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Title: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Eternad on February 03, 2025, 02:06:54 PM
As title stated, what do you think about the idea of creating a sub board/child board on gambling board section dedicated for gambling addiction instead of moving it to off-topic.

Gambling addiction topic is vital on gambling board since this is the reality outcome for some gamblers. I knew some topic is just a cycle but most of it is due to the recent experience of the posters.

What do you think? Especially for regular poster on gambling board.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Oshosondy on February 03, 2025, 02:13:56 PM
What I think is that it should not be called off-topic as child board under gambling. It can be given a better name like 'other discussions'. Which means it will be about the discussion of other gambling related matters that does not fit in the main gambling board, gambling discussion, games and rounds and investor-based games.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Churchillvv on February 03, 2025, 02:20:51 PM
Perhaps the only thing I see gambling addiction topic being repeated is to complete ones signature post quota for the week because literally everything that is repeated could be discussed in one complex topic concentrated on addiction and of course mods don't just move them because they want it's either it's not much of quality or it's just a random experience that's repeated too much of times.

I sure before moving mods do read the thread.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Lafu on February 03, 2025, 02:33:47 PM
As title stated, what do you think about the idea of creating a sub board/child board on gambling board section dedicated for gambling addiction instead of moving it to off-topic.
To be honest , i think that we dont need something like that , even i guess that 30% or i dont know maybe more have a gambling addiction for bets or casino things.
If something like that what you asking for coming , every other Board will be coming with the same idea for there.
On top of that , that would be a lot of nuts on work for the mods.
I think that one off topic board is enough for all things that belongs nowhere.
So my answer is that it should be as it is right now and was always.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Oshosondy on February 03, 2025, 02:37:55 PM
Perhaps the only thing I see gambling addiction topic being repeated is to complete ones signature post quota for the week because literally everything that is repeated could be discussed in one complex topic concentrated on addiction and of course mods don't just move them because they want it's either it's not much of quality or it's just a random experience that's repeated too much of times.

I sure before moving mods do read the thread.
But I also disagree with you that people are posting somewhere to complete signature campaign weekly posts. All members that are in such signature campaigns also are posting to complete weekly signature posts. If all the campaigns on this forum suddenly stopped, you will understand what I am saying. You will see that those that love discussing about bitcoin on this forum that are on wall observer will be the only people that will continue to be active.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 03, 2025, 02:50:23 PM
I don't think the moderator moved the thread just because it talks about gambling addiction, I've seen many threads about that in gambling discussion and the moderator didn't move it. It's either low value or too many repeated discussions.

The another thing is, we don't really know if it's moved by the moderator or the @OP move it by himself.

It doesn't need to have gambling addiction sub since gambling discussion board can fit it.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on February 03, 2025, 02:54:00 PM
If you're referring to the recent thread that was moved to off-topic after a few replies, if everyone had looked at the author more closely, they would have realized that the thread was not sincere.
I saw @Helena Yu's post, and he is very correct in saying that the OP made up his "gaming addiction."

Folks, read my post.

@OP was never post in Gambling board before, he mostly post in his local board, Bitcoin discussion and Economy. But, after he applying for casino based review campaign and signature campaign, then he started to post in Gambling board.

So, how can be a non gambler is getting addicted to gambling? :P

@OP is just trying to post in gambling board, in order to convince the manager, he even create a fake story.

There are indeed many such threads, some very useful, with different interpretations, but repeating the same words about help or your remorse does not bring anything to the one who creates the thread. There was simply no point in chewing over the same advice or feeling sorry for the fictitious "gaming addict" in this thread.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Eternad on February 03, 2025, 03:10:58 PM
If you're referring to the recent thread that was moved to off-topic after a few replies, if everyone had looked at the author more closely, they would have realized that the thread was not sincere.
I saw @Helena Yu's post, and he is very correct in saying that the OP made up his "gaming addiction."

Folks, read my post.

@OP was never post in Gambling board before, he mostly post in his local board, Bitcoin discussion and Economy. But, after he applying for casino based review campaign and signature campaign, then he started to post in Gambling board.

So, how can be a non gambler is getting addicted to gambling? :P

@OP is just trying to post in gambling board, in order to convince the manager, he even create a fake story.

There are indeed many such threads, some very useful, with different interpretations, but repeating the same words about help or your remorse does not bring anything to the one who creates the thread. There was simply no point in chewing over the same advice or feeling sorry for the fictitious "gaming addict" in this thread.

I’m not aware of this topic but I saw many topic in the past that even the general discussion for gambling was being moved to off-topic if the discussion was already in general perspective on gambling.

This is the example topic:
Is gambling a waste of time and money? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5526101.0)
Gamblers should have cautiousness at the back of their mind  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5525799.0)

And many more, I’m not saying that the topic above is good however they are still on-topic on gambling board rather than off-topic.

