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Title: Trading and losing
Post by: Oshosondy on January 01, 2025, 02:48:18 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Faisal2202 on January 01, 2025, 04:32:05 PM
1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
I agree with you trading alts is very dangerous because they can liquidate us anytime and even in spot they pose a great lose threat. Although their are ways to manage the risk like diversifying the money. Point 3 is a very good one because many of us don't get it, even sometimes I think this is the low of a coin and I think it won't go below this point and invest all but after sometime market gives another chance to buy more cheap.

But now I don't have funds, I learned this the hard way and we all did. Earning less is really better than chasing big profit and ending up in big lose. I have been into this scenario before as I planned to make big profit from a trade I took at 20th or 21st of the December but I end up holding on it till now but I expected to close the trade sooner. I think I still have to hold it for the next 20 days.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Rruchi man on January 01, 2025, 04:39:43 PM
The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Natalim on January 01, 2025, 04:40:24 PM
While there are no guaranteed trading strategy that will completely prevent you from losing, but there are some trading strategies that will minimize losing experience and increase chances of profiting.

One of it is by developing a well-defined trading plan. By setting your clear goals and objectives, there is higher probability that your trades will turn out successful. Also, by having emotional control and discipline when trading help a lot in order to minimize future losses. Just stick to your trading plan and don't react much to sudden factors that trigger the market.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Oshosondy on January 01, 2025, 05:01:00 PM
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.
What makes you think trading mentor is important? Are you a trading mentor? Or trading mentor taught you and you are very good in trading?

Trading mentor can lead to scam. Newbie traders are new and they do not know anything about trading at all, so someone that is a loser can be their mentor and teach them how to lose money.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Hamza2424 on January 01, 2025, 06:23:14 PM
Hmm, Good piece of advice, but in my view you cant be profitable in any strategy or by using any tip if you are not good at compounding and Risk management. Some people just ignore it as they know what Stop loss is and how and when to execute the trade, but risk management is the game changer in my view.

Imagine you are using a 2:2 trading setup, believe me the chances of being successful here are too narrow you need to know that n order to be portable you need to win in 1/2+1 trades and the profit won't be called as profit haha as 2% wth is that.

Now if you are good with your skills to manage risk at 4:2 now this is a big deal, some people will realize it now just learn a bit about it then put it in execution with your portfolio, and you'll know how critical this factor is, with that ratio management you need to focus on how much trades your portfolio allow you to take per day.

For Alts be very careful as OP said they sucks.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Alphakilo on January 01, 2025, 08:36:28 PM
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.
If mentorship works for you, do it. If it doesn't then look for what works for you. Other things can include, reading books, watching a YouTube video, doing a trading course, attending meetups for traders. You could do one or two or more. They don't guard against losses they help minimize it. The lessons, strategies, and other skills you you'll learn are going to pay off.

The last step lies with the trader to decide to learn fast whichever method or methods he chooses.To be profitable as a trader should be the aim and any way to do it should be leaned. Sometimes, all of these learnings are free as they take place in a non formal or structured environment.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 01, 2025, 08:43:02 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

I have seen some traders all because of developing interest in making a living from trading, they invested their fund in it and still couldn't achieve their goal because trading could be unpredictable as well as having some level of risk which we may not be able to afford coping with when they happened.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

We do try enough in giving some pieces of advise on traders here, but how many of them were ready and willing to learn, apply the change and make things work for them, what they don't know is in their failure in realizing the actual path needed to making it right in what they are doing, and most don't even give attention to details, some don't even read to learn or get informed on the necessary things about trading, yet hey expect a perfect result while trading.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: BitMaxz on January 01, 2025, 11:37:19 PM
At least don't forget the fees the big amount you use in trading, the big fee it will deduct from your capital. So only trade with quality trades that have a high probability.
Also, if you are trading futures, do not leave your position open without a stop-loss, or better yet, watch or close it before living on the PC because, in my experience, it always ends up hitting the stop-loss or, when I forgot to put a stop-loss, I lost a lot of money and ended up hitting liquidation.

The last thing is to always check the bigger picture from daily chart until you zoom it to 15, 5, 3, and 1 minute chart; it should give you some patterns and let you know easily what is the current trend of the day that is the start and wait for a signal and confirmation while it builds up a pattern. If it breaks out from outside the pattern, that should be a good entry point, but always check for confirmation so that we know if the position has high probability.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: tabas on January 01, 2025, 11:43:58 PM
And if trading doesn't work for you even if you've been equipped with various strategies, knowledge and tips, you have to give up because that's not the only option that we have here. Instead, do some reconsideration of your strategies and maybe trading or the actual day trading isn't for you. We can be holders and investors that pretty much work for the majority of us here. You don't have to do some daily trades if that doesn't work but this choice is working for me and I have proven it to be more effective than chasing the markets.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: JeffBrad12 on January 02, 2025, 02:19:16 AM
I find it easier to profit in trading when I trade on pretty stable market where most of the coin price action are just creating a channel.

whenever there's potential event that could shake the market I just close all my position and call it a day, right now i'm making pretty good profit by just riding the momentary accumulation that BTC is having, literally price just bounced back from $92k to $95k few times already and if you trade on leverage you're already making some good profit.

I think this one is also the most important thing to keep making money, that is to wait for the right moment. trading doesn't mean we should trade 7x24, sometime it's good to take a week or month off to wait the dust to settle.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: goldkingcoiner on January 02, 2025, 02:52:07 AM
The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.

I learned how to trade by myself and I can tell you I lost a lot of money going down that rocky road. A tutor would have saved me so much money and my nerves. But the question is how do you find a tutor?

The only ones who claim to teach trading are fake influencers and scammers with telegram groups. There is no legit way to tell apart the real traders from the fakers.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Oshosondy on January 02, 2025, 02:57:10 AM
The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.

I learned how to trade by myself and I can tell you I lost a lot of money going down that rocky road. A tutor would have saved me so much money and my nerves. But the question is how do you find a tutor?

The only ones who claim to teach trading are fake influencers and scammers with telegram groups. There is no legit way to tell apart the real traders from the fakers.
You get it right. The best to me is to still learn trading from yourself. Even with tutor, a newbie trader can still be greedy and make mistakes and lose money. It is just that many of us learn about trading risk management but we decided not to follow it. I also did not follow risk management when I was a newbie and this is one of the most important topic in trading for newbie traders to be able to manage their risks.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Popkon6 on January 02, 2025, 04:15:56 AM
All the things you mentioned here are correct, but those who mainly face losses are mainly greedy, greedy for extra income, and face losses at the last minute. Those who are trading and want to do it in the future will gain more experience if they learn these things and it will help them become more successful traders in the future.
However, I believe in making money by trading Bitcoin but I prefer to stay away from Altcoins the most. However, if you want to earn money, you must be patient, patience is the only thing that can take any person to the top of success.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 02, 2025, 05:53:49 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.
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You have a good point here, many may not fully understand this, but I do, it's better you keep your widow's mite amount with you rather than lose it again in the name of looking for a passive income. If some people do a proper calculation of the money they've lost to trading in the 10 years, that might have been enough to build a mini estate in their country, should they continue that way? I guess not, 10 years is a long year and if the trader could not get it right for that long, what will now make the difference after a decade? Such might try a different thing to earn from the market, investment of other schemes are there, trading is not a must.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: maydna on January 02, 2025, 09:37:00 AM
All of your suggestion is the best and really helpful for all traders. Satisfying with the small profit will need to be practice because not many traders can do that while they feels they can make a bigger profit. They forget that they don't have to chase the bigger profit in one day but they can repeat to make small profit continuously especially if they can have a skills to analyze the market.

They can use altcoin if they want but as you say, it is better to be careful of altcoins and needs to analyze deeper before they choose the altcoins. With so many altcoins in the market, they must analyze one by one to find the right altcoins. So that will not be an easy works to do.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: dunfida on January 02, 2025, 10:17:07 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
1. This is why its important that you should really know on what you are really that indeed knowing on what kind of trading path you would really be taking on which you are the ones will really be able to find it out once you do test out on which one fits for you.
2. Make yourself that sustainable and making the risks to be going minimal as you do go ahead. Just be sure that risks management will really be that intact.
3. Using up martingale on trading? This could be done via doing DCA when you do lose up a position or bought on the peak but it will be that still depends on how well you do make out such execution in regarding your entries and with your exits.
4. Not at all, if you do just simply find some low cap or some hidden gems then you will be able to make yourself rich and come to look at on meme coins too on which these are trash coins but there are still those who do trade that becomes millionaires and this what makes that having that huge interest when it comes on trading up meme coins in decentralized exchangers.

Losing is inevitable on which this will really be that definitely be that needed up for you to taking it lessen as much as you could because if you cant be able to do such thing then it will really be that resulting a non progressive condition in towards into your trading career. Always adapt on whatever experiences that you do able to ecounter and act accordingly on which you do seem that it will be that giving out that benefits or positivity in long term.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: OcTradism on January 02, 2025, 11:27:30 AM
1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
Trading is hard and risky so if you trade more, you have bigger risk for more losses. Day trading is very active trading and potentiality of more losses from your active trades.

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2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
It's good but not enough. Your capital is most important and you must protect it at all cost. If you have big or small profit, it's good, but it's not bad if you exit your trading position with a draw. Additionally, to avoid big loss, you can exit your position with small loss if you feel things are not going good.

Use stop loss, stop limit order to control risk and avoid big loss.

One of the Best Weapons in Trading (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173189.0)


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: slaman29 on January 02, 2025, 11:41:38 AM
Hey @Oshohondy I see you getting more and more active in this trading place ;) Great!

I personally like to warn people even more than you. Its not just that most people lose money, but to also show the stats on solid research. Everywhere you look online you can find stats of 70-80% of people losing money. And guess what, if you wait another year on the same group of traders, I guarantee you that some in profit will start losing.

Long-term, the figure is closer to 90% or more, you always start trading as a loser, its a mountain to climb to gain profit.

Trading is not for 99% of people. Remember that.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Zoomic on January 02, 2025, 11:59:38 AM
Your advice are very valid OP. However, there are actually no universal tips for trading that works for every trader. A trader might follow and practice all you've said and still end up not being profitable. Others too might do things differently and still be profitable. In all, every trader should practice effective risk management irrespective of the strategy he is using and not just over trade or act out for impulse just to make huge profits from trading, this is one major reason most traders fail.

Just like @slaman29 has said, trading is not for everyone. I have few friends who stopped trading because it was having some negative effects on their emotions, making them take decisions they shouldn't be taking. If a trader finds himself in such a situation, he should understand that he needs to take a break for the sake of his mental health, because not everyone would make it through trading.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 02, 2025, 05:34:28 PM
You are right mate, all the point you have mentioned are absolutely correct, I will comment on number 2. The problem that some traders have is that they want to make a huge amount of profit and that is why they end up losing even their capital and the small amount they have managed to earn. I was listening to a trader on one podcast and the man said that he has lost thousands of dollars in trading but after he learned to accept the fact that little profit like 2% can be compounded to huge amount over a long time, that was how his trading lifestyle changed and instead of him wanting to make 20% or 50% and more from the market everyday, that he was just going for 2% daily, although he had a large sum of money invested.



Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: justdimin on January 02, 2025, 06:26:55 PM
Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
If you are leaving out altcoins for your trading in crypto space, then you will have only one option which is trading bitcoin against fiats or stablecoins. Basically I am not a fan of trading bitcoin because bitcoin belongs into investment category in my books and I just always try to make use of trading to grab more bitcoins. It means I use only altcoins for my trading and that too only for trading them against bitcoins. Also, my trading will last for weeks to months because I am not catching altcoins by reading charts but by observing cyclic nature of coins.

In my opinion, instead of DCA for bitcoin, we may heavy buy at dips. I mean probably, we may go for DCA with bitcoins in bullish market but definitely not in bearish trend. When bitcoin market cycle is highly predictable, I believe we can buy more at trend change point rather than doing DCA.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: SuperBitMan on January 02, 2025, 06:35:32 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

Trading is very difficult that is why you see people losing money every day, and the things you highlighted are really the cause of those loses just like you said, however no matter how careful you are in trading you will still lose money but if your wins are more than your losses then you are still on the right track but if your lose is more than your wins then there's a problem you need to stop or change strategy. They say experience is the best teacher that's true and when it comes to trading experience is one key thing that helps you win more than you lose, I have a friend that is into trading the first time he started to trade on his own he was losing a lot of money to the extended he wanted to give up but his boss told him to keep trading now he is winning more than his losing and what made him that good is experience.
All this point you just highlighted are good point but a newbie into trading may not understand for example you said people should be careful with how they trade with altcoins newbie into trading may not understand and may think you are not right but when they start trading they will know that truly they need to be very careful with altcoins.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: retreat on January 02, 2025, 07:33:38 PM
Losses are something that a trader cannot avoid, but traders can minimize the amount of their losses if they trade properly, manage risk, and choose the right trading instruments. If traders are able to do things like that, then the amount of their losses may be reduced and their profit potential can be maximized even more.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: cute nmp on January 02, 2025, 07:36:12 PM
The Two go hand in hand there cant be trading without lost no matter how good the trader is that is why it is a good thing to have a good risk reward in your trading plan so that it will be profitable no matter what happens .


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Zaguru12 on January 02, 2025, 07:36:43 PM
Hmm, Good piece of advice, but in my view you cant be profitable in any strategy or by using any tip if you are not good at compounding and Risk management. Some people just ignore it as they know what Stop loss is and how and when to execute the trade, but risk management is the game changer in my view.

Imagine you are using a 2:2 trading setup, believe me the chances of being successful here are too narrow you need to know that n order to be portable you need to win in 1/2+1 trades and the profit won't be called as profit haha as 2% wth is that.


I strongly agree with you, I personally use to advice traders that there best bet in been profitable is to have a very good risk management and to strictly adhere to the risk management, it is this lack of strict adherence that make many people to lose all there funds in a one trade after been profitable in many others. Take for example someone who has a capital of $1k and only risks $100 in each trade will need like 10 straight losses before they get liquidated, and personally I doubt this happen.

As for the types of trades to take I will personally say high priority trades are traders with 1:3 plus anything below this isn’t something I prefer to trade. But for example trading 1:2 also will most definitely take your liquidation price higher. Imagine hitting two stop losses and one take profit with a 1:3 trade you will still be in profit.

What makes you think trading mentor is important? Are you a trading mentor? Or trading mentor taught you and you are very good in trading?

Trading mentor can lead to scam. Newbie traders are new and they do not know anything about trading at all, so someone that is a loser can be their mentor and teach them how to lose money.

Nothing is bad in actually seeking mentorship but seriously the way mentorships are been run this days isn’t worth. A good mentor can be your forever guide to success in trading as you will easily get to learn things faster with someone guiding you from experience but this mentor’s today just set up academies to milk their mentees and end up impacting nothing other than basics that can be learned on YouTube. Also mentees also focus on their mentors life style and most of them get this bad narrative that they can easily make it after the mentorship class which is why many give up when things don’t go there way


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Japinat on January 02, 2025, 08:20:26 PM
The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.
Right. While trading can be tough and hard, and can be very challenging, but having a professional trading mentor is definitely worth the price to be paid. It's not just the skills and strategies that are keys to successful trading, but the positive mentality and attitudes matter the most. So if you have a good and reliable mentor, it will be an edge having mentored and that you are close to becoming successful trader in the future.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: beerlover on January 02, 2025, 08:28:23 PM
While it's normal to lose money while trading, we should be careful about it as well, I do not think that we are going to get anything crazy out of this period, so we need to be careful. If you trade and lose, that's fine, but if you keep trading and keep losing forever, then it is not good and you are doing something wrong.

For someone to do better, you need to be able to do better and I believe that even if you suck at the start, and even if you are still not great and making huge profits after a while, as long as you are better than how you started that would be good. That is why it's important to learn how to get better, and I do not think that we are going to end up with anything crazy, it just doesn't feel that way.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Jody.Drummer on January 04, 2025, 02:18:33 PM
While it's normal to lose money while trading, we should be careful about it as well, I do not think that we are going to get anything crazy out of this period, so we need to be careful. If you trade and lose, that's fine, but if you keep trading and keep losing forever, then it is not good and you are doing something wrong.

