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I recently noticed a trend where no-KYC crypto casinos are becoming increasingly popular in regions with strict regulatory environments. What do you think are the key factors driving this shift, and how might it impact responsible gambling practices?

When thinking of the impact on responsible gambling practices it's not just the overcoming of strict regulatory environments I have in mind. But rather also easy access to illicit use such as by minors, etc..

I think that non-KYC crypto casinos are simply marketing or promotional efforts aiming individuals in countries with strict regulations. Because many people are unable to gamble and cannot access the majority of online casinos, the smart solution to target these people is to implement a non-KYC system that allows these people to access via VPN.

Regarding the impact, not only is it easy for minors to gain access, but I believe it is also attractive for some individuals to use non-KYC casinos for money laundering.

I'm not really sure if there are still a no-KYC crypto casinos now, and it could be part of their promotions and marketing. But if you look at it, they are bound to ask KYC later and they will say that they have the right to do that if they suspect that someone might be 'cheating' them. So it's sort of misnomer.


Of course, they should really be strict and not let minor play on their casinos and KYC could be one. Or the obvious, it's the parent that should be looking at their kids and make sure that they are not using their parents credit cards or any credentials just to be able to play online.

Minors have avenues to gamble even outside of crypto and that's because there's nonexistent enforcement about online gambling. Counter strike skins believe it or not is one of the main sources of online gambling for minors... Nothing has been done to prevent it over the last 10 years or so.

Maybe one day governments will start serious enforcement against online gambling, but so far the opposite seems to be happening. To get a license to operate legally online seems to be getting easier and easier. As of crypto casinos with no KYC, it's a natural by product of this industry growing.

In the end of the day, even in legal online casinos, you know have to verify KYC once. Of you convince a relative to give you their account, you're set. Many minors play this way too. The only real security measure would be ID checks every session but I don't see that enforced by any online casino.

I don't think that major issues are kids playing them. KYC is rather new thing with crypto casinos anyway, and no-kyc casinos have always been popular.
Problems have more to do with the future regulations, where cashing out such amounts will become near impossibility because of fatf.

And if a casino is unregulated, you basically don't have rights as a player. You could be screwed over, and it would be all your fault for using such casinos. With regulated casinos, you have law on your side.

yeah there is a possibility of that but mostly it’s just people wanting to protect their privacy for real especially in these times where our data is so out in the open i think we do need to start protecting ourselves and i think more and more people are becoming more sensitive to their data being shared online

But I think the first thing to discuss here would be: how many casinos of those that claim to be guaranteed non-KYC are actually KYC as soon as a player hits a big one. I have seen this so many times and when you reach out to support anything and and ask whether the promise stands, the answer is often yes but after some time it's almost inevitable that someone shows up reporting about harsh KYC practices after they won big time.

The no KYC promise is quite often thin air because what are they going to do when there is some suspicious activity that does at least give them some reason to further look into the case and get data about the identity. A truly centralized no-KYC casino is rarely to be found, no? Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I have perceived the casino business over the years.

I think minors are going to access sites no matter what you do. There's always someone out there willing to help. Just like beer, I remember being 16 and it was no problem for me to find an adult to buy a case of beer for us kids. No, it's not legal but as long as we weren't out causing trouble we always had someone to buy us beer.

No kyc is a tactic like BitMaxz said. They're trying to get the business on their platform by allowing users to gamble without having to produce documents. Issue is is the casino safe to gamble on? Is the provably fair fair? Will they pull the rug and take everyone's money once they get $50,000 deposited?

All kinds of questions surrounding these types of sites.

The trend could be as a result of the strict regulation on casinos, which gamblers are trying so hard to avoid, or they are looking for means to break free from the restriction that is being imposed by their government on the gambling industry, which only unlicensed casinos can give them.

But I'm not sure if there is any way that can promote responsible gambling; no regulation and no monitoring means there could be a whole lot of illegal things that that casino can be used for, both by the player and the casino owners.

For minors, they just made it a bit easier for them; they don't need to go through any means of bypassing the over-18 laws before they can gamble since they are not required to declare their real age.

It would be helpful if you gave some examples of countries or societies in which casinos and bookies are being highly regulated and where those unlicensed non-KYC alternatives are becoming the norm, otherwise we lack of context and we are forced to assume so many things about what you are saying.
Anyways, the main concern of minors having access to gambling services is a valid one, since there is no identification process before signing up, it becomes trivial for a minor to start wagering money on those websites and without the supervision of any adult or tutor, it has become incredibly easy for minors to hide their online activities from their parents as it stands today.

Obviously, the owners of those unlicensed casinos could not care less about having teens and children gambling on their platforms, it is just more volume for their casinos and more chances to grow and profit from the vulnerable.

No, don't believe it.

There no such things (no-KYC). It's always came out with KYC on some condition, rules number one always read term & condition > CTRL + F > Search with KYC topic. You will find those, some casino allowed player play without do verification first but always be ready to KYC once they ask.

Never, and never believe.

There’s no such thing as no KYC casino especially if casino has a license. Many casino claims they are no KYC just because they doesn’t require KYC upfront upon registration but you will notice on their terms that they will ask you KYC anytime.

AFAIK, Responsible gambling is dedicated for gamblers to play responsibly and not about the legality of their game but I do get the point on what you are trying to express here.

Basically the non-KYC crypto casino does it to attract users to play on their platform because of the strict regulations as you said. and it is true that this can lead to illegal use such as minors to play on their platform, but I see that previously there was also a platform that allowed users to play on their site without having to do KYC first, and in the end the site required its users to do KYC. So from there I feel that it will not always be non-KYC, but in the future the platform will ask its users to do KYC. Even so, as far as I know, the non-KYC crypto casinos still inform every new user to be responsible, and one of them is to play at the specified age.