@oshondy suggestion to create others sub is good place to move this topic.

As title stated, what do you think about the idea of creating a sub board/child board on gambling board section dedicated for gambling addiction instead of moving it to off-topic.
To be honest , i think that we dont need something like that , even i guess that 30% or i dont know maybe more have a gambling addiction for bets or casino things.
If something like that what you asking for coming , every other Board will be coming with the same idea for there.
On top of that , that would be a lot of nuts on work for the mods.
I think that one off topic board is enough for all things that belongs nowhere.
So my answer is that it should be as it is right now and was always.

I’m confused about this and honestly I don’t have any idea about the difficulty of adding new sub in the forum.

I agree with you if this will really give difficulty to the mods. I hope mods will chime in on this.



Thanks everyone for your opinions to the topic. Criticism is highly appreciated.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Btcdeybodi on February 03, 2025, 03:55:50 PM
Perhaps the only thing I see gambling addiction topic being repeated is to complete ones signature post quota for the week because literally everything that is repeated could be discussed in one complex topic concentrated on addiction and of course mods don't just move them because they want it's either it's not much of quality or it's just a random experience that's repeated too much of times.

I sure before moving mods do read the thread.

Repeated posts on gambling addiction should not be enough reason why mods should move topics on gambling addiction to the off topics board except for low value threads that doesn't suit in the gambling discussion board. If there is any repeated thread on gambling addiction, the best is to lock the thread instead of moving them to off topics. I'm not against mods moving gambling threads to off topics board inasmuch as there is enough reason why it should not belong to the gambling discussion section. The thing is just that for regular posters in the gambling discussion section, they should be able to identify between a thread that can possibly be moved to the off topics board by mods and avoid making replies on such threads so that they won't be affected in their signature campaign post counts. I think this issue have been deliberated before in the past.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Halab on February 03, 2025, 06:21:16 PM
As title stated, what do you think about the idea of creating a sub board/child board on gambling board section dedicated for gambling addiction instead of moving it to off-topic.

Gambling addiction topic is vital on gambling board since this is the reality outcome for some gamblers. I knew some topic is just a cycle but most of it is due to the recent experience of the posters.

What do you think? Especially for regular poster on gambling board.

I'm ready to harass Theymos and use all my "mod powers" to ensure that such a sub-forum is created. But I will ask that signatures not be displayed in this new section.
Is that OK for you?

Edit : I thought it was obvious, but yes my message was sarcastic.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 03, 2025, 07:09:01 PM
As title stated, what do you think about the idea of creating a sub board/child board on gambling board section dedicated for gambling addiction instead of moving it to off-topic.
Gambling addiction topic is vital on gambling board since this is the reality outcome for some gamblers. I knew some topic is just a cycle but most of it is due to the recent experience of the posters.
What do you think? Especially for regular poster on gambling board.
You actually do have a point and also a nice suggestion here. That is basically because majority of the posts in the gambling discussion board are usually directed towards addiction. Sometimes the base topic may not be strictly or directly gambling addiction rather it may be some other topic nevertheless gambling addiction still fits in the context of most gambling discussion topics this is basically one of the reasons why you often find multiple topics about gambling addiction being created.

I'm ready to harass Theymos and use all my "mod powers" to ensure that such a sub-forum is created. But I will ask that signatures not be displayed in this new section.
Is that OK for you?
That will be a nice move plus one for that.
Nevertheless I think members would prefer it more if signatures were actually allowed to be displayed too in the sub board.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: LTU_btc on February 03, 2025, 08:25:50 PM
As regular poster in gambling board, I think that we don't need that. Most of gambling addiction topics is made not to share experience, but just for signature campaign spam. I don't see what's the point of creating separate sub-board for spam.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Eternad on February 03, 2025, 09:40:06 PM
As title stated, what do you think about the idea of creating a sub board/child board on gambling board section dedicated for gambling addiction instead of moving it to off-topic.

Gambling addiction topic is vital on gambling board since this is the reality outcome for some gamblers. I knew some topic is just a cycle but most of it is due to the recent experience of the posters.

What do you think? Especially for regular poster on gambling board.

I'm ready to harass Theymos and use all my "mod powers" to ensure that such a sub-forum is created. But I will ask that signatures not be displayed in this new section.
Is that OK for you?

Yes. This is much better compared to off-topic. The goal is not about signature code being displayed rather to make the thread still relevant by being viewed by the right audience.

Gambling addiction is crucial part of gambling since it’s the most popular effect of gambling. But if this suggestion will bring a lot of extra effort from mods then better to ignore this suggestion.

Thanks for chiming in here!

As regular poster in gambling board, I think that we don't need that. Most of gambling addiction topics is made not to share experience, but just for signature campaign spam. I don't see what's the point of creating separate sub-board for spam.