For someone to do better, you need to be able to do better and I believe that even if you suck at the start, and even if you are still not great and making huge profits after a while, as long as you are better than how you started that would be good. That is why it's important to learn how to get better, and I do not think that we are going to end up with anything crazy, it just doesn't feel that way.
I totally understand the point you made and it does need to be considered. Trading and losses will always go hand in hand, including profits. Experiencing losses is normal, but if you keep losing in trading then there is a problem that needs to be fixed, I agree with that.
Apart from that you are also right, I think we are all lousy people at first, when we first entered trading. However, as time goes by, our knowledge and skills increase, plus the invaluable experience will be very helpful.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: bettercrypto on January 04, 2025, 04:19:12 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

Thanks for all of this tips in which you had given on this topic op, I will take all this on my date anyway. Then it is also true that it is not easy to earn money in this era, everything really needs to be worked hard and we must also be strategic if we want to get a profit.

And we must also not be greedy so that we do not become like others who only ended up with bad results in the end. You know in trading when others suddenly pump the coins they bought,
they think that they will still raise it but suddenly there will be a massive dump in the end.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: milewilda on January 05, 2025, 03:19:30 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

Thanks for all of this tips in which you had given on this topic op, I will take all this on my date anyway. Then it is also true that it is not easy to earn money in this era, everything really needs to be worked hard and we must also be strategic if we want to get a profit.

And we must also not be greedy so that we do not become like others who only ended up with bad results in the end. You know in trading when others suddenly pump the coins they bought,
they think that they will still raise it but suddenly there will be a massive dump in the end.
Greed is something which is really that a part of human being on which it will really be that something that needs to be controlled and moderate specially that we are that dealing up with this space. You will really be that considering that tons of situations on which this might sparked out that kind of impulsive behavior on which it will be leading into more disastrous actions on which you shouldnt have done that. Self control is what a must on here but this is a word on which it is really that something easy to say but on the moment that you are on such situation then it will really be that too hard for you to make up such control on the time that you are already been boggled up with negative conditions on which you will be that not able to think up well on whats going on. Self awareness and use up your own sense on whats happening and adjust accordingly when it comes into this aspect. All you do need to do is to sustain and learn up from those mistakes because losing is never been that be removed because market is really that totally unpredictable and there's no way that you can be able to remove the possibility but rather its something that you will be needing up to lessen up the risks because it will be that leading into that successful career on which of course everything will be basing up on how well you do make out decisions on what you are currently dealing on with.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Barikui1 on January 05, 2025, 07:13:00 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

All the point you made here are actually spot on to be honest here, but I want to just add to what you have already said, because I know for a fact that you can still be losing money in trading if you follow only what is written down in your write up.
And the few I want to add are;

* Try to learn when not to trade: this one is the most complicated skill in trading because you need to know what you are doing before you can utilize this skill.
When looking at the chart, their are some particular trading set up you should be looking out for, if they aren't in sight, it's best to stay off and wait.
It's best your margin is intact than to trade what you aren't sure off.

* Emotions: we should not forget that emotions destroy all your trading knowledge and skills, because you will start doubting yourself and your analysis, and it's either you cut a winning trade too early, or you might cut a trade at a loss which will eventually reverse back to your direction, because you were too emotional to trust your analysis and wait for the final outcome of the trade, so emotional control is very much key, if you want to succeed in trading.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: pawanjain on January 05, 2025, 01:14:03 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

I really liked your first statement because just today, I was just having a thought that I should start using my crypto for trading to accumulate increase my crypto stack.
You know, it feel terrible seeing other people making huge load of money in altcoins saying altcoins are going 10x or say 100x whereas bitcoin is just going for 2x - 3x.
At the same time, I know that not all of them are making huge money in alts and it would be just a small amount of people yet it gives us a feeling of uneasiness.
Makes us wonder why not we try trading and earn more money but as you say, many people lose money instead.
So for people like me, who wants to save their capital at any cost, I believe, holding is a far better option instead.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: tvplus006 on January 05, 2025, 01:49:19 PM
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.

Mentoring is not a trading strategy, but another chance to gain the necessary knowledge for trading. But the problem with choosing a mentor is that instead of an experienced trader, you mistakenly choose a scammer who has superficial knowledge, which will undoubtedly lead to the loss of your deposit.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Zanab247 on January 05, 2025, 02:29:16 PM
I believe many new traders will learn from those strategies you just mentioned here op, because I have seen many new traders earning little profits from their trading, but they are not satisfy at that moment than to continue chancing the big profits  that made them to end up in losing all the profits they have made, which is a good lesson new traders must learn from and make a positive change. When you are going to trading as a new trader, make sure you wear the garment of patience which it will help you not to rush whenever you are trading your crypto in the market, and it will allow you to earn the profit that will satisfy you.

As a trader, don't invest what you can't afford to lose in trading because there will surely going to be some mistakes that will make you to lose some money in your trading, but don't let it be the end of your trading, because there are still other opportunities that will make you to recover all your losses in the future.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Webetcoins on January 05, 2025, 02:45:31 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
Thanks for all of this tips in which you had given on this topic op, I will take all this on my date anyway. Then it is also true that it is not easy to earn money in this era, everything really needs to be worked hard and we must also be strategic if we want to get a profit.

And we must also not be greedy so that we do not become like others who only ended up with bad results in the end. You know in trading when others suddenly pump the coins they bought,
they think that they will still raise it but suddenly there will be a massive dump in the end.
Sometime while I read things about trading with consequences it's always brought something wired in my mind as we have trading specially crypto trading evil weapon even we have nothing wrong all we also have many things which bring positive and better results as well so just keeping checking and doing things which are important for trading give some pleasure and also profit, but we need strong strategy and things before jumping into this which increase our knowledge and depth about trading.

We all know about greediness how kills but still it's nature of human as we have to go for few things which are giving us better profit in short period we can't leave this out from us even with all preparation sometime we have not required results because any rumour or news can erupt trading targets, and we can face bad result.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Mpamaegbu on January 05, 2025, 03:19:53 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing.
People will continue to lose trades as much as they want to rely on income from trading, thereby making it a do-or-die affair where they think they've to always be in trades. We don't have to always be in trades to qualify as traders. Even, not trading is also trading. To succeed at trading, one has to get a side hustle that will pay one's bills at the beginning so one doesn't have to pressure oneself trading.

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1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
You're right. Trading demands patience. Traders with "short fuse" or itchy fingers hardly survive trading.

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2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
One can also let winning trades run thereby increasing profit instead of cutting it short. What matters here is for one to understand one's trading strategy, trust it and allow it run when it's winning.

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3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
Whether averaging out or martingale, what truly matters is Money Management (MM). One has to be careful with both techniques. What if a trader doesn't have funds elsewhere, where are they going to get funds to pump in to save their losing trades? The best thing is to use SL and cut the loss short.

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4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
No coin is easy to trade, especially on Futures. They all bear the same risk when you're not able to determine the trend before entering the market. Those who longed Bitcoin at $108k will understand what I'm saying better.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Awaklara on January 05, 2025, 05:58:58 PM

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
I had a problem at the beginning of my trading with being too enthusiastic in trading. Some success in getting small profits made me excited, it triggered me to trade every day with the reason of increasing my trading experience.
Some trades were successful, but the more trades I found a phase where I was in a hurry to open positions on some trades. I was caught in a situation of several consecutive losses and finally, I decided to stop trading temporarily.
Now I don't trade every day, but I still trade even though not in large amounts.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Asiska02 on January 05, 2025, 07:10:41 PM
The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.

The basics of trading cannot be overemphasized, having the right mentorship into the market is the one of the best way to reduce the risk of losing money in trading. It is not that easy but one need to understand that continuous learning even after mentorship is the best way to stand at a very good chance of making it in trading sooner. The concept of trading requires patience and those that are not ready to exercise patience may leave trading after been face with big losses they can’t contain. Continous learning is the key and it makes your journey easier and faster to achieve success.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: LogitechMouse on January 06, 2025, 06:37:48 AM
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.
What makes you think trading mentor is important? Are you a trading mentor? Or trading mentor taught you and you are very good in trading?

Trading mentor can lead to scam. Newbie traders are new and they do not know anything about trading at all, so someone that is a loser can be their mentor and teach them how to lose money.
I also don't believe in a trading mentor as well because what I believe is that you can learn anything all by yourself. Yes, it will take you so much time and money along the way, but that would be way better as you will learn through your own mistakes, and experiences, and you will make better decisions from there. You will make some adjustments on your strategy based off your own experiences. I've made several trading mistakes in the past, and I might not be profitable currently, but still, I learn from all of them, and making better decisions now than that of a few months ago.

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Re: Trading and losing
OP has shared some good tips as well but might as well share some that I had read online yesterday.
1. Don't take a trade when you're in the middle of something or there's some distractions around you. That's the easiest way to lose your money.
2. Sticking to ONE strategy is always better and have a better chance of making profit. Don't add unnecessary indicators on it.
3. Always set a stop loss.
4. Aim for only taking low number of trades per day. The more you take, the more you "chase" therefore, the higher the chances you lose.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Cryptmuster on January 06, 2025, 07:21:10 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

If a trader knows how to make money, it doesn't matter what asset he trades, altcoins are just as good for trading as bitcoin, the most important thing is to understand what you are doing, charts, but everything matters. Day trading is difficult, a more optimal option is medium-term trading and it is important that there is no rush. The budget also matters, and if you can trade profitably, the budget can be quite large, in this case a small profit in percentage terms will be noticeable.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: bettercrypto on January 06, 2025, 07:50:05 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

If a trader knows how to make money, it doesn't matter what asset he trades, altcoins are just as good for trading as bitcoin, the most important thing is to understand what you are doing, charts, but everything matters. Day trading is difficult, a more optimal option is medium-term trading and it is important that there is no rush. The budget also matters, and if you can trade profitably, the budget can be quite large, in this case a small profit in percentage terms will be noticeable.


I believe that day trading is not easy to do, although I also believe what you say that if you have extensive knowledge of trading strategy, you can really make a profit anytime you want to trade on any exchange.

But it should be better to always do the right timing to do trading activities, it is not necessary that we should trade every day, because you trade every day but you do not progress but if you only trade once but you get a profit, that's it for once.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 06, 2025, 09:48:44 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

If a trader knows how to make money, it doesn't matter what asset he trades, altcoins are just as good for trading as bitcoin, the most important thing is to understand what you are doing, charts, but everything matters. Day trading is difficult, a more optimal option is medium-term trading and it is important that there is no rush. The budget also matters, and if you can trade profitably, the budget can be quite large, in this case a small profit in percentage terms will be noticeable.


I believe that day trading is not easy to do, although I also believe what you say that if you have extensive knowledge of trading strategy, you can really make a profit anytime you want to trade on any exchange.

But it should be better to always do the right timing to do trading activities, it is not necessary that we should trade every day, because you trade every day but you do not progress but if you only trade once but you get a profit, that's it for once.
Never been easy in the first place and it would really be just that too wrong that you will really be assumpting that this is a skill that you can be able to learn in a short term period. Always make yourself that  get prepared on whatever the things you do able to encounter with this volatile market. Never ever being that too optimistic because trading does incur loses if you dont really know on what you are doing on which its important that you do really know on what you are really that indeed knowing.This is why at the time or moment that you do get involved on this one, then it is  really just that right that you do at least know the basics at least on how this market behaves.

If you are a person who doesnt really want or like to lose up money then trading this market isnt for you or even in other markets as well. If you wont really be that careful on what you are really that indeed doing on, then expect that loses will really be that on the line or would be piling up.  This is why you would really be needing up on taking up that  risks so that you can also earn money but dont remove into your mind about on the possibilities that you might be ending up on having problems at the moment that the market volatility hits you. So it will really be that up to you on how you would gonna be handling yourself towards this volatile space. Only a few could be able to get a hold of this market volatility and unpredictability but if you do then you do sure that you can make money with it.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: jcojci on January 06, 2025, 10:02:03 AM
Losing and profit will be part of trading but most people losing their money in trading. If they can learns more from many sources, they will have more knowledge that will help them to analyze the market. @OP shared what he know so we can learn from him and gets something behind that which can gives us more knowledge.

You can make a profit in trading only with knowledge and know how to trade with right. If you can learn for many things, your skills will improve so that will gives you more chances to make a profit. Yes, I agree that can earn a little rather than lose big will be better so that we don't have to try to chase bigger profit if the situation is not good. There will be a time for you to get bigger profit so nothing to worry about that.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on January 06, 2025, 10:43:25 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
Very good set of advice there, trading is one way to make money on daily basis, but the chances of success greatly depends on our approach and attitudes towards the market, trading is much better than gambling since the two is like driving a manual and automatic transmission vehicles.

1. Driving a manual transmission vehicle leave the driver in control of the vehicle's engine and gearbox.
2. While driving an automatic transmission vehicle takes control of the same away from the driver.

In trading, we are more in control of the outcome of our trades, onlike gambling where we completely lose this control.
Applying on the things you have mentioned here is indeed a great way to better our chances of winning trades, and one every trader, and intending traders must take serious.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Jody.Drummer on January 06, 2025, 01:36:31 PM
Losing and profit will be part of trading but most people losing their money in trading. If they can learns more from many sources, they will have more knowledge that will help them to analyze the market. @OP shared what he know so we can learn from him and gets something behind that which can gives us more knowledge.

You can make a profit in trading only with knowledge and know how to trade with right. If you can learn for many things, your skills will improve so that will gives you more chances to make a profit. Yes, I agree that can earn a little rather than lose big will be better so that we don't have to try to chase bigger profit if the situation is not good. There will be a time for you to get bigger profit so nothing to worry about that.
Some people are too greedy to be able to make big profits, even though they could be better at trading and could make a profit if they could be a little patient. I see this as one of the problems, such as someone making a loss after they make a profit, but they don't withdraw the profit because they think they want to make a bigger profit. And yes, the market is not always stable and will continue to move and in a short time the profit they made at the beginning becomes a loss that they have to bear. For me, it is better to make a small but consistent profit than to take a very big risk.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Lida93 on January 06, 2025, 03:21:48 PM
While there are no guaranteed trading strategy that will completely prevent you from losing, but there are some trading strategies that will minimize losing experience and increase chances of profiting.
Well, there are good trading strategies that works just fine in enhancing trader's chances of making success and less losses but for some personal reasons greed gets in the way causing them to lose woefully when they could have made do with the little profits already gotten with the strategy rather they'll be expecting more.

I also understand that when traders apply strategies that are better effective in producing little profits than huge profits than huge profits they're looking for then the trader could have problems with experiencing successes with their trades. Being capable to identify those strategies that gives little profits and sticking to taking those little profits can really help minimise trading losses too.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: mirakal on January 06, 2025, 03:59:13 PM
Losses are significant part of trading. If you don't experience losses, you are actually not trading. However, with losses comes out different learnings and realizations from trading. Realizing that profits are not consistent when trading, and that losses can also be minimized or lessen but not totally avoided. But as long as you do trading following the rules and doing what is right, you will never end your trades in a negative position.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: jcojci on January 07, 2025, 05:46:49 AM
Some people are too greedy to be able to make big profits, even though they could be better at trading and could make a profit if they could be a little patient. I see this as one of the problems, such as someone making a loss after they make a profit, but they don't withdraw the profit because they think they want to make a bigger profit. And yes, the market is not always stable and will continue to move and in a short time the profit they made at the beginning becomes a loss that they have to bear. For me, it is better to make a small but consistent profit than to take a very big risk.
It is normal if people become too greedy when they already win because trading can tempt anyone to keep trading including a pro traders. It is why we must be able to control ourselves in trading and not chase the profit especially if we don't see the market will moves good after we taking the profit. Many people lose their profit after they decide to keep trading because they don't look the situation that happen in the market. The market will still not stable so we must adapt with the situation and use that for our benefits.

If we have skills to analyze, that will help us to identify what happen to the market so we can decide with right. If leaving the market is the best decision for us for a while, we should do that because we can back to trade in the next hours after we know we can enter to the market.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on January 07, 2025, 08:32:54 AM
1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

Seriously, you have a great point here. These first two points are really what some traders lack in their trading journey that makes them lose money all the time. Some traders don’t want to earn little before they start trading for big money; they want to earn big in a short period of time when they start trading, which is why many of them lose money that they were supposed to lose in normal trading. If they keep their heads, they will earn. Many of them want to be rich like other traders they see out there, forgetting that those traders also start with small money before trading big. 
 
