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Recently, in the year 2024, the brazilian government saw a large source of money coming into online casinos (since physical casinos are prohibited by law), and since then, so as not to make this post too long... the brazilian government had the "brilliant" idea of requiring that any casino that wanted to operate in brazil would have to regularize itself and follow the country's rules, or its website would be blocked.

As a result, users are preferring to use unregulated casinos (they access the casino website outside of brasil via VPN or other methods) and are able to get better and more attractive odds than regulated casinos that pay high taxes to the government... as these pass on the costs of taxation, licensing, etc. to users, while unregulated casinos don't need to pass on additional costs and for this reason are more attractive to users because they offer better odds!

This just shows that no government in the world understands the internet and how it works. The internet exists for this reason (it was originally created for this). In cases of government censorship, the internet is a communication protocol that is resistant to any type of censorship. Even though some casinos are banned from being accessed by brazilians, it is still possible to get around this ban via VPN and the like.

Just as I thought... when there are so many online casinos operating under loose regulations, countries that ban online gambling end up making policies that are, well, pretty silly and easy to bypass. There really needs to be global cooperation among all the licensing providers to make sure only authorized casinos are allowed. If casinos from banned countries slip through, it means the whole system isn’t working.

Under the current setup, it seems this country has no choice but to revise its laws. They should allow citizens to access online gambling and let casinos operate legally under proper regulations. That way, people won’t have to use VPNs to get around restrictions, making everything safer. And, the government would benefit from the tax revenue. In the end, it could be a win-win for everyone involved.

I see advertisements for regulated casinos here, both on open TV and on the internet, they puff out their chests to say that "we are a regulated casino", as if this were an advantage... this keeps me away more than it attracts anything, political imprudence is inverting what is really advantageous or disadvantageous, distorting the entire understanding of how an economy works in very regularized environments.

It's the same thing in other countries and you don't even need to use VPNs, usually you can circumvent DNS restrictions from the authorities by just using DNS-over-HTTPS features from browsers or operating systems. But even if citizens are able to find ways to get around restrictions, unlicensed foreign casinos are still not allowed to make any advertising in the said country. And if something bad happens with the casino, like any scam from the casino, it will be very hard to be able to get back anything.  

Yeah very well in most countries around the world, online casinos and gambling sites are hardly in regulatory compliance each of the government's hostile approaches to the regulation of online gambling sites is left for those casino users to easily abuse regulatory laws if their fines are a way to do that.

Vpn usage and other manipulative practices by some smart gamblers who become abusers of such regulatory lipholes

VPN is just a tool that is built to help people in this type of situation and also to protect your privacy a little bit. The only thing here is just that using a VPN for casinos that are against VPN usage might result in the player losing everything when detected. From the government, you won't have any issue as you have bypassed their restrictions, but the casino can always take advantage of such users.

It's pretty normal since only regulated casinos are allowed to advertise those kinds of offers. However, the country's decision to ban online casinos is really off the mark. By doing so, citizens are forced to turn to unregulated sites, which puts them at a much higher risk. If someone gets scammed on one of these shady sites, there's no government to back them up because they're technically breaking the law by accessing these platforms.

In other words, the ban might seem like a protective measure, but it ends up pushing people into riskier waters.

It depends on how strictly the government enforces the law. If using a VPN is illegal and they crack down, you could get into serious trouble. Also, if you win big, the casino might block your account or pull a selective scam since you're already breaking the rules and have no way to complain.

On the other side, casinos care about profits. They might overlook VPN use as long as the money keeps flowing, keeping their reputation intact. So it's a trade-off between legal risks and the fact that casinos really just want your cash.

In as much as the internet also makes provision for all of the options to explore to start your way around  restrictions such as this, we should  not fail to remember that there are consequences which could  be a huge problem to us at some point if we continue with such bypass,  the task and levies on this casinos  and the gamblers at some coube high and outright the advantage remains that you still get some advantages which you don't when using the unregulated casinos.

This is the risk you take when accessing casinos that aren’t regulated by your country. Most citizens know what they’re getting into and are willing to accept the risk as long as they can keep gambling. In other words, the government is just making a fool of itself. Their restrictions don't really work because people always find a way around them. Now, it seems like they're starting to regret their decision, as their actions are falling flat.

I want to believe that as long as there's a way to evade any sort of ban or country-wide website lockup, people will always take that route. Could remember when X (formerly twitter) was banned in my country. Everyone just installed VPNs and life went on.

The internet is moving towards a level that no one government can completely ban or keep their citizens away from a website or service. As long as there's a way to exploit it, 90% sure it would be exploited.

Doesn't matter, but at least the government is working

I'm a gambler, but seeing people who are gamblers are coming from a family who earn bellow average and don't have any good income. It's makes me sad, and follow or supported the government movement. IMO, any local people should be ban or making hard requirement to gamble. They could be accepted gambling or physical casino in brazils but with condition (local people, will have a hard time or restricted to gambling).

Meanwhile, focused on tourist not the local. Singapore have these rules, and is work (their citizen/people are not quite addicted about gambling).

As long as cryptocurrency is in operation and being used by casinos, there is little government the government can do to hinder the operation of casinos. The power of the government is limited to fiat payment systems and never cryptocurrency as has been demonstrated on several occasions. So, the will not be able to stop casinos that accept cryptocurrency because like you said, vpn and even the mobile app of casino that have app will render the effort of the authorities useless.

I think that when it comes to casinos, governments do what the majority of people would like to hear, not what's the most beneficial deal from the situation. It's financially worse to block casinos, especially online casinos because it's easy to download a VPN and bypass geolocational restrictions. If people won't be able to gamble on many popular crypto casinos, they'll be able to gamble on some like Freebitco and l0tt0.

Politicians who are in government don't understand how the internet works. In my country, they don't even understand how smartphones work, their teenage kids help them with their smartphones and they hire people to manage their social media channels. Politicians do most of these things in order to get votes for the next elections from people who value things like this over things that will be really the best solution to the problems. They did the same in my country too and it was a very stupid decision because now instead of local casinos, foreign online casinos are getting money from people.

