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Title: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: worldtraveller321 on March 17, 2025, 10:17:49 AM
Question to the Crypto Community:

Have we been deceived about the true purpose of the crypto space?
For years, many have speculated about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto—the mysterious creator of Bitcoin. What if this person (or group) was never the benevolent innovator we were led to believe? What if, instead, Bitcoin was designed as a tool for global manipulation—an elaborate scheme to consolidate power, undermine democracy, and ultimately enslave people under a new financial order?
In recent years, we’ve witnessed an alarming rise of radical right-wing influence in crypto. Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency. This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question: Was this the plan all along?
Governments and powerful institutions have increasingly entered the crypto space, not to empower people, but to guide them toward predatory schemes. Crypto, once seen as a path to financial freedom, is now being weaponized to deepen economic enslavement—driving people into debt and ensuring they remain prisoners of a collapsing system.
We've also witnessed global events that suggest an orchestrated effort to dismantle democracy. An empire has recently fallen under the control of a single leader, who is dismantling institutions, plunging citizens into poverty, and pushing nations into unnecessary wars. Meanwhile, my own country is being threatened by foreign intervention—an invasion motivated by the desire to seize resources and impose control, ensuring the rich become richer while the rest suffer.
Adding to the suspicion, we now know that governments hold Bitcoin reserves—not as a tool for public benefit, but as a mechanism to hoard wealth for the elite while depriving ordinary citizens of financial power. This aligns with a disturbing trend within the crypto space itself, where major influencers and public figures have been exposed as dishonest operatives with ties to hate groups, oppression movements, and extreme ideologies. Is crypto being used as a weapon to usher in a global system of authoritarianism, racism, fascism, and communism—disguised as financial innovation?
Could it be that Bitcoin was never meant to liberate the people, but instead to serve as the ultimate tool for economic enslavement? Was Satoshi Nakamoto not a visionary, but a hidden world leader—one whose influence we now see on a global scale, yet whose identity remains deliberately concealed?
Was Bitcoin an elaborate scheme from the very beginning—a calculated ploy to create wealth for the few while robbing the many of their freedom and democracy?
What do you think? Have we all been deceived?


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: _act_ on March 17, 2025, 10:24:25 AM
Was Bitcoin an elaborate scheme from the very beginning—a calculated ploy to create wealth for the few while robbing the many of their freedom and democracy?
If an area has not been developed, you will see land to be very cheap there. But when developed, the lands are no more cheap but become expensive. Are people that bought land there later when it is expensive are deceived?

This is applicable to assets like bitcoin, silver and gold.

I am talking about bitcoin and not altcoins that are pump and dump scheme.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Gozie51 on March 17, 2025, 10:56:55 AM
Bitcoin is not related to scam, Ico, Eco or NFT or altcoins are not bitcoin which is decentralized and free from government control. Despite the regulation agenda that could be coming from Trump administration and his strategic reserve propaganda, it is just political because whether exchanges are mandated for KYC, you can still deal without exchange, P2P transaction are still valid with btc and you can hodl btc on your noncustodial wallet.

Moreover, it is greed that make people to invest in shit projects. If you want to be guaranteed of your crypto investment then putting your money in btc is the best.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 17, 2025, 11:30:46 AM
I'm not really sure if we can still have this mindset after all this years about Satoshi and his creation. I mean everything is on his White paper and we can read his posts in this community and what his goal and what he wanted to let his creation be.

So stop overthinking about Bitcoin, although it has evolved a lot as his plans is for it to be a payment scheme, nevertheless is it now an asset that people are making money. But I doubt what the OP speculate on what's the real purpose of Bitcoin or who Satoshi is.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: headingnorth on March 17, 2025, 12:19:41 PM
Bitcoin and altcoins are two completely different things. The latter are total scams. Bitcoin is not.
If you don't understand the difference then you shouldn't talking about (or investing in) something that you have no clue about.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: ABCbits on March 17, 2025, 12:27:56 PM
In recent years, we’ve witnessed an alarming rise of radical right-wing influence in crypto. Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency. This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question: Was this the plan all along?

Do you even read what you write? ICO, NFT and similar stuff are NOT Bitcoin.


What do you think?

You write something that's not really related with Bitcoin. About government owning and using Bitcoin, i should remind you that Bitcoin is permissionless, which means anyone could own and use Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: hero_the_bossman on March 17, 2025, 01:05:51 PM
I'm not really sure if we can still have this mindset after all this years about Satoshi and his creation. I mean everything is on his White paper and we can read his posts in this community and what his goal and what he wanted to let his creation be.

So stop overthinking about Bitcoin, although it has evolved a lot as his plans is for it to be a payment scheme, nevertheless is it now an asset that people are making money. But I doubt what the OP speculate on what's the real purpose of Bitcoin or who Satoshi is.

BTC is the ultimate store of value, currently.
In the future, it may change, but for now, we are where we are.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: BlackBoss_ on March 17, 2025, 01:13:28 PM
Have we been deceived about the true purpose of the crypto space?

In recent years, we’ve witnessed an alarming rise of radical right-wing influence in crypto. Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency. This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question: Was this the plan all along?
It is not responsibility of Bitcoin to guide what altcoins do.

ICOs, IDOs, IEOs, NFTs, GameFi, manydifferentToEarn and more, they are from altcoins and we all know altcoins are weak, useless and very easily to be abandoned by their developers or die by bear market and new trends.

When bear market lasts for several months up to two years, many altcoin projects die, and when a new bull run comes with many new trends, developers will abandon those altcoin projects to create new trendy ones and continue their honeypot activities from naive altcoin investors.

Altcoins go to far but they don't stop, and Bitcoin can not stop them.
How many cryptocurrencies failed? (https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed)
Don't buy altcoins because they are top altcoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430698.0)


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: FortuneFollower on March 17, 2025, 01:16:32 PM
Have we been deceived about the true purpose of the crypto space?

In recent years, we’ve witnessed an alarming rise of radical right-wing influence in crypto. Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency. This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question: Was this the plan all along?
It is not responsibility of Bitcoin to guide what altcoins do.