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4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

Sure. To me, I think only traders that lack knowledge and don’t really know where to put their money will trade altcoins because of how risky they are. Altcoins are very risky, although even if you want to trade altcoins, it should not be for a newbie trader. I think that should be for a professional trader who has been trading and already mastered the market; they should be the ones who trade altcoins.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 07, 2025, 01:18:08 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

If a trader knows how to make money, it doesn't matter what asset he trades, altcoins are just as good for trading as bitcoin, the most important thing is to understand what you are doing, charts, but everything matters. Day trading is difficult, a more optimal option is medium-term trading and it is important that there is no rush. The budget also matters, and if you can trade profitably, the budget can be quite large, in this case a small profit in percentage terms will be noticeable.

You have a point, any crypto asset can be traded, but at the same, there is a thing we call volatility, if we do not carefully consider it in the kind of market we choose, we can regret it. Notwithstanding, you have a point and I suggest that we should consider reducing the risks we take with our altcoins in a bid to level it up with that of Bitcoin.

For your information, Bitcoin has been my priority in the crypto market, it makes my selection little and helps me focus.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: babygun on January 07, 2025, 02:22:39 PM
Losing and profit will be part of trading but most people losing their money in trading. If they can learns more from many sources, they will have more knowledge that will help them to analyze the market. @OP shared what he know so we can learn from him and gets something behind that which can gives us more knowledge.

You can make a profit in trading only with knowledge and know how to trade with right. If you can learn for many things, your skills will improve so that will gives you more chances to make a profit. Yes, I agree that can earn a little rather than lose big will be better so that we don't have to try to chase bigger profit if the situation is not good. There will be a time for you to get bigger profit so nothing to worry about that.
Some people are too greedy to be able to make big profits, even though they could be better at trading and could make a profit if they could be a little patient. I see this as one of the problems, such as someone making a loss after they make a profit, but they don't withdraw the profit because they think they want to make a bigger profit. And yes, the market is not always stable and will continue to move and in a short time the profit they made at the beginning becomes a loss that they have to bear. For me, it is better to make a small but consistent profit than to take a very big risk.

The more you do it, the better you get at it. I have been trading and buying selling stocks/crypto since 5-6 years and made rookie mistakes. Often time, I was too greedy and thinking it would keep on going up, but the contrary happened and it ended up in a loss. I don't take it is bad to take a profit so that is one of the principles that I always have a mind to secure some profit.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Slow death on January 07, 2025, 03:10:00 PM
In my opinion, I prefer to focus on buying at the strongest supports and then wait a long time until the price hits the strongest resistance and only if it doesn't break the strongest resistance and there is some trend reversal indicator, then I sell and wait for the opportunity to touch the strongest support and not break it and have a trend reversal so I can buy. I haven't been day trading because I see it as being much riskier in this crypto market.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on January 07, 2025, 05:50:58 PM

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

Honestly, some set of traders are eager to make it quickly and that is the may reason they keeping losing continously and later end in nothing in their account and start calling crypto scam or saying trading is all about lucky.if some traders have been taken less risk like you have said by earning little profits continue, some of them should achieved some great in trading but the mindset  that they want to become like some traders they are seeing in the social media are what are encouraging some them should that hurting for bigger profits always end in lost.
 
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4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

If someone have good knowledge about trading and can do technical analysis well, trading altcoins is not bad, because it where some good traders make more profits, but if you are a investor I will not advise to have a mindset of holing altcoins for a long period of time but even you want hold just  invest very small amount of money.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Josefjix on January 07, 2025, 06:38:48 PM
What about traders that consider futures when they are inexperienced about it and fail at end just for the sake of getting fast profits, it's best you think of the better and simple category like spot trading to avoid losing a lot in crypto. Some traders fail to know that trading is a step by step procedure before you get to the top of higher profits at a little time.

It is also good to know the kind of trader you are, a long term or a short term, to help fix yourself in a corner best suit for you to avoid getting yourself ruined out of funds unexpectedly.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: justdimin on January 07, 2025, 10:55:03 PM
What about traders that consider futures when they are inexperienced about it and fail at end just for the sake of getting fast profits, it's best you think of the better and simple category like spot trading to avoid losing a lot in crypto. Some traders fail to know that trading is a step by step procedure before you get to the top of higher profits at a little time.

It is also good to know the kind of trader you are, a long term or a short term, to help fix yourself in a corner best suit for you to avoid getting yourself ruined out of funds unexpectedly.
Yes, a lot of people who are making a mistake and that is the trouble and for that reason I believe that if you know what kind of trader you are, then you are going to do better and that will not be a bad deal at all. I think if you forget what you are dealing with then you are going to see much better results without a doubt. Not all strategies end up with whatever you deal with, it is not that easy to find something that fits you perfectly, that is just not how it works.

You need to just realize that you will end up getting much worse so always figure out your own way of investing and you will do much better and that is the most important part. Always go with whatever you can do, and you will end up with a better result, that is the key here, if you can do that then you will get a much better result.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Onyeeze on January 07, 2025, 10:58:46 PM
Do you know that there is no way someone can trade accurately without making a mistake because if you don't make any mistake in Trading or if you don't experience loss in Trading that means you have not started and with you all those information you point out in this thread I think that will not to make someone who want to lose more to lose because trading is all about risk and you are ought to understand, how to do with the profit and loss so for you to be expert in Trading you must have undergo some losses during the time you trade so what we need that is important in Trading is for we to take a precaution from what we have experience before that will help us not to always experience loss when we trade


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Peanutswar on January 07, 2025, 11:21:01 PM
This 2025 people in trading must need to learn with their mistake because if still so they will carry again the same loses and mistake through out the years. With this new year and of course bull run with sideways people must be aware on the possible trend what they will trade because not all coin is ideal to watch and could be waste of time.Personally i do find differently strategy on my trade so i can test it out with different situations of the market movement. Explore new and adopt if it’s effective then execute well.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Mahanton on January 08, 2025, 12:04:29 AM
Losing and profit will be part of trading but most people losing their money in trading. If they can learns more from many sources, they will have more knowledge that will help them to analyze the market. @OP shared what he know so we can learn from him and gets something behind that which can gives us more knowledge.

You can make a profit in trading only with knowledge and know how to trade with right. If you can learn for many things, your skills will improve so that will gives you more chances to make a profit. Yes, I agree that can earn a little rather than lose big will be better so that we don't have to try to chase bigger profit if the situation is not good. There will be a time for you to get bigger profit so nothing to worry about that.
Some people are too greedy to be able to make big profits, even though they could be better at trading and could make a profit if they could be a little patient. I see this as one of the problems, such as someone making a loss after they make a profit, but they don't withdraw the profit because they think they want to make a bigger profit. And yes, the market is not always stable and will continue to move and in a short time the profit they made at the beginning becomes a loss that they have to bear. For me, it is better to make a small but consistent profit than to take a very big risk.

The more you do it, the better you get at it. I have been trading and buying selling stocks/crypto since 5-6 years and made rookie mistakes. Often time, I was too greedy and thinking it would keep on going up, but the contrary happened and it ended up in a loss. I don't take it is bad to take a profit so that is one of the principles that I always have a mind to secure some profit.
Experience would really be the key and this is something that will really be just that totally happens when it comes into this matter on which at the time that you do become that  having the longer duration on dealing up with the market then it will really be that eventually giving out that kind of probability that you could really be able to make it through. We do know that when it comes into this aspect on which there are those individuals who would be that totally quits after experiencing some few loses and there are ones who do keep on learning out of those loses or mistakes. We do know that mistakes are stepping stones on making yourself that more better as you do ahead on which this is something that a person must do on which at the moment that you wont really be that thinking up sensibly about into what you are doing then you are just that basically easily trying out to lessen up the risks on which this is the best approach to have when you do deal up with this market. You are already prepared on whats to come and you've been already anticipating on what will happen. This is why it is really that important that you do make yourself at least wary about the probability of losing on just seeing others condition too. Make yourself wary at first is important because having that too much positivity or expectation of positive outcome will be that resulting into huge disappointment when the time comes about having those failed trades and making up those loses. If you wont be that careful then you do end up on having some issues on this one.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Ricardo11 on January 08, 2025, 09:08:07 AM
Trading is a place where losses are happen, but losing in trading does not mean that you are a failure. Rather, you have to have a tendency to learn more because of each loss. A trader has to remember that he never loses, Either he win, Otherwise, he learns. Losses can happen at any time in trading, but do not be discouraged by them, see them as a new startup point. You always have to have a tendency to learn. If you are patient, learn the right strategy and work with emotions under control, the losses will one day turn into profits, and there will be much more success. You have to learn constantly, you losses? learn more and more, this is how success will come one day.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: $weetne$$ on January 08, 2025, 10:02:34 AM
There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

Only few traders are being profitable and the rest are just going in a cycle as they make money from the first trade and lose the money in the future to other trades because they are not being careful how they trade and they are not taking profits as they trade. Everything you wrote made sense and as we should not be using all our money as capital for trading so should we not be keeping all the profits that we made as capital but we should learn the habit of taking profits. As we take profits, we will always have capitals to continue to trade as we have bad trades. Losing is always going to happen when you are trading because we can not be making profits all the time therefore it is not the initial losses that matters but how we react to the losses, that is the important thing.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: sarmrakib on January 08, 2025, 12:03:23 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
You are really correct as i thought. Trading isn’t an easy way of earning where you come and exit with profit. It is so tough way of earning. I want to add one more to your list which is mostly similar with your thinking which is control our mind. If you can't control your emotions you may loose a big amount. I think this is the most reason to loose trader on trading. When they are on profit they try to increase it more and loose all of these. On the other hand when in loss try to martiangle and continuously loose the amount. So we need to control our mind to earn a good amount from trading. You need to control tour greediness it helps you to earn much. However at the end i wanna say you need to update always on the market to get success from trading.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Adams0001 on January 09, 2025, 05:40:46 PM
There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

Only few traders are being profitable and the rest are just going in a cycle as they make money from the first trade and lose the money in the future to other trades because they are not being careful how they trade and they are not taking profits as they trade. Everything you wrote made sense and as we should not be using all our money as capital for trading so should we not be keeping all the profits that we made as capital but we should learn the habit of taking profits. As we take profits, we will always have capitals to continue to trade as we have bad trades. Losing is always going to happen when you are trading because we can not be making profits all the time therefore it is not the initial losses that matters but how we react to the losses, that is the important thing.

You are right, there are only a few profitable traders since not every trader understands the approach they employ to succeed. Because without understanding what op said, he will be very difficult for you to achieve something on trading without getting it, you will end up losing anytime you try to trade, and the important thing is you should not be in haste that you want to make profit fast, you will not be balanced to learn everything because you didn't give your self time to study very well, you are just after the funds, and you are on haste to achieve your goals once, he can't be possible. So is more advisable before you can start risking your funds you should not all the roles that people follow so that you won't too lose too much your funds when you want to start. Because personally trading you most lost because you can't be winning anytime and think you won't lose even you understand everything you may probably lose because the market change.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Altryist on January 12, 2025, 03:53:54 PM

Some people are too greedy to be able to make big profits, even though they could be better at trading and could make a profit if they could be a little patient. I see this as one of the problems, such as someone making a loss after they make a profit, but they don't withdraw the profit because they think they want to make a bigger profit. And yes, the market is not always stable and will continue to move and in a short time the profit they made at the beginning becomes a loss that they have to bear. For me, it is better to make a small but consistent profit than to take a very big risk.
Haste will always hinder in trading, if you entered a deal too early, or exited too early, haste will be to blame for everything. But it seems to me that for beginners this will be inevitable, especially since it intersects with your next point where you say that even a small profit is better than a loss, in this case for a beginner this may be due to haste, when he closes a deal too early, but despite this I agree that a small profit is better than a loss.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: tvplus006 on January 12, 2025, 07:23:40 PM
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.

This is a controversial point and such a decision is comparable to a casino. Every time you average, you reduce the amount of margin on your account, which will undoubtedly bring the position closer to liquidation if the price moves in the opposite direction to your expectations.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: adultcrypto on January 12, 2025, 10:33:36 PM
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
I don't know what method you use in trading but this method does not seem right to me. Does your trading method require risking your entire capital per trade? Don't you calculate your lot size and add stop loss as well as take profits? Assuming you have $1000 in your trading account and you are usual trading perpetual can't you calculate how much of that you want to risk in the trade and then place the trade with protective stops and TP? Will you place the trade with your entire account balance and watch it burnt down to zero should the trade go against you? You response to this post will determine my next response because I want to know what you doing first before bringing what I'm doing and what I think works in terms of risk management.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Icey_stones on January 12, 2025, 10:39:02 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
Thank you for the strategic plans. This was me when I first got into trading, the adrenaline was too the roof always want to make money and when I do, want to make more (greed). Overtime I began to overcome my greed and drew out a plan also for myself. I will make sure to include yours to mine


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Chilwell on January 13, 2025, 08:53:29 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose

Many individuals are in a rush to generate profits, often resulting in significant financial losses. This eagerness to accumulate wealth is frequently driven by greed and a lack of contentment. When people are not satisfied with their current financial situation, they may become obsessed with achieving more profits. Unfortunately, this mindset can lead to a series of poor decision making, and it will result in substantial losses.

The consequences of these losses can be severe and long lasting. Not only can individuals lose their hard earned money, but they may also struggle to recover from the financial setback. In some cases, the lost funds may never be recovered. lack of knowledge can lead to impulsive decisions, driven by emotions rather than careful consideration. When some individuals experience financial losses, they may become desperate to recover their funds. In some cases, they may attempt to recoup their losses by increasing the price of goods or services. However, this strategy can backfire, leading to even greater losses. To avoid losing, it's essential for a trader to be contented with what they have. By staying calm and focused, individuals can make more informed decisions, avoiding the pitfalls of impulsive behavior.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 14, 2025, 07:19:27 AM

Some people are too greedy to be able to make big profits, even though they could be better at trading and could make a profit if they could be a little patient. I see this as one of the problems, such as someone making a loss after they make a profit, but they don't withdraw the profit because they think they want to make a bigger profit. And yes, the market is not always stable and will continue to move and in a short time the profit they made at the beginning becomes a loss that they have to bear. For me, it is better to make a small but consistent profit than to take a very big risk.
Haste will always hinder in trading, if you entered a deal too early, or exited too early, haste will be to blame for everything. But it seems to me that for beginners this will be inevitable, especially since it intersects with your next point where you say that even a small profit is better than a loss, in this case for a beginner this may be due to haste, when he closes a deal too early, but despite this I agree that a small profit is better than a loss.
Trading needs accuracy and precision, this is where analysis comes in and no one should deviate from what the analysis predicts. This is why we should ensure we are trading with the right set of systems, and by doing that, we should do nothing in haste but with proper conduct.

This does not leave anyone out of the book, both the beginner and old traders could be in the trap of trading and this starts with their imbalanced trading psychology.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Ahli38 on January 14, 2025, 11:24:46 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
Well in the end someone gave very quality advice even though it looked very simple. But the points you convey are points that I also often do in my daily trading which has been going on for years. And yeah it worked for me. The most important thing is that we understand the market, understand the risks and also understand our own financial and psychological condition when trading. That way we will know where our limits are in trading. because there are many people out there who trade beyond the limits of their own abilities. So at the beginning they can make a profit but in the end they lose. This happens because they do not set limits on their abilities for themselves. Which makes them overextend themselves to trade longer and hope to earn more. In fact, that will only make our analysis chaotic and not as good as it was at the beginning.

Using Average Down in trading is highly recommended. And always take advantage, even if it's a little, rather than waiting for the big one but in the end we are careless and lose.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Oshosondy on January 14, 2025, 01:47:46 PM
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.

