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Title: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: Dotto on April 01, 2014, 12:04:10 AM Today I have sell 0.1BTC in ebay. The user "redstar7474" has buy it with paypal. I have sended the 0.1 to her.
Later, ebay has sended me this message: MC999 eBay listings removed - unauthorized user of buyer or bidder account Quote Hello XXX, We recently learned that someone was using an account to bid on or buy items without the account owner's permission. All associated fees have been credited to your account. Please note that we're working with the account owner to prevent any additional unauthorized activity. Your listings may be eligible for relisting through My eBay. If your listing is eligible, you'll see it in your "Unsold" section in My eBay. Listings that aren't eligible for relisting won't appear in the "Unsold" section. We're sorry for any inconvenience, and we thank you for your patience and cooperation. Here are the listings that were canceled: 201064162400 - 0.1 BTC Bitcoin Thanks, eBay Please don't reply to this message. It was sent from an address that doesn't accept incoming email." So they had take me off my earnings and I have lost the 0.1BTC. Which seems totally unfair, as if it has been really hacked, itīs the fault of the hacked person for not protecting her account and password. The bitcoin adress of the scammer is 182qjk5U49nsYxGQk4HGMCTad8gNRY5QZL Probably he/she will be using differents adresses, anyway I post this info here for the records. Beware of the bloody scammers and NEVER, NEVER use paypal in this context. I hope at least my mistake can help others. Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: E.exchanger on April 01, 2014, 12:09:48 AM Sorry about that dude but it's still 0.1btc and people have lost you can't even imagine trading with PayPal so just relax atleast you learned you lesson !! Just don't forget to check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: Sithara007 on April 01, 2014, 01:23:35 AM Never trade BTCs with Ebay. They don't permit BTCs there.
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: trynmpo on April 01, 2014, 01:54:29 AM Ebay and PayPal equals to high risk of scam if you fall for it its totally your fault.
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: durrrr on April 01, 2014, 02:08:40 AM i recommend to use local bitcoins brother. its more safe. also id even recoommend the forum if you use a trusted escrow so both parties are safe its a good deal
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: elavenil on April 01, 2014, 05:47:27 AM Why you are selling in ebay? selling digital items in ebay is always risk. You cannot able to show the shipping proof.
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: troy112 on April 01, 2014, 06:05:38 AM Digital items hell selling bitcoins was bad.. Paypal and bitcoin are arch enemy
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: SimplyBTC on April 01, 2014, 03:55:35 PM We got scammed the exact same way a few years ago when we first started out. It was clear the account was never hacked but paypal didn't bother to investigate it. Luckily we had withdrawn the funds and just refused to give the money back to paypal because it was their poor security that allowed it to happen!
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: blacksails on April 01, 2014, 04:08:10 PM Sorry to hear about your loss. Rule number 1 is to never sell bitcoin using a payment system that can be reversed.
I've read too many threads like this. So this is a good reminder, and I hope it will stop someone from doing the same mistake. Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: MonkeyDOH on April 01, 2014, 07:22:14 PM Rule number 2 is to trust no one, Paypal and Ebay has to be avoided.
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: Onews1990 on April 03, 2014, 11:37:01 AM This happens always with Ebay and selling BTC's with it. PayPal takes the buyer side no matter what and even if you show them a txid proof they won't care mostly.
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: Domino on April 03, 2014, 01:38:12 PM Sorry to hear your loss. But, this has happened many many times.
The buyer only need to claim he has been hacked, and eBay will credit his account back. Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: Cheesus on April 03, 2014, 01:48:07 PM This happens always with Ebay and selling BTC's with it. PayPal takes the buyer side no matter what and even if you show them a txid proof they won't care mostly. Yep, can confirm this. Paypal never going to mess with bitcoin side - apperently it's too complicated for them. Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: zolace on April 10, 2014, 09:51:13 PM Im telling you guys if you wanna sell bitcoin use the USPS COD, once they receive the box with the penny in it, then you can release the bitcoin once they sign it, so you wont have deal with paypal, simple as that.
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: cookiemonsterwhat on April 11, 2014, 01:55:16 AM Im telling you guys if you wanna sell bitcoin use the USPS COD, once they receive the box with the penny in it, then you can release the bitcoin once they sign it, so you wont have deal with paypal, simple as that. Yeah, because the product is trackable so it can be good on the sellers end. anything that doesnt track, you are increasing your chances of losing money. Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: Holm on April 11, 2014, 10:28:39 AM it seems the is no way to sells bitcoins on e-bay, from PayPal protection
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: Kiki112 on April 12, 2014, 12:37:52 PM this doesn't make sense, so someone used his account to make a purchase and he gets the item and the money? ???
at least he would need to return the coins, I mean, eBay can check it on blockchain.. Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: Holm on April 20, 2014, 06:53:28 PM if the person have excellent rating, the is no problem to use ebay
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: lynn_402 on April 20, 2014, 06:57:12 PM if the person have excellent rating, the is no problem to use ebay This does not solve OP's problem, since the account of his buyer was hacked. eBay or Paypal should provide an escrow service, that's the minimum effort they should do for choosing to provide cryptocurrencies trading and collecting high fees on them. Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: Holm on April 20, 2014, 07:00:37 PM if the person have excellent rating, the is no problem to use ebay This does not solve OP's problem, since the account of his buyer was hacked. eBay or Paypal should provide an escrow service, that's the minimum effort they should do for choosing to provide cryptocurrencies trading and collecting high fees on them. you must check previous transactions (when and what was sold). But anyway ebay should come up with something serious to protect Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: lynn_402 on April 20, 2014, 07:04:13 PM you must check previous transactions (when and what was sold). But anyway ebay should come up with something serious to protect But what if the buyer's account was hacked right before pruchasing bitcoins on eBay? There's no way to know, I would not feel safe selling there without escrow. Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: brandon.gur on April 21, 2014, 07:41:46 AM u are right for 100%
Title: Re: Ebay + paypal: aware food for the scammers Post by: Orthy on April 22, 2014, 02:36:25 AM Another lesson learned. Sorry for your loss.
But thank you for sharing. Such experience keeps everyone warned and aware. |