ICOs, IDOs, IEOs, NFTs, GameFi, manydifferentToEarn and more, they are from altcoins and we all know altcoins are weak, useless and very easily to be abandoned by their developers or die by bear market and new trends.

When bear market lasts for several months up to two years, many altcoin projects die, and when a new bull run comes with many new trends, developers will abandon those altcoin projects to create new trendy ones and continue their honeypot activities from naive altcoin investors.

Altcoins go to far but they don't stop, and Bitcoin can not stop them.
How many cryptocurrencies failed? (https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed)
Don't buy altcoins because they are top altcoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5430698.0)

BTC is BTC, and alts are alts. Some compare them, and it was done countless times, however, they serve different purposes, usually, not as genuine as the BTC's itself, but they still try in some cases (LTC, for example).


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Justbillywitt on March 17, 2025, 01:43:28 PM
Question to the Crypto Community:

Have we been deceived about the true purpose of the crypto space?
For years, many have speculated about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto—the mysterious creator of Bitcoin. What if this person (or group) was never the benevolent innovator we were led to believe? What if, instead, Bitcoin was designed as a tool for global manipulation—an elaborate scheme to consolidate power, undermine democracy, and ultimately enslave people under a new financial order?
In recent years, we’ve witnessed an alarming rise of radical right-wing influence in crypto. Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency. This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question: Was this the plan all along?

I have not been deceived, probably you are, when you thought the idea of investing in altcoins was better than that of those who said make your investment in bitcoin alone.  If 99% of crypto are scam according to you, at least bitcoin is not a scam. Bitcoin is that 1% that is not a scam. There is not sector of the economy that you will not see scam. There will always be people who will take advantage of what was intended for good, and use it in a bad way. That few elements are using bitcoin for the wrong purpose, doesn't mean that the entirety of bitcoin and the idea behind it is a scam. Everything that Satoshi Nakamoto intended for bitcoin is still serving it's purposes till date. For the first time people now have full control of their money. They have freedom and not enslaved. Bitcoin is accessable to everyone, so your idea that it was designed to create wealth for the few is false.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Reatim on March 17, 2025, 01:54:38 PM
Question to the Crypto Community:

Have we been deceived about the true purpose of the crypto space?
For years, many have speculated about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto—the mysterious creator of Bitcoin. What if this person (or group) was never the benevolent innovator we were led to believe? What if, instead, Bitcoin was designed as a tool for global manipulation—an elaborate scheme to consolidate power, undermine democracy, and ultimately enslave people under a new financial order?
i can’t see why bitcoin would undermine democracy when it literally operates through miners all over the world deciding to mine and validate bitcoins if one miner doesn’t want to mine then he can just leave he is not being held im gun point or being forced by anyone

anything that they would want to implement in bitcoin needs the approval of majority of the miners
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Was Bitcoin an elaborate scheme from the very beginning—a calculated ploy to create wealth for the few while robbing the many of their freedom and democracy?
What do you think? Have we all been deceived?
satoshi would have needed to predict that the public and the government will eventually warm up to bitcoin which wasn’t the case for a long time but it was fine because bitcoin didn’t need approval from the state it just needed the people i think you are overthinking this


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: macson on March 17, 2025, 02:05:46 PM
That's the business of the crypto world. Satoshi never developed ICOs and NFTs to meme coins, he was never involved or related to that. so when people suffer losses when they are involved in those things, then that is their full responsibility, and there is no need to link it to bitcoin because it has nothing to do with it at all.

And I think you are reading too much into speculation. no need to be too exaggerated I think. Satoshi only developed bitcoin as an alternative to a decentralized payment system, allowing people to transact without a central authority or central bank. it is not a ploy to create wealth for the few or whatever you say.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Smartprofit on March 17, 2025, 02:29:26 PM
I believe that Satoshi Nakamoto was a true cypherpunk and a visionary. His goal was to give people another effective tool for achieving personal freedom and independence.

For me, Satoshi Nakamoto is a kind of Prometheus. The Titan Prometheus gave people divine fire, and Satoshi Nakamoto gave digital decentralized money.

The problem is not with Satoshi Nakamoto at all, but with people themselves, who show their worst qualities in life (greed, hypocrisy, arrogance, servility). With the help of Bitcoin, people had a chance to radically change the world, but instead they used it for meaningless speculation.

As for those in power, in my opinion, they simply missed the creation of Bitcoin. In 2009, they were busy eliminating the consequences of the global financial crisis. When the elites came to their senses, Bitcoin had already spread among people so much that it was too late to ban it. 

A decision was made to "tame" the first cryptocurrency with the help of derivatives, futures, options, ETF funds, legislative regulation, KYC and AML procedures.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on March 17, 2025, 02:42:31 PM
@OP:
As expected from most ignorant trolls spouting verbal diarrhea, so far 12 replies from folks correcting him and not a single one from the OP in defense of his erroneous view. Safe to assume that after leaving his odious pile of crap the OP will not bother to return to the thread to drop another load.

Ignore button now active.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Agbe on March 17, 2025, 02:54:07 PM
Everyone has their views in the crypto space. Bitcoin came to liberate the financial system from the corrupt people by giving access to everyone to acquire and the core reason was to buy and sell online. But the store of value made people to purchase it and hodle it for the future use when the price rise above the capital investment price. And bitcoin has never been a scam but people used it to scam others. And bitcoin is the number one legit crypto in the world as of now. So as for me we have not not been deceived but those who are running from one crypto to another getting into scam. If you are investing in one and not anyone that came your way, you won't be scammed. The world leaders are now using it to do the opposite.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: maydna on March 17, 2025, 03:27:37 PM
I do not feel I have been deceived by Bitcoin because I get the advantage from Bitcoin and other altcoins. Satoshi created Bitcoin and started to gain popularity while other people saw that as a way to make money from creating other projects. So we see from that moment that many projects have been released and say that they will be the best projects.

But after some time running, more projects were created by other developers and their teams but Bitcoin still remain at the top of the crypto. While the other project competes with each other, Bitcoin still leads the crypto and difficult to replace its position. We don't know what is the reason behind Bitcoin's creation but Bitcoin gave us the opportunity to have alternative currency and investment. However, Bitcoin is not going to replace all currencies in the world.