By the way, I just saw that there is a similar topic that is also interesting to read about kyc and non-kyc casinos, maybe you are also interested in reading the discussion.

Here it is : No KYC vs KYC enabled casinos (Facts you need to know) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5467246.0)

We should just know this and have peace, regulation cannot be acheived by hundred percent, gambling is one of the ways in which some finds their comfort to do, there have been platforms that do not requires kyc before gambling, for us to see how increasing this platforms are going is telling us something, that people are tired of kyc and would prefer to be privacy conscious even in gambling, if you can recall well, most of the gambling platforms today are online crypto websites and there is no how many of these users will not cherish and value their privacy, knowing the implications and risk of where they were coming from before accepting to crypto gambling platforms, they know what they needed, we can't control the abuse quite alright if there is no kyc, but it's still something not to worry about if the percentage of the abuse is minimal than when it's been obvious.

Policies and regulations are normal, they're regulated so that is to be expected.

There is more to that. These regulators think that money is being washed through the casinos and that's one way to find out who are the abusers of these platforms. And so, that's how they deal with them and that's to implement KYC even these casinos don't even want to but they have to comply for the sake of their business.

It’s a contradictory and I doubt a casino is operating legally on a country with strict regulatory environment without any AML policy because it’s a must for a business to obey the law.

It’s not about a question of responsible gambling rather it’s a breach of their license or they are facing legal charges when they keep operating on the country that doesn’t allowed them to operate.

You have raised a great concern but then for others it's quite different as they may not be seeing it in that regards,  maybe they just want to continually remain anonymous and so they cannot conform to a KYC casino where their identity becomes unveiled to the casino and putting them at risk of possible data hack and exposing their information out there which they probably do not want to share so they rather stick to the non KYC casinos. Hopefully they find a way around restrictions for minors.

A non-kyc casino is raised by demands of gamblers to continue to become anonymous. Strict regulation only indicates that gamblers who like to be anonymous cannot achieve that and they cannot enjoy their game. A non-kyc changes this and they'll attract their customers easily.

Responsible gambling has no relationship with a non-kyc. There are more gambling advertise that kids are exposed to. There are more parents.who are not parenting their kids rights. It is the patents , the government that should be blamed not the non-kyc which is just a another model of a casino business.

Casinos that implement a no KYC are not for long-term; they are usually new casinos  trying to attract new users, and these users believed that they will not do a KYC only to find out that they later changed their terms.
Casinos that do not ask for KYC are targeted by promotional bonuses, so its not to their advantage if they keep implementing no KYC.
The gambling community trusts casinos that ask for KYC because they see that they are compliant with gambling regulators.

I agree with this.

They just call themselves non-KYC because it sounds better when marketing their business to a KYC-averse crowd. But eventually they demand KYC, especially when it is time to withdraw money in large amounts. But we cannot expect casinos to dodge legal responsibilities. If they did, would they be trusted businesses?

That’s not for sure. I don’t believe that’s the effect not having to update on your profile some KYC veritable document

Many gamblers most of all enjoys, online gambling because of the privacy it provides. Your not judged, no one knows what your doing or is up to until you do otherwise. While some gamblers might use it for money laundering and staff, use it for a by pass to some do the abnormalities on KYC casinos and bookies, no KYC doesn’t translate to scam. It’s a means to prevent it.

But the concept of "non-KYC crypto casinos" is a somewhat misleading concept and I think only the naive will believe that this type of casinos actually exist. Some casinos claim in the early stages of launch that they will not require KYC verification procedures and that any gambler anywhere in the world can use the platform without restrictions or conditions. Of course, any reasonable person will conclude that this is almost impossible for any casino that wants to operate within a clear regulatory and legal framework.
These casinos will quickly change their policies after they get a large number of users and before the authorities notice them, who will not hesitate to impose accounting procedures once they discover this, or they will quickly turn into scam schemes.

How would you define responsible gambling anyway? Is it a personal kind of thing where you try to manage yourself and not succumb to overspending money into gambling? Cause if it's that then I honestly think no kyc casinos popping out not a problem at all.

If you wanted to talk about minors and stuff, it's not the casino's problem imo, I mean they're called minors for a reason. They should be supervised and the casino has no responsibility on doing that. What you think KYC was for that reason? No, it was just to save their own asses when cases like money laundering comes up lol.

I am curious about what casinos that are "No-KYC" are you talking about, I've seen a lot of casinos that advertise themselves as "No-KYC" yet in their Terms and Conditions they still can ask you to perform KYC as per Regulations that they follow.

The main reason for offshore non-KYC gambling sites is because of the government of some nations having strict rules against gambling. You mentioned this yourself and you are correct.

Also crypto can be part of it. I have not noticed any crypto casino in my country. The local casinos prefer local currency but I noticed many people in my country prefer to gamble with cryptocurrencies like bitcoin and USDT, using an offshore gambling sites.

Then teach your children how not to gamble. There are many ways that children can be able to access gambling but having the right education against it for minors can be helpful.

I feel like its not a great way to launder money though, because non-KYC casinos would be under more risk than regulated casinos down the line and perhaps that could also put them in a spot to be investigated by the authorities or something along those lines, unless of course a non-KYC casino is completely legal in whatever country you're in. Are there legal non-KYC casinos? I feel like all casinos are usually held to some extent at some sort of accountable measure by some governing or financial authority.

Well, the bottom line has already been said, that many of the casinos that advertise themselves as KYC-free today actually do have KYC especially if you win a good amount and try to withdraw. But there are still a few that are truly KYC free and to answer the OP's question I don't think they are nullifying responsible gambling. They don't usually have responsible gaming measures, that's true, but betting in a regulated casino that has them doesn't solve anything either because the one who is a degenerate gambler even if he excludes himself from a casino if he gets a compulsion to keep betting has a lot more to choose from.