It does have some result although it's not completely stop gambling that's why many governments did not ban gambling and make profit from those who created a casino either online, physical or both online and physical. You may say that it did not result in anything at least they did something even though it is not a complete success until they will find a way to make their aim achieve. In my country to be honest, there are still an illegal casino both physical and online that are seized by the government unless they let the government regulate the casino.

To me, every VPN user seems to think that they are smarter then everyone else, thinking that they have cracked the code. In brazil, i am sure it's normal that people haven't yet faced any consequences for their actions, because regulations are so new. But don't kid yourself that that wouldn't happen in the future.

Trusting unregulated casino is probably a bad idea. Eventually there will become a time where that casino gets to confiscate your cryptos. And it won't be a scam, even if you see it that way. They can always say that they are obligated by law to freeze your assets and no law will protect you, because you were the one breaking them by hiding your citizenship.

Another scenario is even when you get to withdraw the crypto, in the future with larger amounts, FATF is going to make spending it way more difficult. It might seem like a distant dystopia, but it's definitely happening.

You might feel untouchable now, but new regulations are slowly moving change and enforcing them will get more efficient in time. And when they do get efficient with it, you might need to retrospectively pay in many ways you were prepared to.

Let us admit the fact that gambling business will really give good revenue to the government. Besides, gambling is already innate to humans. So this is hard to eradicate in human's system. So whether the government will ban or not, gambling will continue to operate. Some of them will operate in the black market if their government will be strict about their business.


Playing on unregulated casinos have indeed repercussions. This is why most gamblers are confident if the site is licensed. Though the online gambling industry did not start having license. But now, to compete in this industry is to acquire also legit gambling license and of course, build the credibility and reputation as well.

Regulated casinos are for profit to the government and advantage to the people. The government makes money from the taxes they pay and the people are protected from those rogue unregulated casinos. The people can easily sue them for any bad practices. It also has the advantage of reducing gambling addiction to a certain level. Not everyone will be able to access these regulated casinos because those with illegal practices would have left and those that are regulated will because of their increase cost because unattractive to the gambler.

Even if I am not working in the government but still, I would do the same what the government did to earn money from casinos. As you have said, gambling is already innate to humans where people already gamble for many years which I am sure you are aware of it. Since it is hard to stop people from gambling, in my opinion is that the best solution as of now regarding gambling is to allow those who follow the rules set by the government and vice versa. If you ask me, it's kind of win-win since people can start a casino plus gamble and government receive good revenue from it.

Funny how they think they just made a very significant law that stops everyone yet they just fool themselves (Govt) every time I see some kind of news pass into bills especially when it comes to the internet I just laugh at those regulations because it holds no water.

Their is always a way even though it will cost us more but when you think people can't access things because you blocked it then they will show their talents. the internet is now broad we can't be held together.

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The Brazilian government only saw the light in their own favour for taxing but refused to see the other end of internet.

There are many governments in the world that are left behind by the advancement of technologies. It's also possible many governments just don't care. Or perhaps some of them simply underestimate the taxes lost because of unregulated online services.

The online economy is the largest in the world. In crypto alone, there are already billions of dollars at play with exchanges, lending and staking platforms, online gambling, and so on.

Failure to implement tight measures means a government misses on huge potential revenue. Global companies would easily exploit markets without paying any taxes, without being held accountable for their failures, freely preying on their citizens, and so on.

In the age of internet, governments should police their cyber territories more seriously.

Technology is constantly evolving, I'm afraid if they are going to use AIs for this laws to be implemented then all other casinos may just be blocked and non will be useful anyone even if we use VPNs.

However there are something to gain from this industry which will support the government for funding through taxes. So while they regulate advertising on casinos, they might as well regulate who are allowed to play which means there really is the necessary for government to monitor the lives of people from ages, the kind of jobs and most probably gender of those who are allowed to gamble.

I mean I don't blame them? Rather than outright banning it, might as well just regulate it and benefit from casinos existing under their regulation. And I'd imagine it'd be a lot worse anyway if they just banned it off since EVERYONE would look for outside casinos. In this case at least only a part, those who really want the bang for buck in ther casino experience when it comes to playing. Not faulting anyone here though, they just want the best for themselves.

Still, if the government really wants to prevent this, they have to prevent users from bypassing geoblocks at least. Sadly you'd hardly find professionals in the cyber sec field in government positions lol. Private companies just pay way more than them.

Gotta love the classic VPN by-pass! Its too bad these governments don't realize that they are giving up a nice chunk of crypto change if they would just allow it and ask for a small fee or something to freely operate in the region, i'm sure many casinos would pay a fee based on the winnings in a given region?

Getting a license in the country a casino wants to operate in the global standard. And paying taxes is not strange since the government needs the money to finance its projects.    

It will depend on the percentage of the tax. Gamblers will always invade tax if it is high. But they would always use regulated platforms if the tax is moderate. We shouldn't forget that there is a high risk in using unregulated casinos. Casinos that are not registered can engage in forms of unfair practices and get away with it.    

Some top government officials are not advised well. They don't consult the right professionals for sound technical advice. They should know that it is not possible to totally block access to the internet. There will always be means to bypass these restrictions. Therefore, instead of making stringent laws to push people to unregulated platforms, they should make less stringent laws.      

I see that in this area in some countries there are many stupid prohibitions. I have a feeling that national governments of some countries do not fully understand how the Internet works. The Internet erases borders and makes many national laws meaningless. We focus on laws, but we do not allow the thought that some national laws violate the natural rights of the population. I could ask: why does the government prohibit me from gambling? If my game is responsible and does not harm anyone in society, then it is quite strange to see prohibitions and restrictions. I think the Brazilian government could achieve higher tax collection if it showed more flexibility and if its policy was more liberal.

No, the government understands it. They can’t ban use of the internet however they could penalize people who would go against their regulations and use online casinos that are prohibited in the country. For some people, the threat of a punishment is enough to deter them away from ever using these online casinos. For those who aren’t afraid well the government can punish them as they fit so it’s still a win for them.

Something similar is happening in my country. The government is torn between the laws of "allowed" and "not allowed.". In addition, they have banned many VPN sites, but it isn't easy to shut off the water if there are other holes. In the times of the Internet, it is difficult to ban something completely. Maybe some will not bother to find other casinos, but others, having found a way to bypass these "rules," will continue everything as before. This is called "fighting windmills," and until a consensus is reached between the people and the government, there will be a fight for freedom of choice, no matter how much they want to ban it.

