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Welcome to CoinLearn.org (http://www.coinlearn.org/?r=14gBVQPp96w2quyjEGGf9zoDokRzrbTT4g) and BestHostFree.com (http://besthostfree.com?aid=MTkyMzI3MTgyNjI2MjI=) referral signature campaign !!!

Rules of the campaign :-

- Participant will earn 0.0006 BTC per constructive post (I will check it)

- Starting from Jr. Member anyone can join the campaign

- Participants are not allowed to have negative trust

- Campaign will last for 45 days (April 1, 2014 to May 15, 2014) and all participants will be paid on May 17, 2014

- Participants may join any time within this 45 days span

- Participants may have other links in their signature, but signature should start with my code

- Following code is to be used by all participants except Jr. Members


- Following code is to be used by Jr. Members. If the Jr. Member gets upgraded to Member at the time of campaign, he/she has to change the code as above and post 'code changed due to upgradation' in this thread


- After you add the code in your signature space, apply in following format (Please do not edit this original post. For any mistake, delete and re-post.)


- On May 16, 2014 post your total number of constructive posts since you joined the campaign


Note 1: Please do not ask questions regarding the businesses, I am not the owner.

Note 2: Continuation of the campaign is dependent on the result I receive in this 45 days and the bitcoin price at that time. Even if it continues, you need to register again.

Payment after 3 months + your new account is why this campaign won't succeed.

i agree!

you should change the payment method, maybe every 15 days or monthly maybe?

in this case im afraid that no one will take your offer
i suggest pay upfront or use an escrow for this
3 months is a very long time how would people trust you?
and for example can you pay 5btc on each member that would take your offer lets say 20 of them
so you will need 100BTC to pay all your worker

Not that I myself am interested in this, but would you be willing to use an escrow for this? Could you provide some proof that you actually have the money?
I mean, really, a new account and the payment in three months isn't exactly trustworthy.

I think, only with deadliest kind of SPAM attack one can reach 5 BTC in 3 months. Here is a calculation...

5 BTC / 0.0004 BTC = 12500 posts

3 months = 90 days

125000 / 90 = 138.888888889

If one can make 138 constructive posts per day for next 90 days, I would request them NOT to join my campaign.

why hold payments for 3 months..! and if you want to hold payments for 3months I'll suggest you to use an escrow so that members will take lil interest in your campaign.

i'll only put 5 btc for example

NO ONE can do that, dont worry!

It seems my newbie status and 3 months span are going against the campaign popularity. So I am thinking about restructuring it to 45 days. But if I reduce the time span, I dont think a flat rate for all members will be anymore possible. I'll work out and update all of you soon.

p.s. Please do not PM me regarding your questions. It is better to solve queries in public because your solution may apply to others too...

I'd be interested but you need to prove you own enough btc to pay out and I'd be happy with that.

definitely  interested! but like everyone else i want to know you have the funds! could you show an address with the BTC in it? also why not weekly payouts!? you'll be sure to gather participants and trust that way!

You just have to take the chance. Report back for us lol.

Would you be able to sign a message from an address with a sizable amount of BTC in it to prove that you actually have the ability to pay out after 3 months? Three months is a long time - I'm doubtful you'll find anyone who will take you up on this deal unless you shift the payout times.

3 months does not provide comfort
Use escrow or pay more frequently

He said he's working on some kinda solution in b/w ..! like shorting the time period to 45days or something like that..! lets see what the updates are.!

i think much better if he do upfront and pay the remaining by the end of the campaign

No member will join your sig campaign. Here are the maths:

for that he has to change the format from pay per post to pay weekly or monthly according to his requirements but I don't think he's up for that.

i think he needs to if he want someone to join his campaign he need to pay upfront or use an escrow
paying upfront will be good i think but 3 months is a very long time if he diesnt use any method of payment atleast people will be sure about this campaign

ahh ronhearner and Jody are the same, I see your not a bright girl

wow zolace are you stalking me dear?  :-*
where did you get that idea that me and rohnearner is the same? or are you really desperate to prove something for your self?

Hmm. I also agree with others that an upfront payment along with a 30 day payout + tiered payment scheme is the best

Yeah man you are right..! how do you know :P did the shit you are smoking all day tell you that.? as I told you earlier if you want to know me, just send me a PM or add me on skype ;) and I repeat none of the accusation you are making make any sense :p just all pure BS.