I think most people dont like to give away their personal data even if they are not involved in money laundering, they just dont want to.

So when a No-kyc casino comes up in comparison to a kyc casino, the former is the preferred choice. Responsibly gambling or not is a different thing, because the burn on the pocket is ultimately the same, does not depend on the casino's kyc terms. If you are spending money that you are earning, you will end up with the same loss in any other casino.

Minors though, can be stopped by KYC, that is one good thing.

Responsible gambling? No-KYC casinos relate to or determine that, most casinos don't care about you but your money regardless of whether or not they are KYC casinos or no-KYC casinos.

This care and genuine intention is subjective and is based on the personality behind the casinos, so you can see good features, programs and articles about responsible gambling on no-KYC casinos at times and not see with on that of the KYC casinos, and vice versa, so what is the point?

And as for the government, they are mostly irresponsible and unserious in most countries. It's possible they could have been bribed in most corrupt countries, or don't just care or are irresponsible and clueless.

Do they still really exist? I mean, it's going to be difficult to keep it running if the government is against it.

Let's say it does. I think it does nullify the responsible gambling factor because many who might play will be minors as they can do it without being stopped by the system and the legal requirements. When it comes to legal-aged gamblers, this is where it could go out of control as they can also use it for evil means. i.e. Money laundering.
Also, the taxation part is where it becomes another trouble. There will be a time that we need to withdraw and we will still have to pass through digital money application questions on were we got the money which will be hard to explain.

KYC or No KYC does not cause gamblers to become responsible or irresponsible in gambling, KYC can prevent minors from gambling but there are some of these minors that can have access of buy KYC verified accounts or they can use someone else IDs to verify the account want to use. Responsible gambling is related  to one's attitude and decision making. When there's not strong decision against gambling addiction by an individual who gambles, then he can become addicted.

No KYC casinos are possible to nullifying responsible gambling, but you should know the number of real No KYC casinos is pretty damn low compared to KYC casinos. I think Average Joes can't find real No KYC casinos because they easily get trapped with casinos that promote to be temporary No KYC. So in the end they will be asked to verify their accounts and they will blame the casino since they can't fulfill it.

Well, I have not heard of any legal non-KYC casinos yet, but as I previously stated, it is just for marketing purposes to target these people with no restrictions, and I believe they will ask for KYC if they become popular. This will become legal once they reach the required number of gamblers at their casino. I am not a casino owner, but based on previous casinos, I have heard that they initially promote the casino, then after a few months, it becomes legal and then requests KYC.

I don’t see it invalidating responsible gambling but more on giving anonymity to its players. It only aimed to increase its users privacy, by not asking personal details and documents that would reveal the players personal identity. However, on the other hand, it’s more prone on committing fraud and money laundering due to lack of verification processes. But overall, this kind of habit only depends to what kind of gambler the player is.

Online casinos are a threat generally to impulsive gamblers because the casinos are easily accessible. Now talking about no- KYC casinos (that is if they even exist), it is a big threat to the society because there won't be any opportunity to screen the gamblers to know if they are up to the age of gambling and also to prevent some fraudulent activities going on with the casino.

Even though some gamblers prioritize privacy, we should also appreciate the fact that KYC has been helpful in keeping the online gambling platforms sane.

Underage individuals don't have access to sources of money to fund gambling practice. If they are going to gamble, it's going to be with pocket money, mostly given by their parents. Then, it's responsability of the parents to investigate where their children are spending the money.

We don't need KYC to protect people from gambling prejudices, and it's in fact good to hear non-KYC casinos are growing in popularity these days. The government wants to track all the steps of the citizens, as if they were government's slaves. The less the government knows about you, the better. Authorities should be concerned about criminals and mafias which have great influence in different regions, instead of making deals with them on the backgrounds and persecuting average citizens through taxation.

This must be how it works especially if you are using Bitcoin to fund your account or any other cryptocurrencies.
Another thing is if you ask gamblers, for sure they will select a platform easy to use and can bet as soon as possible once they visit your website, like less interaction to place a bet. And about the responsible gambling, I don't think this will matter to NO-KYC platforms because this comes with our personal behavior and development.

Today's minors understand computers no worse than adults, and sometimes even better. If we say that there should be some rules to limit children to adult resources, then such prohibitions will further ignite children's interest. Gambling and casinos without KYC, of course, will attract minors. But to prevent this, children should have reasonable parents who explain to them all the consequences. In addition, no matter how much we spoil children with pocket money, it is always necessary to control where and how children spend their money. I am also of the opinion that a casino without KYC is mostly marketing. There always comes that unexpected and, in the player’s opinion, extremely inopportune moment when you have to go through the KYC procedure.

Responsible gambling actually depends on how gamblers approach gambling, so even if it's KYC or non-KYC, it doesn't really matter because it's ultimately up to the gambler. Perhaps the definition of responsible gambling is for the rules to be enforced on the gamblers, but in reality, that's not effective since many casinos abuse their power by making baseless accusations against gamblers, especially when the gamblers are winning. So it’s not really responsible gambling anymore on the part of the casino or the regulators, as they don't have strong protection for the gamblers, which makes those measures seem pretty meaningless.

What do you mean by "responsible gambling"? I'm asking because I think that different people have different things in mind, when they use the term "responsible gambling". If you ask me, every gambler should be responsible for his decisions. If a gambler is irresponsible, no casino can make him responsible. Probably 90% of the gamblers aren't responsible and nobody could ever make them responsible.
Some casinos have self-exclusion policies, but I do think that most casinos won't limit their own revenue and profits just to look as if they are encouraging "responsible gambling". Most non-KYC casinos are scams, so everyone should try them at their own risk.

I don't quite see too much of an impact of non-KYC gambling platforms when it comes to responsible gambling habits as it will depend on the gambler itself whether or not they'll responsible to what they're doing. However, it may give a lot of access for restricted age users or minors to be able to freely chose these platforms anonymously especially the gambling has been widely promoted on multiple streaming platforms.

