Title: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Free Market Capitalist on February 09, 2025, 02:19:58 PM No one in their right mind doubts that Excimer is a troll.
And I put this case as over time I have seen others but at some point they get tired and leave. In the case of Excimer we only have to take a look at his threads: Excimer's Meritsource Position Application (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5525834.msg64934101#msg64934101) Tell me if it is not trolling that request in that it has not followed the rules imposed by theymos. What about this one? All questions to me. I am Excimer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468520.msg62918511#msg62918511) Which he self-moderately created and in which he deleted all posts except his own. I could give many more examples, but I wonder: is there anything positive that he is contributing to the forum? I don't think so. I sounds to me that rule 3 used to be enforced, many years ago, but it hasn't been enforced for a long time now. Did anyone experience this or know why? Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Jawhead999 on February 09, 2025, 02:32:02 PM There was a popular troll called TOAA and many people were trying to make him to get banned Requesting a permanent ban for The-One-Above-All (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217303.0)
Not sure if he get banned or not, but as I can see on BPIP, he didn't get permanent ban (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2580400). Unfortunately temporary ban history not recorded on BPIP. Did anyone experience this or know why? It's about the traffic, currently the forum lack of new traffic unlike during ICO pumps.Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: lovesmayfamilis on February 09, 2025, 02:35:23 PM For me, he is very harmless. There are many other evil and vengeful guys on the forum, but this one with his sometimes naive jokes dilutes the forum with his presence. I do not see any harm or evil in him.
Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on February 09, 2025, 02:38:11 PM AFAIK, there have been some members that have been banned before for trolling. One of them was the Bitcoin Satoshi Vision guy, and then I also remember game-protect. Here is what I think why action might have not been taken yet;
1. Maybe no one has yet reported him to the moderators about his trolling 2. Maybe someone has reported but hasn't made an extensive report showing how he has been trolling around over time This is what I saw in the FAQ Q: Do you moderate/delete (possible) FUD, accusations and untrue information? A: No. We don't have enough time to check every single piece of information and verify the validity of the sources. Also, just like scams - too much room for bias and abuse. However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post). Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on February 09, 2025, 03:23:32 PM Tell me if it is not trolling that request in that it has not followed the rules imposed by theymos. Trolling is not allowed but maybe at too very high level, intensity and repeatedly.game-protect (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=874254) is a very classic troller against many casinos, and Bitcoin forum members. He was not banned until he tried to troll and attack theymos invididually for a few times. This troller can be banned if he continues and moderators have more reports about this trolling case. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Free Market Capitalist on February 09, 2025, 03:55:29 PM Our friend has fought back:
These trolls calling me a troll (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5443895.0) He doesn't seem to have much of a life does he? However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post). Good point. According to that, what Excimer does is not the kind of trolling that gets him banned. At least his activity lately consists of trolling forum-related issues. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: KWH on February 09, 2025, 04:04:28 PM Entertainment value?
Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Free Market Capitalist on February 09, 2025, 04:07:34 PM Entertainment value? I agree with the entertainment part, but not the value one. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Ambatman on February 09, 2025, 05:25:49 PM I think many just leave to do his thing
Because most times he's on his personal thread stating his mind. Though flawed, atleast he isn't actively affecting the forum The best is to ignore him and his thread. I go there sometimes and usually get some laughs from the things he says. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Z-tight on February 09, 2025, 05:54:19 PM Good point. According to that, what Excimer does is not the kind of trolling that gets him banned. At least his activity lately consists of trolling forum-related issues. Yeah, however if they continue like this, it is safe to say that they might be banned sooner or later for trolling. In the meantime the only sensible solution is to ignore such a user, as you can see they already got themself a new thread because of this one. I can only imagine that if their topics have little or no replies, they'll get tired eventually, it could take sometime, but that'll happen.Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: nakamura12 on February 09, 2025, 06:42:33 PM I think many just leave to do his thing I agree with this because if you don't ignore someone then that someone would always comes back to do more or do the the same thing again. As we can see, since he saw this thread and now created new one defending himself so it will only create more of this. If he is proven to be trolling by mods then I think he will be banned since we know that mods doesn't have time to check all the source of the post ti determine if it's trolling or not when it comes from another forum member through reporting of the post. Trolls would surely be banned sooner or later when proven as I have explained.Because most times he's on his personal thread stating his mind. Though flawed, atleast he isn't actively affecting the forum The best is to ignore him and his thread. I go there sometimes and usually get some laughs from the things he says. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: NotATether on February 09, 2025, 07:00:08 PM There was a popular troll called TOAA and many people were trying to make him to get banned Requesting a permanent ban for The-One-Above-All (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217303.0) Man, it feels so long ago. Remember when cryptohunter used to flood this board with alts? But it goes on to say that trolls will get bored of trolling and move on with their lives, but only if you don't feed them. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Lafu on February 09, 2025, 07:12:01 PM Man, it feels so long ago. Remember when cryptohunter used to flood this board with alts? I was just on the way to write about that , TOAA was one of his Alt Accounts , but to be honest i and the most are dont miss cryptohunter.But it goes on to say that trolls will get bored of trolling and move on with their lives, but only if you don't feed them. Fully agree with that , that when you dont feed them at some stage the trolls will be getting annoyed from that. @Free Market Capitalist , just put them or him on your Ignore List and enjoy the silence after that. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Alone055 on February 09, 2025, 08:56:49 PM I always wonder what's his motive behind what he does around the forum. The guy has a -7 on his trust page, doesn't get enough attention (at least, I thought so before you created this thread), getting no incentives from the forum since he can't join campaigns or get private offers based on his reputation, but he still keeps going. Such people will sometimes make you feel that maybe they are not actually mentally stable in real life, so they find such things to be normal because they could be doing anything in the world, but they choose to waste their time this way, and for what?
That being said, I believe the best solution is what @Lafu has suggested; simply ignore him and don't make him realize that he is getting attention because that might motivate him even more to continue with his activities that he might find useful but they are not. :) Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: uchegod-21 on February 09, 2025, 11:11:14 PM I remember when he trolled me for a harmless mixer return thread I made. He took it so personal and created a thread for it. He creates self moderated for everything so that he can troll and moderate others. I was sad at first, but when I saw multiple of his threads in reputation board, I knew he is sick or something.
But, I don't wish he should be banned. Sometimes the forum becomes so boring that you will like his type of people to entertain us. He said LoyceV is a troll ;D Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on February 09, 2025, 11:58:36 PM But it goes on to say that trolls will get bored of trolling and move on with their lives, but only if you don't feed them. When he receives the attention. The more he will get the energy to continue trolling. Ignoring him will indeed do wonders in the long run. Members just have to make sure they don't interact with him or open any thread giving him attention.Do you guy remember Thule (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355462)? ;D Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: suchmoon on February 10, 2025, 01:17:21 AM AFAIK, there have been some members that have been banned before for trolling. One of them was the Bitcoin Satoshi Vision guy LOL yeah about that... Bitcoin SV is the same person as Excimer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211434.msg59543186#msg59543186), also known as korner and a bunch of other accounts. So it isn't just rule #3 but also rule #25 that is being blatantly ignored by the mods, and he knows and abuses that fact. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Free Market Capitalist on February 10, 2025, 04:33:28 AM LOL yeah about that... Bitcoin SV is the same person as Excimer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5211434.msg59543186#msg59543186), also known as korner and a bunch of other accounts. So it isn't just rule #3 but also rule #25 that is being blatantly ignored by the mods, and he knows and abuses that fact. It sounded to me like I'd seen nutildah's thread, now that you mention it, but I hadn't connected Excimer to one of the BitcoinSV alts. That would be a good reason to ban him but if they haven't done it by now it looks to me like it's going to happen like naim027. The only thing that's clear to me from all this is that this guy doesn't have a life. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: xLays on February 10, 2025, 11:03:06 AM It’s probably best to just ignore him—not totally ignore, but let the moderators do their job and not pay attention anymore to this user. Because look when you made a thread like this, they just craved more attention. He even made a thread about your post. Look at reputation board right now he flooded it.
Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: LoyceV on February 10, 2025, 11:05:53 AM Since trolls don't get banned, and they feed on attention, I just click Ignore. But that's not for everyone: I don't get why people are still posting in self-moderated topics when the warning on top shows all 25 posts have been deleted.
Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: suchmoon on February 10, 2025, 11:40:07 AM Since trolls don't get banned, and they feed on attention, I just click Ignore. But that's not for everyone: I don't get why people are still posting in self-moderated topics when the warning on top shows all 25 posts have been deleted. Drive-by sig spammers post without reading the preceding posts or the OP, sure as shit they're not gonna read the line above the OP, nor do they care as long as the post stays up until the campaign manager does weekly counts. Rule #1 is #1 most abused and #1 least enforced. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: dkbit98 on February 10, 2025, 09:35:30 PM Since trolls don't get banned, and they feed on attention, I just click Ignore. But that's not for everyone: I don't get why people are still posting in self-moderated topics when the warning on top shows all 25 posts have been deleted. They probably have nothing better to do in their life, or they are doing it intentionally to prove the point.I think Ignore button works perfectly in this situation, unless in some weird way someone enjoys wasting time. Banning trolls don't work most of the time as they just create new accounts. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: ABCbits on February 11, 2025, 07:58:58 AM --snip-- Banning trolls don't work most of the time as they just create new accounts. I mostly agree. Although banning troll with fairly high rank account is better than nothing, since they'll be forced to face some limitation with the new account (such as image not shown and no signature). Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: KingsDen on February 11, 2025, 11:43:46 PM Did this thread inspire this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3688192) user to create their account?
Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: baneveryone on September 09, 2025, 05:28:01 AM What about this one? All questions to me. I am Excimer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468520.msg62918511#msg62918511) Which he self-moderately created and in which he deleted all posts except his own. His abuse of the self-moderated thread is much more severe than what you found. He has also completely altered the topic of the threads and relocated them. I am talking this at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5558525.msg65785649#msg65785649 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5558525.msg65785649#msg65785649). Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on September 09, 2025, 10:11:03 AM His abuse of the self-moderated thread is much more severe than what you found. He has also completely altered the topic of the threads and relocated them. I am talking this at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5558525.msg65785649#msg65785649 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5558525.msg65785649#msg65785649). I will say this again. Completely ignore him. The more members reply to him in his self-moderated threads, the more they give him troll energy. Yesterday I replied to a thread made by someone who was complaining about his personal information getting disclosed, the culprit decided to reply me through his self-moderated thread.I just ignored it, and I suggest all members do the same. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Free Market Capitalist on September 09, 2025, 10:14:46 AM His abuse of the self-moderated thread is much more severe than what you found. He has also completely altered the topic of the threads and relocated them. I am talking this at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5558525.msg65785649#msg65785649 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5558525.msg65785649#msg65785649). I've seen him lately in the Reputation section with several self-moderated threads with his bullshit. Even with everything you have gathered, moderators in coordination with theymos are encouraged to do something about it. But unfortunately, having a crazy person around who hasn't been taking their medication lately and uses the forum as a hobby is tolerated in quite a few cases. Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Synchronice on September 09, 2025, 11:21:40 AM What happened to rule 3? The first rule of fight club is, you do not talk about fight club.The second rule of fight club is, you do not talk about fight club! The third rule of fight club is, if someone yells stop!, goes limp, or taps out, the fight is over. P.S. I'm kidding. No one in their right mind doubts that Excimer is a troll. Well, the name tells itself: a short-lived molecule that exists only in an excited state.Since trolls don't get banned, and they feed on attention, I just click Ignore. But that's not for everyone: I don't get why people are still posting in self-moderated topics when the warning on top shows all 25 posts have been deleted. Drive-by sig spammers post without reading the preceding posts or the OP, sure as shit they're not gonna read the line above the OP, nor do they care as long as the post stays up until the campaign manager does weekly counts. Anyone knows when I click on Ignore, how to make that user completely disappear from the forum for me instead of seeing This user is currently ignored. text? Title: Re: What happened to rule 3? Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on September 09, 2025, 11:35:07 AM Anyone knows when I click on Ignore, how to make that user completely disappear from the forum for me instead of seeing This user is currently ignored. text? Not possible under the current forum settings unless if you persuade the Admin to do something about it (that is, if he can even alter it) or another option is to convince some geek who's good at code to create a script or add-on for that specifically? ;DBeen seeing a lot of tools getting created lately to ease the forum usage. |