This is a controversial point and such a decision is comparable to a casino. Every time you average, you reduce the amount of margin on your account, which will undoubtedly bring the position closer to liquidation if the price moves in the opposite direction to your expectations.
Averaging is a good strategy for both holders and traders. This will make traders think not to use all their money to invest or trade and prepare for the time the market will not favour them and buy more instead. I bought bitcoin at $93000 when it was falling recently, but averaging helped me to buy at $90000 again. It is better because I will not think of liquidation because I still not go more than 1x unlike martingale which can result to liquidation.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: RockBell on January 14, 2025, 02:19:31 PM
Only few traders are being profitable and the rest are just going in a cycle as they make money from the first trade and lose the money in the future to other trades because they are not being careful how they trade and they are not taking profits as they trade. Everything you wrote made sense and as we should not be using all our money as capital for trading so should we not be keeping all the profits that we made as capital but we should learn the habit of taking profits. As we take profits, we will always have capitals to continue to trade as we have bad trades. Losing is always going to happen when you are trading because we can not be making profits all the time therefore it is not the initial losses that matters but how we react to the losses, that is the important thing.

There are lot of people that don't make profit they are just trying to make people believe that they are making money which is a lie and all this is because they are over doing things so we can do to experience things our self so we can not just conclude on other people testimony so we dowel on what we see our self and this are things that we need discover personally.

Is true that there are people that make profit but is not everyone that actually makes profit and we you have knowledge on everything you do so that you won't be moved by what other people are showing it's because they know it will only work on people that don't have knowledge and this are part of the reason why they say knowledge is power and that is why it should be the first things you are suppose to be seeking to avoid any unnecessary pressure from social media. And there periods that trade will not go well for you so you don't need to worry because you have a failed trade.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: dunfida on January 14, 2025, 02:27:26 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
You are really correct as i thought. Trading isn’t an easy way of earning where you come and exit with profit. It is so tough way of earning. I want to add one more to your list which is mostly similar with your thinking which is control our mind. If you can't control your emotions you may loose a big amount. I think this is the most reason to loose trader on trading. When they are on profit they try to increase it more and loose all of these. On the other hand when in loss try to martiangle and continuously loose the amount. So we need to control our mind to earn a good amount from trading. You need to control tour greediness it helps you to earn much. However at the end i wanna say you need to update always on the market to get success from trading.
Its never been that recommended that you do make trading to be your financial problem solution because getting this skill isnt something that you will be that able to learn in a short period of time. If you dont have job and you do have tons of responsibilities then it will really be that too risky when you do have this kind of approach. It is really that needs up that sufficient time and effort on where you will be able to learn and trying out to learn it on a faster way will really be that leading into disaster and this is why its recommended that you should be having that consideration when it comes into this aspect so that you wont be ending up on doing this and ending up on tons of loses.

Trading does involved loses on which this isnt really just that talk about winning or making money on which this is something that you do really need up to know in the first place so that you will really be wary on what are the things that you do need up to consider so you wont be having that disappointment and desperation.  Trading does need up that skill on which you cant be able to handle out market volatility because on the moment that you dont have that sufficient skill then that will incur tons of loses then its important that you do need up to learn or else then you will be not able to survive this volatile market. Accept loses if you dont really want to have ending up with that gambler like kind of mindset.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: tvplus006 on January 14, 2025, 08:46:43 PM
This is a controversial point and such a decision is comparable to a casino. Every time you average, you reduce the amount of margin on your account, which will undoubtedly bring the position closer to liquidation if the price moves in the opposite direction to your expectations.
Averaging is a good strategy for both holders and traders. This will make traders think not to use all their money to invest or trade and prepare for the time the market will not favour them and buy more instead. I bought bitcoin at $93000 when it was falling recently, but averaging helped me to buy at $90000 again. It is better because I will not think of liquidation because I still not go more than 1x unlike martingale which can result to liquidation.

That's why I called this a casino strategy, as everything will depend on whether the coin continues to fall and your position is liquidated or you get an even bigger loss, but of course the price can also turn and you will get a good average coin price and, accordingly, a bigger profit.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Issa56 on January 15, 2025, 09:48:47 PM
There are lot of people that don't make profit they are just trying to make people believe that they are making money which is a lie and all this is because they are over doing things so we can do to experience things our self so we can not just conclude on other people testimony so we dowel on what we see our self and this are things that we need discover personally.
Just few traders are really making money from trading, most traders are just claiming they are traders, but the amount they are losing is more than what they are making, and that’s really wrong. If you are a trader, I know there will definitely be loss, but we should make sure our profit is just more than our loss, and that’s the only way to identify a real trader.

I do see lots of people claiming they are professional traders, and if you want to be receiving signals from them, then you will have to join their group, and most of them do request for money before you will be added to the group. Most of those people are not really making money from trading, and they believe they will be able to make money from people joining the group, that’s why you will notice that most of those signal groups are fake, people creating it are just doing it for their own selfish interest, not really to help people.

Most people that make money from trading won’t really come on social media to announce it, also, they won’t create group and be forcing people to join the group, most of them give signals for free and won’t even promote their group. Any paid trading signal group being promoted is definitely going to be a scam group.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: AVE5 on January 16, 2025, 05:31:18 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

You talked well Op but let it be known that no matter how we try to boycott lost, we'd still get caught somedays but with the practices of your applications, it'd safe traders to minimize their losses while profits can gradually fell those leakages.
It's really a lead to lost if we're so desperate to venture into trading because of the market news without making finding or no confident knowledge acquired about it just as mentioned especially the highily volatile Meme and the Alt coins.
Also greedy can set up a trap to total lost if opportuned to sell and  make counts of profits but aimed to see the bottom lines of the market of selling at a higher or highest prices all just to make huge profits.
Such is tantamount to cripple ones assets or taking you back home empty handed.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Webetcoins on January 16, 2025, 12:46:52 PM
There are lot of people that don't make profit they are just trying to make people believe that they are making money which is a lie and all this is because they are over doing things so we can do to experience things our self so we can not just conclude on other people testimony so we dowel on what we see our self and this are things that we need discover personally.

Is true that there are people that make profit but is not everyone that actually makes profit and we you have knowledge on everything you do so that you won't be moved by what other people are showing it's because they know it will only work on people that don't have knowledge and this are part of the reason why they say knowledge is power and that is why it should be the first things you are suppose to be seeking to avoid any unnecessary pressure from social media. And there periods that trade will not go well for you so you don't need to worry because you have a failed trade.
We have to understand one bitter truth trading or crypto trading mostly works on hype or rumors with mostly peoples are showing they are doing good, and they are having luxurious things because of this trading but in reality, they are having nothing even things are getting worst for them day by day.

Newbies never check and jump in this ocean where chances are minimum for survival, but they never know or never try to understand but after losing their money they understand things have never been like these trading is surely not easy for everyone while we have to go for many factors before having this, but another problem is coming from social media which is creating momentum. No one can make profit consistently while loses are also always on spot we have to stay calm while things are going our emotions are also always important while we are in trading.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Strongkored on January 16, 2025, 12:49:18 PM
1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose

4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

Points number 2 and 4 are very much in line with what I experienced. At that time, I was very enthusiastic about trading in altcoins and there was a feeling of annoyance when I only got a little profit so I started to increase the percentage of profit I wanted to get, and without being able to refuse the market started to move in the opposite direction, the stupid thing was choosing to hold rather than doing a stoploss, and slowly but surely the assets continued to fall and were difficult to save because altcoins when they have fallen in bearish times will be very deep so that it only becomes a coin parked in the wallet.

2025 is looking to start day trading again, but will only trade Bitcoin or high volume altcoins on major exchanges and only on spot trades, as futures trades are something I don't want to touch at all.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: SOKO-DEKE on January 16, 2025, 04:31:00 PM

There are lot of people that don't make profit they are just trying to make people believe that they are making money which is a lie and all this is because they are over doing things so we can do to experience things our self so we can not just conclude on other people testimony so we dowel on what we see our self and this are things that we need discover personally.

Yes, it is only a few that are really making money from trading. Many, in one way or another, claim they are making money from trading, but they are just covering up the real sources of their income. Likewise, some of the money they make might come from trading, but they engage in it mainly to gain more financial attention. They set up ways to profit by using people, telling them they will teach them to become good traders like themselves. However, the logic is just to make money from these people, as they will ask them to pay a certain amount before they can attend their classes. They also promise to send signals.

Some traders who are genuinely making money don’t always have the time to come to social media and advertise themselves for online coaching classes. They are usually busy doing their technical analysis always, and I believe they simply don’t have that kind of time.



Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Lanatsa on January 17, 2025, 03:24:21 PM

There are lot of people that don't make profit they are just trying to make people believe that they are making money which is a lie and all this is because they are over doing things so we can do to experience things our self so we can not just conclude on other people testimony so we dowel on what we see our self and this are things that we need discover personally.

Yes, it is only a few that are really making money from trading. Many, in one way or another, claim they are making money from trading, but they are just covering up the real sources of their income. Likewise, some of the money they make might come from trading, but they engage in it mainly to gain more financial attention. They set up ways to profit by using people, telling them they will teach them to become good traders like themselves. However, the logic is just to make money from these people, as they will ask them to pay a certain amount before they can attend their classes. They also promise to send signals.

Some traders who are genuinely making money don’t always have the time to come to social media and advertise themselves for online coaching classes. They are usually busy doing their technical analysis always, and I believe they simply don’t have that kind of time.


Only a few will really be able to make money with trading, this is a skill that you cant be able to get a good grasps in a short span of time. So it will really be that up to you on how you would be that handling yourself with this volatile market. We do know that when it comes into this aspect then each person will be that different when it comes into the decisions that they are making on doing trading. Losing is part of this market because we do know that that price movement is never been that predictable and if you are that impulsive when it comes to price movements then its really that depending on how you will act accordingly. Its important that you do know on how to limit yourself when it comes to money.

If you are someone who doesnt really like to lose money then trading isnt really that for you. On the moment that you will be that testing out this market then get prepared into the situation that you are might be able to face on. There are really those people who are anticipating too much about trading results on which they are really that confident into their skills on which they do believe that they can make money easily until that market volatility hits you hard then this is where realizations will really be happening. Learnings are normal on which at the time that you do know or having experiences then you will be making out some adjustments.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: fullhdpixel on January 17, 2025, 04:06:03 PM
Only few traders are being profitable and the rest are just going in a cycle as they make money from the first trade and lose the money in the future to other trades because they are not being careful how they trade and they are not taking profits as they trade. Everything you wrote made sense and as we should not be using all our money as capital for trading so should we not be keeping all the profits that we made as capital but we should learn the habit of taking profits. As we take profits, we will always have capitals to continue to trade as we have bad trades. Losing is always going to happen when you are trading because we can not be making profits all the time therefore it is not the initial losses that matters but how we react to the losses, that is the important thing.
The reason why only a few people stay profitable in trading is because others overdo it. If you have already made some profit, you don't need to be in a hurry to get more and make more trades within a short timeframe because that increases the chances of you making mistakes and losing money. As you said, one should be happy with the profits they have made already instead of trying to make more quickly.

Losses in trading are inevitable, and one cannot avoid them all the time, but one should at least try to make more profitable trades than loss ones so that their average net outcome is positive and they don't waste their time and money. If you are spending so much time and still not making anything, even if you are not losing, it's not worth it.

This is why it is said often said that trading is not for everyone because not everyone can manage it efficiently.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Altryist on January 17, 2025, 06:50:17 PM

The reason why only a few people stay profitable in trading is because others overdo it. If you have already made some profit, you don't need to be in a hurry to get more and make more trades within a short timeframe because that increases the chances of you making mistakes and losing money. As you said, one should be happy with the profits they have made already instead of trying to make more quickly.

Losses in trading are inevitable, and one cannot avoid them all the time, but one should at least try to make more profitable trades than loss ones so that their average net outcome is positive and they don't waste their time and money. If you are spending so much time and still not making anything, even if you are not losing, it's not worth it.

This is why it is said often said that trading is not for everyone because not everyone can manage it efficiently.
The reason is not that someone earns, but that everyone wants to get a quick result, and does not want to do anything for this, does not want to learn, think and make independent decisions. In fact, I think that there are quite a lot of successful traders in trading, by successful I do not mean that they earn millions, I mean that they can earn enough to provide themselves with everything they need.
And those who do not want to learn lose, in trading it is impossible to get a quick result, first you must study how the market works and what you need to pay attention to, only after that can you succeed.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: alastantiger on January 17, 2025, 09:14:42 PM
Some traders who are genuinely making money don’t always have the time to come to social media and advertise themselves for online coaching classes. They are usually busy doing their technical analysis always, and I believe they simply don’t have that kind of time.

Someone that's making money won't leave the money that he or she is making to come online to try to prove to others that there's money in what they're doing. They'll be busy with their work and making money, the actual profit makers are living a low profile life in other people dream house and making money. Trading comes with losses but it also have profits hence we can make the profits too as other traders are doing but to get to this stage, we don't have to neglect the importance things that's needed to be done to become a better trader. Trading isn't something that we can become good act without having to practice and have some losses but when we don't quit, we can have the lifestyle that we have always wished for before we began trading. There are some traders making money but also come online to teach others because they want to pass the knowledge to others.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: pusaka on January 19, 2025, 08:28:16 AM
Some traders who are genuinely making money don’t always have the time to come to social media and advertise themselves for online coaching classes. They are usually busy doing their technical analysis always, and I believe they simply don’t have that kind of time.

Someone that's making money won't leave the money that he or she is making to come online to try to prove to others that there's money in what they're doing. They'll be busy with their work and making money, the actual profit makers are living a low profile life in other people dream house and making money. Trading comes with losses but it also have profits hence we can make the profits too as other traders are doing but to get to this stage, we don't have to neglect the importance things that's needed to be done to become a better trader. Trading isn't something that we can become good act without having to practice and have some losses but when we don't quit, we can have the lifestyle that we have always wished for before we began trading. There are some traders making money but also come online to teach others because they want to pass the knowledge to others.
Someone who is truly an expert tends not to want to appear in public to make a validation that they are a very expert trader. While those who appear in public I myself am not so sure that they are truly expert traders, not all of them, but I am sure some of them are just taking advantage of the situation to make a profit. For example, those who finally open paid classes, I think those who are truly experts no longer need to get profit from the paid class. Indeed, in this case they argue that they are selling knowledge, but many of the members are ultimately disappointed with what is produced.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 19, 2025, 09:07:10 AM
Someone who is truly an expert tends not to want to appear in public to make a validation that they are a very expert trader.
Pretty much, successful people rarely talk about their methods. They work from the shadows and lead humble lives to make sure they dont raise suspicions.

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While those who appear in public I myself am not so sure that they are truly expert traders, not all of them, but I am sure some of them are just taking advantage of the situation to make a profit.
You can never trust someone when it comes to crypto or its analysis, you have to much of the work on your own and learn trading. Apply them and then whatever you get back is yours to keep.

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For example, those who finally open paid classes, I think those who are truly experts no longer need to get profit from the paid class.
They are no longer trading but selling courses which is a completely different thing. It is similar to writing books about getting rich when the writer is actually the one getting rich. Never pay someone to teach you something that is free in this sector.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Zanab247 on January 19, 2025, 11:52:21 AM
There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

Only few traders are being profitable and the rest are just going in a cycle as they make money from the first trade and lose the money in the future to other trades because they are not being careful how they trade and they are not taking profits as they trade. Everything you wrote made sense and as we should not be using all our money as capital for trading so should we not be keeping all the profits that we made as capital but we should learn the habit of taking profits. As we take profits, we will always have capitals to continue to trade as we have bad trades.
That is why is good to acquire the knowledge of trading, before planning to buy coins from the market because to lose is very easy in trading but to earn profit in trading is not an easy thing because you have to pay attention to your strategy and knowledge for you to be able to take a good decision. There are some new traders that will not read this trend or other trading books that related to crypto before trading because they feel decentralized trading is easy like centralized trading they are use to in their various environment.

For you not to involve in such attitude of losing what you have earn from trading, be satisfy with what you earn at the moment and it will help you not to lose all you have earn in the past from trading because the more you try to recover your losses the more you will continue to lose your money.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Botnake on January 20, 2025, 10:31:33 AM

4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
When I start trading, I choose altcoins because some people say it is highly profitable, especially new coins. And I try to follow what they say. Unfortunately, I only just lost my money while the coins I bought stuck with no update. A lesson to learn.

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There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
I'm not really good at reading the chart, but yes, I've found it very useful to make analysis. That is why I highly recommend this, not just to have a sure profit but also as necessary to have better results. 


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: freedomgo on January 20, 2025, 11:39:53 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

This is very important to learn because too much greed is a reason for an unsuccessful trading journey.

