

As you have already mentioned because it's very hard for a gambling site to have a thorough and a total control over the gamblers who are gambling in their site, what I can only say is that they should be more strict in checking some of the verifications and if possible they should implement a live video kyc to detects whether it's the real owner of the kyc that is in control of the gambling site. Then again, they should always check the kyc origin or residence and also detects the IP and if the IP doesn't correlate with the country of signup or login they should restrict such account for good.

Then about Identity management; To me it is very risky to keep selling one personal details or identification methods to other people because this is the most deadliest thing they are doing because if there are any money laundry that arises within the casino and through the identification someone that sold of his identity then they would have to track down the person who happens to sell of his documents to a stranger.

Unfortunately, there are many casinos that have banned people without valid reasons and people spend many months complaining on forums and casino review sites so that their problems can be resolved. But it is useless and the owners of these scam casinos are never punished. Regarding this issue of KYC and some people taking the risk of buying or selling identities, honestly in my opinion it is something that is not worth it. Because when casinos see that the person has won a lot of money, they ask for additional documents such as a selfie holding the ID, so it is useless and it is not worth buying ID to do KYC at some casino.

I wonder why someone will sale their identity to someone else, whether it's for financial gains or as a help, it doesn't make any sense, they should first wonder why the receiver wouldn't use their own identities. Gambling platforms have been tagged by many, including governments as a means of money laundering, so people who sale or give their accounts to others needs to consider the magnitude of risks that they're putting themselves into. Anything that involves your KYC is your property in the eyes of the law, if any crime is committed with it, that means that you'll be held responsible.

I wont stop saying, that gambler and especially addicted gambler (like alcoholics) are very creative people. They always find a way to either gamble or to find money for gambling, even though they are banned in casinos, in loans, have problems and so on. I believe that it is human nature. That if a person took a strong decision to do something, nothing will stop him. Using fake or someone else ID, vpn is only hip of the iceberg, as those bastards always find a way to play.

Left for the casinos alone, they don't care about KYC but your money, since government regulations are involved, KYC becomes the only way for casinos to keep their gamblers identity incase government asks for it to avoid them being shutdown by the government if they don't comply. A gambler that knows KYC is mandatory will want to use others documents to bypass his way into gambling. However, it's not only in gambling that using someone's identity to gain access to somewhere happens but it happens in many scenarios. Someone very close to you might have access to your documents and use it for his KYC what would you do about that when you are not aware. At least people that sell their documents can understand when they shoot themselves on their own foot but what about those that are not aware of it.

The answer to the question is a capital "NO", because though a casino can directly ban an individual from gambling, both online and physical, one thing certain herr is that they can never indirectly ban him/her from gambling, irrespective of whatever measures they take. So in such scenario, the best approach to resolving ban evasion is for a casino to implement the use of strong A.I which monitors all gambling activities and group those likely to have a similar consistent gambling pattern over time. As that's the only way to discover those who may have by passed a ban evasion to still gambling on the same casino while using other people's KYC details.

Until recently, there were groups on Facebook where many people traded gambling accounts that had KYC, or they sold with a high level for a little money or it could be that they could no longer afford to gamble... Another reason may make sense where they want to gamble not using their real identity so they buy from others.

This practice still exists today... Although the casino applies many rules in it, there are still many loopholes that can be tricked by other gamblers, so it will not be surprising if other people's identities are used or sold for a little money.

I guess we are talking about various scammers here... I think it's easy to find a way around some bans, but is it worth the risk for something like that? So I guess the scammers do it to get some money out somehow, and if they ever get caught in the end and the casino confiscates the remaining money, maybe they are in profit and want to keep doing the same thing over and over again.

I don't think there is any way a casino can ban someone forever... it's too easy to change internet provider, use a VPN, borrow/buy someone's documents, change phone number, etc. But again the question arises why do it and go through all that?

Casinosites generally do not require KYC, but in some cases KYC is required even though the information is confidential. If a gambler wants to withdraw a large amount of money, his affairs may be scrutinized, this will usually depend on the team management of the casino sites.
 And there are many people who try to steal other people's accounts and if they want to withdraw money from that person's account then KYC may be needed because it is to verify that the right person is withdrawing the money properly. Generally, I think it is normal to do KYC verification when withdrawing large amounts of money from casino sites.

What an antithetic situation! No one wants to pass KYC still there are those that are ready to sell their information and data for the use of others in their gambling in exchange for some bulks.  I think people that sell out their information for strangers use do so out of proper ignorance of the underlying consequences the besiege such action.

However, it is not in every situation where casinos suspect some funny gambling behaviours of a gamblers leading to their ban that is truly a reflection of their suspicion. The implication of this act of ban carried out by casinos on users basically (out of suspicion) can lead to some users being wrongly accused and victimized.

For online yes, there could be a way to bypass this restrictions, like what you have said, they can uses other person's identification and then go and play again. But this loophole can be a pros or cons for casino themselves.

They can uses it as a weapon for players, like if they suspect that something is not right with this KYC, then they can suspend the user itself. So it's up to the users to proved that he is the person that he is saying and in the documents itself. Or casinos are right about their hutch that this users are not telling the truth and that they just exploited that loophole that everyone knows.

We are talking about online gambling, right?

Casinos mostly ban users abusing bonus system since we don't have anything to do , like banned for misconduct and yeah they can simply borrow the identity of others for a certain price. Those can be stolen identity or simple people are ready to do that like for a price of 50 or 100 dollars which shows that they are unaware of privacy and identity theft.

Casinos should implement strict KYC rules to prevent this like live video verification from time to time but this only affect the casino because not everyone will be ready to verification once in a while.

Of course the casinos can not just decided to ban it user without being faulted for violations.
It could be of cheats or the user not being able to completely process a given procedure after several warnings that the duration given as a grace has limitedly exhausted.
So the penalty has to be served either by ban or temporarily restricted.

I think some casinos permits the revalidation of users to creat another account with their credentials if their formal account was banned or restricted but may void the users profile to their sites depending on the highly offense committed.

But that apart, I agree with you to be careful with how we exposes our documents because it could be used for some sorts of events that might implicate us on something we are innocent of.

          -     It is true and correct what you say op, where the reputed casinos here in the crypto space do not just threaten their users if they do not see bad activity on their platform. Because they are also doing some kind of investigation.

Then do not forget that there are other casino platforms here in the crypto industry that are also exploitative, where when they see that their players are going to withdraw a large amount because of the size of the winnings, they suddenly lower the gambler's account without any resistance.

Any casino firm that bans its users because of any suspicious act found on them should have in mind that the same banned user will find ways to register with them with any other identity to continue from where they stopped.

Nowadays, it is not easy to ban someone totally from what their interest are all the time, without having them back some other ways. They will borrow or pay for another person's identity, as the case may be so that they can beat the ban level against them. It's those whose identity will be used in that, is who will bear the cause of their action for letting their identity out for money or because of trust they have for the person.

Any individual that is given out their details for such purpose is putting their self at risk because if anything happens on the process, it's not the person that used their details that will be held accountable for it but rather they will account for it. Some persons get blind by rewards and profit but they don't look at the risk of what they are about to do. If casino bands their customer for a valid reason, then the person should try a different casino.

Definitely there would always be a way out for anything that people derives joy and more especially something that you get money from it, this is why sometimes people tend to use different description about them so they won't be noticed by the casino to avoid being banned. But I know for sure one can't hide under the mask for long and there would be ways they would be caught and their true identity revealed.

But methods like this are extremely risky, especially for the document owner. Personally, I would never allow anyone to use my identity to cheat—it’s not worth it, especially if you get caught. Cases like these are all too common, and it’s usually the owner who suffers the consequences while the person using the stolen identity gets away freely. It’s a reckless decision, really, especially when there are plenty of other sites to use instead of forcing ourselves to use one that no longer allows us.

This is exactly why casinos have tightened their KYC requirements. In fact, some even ask for a selfie as part of the verification process. That’s how far KYC approval has evolved to ensure security and fairness.

If all the gamblers and the Casinos reason as one in regards to those who are banned there is no way they would have find another means to get back to the casinos even if they use a different IP or vpn because after registration it will still fall under the requirements of documents verification and there is no method they would use to bypass such way, so if perhaps all the gamblers will be very discipline that no matter the relationship they have with such person they would never share there gambling accounts and also if people will be educated enough to see the danger or crime of selling there private data for money there is no way all this bypassing would have happened, a lot of people are suffering in prison today out of ignorant of giving somebody there identity without knowing there purpose for it.

What's the need of using someone else's identity for our personal needs? If one is into some illegal activity, then they might think of it. When a person copes with the terms of service from the gambling platform, there is nothing to worry about, and even if some issue arises, we can seek the support of the team and sort out the problem. Recently, one incident took place in which a gambling platform was developed, and in the name of betting, more illegal funds have been transacted from different addresses. It is not the gamblers, but the people who do illegal businesses try to borrow and use others documents. It is our responsibility to analyse and act if someone requests documents providing benefits.

You have already said it. A gambler who is ban from a casino can easily resolve to us VPN but I think such gambler may still be caught if he temporally succeeds in that because he will be flagged. Some gamblers are actually dubious and tries to cheat all the time, not following the casino rules and that is why they get banned.

I don't think there is other ways apart from VPN or going through another registration with a different identify and IP, otherwise the solution is to visit and sign up with a new casino and try to follow the rules to avoid being banned again.

It's called "illegal" because people can't stop it or that there are methods to overcome blocking provisions that security made. Personally, I have no idea where it won't be THAT invasive. If that's possible then yeah, various means become possible like making the police involved, monitoring of user actions (yeah, as I said, invasive) and stuff like that. Sadly, gambling on a casino where you're banned isn't THAT big of an offense in the grand scheme of things.

If a gambler gets ban because of not following the rules of the casino, there will still be a way for a gambler to come back to Continue with gambling activity. Gambling companies won't be too strick on their customers by following up and not allowing them to use their platform because if they should do that they will be the one to be at lose because they need people who will use their platform, they only need to regulate their platform for gamblers to make use of it in the right way.

The reason why casino ban gamblers who are not following the rules is to make them to do right thing if they have opportunities to get back to the casino again. Reason for ban is not to totally stop gamblers from using the platform again.

If all sorts of ways have been done by the casino to minimize the arrival of illegal gamblers but still make them succeed in entering, then there is no other way and just let them do it. What is clear is that the casino has imposed restrictions according to applicable provisions, regardless of the actions outside the gamblers looking for ways to still be able to escape, then that is no longer the realm of the casino.
With the note:
- The casino is not harmed by gamblers
- Gamblers who are prohibited from playing in their own way because when they do suspicious actions then they already know the risk of losing everything.

It’s definitely illegal, but since it’s not their real identity, many don’t mind as long as they can gamble. In fact, some even buy fake documents from the black market to verify their accounts at casinos. As long as the casino doesn’t require a selfie, they can get away with it easily.

However, casinos have gotten stricter with verification processes lately, and selfies have become one of the most critical requirements. This makes it harder to use stolen IDs, but some people still find workarounds by hiring someone to verify the account for them using their identity. And since money could buy anything, there are plenty of people who’d take the job if the pay is good. It’s shady business, but as long as it works for them, they’ll keep doing it.

In fact, there will always be a way to get around the exception, especially if a gambler is addicted, which usually doesn't care, they will do anything just to be able to realize their desires and habits to gamble, you said the right thing OP that now IP exceptions can be very easy to get around and I have also done it where one of the casinos excluded me with an IP scenario but when I tried to use a VPN I could freely enter and register, but of course I don't think I would ever want to lend or give my identity to anyone else including some of my friends even if they gave me some money, it's too dangerous and the impact can be very serious, it is not uncommon for cases of identity abuse to trigger many problems.

Imagine the pure amount of black market KYC documents... Every single person who gave their documents to an ICO is going to have to worry about identity theft for the rest of their lives...

Getting banned from casinos is the least damaging thing they can do with someone else's KYC.

If people aren’t fully aware of the risks and they’re getting paid to do it, some might be tempted to sell their identity just to create online gambling accounts. This could be especially true in countries where the poverty rate is high. For $100 to $200, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone agrees to sell their documents for account verification.

I have seen for myself that an addicted gambler will do anything to continue gambling. Anyway the nowadays people are more addicted to online gambling so you cannot stop the urge even if you want to. Unless gamblers face gambling directly and according to their true identity. In that case they will use the identity of others and may even use the identity of their own family. Even this is impossible to implement in online casinos because there are situations where faces are visible. So it is possible to identify fraudulent gamblers by making accounts visible by identity.

Casino has their own way to detect VPN when use by players. I think the change of IP can be easily dodge through changing an ISP provider and other tweak which the casino can’t detect.

It’s impossible for an online casino to totally ban a user since there’s no way to physically verified whether a user can borrow someone identity or not. There’s a lot of people living in 3rd world country that is willing to sell their identity for money.

The responsible gambling clause is the only self defense mechanism of casino if ever an addicted user keep dodging the restrictions.

If your friends ask your document to verify their account on the casino, you should not give it to them because that is break the casino rules. They can blacklist your document and when you want to playing gambling on the same casino, the casino will not allow you and will detect you have multiple account. You need to protect your document and not giving that to other people because they can abuse your document easily.

Those gamblers can be restricted by the casino by ban or block their access to that casino. Even if they use VPN, casino will know and do something to them. If they use your document to pass the KYC and the casino know about that, you can get limitation from the casino and the worst thing is casino can ban you from their casino.

I'm sure that most copies of documents end up on the black market not through the fault or stupidity of their owner, but because many public and private companies that deal with personal information employ people who don't care about other people's privacy, they just want money. That's why they sell user document databases at the first opportunity. I have noticed that in the last few years the number of cases of illegal use of other people's documents has increased significantly. I think these numbers will be even higher in the future.

Sadly, casino can detect whether specific is banned from other casino when they submit KYC they are same game provider with all their games. Game provider usually the one who flagged user when they are using multiple account from different casino while the account connected has a violation.

You can’t experience a hassle free gambling life if your identity was already tagged as problematic gambler because you will experience the same on other casino once they are detected the connection.

Does this pattern not follow the same logic as them getting an account that has been verified already? Or purchasing documents to verify account? The reason I asked this is because I have seen several newbie accounts come to the forum and create thread about them having some verified account in some well known casinos so I was thinking if that’s the reason those accounts are being sold? I know a genuine person won’t just go to a site register an account submit his personal documents and then come to a forum and start selling it without being cautious of who is going to buy the account.

It should be obvious that if someone were to make us an offer like that, we must reject it, after all if what that person was doing was legal and they were simply a good gambler, then they could gamble at any of the thousands of casinos that exist and be done with it, if they need another identity to keep doing what they are doing, then it should be clear they are doing something illegal, and when they eventually get caught, it will be you the one to pay the consequences.

