Title: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: Awaklara on March 18, 2025, 06:12:52 PM The scheme used by cheaters in the Utopia review campaign with triangular transactions. Addresses receiving payments from the campaign manager send their Bitcoins first to other addresses before collecting them into one address.
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But you make the rules. THE RULES & REGULATIONS Do not enroll your own alt-accounts in this campaign. I have the right to remove you from the campaign without payment and leave you negative trust if you are caught enrolling your alt-accounts. If you care about your campaign, maybe you should limit the criteria of Newbie accounts that apply. Even newly created accounts you accept, it's like you intentionally attract cheaters to participate in making your campaign successful. Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: dkbit98 on March 18, 2025, 08:16:20 PM If you care about your campaign, maybe you should limit the criteria of Newbie accounts that apply. Even newly created accounts you accept, it's like you intentionally attract cheaters to participate in making your campaign successful. This would not stop cheaters doing the same cheating like usual, they only need to upgrade to jr.member rank or get those accounts in some other way.If they are willing to do this kind of cheating for extra $5 than they can do much worse :P I would not accept any inactive members, and I would take a look at forum history of all participants. Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: Ojima-ojo on March 18, 2025, 10:05:06 PM This is the lowest Chester's can go in my opinion because $5 is a kind of too low to get the attention pf any reputable forum members and only newbies and Jr. Members will take such offers seriously amd if you notice a trend in the suspected accounts you will see that their are alts and most are low ranks.
Hope we get more evidence that we can nail the down, I have always viewed those low paying reviews campaign ranging around $5 to be a spam fist ground for alts farmers and bounty cheaters. Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: Amphenomenon on March 18, 2025, 10:41:41 PM If you care about your campaign, maybe you should limit the criteria of Newbie accounts that apply. Even newly created accounts you accept, it's like you intentionally attract cheaters to participate in making your campaign successful. This would not stop cheaters doing the same cheating like usual, they only need to upgrade to jr.member rank or get those accounts in some other way.If they are willing to do this kind of cheating for extra $5 than they can do much worse :P I would not accept any inactive members, and I would take a look at forum history of all participants. Also I don't disregard the fact that the pay is also an influence on this. This is the lowest Chester's can go in my opinion because $5 is a kind of too low to get the attention pf any reputable forum members and only newbies and Jr. Members will take such offers seriously amd if you notice a trend in the suspected accounts you will see that their are alts and most are low ranks. The fact is in this review reputable members here won't really matter simply because the review ought to be posted on playstore and so viewers might not even be aware or recognize those who are really reputable at Bitcointalk there, this makes them focusing on rep members not their top priority rather the more, the merrier.Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on March 18, 2025, 10:48:56 PM This would not stop cheaters doing the same cheating like usual, they only need to upgrade to jr.member rank or get those accounts in some other way. Or we would suddenly start seeing some high ranking accounts waking up just to apply. Those cheats are just something else ;DIf they are willing to do this kind of cheating for extra $5 than they can do much worse :P Bounties that have always accepted, all ranks are not profitable anymore, so those newbie accounts are close to useless unless if the person behind can get about 20 of them into a review campaign. That's 20x$5 ($100). Not worth the effort but at least some beer money. ;DThis is the lowest Chester's can go in my opinion because $5 is a kind of too low to get the attention pf any reputable forum members and only newbies and Jr. Members will take such offers seriously amd if you notice a trend in the suspected accounts you will see that their are alts and most are low ranks. The CM decided to go for Quantity or quality, so I guess it's up to them since it's their money.Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: joeperry on March 19, 2025, 01:46:35 AM Hi @Awaklara, thanks for bringing this to my attention, and I appreciate the effort you’ve put into exposing these cheaters. I'll make sure to remove, reject, or not reward users who have been negatively tagged. Instead of outright rejecting new accounts, the least I can do for now—while discussing with the Utopia team—is to add an extra challenge by requiring at least 6-8 posts spread throughout the past week before they can apply or be accepted. This will take effect next week. This way, cheaters will likely lose interest in exploiting the campaign, and if they still attempt it, the effort required wouldn’t be worth just $5-$7.
Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: Free Market Capitalist on March 19, 2025, 03:17:43 AM Addresses receiving payments from the campaign manager send their Bitcoins first to other addresses before collecting them into one address. While I think that the most normal thing is that they are cheaters, and I see that all those who have commented think so, could that addres not be a consolidation address of a CEX or a casino, for example? Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: Pandu Geddon on March 19, 2025, 03:23:12 AM If you care about your campaign, maybe you should limit the criteria of Newbie accounts that apply. Even newly created accounts you accept, it's like you intentionally attract cheaters to participate in making your campaign successful. Some bounty managers seem to also apply restrictions at least for the amount of activity from Newbie accounts. It might help a little to reduce woke up accounts and new accounts to apply. But it will not be effective enough to reduce the greed of cheaters. They will only need more effort to adjust their accounts to be able to apply for campaigns.is to add an extra challenge by requiring at least 6-8 posts spread throughout the past week before they can apply or be accepted. This will take effect next week. This way, cheaters will likely lose interest in exploiting the campaign, and if they still attempt it, the effort required wouldn’t be worth just $5-$7. Hope you succeed in your way. But as I said, it will just take a little more effort on their part. Some of the accounts mentioned above seem to be only for your review campaign. Now those cheaters will just create new accounts and spam POA in the bounty thread and they will be eligible to apply for your review campaign with their new addresses.Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: nutildah on March 19, 2025, 03:50:45 AM While I think that the most normal thing is that they are cheaters, and I see that all those who have commented think so, could that addres not be a consolidation address of a CEX or a casino, for example? Unlikely, as every address that sent funds to 3LWqmX76zVN1x43vzk6UWeZiNGbfuezfPv received funds from an address belonging to a review campaign participant. This is the exchange address: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/addresses/BTC/3LWqmX76zVN1x43vzk6UWeZiNGbfuezfPv Its part of a wallet (https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00000138a566dc84/addresses) with several bitcoin and over 345,000 addresses in it. Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 19, 2025, 01:27:18 PM All cheating accounts were created practically on the same day. For me, this is not only the manager's short-sightedness but also the cheater's stupidity. It is difficult to imagine that the manager would not bother to check where such an influx of new accounts with the same registration date came from. Unless you consider that it is profitable for him. Whoever owns these accounts will eventually earn glaucoma, since managing dozens of accounts is too labor-intensive, but at the same time quite cheap.
Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: xLays on March 19, 2025, 01:57:06 PM It is difficult to imagine that the manager would not bother to check where such an influx of new accounts with the same registration date came from. Unless you consider that it is profitable for him. Yes, for me this seems profitable for them. In a way, it’s similar to purchasing fake reviews. These accounts aren’t concerned about being flagged since they’re just newly created and they can simply make another account anytime. We all know that lol. If they truly wanted genuine reviews for their product, they wouldn’t accept accounts like these and would at least limit participation to Member Rank. I’m sure they’re already aware this would happen, but they likely accepted it anyway due to the limited number of applicants. Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: Awaklara on March 19, 2025, 02:41:17 PM All cheating accounts were created practically on the same day. For me, this is not only the manager's short-sightedness but also the cheater's stupidity. It is difficult to imagine that the manager would not bother to check where such an influx of new accounts with the same registration date came from. Unless you consider that it is profitable for him. Whoever owns these accounts will eventually earn glaucoma, since managing dozens of accounts is too labor-intensive, but at the same time quite cheap. I think the Utopia review campaign is losing its appeal, maybe because of the small payment factor or maybe something else. If you look at the beginning of the campaign opening, it will definitely involve several accounts that have quite high activity and rank. But after some time it seems that only Newbie accounts will apply. The situation is also seen in their first review campaign, when the payment was using USDT. I am sure at that time must have been exploited by cheaters.Yes, for me this seems profitable for them. In a way, it’s similar to purchasing fake reviews. These accounts aren’t concerned about being flagged since they’re just newly created and they can simply make another account anytime. We all know that lol. If they truly wanted genuine reviews for their product, they wouldn’t accept accounts like these and would at least limit participation to Member Rank. I’m sure they’re already aware this would happen, but they likely accepted it anyway due to the limited number of applicants. Because the review campaign for Android App, of course the reviews are given to increase the rating on their App. But what I wonder, the campaign is run for several rounds, some accounts apply 2-3 times. Meaning, they provide reviews with different login account details for each review. Whether it is intentional or indeed a direction from the manager. If it is intentional, isn't it just an attempt to manipulate? Forget it, who cares about that.Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: Pablo-wood on March 19, 2025, 11:21:39 PM Because the review campaign for Android App, of course the reviews are given to increase the rating on their App. But what I wonder, the campaign is run for several rounds, some accounts apply 2-3 times. Meaning, they provide reviews with different login account details for each review. Whether it is intentional or indeed a direction from the manager. If it is intentional, isn't it just an attempt to manipulate? Forget it, who cares about that. The provided reviews with different emails was intentional to give participants a chance for a second round.Quote
Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: KingsDen on March 19, 2025, 11:52:42 PM Seeing review campaigns with amount as low as $5 is irritating, but it seems it's becoming a trend that Betkin manager cited utopia as a yardstick for launching $5 review campaign. Honestly, $5 is nothing, even if it is doubled. But when cheaters found a way to participate upto 15 times, it's now 5 x 15 = 75. Anyone irrespective of your country will agree with me that $75 is a decent amount to earn by doing a generic and repeated task.
Title: Re: Cheater Scheme in Utopia Android Review Campaign Post by: Awaklara on March 20, 2025, 04:15:05 PM The provided reviews with different emails was intentional to give participants a chance for a second round. I missed the point, however more positive reviews is what Utopia developers want. They pay participants for it, they wouldn't care much about abuse in their review campaign.Quote
I just wanted to let the manager know about this, I guess he will make some adjustments. Seeing review campaigns with amount as low as $5 is irritating, but it seems it's becoming a trend that Betkin manager cited utopia as a yardstick for launching $5 review campaign. Honestly, $5 is nothing, even if it is doubled. But when cheaters found a way to participate upto 15 times, it's now 5 x 15 = 75. Anyone irrespective of your country will agree with me that $75 is a decent amount to earn by doing a generic and repeated task. I don't know how Betkin manager made Utopia review campaign as a yardstick for their payment. but both will be different. Utopia with Android app review while Betkin is related to casino sites.I just hope Betkin review campaign situation will not be like Utopia. I will try to see it later. Thread will be locked, if there is an update I will open it. |