The government needs to learn more about Internet and how it works. Related to their regulation, they should modify it to works as the situation that happen in their country. The government can block the casino access in their country but their people will use other ways to visit the casino.

Their people will search for the casino and use VPN to give easiness to them to playing gambling. Their people know which casino that is out from their country so they will not have a problem to playing gambling on that casino.

Some of us do post about using VPN may not be good as it can lead to the gambling site ban the user because the user is accessing the gambling site from a restricted location or country but this is not 100% true. There are many offshore gambling sites that are truly not licensed and do not mind if their users use VPN. The users trust the gambling site as it gets older and having higher reputation. But as for me, I will still prefer to use a regulated gambling site which gives me peace of mind that my money is safe.

This usually happens when the government is way too proud and stern in their beliefs. Not thinking about the possible economic benefits of just regulating casinos instead of completely erasing its operations in the country. Many countries have lost their chances of taking advantage of the gambling industry.
Hence why even not so tech experts can easily find ways to bypass geoblocks. If they couldn’t hire tech employees then maybe they should have regulated casinos lol. They would make more money there.

One thing about those things is that the moment people no that there government has imposed a serious regulations for casinos to abide they always find it very unease to continue patronizing them, so instead other casinos out side the control of their government will be the ones they would be willing to gamble. Perhaps the Brazilian government was thinking that asides from those in their country people will no longer bet on others without knowing that there are so many online casinos outside Brazil may not even restrict their country even if they may not have a direct card deposit but will use crypto instead and they will not no that something like that is happening because it will be anonymous to them.

And do you have some numbers to back these claims up?

Users who are playing with a  VPN on a casino that is known to be banned in their country is just doing stupid shit, one KYC request and you might end with all your funds confiscated and you absolutely have nowhere to go! Oh, you can go to the police and say you have been using an unlicensed gambling website to bet, and now you want your money back!


Newsflash for you!
The internet was created by a government!
TOR network was developed by a government agency!
And no, it wasn't created for somebody to use a VPN in order to lose his money in another country on some stupid slot game!

Honestly, the Brazilian government is not doing a great job based on how they are making things hard for companies, especially in the crypto and casino space. With their habit, they are missing a lot of money they ought to have for developing the country, so there's no way people won't look for alternatives when the government is doing something that does not favor the masses.
I just hope the gamblers using VPN to access casinos use platforms like Casinopunkz which support the use of VPN so they won't lose their fund due to casino regulations.

No, they fully understand how the internet works. But they are doing things based on their political strategy.
If the internet is resistant to censorship. Why do we have it in China, and North Korea?

Personally for me, I feel that if a country bans physical casino or bookies but doesn't ban the online casino and doesn't provide a strict rules of penalty against anyone caught using the online casino, that means  the country didn't actually ban gambling.

Like you already said, the internet space makes it possible for people to do some things that the government might not actually be able to censor and detect everyone, but I think the government are  smart enough to know that online gambling is even converting billions of people compare to physical casinos. So, what is the essence of banning physical casino when people can still bet online?.

Do you know what annoys me the most?
The only reason for regularization was to raise money for government
Nothing, absolutely nothing, was done that was good for the casinos or the users, there were no measures taken by the government that benefited anyone other than revenue for them
It's hard to defend something like that

People will always look for the best casino service for them

Gambling online and offline is legal in our country, so gamblers don't need VPNs to access online casinos only if the platform restricts our country.
If gambling is illegal in one country and they restrict access, its up to the player to take the risk to access the online casino.
The majority of the casinos do not allow the use of VPNs to access the casino, so if your country restricts their people, there is nothing you can do but play at a casino that allows it.
We have to respect our government decision because there are laws and cultural considerations that government are implementing.

I didn't know that there were such restrictions to gambling in Brazil. In fact, I always thought that Curacao was there (great mistake, as I've just learned that it is a small island in the Caribbean :-[). It's never too late to learn, I suppose.


More than being scammed by a fraudulent website, what I'm thinking now is about the problems a Brazilian may have in the event that he wins a huge jackpot. What would happen with that money, even if he managed to get it into his bank account? Government could freeze it because it went from such a gambling service? or restrictions are only for service providers, but not for the national population?

You cannot demand, you can't do much if you are blocked and your gambling account is closed if you choose the VPN path, all your risks are responsible for yourself.

Indeed online casinos that do not have permission or those who have permits do not affect the community, especially gamblers, but you must know the risk of using VPN and gambling risk on the official website, maybe you don't have any problems if you win small But when you are in large quantities that's where the problem occurs, the point is if it does not seem to have an effect and has a real impact, but online casinos are always close to problems, both the internet or other things.

Likewise with the level of security produced by VPN Casino or Official, the problem occurs when problematic.

I think these regulations can sometimes be harmful if they are absurd. There needs to be a degree of flexibility in the casino-government relationship to maintain order. Generally, governments impose certain restrictions for the following reasons:

1. Fraud and money laundering.
2. Taxes: a foreign company should not come to a country and take a cut without paying taxes.
3. Control: governments always want and need to control.

Although these users may use alternative options to bypass these restrictions, they are assuming they are breaking the law, which gives the casino the power to freeze and seize your funds whenever they want and the government the authority to punish you.

I do regret that this is happening because of the lack of government support. All they want is money, let's not kid ourselves because that's the truth. They are crocodiles just waiting for the prey in their mouths and then eating it without any trouble.

What we can do? I think this had been the question that had been lurking in our minds ever since we learned that out country is trying the regulation method. I do want to play legally but the government is trying to kick us out because of their terms.
It's not about helping each other but becoming one. Most gamblers are playing the same thing but they want us to be divided because they think they can abuse us more without any help from other people. They are not wrong.
Hotline. That is what we need. Something or someone we can tell or rely on our problem so that it's easy for us.

But probably there is consequences ont hsoe who got fallout when they are discovered to using those unregulated casino related to taxation if in any case they have been discovered using it though? Yes we can use those unregulated but the problem is if we cash out money and got known for that, surely they have to ask something or will bargain out that is illegal you need to pay penalty or somehow huge amount of money for doing so.