The casinos are limited to banning IP devices and the information provided by the player because this is an online tracking system; they have no way to track players who pay people to verify or sell their account or use both IP and device. They take action based on the provided information.
But if the player continues to cheat, the casino can ban him again. Casinos are good at catching cheaters because they know there are players who cheat the system to have an advantage over the house.

To combat this method of using "fake" identities, the casino can use the requirement for video identification. That is, a ban on withdrawing a deposit without completing this procedure. Although I am an opponent of KYC, I can't imagine any other ways to combat fake "identities".

It is unlikely that "your identity" will be used in completely criminal schemes and in the case of a casino, a surprise may be a sudden ban of your identity on playing in a specific casino. Or on all of them? Because of a joint blacklist.

There is more than one casino in the world, right? So if a gambler is not blacklisted forever, what are the problems with moving to another casino?

And gamblers don't necessarily have to steal "other people's identities" and use them in dubious schemes in casinos, because gamblers can use the accounts of friends or relatives.

I expect that in the future, one of the effective ways to ban any gambler will appear. This will be achievable only with the progress of technology, namely, with the total tokenization and digitalization of everything and everyone. With the introduction of the CBDC and the linking of specific wallets and biometrics, it will be impossible to outwit a casino with a fake identity. Transparent blockchain and AI will allow casino to immediately notice the catch.

As a matter of fact vpn may not help  should casino has the sophisticated software with capability to gather the  digital fingerprint of the machines used by the banned customers. In this case to procceed gambling  those users would have to change their devices which might be too costly for them. Should this happened with me I would probably just leave that casino l^{uckily there are many places around to gamble}.

Usually, casinos don't ban people without a reason but there are many cases when they ban people to not pay them their winning but when this is the case, no one tries to register for the second time.

Btw that's very common when gambler asks you to register an account with your ID and then they use it to play because their old account got blocked. Of course that's expected from an addict or unfair gambler but the sad part of this is that too many people don't care about their identity. I know lots of people around me who registered an account for their addicted gambler friend and then they had a problem getting employed in public service because of having an account in a casino.
I also know many people who were uploading pictures of their verification documents to get $25 airdrop from Blockchain.com

Today casinos are advanced enough to identify those who were once blocked. Many addicts get blocked because they use offensive words in public chats and very frequently they use offensive words against live casino dealers. They can't change their habit and end up banning with a different account. Some make mistakes and log in via the same IP or the VPN. I'd say that casinos fight very well against abusers.

A gambler is a gambler and unlike any other addiction, an addicted gambler will always find a way to gamble, even if it requires them to borrow or steal an identity, just to play that sure odds they have or envision would be their big break.
Ignorance sometimes does more harm and causes more pain than knowing the right thing to do and simply just avoiding to do so. Thus, it is better for banned gamblers to find another platform rather than use a wrong or misleading identity on same site they were banned.

Right, they can find ways, anyone can find a way. If I am to find a way I will use my brother or sister's ID. I can easily submit other docs if the casinos request more.

Casinos can let them play until they deposit more funds inside their accounts before busting them. Freeze the funds so that they will not do it again. but then of course this is not the right thing to do. I think I read somewhere this had happened to someone too bad for him he used someone else account but the casino allowed him to withdraw the funds.

All this will make it increasingly difficult to pass KYC on various platforms. Of course, this will have a negative impact on ordinary users who register using their own documents. Attackers will always find a way to bypass KYC. I don't know if it is possible to pass KYC with video identity verification using dipfake, but it seems to me that it can be done for a lot of money if desired. What it boils down to is that abuse leads to increased security. In my opinion it's a race that will never end.

Nowadays, it is not that difficult for people to use other people's identities to do KYC. Moreover, people's personal data is now easily and cheaply traded in online groups - and what's even funnier is that there are people who are willing to give their identities to be used by them for a small fee. But there is nothing we can do about this, because no matter what, these people will continue to use other people's identities just to create new accounts on the casino platform. As long as they have access to new identities for their accounts, they will continue to do so. And I don't think all casinos have the same strict system regarding identity verification, so this loophole will continue to exist.

Actually most people does that to their friends and family and not not to everyone, because I don't see a possibility for someone to do such thing to somebody who you dong know, or you can't just see somebody for the first time and ask for his id for kyc. Most people who gave out there doceument never know the purpose of why it is collected. If they know they will not give. But my advice in regards to this statement, is that we should be careful when people ask us concerning our sensitive document or any important information relating to us, for security reasons because no body know the plan of the next person.

You sound as if you are working with gambling site to find a permanent way of blocking sturbon customer who find way to bypass the ban and continue, lolz anyway I don't know you can  check the next comentor.

The question you asked is really hard to answer without first thinking deeply about it, or trying to get ideas from other commenters..
But all the same, I guess the only way to permanently ban a gambler is to keep banning his or her account until he or she runs out of options to create new one..
The issue with borrowing other people's identity card to verify their account is one with a very simple solution, and the solution here is the introduction of live verification where the user will hold up that camera to his or her face, and the system will verify that the face matches the one on the submitted id card, if it doesn't, then it simply means that the gambler is trying to game the casino kyc system and such gambler can be banned immediately.

With the above, the issue of creating another account after a ban may be completely limited or eradicated because the gambler will no longer be able to use other people's identity to verify the account.

This is my thought.

In an online gambling platform, as long as the gambling platform does not impose a strict KYC where players have to do a video verification, or allow an anonymous gambling then it would be hard for the casino to restrict ban gambler from using their platform since these banned gambler will just register again bypassing the ban through creating a new account.

I do not think that an online casino can ban a player for good since they can be able to access the platform anytime this banned player wanted and I think the casino try to combat this exploit by implementing KYC before a player is able to withdraw any funds.  By that there is no reason for the gambler to use the platform because he won't be able to withdraw any of his winnings due to the restrictions imploemented.

Cheaters and violators are very innovative; they know how the system works and they will do things to bypass that; they will just change the provider and log in from a different device, but they will still be caught because some casinos are using Google coordinates to track your location. Even though you changed your IP and device, you might as well change your location.
So the point is that it's costly and takes too much effort to bypass the security, so its better just to abide by the terms and not cheat.

LOL, this is what often happens even Data managed by my government in Indonesia with many users can be hacked and traded with many identities that can be used for anything. And this is very easy to get now if it is indeed going to be used for gambling purposes.

And some people also consciously sell their IDs for just a few dollars only, and this has happened in almost all crypto and gambling sectors.
But more often than not, crypto projects require KYC and will then get quite expensive coin rewards.

If you would really be trying out to wander around on social media on which you would really be able to see those individuals who do offer such service on creating some fake id's with having fake information and names on which this is really that something be used by those people who are really that addicted to gambling on which with so much progress we do have into these years on which it will really be  that not hard on trying out to create or fabricate some fake ID's just to make use in to those other purposes on which this isnt really just that limited on gambling alone but also in other things well on which if they are really that addicted or really that wanting to deal up with something then they will really be finding up ways and methods on which they can make use of it.

If you are already that becoming a gambling addict then you would really be finding out ways and methods on which you could be able to play neither online or offline by using up those fake id's or information.
You wouldnt really be caring out as long you do able to cater out your addiction on which this is something which is really that typical. One of the main reasons on why gambling is really that profitable
business into its owners due to that common human being behavior on which this is something that cant be easily be avoided.

There's always a way and if you are really that wanting or liking to do something then its part of human nature that you will really be trying out to look for some loopholes as long you could be able to push through then this would really be that your main priority. There are really just that those instances that you might fail but doesnt mean that you will be stopping there.
People would be only stopping on the time or moment that they do failed up or seeing having no chances. Restrictions or bans will really be imposed depending on the situation
but we do know that there would really be those people who would really be doing something forcibly.

This type of gambling is not new here, and in my ear, even in this forum, there have been some few times I have come across threads on the service board where the OP asks to buy some high-profile gambling account of a specific casino, and they must be verified, which they could also be used for such type of betting. 
 
On the other hand, sometimes the user doesn't just give out their information willingly for it to be used by others to register and gamble with them on a gambling platform, but their identity can be bought from dark webs, where, from one breach of a platform, they submitted it to their information, which has been extracted and sold out.
 
It's very important we just try as much as possible to always protect the limit at which we release our information to online platforms; you don't know which ones are selling them to third parties.

While you might argue it's a bit unfair to the casino that groups are creating arbitrage betting opportunities by taking over accounts that are freely lent to them, these bookmakers are making such huge profits that it's hard to have much sympathy when people are able to figure out a way to take money back from them. As long as there is no fraud taking place, like identity theft or using stolen cards, then good for the people that are allowing this to happen I say - if they were actually placing the bets directly and taking a small commission then it would be completely undetectable. It seems safe in the sense that no KYC documents are likely to be exposed after the account is validated, but I personally would never take the trade because it does still pose risks.

It will be difficult to limit them, because there are many ways they can access gambling sites, not only IP, but they can also use fake devices, so the stricter the casino site, the more they will find many ways to still be able to access online sites.

Things like this are proof that in the end, regardless of the existence of KYC or not, everything can still be tricked and in my opinion something like this is bound to happen and may even become a common situation even though this method is clearly against the rules because it could become a criminal act if it continues to be forced to use other people's data.

Not that KYC is a bad thing but on some occasions for some people who really want anonymity or people who are only focused on their desire for profit sometimes can do this way so that they remain unrecognizable and still want to do gambling.
Will this be a disadvantage? technically for casinos it may not be affected but it is a different story for people whose data is used, maybe this is also divided for those who consciously lend their data but what about data that is taken without the person's knowledge of course this will be very detrimental in the end.

More reasons why government still ban different casino due to common mistakes and act gamblers display. The best way IMO involves government ban. If this act continue I’m sure they’ll go as far as using personal verification for other purpose not just gambling leading to more risk. I’m not surprised seeing such news with the rate gamblers go just to play and win is unpredictable, how can one protect their details should be the important question now, nothing is safe especially when it’s expose to wider audience etc definitely or maybe they’re involved also.

Casinos will not be able to completely block players, because players have various ways to get past every block from the casino, they can even find ways that other players may not have thought of yet. Casinos can only reduce the abuse that players do in their casinos, but there will always be loopholes to fix, but this problem has always existed



When you have done KYC even just once and on a website that you believe is trustworthy, then the chance of your personal data being leaked is there, and our activity in the online world makes it difficult for us to keep our personal data safe, hackers will use methods to hack and steal people's personal data.

The cheater will still find a way to cheat the casino, even if it is tightened, the cheater will change their ways to keep breaking it. I think what casinos do to resolve their problem is take care of them. if that is indeed the casino case, invite them to come nicely, engage them in the discussion, and ask them what they want so that it continues to interfere with the business. Explain to them why their activities very disruptive to your business. So if they still remains like that, then your next action is call police and and track down where they live.

I have read the article to which you provided through the link, and have got the massage it is passing across which is a delicate message that people should be fully awear to avoid being set up. Because from this strategy a person may put you in trouble by just using your identity for registration of any only stuff that requires kyc. And if such register ACC is found with an ilicite or fraudulent activities the owner of the kyc document will be held responsible with or without your knowledge because your documents has proven to be you. The best way to stay safe is to be careful with who we give our identity documents to avoid being impersonated .

This just goes to show you how truly addictive and how much of a strong hold that gambling can have on any one person. Think about what you're saying? These folks have probably been kicked out to the curb, they have been shamed and thrown out! Yet they still come back and even risk themselves of being a complete identity fraud. Crazy stuff man.

Yes, if they return to the same casino and avoids the ban that they got, that is just show you that you are addicted to gambling. You don't know how to stop yourself from playing gambling and the intention to have another account in that casino proves to you that you can not let yourself stay away from gambling for a while. Yes, they even use other people's identities to verify the account and take the bonus. But they forget that the casino can know easily because they have a system that can check all of their members and make sure that they don't let the abuser comes.

Well, casinos will not just block your account, but I do not see it your way, they might do that for genuine or ingenuine reasons, we've read many cases and some casinos have even resolved some of them by taking responsibility and apologising to the customer. This proves that they can indeed make errors or even be overbearing in their service, that's why we should be making them accountable at times. Also, we have too many unscrupulous customers who are bent to cheat casinos and the bonus purpose example you cited is one out of many. But still, if such customers use the documents of their friends for verification and later abandon the account, this still means nothing. Why is the account blocked if I may ask you from your point?

The darknet is full of documents ready for sale. Packages of documents are sold for any needs and contain a lot of information. But besides this, some people are ready to provide their documents themselves for some temporary and small benefit. For me, this looks like "walking a tightrope," since once you show your identity online, you remain there forever, and the consequences for everyone can look extremely dangerous. Starting with loans taken out in someone else's name and ending with any crimes that may be of great interest to the police. There are many options here. Therefore, it is necessary not to scatter through verification every time you are asked, but to do it in extreme cases, each time protecting even the information provided.

Excessive addiction is difficult to cure and even if they are kicked out or humiliated it will not have any effect on them. Addiction in gambling does look abnormal because this kind of person will do anything to be involved in gambling, whether it is fraudulent or not. Even if the casino enforces strict rules, there are times when fraudsters will continue to find ways to do something to cheat. That happens because the level of intelligence of a person in cheating can be seen from how far they have mastered technology and now there are many people who have the quality to do it.

That is also a problem. Poor government governance of people's personal identities is something that needs to be considered, because often "criminals" use other people's personal data that they get from hacking government databases or data leak trading sites. This problem is morally detrimental to the people whose data is used because they don't know about the data and suddenly it is used either for crypto projects or registering on gambling sites.

There is no way to limit a gambler from continuing to access the casino because in this era of technological development, no matter how strong the casino is, in the end the gambler always has a way to be able to bet on a particular casino.
Now we are all here to give our respective opinions and for me I will give an example of a fiat online casino that always tries to block the IP and device of a gambler, they can still bet using their family member's account or their own friend's.
So the more technology develops, the casino will not be able to overcome this. Because out there there are so many very smart people.

A determined gambler will always find a way to circumvent restrictions if they are obsessive enough. A casino or sportsbook can only do so much.

The hope is that the casino or sportsbook have the technology and knowledgable online staff to catch the vast majority of attempts to bypass their restrictions.

That's right, I agree with your statement that even though we have protected our identity as best as possible, there are still other possibilities that could occur that could endanger our identity, such as leaks of public data in the government, and of course the ones who are to blame are those governments who are careless. in managing people's identity data, but for that problem I don't think there is anything we can do as a society apart from warning government officials to be more careful and more thorough in protecting people's identities in government, because it is not uncommon for such cases to occur which Many people feel at a loss when their data is misused by parties irresponsible people who ultimately cause a lot of problems in their lives.