Still, people may still choose these non -KYC casinos as it may give a sense of security when it comes to personal identity knowing that crypto was known for being anonymous. However, being anonymous may lead to illicit and wrongful doings such as fraud and money laundering.

What we nullify by using no-KYC casinos is following the regulations, since we're not following the law. As long as we don't get into trouble, of course, we'll use decentralized casinos. But you said they're getting popular, I think decentralized casinos have been around for a while but most gamblers still prefer traditional casinos that aren't as strict with KYC, so I don't get where the idea of their rising popularity comes from.

People wanted to gamble anonymously especially those who use cryptocurrency for gambling.  So we can say that it is anonymity that is the key factor to drive this shift.  With anonymity, they can play on the platform anywhere they are since it is highly possible that there is no region restriction in this platform. 

I believe its impact on responsible gambling is negative since there are features disabled or can easily be circumvented when the player has a change of heart concerning responsible gambling.

One example is the possible lack of a deposit limit on the platform and make the player to gamble an amount more than they usually spend.  With the missing KYC, the player can create several accounts which can be used to bypass gambling exclusions if they have a change of heart after their request of an exclusion is granted.



True with anonymous gambling and not regulated, minors can have easy access to the platform.  With several security features disabled, this minors can have all the freedom to access the site and may enhance the possibility of getting addicted.

At least, that seems to be the case with casinos with a minimum of regulation or a minimum of volume which attracts regulators, otherwise they are closed down and never to be seen again.
The current trend for casinos which are big enough and wish gamblers to have a try of their services without them having to go through KYC is simply to delay the request of personal documents until it is actually necessary (when gamblers withdraw money). It is obvious people will be more likely to submit their personal information when there is money to claim rather when they are just joining in.

Though, I must say, unregulated casinos and casinos which do not ask for personal information exist but their future is always uncertain and often they close and take the money of their gamblers with them, an exit scam. It is better just to go through a little bit of hassle and partake in gambling on regulated casinos instead of venturing on unknown webs, which offer little to no warranty. And of course, take a look at their terms of service before depositing.

I believe he is pertaining to centralized casino that promotes NO KYC despite having a license from gambling regulatory board that mandates KYC.

I think this is the main target of this thread and not the decentralized casino as they usually don’t need KYC due to no one regulates them now. The contradiction part is a casino offer No KYC while their ToS states different that requires KYC.

No KYC casinos are like a coin with two faces, one is good and the other is bad. On the positive side, these platforms offer privacy for all players in all regions with an ease of access. For many, the ability to gamble without handing over sensitive personal information is a great deal for them especially for crypto enthusiasts who value decentralization.

However, the other side is where concerns like lack of KYC processes can create loopholes for illicit activities such as access by minors (something parents should take responsibility) money laundering, and even gambling addiction going unchecked.

Perhaps, these platforms cater to a growing demand for privacy, the challenge is finding a balance between the two good sides. Maybe, integrating anonymous yet responsible measures, like self exclusion tools or crypto based age verification systems may help reducing these risks.

No-KYC crypto casinos are becoming increasing popular because there are people who want variety. And out of trying out a new variety they like it more than KYC. I cannot see how a person will gamble responsibly because of a kyc casino and then because he uses a non-kyc casino will then gamble without control. Responsible gambling is borne of out the gamblers disposition and discipline not the type of casino.

It actually got some attention its because to many people doesn't like the idea about submitting their private details on a online platform. But actually it's hard to trust those casino which didn't follow what the law dictate to them.

Since provably that there's big chance that those type of casino will turn into a scam. That's why I choose to gamble on reputable casino plus compliance with the law since this gives us confidence that there's less chance for them to pull a scam. Those concerns you said here might provable happen especially those minor have easy access with those online casino, but for sure if government would notice that there's certain illegal activities are happening for sure they would sue those platforms and ask to comply or yet they restrict that or totally ban its access in their country.

Money, nothing else!
In order to get a license you need to obey the rules, obeying the rules means you need to pay staff for extra checks, you need to pay taxes you need to fully cooperate with the law, be it financial aspects and inspections or criminal and money laundering charges.

Now if you don't plan to obey the laws, what's the point in asking for KYC and driving away customers?
Simple as this!


That's the only downside?
The downside is that if the casino cheats you have nowhere to go because you, yourself knowingly from the strat broke the law by playing on it.
Good luck dragging them to court!
 

This does not mean that the casino is irresponsible, but this casino does not have regulations from the current government which basically must do KYC if they want to get direct legality from the government as a form of business that is established in a country that has rules against casinos.

However, if you look at basic accountability, such as making payments to gamblers who experience problems or doing like most professional casinos in serving their customers even without a license from the government, because it used to be like that and relied more on the trust system that was built without having to do KYC, it's just that it will not be easy to operate in various countries that have strict regulations.

I think of course casinos without KYC are in demand in the world and countries where it is necessary. But if I admitted that I could play there earlier, now I don’t want it, because it is much easier to have more guarantees with casinos that have KYC and that are in the legal field of the state. I just don’t want unnecessary problems, it’s better to be calm and even pay a little more. With KYC , of ​​course, there are more guarantees for jackpot payments that will go without problems, but before that moment, you need to read all the rules if we have to defend ourselves. Generally speaking, I don’t need NON KYC , although I understand perfectly well who uses them.

You seem right, but we shouldn't use the term "no KYC casino." Instead, they should be called illegal casinos, because no KYC casinos only apply to decentralized ones. But these no KYC (illegal) casinos can be too risky, and people are now looking for licensed casinos. As far as I know, I haven't seen any unregistered casinos that are popular just even on the forum.