I can't really blame their government, I mean, online casinos can pump a lot of money into a country and the Brazilian government saw an opportunity and took it. one country for example that took that opportunity too is the Philippines, they took advantage of that opportunity with POGO(Philippine Offshore Gaming Operator.) but in the end, it became a disaster because of corrupt officials and crimes related to POGO casinos.

When a government banned the use of casinos unless it comply their laws then casinos who don't follow should not accept users from that country and VPN is not an excuse because casino now asks for KYC to most users then they know that these people are from this region and should have them added into the list of banned countries. Government can loosen the laws to make things easier but I would not entirely blame the government here cause it's also the responsibility of people to follow the laws of a country.

Is it a good idea? We have to take into consideration that many casinos don't allow the usage of VPN by their users, so it can be easily used as an excused by casinos to deny a withdrawal or to ban the account of a jackpot winner right after he wins the bet. before deciding to deposit at a casino to play through a VPN, terms of the casino must be read or support must be contacted to find out if it's fine to use VPN or not.

In positive case, a printscreen of the terms and support chat must be taken, so it will be useful later as a proof in case the casino tries to create any issues for the gambler due to the VPN usage.

Regards the government, you can expect they are going to try regulating, raising taxes and creating new taxes on most activities as possible more and more each new day, as they are constantly thirsty for further income. Everything citizens can do to avoid paying such taxes is self-defense.

In my opinion, governments should not regulate organizations operating in the virtual space (including online casinos).

The virtual space is essentially a separate supranational digital territory. It is difficult to tie it to the jurisdiction of a separate state.

Online casino servers can be located in different countries, online casino clients can be residents of different states. Governments of states try to regulate everything, but it is more appropriate to recognize that not all organizations should be subject to their regulation. Perhaps this will require changes in national legislation, perhaps it will be necessary to amend the legislation on taxes and fees.

At the same time, it must be recognized that the current situation does not suit anyone. Neither online casinos, nor their clients.

People find ways to bypass blocking in the virtual space and the more such blocking there are, the more sophisticated the methods of bypassing them will be.

I have always believed that restricting and banning online casinos in a particular country just doesn't make sense. Online casinos are not like landbased casinos where the government can easily stop gamblers from going in to gamble. There are several ways people can bypass restrictions to still gamble on online gambling sites without the government knowing. Sometimes it gets me wondering if the government is dumb to realise this or they are acting dumb on purpose?

The best they can do is to make money from these casinos because whether they restrict these casinos or not, people will still gamble while the government becomes the loser at last.

I sincerely think that Brazilian citizens who use online casinos need to be very careful because the Brazilian government and the Brazilian justice system are relentless, they do not like to be contradicted and when they put this phrase in their heads: "Internet sites must respect the laws of Brazil", then we will see the Supreme Federal Court coming into play and will investigate all people who use online casinos that are not in compliance with the laws of Brazil.

We cannot concluded that the banning or regularization of some online casinos didn't work. Where is the evidence to prove and disprove this?

Let it be known that even if there is no ban or regularization of online casinos, people will still use VPN to access some casinos website, offshore casinos will still find a way to operate, and there are casinos that don't just serve customer that are in that country.

The government must publish the records for the public to read and know if their laws on online casino worked and what didn't know and how they can improved.

I don't see anything wrong with the Brazilian government deciding to regulate an online casino that wants to operate in this market. This should mean that laws have been adopted regulating this branch of entertainment in the country and, accordingly, thus guarantees the safety of users. But in any case, each player can decide for himself which casino is preferable for him, regulated or unregulated.

It's the same thing here. People still find ways to gamble illegally even though the POGOs here are banned and the government discourages gambling. Some text that promotes gambling is not yet gone, billboards promoting gambling are still there, and some annoying gambling ads are all over the internet. I don't usually gamble, but the algo in social media is ruined because of the promotions, and it shows that even if you lessen those major casinos in the center, we're still in the domain of those people operating the gambling platforms. Governments trying to control gambling through bans often fail because the internet and global financial systems make it too easy to bypass restrictions.

So it's still the same, nothing changes. Unless they fully banned it and fined them huge if they didn't obey the law. The problem here is politicians are also the ones who control these underground gambling schemes, so it won't stop.

The problem is that most of those who did bypass some restrictions or the other have mastered the act and can hardly get caught up in between because most of them have a pre-planned approach and are just following up with it, so if there can be any problem, it will come from the casino itself restricting their accounts and asking for verification before the account can be opened again, and this restriction will hardly happen since casinos are business centers and have the interest of the customers at hart in other to maintain steady flow of revenue.

This is a good point. When you are playing in these waters with the sharks sometimes they will surface you and then you are faced with a huge net in the form of a consequence from your government tax authority. IDK evasion of taxes is a federal offense where I am from. Now there are rules that you can abide by to limit your taxes and many of these rules are followed by the rich, i'm sure they also have a workaround for gambling and even making it a write off lmao. Who knows, I sure as heck wouldn't but honestly, I wish I did, just for educational purposes  ;)

Obviously none because if they were not being asked about KYC then there is no way of anyone knowing how many are actually involved in using unregulated casinos.
No, they didn’t.  “Government” didn't create the Internet and other vital technologies of the modern age of communications. They were created by gifted individuals such as Bob Taylor, Robert Kahn, Vint Cerf, Bob Metcalfe, Douglas Engelbart, Tim Berners-Lee, Ted Nelson, Marc Andreessen and Eric Bina. (https://techland.time.com/2012/07/25/how-government-did-and-didnt-invent-the-internet/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CGovernment%E2%80%9D%20didn't%20create,Marc%20Andreessen%20and%20Eric%20Bina.) The internet is not owned by the government either.

It would be helpful next time to read the entire article you quoted, just two lines below that


Internet predecessor, ARPANE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET)T was developed by the US Ministry of Defense. those "gifted" individuals were hired by the government to do it, if it weren't for them the army would have found others. Let's try to not re-write history, ok?
 

Yes, there’s no way to completely block any services online unless they fully regulate internet connection which is not gonna happened.