When it comes to verification, there’s not much they can do if their KYC process only requires a basic ID. It’s easy enough to get a legit ID, even if the person doesn’t actually own the account. And even with stricter processes, people can still find ways around it. Ultimately, it’s up to the gambler to bypass restrictions. The casino’s job is just to verify and approve based on the documents provided, it’s not foolproof, but that’s the system.

People are really that too mindful about identity stuffs and other correlated aspects into it on which we do really prefer out on which kind of thing but we've been long time exposing ourselves about into those self information or identity related when dealing up with centralized services on which people do really just that not able to realize with. Although it cant be denied that there would really be those times or moments that you will really be thinking up with those informations that might leaked out specially on services that we do deal up online. This is why we would really be that too skeptical into this aspect and always wanting or loving on dealing up with those places on which it doesnt have any verification or having that KYC. If it turned out that KYC is being applied into something like buying up some good or whatever that correlated into it then
it will really be something which is really that too much and there would really be always those ways or loopholes on which people will really be trying out to look into and will really be that using up.

Casinos always have a statement that says, "You agree to all the terms" when you sign up. Part of those terms is submitting documents that are true and accurate, without trying to cheat the system. Once you agree, the responsibility shifts to you, as the casino applies the same verification process to all their clients equally.

If a gambler decides to use fake information just to gamble, that’s on them. It’s a serious offense and could have legal consequences. If the real owner of the stolen information decides to take action, it could even lead to imprisonment. There’s risk involved for both sides, which is why it’s always better to be truthful from the start. Honesty saves you from unnecessary trouble.

We are not dealing with physical casinos where gamblers can easily be identified. The online or crypto gambling sector deals with people that are from different countries who are difficult to locate. I think casinos should hire experts who will keep building mechanisms that can easily identify these cheaters. Casinos will have to keep advancing their security and ensure they identify current methods and schemes that these cheaters use to scam these casinos. Immediately their shady deals are identified, and their accounts should be investigated and restricted accordingly.

That is true, over time and as the development of the age with the technology will not be able to stop gamblers from doing gambling because everything can be obtained, even when KYC as a veryification of personal data that has been banned can use other people's data to access the same thing and It's easy at this time to do without the casino owner knowing it, it is a definite thing to be done, so it will be useless to prohibit, but at least the casino runs the procedure in confirming the account that committed violations, it is better than not at all.

Has anyone seen a lower-effort article than his one?
No information
- where this happened
- no information on how much they were paid for
- no information on who got ahold of it
- no information if they were prosecuted
Nothing, not even the name of the facebook page where this is supposed to happen, not a single tiny bit of info at all to make this story look even a bit legit!

This is how a real article, probably the original source looks like:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/nov/17/your-id-for-400-warnings-issued-after-australian-gambling-syndicates-offer-money-for-documents

Wow, little did I know that that's how it works. I actually thought that if casino "A" ban a player, the player can just move on to register on another casino "B". If that's the case, that's why those ban users try to create account with someone's details or buy account other another user. I can never allow someone use my personal details to do KYC because it's risky.

It’s the promise of huge earnings that keep them coming back for more as well.

You might be surprised by to what lengths a person can go to just for money. That is quite literally why we have criminals that exist. The only difference I guess is some of the criminals that steal money they do it because they need the money for survival while those criminals who steal identity to win some money do it just because they want to have fun. Never mind that they could easily lose as well.

Gambling is fun and they will do anything to keep chasing that high of winning all the time. Maybe these are the people who need help.

If the casino administrator found a strong evidence of the lapses thar you've made there's no hesitation they'll really going to ban or restrict you for the sake of their safety. Identify breach is rampant along casino, but there's no exception for this because eventually the get caught in the long run. So always bare in mind that it's rather to follow rules instead of account got compromise.

Well, casinos have the rights to ban any accounts that doesn't do according to their rules. Actually, a gambler need to keep their identity protected, and anyone who doesn't have a gamble account should not give out his personal documents to anyone for them to verify KYC just because of little penny. However, nowadays some scammers uses gamble platform to do money laundrying, so with all this, one need to be careful with his or her documents.

If a gambler was banned and he still registered on that same casino with another identity, he might still get caught again. So there is no need to give anyone our documents to verify their false KYC.

As long as it is related to online gambling, then I believe it is a difficult thing about restrictions. There are so many age restrictions and also other restrictions because of violations in a gambling site and other sites. But the fact is,  eventhough the site has such a ban or restriction, the fact is that many users can still access the site even though they are basically  banned users or users who get restrictions to access the site. So yes, there are so many ways for any user to be able to still enter or access the site, because online sites that have access restrictions will actually be interesting for those who are  looking for challenges.

I actually had that thought too in mind but I believe that if they use another person's details to register (which is unprincipled), they might be more conscious not to get caught again. He or she will definitely learn from their first mistake that got them banned, unless it's a foolish person.

Even though his explanation seem logical, I'm not still able to understand how a player will be linked through games played in different casino even though they are games from the same provider. Does the game providers have access to the customer database of the casinos? It is really not making sense to me because I know the casinos will not release their customer database to Pragmatic Play, for instance, simply because users play their slot games in the casino. In addition, I don't think the game providers have access to the KYC data of their players rather the casinos does. Maybe he will explain further for clarity. 

Likely possible, if some people could be hacking and cheating on a gambling platform, then there is high possibility that the restricted ones too could find a means of sneaking on the platform for gambling or claiming of rewards as the case may be, but this is mostly possible if the casino is not having a high standard security measures and developers teams to ensure that loopholes like that are being blocked, this may cost them a huge amount of money to be able to set up a standard team of security experts, but its worth losing a reasonable amount to scammers for nothing.

gamblers I have a different way to manipulate when they are restricted to participate in one particular gambling platform the thing is that if it is a gambling platform that accept kyc it is the place that you can figure out your gamblers or people who patronize you but the process whereby  or kYC documentation is not being done, people can manipulate the platform by having a different account that will enable them to gamble to have seen different people who have a different account in one particular gambling site so there is no way you can restrict them they will not have the chance of penetrating platform except that the system of that particular gambling platform trapped the ID address of the system they are using to access the website

Does this mean that game providers have access to user data stored on casino servers? There are many game providers, does this mean that they are pooled to share information about flagged users? I can't imagine how this could be the case. I can't recall ever hearing of someone being banned from one casino because they were banned from another. The idea makes no sense.

However, I wonder who would need to use a fake ID to use one casino if they could use their real ID at another casino. Enjoying the bonus isn't the good reason to buy a fake identity worth a significant amount that exceed the winning bonus (if any).

Getting hold of gamblers who cleverly bypass KYC and IP restrictions is not simple. The internet is filled with services that could cause or break the terms of most platforms including casino. Web users are there to assist and provide all documents required to sign up into a casino that may have banned a specific player. It'll only cost the banned player money.

However, building a sophisticated team to tackle such loopholes can be helpful to the gaming platforms for a while until users or visitors find a method to boycott the regulation.

Perhaps that is why there is such a big underground market for people to sell and buy accounts of online casinos and sport books, I guess. There are gamblers who have been banned for whatever reason and they seek to continue to have access to the biggest and more liquid casinos within this industry, account dealers know that and since there is a demand for those accounts, the offer will eventually appear in form of supply.
I have read cases in which people are willing to go through KYC verification in order to sell such account in those underground markets, it only shows how desperate some people are for money and how big the demand for accounts is.
Even if casinos went for biometric verification, projects like Worldcoins have already showed to us people are willing to sell their biometric identity very cheaply.

Simply deleting the account is the least that sites can do. In Brazil, betting sites will probably still report this to the authorities, as it is a crime....

In Brazil, the Penal Code states that anyone who commits the crime of false identity does so to obtain an illicit advantage for their own benefit or that of another person, generally to cause harm to another person or establishment. The penalty for this is moderate and varies from three months to one year, or a fine if the act does not constitute an element of a more serious crime.

From what I can see, most players who use false identities do so to get around existing blocks due to their age or the country in which they live.

The casino can only rely on their available tools on how they can trace their cheaters. Cheaters will always find a way, especially if they see flaws in the casino that banned them, which is why in the scam section we see casino representatives posting proofs or testimony that cheaters keep coming back because they see a flaw in the system. its important that casinos do not show how their system works to avoid cheaters studying and finding a flaw in their system.

No matter how good the system implemented in a casino, there are still loopholes that can be exploited by people who are capable of committing fraud. I don't know if casinos share how their systems work or not, but most of the time I don't find that they do. Casinos will definitely cover up information about how the system works, only that people who have the ability can easily commit fraud on their site. The security system that is made is sometimes quite good and they even strengthen the security system in a more sophisticated way, but there are also times when they can be fooled by people who have the best abilities with technology.

We don't need to look that far; there are constantly newbies signing up here asking to purchase casino accounts; there's certainly a market for that. My question now is, are compromised accounts being sold, or do the original account owners willingly put these accounts on sale themselves? Why would you sell an account that has sensitive personal data and could possibly put you in trouble if the other person is malicious, and that's often what gets these accounts banned in the first place?

I've also seen friends share accounts or use each other's personal details, something that can also easily derail if someone ends up getting banned or face consequences if it's a centralized local casino, such as possible taxation.

It's more like a general technological pitfall which cannot be blamed on technology either when it happens that a person can use someone's identity and wouldn't be noticed that they are just identity thieves. The best casinos can always do is the restrictions they place on an account that has violated their terms or is having some irregularities, secondly could be them restricting the IP address which the gambler can probably change device or us vpn and that is something the casino cannot control so the best the casino can and will always do is the restrictions they do tey to place.

Honestly I don't understand what you are saying, it is too convoluted but without any points or solutions in it, I hope you can simplify your idea to the core point according to your point of view, my friend. Here we are discussing about the government that is not careful in maintaining the identity of its people so that there is a leak and which is misused by several irresponsible parties which ultimately harms some of its people who become victims, and there is nothing we can do as a society other than asking the government to be more careful and thorough in maintaining the personal data of each of its people.
On the other hand, I personally am always careful when I find anything that requires me to include personal documents, even though I like to gamble but at least I will first make sure whether the casino I visit has a good reputation or otherwise because if you choose one of the sites that has a bad reputation or even bad then of course it is likely that your personal data will be misused, and of course this method can reduce various unwanted possibilities such as data misuse which will ultimately face you in various problems.

There's a reason why casinos(and other online platforms) ask for a selfie of the user holding it's ID card. Imagine borrowing an ID card from another guy and sending a selfie with you holding this guy's ID card to the casino. Sounds ridiculous, right.
There are way more complex methods of bypassing ID verification. Some of those methods can be found on forums like Cracked and Nulled.
I wonder who would give his ID card to a random person for free. Perhaps only homeless people and addicts would do such thing.

I don't know and feel like there is not much they can do about it, but as far as I know, casinos have their own system on recognizing patterns/activities of peple they have already banned, especialyl if they are a group of people just like the ones that was mentioned on the article. casinos collaborating with other casinos makes recognizing patterns/activities a lot easier to do.

I was thinking that maybe they can find out depending on the pattern of gambling that the player uses, but yet it will be difficult to guess that right. They could also use IP address, but that's if the person uses the same device or maybe they have a special tools to do that. Maybe @Coin_trader can explain more.

Yeah right, there’s a lot of way to bypass casino restrictions. A cheater can simply just purchase new phone and sim card to play while KYC using friends or other family member ID that doesn’t have any idea about online casino.

Luckily, can observe players betting habits and pattern since they are doing the same strategy that will give them advantage against the casino. Usually they have method to cheat which is why they are caught and associated to an account that previously do the same strategy that result to ban.

Cheaters would need to be smart enough to find someone willing to lend their account who isn’t active in gambling. Otherwise, if the person is, they might sell the account to multiple gamblers, and that’s where things get messy, imagine different people using the same identity. Total chaos. Honestly, I hadn’t thought about that kind of risk, lol. But now it’s clear how risky it is to gamble without using your real identity. If the account gets banned, it’s game over, and worse, your funds are frozen. That’s a real gut punch, especially if you’ve got a significant balance stuck in there.

You are right because they can suspicious with anything that coming to their site and will prevents the bad things happen. They can recognize patterns or activities from all of their members because they can check it on their connection and history on their site. Maybe there are many ways that they can use to detect the abuse gamblers and will do something to them. The casino will not allow people who wants to break their rules by playing gambling on their site so they will make sure everything is under control.

Gamblers can do it, but after a while he plays, the casino will find out and will suspend the account. I think I've read about such a problem in one of the casinos on this forum. Gamblers consciously admit their mistakes by borrowing the identity of friends or other people to register a new account to avoid the restrictions that occur on their main account.
Casinos can detect it, it can be from IP, deposit address, or betting habits made. Don't think that the methods that problem gamblers have will be easy to trick the casino.

There's will be a single point of failure, most of cheaters can't survive for long.

Either they forgot to turn on VPN while accessing the casino, they use the same address which they used for their old accounts, they can't fulfill the level 3 KYC etc.

Anything is possible in internet, we could act like different person and no one might notice it. The only way to validate the person is met him in real life, but we know it's impossible in the first place.

Exploiting a casino system is not as simple as many people think, the IT team always enhances security as well as ensures the system operates with the least errors, the amount of money that the casino pays for this department comes with great responsibility and will always be the most talented brains in the field of network security. Once someone has shown signs of fraud, tracing and even personal information is possible, as long as these factors are present, it is likely that access from that address will be permanently banned regardless of changes and the use of a VPN.

Not sure why would anyone will pass their KYC documents to others just for some amount of money.
Passing our personal details can lead us to big trouble if it goes to wrong hands.
Although these gamblers are using other people's identities for gambling, it's morally a wrong thing to do.
There's no way the casino sites can tackle this situation.

I don't think it's a tedious process for them, for as long as you have money on the account...they will hit you where it hurts and that's your pocket!!
Besides they have bots that do the cleanup do it's all easy work at the end of the day.


There is a saying that says " the house always wins" and this will never change....so no matter how elusive gamblers might think to be, the house will have the last laugh and not worth it really...it's a waste of time and money and gamblers should find cleaner ways to gamble .

so. how can we become the house?
do you always need lots of money to be the house?
seems like these are some of the questions we should be asking instead of "in which team should I bet next?" or "how much to deposit now after I lost all my money again?"

Not sure if I woudl say this, but If you have spent time gambling in casinos, you probably already know who “the house” is. But just to clarify ^{(and assuming you’re not being sarcastic)}, the house refers to the casino. They have the house edge which means the odds are stacked in their favor mathematically over the long run. That’s why most gamblers lose in the end.

It doesn’t matter how much you deposit, you can’t just go all in chasing your losses because the house has limits on how much you can bet. It’s a system designed to keep them on top, no matter what.