You're absolutely right, if you're expecting to win big in the future, that no-KYC status of yours might backfire since it could be used against you by the casino. The thing is, some casinos promoting no-KYC are actually registered and simply don't enforce their license providers' rules very strictly, but then there are others that are just misleading us; they claim they don't require KYC, yet in reality, no regulated casino operates without it.

Regarding casinos that use the KYC verification method and those that use a no-KYC verification method, it is mainly a matter of legal regulations. If it were a genuine choice for the casinos, then most of them would omit it. This is more a matter of laws and governments that require it, that is, a matter of legal compliance and governmental regulation. Governments impose these laws to prevent illicit activities such as money laundering and the financing of terrorism, ensuring that casinos operate transparently and safely.

The illicit use is probably a bigger issue than its impact on responsible gambling because gambling in general shouldn't be easily accessible for minors, but if a casino has no requirement for KYC and doesn't ask a customer to provide any personal identification, anyone from any age group can access such a platform and use it for gambling as long as they also have access to cryptocurrencies, and that isn't a problem as well thanks to decentralized exchanges.

The reason behind the trend is probably the never-ending demand of cryptocurrency enthusiasts about protecting their privacy and their non-willingness to provide personal information to such platforms. Now, a business would surely think of ways they can use to increase their revenue.

No KYC gambling should be seen as a privilege for us to grab on our right to privacy gambling, knowing that most of the gambling sites ask for KYC and this looks unpleasant to us because not everyone can afford in giving out their information online, this should now not be seen as a yardstick to irresponsible and wreckless gambling, we have to know and understand the difference in these, even though on every system, abuse is inevitable, but we should decide of not taking the wrong moves when gambling.

The only reason why there will be a trend where non-kyc casinos are becoming more popular and increasing in their number of users is due to the fact that most gamblers hate kyc and everything that has to do with it, so, most of this gamblere are abandoning the casino that have made kyc compulsory for those ones where they wouldn't be asked to submit their document for whatever reason.

But on the other hand, I do not think that non-kyc casinos are becoming that much popular since alot of the casino enabled casinos are still very much flourishing and doing very well for themselves, most casinos that come out as non-kyc casinos are mostly ones that are brand new and have not gone through the process of registering the business and acquiring the necessary licenses required to run the casino legitimately, so, this is to say that even those who use such casinos are talking a risk they don't even know about, or may not know about since a casino like this have close down any time and run away without any trace.

And speaking of minors participating in gambling, this days, I do not think kyc can be or is effective enough in fighting against minors participating in gambling, many of them use the document of their elderly ones to verify their account without the elderly one even knowing it.

Generally, crypto casinos are meant to enable No-KYC but the downside of it is against the law and exposes young people to play without being traced and banned. However, some casinos go with boycotting the rules and allow players to gamble without asking for KYC, still, as soon as the casino begin to garner more users they'll tighten up or watch the government help do it for them. Aside the underaged taking an advantage of not submitting documents, irresponsible gaming has little to do with KYC. It's a whole subject on its own.

I'll only say it's a privilege if they're truly a no-KYC gambling site. I get that most of the casinos and sportsbooks I use now don't require KYC, but it's likely they'll enforce it in the future since they're regulated and their license providers want them to follow the law. So, it's only no-KYC temporarily, enjoy it while it lasts but be ready for the possibility that you'll need to comply with KYC later.

I dont know what OP wants to know or what is the special thing he thinks he is seeing, i mean in every market is a parallel black market. No matter what goods or services we are talking about. SO if you have normal casinos you are gonna have for sure casinos with no regulations , or better to say without following regulations who can maybe give players a more big margin.

There is not much thing as not that strict KYC because KYC is KYC. They all pretty much follow the same requirements. People who are sensitive with KYC will see no difference between the strict ones and non strict ones.
Maybe from the popularity of online crypto casino. People are looking for decentralized to use their cryptos.

Casino owners are running businesses and I don't think that they really care about your KYC, they want as many people as possible to gamble and lose more than they'll win. I think that a casino might be loose on KYC matters but as soon as their site starts to gain more users they'll start to implement KYC. Another reason for a none KYC casino to perhaps ask for it could be after a huge win, they'll likely want a serious verification before payment. We should accept KYC as a part of crypto casino requirements, even when we're on a none KYC casino, they might demand for it when you least expect. People gamble irresponsibly on KYC casinos so I also also don't think that it's basically because of KYC.

I recently make use of a gambling platform and they stated it clearly on the homepage below that gambling could be addictive and is for 18years old plus, which I see as their own little way of contributing to the sanity of gambling, whereby underaged are restricted from gambling, if we all can make it a responsibility, then most of the younger ones will gain the exposure required about gambling, we can't now because of this deny our own self of the privacy needed, others are doing it doesn't mean we can also contribute to irresponsible gambling habits.

I have seen such messages and restrictions feature on many reputable casinos and even stake has such addiction prevention features so for sure in as much as casinos are out to make profits from gamblers, the welfare of they players is still very much on the check and that is why we have some key features that can help a gambler exit a site if he notices that he had become addicted such features like (self-exclusion) this have helped many gambler's to overcome the hold of addictions, casinos also have an academy call addiction prevention were some messages and promotions are done to raise the awareness of addictions and its negative impact and how gambler can avoid getting dip into addictions.

The discipline will always come from the person himself. However, some casino features will indeed help the gambler to avoid some troubles such as offering the self-exclusion to the gambler and restricting the allowed age to enter their site. However, as users can go around on these restrictions, it is now on their hands how to contain themselves in this very addictive activity.
The no-kyc of the site will just give access to gamblers who don't want to disclose their identity. But the state of addiction would also be the same as it depends on how the gambler will use the site for his gambling activities.

I agree with you. Every person has the right to privacy. It is one of the natural human rights.