Although there’s a loop hole on the government security measure, Players is still taking a high risk on playing to unregulated casino since their account can be freeze due to the casino ToS or casino that operating wi5out any license can run away without any trace.

So it’s not really worth it to bypass country restrictions if you will consider the risk involved.

I don't think many people expected much from this... at least I didn't. Although the news from Brazil raised some dust at first, it seems like everything quickly faded into oblivion.

Banning and stricter laws don't help, I guess that's obvious... people always find a way to get what they want. At the same time, a lot of things are being pushed into the illegal/dark markets, which creates some other problems, in some cases very serious problems.

The Brazilian government's debate on regulating online casinos didn't begin until the substantial profits the gambling scheme brought into the country, accumulating about $1.5 billion in 2023 (https://www.idnow.io/blog/brazil-sports-betting-regulations-interview/). In a situation as this, government wants it better, by using the regulation to attract investors and as well protect citizens from getting problematic in the process. But, this is on the net, that's where things start hitting up, because citizens have other means of utilizing their gadgets to access casinos even when banned or regulated.

I'm sure that most politicians and government officials know, that gambling cannot be completely banned or regulated, but government regulations can limit the gambling industry to some extent. If a decent amount of Brazilian gamblers have stopped gambling, due to the new government regulations, then it's clear that this new policy provides results. The results might not be perfect, but there are results for sure.
Good luck with trying to use a foreign casino with a VPN without any problems. And also, good luck with trying to withdraw money from a foreign crypto casino, while using a VPN.

I think the government should have known better, that gamblers are more intelligent that them, and will have to find a way to circumvent the ban like using VPN or any other tools that will hide their true IP address.

So yeah, it's just another battle that the government are going to lose in the long end. And we all know that they can't ban the internet, unless they turn into a authoritative state that will control everything. In any case, gamblers still needs to be aware of this banning and regulations and should be careful as well.

Okay I guess I just misunderstood. My bad. But the creation of the internet can't be just attributed to the government or to just one person. Like other concepts, there have been overlapping researches and studies that have allowed them to progress forward hence why it can't be said that it is just because of one specific person.

I believe it is a contributed effort but I can acknowledge my mistake.

People are encouraged to cheat the government because of their unfair policies and restrictions. Of course, I won't say it is a good idea, but if we think this could give fairness, then I support it.

Indeed, the government doesn't consider how it affects people's lives like they own it. I understand their interest in doing this, but they also have to consider people who want to gamble. Because the more they become strict on gambling, the more people think they are abused and will find ways (illegal) to pursue their wants.

Here, a balance in regulation is simply necessary. For example, if the government clamps down too much on casinos, there will be fewer of them, but at the same time, players will not disappear completely, because there are always those who want to play. These people and casinos will simply create a gray market, will play as IP, create physical casinos that will be in basements or country houses, it will be extremely difficult to expose them. But at the same time, if you give too much freedom to gambling establishments, then all the streets of the city will be filled with advertising, people, the working class, students, old people will simply start playing and losing. This will become popular, as a result, cash flows will flow from the pockets of citizens to the pockets of casinos, I think it is bad when it has a very mass effect.

It’s easy to cheat if the government isn’t serious about the punishment. But if they enforce strict penalties, gamblers might think twice before breaking the law. However, with this gambling law, the government’s main goal is to increase its revenue. They want casinos to comply and be regulated, but some still operate outside the law because they can keep the same user base. This makes it a challenge for the government to effectively implement the law and actually achieve its goal, and in this case its still a question how.

Everything that is limited or arranged or regulated for legally simplification in order to be able to provide benefits for the government there is always a way to violate, we will see the VPN case even though the government blocks access but can still enter by using it and that is a rat road In the internet world.
Other gamblers are definitely not happy with a rule that limits them or with the casino they use is blocked and they must be looking for other doors to enter, and to eradicate this is very difficult for the government especially with limited knowledge.

Regulations and also the convenience of customers must be a priority that they can not run away, the government should also not be too cruel in implementing regulations, especially if you make players or casinos pressured in two angles.

My country is like that too. From the beginning my government has banned gambling operations in any form. They even built a firewall costing millions of dollars just to restrict people from accessing gambling sites, but unfortunately people can still access gambling sites using VPN. And from the reports collected, it is noted that gambling here has actually increased and the industry is now worth tens of billions of dollars - and it only benefits the illegal gambling entrepreneurs and does not contribute anything to the country's economy.
That is one example of why government regulation of gambling is sometimes ineffective and instead makes the country lose money.

Just because people can use VPN to gamble on other casinos and haven't get any problem yet, it doesn't mean they're safe.

Wait until the banks start to notice if there's a transaction came from unregulated casinos or even you play with cryptocurrency, the banks may ask the origin of your coins and how you earn that.

Not all countries who regulated casino have a purpose to reduce the amount of gamblers, some of them or probably all of them want to make money from it.

Some casinos do allow VPN usage.

I find it odd to impose rules on online casino and gambling sites just because they want to make profit because they see that the industry is profitable. The gamblers were not even put into considerations like protect people against cyber crime but the policy is more of tax thereby increasing the price of casino fees for the gamblers.

It's a cracked system and that is why internet users always find a way around it whether through through VPN or  other way forward. The thing is that people are not even scared to make use of illegal sites or make use of VPN to access  online casino because the regulation enforced on online casino does not benefit the gambler or affect them directly but to enrich pocket of the lawmakers.

I guess that's how the government wants to do it, just ban it and blame the "illegal" gambling towards the people. There could be some consequences with this but it's the efforts of the people to access the unregulated ones is what's the problem. Maybe that's the reason why they did it in the first place. There's actual actions but it's the people who don't want to stop.

It should be a case to case basis in this type of thing because it's so easy to bypass nowadays.

a direct ban without alternatives will definitely lead to bypassing the blockages and finding other ways to play. The government will be the loser in this situation, it is clear that they wanted to control the market, but the decision to block everything indiscriminately turned out to be easier. Perhaps in the future they will reconsider their decision when they realize what a huge layer of taxes could be earned.