If we want to become a dealer then we will facilitate the gambling process and to become a dealer also requires costs that may be adjusted to our clients, it is not easy to build a gambling site if we do not have the ability to develop the business because it is not only about money but many other things also need to be considered. As most people say that being a dealer is much more profitable than being an ordinary gambler, but the dealer also has the risk of losing at certain times even though he has set the system.

Indeed, most dealers are much more profitable than gamblers because no gambler can make more money than the dealer himself on his journey.

In Russia, people who borrow documents for KYC by other people are called "drops". For many people, this can be a short-term income, especially if they do not want to gamble themselves. This is a very common situation. Moreover, people borrow documents not only to pass KYC in gambling, but also, for example, to cash out cryptocurrencies. In general, I can say that casinos can fight IP address substitution, because they have a so–called "anti-fraud system" that collects complex information about the device, not just the IP address.
However, there will still be attempts to circumvent these restrictions, and each time they will be more sophisticated.
Over time, this will lead to the fact that either all bookmakers will become decentralized, or most players will leave for decentralized prediction platforms.

There's no way someone is 100% consistent with being careful; eventually they'll forget something, as simple as a VPN. However, is that really an issue? People have found multiple ways to get around the system, and if they've done it once, chances are that they can do it again. In the worst-case scenario, they'll have one more banned account, and they will move to the next one shortly after. I don't believe this is a detering factor to account for. There are always workarounds, even for KYC requirements, something which isn't directly validated when signing up on a cryptocurrency casino.

These kinds of actions are clearly a law offense.
Its not anymore just not following some private terms but its literally a fraud. Of course this must be avoided. I know there are people that can fall for these actions due economic problems but shortcuts are never an answer.

As you can imagine, those who accept the money are not exactly multimillionaires. They are usually marginalised, homeless people who will do anything to get a bit of money, and if they are addicted to drugs, they don't even think about it when they are offered money that could mean weeks or months of supply.

Yeah, I agree with that. In my opinion, it's impossible to hide basic information when using the internet. One mistake will get us caught. VPN using is not an automated thing plus there will be instances where someone might use our computer, laptop, or smartphone and that's when a mistake could happen.
I've used VPN for a long time for different purposes and I can say it sometimes sucks when you are using it because of the language issues and it will put you in different directions when using the internet because they see you in a different country.
Then, there will be problem for government agencies access because you are not in using the country's IP. I had my share of problems while using it and I think it should only be used for accessing restricted places. Not a 24/7 kind of thing.

True, as you said and I agree with that, most likely those who are willing to give their identity to others in exchange for money are people who are having problems in their financial situation, anything can be done by people who are cornered by financial problems, for them the various possible problems that can arise from such actions are another thing because the most important thing in such a situation is that they can still eat. On the other hand, the goal is good to survive without doing something that is not commendable such as stealing or other criminal acts, but of course selling or renting personal identity is also high risk.

By the way, this is prohibited by the rules and if this is detected, the account will simply be blocked. And if we talk about selling an account, then most likely such an account should have a KУC, and I don’t know who could agree to sell an account with their data. I suspect that there are such people, but they simply do not understand all the responsibility that can follow. But perhaps if they are not interested in continuing to play in the future, then they will not care.

True my friend, you make a good point about the OP context here being missed by some replies, just like most of the topics here where it looks hard for many members to read the whole topic.
It’s also true that the article focuses on an organized group bypassing bans rather than being about addiction specifically. These groups often consist of professional gamblers or sharp bettors who have been restricted for consistently winning. But still the issue of bypassing bans overlaps with the identity misuse which affects everyone not just addicts.
When I was gambling, I didn’t realize how easily someone could misuse such data. Now that I have stepped away, I see how important it is to safe your identity, especially with how cunning some people can be in finding loopholes.

For casinos banning someone because he is too good is tricky for both parts, but I think stronger verification methods like biometric scans or tying accounts to unique personal identifiers could help. At the same time I feel there should be more support for addicts rather than just outright bans.

They’re fully aware, but this is the route they take to keep gambling. It’s illegal, but either they don’t understand the risks or they’re simply not afraid because they haven’t been caught yet. It’s essentially stealing someone’s identity to use for gambling. However, if they buy the identity, it’s a gray area legally, though it still carries significant risks.

The biggest issue arises when casinos update their KYC requirements. If that happens, the account may no longer pass verification. Regulations aren’t fixed, they change over time, likely because casinos are catching on to schemes like this. It’s a risky game, and eventually, it might catch up with them.

in my social media group, I met someone who was selling a casino account, one of the biggest on this forum. surely an account that has KYC and a decent monthly bonus makes a casino account valuable.
The casino clearly prohibits this, if detected by the casino the account will definitely be banned. especially with Casio which initially did not require KYC, after their regulations required KYC, maybe some people have several casino accounts that are operated by themselves.

Although the casino can detected that, those gamblers will not stop for trying to do the same thing. Maybe they will try in the other casinos that they don't use before so they think that they will have the chance to pass the blocked.
But the casino smarter than we think because casino have a team that can check and identify those abuse that happen in their place. If they found their members sell their account to other people, they will not tolerate it and will ban the connection from that people.
It is never ending story between the casino and the gamblers so it will still continue. We don't have to be like them and it is better we use gambling for fun only.

You nailed it! Or maybe they stick to the same casino but use a different identity, device, and IP address. These gamblers are clever, they always have a backup plan in case something goes wrong. And these gamblers won't stop as long as there are people that are willing to supply them with the documents they need, because its just like a supply and demand thing.  :)

However, in terms of risk, its not on the casino because as long as the gamblers are losing, they're welcome all the time.

You mentioned that you met someone who was selling an account at a casino whose account was in the VIP category on the gambling platform. Is that right? Did he tell you himself that he was selling his account? If that gambler is getting benefits from his account at a casino, it means that the benefits he is getting from the gambling casino itself are good.

How much do you think he is selling that account for? And what benefits will the buyer who buys that account get? Is it the VIP?

If this is harmless and poses no risk to the casino, then why do casinos always find ways or if they find out players are circumventing the rules, continue to ban them?

I think it depends, as if it is a registered casino and is strictly regulated by law enforcement. They need to be strict about this, they can't just go after small profits and may pay a heavy price if law enforcement finds out they are being lax in managing their users. Casinos also have risks and that is why they are very strict about this although it cannot be completely prevented as players will have many ways to cheat, IMO.

Some gamblers do it without the casino finding out, it is only few people that do not use their head when they have already been caught before that they catch again. After buying casino account and they use it under covered without revealing that they are not the owners of the information that was used to complete the kyc, It is when they want to withdraw that they make a mistake by trying to withdraw a large amount instead of withdrawing in smaller values that will not raise attention to their transactions. Nobody is going to ask you to verify your identity when you withdraw $500 to $1000 but when you withdraw amount like $5000 and above, it can get to the attention of the casino or when you withdraw multiple times in a row or in a day.

It would be a huge mistake if the casino ignored this, but I’m sure they’re well aware of the risks. That’s why they enforce strict KYC checks before allowing withdrawals—not just because it’s legally required but also to protect their reputation, as it prevents the platform from being misused for illegal transactions.

While they can’t catch everyone, this approach definitely reduces the chances of shady activity. So, for those gamblers who don’t like the KYC process, well, they’re probably the ones most likely to try to cheat the system! Because I see the huge benefits we can get from doing this, not just for the casino but also for us players. 

As good as the online technology is, what you narrated is a disadvantage, no one actually knows the true person behind the screen, it is what they claim they are that the casino will agree to especially when they also have documents to back that up whether it's a fake or not.

I know that the behavioural pattern of a casino will go a long way in detecting them but this is limited to what the account is needed for. If it is an underage who uses a fake profile, the casino will detect nothing since it is a regular account. And if it is to cheat in collecting more bonuses, the casino will still detect nothing if the money in the former account has been lost and he is using the new account. They will find no link but see a regular player.

In my opinion, in such situations, the main source of problems are KYC procedures. It is the mandatory nature of these procedures that leads to individual players resorting to the services of drops (i.e. buying other people's documents).

Moreover, drops are used both in the crypto industry and in gambling. I condemn this practice, since it itself leads to big problems. One evil gives birth to another evil.

Therefore, in my opinion, you should try to avoid situations where you are required to undergo KYC procedures. You should also not use the services of drops.

You also need to protect your own documents and other personal data from theft by intruders.

Gamblers always find a way, but for how long until the casino finally discovering it and refusing to pay the gambler for his winnings? It's not a smart move to be a cheater. If a gambler was restricted for some reason, he should just accept it and move along to a new casino where is welcome. This way he will prevent a lot of headaches, since he will be playing by the terms of the platform. Therefore, they will have no excuses to deny a withdrawal, for an example.

We have already read many stories from gamblers who complained about an unfair ban or withdrawal denial, but in the end, it was discovered they were breaking the rules through the usage of VPN, multi accounts or fake IDs. It definitely doesn't worth to act like that.

Some people kill for money, it is definitely the root of all evil one says. I think killing for money would tear one’s soul apart. But you’re right the motives behind the criminal truly pain the pictures of one’s true intentions. These are con artists and they are usually highly versatile and it doesn’t surprise me that they really stop to no end and have thrown all morals out the window.

I really don't think casinos have a ton of options for banning users. Eventually all the scammers end up screwing up and getting caught multi accounting and get their money confiscated.

Personally, most bonuses that users get are associated with your wagering, so I really don't find multi accounting to be that big a deal as noone is really taking advantage of much since they are wagering to get the bonuses. I would like to see casinos lose the 1 account per household rule.

It sounds immoral and in fact it happens everywhere because of the cases that have been revealed and money is always a medium that attracts people to do something negative or positive. Something evil is based on opportunity and maybe most of the motives for fraud occur because they have the opportunity to do it. As long as a person's morals are not formed, then never tell the truth because almost most of the fraud that occurs generally they never think about morality and victims. Back to the casino and I think there are not many ways for the casino to limit the ban on users because basically they are in business to make a profit.

Yes, those gamblers are clever to abuse the system although the casino can find them easily. We don't know which way they will use to have a new account on the casino.
And about the document, they can get the documents from people who they meet so they can use the document to register and verify in the casinos. But the casinos will not let that happens as they can check the document and will investigates the account if they think that is too suspicious for them.
The risk maybe for the gamblers because if casino found them and block them, they will lose the access to their account. But they can make another account using the other document and still playing gambling.

Even if the casino catch those gamblers, that will not stop them for doing the same thing again because they still want to get what they search for. Buying the casino account can be their ways but they should know that the casino can find them and ban them easily.
Completing the KYC will not be easy for them as the casino can know the pattern that they use before so the casino will doing prevention for those gamblers. Some of them can withdraw the money but the casino will trying to figure out if their account is a real account.
It will continue between the gamblers and the casino but the casino can prevents the same thing so they can run their business. But the gamblers will not stop what they did before as they can do that over and over.

Well with money a person's attitude and behavior can change, money changes everything but not for people who are able to maintain their common sense, I agree with you that something evil happens because of opportunity and not always about intention, on the other hand your words make a little sense that basically casinos will not be able to completely limit gamblers because after all only gamblers can make casinos continue to make a profit, so maybe the restrictions will not be maximized too much, like the discussion at the beginning that everything is possible for money or profit, that also applies to casinos.

Too many ways the casino losses money to the hands of con players who try to maximize profits through multiple accounts. And a ban on all gamblers in this category might affect genuine players who obey the rules. So, the restricted gamblers always have a plan B of gambling under the cover of other people's ID and accounts. Which the casino may not detect easily.

If they only sell to the same nationally citizen, I think it will be hard for the casino to spot the account was changed hands.

The casino can detect difference of IP address and the account was never connect to the old IP address, but the new owner can give excuse like they've moved to new country. Any VIP account already have submitted KYC, even though the casino can request again in the future.

That's when they get caught when the platform asks KYC again especially if the expiration date of the passport expires. Its what Binance did to accounts they think are doing something suspicious.

But users who got away from buying accounts of submitting documents that aren't theirs are proud to have gotten away from it. People use refuse to submit KYC all the time, not sure why this time around it becomes normal already. 

Actually it's a problem too here in my country, people think it's normal their personal information just for a few money and didn't know the consequences they might get after selling it to scammers.

Using someone else's identity is risky and unethical, not just for the gambler but also for the person lending their info, as it can lead to serious more trouble in the future. IP bans and account restrictions only go so far since VPNs and alternate devices are easy to use nowadays.

Gambler's will not also stop if they will always find a way to make money if there's a flaw in the system.

For whatever reasons that is, what sort of human would give out their identity to a stranger?? I understand they could sometimes be tricked into getting tipped or payed for it but WTF? I guess it makes a whole lot of sense right now when we have people evading the KYC protocols in everything they getting registered on.

The repercussions of this illegality is definitely gonna be on the dumbass donor at the end... I'm just wondering how surprised they'll be looking like when the cop steps up at their doorstep with two identities -- one with which to ascertain who they are, and another to confirm the crime on which they're gonna be apprehended for... Jesus Christ!!!
I'm afraid this is not happening anytime soon. They'll probably get the rules tighter than this... That being said, for the first line of your statement, have you thought about collusion? The day this rule is put aside is the day casinos would all run bankrupt, yahoo.

I thought that the documents that you mentioned are borrowed from the owner where the owner does know or have knowledge about the documents being used. After reading more, I finally get the point where the documents are being stolen by a group of people which then they use it for KYC in a casino since they are restricted in the casino that they are gambling. If I am wrong then my que is, why wouldn't they share their documents for KYC?. There's a chance that they may use for something illegal.

It's only a matter of time until that group gets busted. With all of the processes that they are trying to defy the laws and if they can borrow others identity for a fee. When someone has done wrong and he's using other's people identity on that circle, they are going to be worried for sure on how it will be. If these casinos try to get into some union and try to get their records have a database as a whole just like the banks has, then for sure these people will have a huge problem if they keep on doing that. But as of now, they don't do that and I do not see them doing that then in the nearer future.

I see it that even though things in the gambling section or forum changes and evolves, there'll be more and applicable methods for every gambling individual to acknowledge revenues for the initial period of time.Restricted gamblers are often the addicted one and they're normally not afraid to try out any new speculations and updates.

Sometimes they don't just buy the documents from those who steal them to sell; some times they meet the real owners of the document to sell it to them, and they will state the main purpose of why they are using it.

One good reason that some people can do this is either they might have cheated one casino before, which made the casino ban them from playing on their platform, or they are not eligible to play due to the age limit, or the country or residence is not permitted to play in that casino. Whichever is the case, such an action will always have a repercussion, and the owner of the document for anything serious being done with it will be held responsible.

It lies now on the casino how good they are to detect the authenticity of the submitted kyc docs. Because one way not to escape from the ban is really thru submission of kyc docs, especially if the casino is a licensed one. We don't know what kind of technology they are using to determine the acceptability of your docs. But in case you will use somebody else's credentials, you are putting yourself at risk as the site can ask further details of your credentials. This is what you need to prepare in case you will use fake credentials, and if you have significant amount deposited, then the likelihood to freeze or suspend your account is quite high.