Choosing Bitcoin is personal decision and there is no forcing to involve in Bitcoin. So we can see many people are not yet involve in Bitcoin because they don't want to be part of Bitcoin itself. If you think Bitcoin deceive you, it is better you leave Bitcoin as it was.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Frankolala on March 17, 2025, 03:56:25 PM
Everybody loves what's good but some people will always abuse good things by taking advantage of it to scam people. Bitcoin was created for financial freedom, you can go and read the white paper. Government never liked bitcoin initially, but because they see that bitcoin is a store of value overtime, has made them reconsider bitcoin reserve. Bitcoin remains decentralized and no one has control over your bitcoin in your noncustodial wallet.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Hatchy on March 17, 2025, 04:44:10 PM
Was Bitcoin an elaborate scheme from the very beginning—a calculated ploy to create wealth for the few while robbing the many of their freedom and democracy?
What do you think? Have we all been deceived?

Ico, and other crypto projects like you mentioned were not created as decentralised. Actually they were made by groups of persons for their own personal benefits. comparing them with bitcoin to me makes no sense.
Though I do see where you are coming from and I can actually relate to it. The government are now flooding the crypto space, trying to convince everyone that they are supporters of crypto. But for me personally, I'd say that they are just trying to find a way to control the majority. Yes bitcoin can not be controlled by the government, but remember if they hold majority of the coins they can control it since they literally own them. Don't get me wrong here, but the government has no one's interest in mind but for their own selfish interests.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: cabron on March 17, 2025, 04:46:18 PM
I have heard of this story from Whitney Webb where Bitcoin is for us to get used to online transaction and that while we are doing it, we will think we are free but in the end we are lured to surveillance instead.

I remember her say there is nothing in this world that gets popular without the backing of someone from the top. Those celebrities are not going to become celebrities if there is no big personality that vouches for this celebrity. Someone from the top vouches Bitcoin.

Because we are used to getting online transactions and our money is already digital we are all KYCed and our digital footprints are everywhere that even if we buy a tomato sauce online the government knew its you.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Hyphen(-) on March 17, 2025, 04:48:24 PM
Was Bitcoin an elaborate scheme from the very beginning—a calculated ploy to create wealth for the few while robbing the many of their freedom and democracy?
What do you think? Have we all been deceived?

The moment you failed to know the difference between Bitcoin and altcoin, then I think you are been deceived just as you said.

All these you have mentioned above about ICO, Scams, NFTs, and so on are all related to altcoin and not Bitcoin, and Bitcoin is the pioneer of cryptocurrency which was created to give us financial freedom, while all altcoins are created to give Bitcoin some competition which will always fail because these altcoins are centralized and will always be controlled by its owners.

Governments after making several attempts to stop Bitcoin and failed, they decided to start distracting people like you with their altcoins they are using to gain attention in the sense that people will think that they are controlling the crypto market; but always remember that all these coin will pump it Bitcoin pump and once the price of Bitcoin is down, they will also dump; therefore, make sure you have good knowledge about Bitcoin before making conclusions.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Crypto Library on March 17, 2025, 05:00:05 PM
Is crypto being used as a weapon to usher in a global system of authoritarianism, racism, fascism, and communism—disguised as financial innovation?
Actually, you can say this about other altcoins, which are basically cryptocurrencies, but I don't think it would apply to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is under the crypto coin but its purpose and network is fully decentralized which is actually not possible for anyone to manipulate or control. Yes, it is true that sometimes bitcoin is manipulated but it can never be sustained for a long time. Now if we consider bitcoin only as a trading asset then maybe we may face losses while trading but it cannot actually erase its main purpose.
But if you truly believe in it as a virtual asset and adopt it for the long term, you will inevitably realize that bitcoin is truly decentralized and not under anyone's control. It will never be possible to understand this by trading short time if he is a beginner.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: AmoreJaz on March 17, 2025, 05:16:58 PM
Is crypto being used as a weapon to usher in a global system of authoritarianism, racism, fascism, and communism—disguised as financial innovation?
Actually, you can say this about other altcoins, which are basically cryptocurrencies, but I don't think it would apply to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is under the crypto coin but its purpose and network is fully decentralized which is actually not possible for anyone to manipulate or control. Yes, it is true that sometimes bitcoin is manipulated but it can never be sustained for a long time. Now if we consider bitcoin only as a trading asset then maybe we may face losses while trading but it cannot actually erase its main purpose.
But if you truly believe in it as a virtual asset and adopt it for the long term, you will inevitably realize that bitcoin is truly decentralized and not under anyone's control. It will never be possible to understand this by trading short time if he is a beginner.

The deception may be true to most alts as respective developers can manipulate what can happen in the market. But it is different with bitcoin. As it is decentralized, not even big holders can manipulate the market movement. Also, getting into this market is not compulsory. So why it can serve as deception if you are not obliged in the first place? The main purpose of creation of this digital currency is to have an alternative option when it comes to financial transactions. But we are here now, in the stage where its value is very significant, wherein, it is already penetrating the mainstream financial market.
In my opinion, deception is true to other alts like pumpndump coins, most meme tokens, and other short-lived coins. Because they were indeed created just for the pockets of these "developers". But when it comes to btc, is another story as the people who are using it, are the ones creating the stigma about btc. But btc alone is already serving its purpose in doing smooth and seamless financial transactions.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Zoomic on March 17, 2025, 05:18:01 PM
@OP, what does Bitcoin have to do with ICOs, NFTs, and memecoins? I have gone through your post carefully, and I can't seem to find a real reason why you think Bitcoin has lost its purpose or that we were deceived from the very beginning. I'm even beginning to feel that you might have been a victim of a crypto scam, which is why you're venting your anger on crypto, not just Bitcoin, as your post suggests. You're truly overthinking this.

To respond to your concerns, Bitcoin's purpose remains intact. Just a few days ago, I read here that Bolivia paid for fuel using crypto due to a shortage of fiat. You can check the thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5535126.msg65163583#msg65163583. People are still making money from investing in crypto. You can see that Bitcoin (and some altcoins) is not useless.