Yeah, we want to earn big, and if we have the chance, why not? But we also need to consider and evaluate the market situation before pursuing our goal. Because many traders got it wrong, usually they believe that every day is always profitable. But sad to say, not all the time do we have the favor; sometimes we lose our money as well. So I say that learning how to accept small profits helps us to prevent losing opportunities. 


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: khiholangkang on January 20, 2025, 12:59:49 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

This is very important to learn because too much greed is a reason for an unsuccessful trading journey.

Yeah, we want to earn big, and if we have the chance, why not? But we also need to consider and evaluate the market situation before pursuing our goal. Because many traders got it wrong, usually they believe that every day is always profitable. But sad to say, not all the time do we have the favor; sometimes we lose our money as well. So I say that learning how to accept small profits helps us to prevent losing opportunities. 
Yep is true, I am currently thinking that it is better to get a profit of $ 10 every day than having to make a moment with one chance to get $ 10K because it is very difficult to do in my opinion especially if our capital is below $ 1K.
At this time it is much better to get a $ 10 profit, I am doing that and just walk well from the beginning of January, it might be considered to be included in the scalping trade but if it feels it is much better and increasingly can be consistent we can raise our capital and increase the probability of profit We can get it from how to trade discipline like this.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Huliya on January 20, 2025, 02:21:00 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
The four points mentioned above are very important. If someone wants to trade well, they can do better if they keep the following points in mind.

1. Market research and market analysis are important. If you cannot examine the current market situation, sector-specific trends, technical aspects and fundamentals, it can be difficult to make the right decisions.
2. You also need to take care of proper risk management. No matter how skilled a trader you are, sometimes struggles become inevitable. However, compensation can be reduced with proper restructuring.
3. Emotions can have the greatest impact while trading. Greed, fear and anxiety can force you to trade. So you need to control your emotions. Do not succumb to fear or greed. Do not worry about the market fluctuations, trade accordingly.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Akbarkoe on January 20, 2025, 03:10:42 PM

4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
When I start trading, I choose altcoins because some people say it is highly profitable, especially new coins. And I try to follow what they say. Unfortunately, I only just lost my money while the coins I bought stuck with no update. A lesson to learn.

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There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.
I'm not really good at reading the chart, but yes, I've found it very useful to make analysis. That is why I highly recommend this, not just to have a sure profit but also as necessary to have better results. 
Altcoin is quite scary, their fluctuations are very high so it is very old in talking about the potential for up and down, that's what causes many people to lose money in Altcoin, so it is true, using a little money in Altcoin is a good choice to remain in safe trade as a trade that understands risk Crypto Market.

Reading graphics or technical analysis is also very important because not a few people who have a lot of money in this world refer to the same book to study technical analysis so that there will definitely be the same decision if they learn from the same book as a way of making decisions in certain moments at market.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: justdimin on January 21, 2025, 08:42:51 AM
Altcoin is quite scary, their fluctuations are very high so it is very old in talking about the potential for up and down, that's what causes many people to lose money in Altcoin, so it is true, using a little money in Altcoin is a good choice to remain in safe trade as a trade that understands risk Crypto Market.

Reading graphics or technical analysis is also very important because not a few people who have a lot of money in this world refer to the same book to study technical analysis so that there will definitely be the same decision if they learn from the same book as a way of making decisions in certain moments at market.
Trading is almost 80% all about reading charts and indicators, so that you would be able to know which direction it should be going. Obviously that is not always giving you what will happen, because sometimes hype and good news changes stuff, and because of that things may not be always what you see on the charts, but 80% of the time that should be the case.

Like for example if there is a good news such as trump made his own memecoin, obviously the hype on the market may not show up on the charts before that news, while it looked decent and may have a small increase, it wasn't "this" green before that, but at the end of the day trading is a tough work and you can't just base your trading on what news you will see that day, it would be a wrong move without a doubt.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: tvplus006 on January 21, 2025, 03:09:46 PM
Altcoin is quite scary, their fluctuations are very high so it is very old in talking about the potential for up and down, that's what causes many people to lose money in Altcoin, so it is true, using a little money in Altcoin is a good choice to remain in safe trade as a trade that understands risk Crypto Market...

You will not be afraid of trading altcoins if you adhere to the risk management strategy. And given the fact that there are a huge number of different altcoins, you can choose from them those that are more or less stable and do not have high volatility.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Lanatsa on January 23, 2025, 08:27:47 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

This is very important to learn because too much greed is a reason for an unsuccessful trading journey.

Yeah, we want to earn big, and if we have the chance, why not? But we also need to consider and evaluate the market situation before pursuing our goal. Because many traders got it wrong, usually they believe that every day is always profitable. But sad to say, not all the time do we have the favor; sometimes we lose our money as well. So I say that learning how to accept small profits helps us to prevent losing opportunities. 
Yep is true, I am currently thinking that it is better to get a profit of $ 10 every day than having to make a moment with one chance to get $ 10K because it is very difficult to do in my opinion especially if our capital is below $ 1K.
At this time it is much better to get a $ 10 profit, I am doing that and just walk well from the beginning of January, it might be considered to be included in the scalping trade but if it feels it is much better and increasingly can be consistent we can raise our capital and increase the probability of profit We can get it from how to trade discipline like this.
Being sustainable trader will really be your or must should have reached up that kind of trader on which you will really be needing to target on because on the moment that you do reach out this kind of state then you will definitely be that considered a sustainable trader because you can beat up those who do win up that huge money or profit in one shot. So it will really be just that better on how you could really be able to sustain yourself because it will be that useless that you do make out some 1 or 2 profitable trades in compared to those who do end up on green despite of series of loses on which this do really shows up that you can be able to make yourself that able to sustain. So it will really be just that depending into someones preference.

Trading and losing is always been that partner up because we cant be that all be winning when dealing up with trading because not all will really be that successful into this career on which at the time or moment that you will be having this kind of approach on where you are that too positive that you can make money then this is really that a huge issue for you because this isnt really that it do makes out that always on positive result on which loses will really be that still happening. On the time that you are expecting something positive but you are really that ending up on having some loses then it will be leading up into desperation.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: SamReomo on January 23, 2025, 08:42:37 PM
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
I would say that it's okay to trade alt coins but it's not okay to trade new alt coins. Most new alt coins lose so much of their value in days and the ones who invest in those alt coins might end up losing their capital, but the reputed alt coins can be safe for trading. I personally trade Bitcoin and some alt coins and so far I have made profits with both Bitcoin as well as alt coins. However, the profit that comes from alt coins is higher than that of Bitcoin in my case.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Ndabagi01 on January 24, 2025, 01:31:29 AM
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

This is an important aspect of trading that people especially newbies that are practicing risk management do neglect. It is better to earn gradually than trying to earn big and losing all of your money. In trading, the more you risk, the more you lose and vice versa. Rome was not built in a day, so you have to be patience to see yourself grow gradually as your earn little by little until you have gotten enough capital to risk more of your initial investment at hand that time.

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4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

Trading of altcoins are the focus of some people because of the high risk volatile market that it is. Those that don’t really have patience to wait consider memecoins for fast gains, having no patient to wait for the market to reach their zone. The market makes the moves sharply and they immediately get onto the trade to either give them a TP or SL which is okay by them. The risky nature of altcoin is not for beginner traders especially memecoins, so it’s important they are not traded until they’re more mastered than before.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: OcTradism on January 24, 2025, 02:50:19 AM
This is an important aspect of trading that people especially newbies that are practicing risk management do neglect. It is better to earn gradually than trying to earn big and losing all of your money. In trading, the more you risk, the more you lose and vice versa. Rome was not built in a day, so you have to be patience to see yourself grow gradually as your earn little by little until you have gotten enough capital to risk more of your initial investment at hand that time.
Trading is risky and having enough knowledge about it is not enough. Knowing how the market operates, its history, its cycle and different phases within a cycle, as well as vital order types to avoid, reduce your loss, are important firstly to defend your trading capital. If you can not protect your trading capital, you will not be able to get profit from trading.

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The market makes the moves sharply and they immediately get onto the trade to either give them a TP or SL which is okay by them. The risky nature of altcoin is not for beginner traders especially memecoins, so it’s important they are not traded until they’re more mastered than before.
With trading, using stop loss order is very important practice. It is a like a must used order, and it does not depend on whether you are trading bitcoin or altcoins.

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Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Akbarkoe on January 24, 2025, 08:25:55 AM
Altcoin is quite scary, their fluctuations are very high so it is very old in talking about the potential for up and down, that's what causes many people to lose money in Altcoin, so it is true, using a little money in Altcoin is a good choice to remain in safe trade as a trade that understands risk Crypto Market.

Reading graphics or technical analysis is also very important because not a few people who have a lot of money in this world refer to the same book to study technical analysis so that there will definitely be the same decision if they learn from the same book as a way of making decisions in certain moments at market.
Trading is almost 80% all about reading charts and indicators, so that you would be able to know which direction it should be going. Obviously that is not always giving you what will happen, because sometimes hype and good news changes stuff, and because of that things may not be always what you see on the charts, but 80% of the time that should be the case.

Like for example if there is a good news such as trump made his own memecoin, obviously the hype on the market may not show up on the charts before that news, while it looked decent and may have a small increase, it wasn't "this" green before that, but at the end of the day trading is a tough work and you can't just base your trading on what news you will see that day, it would be a wrong move without a doubt.
Yep you are right, the news is not one of them for me to trade if I only guide it, maybe I will lose more money there, there are so many factors we must see as a crypto trader who is basically a very sensitive and speculative market, we need seeing graphically, fundamentally, news sentiment and also hype some of these things are the basic indicators for analyzing the altcoin that we will trade, then Bitcoin as the mother of all market movements also needs to be analyzed too because we often see if Bitcoin falls then Altcoin is more severe down And vice versa, maybe a person's analysis method is different like you and I but we need to pay attention to anything that does not experience excessive losses and also the benefits that are sufficient for us in trade.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: nimogsm on January 24, 2025, 10:09:14 AM
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.
I would say that it's okay to trade alt coins but it's not okay to trade new alt coins. Most new alt coins lose so much of their value in days and the ones who invest in those alt coins might end up losing their capital, but the reputed alt coins can be safe for trading. I personally trade Bitcoin and some alt coins and so far I have made profits with both Bitcoin as well as alt coins. However, the profit that comes from alt coins is higher than that of Bitcoin in my case.
Altcoins that have been on the market for a long time and have a reputation, capitalization and other options are more predictable and easier to trade than those, for example, that are created on a conveyor belt on Solana. Meme tokens are a new trend and it works on the principle of pump and dump, which is more like a lottery than trading and the mistake of beginners is that they take such tokens too seriously and think that they are subject to logic, but in the case of such tokens, almost everything depends on the developer and when he decides to sell his share of tokens and collapse the market.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: qurbanshah02 on January 24, 2025, 02:03:48 PM
This is an important aspect of trading that people especially newbies that are practicing risk management do neglect. It is better to earn gradually than trying to earn big and losing all of your money. In trading, the more you risk, the more you lose and vice versa. Rome was not built in a day, so you have to be patience to see yourself grow gradually as your earn little by little until you have gotten enough capital to risk more of your initial investment at hand that time.
Trading is risky and having enough knowledge about it is not enough. Knowing how the market operates, its history, its cycle and different phases within a cycle, as well as vital order types to avoid, reduce your loss, are important firstly to defend your trading capital. If you can not protect your trading capital, you will not be able to get profit from trading.

I don't know much about it but I will talk to you as much as I can. There is no doubt that it is risky because money has to come or go and that is why it is risky.  There are many things to look at in trading, in which you have said exactly what you said because you have to take a step by looking at everything forward and backward in the market which is quite a difficult and risky step. Obviously when the money will not accumulate how will work in the market. Because sometimes there is a loss in the market there should be money in the next step to cover it.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Z_MBFM on January 24, 2025, 04:11:01 PM
The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.
Trading is all about risk. if you want to do trading you must have to take risk. and no one can guarantee he will expert and he will not loss in trading. but a trader can make profit some time but any time he can loss for market volatile. that's why patients is the key of success. when you face loss if you get panic and sell to protect more loss the you will fail. because if you buy any potential coin then it will recover again just after some days. i always advice to avoid leverage trading coz it can make you looser


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: khiholangkang on January 24, 2025, 04:14:49 PM
Yep is true, I am currently thinking that it is better to get a profit of $ 10 every day than having to make a moment with one chance to get $ 10K because it is very difficult to do in my opinion especially if our capital is below $ 1K.
At this time it is much better to get a $ 10 profit, I am doing that and just walk well from the beginning of January, it might be considered to be included in the scalping trade but if it feels it is much better and increasingly can be consistent we can raise our capital and increase the probability of profit We can get it from how to trade discipline like this.
Being sustainable trader will really be your or must should have reached up that kind of trader on which you will really be needing to target on because on the moment that you do reach out this kind of state then you will definitely be that considered a sustainable trader because you can beat up those who do win up that huge money or profit in one shot. So it will really be just that better on how you could really be able to sustain yourself because it will be that useless that you do make out some 1 or 2 profitable trades in compared to those who do end up on green despite of series of loses on which this do really shows up that you can be able to make yourself that able to sustain. So it will really be just that depending into someones preference.

Trading and losing is always been that partner up because we cant be that all be winning when dealing up with trading because not all will really be that successful into this career on which at the time or moment that you will be having this kind of approach on where you are that too positive that you can make money then this is really that a huge issue for you because this isnt really that it do makes out that always on positive result on which loses will really be that still happening. On the time that you are expecting something positive but you are really that ending up on having some loses then it will be leading up into desperation.

The mistake is that you are not sure of yourself which makes you lose the possibility in life, even if you lose or fail or lose, you must always be evaluated, confidence is very important here, because if you don't have confidence you will make money here then you will lose it, it is a psychological thing that a trader must have, like what you said losing is harmonious in trading, so is it wrong to believe that we can make money? in fact people can make money here if they really understand in doing the strategy well, this depends on a person's preference in trading, everyone has the right to be confident in their abilities, although $10 from a capital of $1k is not much but if collected slowly will be much better.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: bettercrypto on January 24, 2025, 04:22:07 PM
This is an important aspect of trading that people especially newbies that are practicing risk management do neglect. It is better to earn gradually than trying to earn big and losing all of your money. In trading, the more you risk, the more you lose and vice versa. Rome was not built in a day, so you have to be patience to see yourself grow gradually as your earn little by little until you have gotten enough capital to risk more of your initial investment at hand that time.
Trading is risky and having enough knowledge about it is not enough. Knowing how the market operates, its history, its cycle and different phases within a cycle, as well as vital order types to avoid, reduce your loss, are important firstly to defend your trading capital. If you can not protect your trading capital, you will not be able to get profit from trading.

I don't know much about it but I will talk to you as much as I can. There is no doubt that it is risky because money has to come or go and that is why it is risky.  There are many things to look at in trading, in which you have said exactly what you said because you have to take a step by looking at everything forward and backward in the market which is quite a difficult and risky step. Obviously when the money will not accumulate how will work in the market. Because sometimes there is a loss in the market there should be money in the next step to cover it.

As long as money is involved in an investment, there is definitely risk, it cannot be without risk, unless you have not spent any money, it will be considered as if there is no risk. That's why since we are talking about trading, there is definitely risk.

And when there is risk, you can lose and you can also win or get a profit. That's the reality of the concept of trading, that's why there is Buy and Sell, between here it depends on whether we can get a profit in the future or not, it's that simple for others to understand.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Victorybit1 on January 24, 2025, 07:55:46 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

If you place 25 orders in a day and end up losing 5 you are in profit, losing is part of the deal but with risk management and proper strategy development youe losses wouldn't be more than your profit. The second point you made is very important, using a small lot size wouldn't give you much in a day but you shouldn't focus on earning too big, earning 10 to 20 percent of capital everyday isn't bad way to get started. But you must understand that in order to get to this level you must first of all give in enough time to make deseraeu and seek knowledge.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: justdimin on January 24, 2025, 08:04:54 PM
As long as money is involved in an investment, there is definitely risk, it cannot be without risk, unless you have not spent any money, it will be considered as if there is no risk. That's why since we are talking about trading, there is definitely risk.