There’s newbie or newly created account that discover the forum in search of crypto casino that wants to share their experience here. Crypto casino is very active here which means there’s other user browsing the forum that doesn’t have signature campaigns.



Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Oshosondy on February 04, 2025, 03:05:11 PM
I'm ready to harass Theymos and use all my "mod powers" to ensure that such a sub-forum is created. But I will ask that signatures not be displayed in this new section.
Is that OK for you?
That will be a nice move plus one for that.
Nevertheless I think members would prefer it more if signatures were actually allowed to be displayed too in the sub board.
That is not a nice move at all in my opinion. Maybe I am wrong but I do not see it as a nice suggestion. Halab, forgive me for saying that. The reason I said so is that even the signature is enabled on off-topic board but just that campaign managers do not count posts on off-topic board. It would be better if campaign managers also decide this themselves. Even on gambling board, campaign managers do not count posts on investor based games and games and rounds.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: notocactus on February 04, 2025, 03:32:26 PM
As title stated, what do you think about the idea of creating a sub board/child board on gambling board section dedicated for gambling addiction instead of moving it to off-topic.

Gambling addiction topic is vital on gambling board since this is the reality outcome for some gamblers. I knew some topic is just a cycle but most of it is due to the recent experience of the posters.

What do you think? Especially for regular poster on gambling board.
It's not first time ever, topics in Gambling or Gambling discussion board were removed to forum trash bin, and forum users created threads to complain about it.

If threads were removed to trash bin by moderators, my assumption is those threads are zero value. If they are only Off topic, they would have been moved to Off-topic board rather than deleted and moved to trash bin.

Lastly, if a thread is off topic, it needs to be in off topic board, not in any current or new child board for off topic threads but related to gambling or gambling addiction discussions.

Off-topic - "Other topics that might be of interest to bitcoiners"


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Davidvictorson on February 04, 2025, 05:22:26 PM
What I think is that it should not be called off-topic as child board under gambling. It can be given a better name like 'other discussions'. Which means it will be about the discussion of other gambling related matters that does not fit in the main gambling board, gambling discussion, games and rounds and investor-based games.
I wam with you on this one and I think it is very important to ignore. Everyweek there are more than 5 gambling topics that are discussions around gambling addictions. Some of them may sound reprtititive but there are new insights from the those who make their replies because we have new information on addiction and insights from new people as well. This is a thought that I have had for some time and seeing a topic on this is great. And I totally agree with everything you have written.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Doan9269 on February 04, 2025, 07:15:37 PM
As title stated, what do you think about the idea of creating a sub board/child board on gambling board section dedicated for gambling addiction instead of moving it to off-topic.

Gambling addiction topic is vital on gambling board since this is the reality outcome for some gamblers. I knew some topic is just a cycle but most of it is due to the recent experience of the posters.

What do you think? Especially for regular poster on gambling board.

Mate i buy this your idea, but come to think about it from this perspective, there shouldn't be too much discussions and threads creation on a particular subject like addiction in gambling.

Instead, i have my own suggestion to give in this way, there should be a Mega thread for every other discussion that may involve gambling addiction, just as we have in other aspects, if we can maybe have a collection of the old threads about gambling addiction all in one thread or we should refer their links and discussions may as well continue on gambling addiction as others may intend to post.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Synchronice on February 05, 2025, 12:01:25 PM
As title stated, what do you think about the idea of creating a sub board/child board on gambling board section dedicated for gambling addiction instead of moving it to off-topic.

Gambling addiction topic is vital on gambling board since this is the reality outcome for some gamblers. I knew some topic is just a cycle but most of it is due to the recent experience of the posters.

What do you think? Especially for regular poster on gambling board.
This is a crypto forum that includes discussion about many things but gambling addiction is not a thing that deserves a board on this forum, this is not a rehab center. If anything, I think it's okay to create gambling addiction Megathread where people will post if they have a problem and need some help, sub board is too much to ask.
Moderators move such threads in off-topic because sig members don't get paid for off-topic and it was obvious that 99% of people were posting nonsense in GA threads. So, by moving such threads in off-topic, mods were forcing spammers to give up on spamming.

I'm ready to harass Theymos and use all my "mod powers" to ensure that such a sub-forum is created. But I will ask that signatures not be displayed in this new section.
Is that OK for you?
That would be funny but I think it would still get spammed.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Alone055 on February 05, 2025, 12:45:13 PM
Doesn't a thread discussing gambling addiction fall under the "Gambling Discussion" category since it's basically a discussion related to gambling? I have seen so many topics and threads about gambling addiction and related issues being created and growing to hundreds of pages, and they were not moved to off-topic. So, I think the Gambling Discussion sub-section is the actual place for them and the removal of such threads isn't solely because they don't fit in that section.