It is almost decided that the time frame will be taken down to 45 days. But the main problem I am having now is accommodating 2 links for Jr. Members. For Jr. Members there is a character limitation rule on the board. To accommodate in that limitation, I changed the links using goo[dot]gl URL shortener. But the board is automatically parsing this as Suspicious Link !!! Do anyone of you have any idea which URL shortener service is allowed on BitcoinTalk ?

I think they'll all do that.

You'll also probably have to put money in escrow for more than a few people to join this deal.

Most of the url shorten services you'll use will be market spam or suspicious links because if they allow those services anyone can share any link who know whether it is phishing link or something else.! And Hilariousandco is correct you'll need an escrow service if you want to pay you can use an escrow service to earn some kinda credibility.!

my gosh  wait 45 days for pay is kinda reminding me of mtgox,  no offence to the op

Do u use escrow. Having to wait 3 mths is risky

Go through the thread..! I think he shorted the Period to 45days but still too long..! that too without an escrow.

lol sounds like a scam.

What is this a "no pay no cure" contract?

that is why we suggest to OP to change the payment method either pay upfront or use escrow for this :)

hope op make some changes in this post and basically in payment days ! hope we all guys enjoy with this signature promotion

nahh ritz pay more better than this
we only give suggestion to op to make it more clearer and give chance to others :)

I think, I have managed the URL shortener for Jr. Members. If anyone finds that their signature links are not working, please immediately report to me. Signatures without working link will not be accepted for payment.

I have updated the opening post with new rate, time period and code.

I wont go for any upfront payment as it does not cover my risk to get robbed. I have no negative trust/feedback as of yet in the forum. So i dont see any reason to use an escrow either...

You don't have any positive either. If you're legit then there should be no problem using escrow and you'll then get a lot of interest. If you don't use one you'll get very few people taking you up on this, and those that do are foolish.

I would like to join, don't even mind a lower rate than what you are offering. Most people here would need some assurance that you will pay.

OP we may be dead in May, have mercy on us  ;D

Ah, so all you're trying to do is spam your referral links all over for free? Nice try.

I doubt you can even prove you have any money to payout.

Then how can you prove that you are trustworthy?

you dont have a bad rep but you are not either a reputable person in this community? how can all those person trust you that you are going to pay them after 45 days?

So updating the post has made me untrustworthy ? OMG !!! I wish I knew I'm gonna deal this before I started the campaign... But as I have started, I'll keep it on till May 15, 2014. Those who want may join at their will...

so its gonna be a "hold on till may thing"
anyway goodluck OP for your campaign hope that it will work here

You are untrustworthy unless you prove otherwise. And that is the case for everyone, not just you.

I must say the new rates are too tempting but 45days time period with no escrow and OP's Jr. member status raises concern..! but i'll keep an eye..!

ok what the heck...

i'll give it a try

Starting post count: 100
Bitcoin address: 19dngbJAsFv741xFvcnc8gMX9oQaWhruP5
Activity: 56
Position: Jr. Member

As others have already pointed....45 days hold off is a huge period. You say the campaign might be cancelled anytime owing to factors out of your control. Would you pay out people on the basis of how much time they run your campaign before you stop this(in case you do)?

There's always one... ::)

Not bad. How long have you been In Business?

yep, why not?

unfortunately i am not a full member yet so i can use the primedice sig

Because you're not going to get paid. All this user wants you to do is spam his referral link all over for free in the hope he'll get some commission. The referral fees amount to pittance and wont even cover the price of one post, so he's not going to pay you.

Welcome to the campaign... Thank you for trying against the tide.

By the way, your starting post count will help me to count your total no. of posts easily. :)

a bit of a long period..

If i was starting a signature campaign my first payment period would be only 1 week just so I can prove I'm legit
perhaps 4x 1 week payments and afterwards when people gain confidience raise the bar to 1 month payments ;)

if you want people to promote your sites in thier sig,



you should say after 2 weeks you will pay them 0.0003 for the # of posts they have made to date right now



and that you will pay the 0.0003 for those posts after the 45 days are up.


that way people will gain trust, and will start posting more for you.

May be OP is riding on the fact that no one will complete the full 45 day period because other sig campaigns are too tempting. If on one completes the full period, OP will not need to pay out anything and he will get free advertising?