Scams exist everywhere, and they are even more prevalent in fiat. The reason many fall victim to scams is greed and carelessness, not because Satoshi deceived us.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Cryptohygenic on March 17, 2025, 06:40:31 PM
In recent years, we’ve witnessed an alarming rise of radical right-wing influence in crypto. Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency.


It is okay to have this deceptive manipulative insight on the alt coins because cryptocurrencies being involved on scamming in history and ones holding future threats to scam peoples funds are still the alt coins which developers has been posed before the public that it would be reliable as bitcoin but on the long term is the opposite side of the being values or fraudulent projects.
So we can always keep bitcoin out of this notation. If you are troubled about the unrevealed or Satoshi's identity then you need to understand the scheme to enjoy decentralizations in a global economy is to stay anonymous else the government will come for you.
Already we have seen how some governments treats it citizens that adopted bitcoin that are maltreated like they ventured into illegal invention even when you went to the market with your own money. Or has investing on convinceable financial system like the digital assets (bitcoin) been an illicit?



Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Mrbluntzy on March 17, 2025, 06:58:24 PM
Question to the Crypto Community:
What if, instead, Bitcoin was designed as a tool for global manipulation—an elaborate scheme to consolidate power, undermine democracy, and ultimately enslave people under a new financial order?
With the purpose that Bitcoin is serving so far, do you conclude by saying that Bitcoin is enslaving people under any financial jurisdiction? I don't think so, Bitcoin is freedom and everyone that adopts Bitcoin is using it any how they like, no body is controlling Bitcoin like the local currencies that we know, you are not paying anyone to store your Bitcoin in your wallet, you can send out your Bitcoin from your wallet any time you want and to anyone you want to but come to think of the local currencies, you pay to keep your money in the bank, even while your money is in the bank, you only see a reflection of figures in your balance but the bank must have put your money into and investment that will benefit them greatly or they must have loan the money to some big business for a large interest while you will not get a better rewards for it.

For those reason i mentioned, I would not regard Bitcoin as any of those things you have said because Bitcoin is better and gives freedom and not slavery.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: mindrust on March 17, 2025, 08:20:09 PM
That’s a very long “what if” themed post to read and I ain’t doing it. I did read it till the “what if” part and I can immediately guess what the rest of the post is about. The worst part is that you think you have an original thought.

We have discussed all that ages ago. What if btc was made by NSA? What if Elon is satoshi? What if CIA behind BTC? What if btc was made in Chiiinaaa? What if this, what if that,

So what?

I am not interested in any of those because bitcoin is all open source.

You can use it if it benefits you and you can choose to ignore it completely if it doesn’t benefit you. That’s all there is to it. The rest is just buzz.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Ucy on March 19, 2025, 02:16:57 PM
Well, Bitcoin was born during a financial crisis. So, it will be right to say it was created to help people survive the crisis. If this had happened before or after the crisis, the motive would be more questionable, but something else, a global financial crisis, which was unexpected, triggered its creation. It's like people building a ship to survive a  global flood that starts gradually. It wouldn't make much sense to later say that they built the ship for evil reasons since they were clearly trying to escape a disaster. .

And if you consider the nature of the Bitcoin system, you would probably realize that the intention wasn't really bad. Let's assume the intention was evil, then ask yourself: how could an evil system be built to be controlled by the community rather than an unknown individual or a small group of powerful people with thesame dark agenda? How could the transaction/data be made immutable and transparent? How about the censorship resistant feature? That is not the kind of thing people with dark agenda would build. I believe they would try to make the transactions hard to track and take control away from the community.


Concerning the so called far right using Bitcoin to undermine democracy. First of all, there isn't a true democracy in the first place. Democracy means the people are in control, just like on Bitcoin Network. Unfortunately, the system of the world is centralized around few elites or individuals who are very intolerant of opposition who are against their interests, agenda or beliefs. They pretend to be democrats yet are intolerant of speeches they find threatening. They are more likely to tolerate speeches that do not threaten them. But free speech or censorship resistant is part of the core principle Bitcoin which explains why "the far right groups" embraced it more. I remember how political, covid and other form of censorship, like the "canceling of people" were rampant back then. How could you call that democracy? The people and certain politicians who were censored and attacked had to use Bitcoin to survive and advance their cause, which explains why it seems like Bitcoin was used to undermine governments or nations. It helps protect people from abuse of power and tyrannical governments who pretend to be pro democracy while their actions are usually anti-democratic. I know of cases were the will of the majority of the people, for security or moral reasons, was to support military governments or strong leaders, which in itself is democratic, but the so called democrats irrationally or for selfish reasons tried to undermine this will.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: moneystery on March 19, 2025, 02:40:57 PM
Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency. This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question: Was this the plan all along?
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all of that has nothing to do with bitcoin. satoshi just developed bitcoin, and then let people use it in their transactions. but ICOs and NFTS to meme coins, those are different products, and satoshi never developed any of those. those are the result of the development of the crypto world and you should blame the parties who created and promoted those projects, not bitcoin itself. and i think you should be able to differentiate between bitcoin and crypto in general, because from what you said it's all about crypto and a lot of nonsense.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: doomloop on March 20, 2025, 11:11:10 AM
Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency. This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question: Was this the plan all along?
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all of that has nothing to do with bitcoin. satoshi just developed bitcoin, and then let people use it in their transactions. but ICOs and NFTS to meme coins, those are different products, and satoshi never developed any of those. those are the result of the development of the crypto world and you should blame the parties who created and promoted those projects, not bitcoin itself. and i think you should be able to differentiate between bitcoin and crypto in general, because from what you said it's all about crypto and a lot of nonsense.
Yes but I think they contribute somehow with Bitcoin, like when people first entered them, they'll then explore more and found out Bitcoin to be also a good coin, so they join it as well. ICO is only a means of selling a project but I'm not sure if BTC had an ICO before, though BTC has an NFT now, although yeah that it didn't came from Satoshi itself since that is only discovered last time. IDK if he already said this but if he only said about BTC being used as an asset instead of a currency, that is more valid. It is because we thought BTC is only just a currency but later on, things have changed and many people are now treating their BTC as an asset, instead of a currency.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: gunhell16 on March 20, 2025, 11:57:50 AM
Whatever your reason for asking that question about bitcoin, I don't know if you have had a bad experience with bitcoin or what? All I can tell you is that bitcoin will never be able
to deceive anyone who buys it.