Although VPN aren't always good to use on some casino because of their terms and conditions that doesn't allow VPN hence when you get caught, you can lose your account. It's a risk to use a VPN but before making use of it on a casino, do well to verify if the casino is against it. There are many casinos hence if one doesn't accept, there'll be others that do. Don't make use of the ones that don't accept VPN to avoid losing your money. The federal government haven't understand how people react to rules and regulations, when they're feeling oppressed, people will do anything to bypass the laws that has being implemented. People are only looking for ways they can get additional money through gambling hence I don't understand why the governments are becoming very strict to gambling platforms recently. Assuming the licence and regulations were okay, casinos will gladly go through the right process so the federal government have to do better.

I believe the major problem and what shows the incompetence of the Brazilian government was to think people would gladly comply and only gamble on websites which are fully regulated, as if the government of Brazil was not aware of the existence and effectiveness of VPN and even Tor to bypass attempts to block certain websites.
With the way casinos work online, these measures by the government of Lula DaSilva would have only worked if those casinos had headquarters within Brazil and got seized by federal authorities.

it was a mistake and miscalculation by them to assume they could do the same countries like the United Kingdom and the USA could do and twist the arm of those operators to comply with their new laws. Gambling market of those countries alone (UK and USA) likely surpasses Brazil easily.

People will always find a way how to go around this ban. So yes, sooner or later, the government will realize that their action towards this activity is futile. So better get the income out of it rather than banning its operations.
Do remember, the black market will always find a way how to reach out these gamblers. Since a lot of people are already into gambling, and it won't stop anytime soon, the government can just tailor protocols or regulations on this type of business so they can get the revenue from this lucrative business. Just think of the fact that no matter what, people will gamble.

I think if there seems to exist any form of regulation from the government on some of these private online  companies a lot of unchecked exploitation would have been the order of the day and a lot of us would have clamoured for a regulatory involvement of government even to the online casinos as it is right now. The regulations though strikes  some considerable form of balance which we can say it's also to the advantage of the gamblers just as it in other ways appears to be disadvantageous from the few cited areas in the OP.

They would really be that go to the practical way because they do know that it will really be that useless on trying out to ban in out but still seeing that there's still some illegal platforms or places that operates without knowing the government. They are battling out those things but still ending up on not to be able to eradicate and still there's still those in existence and this is the reason on why instead of banning they would really be rather allowing it or legalizing it because if we do really be able to see that they are gaining taxes rather than on banning it and getting nothing or even with those illegal places. This is why it might that look up unethical in regarding about into their decision but for the sake of getting up some benefits then they would really be doing. The main problem on here is that whether these taxes are being used on the right way or would be corrupted? This is an another issue to be faced on or something a problem that needs up to solved out. This is why if you are a citizen then it will be better that you shouldnt really be that trying out to stress out into the things that doesnt really need up to get stressed out because there's nothing that you can do on whatever the decisions that they will be making.

Hhh, the government is facing a modern problems due to the advancement of technology. Many countries want to ban certain things, but they are failing because the structure of VPNs is more complex, they can't contain something when people want to do it. The government has made a good plan to bring online casinos within the boundaries and collect their taxes, but I think they have forgotten about VPNs. VPNs are almost impossible to limit, but they have a good option to close the internet for them, although it will cost the government more.

In my view, if the government can show some flexibility and reduce the taxes and laws on online casinos, they will be in a good economic condition. It will be a win-win agreement, the casinos operate in the country, and hundreds of casinos will come, so people will earn here, and the government will collect their taxes.

Most people are unwilling to pay taxes, mistakenly believing that their money is not being spent on what they themselves would like. However, it should be understood that by betting on an unregulated casino via VPN, they deprive themselves of the opportunity to be protected by their government in case encounters fraud.

Oh, are they? Thanks for the information right there. I didn't expect that but I think every governments are still going to punish those who are going to go against their rules and it doesn't make sense if they don't because people will only continue on their wrong doings.

Online casinos are still plenty and they still can do what they want because it was their own but in terms of a business such as a casino, they may not only cater a customer from that country if they will not follow some regulations or they won't at all no matter what, because a country might disallow them. Oh well, they still can get customers from other countries so they might still be fine.

The greatest gear of government with gambling is money laundering and I don't know why they are having much concern with that. They clearly mandated every casino to do make kyc compulsory which almost casino I used now have, the casinos also have their own measurements of making sure that funds deposited can't be withdrawal unless they are wager atleast twice but still governments don't trust the processes which is why many of them ban gambling in the country.

I'm not sure about data collection, I'm not good in that aspect but there are people that has ban gambling in their country for the fear of privacy concerns and some countries don't allow external casinos and crypto casino, they fear they can be used for other agenda but all these doesn't matter, it's selfish interest that makes some of this people ban gambling and some are abused of political positions just because they want to achieve their own self aims.

I might also have the same feelings because the government of my country are professional in corruption. Most of the taxes collected are not used for the benefit of the people but the majority of them go to private pockets. But we have to pay taxes because it is our moral responsibility. Regarding protection from the government, one cannot eat his cake and have it. If you have decided to invade tax, you should be willing to forgo the benefits that the government offers.

Of course, many people think that this is the case with gambling, but I think that this does not happen everywhere and not in all countries. Although it is obvious that some casino owners can offer good money for lobbying interests, or when deciding on construction on a specific land, when other competitors are laying claim to it. However, as soon as the government tightens the grip on gambling, dishonest establishments appear that want to make a profit and not pay taxes, because this niche will always be in demand.

i mean yes i kinda understand the logic behind this corrupt government or not taxes is from the pockets of the citizens so it is only right for them to benefit from them no one else should benefit from the money aside from the payers themselves not those who do not pay most especially not the politicians
i am pretty sure a lot of casinos are already evading taxes it is very common for casinos to money launder it is either the taxes are too high or they just really do not want to pay at all

I don't know how other countries operate but in my country, they dare not try to ban gambling, there is going to be a problem because in my country, what people depend on as a source of living is gambling, it's working but that's what they used to feed, thats where some people has used to set up there business and other husle that get to them money, gambling is also one of the biggest place to the government makes their tax collection from, so it's not a possible move from my side.