It's always the documents owner who will be held responsible since it's his/her own documents and the other party is only using it so there's nothing that the owner can do about being blame or forced to be responsible of something. That's one of the reason why people should always keep their privacy secured seriously. Well, casinos may find another way to determine if it's really you that is using the account although I am not sure on how they will do that.

In addition to what you have said. Recently we came to see that many banned or restricted gamblers bought already made level up accounts in a casino and we have seen many selling in the forum. Recently I saw one casino account seller in the service board. And because of this thread I went to look for the thread so can make some reference from it but it seen that the thread was deleted. And those accounts they are selling normal gambler will not buy them but those gamblers that have been banned and they want to go back to the casino site to continue their malicious behaviors.

Unless the casino requests further information about the gambler in the future, if not the type of information they ask for for verification, it is what anyone who wants to bypass them can easily buy from anyone unless there is a part of verification where they will ask for facial verification, which can't be manipulated (but I don't know how enhanced AIs are now); if not, that's the only form of verification.
 
I know that most platforms are used to catch identity theft, but if such occurs and the gambler got the ID document from someone close, they can always ask them to help verify that; it depends on the situation, but even so, it's still a very risky process, as the gambler can end up losing everything if they are caught.

They can’t claim they’re unaware of the risks as "ignorance of the law excuses no one". You simply can’t hand over your documents to someone under your account if you’re not the one using it, no matter how tempting the reward might seem. That’s a hard pass for anyone who values their safety and accountability.

Hopefully, desperation for quick cash doesn’t cloud their judgment. The benefits might look good at first, but the risks are far too great to ignore. It’s always better to stay cautious especially that gambling platforms are also reported to be use for money laundering. It's hard to be implicated in illegal activities you don't do.

If it's only a basic information then actually it is only easy to hide it but since they are only basic a lot of people won't bother too much about them. There are still platforms that can only care less or has less security, so one mistake might still not enough for us to get caught out but we need to be careful next time if we are only doing this because of privacy concerns and not because we are a criminal that is planning to do a crime. Indeed that basically VPN's are manual but if we have a talent on coding it might be possible for us to automate it. If we don't have a talent but we have a budget we can as well hire some coders to do it for us.

As for those unattended devices and then someone uses them there are still passwords that can protect our devices and not all who use our devices has a good technical knowledge to mess up with our thing. Difference in language is only normal in VPN. It happens because we are like changing our locations in order to bypass a restriction or simply hide ourselves from someone or something.

Besides, there is still a translation that we can use if we don't understand the language that is written in our screens. Some VPN's allows us to choose a country and we can actually select our country and still gain access to local sites like government agencies as you said there for example if our goal is only to change our current IP addresses. Some VPN's can also be used to have a free internet access, so it is actually possible to use them 24/7.

I know who the house is and that the house always wins and all
what I'm asking is how we normal everyday folks can open an online casino and become the house ourselves
is it possible?
how much upfront capital would we need?
do we need to get VCs and formal investment?
do you think there's still space for growth in this market?

Casinos will certainly not limit gamblers from getting involved in it because it is not in line with the business development they are trying to do on the platform. A person can only stop gambling when there is an intention to stop, the rest is no more reasonable way. Casinos also never force us to get involved in gambling and instead we ourselves come and try to bet on their site. If people think about money completely when involved in gambling then they will be very difficult to stop and generally addicted gamblers think they can make money consistently in betting but what happens is the opposite.

it's a free world
in a free world you should have the possibility to spend all your money, get addicted to things and ruin your family
now, is it the free world we want?
I'm not so sure

but money is a really strong force after all

This is why it's important for gamblers to use KYC on their accounts to secure them properly. Cyber scammers and account sellers are constantly looking for vulnerable accounts to hack and exploit for their own profit.

Just like someone said in this trade, whenever any illegal activity is detected on your account, you will be the one in trouble, not them. Therefore, we need to be extremely cautious when sharing our personal information with others, wherever we go, and how we handle our wallets.

Most importantly, when we are gambling, we should not get carried away by the excitement that comes with it, to the point where we are not mindful of how we handle our personal documents. This could allow someone else to access your IDs   and use them for illegal activities.

Because, indeed, banned gamblers will always look for ways to circumvent the system. That's just it. So, you need to take proactive measures from your end to protect your account and avoid being vulnerable to these account sellers and scammers.

You know what, many people and not only gamblers do not like KYC because they are afraid that the company will reveal their documents/information to third party for attack. And it is possible. And they believed in personal privacy. And that is why they used decentralized system of interaction and transaction. Since those casinos are centralized which has license with the government, and if the government find out that the gambler has an account with casino, then they can force the company to reveal the identity of the person. In everything there is an advantage and disadvantage. KYC is good and KYC in the the crypto market is bad. Mostly I don't like KYC in exchange but it is the easiest way to sell.

There's always those pros and cons when it comes to KYC but com in mind on why crypto gambling had become that popular just because of having that anonymity feature on which we have been that preferring into this one, until the time that these platforms or companies are starting up to ask verifications before you could be able to make withdrawal which kinda sucks. One of the main things that comes up into our minds on the moment that KYC is really that being asked is having into those possible leaked informations on which this is really something that we do mainly not that liking, thats why as much as possible we would really be trying out to deal up into things on which we know that we do really that able to prefer and trying out avoid on which we dont really like after all.

Illiteracy and ignorance are big diseases that can make someone do this because they are not aware of the consequences. All that matters to them is what they see in front of them.

The gambler or the person making use of the document might not explain in detail the truth of what might happen if it's being used for illegal activities. I know of a story not related to this one, but the person was penalised for what he knew nothing about, but illetracy allowed him to be accused wrongly, and he admitted to what he didn't know.

Don't let the free world destroy our lives and even though money is a very powerful force that can influence people, we must have control so that unwanted things don't happen. Addiction can cause problems for anyone, especially if we are unable to control ourselves to spend money on gambling, while other people have much better control and they will try to spend money according to their ability. If we realize that Casinos do not limit someone from getting involved in gambling, then we ourselves should be able to control it, otherwise we will be faced with problems in managing the financial management that will be spent on gambling.

When someone are in need in money, they will not care about how if they breaks the law and will still try to get the chance. They already desperate with the situation that they have so they will not think twice to let that chance go away.

All things can be done by gamblers who want to keep playing gambling in that casino including search for other people document and verify using that way. They can ask that people to use the account and verify it so that gambler can use it to play gambling.

Sh*ts happen all around now and what you think is legit may not be legit but the casinos will not know, this is one of the issues with the internet, you cannot ascertain the person behind the screen but assume them for what they claim they are. As for the casinos, they are exonerated by law because they are not privy to that act which is the main reason why they offer the KYC, it is not for them to actually inconvenience anyone but to obey the law of their jurisdiction. And this is why I'm not too fond of the idea of people buying verified accounts online, who knows the evil they've perpetrated to open the account and get it verified?

It seems to me that in physical casinos it is absolutely impossible to get into the casino using someone else's documents, because the people at the entrance are not fools and they understand perfectly well who is in the photo and who is in front of them.
As for online casinos, I want to say that everything is not so simple. Casinos have learned to figure out perfectly what country a person using a VPN is actually from. I don't know how it works, but they really do have such a tool, and I have seen it several times. Therefore, if a casino does not want to let someone onto its site, they will ban the VPN, and the player will not be able to do anything.

Though before most people sell of their documents to outsiders who are using to pass kyc to the gambling site would always tell them to using same location while using their site. What I mean is that, if someone purchase kyc documents from someone in US and he passed the kyc from the gambling site, when login he would always tell the person to use same location instead of logging-in from their country location and he would also enable VPN to suit the previous of accessing the site.

but some smaller cassinos are also flagging accounts who perform well, right?
I mean, probably not so common but also happening
that's why it is better to focus on the main casinos

most of them will have KYC nowadays
but we have to remember that KYC is not a magical solution since people can just buy accounts and stuff.

Before a casino website can restrict you not to participate or associate yourself to their platform that might be a a commitment from you because I know quite well that a good casino gambling platform cannot suspend you or banned you no to deposit or gamble with them without a cogent reasons some persons do not follow the rules and the regulations of Casino gambling and that is one of the major reasons why they are restricted secondly that is on something countries that is not allowed or permitted to register in some gambling platforms but the thing is that many people use a VPN to buy caught the platform in other order to make a register that will lead them to involve in such gambling platform, if notice by the team of the gambling platform they will restrict them.

since its a company with their own rules and you are playing there they can restrict your access for anything they want and allegate that this is for the system security or some bananas
that's why it is usually better to opt for known casinos and betting websites

better safe than sorry

The OP wrote the right things, which I fully support and do not recommend anyone to play with someone who is prohibited from doing this from other accounts, or to try to lure an IP address. Because at one point, when we are lucky enough to win, it may happen that we will never be allowed to withdraw the money because of this, so it is better not to play with fire from the start. I play only where I am allowed and even if verification is required, I will do it myself, without anyone's help, so as not to have problems in the future. Although you can never be 100% sure that there will be no problems.

You can’t blame gamblers for finding ways to gamble, but if it were me, I’d stick to violations with fewer consequences rather than doing something as serious as using someone else’s documents for KYC, that’s straight-up illegal. Using a VPN to bypass IP restrictions seems like a less risky option. Worst case? Your account gets locked, and you lose your funds, but you can create a new one if you’re okay with the risk.

On the other hand, falsifying documents is a whole different story. That can land you in serious legal trouble, even jail time, and it’s definitely not worth it.

Do Casinos really want to ban gamblers from their casinos and do we think they will make such efforts to limit the number of people involved in it. KYC is only intended to verify authenticity but they never care about using real identities or not for gamblers who are involved in it because all they want is for KYC to run as expected.

I never thought casinos would try to restrict gamblers because in essence they see an opportunity to influence many people to get involved in it and this is a business where the more people involved in it the bigger the site will be, there is always no perfection in the system because there are loopholes that can be exploited by users.

The casino can restrict you from their place easily but you may not realize what is your mistake. That is what happen to many gamblers so that makes them complain to the casino and even they use this forum to get attention from the casino. Gamblers don't know if that is their own mistake so the casino restricted them from gambling in their casino. If we don't make any mistake, we will be okay and could playing gambling without any problems. But if gamblers doing something that break the casino rules, the casino will restricted you and even will ban you easily so you will not have a chance to play gambling on that casino. Even if you use other people identity to verify your account, casino can know and will ban you again.

What if the casino asks for other documents such as bills or source of funds then this will be even more complicated not about the location it accesses but the casino will easily detect people using a VPN.
So don't do it like this because no matter what in the future it will definitely be found out, don't force it if you can't afford it.

They always find a way how? There is only one way and thats through stolen identity or borrowed ID, mind you, not all borrowed identities are meant for illegal activities, some gamblers just don't see any way to pass verifications, either been too young or other.

Either ways I am not in support of any illegal activities through gambling, there is nothing wrong in using your own ID to pass verifications, unless you have some evil plan in mind, if you can't pass KYC because you hate it then don't gamble on a KYC compliance casino.

I don't see any ways that gamblers can go about it, if you are restricted it is over, use VPN they can still detect you, many gamblers don't even know that every devices have a specific ID numbers, this is just one of few ways to know that it is you again, trying to bypass.

Yes, I understand that the only reasonable way for gamblers, in whose country casinos are banned, is to find documents for KYC and VPN corresponding to this country. And now I think that thanks to AI everything is much easier. Have you seen a program for creating KYC documents? Please google it and you will be surprised how variable and powerful such a program is.
And in recent weeks I hear here and there that crypto exchanges are massively banned for this, I think this happens in casinos all the time, but we do not hear about it, the thing is they do not write about it so often in their blogs. But now it is a real problem for them.

Maybe you can't use the other user documents, but you could use someone else bank account. In my country when you go to the casino they ask for a bank card, if you make a profit the money goes to that bank account, so, you could get a bank card from another person and use that to gamble, And it's similar to the online casinos, if you win big then they could ask for more documents but if you win small amounts there will not be any problem.

That is not really reasonable, if a gambler finds that most casinos ban their location as eligible to play there or gambling is illegal on the country in which they live, the best thing to do is simply to not gamble, this is because it is simply not worth it to get into all kind of trouble over something that should be a simple hobby, besides I do not see the point, as even if you happened to win passing KYC policies while playing from a VPN and using forged documents means that most likely your account will be flagged as suspicious and you will need overcome more stringent standards.

I agree
following the rules is important
you don't want to disobey or something
like these people who gamble on kyc casinos, win and end up unable to withdraw, complaining here in the forum afterwards

why they were gambling on a kyc casino if they didn't intend to withdraw from the beggining?
you know what I mean?

Casinos with professionals should be able to know that the bank card you are coming to gamble with isn't yours if actually they really paying any attention..
I mean, bank cards usually have the holders name imprinted on it, and such names usually match the document the holder used to open the account in the bank when it was opened.
So, professionals who are good at their job should know that when they ask for your bank card, they should also ask for your document, which as well must have your picture on it..

First is that - the name on the bank card must match the name on the document provided.
Second is that - the picture or image on the document provided must match the image of the person standing right in their front, if there is any form of descrepancies in any of this, it simply means that the gambler is not qualified to gamble but only forcing his way in.

And on the other hand, if there be difference in this documents but the staffs of the casino can't take notice of it, it simply means that they don't know how to do their job well.

With such rules, maybe the casino still hasn't gotten any restricted or banned gamblers. Because I am sure, when the casino has gotten restricted and banned gamblers, then the casino will apply stricter rules. Although they ask or require visitors to provide bank accounts, but if the rules are stricter then they will also still ask for other identification to match or ensure that the names listed on the identity and bank accounts are the  same which of course their faces will also be displayed on the identity card. Because it seems, to apply such rules is easier to implement in offline casinos, while for online casinos of course there are many ways for gamblers to stay in despite the restrictions.

It is not that the casino doesn't want those people on the countries that they restrict but it's just that it is only ordered by them by their license provider or the government. That is what I heard before but that must be true because if they won't obey it, they will also be in trouble and as a casino, they would also want more customers to play on them (if ever), as that means more income for them as well.

There are still casinos that allow a VPN despite having a country restriction. I know and use some of them before though, that is why I know. There are reasons on why they do this and I think this backfires them but luckily those casinos I know are still there, operating smoothly. Maybe they still have measures to detect players that are not genuinely residing on that country where they use a VPN.

Borrowing a document and using it just to fulfil the KYC requirement and making use of the platform is really an unnecessary thing. Surely this is going to create a problem in the long run. Using the KYC of a person from a particular person of a specific country and reaching the platform through a VPN stating the reach from the particular nation will make it perfect. However, when we face some issues, we can't manage and give proper responses to the questions raised by the support team to solve issues.