Because when someone buys Bitcoin, it is clear that it is the decision of an individual who wants to have it as a holder. And he believes that there is something good about bitcoin. and besides this, only two types of investors can buy it, those with good intentions and those with bad intentions.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: john_egbert on March 20, 2025, 12:12:19 PM
Whatever your reason for asking that question about bitcoin, I don't know if you have had a bad experience with bitcoin or what? All I can tell you is that bitcoin will never be able
to deceive anyone who buys it.

Because when someone buys Bitcoin, it is clear that it is the decision of an individual who wants to have it as a holder. And he believes that there is something good about bitcoin. and besides this, only two types of investors can buy it, those with good intentions and those with bad intentions.

What is a bad intention, in your opinion? Just curious about it.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Slimzeee on March 20, 2025, 01:00:51 PM
To me bitcoin is not related to scams, rather it is an asset that when properly manage cannot be stollen.
The energy should have been channeled to alt coins and mostly meme coins because the process to create these are very easy, Taking a deep look at scams, It is observed that in every scenarios you will understand that greed has the major role to play so I don’t think it all boils down to doing your personal research and watching out to quick-get-rich schemes or links try gain asses to your wallet address.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: BenCodie on March 20, 2025, 01:59:17 PM
Ultimately it is up to the people to be wise enough to evade scams. The fiat system has always been a joke and ultimately, anyone who has held Bitcoin for a term of more than 4 years has achieved a positive outcome. It did not start at $100,000 in 2009 and gradually make its way to $0.001. It started below $0.001 and recently broke over $100,000. This is no deception, this is truth. The greed of people who played altcoins, disposed of Bitcoin lower than where they bought it, and drove themselves into debt, is no one elses fault but their own. Should people have been better educated and could scams have been prevented? Yes...but just like gambling is a hot topic on this forum, sometimes right does not always prevail.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Alpha Marine on March 20, 2025, 03:04:40 PM
In the world we live in, everything can be exploited. Bitcoin couldn't be exploited, but the industry it's in (the crypto industry). Every day, at least 2 coins or tokens get launched, which are most likely scams and would be rugged pulled asap. You can't attribute this to bitcoin. Its crystal clear that bitcoin is way different from all these other coins/tokens.
Since bitcoin belonged to nobody and could not be exploited, they decided to create coins of their own. Governments of the country tried to control bitcoin but they could not so they opted for a CBDC and when they saw it would be a failure, they opted for reserves which they're still figuring out.

Look at the oil industry, the real estate industry, tech, entertainment, etc, they're all brutal in their own way. Its nothing new that a particular industry is this way.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Marykeller on March 20, 2025, 03:07:01 PM
Your views about Bitcoin are far different from what others are visualizing Bitcoin to be. Anyway, I just want to inform you that there was no good thing that was created by humans that you won't find bad players in it, that their plans are to scam people. Making what was created appear bad to humanity.

Bitcoin was created by Satoshi to give humans the power to control their finances. Some bad players came into the field wanting to destroy the narrative of what Satoshi had built over the years.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: pawanjain on March 20, 2025, 03:14:51 PM
What do you think? Have we all been deceived?


I am impressed with your writing style. It kinda sounded like a movie while reading you post. To be honest, I think it's all about the belief we have on bitcoin.
While we cannot accurately predict whether bitcoin was created deliberately to manipulate the market or it's truly a revolutionary tech but what we support is what we portray it to the people.
Casually speaking, it's a fun ride to have and support it while you can to enjoy the profits you are making, again, while you can.
I personally believe in bitcoin (at least for now and I guess until it proves its worthy to keep HODLing) and hence I try to accumulate as much as possible.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Josefjix on March 20, 2025, 03:19:32 PM
Robert Kiyosaki once said in Rich Dad Poor Dad "Don't invest in what you don't know, learn first then invest"
Ignorant investors falls victim while rushing into the ecosystem because they fail to learn and comes up with allegations that Bitcoin is a scam scheme, tagging Bitcoin as a negative entity. Sick

The Bitcoin system is purposeful because all the promises is fulfilled, cross border means of transactions is completed, store of values is assured, decentralization is done. Nothing much nothing else negative to mention.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: zeuner on March 20, 2025, 05:00:20 PM
The purpose, if there has been any, is almost irrelevant because what can be done or not depends only on the protocol and on what is considered to be a good policy by those who operate mining hardware.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Bitcoin Smith on March 20, 2025, 05:12:28 PM
If Bitcoin created with the intentions of controlling or exploiting then why it has to be decentralised and not can be controlled by anyone even the creator itself?

We may have different theories when we look from different perspectives but I can strongly say Bitcoin is something that's created after someone is just fed-up with the centralized money that's just printed out of thin air and made the people to believe it has actual value.

However the elites has the power to Bitcoin for buying even now it may increase their influence but never gives them any control over the network that's the fact.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: suzanne5223 on March 20, 2025, 09:56:03 PM
We are not deceived by the true purpose of Bitcoin creation based on Bitcoin consensus, decentralization, and its 4-year cycle. Besides, we are being deceived about Bitcoin's purpose we would have known ever since the world's total lockdown season, and if someone like Robert Kiyosaki who is known for his outstanding knowledge about finance and great opportunity could say Bitcoin is the perfect alternative to fiat currency.
Aside from that, I don't think it is fair for anyone to have the impression that Bitcoin is designed as a tool for global manipulation.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Luzin on March 20, 2025, 10:15:53 PM
However the elites has the power to Bitcoin for buying even now it may increase their influence but never gives them any control over the network that's the fact.