The places where gambling is ban are just too strict or perhaps they are trying to make people live a decent life or it's also possible that gambling effects are been consider and it shows them how dangerous it's to their citizens and hence the ban. I don't see why a country is going to ban casino that people will freely do with their own money, something the casino don't have control over. It's a freedom to risk and that's why some people are playing despite the losses.

As a rule, all unregulated casinos do not pay taxes because they do not have a license. Either they are registered in offshore zones such as Curaçao and Malta, where these taxes are minimal or non-existent.

I think that they understand it and how the internet works but, they just can't force these casinos and citizens to kneel over them and obey what they say. They're also aware of how things go on around with decentralization and they're giving people the freedom to do what they want. As for these casinos, I think it's a good idea that it's been mentioned that there should be a global cooperation or an organization where they meet in the midst of it making some standards and policies for the betterment not just of their business and industry but also to give benefits to the countries where they operate.

I can't say for sure whether many casinos evade taxes, but it's true that companies in huezil (non-ironically brazil) don't pay taxes. They pass the costs on to consumers, and in the end, the tax is always paid by the lowest class in the pyramid, that is, the poorest class.

This is true for all countries, but in countries where there is no incentive to evade taxes, such as some Nordic countries, the incentive to evade taxes is lower... If you're from a Nordic country or any country where taxes aren't abusive, you can confirm this for me...

That’s why most casinos get their licenses in the countries you mentioned because of loose regulations and minimal user protection. This gives casinos a big advantage in disputes since users can’t expect much help from the licensing authorities or regulators.

However, I think this will change soon as there’s now a global standard for combating money laundering, and even these offshore casinos will have to comply. If they don’t, they risk being sanctioned by major countries like the U.S. for failing to implement standard rules.

For now, some casinos can still operate freely, but things will eventually get tougher which is actually good for us gamblers since we’ll have better protection. The downside? We might lose our privacy, as stricter KYC requirements will likely be enforced.

Gambling problems are indeed not easy to solve easily, even by the government. In fact, in the country, gambling is clearly prohibited, it is illegal. But in reality? Gambling activities still exist, even though they steal places, or if it's an offline casino, they have to give a deposit to a certain party so that their business is safe.

Moreover, online gambling can now be accessed easily. The government has tried to provide clear regulations on gambling, fines, and sanctions. However, that does not stop gambling players or online gambling site owners. In fact, it is getting busier and more and more sites like that are popping up. Yes, because they make big profits, because more and more people are entering this online gambling. While the government's efforts to block various online gambling sites are not easy, for example, if 1 is blocked, a thousand more will appear.

There are regulatory measures for online casinos but then this doesn't really apply to many countries, only in some few who has tried regulating it, and for some the regulations do work meanwhile for the others it's literally different as they may not be functional enough and the casinos gets to by pass them. But like you have said the regulations at some point becomes really important to the gamblers and even the casino at some point.

What I do perceive about the difference in regulatory measures from one country to another is a subject of how much or less these countries depend on the profits gained through loyalties and taxes from these casinos.

Those countries that takes the regulatory measures very seriously are probably the ones that puts their citizens before the profits they make through these casinos by ensuring that sanctions are strictly meted on those casinos that try to exploit the customers.

 It's rather the government of those countries that heavily depends on the taxes raised from these casinos under their jurisdictions that are less functional in terms of applying strict regulatory measures so they don't lose the huge  funds coming in from that industry. This is just my perspective tho.

What @tvplus006 said was the ongoing problem of many countries. A lot of online casinos coming out that are not licensed or regulated and all they do is take the money of the people and get out without a single scratch of the money they made. No tax at all.
It doesn't really hurt them, they just want freedom in what they do and perhaps most of them are doing some fishy business which is why they don't want any country regulating them. Obviously, they will take a peek at their system and algorithm first and dig some information before they give them a license and new online casinos don't want that.
What they will do is recreate another name but with the same settings once the other one is captured or banned.

To be honest, I do not agree that playing in a casino means paying a tax to the government, why? All people anywhere in the world have the right to have fun as they want as long as they do not harm others, and the one who should pay the corresponding taxes for this should be the casino, there will come a time when the government or governments of the world will want to charge for the air that is breathed because they believe that it is a luxury for people, that is why in this case I applaud the total irreverence.

Ironically, gambling can be rather a synonym of poverty within a community than a sign of luxury and excess of wealth, gambling is one of those industries which do not discriminate and see whether clients/gamblers are rich or poor. Actually, in Venezuela there have been several examples on how gambling is a sign of people going through bad economical times, it was back during the worst phase of inflation here when the "Animalitos" Roulette started to spread widely in this country, I recall it very vividly because those small gambling kiosks appeared all around my home town.

It would be quite short-sighted of governments to assume all gamblers are risking money they can afford to lose, many of them see gambling as a mean of survival in desperate times, so taxing gamblers for money they got in a context of extremely high risk is quite unfair. It is the main reason I tend to applaud countries which allow gamblers to keep 100% of their earning, as it is the case of Australia.

The casinos are to be in the right place to pay tax to government and not the players, the casino are the ones benefiting from the money which the people who play for fun is spending in the casino so their won’t be any offense for them to spend little amount of that money to settle up tax, the only place the government can come in for tax is on profit tax which they can also consider gambling winnings as profit which is added to the money which the gambler use in playing the game and the government will want their own share from that profit which looking at it from another angle they shouldn’t even be doing that but then again the government want to benefit from everywhere that their citizen benefit from.

This is what we prefer as gambler, but in some countries there are laws requiring gamblers to pay taxes on their winnings. So it seems like the government could take whatever they want through taxes even though gamblers aren’t really winners in the long run,  but since it's the law, there’s not much we can do, unless we’re willing to face the consequences if we get caught.

Also, it all depends on how effectively the government can enforce its laws. If they can’t implement them properly, casinos will likely continue operating without a license as long as they’re still getting players.

If a government decides to charge gamblers to pay taxes then they should also be able to make some refunds to them when they gamble and lose let us now see between them and gamblers who will be at the losing end because if they calculate the amount gamblers losing on a daily basis and for them to pay gamblers according to the percentage of losses they have incurred. If a government charge taxes on those operating casinos it is reasonable instead of taxing those who are playing in a casino, if am even in such country we will just hold a meeting among gamblers that no one should gamble then let us see how they will get the tax they are asking them to pay.