That is totally right.

That will create ruckus to the one who is gambling with that account. A gambler that have borrowed identity just to get KYCed will surely run into problems.

We will never know when but if the time comes and that person who they borrowed document for verification isn't around and the casino asks for an additional doc, what could they do with that and if there is some hefty funds that are in there?

but now... do you really think so?
I mean, how often they will check KYCed accounts?
all the time or only after big wins?
and even if they check, why can't the person just borrow it again and pay, to solve the problems they may have had...
I'm not sure...

Even though we talk like this, the fact is that there are still a lot of people who try to do that and even things like this can happen around us for various reasons that ultimately only center on personal gain in the end.

I'm not going to say that this is justified because for me it only makes things more complicated for myself but for some people who do this they must also have their own views so they try to register and KYC with someone else's identity in order to benefit themselves.
My friend is like this where he did KYC with someone else's data because he thought that he really didn't want to be registered on a gambling site but still wanted to gamble on it. I can't prohibit it because in the end there is already a decision between one and the other so everything that is done in the end depends on the point of view and there will definitely be pros and cons about this.

I think usually they check on us whenever we're about to withdraw such huge amounts.

You'll never know if that person is still there when he's needed.

There's a difference about a guy wanting to gamble using others identity and someone who wants to do it on his own with his own identity.

The first person would easily go away with whatever he's got because he's got no obligation as it's not his identity. Whilst the latter, there's a sense of responsibility because of using his own identity.

Borrowing a document from other people to fulfil the KYC requirement is not a good option but some people still use that to get the bonus from casino. They don't think much about the risk that they can get when casino know what they do. Maybe that will not happen in short run but that will cause a problem in the long run. But those people will not care because as long as they can get the benefit from casino, they will still do that and even they may reopen more accounts and use the other people's document to chase what they want. That is why the cheat gamblers will always found the way to stay at the casino and get the benefits of that before the casino found them.

Although this is one of the reasons that can be true but in the end even if we gamble and do KYC on our own identity when we want to leave and stop gambling actually it will not be a significant problem because after all gambling is the choice of each individual so in the end KYC with our own identity or someone else's will not be a problem for me.

What happens and makes it possible is that when we have an account with someone else's KYC then it will make us more able to do anything because even if there is no control and maybe even do some fraud in it we will also not be traced and that is an act that in my opinion is cowardly for everyone who wants to gamble but doesn't want to know that they are gambling so they use other people's data to smooth their intentions.

This is definitely not something that should be emulated but there are still a handful of people who still do the same thing like this.

We do know that there would really be those who are really that becoming too desperate for them to play on which it will really be coming into a point that they will really be that making use of others information just for them to be able to continue to play. We do know that we can be able to make use of ID's and other documents on which we can either see online or even on other ways or methods.
People will really be that normally be able to find ways as long they could be able to feed up their gambling addiction on which it is really that dangerous into those people on where their identity has been used by gambling means specially to those who dont really like for their identity to be exposed whether online or offline. As addiction becomes severe then you could expect that certain extent will really be done up by someone such as this action.

You're right.

It's still our choice whether to go on with our identities or just ask someone to do it for us. At the end, we can always leave and quit no matter what happens.

If we don't feel gambling anymore, that's what we want to do and stop wholly so that we will have some rest and that also indicates that we're able to control ourselves and games.

I agree with the sense of responsibility, but I also heard that some people find a way to win over the house but then the biggest problem is not winning over the house anymore but to be able to keep their accounts up and to get more accounts to bet

the guy said that after you become a recurrent winner they start to block your account so they can kill your edge, do you think this is true?

the thing is that when you are gambling at the addicted and you are being inquisitive to gamble for a restricted platform that you are not meant to gamble due to the identity and they are documentation to the platform so some people will have a trickish way in order to penetrate to the particular gambling website that there are not allowed to participate or enter to gamble so what causes this is addition or addicted in gambling because there is some people who cannot live with that participating in gambling in 2 days time or in 2 days time so there are gambling conscious and gambling inquisitive

You mean this thread? No, it wasn’t discussed here. What was mentioned is finding a way to gamble despite being restricted by a casino, like bypassing KYC requirements. For example, someone might get others to complete the KYC process for them so they can continue gambling.

As for “beating the house,” that’s a whole different story. No one can consistently beat the house, unless, of course, they’ve got a cheat code!


You have no edge, you’re just winning because you’re lucky. When it comes to having an edge, it’s the casino that holds it, thanks to their TOS designed to work in their favor.

Indeed and that will be dangerous if they don't know how to cure their desperate because that can makes them forget what is their reason to playing gambling. They just want to make money even if they already lose huge money and restricted from some casinos, that doesn't stop them. They will find out the way to have more accounts and verify it using other people documents which they can get easily.

It is like what happen in our real life where people will do all things to achieve their goals including using an illegal way. They must stop that before something bad happen to them and they can not prevent that. When we are ban from the casino, that means something wrong happen to us so we must find out and not to return to the casino for playing gambling.

Everyone will never run out of ideas to get what they want, like those who want to get more bonuses, of course they will outsmart it by using other people's documents if they themselves have used their documents and succeeded in getting the bonus. I myself have experienced something like this where my friend borrowed my personal documents to get a bonus and if successful he said he would share it evenly. Although actually it is the wrong and risky way because our private documents are used, and actually we can refuse our friends to borrow our documents because there is no obligation in this case, I myself before lending it consider it first, for example everything will be safe and my friend will be responsible if something happens then I lend it and vice versa.

Cheaters always somehow think that they are never going to get caught and then they will always be the one to act upset when they get caught when they should have known from the very start what could be the consequences of their actions. They should have thought that whatever the consequence was, it was worth the risk because of the benefits they will receive. But they do not seem to be prepared when they get caught. I do not understand how they could do this without feeling scared at all LOL. That takes some bravery.

That's right.

When luck comes and the huge amount has been won, it's about the next process that should be kept and have to be thought of. But most casinos only allow one account per user.

Yes, this is true in some cases.

There are casinos that blocks a winner that has withdrawn and won huge amounts on them because they think that it might happen again. And that's going to be a loss for them if that keeps on happening.

That is right because those people know how they can abuse the rules from many ways although casino can find out who are their members that abuse the system on the casino. If my friend borrow my personal document and only for verifying his account so he can get the bonuses, I will not give my document even if he say that he will give the bonus with some money as a gift. I will not tempting with that because I risk myself and him from doing that. I will suggest him to search from the other friends who wants to do that. I don't know if that will be safe for me or not but my personal document can be on the wrong hands.

Those cheater must change their minds because the casino will not let them doing that many times and the casino will found those who cheat. Those cheater will not stop doing that and still trying to enter to the casino just because of the bonuses and will not think about the risk that will happen to them. Maybe they will not stop doing that on the same casinos until they can get what they want and that means, they will face with the risk and that will be a blocking from the casino to their account.

Good advice by suggesting him to find someone else to borrow his documents, I myself certainly do not lend documents to just anyone, only to people I trust, as I have said it is indeed quite risky but I do not forget to always consider it first because I myself do not want to experience problems with my personal data.
With what you do when a friend wants to borrow a document to verify and you do not lend it, that is the right action, because that way your documents will be safe, keep it. Maybe I myself will try to refuse my friend who borrows my documents later.

I wasn't reffering specifically to this thread.

I agree that in fixed games and dice or other stuff there's no way to have an edge since the stuff is all mathematical and it'll return to the mean over a sufficient time frame, but don't you think it is possible to have a true edge on sports betting games?
this I can see happening

I will also like to suggest that you keep your documents at a safe place and not give it out to friends. The reason for keeping it in a safe place is that it will be hard for someone to find. I have lived with someone who do not bother to check where he kept his important documents because he believes that the place is safe. However, it's very important to continuously check where you keep your documents just in case one got missing you can be able to find it in time.

I like the away you put it from your last statement. the casinos don't just ban a user without any reason, when we are gambling, we are to also pay attention to their ToS, because this will be what will determine the longevity of our stay together with them on the platform, I've seen a situation whereby some gamblers have attempted on cheating on the gambling platform by making several attempts, so those that disobey will definitely receives the consequences to their action as being banned.

There is a bigger problem in given article, people sell their verification documents in exchange of few bucks. I don't know why they do that, that's so stupid. By the way, if someone really wants gambling, they'll always find a way. It's simply impossible to restrict a real gambler because they might register an account on their family member's name and this family member will fulfill every demand of the casino that they'll request for KYC verification, so who is there to control it? You can't set a camera in their house or force them to gamble with turned on camera to watch 24/7 whether it's the owner gambling with their account or the restricted gambler.

In context to gambling, you will be caught one day because when something is computerized and you cheated, you are living a footprint of that action you did and one day when the technical expert do his routine check, you will be caught red handed but outside gambling context, bro there are people that cheat and never get caught, if I'm lying ask females friends to tell you some of the secret things they have done behind their boyfriends, till date they never find out about those things.  8)

I'm gambling, I will rather leave a casino than cheat my way into their server trying to win what I may lose everything one day. Some gamblers has loss everything they built because they cheated one time in their life with the casino and since the casino don't know about it at first, they will let it go and make you repay after you have gather enough sum of money in your wallet before they kick you out of the casino and since you cheated, you wouldn't have the courage to do anything against them.

Surely everyone will store their own data in a safe place because it is a privacy that must be maintained, only a few people share or lend their personal documents to others, and I am one of those people because I once lent my personal documents to my friend, even though the reason was ridiculous by wanting to get a commission haha. ;D
Until now I have never experienced anything unwanted involved with my personal data that has previously been lent to my friend, hopefully nothing bad will happen to me. And in the future I will try to secure my private documents more. Thank you for your advice, friend.

When it comes to personal documents then i dont really see out for someone to give it to a friend or would really be exposing it to be seen by other people. This is something which is on private and not something to be shown off even if you do talk about close friend. If ever there's someone who do have the access with these information then it will really be mostly pertain about family members. If we do really tend to look up that when it comes to information then government do already know everything about us considering about birth registrations and other correlated information. This is standard and there's no way that we can avoid but in speaking about in giving out it easily like in services and other stuffs then these stuffs or info isnt something that be easily shared on.

Yes, but I am sure that there are still some people who do not know about the dangers of giving their personal data documents to others, many of them are easily tempted by money with the scenario of exchanging their personal data for a sum of money which recently also happened in my area, there was a group of people who asked for other people's personal data with the lure of giving a sum of money which if I'm not mistaken was around $ 3, what worries me is that those who get the offer are really enthusiastic in responding to the offer and without thinking twice give their identity to others. Although so far I have not heard of anything unwanted as a result of the scenario but of course it does not mean that it is impossible for them to experience problems in the future and there is also the possibility that the problems that will occur could be much bigger and require a significant amount of money to solve the problem.

You are right because we must responsible our document and not giving easily because of a nice offers from our friends. True friend will not takes his closest friend and risk him by using his identity just to verify his account in gambling. He will understand the risk so he will not trying to force us to gives our identity to him and he will search for the other ways. You should try that because that is for your safety and stay away from the risk. I am sure you can explain that better to your friends that want to borrow your identity and they will understand your explanation.

With so many people gambling, it will be difficult for casinos to check suspicious users one by one, that's why before gambling, you need to do KYC first to find out the user's identity, even though fraudulent gamblers can use other people's identities, but casinos can check every new member who registers and pay attention to how they gamble. If the gambler has indications of cheating, the casino has the right to freeze their funds and provide a statement regarding the gambling they do.

What? Whatever could go wrong using your own KYC can also happen to the other person that gamblers used to pass KYC, this is just an act of wickedness, is the other person not a human?

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I don't believe that every gamblers want to evade KYC verifications because they don't want to drop their identity, some have bad plans in mind, and moreover any online casino in 2024 that still accept ID cards only is a low rate casino, to pass KYC verifications online now has level up, no more drop just ID card and viola you passed.

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KYC verifications systems this days ask for real time identity, like holding your first submitted ID card, while some even ask you to write down today's date and hold it in real time, this is because of crazy people stealing identities online.

I will tell you what can go wrong, you can send your own identity for verification, and they can be unaccepted for undisclosed reason. Many years ago, I have sent documents to receive tokens, but they were rejected. It was simply written "failed passing KYC". The project gave only one attempt to pass it, and they never explain why and where I have failed. Same thing can happen anywhere and with anyone. User can simply get failed to pass nobody would bother giving any explanation; sometimes they dont even have to explain anything at all. Just fail and bye-bye.

That's true, but for some reason it's often more difficult to pass KYC if you've won a big prize but don't have any verification. Then dubious casinos usually check the gambler's documents very slowly and meticulously. One of my friends advised that before depositing money on a betting platform, it's better to pass KYC in advance. It seems reasonable, but on the other hand, what's the point? After all, if you don't win anything, it turns out that you sent your data for nothing.

that's true, but in the end of the day they make the decisions so if they want to ban an account even without providing a reason they can do it which can be unfair to the users
but I guess this is the risk you have on playing on other people's houses
right?

Sometimes the casino doesn't need to suspect the player of any fraudulent or cheating behaviour before they can conduct an investigation. Any big winning can trigger that, or if the gambler has been banned from their casino before, using the new identity to rejoin the playing pattern in particular games might be suspected, and they will ask for further verification to be sure if their suspicions are correct or not.

Its possible the casino can identify such gambker through their IP address since its assigned to only that user's device, except he changes his device or use a VPN. Sometimes KYC is the only way of determining is its the same person or not else all assumptions are just considered to be mistake. There are lots of user's of their service and and 2 or 3 person could be using the same strategy provided it brings them money. But what I suggest is, if the casino suspects any fraudulent activity by gamblers they should go ahead in freezing the account and ask for verification, but in platform where no KYC is required, I think they'll need more than suspension to freeze accounts of bettors.

Well, maybe only in that way will gamblers really leave because they have no other way. Because usually, gamblers only have a way to use VPN for restricted areas about gambling, but when a gambling site or platform implements KYC requirements, users who previously used VPN may also be affected. Because after all, when previously they could log in with VPN but because their area has been revealed from the identity obtained, then in the end the related user will be restricted from using the gambling site. But with that, it is at least a reason for us to choose to remain anonymous because by doing so, users will remain comfortable and safe from existing restrictions.

Some people is being banned based on the violent the rules and the regulations or the platform because once you fail not to agree with the team and condition the platform most especially casino they will think of that you are looking for a way to manipulate their system and the base on that they will not be comfortable with you any longer so that is one of the reasons they do ban some account and some people do always be greedy of having different account in one particular casino why it is written in their rules and the regulation that no person should have a dual account in their platform so once they have noticed that one person is making use of two account they will stop you not to have access to the account so many persons that experience account ban it is because of their inability to follow the rules and regulation of that particular platform

Casino will do the right when they suspect their members has indication of cheating. The casino can check suspicious users one by one because they can monitor all of their members although they need time to check it all of them. But even the casino can do that easily, the cheat gamblers will not stop trying to abuse the system because they want to get the offers as many as they can. But if casino can be strict to those cheat gamblers, they will leave the casino with desperate because they think that they can not cheat the casino anymore.