That's one of the proofs that they have tried to provide a good revolution with a decentralized system. But I am convinced that the revolution dreamed of by the creators of bitcoin is good, but nothing is perfect created by humans. Remember Satoshi's goal, the idea of a revolutionary peer-to-peer electronic payment system. Perhaps this revolution has not succeeded, because it is now more developed into an asset because of a system that is contrary to the government.
I am not able to give a prediction of the future, but logically developments and the government are starting to recognize as a commodity even state reserve assets it makes Bitcoin even more unpredictable. This condition clearly looks positive even though there are negative parts.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: aoluain on March 21, 2025, 12:04:51 AM
Question to the Crypto Community:

In recent years, we’ve witnessed an alarming rise of radical right-wing influence in crypto. Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency. This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question: Was this the plan all along?



Why do you correlate all the "Crypto" not Bitcoin scams with right wing
political thinking?

Why are you weaving over and back between Bitcoin and $hitcoin scams? they
are two different spaces.

Question to the Crypto Community:

Was Satoshi Nakamoto not a visionary, but a hidden world leader—one whose influence we now see on a global scale, yet whose identity remains deliberately concealed?
Was Bitcoin an elaborate scheme from the very beginning—a calculated ploy to create wealth for the few while robbing the many of their freedom and democracy?
What do you think? Have we all been deceived?


Why would anyone create a decentralised, global, open source, borderless
and self custodial financial system which disrupts traditional banking to create
wealth for the few when it is clearly accessible to "everyone" and "anyone" who
wants to be have it?

Thread title should read:

Re: We have Been Deceived on The Purpose of $hitcoins?


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Rustam Meraj on March 21, 2025, 12:13:22 AM
In the world we live in, everything can be exploited. Bitcoin couldn't be exploited, but the industry it's in (the crypto industry). Every day, at least 2 coins or tokens get launched, which are most likely scams and would be rugged pulled asap. You can't attribute this to bitcoin. Its crystal clear that bitcoin is way different from all these other coins/tokens.
Since bitcoin belonged to nobody and could not be exploited, they decided to create coins of their own. Governments of the country tried to control bitcoin but they could not so they opted for a CBDC and when they saw it would be a failure, they opted for reserves which they're still figuring out.

Look at the oil industry, the real estate industry, tech, entertainment, etc, they're all brutal in their own way. Its nothing new that a particular industry is this way.
You are right that cryptocurrency industry is open to exploitation but that is not Bitcoin fault. Many new coins and tokens are being created and a lot of them are probably scams like Terra Luna. It is not fair to blame Bitcoin which is different from these other digital currencies. Governments have tried to control Bitcoin but could not so they are making their own digital currencies instead. This kind of thing happens in many industries like oil and real estate and tech where powerful people try to take control or make their own alternatives. Every industry has its own problems and tough competition and cryptocurrency is no different.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Becassine on March 21, 2025, 12:45:22 AM
I read a theory (sorry, I've forgotten the author) that said that elites had created Bitcoin to divert savers' money, so that they wouldn't invest in real estate (real estate that has already become unaffordable in many, many countries) and to ultimately destroy Bitcoin's value to ruin everyone. Everyone would be left with neither Bitcoin, nor real estate, nor anything at all.

Pretty scary theory  :o

WEF: "You will have nothing and you'll be happy".


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Darker45 on March 21, 2025, 03:05:18 AM
Well, we're indeed deceived by crypto in one way or another. That's correct. Those NFTs, Meme coins, ICOs, airdrops, and others are all founded upon deception. But they're done not by governments and global powers. They're done by developers and influential personalities. But the purpose isn't about rearranging the world order or whatever grand plans; it was simply to make easy money out of gullible and lazy individuals. The good thing, however, is that we aren't forced into it.

As to Bitcoin, how can Satoshi be a manipulator when he/she/they can't even control Bitcoin? How can Satoshi enslave the people using a tool which is beyond his/her/their control?

That Bitcoin is decentralized is enough proof that this theory is far from possible.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: davis196 on March 21, 2025, 07:04:28 AM
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Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency. This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question: Was this the plan all along?

What is the connection between Bitcoin and ICOs/NFTs/memecoins? I know that Bitcoin and all shitcoins/shit-tokens are considered "crypto", but I can't find any real connection. Blaming Bitcoin/Satoshi Nakamoto for all the ICO/NFT/shitcoin/memecoin scams is like blaming a random guy in Asia for a tornado, which happened in Texas. There's no connection whatsoever.
Satoshi Nakamoto left the crypto world because he was disappointed. Maybe he got disappointed because Bitcoin turned into a speculation asset. I don't want to get into conspiracy theories here. Governments and banks are becoming crypto-friendly. Can we stop this? I don't think so. If you are disappointed by Bitcoin/crypto just leave the crypto world and don't use cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Bitcoin Smith on March 21, 2025, 03:05:35 PM
Remember Satoshi's goal, the idea of a revolutionary peer-to-peer electronic payment system. Perhaps this revolution has not succeeded, because it is now more developed into an asset because of a system that is contrary to the government.

It is true that bitcoin is not used for mode of payment but as investment but it is what the decentralization and freedom is all about, we get to choose what we want to do with our money with fiat it's what government wants even though we worked and earned it. Also we lack the infrastructure to use bitcoin as currency which may take a while for the transition to happen until that accumulation is the best way to ensure better future not just in terms of returns but also to power shift from centralized banks to the individuals.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: el kaka22 on March 21, 2025, 04:21:02 PM
None of that is true, and no bitcoin is not used that way, but the question is still a valid one and the answer is still yes. While bitcoin is not used for any of that, it is used for investment purposes and making money and used as an asset.

This wasn't the purpose of it when it was started or at least that wasn't what we were told. It is called crypto "currency" for a reason, it was created so that we could use bitcoin as a currency between each other, I buy food from you and pay you with bitcoin, and you buy a service from me and pay me with bitcoin, just like what a dollar is used for. But nowadays it isn't used that way, it is used to just buy and hold and wait until it makes you rich because it is a valuable asset.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on March 29, 2025, 02:20:30 PM
Whatever your reason for asking that question about bitcoin, I don't know if you have had a bad experience with bitcoin or what? All I can tell you is that bitcoin will never be able
to deceive anyone who buys it.