Let us not still understand estimate the power of the governments because they have conditional regulatory power in the system that they can shut down the internet.
They would not just do so because they also need it for interceptions and communal services.

Check it this way... If every other countries governments steps forward that casinos in their respective places will be regulated with the taxation policies including foreigners using their local casinos sites will be effected on the taxes on the casinos, I don't think if the Brazilians would heartedly make it a success in using the VPN of other regional locations to visit their own local casinos as a course of trying to boycott payment of taxes.

But in anyway, the governments can kot successfully take all sets of regulatory compliances upon the whole world as the internet too do have decentralized leakages which technically can be privatized for accessibility. It is all about technologies.

We're just dreaming if we think that will happen because in reality, the law requiring gamblers to pay taxes on their winnings usually has a threshold, meaning you only have to pay taxes if your winnings exceed a certain amount. It’s meant for big wins, so if you’re just betting small and winning small  you’re not required to pay taxes.

And honestly, even if that law exists, if the government isn’t strictly enforcing it, many gamblers can still get away with it and enjoy their winnings tax-free.

When the government thinks that the rules they make are able to reduce people from getting involved in gambling, but with the existence of technology as small as VPN it is able to overcome the firewall block that they put on gambling websites, it makes the rules they make useless. because now people are smarter, even though their government puts a firewall to prevent them from accessing the site, these gamblers can use VPN on their devices, and that can solve all the problems. That makes this rule achieve nothing and the government is just wasting their energy.

China has begun to take control or become the head of international gambling with the aim of increasing state revenue. In addition, ethnic Chinese are a single segment of the Asian gambling market, their fondness for gambling is well known. The Chinese government does not want money circulating in other countries. even in early 2024, the Chinese government banned its citizens from gambling abroad. Even cross-border gambling is a violation of the law. This shows how serious China is about the potential profits of the gambling business.

Actually, it is very easy for a country's government to stop online gambling. Only the problem is like what happened in Indonesia. There are several staff members of the Ministry of Telecommunications and Information who received bribes from bookies to turn a blind eye when they found out. Where there is profit there is a way, especially in developing countries where the level of corruption, collusion and nepotism is still very high.

I’m not aware with this development about gambling industry on China since their citizens preferred to gamble abroad rather than to their own country because of their regulations.

Many Chinese corporations even operate a lot of POGO in my country Philippines and manage to plant politicians using their own people as spy just to operate freely here without being notice by the government so I thought China is still strict on gambling in their own soil.

I guess they decided to capitalize now on gambling industry which generates huge income in other country that Chinese gambler use to play.

Some casinos have terms against the use of VPN, so please do read the sheet carefully before you start playing there or be ready for unforeseen circumstances.

Also this is nothing new for the governments and they have to do what the idiotic politicians who run the government want. Often times they make moves to appease one section of the country to gather their votes and sometimes they do so for getting more tax. It is either money or votes - these are the only two things that politicians understand.

They might reverse the ban in a year or so, happened with other countries too, cant recall precisely.

When casinos around the world Understand that they have to deal directly with governments in order to survive, they will be able to accept VPNs and all the necessary tools, as it was before, before casinos did not care if they played with VPN or whatever, what mattered was that they would attract more customers, now I am sure that everything will go in the sense and direction towards a more directed path of more freedom, that is, the time will come where people will no longer comply with KYC , where they will want to play only with VPN so as not to be tracked , and those casinos that allow it are the ones that will monopolize those customers.

But currently it's not still possible for casinos to allow the use of vpn, even though some of the casinos are allowing it currently there would be a time where the casino would need information from the country of your use. For instance, when someone uses vpn maybe their country or region is restricted and they manages to pass kyc using other countries when the casino need additional information and they weren't able to provide same information then automatically such account Is restricted or halted.
But for casinos that allows vpn and they clearly stated it in their ToS wouldn't have any future case against its users.

This could be a sign of Positivity and new development but then the internet is created for so many purposes inorder to serve the needs of man so therefore the government don't really have to dictate for it but then let's not forget the government always have their way around things and at such the use of VPN to access sites and casino that are ban could be favourable to the gamblers now but I don't think it's going to last long since the use of physical casino and some website is already ban by the Brazilian government,so it's better of to abide by the rules of the Brazil government.

Well that is the logical thing to do, what should really be done but it is not like that, it does not work like that, at least in my country they do it but under the table, that is to say, they do everything through third parties and with large amounts of money that they demand and that is something that is always fulfilled, the governments in the countries that are first world I do not know if they do it like that or not, maybe it is something that at least I do not know if they lie there, but here things are handled like that, there should always be a balance, an equilibrium of things, but I think that will happen in the countries that have more ethics, it could be Switzerland.

Governments are not going to stop or put an end to the way of threat they have always give on gambling, because they also uses the sector for some coverings for themselves in other to source for money, yet it is not against the law in most cases and they cant do without frustrating the regulations guiding it, because they know that in this, the only means they can engage in other to keep receiving from them is by usual and constant attack on them, this will make them feels its an act against the law to gamble while the government are being proud of receiving money paid by these gambling platforms all in the name of regulation.

For countries that have gambling regulations, it is very hard for them to stop gambling promotions, this is because as long as casinos are regulated they will act on that right to manage whatever advertisements they want to use and for sure we have to relate to everything the way it comes.

In my country, cryptocurrency casinos are not regulated bit then still we have unrestricted access to most popular gambling sites around the world just a few restricted ones but even at that one can still bypass such restrictions.

Some countries won't stop banning them because the majority of their citizens believe in one or two ideologies that ban their believers from doing that. Even if the government doesn't believe in any of that, they won't go against the society hence why they apply some loose policy like this. Pretty sure they realize the drawback of pushing that money overseas, but it's probably worth it if they can increase their soft power or maintain it after some big scandal hits them.

You reminded me of a topic that the OP was asking to know the different casinos that were owned by some politicians. I do partially agree with you, some politically exposed personal could be deep involved with the casino and they would definitely wants to loosen the regulatory laws on casinos, so that they could also stand in favour of their business, they know they can not benefit when the law is so tight.