However, in the modern world, this rule is constantly violated. Governments and corporations do not recognize the right of people to anonymity and privacy. And all these mandatory KYC and AML procedures are aimed at combating the anonymity and privacy of people. Yes, in the modern world there are criminals and crimes...

Yes, in the modern world, offenses are committed and minors sometimes gamble.

However, in my opinion, it is wrong to limit the basic natural rights of all people because of private situations.

Based on these considerations, I have a positive attitude towards online casinos that operate without KYC.

Casinos with absolute no KYC policies are rare, even when a KYC claims no mandatory KYC it doesn't mean they will never ask for KYC. It's just triggers only when they suspect a user to be laundering or violating any other terms. Even those casinos have listed banned and restricted countries so it's the people to be blamed for bypassing the limits.

Actually the 18+ caution isn't scary to the young underaged, it's like a nitro, they just can't wait to become adults. However, the whole task is not on the casino to execute since there are in it for money and growth. It's also the duty of parents and relatives who are above 18 to stop permitting young people to use their documents for KYC.

And it wouldn't be for the next 10 or more. Because it's considered as gaming and not gambling. Thousand games have or use gambling practices and basically introduce gambling to minors but there are games so... :-\


As long as governments earn money from casinos, they won't force anything against them. Even if they know what happening they don't (really) care.


Online casinos are the only ones that can be a No KYC or find/ use other ways for people to gamble. Some of them use some "extra measures of safety" by forcing players to verify every time they ask for withdrawal. However, they don't do it in every deposit. So it's easy to understand that is a one-way "security" and for sure isn't for people's benefit, even if they try to convince us of the opposite. Physical casinos aren't the same situation.

Those who truly cares about their identity would never cease to use that casino and of a true there are some transaction that would occurs on those gambling site if the platform suspect an illegal activity they wouldn't mind requesting for additional verification methods to proof source of funds, if i am not mistakenly I have came across a post like this on forum or somewhere else. Because people who cares about their identity do avoid a casino that requires for identification and move down to non-kyc which already is their target not because they are focusing on minus or underage. But the real question should be how would they control and regulate their site towards underage?

It is better to read the rules in advance to understand why a player can be asked for a CIC, even if the casino assures that it will never ask. Of course, they will never ask, especially if the player is losing. But if the player is winning and even larger amounts, then of course, at the most unexpected moment, the casino can easily say that if you do not pass our CIC, then we will not be able to pay you the winnings. In general, I have heard a lot of stories, but I realized for myself that I do not really want to face such situations, so I would rather play in casinos that have a CIC. Although, of course, I understand that not everyone has such an opportunity due to prohibited jurisdictions.

Your questions answers is just like will be a contradictory answer because we all know kyced and non-kyc both have positive and the negative side.
Like when you are a privacy ethustian person then it will be always first priority for your to have a non-kyc casino, actually I mean the decentralized casino not those who were just promoting them non-kyc casino for only marketing purposes. And we all know the importance of the privacy and just if I say here because of the privacy Satoshi Nakomoto hide his idently if it was just a silly matter then why do he have to hide is identy.

But it also not appreciatable that when the children play the casino and also the used for money laundering but I don't think this is nullifying the responsible gambling because these child on gamble and also the money laundering can stop from it's roots.

Now that we are living in a world on which regulation is really that becomes tightening up on different industries on which this doesnt really just that limit out on gambling industry but also in other as well. When it comes to practices and influences then its not shocking that there will be those NO-KYC places on which that still exist out. Come to think that this crypto market space had become that popular because of that anonymity whenever they do play up into these places on which this is something that cant be denied, but on the time that as years passing by on which regulation that becomes even more rampant on which its understandable that governments wont really be allowing up that these businesses will really be running up without having these taxes on which its understandable that they will really be that sooner or later be regulated or else they wont be able to run up the business and this is why we've seen those illegal ones because they dont want to pay up taxes of course.

Yes you are right. The increase of the non kyc on casinos has become looming following casino regulatory compliances in respective regions which either be a ban of gambling or disciplinary orders by the authorities.
This made it be that users are likely to be more convenient or only accessible to casinos from other places which are not connected to the nature of restrictions they gets from their places.

Many countries these days have internet service provider level of blocks, which means the potential for a site to be blocked (but still accessible via VPN) by the government or regulator is a possibility. Let's face it though, there are simply too many sites out there, in so many countries and jurisdictions with different laws, that a player with money will always have an outlet to spend it. Responsible gambling has always relied on the willpower of a player as the most important requirement, but then the whole thing becomes redundant - because responsible players know their limits and don't go beyond it, irresponsible players have little self control and will find ways to gamble regardless of any blocks put up.

While the casinos are respecting boundaries, but they cannot ignore the fact that the jurisdiction or territorial laws have to be applied on them as well. With those places that they cannot add to their support and the people that lives into those restricted territories, they need to cast them out and not allow to play into their casinos. And those that are from countries that are allowed, they have to comply with the KYC because they said so and that's what is happening for most of the casinos because of being pressured by their government too. They need to comply as you have said because if they don't, they'll be closed or put some penalties if known by the regulators that they didn't complied.

The implementation of KYC in online casinos is only a regulation set by the government so that no criminal acts go unnoticed.
As in the practice of money laundering that is often carried out through online casinos, so this is an important indication that KYC is really necessary even though it is contrary to the privacy of others.

Online casinos that implement KYC and AML have given an appeal or ToS which of course has been read by users before entering the online casino platform, it has been explained that KYC and AML will be implemented, but some casinos will implement KYC if it exceeds the maximum limit of the allowed withdrawals, If withdrawing with a large amount then it is necessary to apply KYC.

Casinos that actually operate without KYC must certainly get an audit from the government as well, but of course the government that is under the auspices of the casino will really provide KYC implementation regulations, otherwise it will be said to be an Illegal Casino.