Mods might remove threads that are repeated a lot, or maybe a similar discussion is already going on. Other than that, I don't see any reason for mods to remove threads or topics related to gambling being moved to off-topic because that wouldn't make any sense.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: KingsDen on February 05, 2025, 01:08:29 PM
Mods might remove threads that are repeated a lot, or maybe a similar discussion is already going on. Other than that, I don't see any reason for mods to remove threads or topics related to gambling being moved to off-topic because that wouldn't make any sense.
In the case of similar discussions, you will agree with me that almost all the gambling addiction topics are similar. They'll just say how they or someone else became addicted, lost huge amount of money which later ended with suicide. Most of those stories aren't personal experiences. Some are copied randomly over the internet, while some are totally fabricated. In order to save the stress, organising them into a child board won't be a bad idea.

Besides, such board could house advices and therapy for addicts. Who knows if it could be a reference board for anyone trying to flee the shackles of addiction.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Zwei on February 05, 2025, 01:53:46 PM
As title stated, what do you think about the idea of creating a sub board/child board on gambling board section dedicated for gambling addiction instead of moving it to off-topic.

Gambling addiction topic is vital on gambling board since this is the reality outcome for some gamblers. I knew some topic is just a cycle but most of it is due to the recent experience of the posters.

What do you think? Especially for regular poster on gambling board.
we don't need an entire sub board just for gambling addiction.
one single thread with good helpful resources on how to deal with gambling addiction, would be 100x better.

and imo, if someone is actually dealing with gambling addiction, the last place they should be is on the gambling board.
and the last thing they should do, is get random online advice for something that requires real help.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Z_MBFM on February 05, 2025, 03:51:14 PM
Perhaps the only thing I see gambling addiction topic being repeated is to complete ones signature post quota for the week because literally everything that is repeated could be discussed in one complex topic concentrated on addiction and of course mods don't just move them because they want it's either it's not much of quality or it's just a random experience that's repeated too much of times.

I sure before moving mods do read the thread.
This forum mostly contains signature campaigns of gambling sites. Hey there are a lot of posts on gambling boards to meet the minimum post requirements of campaigns. And sometimes similar topics are created due to which those topics are considered as off topic. And that's fair enough.  Creating the same similar topic again and again and discussing there is totally spamming.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Miles2006 on February 05, 2025, 04:45:06 PM
I understand the point op is trying to create, if this will ever happen I will still consider such section as an off topic board because a section meant for  a continuous discussion has no value else the mods choose to delete the topic. Most of the discussions about addiction are genuine and I have seen few stories shared with a lesson. For the fact post in  gambling section contains a lot of replies doesn’t mean the stories shared are cooked up story, as some will say it’s meant to complete post count and I doubt if the sub board will ever function.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Liliana1304 on February 05, 2025, 04:49:17 PM
Perhaps the only thing I see gambling addiction topic being repeated is to complete ones signature post quota for the week because literally everything that is repeated could be discussed in one complex topic concentrated on addiction and of course mods don't just move them because they want it's either it's not much of quality or it's just a random experience that's repeated too much of times.

I sure before moving mods do read the thread.
Good thing you said 'perhaps' which means you're not really sure if these gamblers who share their addiction stories are really faking it just to complete post quota, right?
Sometimes, when something reoccurs or is grossly repeated, most people feel it's staged or just a means to gain public attention but sometimes, the more they repeat it, it just means they feel overwhelmed and need help or the other ones who share are those who were once addicted but got out of it and won't mind sharing their experience and recovery journey to as many that need it.


Title: Re: Instead of off-topic, should mod create a gambling addiction sub
Post by: Alone055 on February 05, 2025, 07:10:15 PM
In the case of similar discussions, you will agree with me that almost all the gambling addiction topics are similar. They'll just say how they or someone else became addicted, lost huge amount of money which later ended with suicide. Most of those stories aren't personal experiences. Some are copied randomly over the internet, while some are totally fabricated.

Yes, I agree, and that's why I said that the mods don't trash or move a thread to the off-topic section if it isn't similar to another one that is already open and being discussed. If a thread has a different context and discusses something at least somewhat different, even if it's about the same subject, that can stay in the Gambling discussion section.

In order to save the stress, organising them into a child board won't be a bad idea.

Maybe not, but I just feel it's unnecessary and there are far more important things that could be done before going to such things.

Besides, such board could house advices and therapy for addicts. Who knows if it could be a reference board for anyone trying to flee the shackles of addiction.

I doubt it. A person who wishes to get away from gambling and even has the will to stop gambling because their addiction is causing problems for them would look for help and resources that can help them, and the internet is full of such references.

However, I don't mind if there is a child board for it, I just don't think it's a necessity at the moment. :)