And when there is risk, you can lose and you can also win or get a profit. That's the reality of the concept of trading, that's why there is Buy and Sell, between here it depends on whether we can get a profit in the future or not, it's that simple for others to understand.
The idea of losing makes some people fear trading so much that they rather keep their money in bank interest, which is one of the rarest cases of not risking it. I mean sure if bank ends up bankrupting, then yeah you could potentially lose, but even then most of it is saved. So all in all, we have to remember that people do not like the idea of losing, I could have been a multi millionaire by now if I didn't fear, I have been in crypto for so long and I do not have much to show for it, nearly nothing.

So believe me when I say this, people are still not sure how to minimize the risk while making the most money, they desire a world where there is no way you could lose money, you will either make a huge profit, or you will take out what you invested, no downside. I know that doesn't exist and it's silly, but that's what they want, well everyone wants something great, I would rather eat like crazy and be thin, but I can't, this is just another silly desire people have like that.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: 2Pizza410000BTC on January 27, 2025, 08:42:39 PM
In fact, having experience on the trading platform is the most important thing. If you don't have experience in trading, it is very difficult and risky to make money from the trading platform. I started trading before the end of 2024. I started with $700. In a few trades, I made a profit of about $200. But again when I started trading, I was very greedy. Although I was making a profit at first, I didn't sell. Since then, the market has been dumping. So far, I have lost more than $560. I started with pnut tokens and I bought each coin at $1.19. I don't know if I will be able to recover from here.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Andrija Branislav on January 28, 2025, 02:24:40 PM
Trading is all about risk. if you want to do trading you must have to take risk. and no one can guarantee he will expert and he will not loss in trading. but a trader can make profit some time but any time he can loss for market volatile. that's why patients is the key of success. when you face loss if you get panic and sell to protect more loss the you will fail. because if you buy any potential coin then it will recover again just after some days. i always advice to avoid leverage trading coz it can make you looser

Actual profit and loss will only be obtained if we are able to read and choose which coins are fundamental without having to be afraid of missing out. If you keep trying to research repeatedly for coins that we see at first glance are good, are still young and have the potential for future growth, you should not.

I personally feel more comfortable with coins that are resilient and have a quick price return, meaning that where I trade, the daily transaction rate is fast and there is not much speculation, including from the coin owners themselves who are constantly pushing down the price, or in other words, they are also selling internally.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Baki202 on January 28, 2025, 02:57:28 PM
In fact, having experience on the trading platform is the most important thing. If you don't have experience in trading, it is very difficult and risky to make money from the trading platform. I started trading before the end of 2024. I started with $700. In a few trades, I made a profit of about $200. But again when I started trading, I was very greedy. Although I was making a profit at first, I didn't sell. Since then, the market has been dumping. So far, I have lost more than $560. I started with pnut tokens and I bought each coin at $1.19. I don't know if I will be able to recover from here.

There is no way that you want to do bitcoin that you won't lose money but how you can reduce risk and manage emotions matters a lot out of emotions you will want to revenge and try and get back exactly what you lose because this habit is usually from gamblers who so much enjoy try to get back the money they have lost and when you want to use this kind of habit then you will find it very difficult because your mind will not be at rest because the mind will be to focused on getting what is lost back and all this is because they can not control there emotions.

Greed is another factor and I think it is even better to use demo account to master the act of trading very well before you can start using your own money because with the illustrations you have given you must have lost some amount of money and it will be better to have been able to control how you feel, trading is risky and you will always get this selfish desire to want to do some certain things, when you control your feelings then that should start from the demo account so that you would have master and be able to control your emotions.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: EarnOnVictor on January 29, 2025, 12:01:50 AM
The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.
Trading is all about risk. if you want to do trading you must have to take risk. and no one can guarantee he will expert and he will not loss in trading. but a trader can make profit some time but any time he can loss for market volatile. that's why patients is the key of success. when you face loss if you get panic and sell to protect more loss the you will fail. because if you buy any potential coin then it will recover again just after some days. i always advice to avoid leverage trading coz it can make you looser
Your concluding part is a good one, but how do you take the risk you started the whole advice with without using the leverage? If you aren't doing that, then you've not started any serious risks in trading, and like you hinted, "no risk, no gain."

The advice I give in this regard is for the trader to moderate the leverage according to his capacity and not avoid it, good risk/money management is key. You do not use all the risks (leverage) permissible by your exchange, doing that is tantamount to inviting disaster.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Oshosondy on January 29, 2025, 12:20:29 AM
The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.
If you are also keen on not losing in trading this year, then maybe you should also consider getting under the tutelage of a mentor if learning important concepts on your own is a challenge. The mentorship fee will be less than the amount of money you will lose trying to trade on your own. Mentorship is no assurance of success, but it will increase your chances of becoming a successful trader if you are having problems learning on your own.
Trading is all about risk. if you want to do trading you must have to take risk. and no one can guarantee he will expert and he will not loss in trading. but a trader can make profit some time but any time he can loss for market volatile. that's why patients is the key of success. when you face loss if you get panic and sell to protect more loss the you will fail. because if you buy any potential coin then it will recover again just after some days. i always advice to avoid leverage trading coz it can make you looser
Your concluding part is a good one, but how do you take the risk you started the whole advice with without using the leverage? If you aren't doing that, then you've not started any serious risks in trading, and like you hinted, "no risk, no gain."

The advice I give in this regard is for the trader to moderate the leverage according to his capacity and not avoid it, good risk/money management is key. You do not use all the risks (leverage) permissible by your exchange, doing that is tantamount to inviting disaster.

Maybe he is referring to spot trading which is not also bad for some people. Bout I can not trade without perpetual future.

Or maybe he is talking about 1x. Some people do not know that it is still leverage. Even if you have $200 and trade with $100, that is 0.5x leverage. There must be leverage in future trading.

If he is saying people should use 1x or lower than 1x. I think it is good.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Ararbermas on January 29, 2025, 02:06:39 AM

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

 for me i believe these two factors is the main reason why some trader experience a losses and decided to quit afterwards. .

In trading it's really boring coz you need you to wait for the right timing to execute your order , but it's all worth it to be honest.  Mostly traders don't really make their thesis when it comes placing order , wherein instead they speculate only and rely on their instinct without knowing they're over trading in just an hour reason the blown their account.  PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE in trading if you don't have hat it means you're not in the right place.

And yep profits is a profit no matter how small it is just don't be greedy.  Coz indeed market sometimes is so unpredictable. .but if you keep following your rules and strat and you don't over trade nor revenge trade for sure that small profits is just temporary. .


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: martinex on January 29, 2025, 02:46:10 AM
Or maybe he is talking about 1x. Some people do not know that it is still leverage. Even if you have $200 and trade with $100, that is 0.5x leverage. There must be leverage in future trading.

If he is saying people should use 1x or lower than 1x. I think it is good.

The smaller the leverage we set, the more relaxed we are in trading if it is very high if the situation turns around, the risk of loss is quite high, especially if we play 2 types of coins to trade. I myself have only dared to bet below $100, more than that I have not dared because I still have minimal experience.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Yamifoud on February 19, 2025, 11:39:56 PM
Or maybe he is talking about 1x. Some people do not know that it is still leverage. Even if you have $200 and trade with $100, that is 0.5x leverage. There must be leverage in future trading.

If he is saying people should use 1x or lower than 1x. I think it is good.

The smaller the leverage we set, the more relaxed we are in trading if it is very high if the situation turns around, the risk of loss is quite high, especially if we play 2 types of coins to trade. I myself have only dared to bet below $100, more than that I have not dared because I still have minimal experience.
Just trade on the amount you are comfortable with. That is a good thing to do.

Those who find themselves greedy and put in huge amounts trying to capture the chance of earning big will most likely end up disappointed. Trading is harsh if we are not able to manage ourselves. We could lose our money instantly if we are driven by greed and temptation. That is why we should have to follow our goal and set some limitations. Keeping on the right track, even just earning a few bucks, will lead to success.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: tottong on February 20, 2025, 03:19:39 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

I agree with one thing where there is no need to rush to make money the easy way as most people talk about because even though trading provides such opportunities, many people actually get into worse conditions.
The fact is that people are trapped in the idea of making a lot of money in trading and they ignore the risks that occur and in the end they fail in trading.

Making risk management in trading is indeed difficult and maybe people will also have difficulty maintaining the appropriate portion for the trades they are running so that forcing it will give a much greater risk.
Good points you share but difficult to implement for beginners who are too eager to make money quickly in trading.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: john_egbert on February 20, 2025, 08:45:36 AM
Or maybe he is talking about 1x. Some people do not know that it is still leverage. Even if you have $200 and trade with $100, that is 0.5x leverage. There must be leverage in future trading.

If he is saying people should use 1x or lower than 1x. I think it is good.

The smaller the leverage we set, the more relaxed we are in trading if it is very high if the situation turns around, the risk of loss is quite high, especially if we play 2 types of coins to trade. I myself have only dared to bet below $100, more than that I have not dared because I still have minimal experience.

As it was said - do it as you see fit.
It's great when you minimize the risks and play it safe. Losses are imminent in trading, the thing is that you need to adapt to what happened and learn.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: qurbanshah02 on February 20, 2025, 09:19:17 AM
Or maybe he is talking about 1x. Some people do not know that it is still leverage. Even if you have $200 and trade with $100, that is 0.5x leverage. There must be leverage in future trading.

If he is saying people should use 1x or lower than 1x. I think it is good.

The smaller the leverage we set, the more relaxed we are in trading if it is very high if the situation turns around, the risk of loss is quite high, especially if we play 2 types of coins to trade. I myself have only dared to bet below $100, more than that I have not dared because I still have minimal experience.

As it was said - do it as you see fit.
It's great when you minimize the risks and play it safe. Losses are imminent in trading, the thing is that you need to adapt to what happened and learn.
Everyone has loss in trading because in trading there is both profit and loss due to which everyone gets loss in the beginning and when one is competent and skilled in it then he becomes able to trade and there is no loss in trading and continues to be successful with profit.  We should learn about it and not grow into it because if we worry, our mind will not work properly.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Peanutswar on February 20, 2025, 12:52:02 PM
1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose

Before making a trade always make a plan what are you gonna do with your trade, analyze the market, check the recent market situation and trend before making an entry. Try to have a confirmation.

2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big

Profit is profit at the end of the day, others have a goal there's a number of profit they can get and lose per day so they didn't carried away too much with the market stand this helps you at the same time control yourself. At the end of the day your accumulated profit are your goal.

3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.

I personally not recommend this because you are way making too much risk with your asset. Still consider having a risk management. Like what you've said in no.1

4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

Not all altcoins are bad just make sure you know how the project works and what are their future plans such has having a documentation and roadmaps to make sure you have keep intact and can exit if its already skeptical.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Kelward on February 20, 2025, 02:16:53 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

I agree with one thing where there is no need to rush to make money the easy way as most people talk about because even though trading provides such opportunities, many people actually get into worse conditions.
The fact is that people are trapped in the idea of making a lot of money in trading and they ignore the risks that occur and in the end they fail in trading.

Making risk management in trading is indeed difficult and maybe people will also have difficulty maintaining the appropriate portion for the trades they are running so that forcing it will give a much greater risk.
Good points you share but difficult to implement for beginners who are too eager to make money quickly in trading.
Greed is a major factor that makes people to lose in trading, they're always in a haste to make profit, in the end majority of them will lose their funds. People are looking for fast ways to make money and they will think that trading is a shortcut to their aims, they will enter with confidence and without experience they will lose all their funds very fast. I thank OP for listing out his strategic plans to reduce trading loses and I agree with his points, it shows his level of experience. To summarize his strategies I'd say that every trader needs to remove the mentality of get rich quick in trading, better to trade with small amounts to minimize big loses.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: barisbilgili on February 20, 2025, 05:53:22 PM
I agree with one thing where there is no need to rush to make money the easy way as most people talk about because even though trading provides such opportunities, many people actually get into worse conditions.
The fact is that people are trapped in the idea of making a lot of money in trading and they ignore the risks that occur and in the end they fail in trading.

Making risk management in trading is indeed difficult and maybe people will also have difficulty maintaining the appropriate portion for the trades they are running so that forcing it will give a much greater risk.
Good points you share but difficult to implement for beginners who are too eager to make money quickly in trading.
Greed is a major factor that makes people to lose in trading, they're always in a haste to make profit, in the end majority of them will lose their funds. People are looking for fast ways to make money and they will think that trading is a shortcut to their aims, they will enter with confidence and without experience they will lose all their funds very fast. I thank OP for listing out his strategic plans to reduce trading loses and I agree with his points, it shows his level of experience. To summarize his strategies I'd say that every trader needs to remove the mentality of get rich quick in trading, better to trade with small amounts to minimize big loses.
When someone trades with greed, of course they no longer analyze market conditions which will be decided based on their desires and not the trading knowledge they have and when someone thinks that they can make easy profits in trading, of course they have misunderstood trading and they only realize it when they have experienced losses while trading.

By trading with a small capital, of course the losses we will get are also small and most importantly I think when trading we must be able to understand it well and do not do it with greed that causes someone to miss the profits that have been obtained and the mistake of everyone who is new to trading, they think they can get rich easily, of course this is very wrong, every trader must go through various learning processes until they can succeed and for some people who do not have patience when learning trading, of course they will choose to leave trading and will never do it again.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Swapter.io on February 20, 2025, 06:22:57 PM
Losses are an inseparable part of trading. There are no highs without lows. No matter how good the advice and strategies are, nothing will protect you from the risk of losing money, and it's important to always remember that you might incur losses. If you're not mentally prepared for this, it can have a very negative impact on your emotional state in the future. It's always important to remember the possibility of losses, but that doesn't mean trading is an unprofitable endeavor  ;)


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: CroverNo01 on February 21, 2025, 10:01:57 PM
Everyone has loss in trading because in trading there is both profit and loss due to which everyone gets loss in the beginning and when one is competent and skilled in it then he becomes able to trade and there is no loss in trading and continues to be successful with profit.  We should learn about it and not grow into it because if we worry, our mind will not work properly.
Growth is constant in the system and Learning doesn't end once you're signed up for trading. The trading system is vast and everyday, we come across new projects that either becomes beneficial or lead us to loss. We all have our own stories to tell when it comes to trading. We've made quite gigantic profits and losses, this is the attitude to grow if one is pessimistic towards growth. The system is risky, merely funding your trading accounts is risky, because the volatility of the market is present.

Losses can not be permanently removed but it can be minimized and controlled in the market. The professional traders that gained whole lot of experience, are still recording back to back losses, this is no coincidence but it is the order of settings in the market.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: harapan on February 21, 2025, 10:18:04 PM

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.


I think this is a well detailed information about knowing when to trade and when not to, and also to understand every angles around it. I solely agree to this and I believe adherence to this can actually amounts to a limits of loses and knowing fully well how to handle every aspects that creeps in while trading. I know most times alot of traders are always at the brims of making the money quickly but failed to understand what's involved and follow the process and again since we don't plan to get a loss this year I believe one should embrace this procedures and help to minimize Losses while trading.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: thefreethinker on February 21, 2025, 11:30:19 PM
Many thanks for the tips OP :) Your points are very simple yet super powerful if one can will them properly, I'll try to sink them in.

This space is really not easy to navigate and profit off, one has to gather knowledge and of different kinds and know how to apply this knowledge effectively without letting greed or emotion to get in their way.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: tottong on February 24, 2025, 02:15:59 AM
Greed is a major factor that makes people to lose in trading, they're always in a haste to make profit, in the end majority of them will lose their funds. People are looking for fast ways to make money and they will think that trading is a shortcut to their aims, they will enter with confidence and without experience they will lose all their funds very fast. I thank OP for listing out his strategic plans to reduce trading loses and I agree with his points, it shows his level of experience. To summarize his strategies I'd say that every trader needs to remove the mentality of get rich quick in trading, better to trade with small amounts to minimize big loses.

That is a problem that is difficult for a trader to overcome and maybe what distinguishes experienced or professional traders from novice traders in terms of controlling themselves so as not to be so greedy in trading.
The motivation to gain wealth in trading is not a problem as long as they are able to control themselves and not get involved in trading in a much more greedy way.
Slowly people can improve their trading skills to be better and that needs to be done by training mental readiness in combining existing knowledge.