Because when someone buys Bitcoin, it is clear that it is the decision of an individual who wants to have it as a holder. And he believes that there is something good about bitcoin. and besides this, only two types of investors can buy it, those with good intentions and those with bad intentions.

Actually, because some questions can be quite answerable using procedures like DYOR.Using El Salvador as a case study,I think that's enough reason of recommendation and encouragement that Bitcoin is what it says it is.
Why not save yourself the dubious doubts and make an attempt whereas the nature and value of Bitcoin is derived greatly from individuals perception of beliefs and evaluation.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Antotena on March 29, 2025, 04:05:51 PM
It is true that bitcoin is not used for mode of payment but as investment but it is what the decentralization and freedom is all about, we get to choose what we want to do with our money with fiat it's what government wants even though we worked and earned it. Also we lack the infrastructure to use bitcoin as currency which may take a while for the transition to happen until that accumulation is the best way to ensure better future not just in terms of returns but also to power shift from centralized banks to the individuals.

Bitcoin was created solely as a payment as pair to pair but you know one thing is to create something and another is for people to use it for different purpose. The demand and the supply create value in Bitcoin and since many people see true value in the price of Bitcoin, they tend to use their fiat money to buy Bitcoin instead of holding fiat that lose value with time. Over time, Bitcoin has proven to be store of value than pair to pair transaction payments.

Almost everyone you see today use Bitcoin is solely because of that store of value, even the institutional investors are here for the store if value. If really they are after payment method then I think Bitcoin is very poor when it comes to transact payment, things like Visa has that speed to process the speed of transaction but the down side of them is because they are centralized while Bitcoin is decentralized, nobody can disrupt your payment from reaching the other side.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Dailyscript on March 29, 2025, 04:41:10 PM
OP, there a lot of ways we see bitcoin prove its purpose individually. It shouldn't be on a one man point of view if not we may all say it doesn't serve its purpose. Bitcoin is serving several purpose on how we use it individually. Those who use bitcoin for business or investment it is simply serving the purpose of making transaction safe and fast. For those using it for making payments online it simply serve as a payment gateway. So you see it depends on how we use it that is how we know which purpose it serves to us.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Ale88 on March 29, 2025, 05:26:18 PM
Could it be that Bitcoin was never meant to liberate the people, but instead to serve as the ultimate tool for economic enslavement? Was Satoshi Nakamoto not a visionary, but a hidden world leader—one whose influence we now see on a global scale, yet whose identity remains deliberately concealed?
Was Bitcoin an elaborate scheme from the very beginning—a calculated ploy to create wealth for the few while robbing the many of their freedom and democracy?
What do you think? Have we all been deceived?
At the very beginning almost nobody knew what bitcoin was, only very few people understood it and believed in its future, and those people were mainly very normal people, for sure there were no rich people nor politicians backing up bitcoin so I don't really understand who are these "few people" who are now manipulating the world using bitcoin...


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Die_empty on March 29, 2025, 05:55:58 PM
In recent years, we’ve witnessed an alarming rise of radical right-wing influence in crypto. Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency.
You should learn how to separate Bitcoin from shitcoins. Bitcoin is still highly decentralized. If you choose to buy shitcoins, that's your business be prepared to face the risks.

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This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question: Was this the plan all along?
Governments and powerful institutions have increasingly entered the crypto space, not to empower people, but to guide them toward predatory schemes. Crypto, once seen as a path to financial freedom, is now being weaponized to deepen economic enslavement—driving people into debt and ensuring they remain prisoners of a collapsing system.
Bitcoin is not a magic wand that will financially empower people. It is first a decentralized currency designed to promote privacy and freedom before it would be viewed as an asset. Bitcoin still promotes financial freedom.

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Adding to the suspicion, we now know that governments hold Bitcoin reserves—not as a tool for public benefit, but as a mechanism to hoard wealth for the elite while depriving ordinary citizens of financial power.
Nobody is forcing you to sell your Bitcoin so you can be part of the people who will gain financial power with Bitcoin. People are free to use Bitcoin the way they want thus you cannot stop all these major actors from buying and hodling Bitcoin.

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Could it be that Bitcoin was never meant to liberate the people, but instead to serve as the ultimate tool for economic enslavement? Was Satoshi Nakamoto not a visionary, but a hidden world leader—one whose influence we now see on a global scale, yet whose identity remains deliberately concealed?
Was Bitcoin an elaborate scheme from the very beginning—a calculated ploy to create wealth for the few while robbing the many of their freedom and democracy?
What do you think? Have we all been deceived?
Bitcoin was created to be an alternative to fiat, and it's doing that perfectly. Satoshi created an extraordinary invention and you don't expect him to place restrictions on a currency that was designed to promote freedom..


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: WeedGoW on March 29, 2025, 06:22:19 PM
Crypto currency, especially Bitcoin’s purpose and its future, hold different opinions. Hit Pine’s journey began when many believed about Bitcoin and the crushed currency that it was going to be a revolutionary technology that would oppose the central power and bring financial freedom to the people Satoshi Nakamat identity was mystery. And many people knew it as a hero of modern gene. There are thousands of fraudsters in the currency who are always fooling people by fooling them. We also need to be careful so that we don’t fall into the trap of cheating. Cheating is constantly trying new things to cheat. ICO, NFT, Mem Coin etc. in many cases are absolutely written in paper projects and projects, which are hunting investors’ cheating.
We need to avoid such projects.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: yhiaali3 on March 29, 2025, 06:28:16 PM
We certainly haven't been deceived. Perhaps it's just you and some conspiracy theorists. Despite all of this, Bitcoin will remain one of the greatest inventions of our time, and even of history, in my opinion, because it changed the world's view of currency in general.

Bitcoin cannot be a ploy, even if someone uses it to deceive us. Even if governments try to control Bitcoin, this doesn't mean it's a scam. On the contrary, as I see it, governments hate Bitcoin and are trying to control it, but have failed so far.

