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Economy => Auctions => Topic started by: kujoking7 on December 21, 2011, 09:08:20 AM



Title: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 21, 2011, 09:08:20 AM
Shipping only in the U.S. Auction ends Thursday at 6pm PST

One 1991 Encased/uncirculated 1991 USO silver dollar

Start the bidding at 1btc
https://i.imgur.com/Dgx3r.jpg


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: jduck1987 on December 21, 2011, 02:53:49 PM
Can you post a picture of the actual coin and a note with your username so that we can verify you have the coin?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: jduck1987 on December 21, 2011, 03:00:47 PM
Also is this the "S" Mint mark Proof or not?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on December 21, 2011, 03:34:38 PM
1


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 21, 2011, 06:41:38 PM
It has the S mark
Here are the pictures of it:
https://i.imgur.com/bIXHp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mYbsr.jpg


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: c0ffer on December 21, 2011, 07:11:02 PM
1.5BTC




Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: SgtSpike on December 21, 2011, 07:15:15 PM
2 BTC.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 21, 2011, 07:52:51 PM
Current bid 2 btc


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kgo on December 21, 2011, 08:54:28 PM
3 BTC


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kgo on December 21, 2011, 08:54:52 PM
Does the price include shipping?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: Rejinx on December 21, 2011, 08:57:52 PM
if shipping is included... 3.5btc


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 22, 2011, 07:44:37 AM
Price includes shipping, current bid is 3.5btc


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: jduck1987 on December 22, 2011, 02:41:50 PM
4 BTC


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 22, 2011, 06:23:07 PM
current bid 4btc


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: c0ffer on December 22, 2011, 08:38:02 PM
4.1BTC



Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 22, 2011, 09:10:47 PM
Current bid at 4.1 btc


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: jduck1987 on December 22, 2011, 10:09:17 PM
4.2


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 22, 2011, 10:21:26 PM
current bid 4.2 btc


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: digital on December 22, 2011, 10:50:58 PM
5 btc


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 22, 2011, 11:15:40 PM
current bid 5btc


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: c0ffer on December 23, 2011, 12:02:17 AM
6BTC



Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 23, 2011, 12:12:15 AM
6 btc in the lead


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on December 23, 2011, 12:23:50 AM
6.5


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 23, 2011, 12:46:23 AM
6.5 btc in the lead


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: ForceField on December 23, 2011, 01:59:57 AM
6.7 BTC


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 23, 2011, 02:18:12 AM
6.7 btc in the lead


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on December 23, 2011, 02:25:57 AM
6.8 ???


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 23, 2011, 02:32:18 AM
6.8 btc in the lead


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: btc_artist on December 23, 2011, 02:41:31 AM
Is the coin 1 oz of 99.99% silver?  If so, and if the auction is not over, I bit 6.9 BTC.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: c0ffer on December 23, 2011, 03:07:44 AM
I think it ended a little while ago. If not I'll go 7 ;)




Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 23, 2011, 03:19:31 AM
Highest bid 7 (Sorry for misunderstanding mistype on my part scheduled to end Monday at 6pm. PST)


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: btc_artist on December 23, 2011, 03:52:33 AM
Highest bid 7 (Sorry for misunderstanding mistype on my part scheduled to end Monday at 6pm. PST)
Woah, ok, that changes everything.  Thanks for letting us know.

Also, what is the weight and composition of the coin?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 23, 2011, 03:55:28 AM
Highest bid 7 (Sorry for misunderstanding mistype on my part scheduled to end Monday at 6pm. PST)
Woah, ok, that changes everything.  Thanks for letting us know.

Also, what is the weight and composition of the coin?

https://store.nwtmint.com/product_details/3186/1991_S_U.S.O._Proof_Silver_Dollar/

There is composition of coin^
:)


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: btc_artist on December 23, 2011, 03:56:59 AM
Highest bid 7 (Sorry for misunderstanding mistype on my part scheduled to end Monday at 6pm. PST)
Woah, ok, that changes everything.  Thanks for letting us know.

Also, what is the weight and composition of the coin?

https://store.nwtmint.com/product_details/3186/1991_S_U.S.O._Proof_Silver_Dollar/

There is composition of coin^
:)
Ok, thanks. That's what I wanted to know.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on December 23, 2011, 05:14:56 AM
Wait what?? You did not like the ending price of the auction so you will keep it going? Can you do that?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: c0ffer on December 23, 2011, 12:39:48 PM
He could do that but then he would undermine any confidence people would have in future auctions.

This is a tricky one because the end time was not stated in "board time" so people need to convert the time zones and it's confusing.

Add a "mistype" for the ending time after a flurry of bidding and some bidders may start to question the outcome.

If my bid was behind the original end time of the auction I will stick to my bid. If my bid is after the original ending time then I will not be bidding further since I was under the impression this auction ended at a time that was different from when it is now supposed to end.



Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on December 23, 2011, 12:50:46 PM
6.7 BTC

This guy won the auction. If he is not able to buy the coin I would like to ask the admins if this is considered a scam by the forum rules. The time was clearly stated. I looked up the timezone and I bet Vitaliy did as well...  He was 3 seconds before the end.

A mistype noticed days after is in my book some BS...


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on December 23, 2011, 01:01:03 PM
I bid 1000 BTC btw...   

(I did not double check this so I might have mistyped something... I am sure OP will understand...)


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: smickles on December 23, 2011, 01:10:15 PM
I bid 1000 BTC btw...   

(I did not double check this so I might have mistyped something... I am sure OP will understand...)
Hey, surely you are right here, but I don't think there's a need for this sort of post. Wouldn't it be better for the community, you reputation, your business, if you kept this sort of thing out of the auction forum?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: c0ffer on December 23, 2011, 01:17:36 PM
6.7 BTC

This guy won the auction. If he is not able to buy the coin I would like to ask the admins if this is considered a scam by the forum rules. The time was clearly stated. I looked up the timezone and I bet Vitaliy did as well...  He was 3 seconds before the end.