I think they could, my estimate is about 12 hours a day of posting.    If they can type fast maybe less but considering they must put thought behind each post then perhaps not and for example this post took me less then 30 secs but I was figuring in 5 mins per post  [30 secs to type/write but I had to read thread hence ~ 5 mins]

i guess we must stop now to suggest since OP is only ignoring all our suggestion to her to make her campaign to work out and to look more legit :)
good luck OP

Haha, good luck with this campaign. Offer is too good to be true, the payments are delayed 45 days, no escrow in sight. Gl hf!

I've colected min threshold from coinlearn and didnt get payed still.. that was about a month ago.

You should pay daily for now, after couple days you can pay weekly, then monthly this would make you trustworthy!

Its good if u plz ask it on their thread => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435257.0

I have just one question to OP , are you hired by someone to Manage this Campaign, or you are directly involved with sites promoted in campaign ..!

i have a question to OP also... why wont you directly answer any questions? im calling scam on this one unless OP follows this...

I guess u got me a little wrong. I think u r referring to the following...


It does not mean campaign may be cancelled without payment before 45 days. It means I'll have the right to review it after 45 days to continue or discontinue this campaign. I mentioned it because most of the other campaigns on this board keep rolling automatically.

He's not answering questions because he's not looking to seem legitimate, only hoping people will be stupid enough to fall for it.
That's why he's including Jr. Members, as they're currently all over the place looking for sig campaigns.

Is it worth a try?

Some members could easily post over 100 non-spam in 40 odd days. That will mean a 0.06 btc payout for one member. Imagine 2 or 3 members posting... Will OP receive enough referral fee to payout?  ::)

not much signature campaigns are ok with members with negative trust and i  don't think its an exceptions although the campaign itself is in questions..!

I want to participate!

Starting post count: 85
Bitcoin address:
1Pktp5gCfi44WhNwgZV7oCtMMiWuJ8cwEA
Activity: 42
Position: Jr. Member

If you'll read the Rules mentioned by OP once again you'll realize that you can't join it..! better negotiate with the person gave you negative trust first.!
Rules of the campaign :-

- Participant will earn 0.0006 BTC per constructive post (I will check it)

- Starting from Jr. Member anyone can join the campaign

- Participants are not allowed to have negative trust

- Campaign will last for 45 days (April 1, 2014 to May 15, 2014) and all participants will be paid on May 17, 2014

- Participants may join any time within this 45 days span

- Participants may have other links in their signature, but signature should start with my code

why not rob? this campaign is also unknown if legitemate or not as op is avoiding some questions and ignoring all the suggestion

yeah that is a whole different  point of conversation..! but even if he applies for signature the OP will have a point to not to pay him.!

well its all up to them maybe OP will accept him because only a few people have interest in his campaign

OP probably doesn't care as he still gets his referral links spread, but it doesn't matter since he's not going to pay. It's obvious what's happening here to anyone who isn't a dunce.

let us see after 45 days if all the members that sign up will get screw or not plus i bet thise jr will quit in this program once they've reach the member status which will happen a few days from now

I contacted who gave me negative feedback but he never answered only gave a negative feedback without any proof or conversation!

hmm no one will trust you if you just create your id and post in currency exchange section..! because that is what most of the scammers do..!

I don't know why you say this because i have only about 10 post in currency exchange section from my all 86 post...

And of course if i'm a scammer and want to rob other people's money why i want to participate in signature contests?
And my negative trust is not because i scammed anybody only somebody said that i'm alt of an other account without any proof...

the only thing you can do is show T.M that he is wrong by putting a red mark in your account by doing some good things here in the forum fair and square and be honest

I never said you are scammer and yeah I saw why you got negative trust..! But i was just giving you a helpful suggestion..! that avoid exchanging when you are newbie No one will trust you and many will think that you are just a scammer this is what exactly happened in your case even if you didn't had any such intentions . 

Yes i know it!
But when i joined i didn't realize that they will leave negative feedback only because i'm posting in currency exchange section!
But thanks for advices!

I'm in this way!
My goal is to be a senior or hero member in the future and participate in signature contests because they are paying very well!

And about this sig campaign I'll suggest you to talk to OP before taking part in campaign , whether he'll pay you or not..! 

Yes i know that this campaign is not the most trusted but i didn't find other that allows Jr.Members so i give it a try!

Its not about if the campaign is trusted or not..! even if they payout i'll quite skeptical they will pay you, because in their rules they has mentioned that they will not accept members with negative trust..! so thats why i'm requesting you to talk to OP first..!