The same way people who get banned on this forum may pretend to be gone but still find their way here, that's just how it is on these casino sites. When they know they have something they benefit from a place, no one would want to let go so easily. Most time s these gamblers may be drawn to the free rewards or spins they enjoy from playing at these casino and thus may not be willing to let go so easily. But to me it's just like adding firee to fire. If these casino eventually find out that it's same individual, the account might be flagged and if some funds were already deposited, it will be lost. So it's best to avoid such case scenario.

In my environment there are many people who gamble online and they will get a balance bonus when they succeed in getting friends or other people to register and gamble at their casino using a referral code, this case is almost the same as the use of personal data because sometimes the person who invites them does it themselves and indirectly knows the personal data of their friends who registered.

None other than those who share their personal data with others of course because they are tempted by the commission, with the pure commission that they will get and not to mention the commission from the first person who borrows their data who will usually offer another commission if they later succeed in winning.

If you want to do KYC it is important to check the casino you are going to register sometimes casinos are often misused by dishonest users as a place for money laundering and also stealing other people's identities but that is in casinos that are not very well known, if the casino has many users and is guaranteed security then you don't need to worry about sending your personal data, it is also for the good of the user if they win some money they can make withdrawals without any problems and the casino does not suspect you as an active gambling user.

I’m always very cautious when it comes to my privacy or someone asking to use my ID to get pass a verification process, regardless of who the person is and regardless of how much you may decide to offer me, I’d still turn it down, I’ve seen multiple situations where people steal or borrow other people’s identity to take up loans or to verify a casino account and use the account to launder money, endangering and risking the identity of an innocent person, I’ve seen it multiple times and it has inspired me to protect my identity with all I’ve got, so no matter who the person is, I wouldn’t release my identity because I see no reason good why anyone would want to use my ID when you can just use yours.

Currently, there are indeed many online casinos that are developing and we must be able to be careful in determining which casinos are indeed trusted casinos so that we can gamble comfortably, determining trusted online casinos and those that cheat seems difficult, I myself experienced this where I once experienced my winnings not being paid, it was annoying and with this experience made me careful when looking for a new online casino that I would visit.
With the many casinos that I found, only a few casinos submitted KYC to their visitors, I think that casinos that submit KYC are the ones that can be trusted because of guaranteed data security.

some websites block VPNs but you are correct, sometimes all you have to do is use it
but if a gambler don't intend to KYC they should probably be playing on a different playground than risking a big win not getting paid because they didn't send their documents

better to avoid the issue from the beggining.

I believe you mean - only few casinos ask from their players to submit their kyc docs. But in this today's set-up, most licensed casinos are now asking KYC details from their customers for compliance. As they need to abide by the regulations mandated by their licensing authority, they need to implement their AML/KYC protocol to their clients.
And with the compliance - make sure you are submitting your credentials to a trustworthy site. At least, known reputable site and you have the intention of using it more often. Because if you will only be an occasional player and will use small amount, think before sending your details. As much as possible, limit where you submit your KYC.

If you own a company, you will understand why some of these casinos request for KYC from their users and you will understand them better. It's either you serve few people that don't want to do KYC and get pounded later by law enforcement than do the kyc and run your business free, most often everyone does KYC in every casino they play, they can't even differentiate between why it's good to KYC or the consequences of doing KYC, this is why you see KYC becomes the standard verification by casino.

If not that some of these casinos don't know how to handle data and users information, kyc actually help limit abusers from using the casino the way they like and if reduce cheating. Unless you are a pro in cheating, if there is a KYC verification in a casino, you wouldn't be able to cheat the system but just like I said some of these casino sell users information which is very bad thing, you don't know if they even follow data protection policy.

In my opinion, casinos that provide KYC and each player must fulfill this is not a problem, because KYC must also aim to maintain security as well as money laundering, so when there is a casino that has rules for its players to fulfill KYC, it is a natural thing.

With the many casinos that are indeed developing, it is possible that there are indeed casinos that have a bad reputation so that their goal is data or money laundering with the KYC required of their players, so we ourselves must be smart in choosing a casino because of course we ourselves do not want to experience any problems.

It's not a problem, when a casino asks its players to fill out kyc then the players must fulfill it, this is not intended to make them negative because it is intended for their own safety, for some players who are usually reluctant to comply with this they will be surprised when they later experience problems either when withdrawing or others, and at that time they have no choice but to comply, I mean if it can be done at the beginning why not.
Actually it is our respective rights to comply or not, but for example when registering at a new casino and the casino asks us to fulfill kyc at the beginning then I will do it, maybe for those who are not comfortable with this have their own views why they are not happy with the casino that asks for kyc on him.

KYC is one of the regulator's tools for managing organizations that work with money, so the passage of KYC on many gambling platforms is inevitable.

The issue is that some dishonest casinos refuse to pay the gambler's winnings due to far-fetched reasons. It is a pity that the regulator does not have a tool to solve such cases. Therefore, the gambler needs to analyze the gambling sector to play only on platforms with a good reputation.

Doing that kind of acts is dangerous and sooner or later it will have consequences and that is something that cannot be avoided, if KYC of other people is Obtained at some point the casino will want to have more things, more requirements and the Names and personal data of the person appearing is something that should not be done, we must Remember that they are not only identification documents, some even go to videos of the person live and direct just to be able to Verify that Things are with that person, and that is to avoid this type of problems.

You are right, it is not only better, but also safer to always adhere and obey every restriction rules coming from casinos to the gamblers,, and also when the restriction is coming from the government of the country, it all depends on the sentiment of the people concerning the restriction, if generally, people accept it and ready to work with the government to ensure that defaulters are well punished, it's better to obey such restrictions as well. But if the restrictions is one that is not accepted by the masses, it simply means that alot of people will try to find alternative ways of bypassing such restriction, in such a situation, there is nothing the government can do since they can not punish everybody in the country.

Coming back to casinos restricting users of a particular country, I will never advice anyone to go against such, by finding alternative means of bypassing it, this has never ended well for most who did it.

at the end of the day kyc probably hurts more than helps
because even though it can detain one abuser or another one many will pass by using fake ids, paying someone to kyc for them or simply hacking the system somehow

no system is hack-proof

I believe there are always a way out of everything for gamblers when being restricted by a casino and a more reason multiple accounts are created to soot in for that demands and mostly when this happens it simply means the user is solely involved in some illegal acts that may include theft  and all of that, so definately there should be a way out for such restricted gamblers but casino should be on check for that always.

It's okay in my opinion it doesn't put players in trouble when they follow one of the rules that the casino provides (kyc). Many casinos require their visitors to do kyc for the security of their own accounts, but indeed for some people there are those who are uncomfortable with this like my friend who for some reason he really didn't want to do it when he found a casino like this, he preferred to look for another casino that did not ask him for kyc. Indeed, with the many casinos operating now, it is difficult for us to distinguish which casinos are trusted and which are fake, so we must be smart in choosing a casino so as not to experience unwanted things, such as the many advertisements that are now exposed, don't be gullible unless you are really curious that is your own right.

Yes, gamblers who are restricted by the casino will finds a way to keeps gambling even if they needs to create other accounts. That will not stops them to enter to the casino but they don't thinks that is breaking the rule from the casino. Maybe they are aware of that but they keep doing that to fill their wanting to playing gambling. So it will not be easy to remove their accounts one by one but the casino will still make sure that they can handle that problem. If the casino found that account, they just need to ban or restrict the account so their cheating members will not have a chance to gamble.

I have previously seen offers on earning sites such as registering with your documents and receiving a certain amount as a prize. The amount is insignificant, but the offers are received for regions with very meager earnings, for people for whom such income can also be significant. I have seen people post documents of their relatives, including even very old people. It is funny to imagine that some ancient grandmother becomes an avid casino player. Buying such documents, people resell them further. As a rule, such discrepancies, including age, which logically should not be fond of games, and discrepancies in IP addresses, will be the primary reason for the ban for players who want to continue the game.

I'm just going to drop my own opinion and it doesn't matter, it shouldn't unless you sees things as I do.

Don't bother starting something you would probably not finish, because using VPN connection or borrowing someone's else identity can backfire big time, it could hit you so hard like making you lose access to your Big win.

All these can be prevented from the beginning, start your gambling career on a platform with clean foundation, it is too much hassle to start using VPN connection.

I see from experience and cases that occur, banning users carried out by general online casinos is like the rules we know, if they are in a prohibited country and are forced to gamble once or twice, they pass, the third time may not happen again, as well as with the kyc process there are their own provisions, the casino can ban users who are detected to be cheating or breaking real rules.

I think there is no other way for casinos to prohibit users who violate their rules, apart from the rules that have been determined, it can be seen from the user's perspective that the country is legal for the casino, they are still safe for gambling activities.

Like you said this.

It's a pretty clear case, it backfires on ourselves.

For that reason, my assessment is, gamble according to the applicable rules and try to remain KYC in an official way, if you don't want your identity to be known, don't gamble rather than having to manipulate other people's identities.

Some of the games are restricted to their countries and some of the casino does not support their country at the same time reason why some of the player find a way because they would like to play yes there's other platform but of course if the casino has a really good service with tons of events and bonuses could be a reason why they urge to play more.
If the casino would like to create a move using the MAC address of the device could be additional layer on them with the IP address but still there's other catch if the player use other device and internet connection with their simcards so still there's a lot of way so why it's hard to the casino ban users.

Such a player who uses the identity of another person to pass KYC will definitely have problems in the future when the casino blocks the withdrawal and requires to re-pass KYC. Therefore, using someone else's documents is not the right decision.

They can escape at first for cheating the process for providing the identity of other person. But once the same process will happen and the person they used before will be out of reach for them then for sure that this is the start of their misery especially if they encounter a serious problem or there's huge money stuck which they cannot get unless if they submit their KYC details.

So erase some thoughts of doing this and just follow the rules and restriction implemented since there's a lot of casino which our region is allowed.

Better choose the safest option since its not good good to take a risk and feel sorry later on once we encounter an issue to the site we are currently using.

With the government’s efforts to crack down on illegal activities like money laundering, they now require all gambling sites to implement KYC verification for all users. There are no exceptions, as I know; if not during registration, casinos will surely ask for KYC during withdrawals.

If we understand the government’s purpose, we can also see why casinos do this. However, even in this situation, we must be extra cautious and stick to trusted casinos. It is very important to ensure our information doesn’t fall into the wrong hands or get used for fraudulent activities, which is very common to happen on scam sites.

I know that I shouldn't go against what they prohibit , because that is already in another legal issue, but it is necessary to know that prohibiting certain activities will not solve anything, on the contrary, it encourages the creation of illegal activities with respect to that, in that sense I do not blame those who want to echo their great anger, and that is where governments and People who are not pro-casinos come in, and that is something that should not be, sometimes a government what it does is give more hatred to its citizens, that is why we are the ones who must make the difference in every sense.

you can (almost) always change country
easier said than done, of course
but the tendency for countries that limit freedom is probably to have more people flying away for places where they have a better quality of life.
many times government create several problems trying to fix things

I used to think that it was easy for a gambler to cheat an online casino if they banned him, because it was enough to find fake documents (there are a lot of them and they are easy to buy) and also install a VPN on your computer or smartphone.
But in fact, the casino very easily sees who is using a VPN, and this is surprising. This is the first time I saw that changing the IP address does not help. I don’t know how, probably by some unique device identification number, but not everyone bypasses the login to an online casino now. Some are prohibited from entering and this cannot be deceived or bypassed in any way.

many websites block VPNs nowadays, it's not a foolproof solution

if you really want to cheat on online gambling websites and casinos my main advice would be:
- don't do it

either stop gambling completely or go the correct way with KYC and everything they ask...
just not worth to cheat it, and it's not ethical either in case you care

For every activity in this life there are always alternative solutions, what happens is that alternative solutions always go against the normal laws of many, be it rules, or what is in place in a country such as governments or regulatory entities, but for everything there is a solution, so yes , players will always find a way to play when they cannot do it from their country, the most common are paid VPNs, paid VPNs are the most used, of course if casinos have good security they detect that they are using VPN and that can result in problems and that is worse, but there are those alternatives.

I thought there are some VPN that are so strong and almost invincible to devices that do not have additional helps to help detect if VPN are being used. I am not talking about free VPN but the expensive ones that we have to buy. Casinos do not have all the technology and you can bypass some of their restrictions but it would not be a good advice to do them because you can be caught and when that happens and there are still some money on your account, you can get blocked and you lose everything depending on the casinos rules because some of them allow you to withdraw your money left in your account before they finally block it. They will give you some days notice to do that but do not hope on that happening.

It makes me think it is better not to try at all rather than risk our money as surely the casino detects it. I believe this is one of the reasons why some accounts get frozen, and many people claim they didn’t break any rules without realizing that using a VPN is already a violation especially if we are coming from restricted countries.

That is why, instead of going to online casinos, it is safer to stick to local casinos. It is much better than forcing ourselves into something that is clearly prohibited.

vYes, without a doubt things are as you say, but if we start from the rights of us as humans, is it fair that they prohibit us? Is it fair that some kind of supposed boss restricts us even in our way of having fun? A casino as such should not care about anything but its people entering, I am sure that over time they will let customers use VPN, because these prohibitions do not make sense, it is not logical, but starting from the fact that in the world things are going to that level it is very sad, that is why many do it with the VPN, but obviously that is a way that is not recommended but it is a way.

This is a piece of insightful information because there are still some people who trust their family members, or neighbors in the aspect of using their private information, or identification documents for some online website registration, and doing so could lead to what you explained.
Another one is an indirect provision of identification documents which are documents some people provide to shady websites in which the shady actors later sell the ID information on the dark web.

Having said that, I have never experienced a casino ban before, all because the casino terms and conditions are what I always read first. I hope everyone reading this can also practice the habit of understanding the rules and regulations (with terms and condition) of a casino before using it.

Some gamblers would deny their actions when they realized they have done something contrary to rules and regulations of a casino then they would claim the casino ban them without any fault of theirs. However, ignorant to the law or rule is not an excuse not to be punished. To read TOS is sacrosanct to play in casinos.