Conversely, perhaps these counter-narratives you wrote (most of which have nothing to do with Bitcoin) are evidence of Bitcoin's success. Most of these things, such as ICOs, NFTs, and memes, are parasitic and have nothing to do with Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Koadharber on March 29, 2025, 06:58:15 PM
We certainly haven't been deceived. Perhaps it's just you and some conspiracy theorists. Despite all of this, Bitcoin will remain one of the greatest inventions of our time, and even of history, in my opinion, because it changed the world's view of currency in general.

Bitcoin cannot be a ploy, even if someone uses it to deceive us. Even if governments try to control Bitcoin, this doesn't mean it's a scam. On the contrary, as I see it, governments hate Bitcoin and are trying to control it, but have failed so far.

Conversely, perhaps these counter-narratives you wrote (most of which have nothing to do with Bitcoin) are evidence of Bitcoin's success. Most of these things, such as ICOs, NFTs, and memes, are parasitic and have nothing to do with Bitcoin.
Only people who dont have that much knowledge about crypto or Bitcoin itself will really be having these kind of negativity towards it but if you are someone who do realistically be able to learn up things then you would really be able to say the different thing or having that different approach when it comes to this. When we do speak about purpose then we can be able to tell out immediate on just simply reading up its WP.

Its not really that complicated to understand, it is really just that people do focus up that much about into the things that they do read up online on which it will really be just that so normal that you would really be that trying out to believe into things on which arent supposed to believed and its better that you should really be that focusing on what are the things that you should gonna focus on. There are really just that those moments that your beliefs might be that affected because you've been that get convinced on what are the things is all about.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: AmaGold70 on March 29, 2025, 07:40:53 PM
Even in the forum we are all anonymous because of the great influence on Bitcoin, so would you blame Satoshi for hiding his identify? Hiding his identify is for his safety as we all do the same here in the forum. Bitcoin is on its own space and has nothing to do with altcoins, Bitcoin is not a scam controlled by anyone or the government as you projected, the parasites you mentioned in the likes of ICOs, NFTs and the rest of them were never created by Satoshi and there's no evidence that it has anything to do with Bitcoin. @op kindly separate Bitcoin from these shitcoins and focus only on Bitcoin and see the difference.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Sanitough on March 29, 2025, 11:45:47 PM
I'm not really sure if we can still have this mindset after all this years about Satoshi and his creation. I mean everything is on his White paper and we can read his posts in this community and what his goal and what he wanted to let his creation be.

So stop overthinking about Bitcoin, although it has evolved a lot as his plans is for it to be a payment scheme, nevertheless is it now an asset that people are making money. But I doubt what the OP speculate on what's the real purpose of Bitcoin of who Satoshi is.
There is no deceiving with bitcoin, but only those fools who continue to believe that bitcoin is created by this or by that reason. Gone are the days where we can be manipulated by these negative criticisms. Right now, we often see that bitcoin is made for good, and those who manage their risk with bitcoin, they’re the ones who succeeded and made a difference in their lives.

What’s more important is how we perceive and utilize bitcoin now, those negative views and old criticisms cannot change that.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Cryptohygenic on March 31, 2025, 04:39:27 PM
In recent years, we’ve witnessed an alarming rise of radical right-wing influence in crypto. Today, the space is overrun with scams—99% of projects are fraudulent, from ICOs and NFTs to meme coins—designed not for decentralization, but as a means to extract more fiat currency. This contradicts the original vision of Bitcoin and raises the question


Nothing has contradicted the vision of bitcoin so far and it you think the Cryptocurrency has outcome some legal doubts of trust worth, then you must understand there is a different between bitcoin and the alt coins which are terminals of the Crypto currencies exempting bitcoin.
Bitcoin has existed since the year on vision and in gradual process of adoption, it is potential visions of being a lucrative values is being actualized while lot of the alt coins perambulating in imitating bitcoin are sorts of scheme to what doubts you may be thinking about bitcoin.
This is why those alt coins goes dust and death in a period of time.
Bitcoin has really been reputable, architect of digital currencies as crypto that has successfully hold good earns for the community.


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: uneng on March 31, 2025, 05:15:17 PM
Bitcoin is a neutral tool, like any other currency, which can be used for purposes of different natures. It has come as an alternative for those who were struggling inside their socities, due to lack of privacy or due to not having access to means of transacting, investing widely for an affordable price.

And notice those issues were present on democratic systems of government, so it's not likely it was a stable world before those right wing idols have come to the global scene.

Anyway, the threats you mentioned are indeed real. But it's not that we were deceived by Bitcoin, as the rules of the game have always been there and never changed. The point is that those people are manipulative and opportunist. They try to take advantage of everything, so why wouldn't they do the same with something innovative and unique like Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Huppercase on March 31, 2025, 07:09:27 PM
It is true that bitcoin is not used for mode of payment but as investment but it is what the decentralization and freedom is all about, we get to choose what we want to do with our money with fiat it's what government wants even though we worked and earned it. Also we lack the infrastructure to use bitcoin as currency which may take a while for the transition to happen until that accumulation is the best way to ensure better future not just in terms of returns but also to power shift from centralized banks to the individuals.

Bitcoin is used as a mode of payment but the investment aspect supercedes the payment aspect that's why each time Bitcoin is been discussed, the investment aspect take about 98% of discussion while 2% goes to the payment aspect or it's not spoke about, they just talk about the institutional investors and how bullish they are with Bitcoin and there is nothing absolutely bad about it. If not for the value, I don't Bitcoin will be talk about like they do now.

If Satoshi that crested Bitcoin is around and watches everything that goes around Bitcoin, even if his mission isn't what he thinks happen today, I'm very sure he is going to allow Bitcoin be what it's today, that was the purpose of decentralization, you make people decide what they want to do with their Bitcoin and without this purpose I'm not sure person like Donald Trump will be able to.win his election ;D it's because they of the store of value he said he will be given us Bitcoin reserve perhaps in the future.  :D


Title: Re: Have We Been Deceived on The Purpose of Bitcoin?
Post by: Redley555 on May 04, 2025, 08:03:38 AM
I don't think so, a lot of people tend to deceive themselves thinking Bitcoin is like other altcoins everything depends on individual perspective. Bitcoin has lived the hype everything depends on your tolerance level for the umpteenth time Bitcoin is not a Ponzi scheme