It is not easy to have a casino that is no-KYC because many casinos has been regulated by the regulator and impose KYC to their members. Maybe you can see a small list of no-KYC casino. When the regulator come, that casino will be ask to follow their regulation.

Maybe that will not impact to the responsible of gambling practices because that will depend on each gambler. They must know responsibility will on the gamblers side and not because the casino or even regulator. When someone gambling, he must know about responsibility, discipline, and other things to avoid the problem that can happen in gambling.

The factors contributing to the spread of anonymous casinos are unjustifiably excessive regulation, when gambling is prohibited in many regions. Also, the availability of KYC and a license is not at all a guarantee of the casino's reliability. Reputation has always been the most important and only guarantee. Reputation is earned over the years.
Regarding responsible play, I have a different definition of this term. In my understanding, this is the ability of a gambler to self-restraint.

Most of the casinos we play at are already regulated, yet many of them don’t implement KYC, which makes them more attractive to gamblers. But it all depends on how strict their regulators are or how big they get, once they grow too much, regulators will eventually notice.

Take Stake, for example. It’s a well-known casino, and I had an account there for years, gambling without KYC. But last year, they set a deadline requiring users to comply with KYC by the end of the year, or else their accounts would be restricted to withdrawals only. That’s the likely scenario for any no-KYC casino today, it might not stay that way forever.

No KYC gambling is only a privilege for us to have an opportunity to gamble being anonymous, having everything that concerns our personal data conserved without giving them to any platform, this is what most crypto gamblers desires, because they know the value of privacy when it comes to dealing with any third party platforms in relating our information, so all these are not measures for irresponsible n gambling behaviors, but to help us achieve securing what we value when gambling.

Yes and not only that, if you are in a very strict country makes you can play when you maybe cant for the laws.

Crypto world make gambling without KYC much more easy and a super fast way, but in the real world in develop countries that was very impossible to have. Or you are gonna fall into very suspicious and dark markets.

The casino may not implement KYC to their members because of many things. Some people do the same thing repeatedly so ordinary people will not think too complicated. The reputable casinos will not let other people say many bad things about them. They don't search for the enemies but they want to cooperative while investigate it and check everything. If they don't mind, let go to the other manor and see what will happen.

Gotcha, I bet you once they finally become legal and they request KYC they probably ask for some record of all transactions or something in the time it was not legalized perhaps and so maybe some form of trace becomes possible if that instance occurs. It seems like if you want to have no KYC on anything it either needs to be a start up venture like you're saying where they aren't as well known yet and the authorities aren't yet quite aware of it's existence, not just for gambling but anything crypto related basically demands KYC and AML if you really want to cover your ass an owner/ operator, which you definitely should be inclined to given the nature of this business and the potential consequences that could ensue if you're stuck in between a rock and a hard place.

You are correct that casinos struggle to operate without KYC because of strict rules. Many casinos must follow these rules but some manage to operate without KYC for while until authorities intervene. You are also right that responsible gambling depends on individual player. It is up to each person to be responsible and disciplined and aware of their actions when gambling. Casinos and authorities can offer guidance and protection but it is the player job to avoid bad habits.

If not for regulatory compliance between casinos and regulators, crypto casinos should have just been operating without the need for KYC; they can only get licensed with regulators to get the permits to operate and serve their citizens.

But due to the known attitudes of government, as they want to watch over everyone, it's the reason why they have made KYC a compulsory something for gambling platforms to follow, so seeing a casino that offers their service without the need for KYC is indeed a good thing for gamblers, but on the other hand, it shows that they are not being watched by any government agency, which could, to some length, be risky in terms of fund safety unless for those that have a reputation to protect.

That is certain and clear, some studies have proven online gambling sites that are the target of minors.
I think the online casino that applies the KYC feature alone can trick the casino with fake KYC, what else online casino without KYC.

For me there is no responsibility in gambling for users, whether casino is not-kyc or KYC casino, illegal or legal, it all depends on the user and the casino, actually who often have no troubled online gambling online gambling, users can do multi-ankun and also site voters get bogem repeatedly.

it depends on how the gambler is, whether it is kyc or not, if from the beginning he is not responsible for their gambling, then in the end he will become addicted ... because simply responsible gambling starts from oneself, kyc is only one way for casinos to prevent money laundering, limit minors, and regulatory compliance. while responsible gambling starts from self-awareness and control, then assisted by the restrictions imposed by the gambling platform. if the gambler does not have good gambling habits, then even if all casinos require kyc or not, he will still gamble in any way.

First of all, whether a casino is KYC or non-KYC does not have a direct effect on whether the individual engages in responsible or irresponsible gambling. If you go to a KYC casino and spend more money than usual, or spend your whole day there, it is still considered irresponsible gambling. The KYC casino will not monitor you, chase you out, or log you off the site. In fact, they are looking for your money, so they will let you play on.

On the other hand, non-KYC casinos can accommodate minors and facilitate other illegal activities because the are a so-called 'safe space' that allow some players to engage in shady activities. Also, non-KYC casinos have a large population because many people want to bypass KYC requirements. Some individuals don't want to provide their legal documents for because they are insecure about sharing their sensitive information with the gambling site or are looking for ways to engage in illegal activities using the gambling site.

Is NO-KYC nullifying responsible gambling? the answer in my opinion is it has nothing to do with KYC casino or non KYC casino as long you are responsible for your gambling with or without the KYC it doesn't really matter.
KYC is used by the government to know your customers and to be part of Anti Money Laundry system thatwas  created to protect its users or maybe gov just want your data haha.