Without having that, it is difficult for beginner traders to gain experience in trading because if they continue to force it and they experience losses, it will make them increasingly fail to achieve good skills.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: hyudien on February 24, 2025, 07:05:21 AM
Losses are an inseparable part of trading. There are no highs without lows. No matter how good the advice and strategies are, nothing will protect you from the risk of losing money, and it's important to always remember that you might incur losses. If you're not mentally prepared for this, it can have a very negative impact on your emotional state in the future. It's always important to remember the possibility of losses, but that doesn't mean trading is an unprofitable endeavor  ;)
It cannot be separated at all, so it is true that we cannot continue to expect profit without having the risk of feeling loss. And even in trading it is actually more than that, because from the beginning we should have realized what our risks are in trading and it is impossible for us to eliminate them. We can only minimize the risk by increasing knowledge, skills and experience. And that is only minimizing, not eliminating all the risks that are always present in trading. Don't think that something we do has no risk.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Glen Hoddle on February 24, 2025, 08:50:06 AM

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.


I think this is a well detailed information about knowing when to trade and when not to, and also to understand every angles around it. I solely agree to this and I believe adherence to this can actually amounts to a limits of loses and knowing fully well how to handle every aspects that creeps in while trading. I know most times alot of traders are always at the brims of making the money quickly but failed to understand what's involved and follow the process and again since we don't plan to get a loss this year I believe one should embrace this procedures and help to minimize Losses while trading.

Trading mainly depends on skill and ability to take risk, if a person is an experienced trader then he can definitely reap the benefits.  But I am not sure about all coins only Bitcoin I can give some assurance if the trader is experienced.  I was last trading last week, in between I did not join any more trades because the market is a bit calm and can dip anytime. 
But this coming week I will be trading with 220 dollars, I only trust Bitcoin and I don't trust any other coins.  Other coins in the market sometimes go up and down most of the time, but Bitcoin is the most trusted because it is able to go up later even if it goes down.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: UNTO Chain on February 27, 2025, 08:47:08 AM
I agree with all of those points. It's important to be patient when trading and not rush into decisions based on emotions or short-term gains. Losing money is a part of trading, but having a plan in place can help minimize losses and maximize profits over time. Additionally, focusing on smaller trades rather than larger ones can reduce risk while still allowing for potential growth.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: FortuneFollower on February 27, 2025, 09:09:38 AM
I agree with all of those points. It's important to be patient when trading and not rush into decisions based on emotions or short-term gains. Losing money is a part of trading, but having a plan in place can help minimize losses and maximize profits over time. Additionally, focusing on smaller trades rather than larger ones can reduce risk while still allowing for potential growth.

Newbie should start out small, and look after his depo like after a big treasure of sorts, because it's essential to learn how to minimize risks and play it safe.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Negotiation on February 27, 2025, 11:45:53 AM
Losses are an inseparable part of trading. There are no highs without lows. No matter how good the advice and strategies are, nothing will protect you from the risk of losing money, and it's important to always remember that you might incur losses. If you're not mentally prepared for this, it can have a very negative impact on your emotional state in the future. It's always important to remember the possibility of losses, but that doesn't mean trading is an unprofitable endeavor  ;)
It cannot be separated at all, so it is true that we cannot continue to expect profit without having the risk of feeling loss. And even in trading it is actually more than that, because from the beginning we should have realized what our risks are in trading and it is impossible for us to eliminate them. We can only minimize the risk by increasing knowledge, skills and experience. And that is only minimizing, not eliminating all the risks that are always present in trading. Don't think that something we do has no risk.
To trade you have to accept losses it is true that without taking risks you cannot expect to make profits proper knowledge can reduce risk. In addition the trading market especially the cryptocurrency market is very volatile. Sudden price fluctuations can cause large losses for traders unexpected news economic changes and market rumors can cause rapid price changes. Many traders do not pay enough attention to risk management traders often become emotional and make wrong decisions that push them towards more risks.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Inwestour on February 27, 2025, 01:04:00 PM

To trade you have to accept losses it is true that without taking risks you cannot expect to make profits proper knowledge can reduce risk. In addition the trading market especially the cryptocurrency market is very volatile. Sudden price fluctuations can cause large losses for traders unexpected news economic changes and market rumors can cause rapid price changes. Many traders do not pay enough attention to risk management traders often become emotional and make wrong decisions that push them towards more risks.
There is one judgment that is very true in cryptocurrency, holding bitcoin in most cases will be more profitable than trading, I think that for beginners this is especially true statement, because they will most often lose more than they earn. And experienced traders say that in order to start earning in trading, you need to spend a lot of time on training. And we are not even talking about months, but most likely about years, in my case holding bitcoin also brought more profit, so I focus on this.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: GiftedMAN on February 27, 2025, 02:28:20 PM

To trade you have to accept losses it is true that without taking risks you cannot expect to make profits proper knowledge can reduce risk. In addition the trading market especially the cryptocurrency market is very volatile. Sudden price fluctuations can cause large losses for traders unexpected news economic changes and market rumors can cause rapid price changes. Many traders do not pay enough attention to risk management traders often become emotional and make wrong decisions that push them towards more risks.
And experienced traders say that in order to start earning in trading, you need to spend a lot of time on training. And we are not even talking about months, but most likely about years, in my case holding bitcoin also brought more profit, so I focus on this.

For the traders that spent years to gather trading experience, some of them will also agree with me that your level of experience doesn't stop you from experiencing losses in trading because you can not be lucky all the time. Gaining experience only helps you to avoid certain mistakes as a trade it also helps you to get first hand information regarding the right strategies to use in trading but in most cases even after using the best strategies experience traders still losses in trading. For people who are not honest about why the face daily in trading they will pretend that it's rosy all the team but the reverse is the case in most times. Holding Bitcoin for a long term should be the best plan for anyone who is tired of losing in trading but I'm not saying that people should be discouraged from trading as it is their personal decisions to make.



Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: DiMarxist on February 27, 2025, 03:02:29 PM
Except the second phrase of the number one and all the rest is okay. Don't be in haste in cryptocurrency trading is a good advice but that is not the reason why people lose daily. There are other factors also contributed to people losing in the short term trading of a day.
Even the person think of day trading and he is good with trading, he can use $200 to make a profit in that day and all what I will say is that he should not pursue or chase big profit but cashout whatever he earn that day and close the trade to avoid greedy lose


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Baki202 on February 27, 2025, 05:47:58 PM
I think this is a well detailed information about knowing when to trade and when not to, and also to understand every angles around it. I solely agree to this and I believe adherence to this can actually amounts to a limits of loses and knowing fully well how to handle every aspects that creeps in while trading. I know most times alot of traders are always at the brims of making the money quickly but failed to understand what's involved and follow the process and again since we don't plan to get a loss this year I believe one should embrace this procedures and help to minimize Losses while trading.


No matter how smart anyone think they are the market will always take its share no matter how good you analysis of the market the only thing that can happen is for you to recover what ever you have lost during the trading and it is a very complicated issue when you swell to much on those loses because of how humans are designed we don't want to lose we always want to gain but it is when we see life beyond that is when we are going to be able to succeed.

When we have clear minds on how we want to manage our self during trading and risk is something that we can take at our own disposal and we know that we can not always win that is what risk is all about when you are able to do unmeasurable things. When you control your greed has a trader this is another infection that traders deal with and very hard to treat and when you are able to treat it then you have lesser issues to deal with concerning trading, too many challenges to deal with as a trader.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Bushdark on February 27, 2025, 05:56:13 PM
Except the second phrase of the number one and all the rest is okay. Don't be in haste in cryptocurrency trading is a good advice but that is not the reason why people lose daily. There are other factors also contributed to people losing in the short term trading of a day.
Even the person think of day trading and he is good with trading, he can use $200 to make a profit in that day and all what I will say is that he should not pursue or chase big profit but cashout whatever he earn that day and close the trade to avoid greedy lose
Cryptocurrency trading is not something that is easy to accomplish because loses will always come and when you don't know how to manage your portfolio, you will start having problems finding it hard to make money from trading. Many newbies really need to learn how to stay focused and learn how to trade, not going into trading without having the full knowledge on how to read the market and execution successful trades without much losses. Trading is very profitable for those that know that how to read the market and know the best time for them to enter the market. You just don't trading at anytime that you like, you need to trade based on your strategy and the greenlight you have seen in the market.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: godbex.io on February 27, 2025, 10:05:33 PM
I think it is also important to mention at the current stage of the market (and in general) that trading is not that risky if you have not studied and have no practical experience, and this is very dangerous for a beginner

There are a lot of different stories, with the same memecoins, when beginners flew in with their last money with the hope of trading coins and earning a lot of money. It's funny and very sad how they lose such big money. A separate story about scams and manipulations...

Not to stray too far from the examples - the coin of Trump, Ivanka, Milania. These stories really show how ruthless the market is for beginners :)

In fact, the stories are very strange and uncomfortable for market beginners. You always need to study and understand how they come out and what are the risks in such coins.

You can read the article about these coins in the blog and understand what kind of scams they were and how this "scam" on such coins took place

Here is a resource where you can read and draw conclusions for yourself: https://godbex.io/reveal-trump-coins-success-and-ivanka-coins-scam/


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: harapan on February 28, 2025, 02:41:38 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big


You're definitely correct and right being in haste for making money will only end you in loss and jeopardy, yeah ever investor must take note of the strategy of starting small and aiming big. Everything you have ever point out here are good points to every investors and traders to guide themselves with and i think it'll be more useful inorder to avoid trading and loosing at same time because we don't plan to earn and lose but rather to earn and get more profits.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Jody.Drummer on February 28, 2025, 05:18:06 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big


You're definitely correct and right being in haste for making money will only end you in loss and jeopardy, yeah ever investor must take note of the strategy of starting small and aiming big. Everything you have ever point out here are good points to every investors and traders to guide themselves with and i think it'll be more useful inorder to avoid trading and loosing at same time because we don't plan to earn and lose but rather to earn and get more profits.
I remember someone saying that being hasty is a bad trait. Indeed, in life we ​​have to be fast in doing something, but we also have to be able to distinguish between being fast and being hasty, they are 2 different things even though they do have similarities in a simple sense. Well, we shouldn't be like that, because we have to be mature in thinking about something, don't let us think only because emotions control it and indeed usually someone who is in a hurry is because they are wrapped in emotions.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Wakate on March 01, 2025, 09:35:57 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big


You're definitely correct and right being in haste for making money will only end you in loss and jeopardy, yeah ever investor must take note of the strategy of starting small and aiming big. Everything you have ever point out here are good points to every investors and traders to guide themselves with and i think it'll be more useful inorder to avoid trading and loosing at same time because we don't plan to earn and lose but rather to earn and get more profits.
Trading and losing is like brother and sister. They work together and sometimes you might be seeing just one of them frequently, why asking yourself why you don't see the other. There are some traders that may not see the other person maybe untill one month after before seeing the other. You could be losing and asking yourself why you don't make profits. This is why every traders need to know what they are doing and the best time they could trade and make reasonable profits in the market. Trading can be very profitable if you know how to go about it. Majority may not understand that making money from trading is not based on hard work alone but luck too.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Popkon6 on March 01, 2025, 11:44:56 PM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big


You're definitely correct and right being in haste for making money will only end you in loss and jeopardy, yeah ever investor must take note of the strategy of starting small and aiming big. Everything you have ever point out here are good points to every investors and traders to guide themselves with and i think it'll be more useful inorder to avoid trading and loosing at same time because we don't plan to earn and lose but rather to earn and get more profits.

Of course, you should learn these strategies, because it is possible to profit in trading through some techniques. A few days ago, I made a trade with a simple $ 70, and I made a small profit, but I sold it again. However, controlling greed is the most important thing, because greed only leads to losses, so greed must be resisted. However, to make yourself more suitable for trading, you have to use the strategy repeatedly, but I think using the DCA strategy will be good for every investor.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Zadicar on March 02, 2025, 11:16:28 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big


You're definitely correct and right being in haste for making money will only end you in loss and jeopardy, yeah ever investor must take note of the strategy of starting small and aiming big. Everything you have ever point out here are good points to every investors and traders to guide themselves with and i think it'll be more useful inorder to avoid trading and loosing at same time because we don't plan to earn and lose but rather to earn and get more profits.
Trading and losing is like brother and sister. They work together and sometimes you might be seeing just one of them frequently, why asking yourself why you don't see the other. There are some traders that may not see the other person maybe untill one month after before seeing the other. You could be losing and asking yourself why you don't make profits. This is why every traders need to know what they are doing and the best time they could trade and make reasonable profits in the market. Trading can be very profitable if you know how to go about it. Majority may not understand that making money from trading is not based on hard work alone but luck too.
Whether you do deal up with something that talks about making or earning money then you would be needing up of course to risks money on which its normal that you would be experiencing on losing money on which its neither you are involved with trading, gambling, investing, business or any other sort of ventures on which you would be needing up some money to earn money, then you would definitely be needing to risks up money for you to earn on which losing up risks will really be just that normal or something that you would be commonly be able to experience. Trading and losing is always been that a partner and its something that you should be considering because if you are expecting that you can win up everytime then thats something delusional. You wont be able to realize not until you would be facing up some issues or situations like losing money on which this will inevitably the situation that you will be able to experience along the way. Thisi s why you should really be that making use of the amount on which you can afford to lose and never tend to chase up those loses because this will really be causing up even more trouble or problem if you wont be that careful.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: boyptc on March 02, 2025, 11:56:35 AM
Of course, you should learn these strategies, because it is possible to profit in trading through some techniques. A few days ago, I made a trade with a simple $ 70, and I made a small profit, but I sold it again. However, controlling greed is the most important thing, because greed only leads to losses, so greed must be resisted. However, to make yourself more suitable for trading, you have to use the strategy repeatedly, but I think using the DCA strategy will be good for every investor.
When you're able to profit, make sure that it won't be getting back to the market just to lose it. But if you're going to trade that again and add it up to your capital, do everything you can so that you won't lose that money.

Because if you do, then all of your efforts are wasted. With that, that's how most of the traders earn more when they are willing to lose because they want to learn more.

If the profits are intact and you're using it to DCA and have some more holdings for your portfolio like in Bitcoin, you're doing a better job with that and keep it up.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: SquallLeonhart on March 02, 2025, 07:44:49 PM
Most people worry about losing, you shouldn't be upset or sad, unless you lost more than you can chew, but in that case you were wrong to trade with that much to begin with. If you traded with what you can afford to lose and ended up losing, just use that as learning experience and try to do better, because without that you are not going to get much out of it, you are going to end up with some problems and you shouldn't really be able to make that kind of return all that much.

We need to consider how things could change with time, and if we can assume that trading is a journey then you start by losing first, but learn and gain experience and slowly become better and eventually you start to make a good income from it.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Egii Nna on March 02, 2025, 09:40:35 PM
No matter what you do in this life, you must accept loss only in trading. That is why many are still confused, which is why they have the perception that if they lose in trading, they will not trade again, which is even the life that you are living every second, minute, hour, or day that is being deducted from the days left for you on earth. That is why I said no matter what in life you are losing in trading, you are expected to have your risk management so that you will know when to take your profit; if not, you will be the best victim of loss. So trading is not just about investing, but it also deals with a lot of knowledge and questions so that you can meet up to the start.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Zadicar on March 03, 2025, 08:53:17 AM
No matter what you do in this life, you must accept loss only in trading. That is why many are still confused, which is why they have the perception that if they lose in trading, they will not trade again, which is even the life that you are living every second, minute, hour, or day that is being deducted from the days left for you on earth. That is why I said no matter what in life you are losing in trading, you are expected to have your risk management so that you will know when to take your profit; if not, you will be the best victim of loss. So trading is not just about investing, but it also deals with a lot of knowledge and questions so that you can meet up to the start.
Acceptance is the key on which it will really be that just normal that whenever you do deal up with something that involves money then there's always the chance that you can lose up money too on which this is really just that normal. When dealing up into something like trading then losing is inevitable and this is something that you do really need up to to consider so that at the moment you are already that trying out to deal with it then always been best that you should be mindful about on the possibilities that you might be able to encounter. You cant really just be winning up money all the time and its best that you do keep yourself on learning all the way and you cant really just that expect that you wont be able to lose and this is something which is really that impossible There are really just that those situations on which you will be becoming that too positive on things but ending up on frustrated because of something that being too optimistic.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Egii Nna on March 03, 2025, 09:05:58 AM
No matter what you do in this life, you must accept loss only in trading. That is why many are still confused, which is why they have the perception that if they lose in trading, they will not trade again, which is even the life that you are living every second, minute, hour, or day that is being deducted from the days left for you on earth. That is why I said no matter what in life you are losing in trading, you are expected to have your risk management so that you will know when to take your profit; if not, you will be the best victim of loss. So trading is not just about investing, but it also deals with a lot of knowledge and questions so that you can meet up to the start.
Acceptance is the key on which it will really be that just normal that whenever you do deal up with something that involves money then there's always the chance that you can lose up money too on which this is really just that normal. When dealing up into something like trading then losing is inevitable and this is something that you do really need up to to consider so that at the moment you are already that trying out to deal with it then always been best that you should be mindful about on the possibilities that you might be able to encounter. You cant really just be winning up money all the time and its best that you do keep yourself on learning all the way and you cant really just that expect that you wont be able to lose and this is something which is really that impossible There are really just that those situations on which you will be becoming that too positive on things but ending up on frustrated because of something that being too optimistic.