A mistype noticed days after is in my book some BS...

Thank you for doing the timezone math ;)



Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on December 23, 2011, 01:35:57 PM
I bid 1000 BTC btw...   

(I did not double check this so I might have mistyped something... I am sure OP will understand...)

I am very happy with my reputation.

Thank you.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: btc_artist on December 23, 2011, 03:03:54 PM
That's my take on it as well.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: SgtSpike on December 23, 2011, 05:16:47 PM
Highest bid 7 (Sorry for misunderstanding mistype on my part scheduled to end Monday at 6pm. PST)
Original post says it ends Thursday 6PM PST.  And you meant to type Monday?  ???


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on December 23, 2011, 05:21:11 PM
Highest bid 7 (Sorry for misunderstanding mistype on my part scheduled to end Monday at 6pm. PST)
Original post says it ends Thursday 6PM PST.  And you meant to type Monday?  ???

He was off a letter, I mean 5 BTC....


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kgo on December 23, 2011, 06:59:24 PM
Is the coin 1 oz of 99.99% silver?  If so, and if the auction is not over, I bit 6.9 BTC.

For the record, all silver commemorative dollars from the US mint are 'coin' silver (90% silver) and have about total of ~ 0.77 ozt of silver.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kgo on December 23, 2011, 07:08:17 PM

Yeah, this is bogus.  I really suggest the OP should step up, apologize, and retract the change.

A coin like this is pretty much worth the melt value only, and as the original auction date neared its end the price basically shot up to melt value + small premium + shipping.  This is what usually happens in coin auctions.  The price isn't going to go up significantly.



Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: btc_artist on December 23, 2011, 07:38:09 PM
The coin is approx. 3/4 oz of silver, so at current silver prices (~$30/oz) it's worth about $23, which is currrently about 6 BTC ($3.85/BTC).


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on December 24, 2011, 07:12:27 AM
Even if I had won the auction I do not think I would trust the seller to ship it at this point anyway.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 24, 2011, 08:39:07 AM
Thanks Goat :) I'll remember you're kindness later on :P

Vitaliy wins with 6.7 btc, no problem sorry for the confusion created on my behalf.



Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on December 24, 2011, 08:40:18 AM
Thanks Goat :) I'll remember you're kindness later on :P

Vitaliy wins with 6.7 btc, no problem sorry for the confusion created on my behalf.



Lol stupid me, your*** 14 hour work days aren't good for the mind :(


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: ForceField on December 24, 2011, 09:47:50 PM
This guy won the auction. If he is not able to buy the coin I would like to ask the admins if this is considered a scam by the forum rules. The time was clearly stated. I looked up the timezone and I bet Vitaliy did as well...  He was 3 seconds before the end.

A mistype noticed days after is in my book some BS...

That's correct, I looked this up to be sure since there's a few hours difference in EST.

Even if I had won the auction I do not think I would trust the seller to ship it at this point anyway.

I have been notified by kujoking7 as being the winner.

Considering the "misunderstanding mistype" in this auction, I will go through with my bid if he agrees to send first.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on December 25, 2011, 06:00:12 AM
Sounds reasonable.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: ForceField on January 21, 2012, 09:22:38 PM
Update:
After I won, OP told me that this was 'supposedly' shipped on the week of 12/26/2011.
One month has passed and no coin has been received.
kujoking7 what is the status of this, can you provide a tracking number?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on January 22, 2012, 03:50:54 AM
Update:
After I won, OP told me that this was 'supposedly' shipped on the week of 12/26/2011.
One month has passed and no coin has been received.
kujoking7 what is the status of this, can you provide a tracking number?

There are about 10 threads now calling this guy a scammer. Did you pay in advance?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kujoking7 on January 22, 2012, 03:54:47 AM
Update:
After I won, OP told me that this was 'supposedly' shipped on the week of 12/26/2011.
One month has passed and no coin has been received.
kujoking7 what is the status of this, can you provide a tracking number?

There are about 10 threads now calling this guy a scammer. Did you pay in advance?

No he didn't pay in advance, and sorry but I sold it to a friend.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: senbonzakura on January 24, 2012, 10:57:01 PM
Vitaliy didnt you also win 100$ apple gift card for 30$ ?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: senbonzakura on January 24, 2012, 10:57:37 PM
Vitaliy didnt you also win 100$ apple gift card for 30$ ? did u get it ?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: kgo on January 25, 2012, 02:42:49 AM
Update:
After I won, OP told me that this was 'supposedly' shipped on the week of 12/26/2011.
One month has passed and no coin has been received.
kujoking7 what is the status of this, can you provide a tracking number?

No he didn't pay in advance, and sorry but I sold it to a friend.

So you just lied to Vitaliy?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: grue on January 25, 2012, 02:47:37 AM
not surprising, considering he lied about his loan payments.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: El Cabron on January 25, 2012, 07:09:12 AM
What am I missing, why does this guy not have a scammers tag?


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: Maged on January 25, 2012, 04:58:13 PM
What am I missing, why does this guy not have a scammers tag?
Because the investigation is ongoing.


Title: Re: 1991 Encased USO Silver Dollar
Post by: ForceField on January 25, 2012, 09:08:17 PM
Vitaliy didnt you also win 100$ apple gift card for 30$ ?

That is correct. I have won two auctions on these forums and neither seller honored their part of the transaction.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55273 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55273)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56275 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56275)

IMO, this Auctions forum needs to have a rule set up by a Moderator that gives the scammer label to people who do these kind of things.