Responsible gambling is your responsibility and casinos just give some advice that gambling is high risk game and sometimes they put help line to stop gambling in the footer of the site

Even if we talked in a context in which those people who eventually get addicted did not have access to internet casinos, they would still continue to gamble away their money in some way, if their addiction is strong enough to drive then in such direction.
There are establishments, like betting shops which dont care to ask for much personal information, as long as one has money to bet. Lotteries do not ask their gamblers to submit their information in order to buy a ticket either. I have even seen people forming and opening Whatsapp groups in order for them to bet on specific leagues and sports, being one of the members the one in charge of giving custody to the money of all of them.

So in reality, KYC is not a real barrier when comes to people gambling responsibly it or not, someone will continue to be irresponsible regardless they are asked to hand their personal information over to a third party.

I think not rare but maybe their numbers are getting lesser now.

Yes. But that is obvious already. And we must not be confident that we will never get asked for it even if we know that it is possible and even if we already read their rules and regulations. It is also better if we are willing to do the KYC, just in case. Only those sites that claims they have no KYC even mandatory are the real ones that are legit to not have a KYC. We can verify it by going on their TOS page.

Another thing is by asking their customer support and admins. Those that has a restricted and banned list are definitely the casinos that has a KYC. Yes it is only our fault if we got caught out bypassing their limits. It is not their fault to have those rules because they are only following the orders of the government.

Exactly, NO-KYC does not do anything in order to make gambling more irresponsible than it already is even with KYC. It is all because of the players behavior, if they are addicted they won't give a f*ck about KYC or not, in fact I have seen quite a lot of them complaining in the chat of reputable casinos that they got an email from the very casino that you had made enough deposits for today, one of them had lost 10 deposits in a row and the casino sent them an email acknowledging their status and somewhat trying to limit the damage these persons were doing to themselves. Now don't get me wrong, the casino does not give a shit about the gambler well being, they just want to be complaint with the law and responsible gaming, so next day the guy deposited another 10 times and lost another ten times. Nothing to do with KYC or non KYC.

Whether they are responsible or not depends on their own mindset, whether they want to do KYC or not certainly does not have much effect on them.
KYC is only needed for Casinos to know who their players are and of course to avoid illegal transactions that could occur.

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Reducing or changing the rules from No-KYC which then accepts KYC with some specific rules or conditions, such as the maximum amount achieved or large transactions made.

This is also done to follow the regulations set by the jurisdiction of the casino government, otherwise it will only be considered an illegal casino without an audit and regulation set by the government.

Your also right because casino can be control by regulator easily so casino will impose KYC to their members. Their member can not avoid that and will follow the new rules from the casino but they can move to other casinos that will not have a strictly rules. But that will only a matter of time before those casinos also impose KYC to them. The regulator want to control the casino remind of the income that the regulator will accept from gambling business as a tax. So when we really want to playing gambling without any problem, we should follow the regulation and always strictly limit ourselves using the funds that will not too big.

We all feel differently about our anonymity, power, regulators, laws and passing KYC. Each of us is right in our own way, so I don't see any problem when someone seeks to gamble at a gambling site that doesn't require KYC or gambles at illegal casinos. It's good that we have a choice. And in general, lately every exchanger and centralized exchange has in its arsenal AML-check wallet, so dirty funds can block even without KYC and refuse to exchange such funds. 

Personally, I think that even with KYC, minors still have access to casinos, so even non kyc casino changes nothing if you ask me for any one who wishes to access a kyc casino can still do unhindered as long as they have their way.

My only concern as regard non kyc casinos is that most of them are likely or will likely turn to scam, like I believe some users must have mentioned, scammers know that most gamblers hate kyc, and they might be taking advantage of this to launch non kyc casinos just for the sole purpose of scamming people, by this, my advice would be that gamblers be very careful when choosing a non kyc casino to gamble on.

KYC helps curb irresponsible gambling especially when underage kids try to gain access to different casinos. With proper verification no one under the age of 18 would be able to gamble, this is how it should be but it's quite disappointing that most casinos and bet sites no longer require KYC, this is the reason why a lot of kids get exposed to the dangers of irresponsible gambling. No-kyc encourages these irresponsible acts to go on and if it's left unchecked most of these kids of 16 to 17 will become chronic gamblers by when they are in their 20's. KYC must be implemented because of things like this, it goes a long way in controlling it.

Having KYC guarantees absolutely nothing. And not only in relation to the casino, but in general. It is enough to recall the FTX exchange as an example of fraud, which is "plastered" on all sides by KYC and regulatory documents. Customer identification was not invented for the safety of customers and their protection from fraud. It was invented to monitor customers and collect taxes from them for every breath.

I prefer to use the word "private" instead of anonymous used by you in this context. No-KYC gambling can shield us from anonymity, it's the further actions we take by using VPN, mixers etc that can help us further ensure some levels of anonymity. Anyone with good technologial intelligence that is determined to catch you can still easily trace you by using the normal gadgets and local IPs. The only good side of the no-KYC is that you don't share your data anyhow (privacy).

Indeed KYC does not provide us with 100% security in gambling or trading, but in this case, KYC becomes a wall that protects users or platforms from any possibility of illegal activities that harm all parties, I personally see KYC is not a problem that we should avoid, engven though we will provide our identity data but usually third parties will store the data safely, because after all the kyc is based on compliance with regulations applied by the relevant authorities.
Btw I don't see what happened to FTX as an example of fraud, because as far as I know FTX is a platform that experienced bankruptcy and we cannot equate it with fraud, even if you read the current news related to FTX, then you will find if they start making payments for compensation for users who lost assets in FTX.

Responsibility in gambling is a different thing from anonymity, but I can see how you all try to connect them. Because our money is now being monitored we try to be more responsible? I dont think that applied to gamblers in the past and nor will it affect them now. Gambling is based on the kick that winning leads to and to get that people will spend like they are addicted to the game.

Responsibilities are thrown aside for now, but eventually the sheer truth comes face to face then the regret phase starts.

KYC or not is part of the person's choice to anonymity. A responsible person IMO will use any casino they wish to with minimal spending.