That is why it is said that failure is a pathway to success because most times, if not for failure and losses, you will not identify your mistakes, and that will go a long way to affect you in the future of your business, but by those failures and mistakes, you will know that you need more knowledge on the business that you are involved in.

This happened to me recently, just a couple of months ago, when I invested my money in stocks, but unfortunately I gained a bit of profit. Instead of selling it, I was waiting for more profit, but at the end of the day, I ended up selling everything at a loss, which I was not even able to get half of what I invested. Although to me I take that loss as a tuition fee for the knowledge I got from the business and wish to invest more next time; that is why I said that no matter what life is, don’t take your loss as failure but take it as knowledge.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: GigaBit on March 03, 2025, 03:41:53 PM
For those who understand trading well, it is very easy to profit from trading. Traders can get cash reward every day. While trading is a great tool for some to earn money, it can be a way to lose money for many. When trading, a trader should keep several things in mind so that they can perform their trading tasks with some awareness.

To be successful, a trader should set his limit. That is, he should be aware of how much return he wants from a trade in advance. The trader should be satisfied with the return he gets even if it is less than what is needed. The trader should definitely do enough research and review before trading.

Before taking a new trade, trader should think twice about where he is taking the trade. He should not invest in coins that are likely to be lost in the long run. It is better to avoid tokens that do not have any fundamentals.

In trading, many times, after doing good research, it is not effective, rather the trader has to face losses due to sudden decline. The trader must be mentally prepared so that he has the ability to bear even if he has temporary losses.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: AYOBA on March 03, 2025, 06:47:37 PM
Sure. To me, I think only traders that lack knowledge and don’t really know where to put their money will trade altcoins because of how risky they are. Altcoins are very risky, although even if you want to trade altcoins, it should not be for a newbie trader. I think that should be for a professional trader who has been trading and already mastered the market; they should be the ones who trade altcoins.
One thing that most newbies didn’t understand is that they don’t want to seek for knowledge for them to know how altcoin trading operates; all their thinking is that the altcoins are normal trading; they don’t know that there are more risks than other trading, and that’s why all newbies lose more than other people in trading.

Because even those that have been in trading for long periods of time are still learning by seeking for more knowledge about trading since nobody knows all, and learning is a continuous sentence. The more we learn, the more we have sufficient knowledge and understanding. Even the professional traders that have already mastered the market still don’t take trades for granted.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Tom Ronald on March 04, 2025, 11:24:20 AM
It is not easy to make money and start losing the money all because you need extra income from trading. The fact is that most traders are losing. If you do not want to lose in trading in 2025, you need to have these four trading strategic plans.

1. Do not be in haste. That is the reason people think of day trading and lose
2. Having it in mind that it is better to earn little than to lose big all because you want to earn big
3. Average instead of martingale. An example of this is if you have $1000 for trading, you can begin with $200 and always be satisfied with the profit. But it you are losing, you can add $200 to it and so on to help you increase the chance of making money as it will make the market price get near to the price you bought the coin.
4. Be careful of altcoins. Although I trade altcoins but I use very lower amount of money for it. They are very dangerous.

There are others like knowing how to read charts, read and interpret news into your analyses and speculations, know about indicators. But which are the basics and I do not need to mention them as I believe you know them already.

Honestly seeking education should come first, I don’t think new traders get enough of that. They simply want to come in to make quick profits without having the best understanding. Try as much as possible to understand technical and fundamental analysis then it’s safe to say they are 50 percent ready


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Bushdark on March 04, 2025, 09:06:46 PM
Sure. To me, I think only traders that lack knowledge and don’t really know where to put their money will trade altcoins because of how risky they are. Altcoins are very risky, although even if you want to trade altcoins, it should not be for a newbie trader. I think that should be for a professional trader who has been trading and already mastered the market; they should be the ones who trade altcoins.
One thing that most newbies didn’t understand is that they don’t want to seek for knowledge for them to know how altcoin trading operates; all their thinking is that the altcoins are normal trading; they don’t know that there are more risks than other trading, and that’s why all newbies lose more than other people in trading.

Because even those that have been in trading for long periods of time are still learning by seeking for more knowledge about trading since nobody knows all, and learning is a continuous sentence. The more we learn, the more we have sufficient knowledge and understanding. Even the professional traders that have already mastered the market still don’t take trades for granted.
Just like many that has been trading the market using demo account, they will not know what it means by losing money in trading.
Trading is not friendly at all and it's not the place we're you start getting emotional because you lose some bets and you are not able to meet up with your trading plans. Trading is very technical and those that have the capital are the ones that are making the most money from the market. Although the market can be manipulated and big traders for loses too which is why analyzing the market thoroughly is how we can escape market uncertainty.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Zadicar on March 05, 2025, 06:23:31 AM
Sure. To me, I think only traders that lack knowledge and don’t really know where to put their money will trade altcoins because of how risky they are. Altcoins are very risky, although even if you want to trade altcoins, it should not be for a newbie trader. I think that should be for a professional trader who has been trading and already mastered the market; they should be the ones who trade altcoins.
One thing that most newbies didn’t understand is that they don’t want to seek for knowledge for them to know how altcoin trading operates; all their thinking is that the altcoins are normal trading; they don’t know that there are more risks than other trading, and that’s why all newbies lose more than other people in trading.

Because even those that have been in trading for long periods of time are still learning by seeking for more knowledge about trading since nobody knows all, and learning is a continuous sentence. The more we learn, the more we have sufficient knowledge and understanding. Even the professional traders that have already mastered the market still don’t take trades for granted.
Just like many that has been trading the market using demo account, they will not know what it means by losing money in trading.
Trading is not friendly at all and it's not the place we're you start getting emotional because you lose some bets and you are not able to meet up with your trading plans. Trading is very technical and those that have the capital are the ones that are making the most money from the market. Although the market can be manipulated and big traders for loses too which is why analyzing the market thoroughly is how we can escape market uncertainty.
Demo trading is really just that good on familiarizing yourself about those technical indicators and other informations on which it will really be shown on the chart and having that kind of awareness about on how those candlestick works and behaves but if we do speak about real time trading then we do know that this isnt really something that you can be able to gain or experience on demo trading. One of the most common reason is that there's no way that you can be able to develop your emotion control on which this will really be that you wont be able to achieve when dealing up with demo because you do know that on demo there's no way that you would lose since those funds are fake on which in every positions you do make then it will really be just that totally having that 100% confidence since you do have in mind that you cant lose anything on which you would be careless on making up some entries or exits, but at the time that you are already using real money or live account then this is where you could be able to point and spot out theirm main differences.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: @nn@_pen9 on March 05, 2025, 07:13:25 AM
Sure. To me, I think only traders that lack knowledge and don’t really know where to put their money will trade altcoins because of how risky they are. Altcoins are very risky, although even if you want to trade altcoins, it should not be for a newbie trader. I think that should be for a professional trader who has been trading and already mastered the market; they should be the ones who trade altcoins.
One thing that most newbies didn’t understand is that they don’t want to seek for knowledge for them to know how altcoin trading operates; all their thinking is that the altcoins are normal trading; they don’t know that there are more risks than other trading, and that’s why all newbies lose more than other people in trading.

Because even those that have been in trading for long periods of time are still learning by seeking for more knowledge about trading since nobody knows all, and learning is a continuous sentence. The more we learn, the more we have sufficient knowledge and understanding. Even the professional traders that have already mastered the market still don’t take trades for granted.
Just like many that has been trading the market using demo account, they will not know what it means by losing money in trading.
Trading is not friendly at all and it's not the place we're you start getting emotional because you lose some bets and you are not able to meet up with your trading plans. Trading is very technical and those that have the capital are the ones that are making the most money from the market. Although the market can be manipulated and big traders for loses too which is why analyzing the market thoroughly is how we can escape market uncertainty.
In my opinion, the demo and real concepts both analyze market movements, in this case the main goal is that before a person wants to take a real action, he should first study the demo account so that he can get enlightenment or lessons from the demo account, that trading does not only require guesswork, but requires in-depth skills in studying it. Yes, everyone knows that trading is a complex and often challenging activity, where decisions must be taken based on in-depth analysis and a good understanding of the market.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: laijsica on March 05, 2025, 08:54:57 AM
Sure. To me, I think only traders that lack knowledge and don’t really know where to put their money will trade altcoins because of how risky they are. Altcoins are very risky, although even if you want to trade altcoins, it should not be for a newbie trader. I think that should be for a professional trader who has been trading and already mastered the market; they should be the ones who trade altcoins.
One thing that most newbies didn’t understand is that they don’t want to seek for knowledge for them to know how altcoin trading operates; all their thinking is that the altcoins are normal trading; they don’t know that there are more risks than other trading, and that’s why all newbies lose more than other people in trading.

Because even those that have been in trading for long periods of time are still learning by seeking for more knowledge about trading since nobody knows all, and learning is a continuous sentence. The more we learn, the more we have sufficient knowledge and understanding. Even the professional traders that have already mastered the market still don’t take trades for granted.
Just like many that has been trading the market using demo account, they will not know what it means by losing money in trading.
Trading is not friendly at all and it's not the place we're you start getting emotional because you lose some bets and you are not able to meet up with your trading plans. Trading is very technical and those that have the capital are the ones that are making the most money from the market. Although the market can be manipulated and big traders for loses too which is why analyzing the market thoroughly is how we can escape market uncertainty.
You are right, trading is not friendly at all, it constantly cheats people who try to get rich in a short time. Technically you can think of applying many strategies in the market but to be competent in trading you need to invest a lot of money in the market. Some people assume that your trading strategy is ineffective without a minimum of $5k, while some traders assume at least $15k. The idea that has emerged from my short experience is that firstly, you will be more profitable to invest than to trade. Secondly, you should refrain from buying in the crypto market with a lump sum while trading. After depositing a decent amount of $5k - $10k by buying coins every week or every month in DCA mode try to make profits initially.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: wmaurik on March 05, 2025, 11:12:54 AM
Just like many that has been trading the market using demo account, they will not know what it means by losing money in trading.
Trading is not friendly at all and it's not the place we're you start getting emotional because you lose some bets and you are not able to meet up with your trading plans. Trading is very technical and those that have the capital are the ones that are making the most money from the market. Although the market can be manipulated and big traders for loses too which is why analyzing the market thoroughly is how we can escape market uncertainty.
In my opinion, the demo and real concepts both analyze market movements, in this case the main goal is that before a person wants to take a real action, he should first study the demo account so that he can get enlightenment or lessons from the demo account, that trading does not only require guesswork, but requires in-depth skills in studying it. Yes, everyone knows that trading is a complex and often challenging activity, where decisions must be taken based on in-depth analysis and a good understanding of the market.
The understanding gained from a demo account may be very different when they are going to trade using real capital where they must have the right understanding to be able to know the right time to enter and exit in order to make a profit because if someone does it by just guessing as they please, of course it is very unlikely for them to be able to make a profit on trading and many losses will be experienced.
To be able to survive every challenge of trading, of course, a good understanding of trading is needed and for some people who cannot survive the challenges of learning to trade, of course they will stop at a loss, so patience is needed in learning trading in order to be able to be successful in trading.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Nothingtodo on March 05, 2025, 11:43:34 AM
Trading losses are a prerequisite for trading. Most traders get involved in trading crypto knowing that they will inevitably face losses. However, if you can master some things, it is possible to greatly reduce trading losses, such as controlling emotions and controlling excessive greed. When trading, a trader must learn about important things like market conditions, coin values, etc., and then start trading.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: Mame89 on March 05, 2025, 08:00:29 PM
And if trading doesn't work for you even if you've been equipped with various strategies, knowledge and tips, you have to give up because that's not the only option that we have here. Instead, do some reconsideration of your strategies and maybe trading or the actual day trading isn't for you. We can be holders and investors that pretty much work for the majority of us here. You don't have to do some daily trades if that doesn't work but this choice is working for me and I have proven it to be more effective than chasing the markets.
If so, we must be able to evaluate what is wrong with our strategy in order to minimize losses and change our trading methods. If we continue to lose when doing day trading, then it can be said that it is not right for you and you should look for another strategy. There are also traders who often lose in trading when they have sold, eh it turns out that the price can still fly high again, so they want to enter again but instead become minus.

This is all a test of the trading world, sometimes you have to dare to take a stand and not get carried away by FOMO, you must have a steel mentality and of course be able to control your emotions. The key is, rushing is the number one killer in trading, so don't be greedy and discipline in trading is the key to success. Because even though you have been equipped with various strategies, knowledge, and tips, but when you don't apply these keys in trading, everything will be in vain.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: sana54210 on March 09, 2025, 01:15:22 PM
The understanding gained from a demo account may be very different when they are going to trade using real capital where they must have the right understanding to be able to know the right time to enter and exit in order to make a profit because if someone does it by just guessing as they please, of course it is very unlikely for them to be able to make a profit on trading and many losses will be experienced.
To be able to survive every challenge of trading, of course, a good understanding of trading is needed and for some people who cannot survive the challenges of learning to trade, of course they will stop at a loss, so patience is needed in learning trading in order to be able to be successful in trading.
That is why I try to tell newbies to stay away from demos if they want to use it to learn how to. Demo isn't there to teach you how to trade, because you can't learn it from a demo, it's there to test strategies, or better yet you could just have fun doing it for entertainment purposes, I do that.

If a newbie tries to learn from demo account, they will not realize how risky it would be, and they could get lucky with the demo account by taking bigger risks than they should, and they may try that with real money and end up with nothing at all. I hope to make sure that we are dealing with something that is taking a long time, and I do not really feel like I am dealing with something so hard here, demo is just fake money, stay away from it as a learning purpose.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: doomloop on March 11, 2025, 08:19:21 PM
Trading losses are a prerequisite for trading.
It is normal but I think it is possible to profit without losing first. It can be because we are well prepared but if not, we are only lucky.

Most traders get involved in trading crypto knowing that they will inevitably face losses.
Huh? That's crazy but I think it was the other way around. They get involved thinking they can get rich quick here. They can even forget about losing but some are aware with it and some get scared that they didn't proceed at all but some still proceed thinking it is only normal and they will only risk small amounts at first, so that it won't be damaging to them.

However, if you can master some things, it is possible to greatly reduce trading losses, such as controlling emotions and controlling excessive greed.
Why some only and not all? That way we can't only reduce our losses but we might prevent them totally at most times. Emotions and greed are seem connected with each other and I think there are occasions that they are beneficial like it allows us to earn more than usual, only because we push more. That is better if we also stop eventually because there is no way that we can earn continuously or unlimitedly at one go.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: BitcoinAI.Pro on March 11, 2025, 08:56:41 PM
At least 99% traders lose money after 3-5 years trading. I trade Bitcoin with my AI model ( you can copy me free if you wish ), but not easy at all to reach a good trading system/model.


Title: Re: Trading and losing
Post by: WeedGoW on March 12, 2025, 06:09:34 AM
I read your post very well I understand about trading. If these steps you have highlighted are a trader trading starts by maintenance, he will certainly do something good. Trading will have risks so it is very important to decide how much risk you take per trade. Usually a trader does not risk more than one to two percents of his account. How much risk you take will depend on you. Attitude in trading is very important to reduce people’s pressure at bad times and focus on long-term planning.