Both offline and online gambling have their different fun and experience. Some people choose to play in online casino for different reasons like for security purposes. Security from family, some married men don't like to be seen gambling in public, some hide from their wife and children. Another security reason is when you win gambling through your phone your winnings are not known by the public and you are by that not susceptible
to attack except you are the one who disclosed your winning to the public. But with offline, you can't hide your winnings because people can know that easily or agent/workers can disclose their biggest winners innocently.

isn't it just better to opt for a casino that lets you play with or without VPNs and that has no KYC?
this is probably the most guaranteed way to not get involved into some trouble like when you make it big, win a prize but then you're unable to withdraw and use it because you had no KYC or something like that

this is the best approach

So that is why restricted gamblers will know how they can still playing gambling especially when they know about online gambling. They will still playing gambling by online because they can hides their gambling activity from other people so they will have their time to continue for gambling. Even if some casinos restricted their IP or block their account, those gamblers will not care because they believes they can find other ways to keep playing gambling on that site. That is happen to us which some of us want to still hide our gambling activity so we know what and how we should do to keep playing gambling.

Yes, it is the best it can be, but since things are so difficult for some casinos, the fact of using a VPN should not imply not doing the VPN , that is what it is exclusively for, not Only to protect the connection or privacy, if a person is from a country that is prohibited and is in another Country , the KYC can be done, the same with a VPN, the VPN is only to be able to connect from a Different location and be able to access the casino ,  well maybe I have a Different Approach , because for me no country should be prohibited and if a person uses a VPN then they should allow it for everything , both for KYC and for playing and being able to withdraw.

for real, casinos could block VPN usage is they're concerned about it
this is a common practice nowadays and many sites block it.
though it can usually be passed by using a dedicated IP
it's a game of cat and mouse after all

Yeah, but in the end who do you think will lose in the end here if casinos found out that you are using as VPN to get around country restrictions? That's why it's not totally recommended to use it even if you think that you can justify it, i.e. you are a traveling person and so your IP will be different every time. But it's going to be a long battle to proved that with casinos specially if you are like withdrawing huge amount. Same as what this thread is all about, some group of individuals buying documents for KYC purpose so that they can play and again get around the policy of the casinos. Sometimes it really best to just play on casinos that you don't have problem with, or have your KYC pass instead of trying new one and then will have issues later, IMHO.

it depends if the casino is honest or not, some casinos have better track on paying costumers,
it also probably depends on the size of the win, if it is too big than there are greater chances of they asking for more documents and being troublesome on the process
maybe the safest way is sticking to the ones that ask no KYC.

Yes, but if you look at it it doesn't make sense, if a casino blocks VPNs, there are other much more famous casinos that allow the use of VPNs, so that automatically removes customers from a casino. If I see that there is a casino where my country is restricted and then I use a VPN and they still ban me, then I don't enter that casino anymore, because it's not the only one. I'm sure there are better ones. So in view of this, you have to see that there is more variety in this, and the casino is the one that loses in the end. A casino does not support itself, it needs customers , and if the customers get hostile? How would they do afterwards to attract more customers? It's like stabbing Themselves.

If you're found being restricted from using a particular platform, then don't be too smart on yourself in finding an alternative access route to the platform, instead try and look for another platform and start all over with them, don't use vpn to bypass the sanction, because this may not be a permanent solution, when discovered, they may ban and by that time it may come unaware on us.

That is the problem of some gamblers. They don't understand why they have been banned, and instead of accepting it, they even try to force themselves to enter using an alternative way (VPN). I believe they know the consequences of their actions, but still, they deny it when caught and pretend they are not doing such bypasses or illegal entries. 

Indeed, why choose to stay in that particular casino if we have other options? In fact, most casinos have the same games. Well, they might have different gambling experiences, which some gamblers are after. 

Yes, problems will be the common denominator, that's why I think that casinos that do not allow VPN have a good chance of being left behind, because there are casinos that do allow it, in the event of a drama everyone will support the casino, just because they repeat that this should not be, knowing that they are cutting themselves short, and that is why they give strength to the regulations, but I say something, without a doubt if it Allows it, why not ? That is a feature that is very good when choosing a favorite casino, it will have a wide Advantage over the others.

That's addiction playing here, cause after being restricted they get so uncomfortable and look for ways to keep up their gambling habits and that's what has led them to always finding a way out of everything. Most times it's not about money but one should  adhere to some level of restrictions and this has been a very common issue in gambling thereby causing havoc to gambling sites.

No doubt, excessive gambling is always wrong and one may lose money if they do not care about the gambling activities and how often they play. However if the gambler is restricted from a gambling site, he or she cannot gamble for sometime if it is a temporary ban and may never be able to play if it is a permanent ban.

As OP told how gamblers find a way to still access a site on which they are restricted, I think gamblers have all the freedom to make account on any other site and gamble there. Why it is so important to gamble on the site where they are restricted ?

Those gamblers will not care with the exceptions and prohibitions from casino because they can find other ways to return to the casino. If they can think more about that, the casino will not let them back to their casino and will block or the worst thing that can happen is the casino can hold their funds without giving back to those gamblers. If they can realize that prohibitions is to control themselves from gambling, they should leave the casino and solve their problem first before they return to gambling. But not many gamblers realize that.

Doesn't it mean that when your account is restricted in a casino, that means you violate some of their rules and policies, then others suddenly have their accounts banned because what is common in crypto gambling is dummy or multiple accounts like that.

Although, there are other gamblers who even if they have a kyc, it's okay with them as long as it's a reputable one and has a good background history in this field, it's okay with them and I don't have a problem with that either.

We can’t expect everyone to understand how casinos operate because some people insist they are right and have not broken any rules. They keep denying it, thinking that the casino won’t notice but they are wrong. Yes, some might get away with it for now, but it won’t last as soon they will eventually get caught.
That is why, if something is not allowed, we don’t need to force ourselves. Otherwise, we are risking our money from losing. It is already happened to others, so no one is exempt from the consequences

This is very difficult, things will always be the most difficult way for everyone, they will always require KYC , they will always require not using VPN, this is something that can never guarantee a person's Privacy , so those who like anonymity will simply not play in casinos anymore unless it is a decentralized casino.

Living now with the new rules and regulations of casinos thanks to Government Organizations and others is something that should never have been allowed , but due to all the obligations with the licenses, everything has been taken to this point.

I'd say that most people simply don't care about privacy and will keep on using the websites anyways
it's a minor part of the public that would be more concerned about accessing with a VPN and would migrate their bets to a different house if their main one blocked VPNs
I don't know...

You have just stated the right thing because apart from using other ways to access a casino that restricted a gambler as a result of breach of terms of service, they can abandon that casino and move to another since there are numerous casino sites to play gambling. Using other people's identities to gamble has been a long-time strategy of those who uses multiple accounts to gamble so it's not like it's something new. Some of the people they take their data to register on casino sites are even non gamblers who may be their close relatives and have no idea of what they are using that information for but since they are relatives, he can earn their trust. The truth is that just like some other platforms, there is no way casinos can handle all problems they encounter on their site.

We can't but we can apply that to ourselves so we should understand how casinos operate. We cannot feels right with what we did before we read the TOS from the casino rules so we can understand what we can do and don't. We don't have to trying to register on the casino where they are clearly prohibit people that come from the blacklisted country in their list because that can give us a trouble. They can easily to block our account and our access to their site and if we still force ourselves to try, they will not let that happens. Even if in beginning, you can pass their system, that will not takes too long because when you want to withdraw your money, their system will check everything before they process the withdrawal.

It's like a mine that is clearly visible and is still trying to enter with forbidden access.
tried to make a deposit using crypto and in the end it was read by the system that using a VPN and the account was blocked,
there was no refund if it was done so it was just a waste.

But some interesting facts when I used a new online casino that banned my country, I got a message from the marketing admin himself even though my place was banned I was allowed to use a VPN, even though it was against the ToS that was clearly stated.

If you still use VPN to access the casino but that against the ToS, that will just a matter of time to see they will ban your account and block your access. The casino can do anything with your account because they have full access to all of their members. It is better we don't take the risk to still access the casino and register just because we are tempting with the promo from the casino. Many casinos that we can do which is allow us to playing gambling so that will not worth to do to keep playing gambling when we are clearly against the ToS.

I see those who are trying to restrict addicted gamblers as self-deceivers, they are tantamount to cutting grass at the surface without uprooting it, it will surely grow again. Gamblers have to be healed before you can have a reliable results in them, you can't restrict them as adults and expect them not to find alternatives. But if they are healed of it, you will even give them the freedom to gamble and they will see it as an abomination.

We already agreed to be accountable for our mistakes and receive the appropriate punishment when we agreed to the ToS as we registered on the casino but many people still think that the casino will not punish them for disobeying the rules of the casino. Some casino allow the use of VPN but many of them do not allow and when you are caught using VPN to access the casino, your account will be blocked regardless of the amount of money that is in your account and then you lose all that money therefore before thinking about disobeying the rules and regulations of a casino, we should also think about the consequences of our actions so we do not blame the casino for being unfair when we are the ones that disobeyed their regulations.

If we still insist on playing at a casino that is actually inaccessible and can only be accessed using a VPN, then we must be prepared for the risks. So if one day we can no longer access it because it is blocked, while we still have some money in it, then don't look for a scapegoat to blame, because in fact we already know that. Because most of the people I see leaving negative traces are people like that, and in fact we can also see on this forum how people come with complaints even with the narrative that fraudulent casinos are people who initially did not understand the terms and conditions, because we can also see the response from the casino concerned.

They are underestimate of what the casino can do when they are breaking their rules so they still abuse the system and some mistakes. But casino will not tolerate with something that breaks their rules and will do something such as block their account, ban or freeze their account and ask for the explanation from their member. But that will not happen for the restricted gamblers because they will search for the other ways to keep playing gambling on that casino. They do that because they like to stay on the casino but they don't think that is a mistake if they still do that.

If that is the case, maybe those people should not risk too much money for playing gambling so when something bad happens to them, they will not regret and can accept it because of their mistake. If casino block our account, we should thinks about what mistake that we are doing so we can ask to the support system to help us to check it and tell us so we can fix that. But if that is because we do something that breaks their rules, we must admitted and leave the casino and will not try use the casino to playing gambling. Those who come to this forum and complain about the casino should understand what is really happen to them and check if they are doing a mistake or not.

sometimes if a system is blocking your VPN account you can try buying a dedicated IP (instead of using the common pool ones) but this is not guaranteed to work
at the end of the day it is better to follow the rules, it works best like that...

using banned websites on your country is also quite risky

But in such scenario, don't you think wouldn't it be unfair for a casino blocking a users account and yet not offering any means of unblocking if a valid reason is been issued by the user. Because as humans, inasmuch as I know we can not always be 100% perfect at the time, what if a gambler mistakenly logs into his/her casino while their VPN is still on, what do you think should be the faith of such gambler who did it on mistake and not purposely? Because despite the fact that a casino will always want to prevent ban evaders, the truth of the fact is that they can never be 100% effective.

Looks like the most common restriction is based on location from what have been seeing so far in the comment section… I don’t think this is quite a problem if a reputable casino doesn’t allow you to register do to your location then there’s something attached to why they might not want a registration form that location, finding a way around it to proceed with your registration will later result to future restrictions especially when you’re ready to withdraw your funds.. If it’s because of privacy then KYC is not for you at all.. find a casino without the preference of KYC, there’s likely no restrictions based on location.. so you good.
Avoid VPNs it won’t end well if you’re trying to bypass restriction unless you have a clear on it from the Casino it self because it’s always against their TOS..

but there are very few that we can find who does not ask for KYC , and i find it more safer when we are playing in KYC asking site .

That is the point, mate. If the casino automatically blocks registrants coming from banned countries, this won't happen. Unfortunately, VPNs became their solution, and they believed they could hide their place forever. If they are not caught by now, it can be soon.

Casino has been wise already, and using a VPN is not a new thing for them; that is why they also use technology that could track and take them down. And aside from that, asking KYC could help to stop them. It makes no point of breaking the rules because we still get caught in the end. 


 
 

that's true, not many websites without kyc, specially if you need one that bridges with fiat
you can find some that are permissionless for prediction markets like polymarket but they lack structure when it comes to sports betting

at the end of the day you'll have to choose if you really want to keep your privacy or if this is not that important.

Definitely, they're fond of creating an overall presence for themselves at every point in time.They are very quick to taking the next step towards gambling to their own satisfaction at last.I'll like to say that gamblers are naturally smart people,and it's just for themselves alone.To crown it all,Restricted gamblers are not just restricted gamblers it's not that easy for them to comply and adhere to restrictions no matter the pressure exerted on them.

I can assure you that they are gamblers who are still very obsessed with winning in gambling so that they always do various ways just to be able to realize their gambling desires, I understand what you mean that gambling is for those smart people in the sense that they can manage everything well and in balance in the sense that they still get entertainment along with winning bonuses and also stay in a safe situation without experiencing unwanted things such as losing significant amounts of money that cause various problems in life. On the other hand, it is actually quite simple if for example you want to be a safe gambler in the sense of avoiding various bad impacts where the key is not to prioritize winning and that mentality can only be had when you really understand the whole concept of winning and losing in gambling.

Satisfaction is the key but not all will really be that able to have such level and this is why if they arent that contented on what they are really that having done that then they will really be finding up the way on which they will really be able to do it. Now that we are talking about gambling then not all will really be having that good control towards into their decisions at the time that you do make out such engagement then it will really be that up to you. Getting banned or having that restriction then its not something that will be stopping them completely on playing so it will really be that up to you on how you would be gonna handling out yourself.
When you do have that kind of addiction then you would definitely be that looking up for ways and methods on which you will really be able to play up again. If there's that interest then you will definitely be finding up the ways for you to deal up with. Its really just that up to you whether you do have that control or not when it comes to moderation.

It is no surprise that most gamblers are after for the potential winnings. Who would not want some winnings from their bets? I don't think anyone would just bet and not hope to win. So for those who are betting, it means, they are also hoping that they will win. And for those who experienced the bad scenarios owed to gamblin, those people will learn their lessons and so they will know how to contain their gambling activities. Because if you already put yourself in a tight position, you will surely say to yourself, never again.

This does not really started today because the offer could be somehow big based on the agreement. Gambling is getting out of hand by some gamblers would think all their lives based on gambling and the reasons why this will continue for long is because many are not really ready to work. Some just expect the government to pay them so they can have something on their table when there are so many that are working just to take care of their need. There are still chronic gamblers that would lure people to sell their accounts from them so they can use it to gamble illegal which is very risky. Many would not know the crime they intend to do with the account but because of the money involved, they would want to do it.

I don't people who said that they gamble because of entertainment, I doubt most of them with my full chest, the reason they participate on gambling is because of profit making, but many of them disagree with some people that they gamble only because of entertainment, most of gamblers their major objectives to gamble is as result of they want to win, so therefore gambling is all about wining that's what anyone partake on gambling have in mind to gamble, many people have different ideology and different views why they participate in gambling, every gambler have a target and the target is winning.