I have contacted her but didn't get answer yet!

You've best get rid of that feedback then because the bigger sig deals wont let people with bad/red trust in.


Him. Another red flag. 99.9% of people claiming to be a female on here are not and are also scammers.

hmm half the females all over the internet are actually male :P thats the ugly truth..! but Female id's grab a lot more attention than male ids , Sadly this is how the advertisement and marketing industry works ..!

They usually claim to be female because stupid idiot men are more susceptible to trust or fall for a scam if they think they're dealing with a woman. It very rarely works on here but there's a lot of idiots about.

It must be a scam!
I contacted her more than 26 hours ago but still no answer!
He was online today so simply she don't want to answer my questions!

Is that what gave it away? ;D And again, Him ;D.

I wonder why on earth I have to reply to every single people PMing me for upfront payment and clarify rules which I have clearly stated on board !!! Moreover, before running this campaign, I have already been cheated (can not prove, so not demanding anything) by people, who took upfront payment from me and ran away. The trust system on the board is so funny, that I cant even give them -ve trust !!!

its just because these people are trying to get some money on this forum you have to prove that your campaign is legit also so people in here wont bothering you
do you think people will gamble their time for as long as 45 days only to gind out that they will not get paid in the end im sure you will also do the same if someone post a campaign like you have post on here

And many people have been cheated on by non-paying sig deals. You don't have to pay up front, but either pay after a week or so or put the money with a trusted escrow to gain faith and trust in yourself. Otherwise, people are going to be sceptical and probably not sign up, but this is all irrelevant anyway.

Why do people bother responding to this guy? Clearly he's not serious enough to use an escrow, he's not even responding to that suggestion. He's only saying he's gotten scammed with upfront payments, but avoiding to tell us why he refuses escrow. :)

Nobody registered? It wasn't for 3months but 45days until May 15 right?

well for the fact they dont login daily is another red flag to me, I guess people should be warry

Hah, self moderated topic aswell. Gee wiz, this is getting more and more laughable.

Starting post count: 45
Bitcoin address: 1FU7ezb4HnFMoDESicTKvaUDPdiQAdVrji
Activity: 42
Position: Jr. Member

You're wasting your time. This was/is a scam. The op hasn't even logged on since the 17th of April. He just wants you to spam his referral link everywhere for free.


I don't know why he bothered making it a self-moderated thread. He never deleted any of my posts repeatedly calling this an outright scam.

I don't know why he bothered making it a self-moderated thread. He never deleted any of my posts repeatedly calling this an outright scam.

He never delete your any post because he never came back here for this he need some referral clicks from this thread and many already done this for him  :D

He was here often and throughout when I was calling him out and he never deleted anything.

0.0006/post for Jr Members was an excellent rate, I wonder how many members fell for it, we should CoinLearn.org and BestHostFree.com to tell them to ban him if they didn't already

is it too late for the start

Beware

So I'm wasting my time with this?

I believe you are. OP has not logged in for a long time. If he is serious about this campaign, he would log in to confirm participants. I think this is a scamming sig campaign right from the start.

OP : "Last Active:   April 17, 2014, 08:58:27 AM"

The link in the sig is a ref link

Read the rest of the thread from the beginning and make your own mind up, but it's quite clear he had no intention of paying, nor would it've even be profitable for him to do so. All he wanted people to do was collect some extra dust from his referral link commissions.

Thanks people newbie here trying get some coins.

Why dont we all report this thread and get it removed, basically it was a scammer trying to get free advertising.  And everyone keeps chatting on a thread thats no longer active

Mods don't act on scams and probably wont do anything about this thread, but people should just forget about this  and stop bumping it.

It's amazing that this thread has been around for as long as it has given that this was obviously not kosher

See above. We can all make it quickly go away by not bumping it again though  ;).

True, it was bumped then everyone gives his idea of the deal or warn newbies that it is probably a sc.am

I reported the thread saying OP was AOK for 20days

You're free to report them but you might end up getting a bad report. They don't really act on stuff like this or even lock threads as far as I'm aware.

I didn't report for sc.amming because I have no proof but I reported for being AOK while running a campaign because I have the proof OP has not logged in since April 17

Damn, thought I had found a signature campaign I could join. Why is this thread still open?

Just let mods close it up to avoid confusion. Not everyone reads all previous post in thread. This is clearly too suspicious to be let open.