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Bitcointalk is an innovative platform that gives space for everyone to learn and also teach others what they know, no one is an island of knowledge, we are all learning from each other. Room should be given for people who are coming up to grow instead of being discouraged. It took a lot of effort and hardwork for the senior members and every other high ranking member of the forum to get to where they are. An opportunity was given for it to happen, that same chance should be extended to those that are coming up now. I'm totally In support of moving posts that are digressing from the discussion of a particular board if it was posted there, posts like that should be moved to off topic, it shows that an eye is kept on everything being posted and the writers would be more careful next time but In a case whereby it synchronizes with what is being discussed in that board why would it be removed? I guess it's not based on the level or amount of merit the user has.

Teach others only if you are knowledgeable and have insights to teach and help them. Don't try to teach anyone when you are a newbie and have very limited knowledge or even misunderstanding about things you are teaching others.

If you try to do this, your posts are very likely useless and deserves to be deleted by moderators.

theymos wrote Forum welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0) which is helpful for you and other newbies.

I only talk about things that I'm knowledgeable about so I make sure I don't say anything inaccurate, in aspects that I'm not well versed I read, take notes and make research.
And I haven't had an issue with a deleted post, it was just moved

This forum have lasted for over 15 years now and for some reason if you think you just arrived and have enough knowledge to teach others then if should have enough new updates or pints when the members for the have not heard or it's probably not discussed in the forum yet that's when your post will be more relevant and likely not get deleted.

But where y you are likely repeating same old things that we already know or are just garbages if real information and taking only pints that are probably useless to people then it will be disregard even though it synchronizes with the discussions of that board.

If it's gets removed too then it has extremely low quality points to be left on the board.

Are you emphasizing on posts as in threads because  that's the only one that can be moved to an off topic , but if it's a post within a thread that's obviously misleading somehow  or not flowing along with the context of the thread then it will be deleted to avoid other from being misled by such most, sometimes it could be a gibberish ,  an off sentence  within  a post itself if not indicated by the poster MIGHT also be deleted.

Then I think you should drop the link to the post let's see for ourselves if the moderators were right to move it because most times when people complain about a moved post, the moderator ends up being right about moving the post.
I have seen a post or two that shouldn't have been moved, but most of the time, it was the right thing to do.

That's impossible to say without seeing the post in question, and sometimes not even after seeing it. 

By the way, where exactlty was post in question moved?


No.

 Probably your threads where about things that have been discussed severally. I've not seen where a topic is on point but gets moved to off topic section except it doesn't really relate to other sections but most times if it has nothing of value to give to users, it's often shipped to off topic. I feel you need to check where you're wrong because a post that is educative doesn't get moved to off topic section at all.

Check his tag. Everything will become clear at once.

I want to believe that you're asking this because you do not know and wish to receive more response on that regard, if your post is being deleted, then you either write off topic, spam or made a post on what has already been discussed before.

If your post goes in line with what is being discussed or was found not to have been discussed before, the moderator will not delete such, except otherwise.


Totally not

Ah, so yet another AI shitposter who instead keeping it low comes and complains which can only result in even more tags.  :P

So I guess post in question was actually deleted and not moved, as he claims.

When topics are being moved then it is effected on fairness, no moderator is interested in checking ranks when deciding to move topic to a different board when is needed, don't make it look bad from your own view, next time before making any topic check the board if it's the right place for that topic, moreover there are also reputed members whose topics are being moved. Well, if you have the knowledge like you mentioned and wants to teach others, do so but make sure to be upright with the conditions when posting.

High activity and still Jnr. shows lot's of work needs to be done in accessing better knowledge other than continuously passing out informations.

As a newbie, have you considered that your post may be misleading, spam, or AI-generated? I doubt that an original, high-quality post, free from any issues, would be deleted outright without a real reason. I urge you, @OP, to stop thinking that senior members of this forum do not encourage newbies to improve. As someone willing to learn, you should focus on understanding why your post was deleted, ask questions to find out the reason, and work on improving your writing style and knowledge.

Anyway, the tag on your account says a lot already. Even if your posts are consistently moved to the right board or tagged off-topic, as you suggest, that does not show that you are improving. Just work on yourself.

You are right, but that doesn't mean you should use AI to generate and make posts in the forum.  ::)

You think you are clever, but we are not fools as well. Let me show you what I'm talking about.

This post from you was generated using an AI, but you, trying to be smart and clever, added deliberate mistakes in it to make it undetectable:


However, as I said, we are not a bunch of fools, so after correcting the deliberate mistakes you've added, this is how the post actually looks like:


And, detectors say:

Quillbot: 100% AI-generated
Copyleaks: 100% AI Content Found
GPTZero: 100% AI-generated
ZeroGPT: Your Text is 92.57% AI-generated
Sapling.ai: 100% Fake

So, do you actually expect the mods to let you keep doing that when your posts are reported? I know, it's an old post, but the post or posts you are referring to must have had something to do with it as well, and that's why they were removed.

But that's already happening. If you don't go against the forum rules, you will do just fine and no body will trouble you, that's why you have to be familiar with the important rules that you must not break while growing as a member on this forum and when you don't know them, you can ask question on the Meta board. The feedback on your account says that you are using AI to write your post for you and that can be a reason why your post have been taken down. The forum greatly supports contribution from human knowledge, ideas and experience and not from AI, if you are using AI, you are going against the rules. Try your best to write organic post and not AI generated.

From my experience so far on the forum moderators only delete posts easily that are just too obvious off topics. Many times I've come across posts that are off topic or in the wrong board still sitting there still not nuked or moved. Moderators can't actually spot every single off topic post and that is one of the major reasons why we all have the report button.

Learning doesn't stop you from discussing things in the wrong board same way it isn't too big of an excuse to create off topic posts. I get your point but some posts obviously deserve to be nuked.

Moderators can delete posts that have no value or off topic but mostly because of zero value. Some threads have no value and they will trash the whole threads, not only one or two posts in those zero-value threads.

Threads can be moved by moderators from original boards to Offtopic board if moderators consider those threads still have kind of value for discussions. If they consider threads are zero-value, those threads will be deleted.

Accounts only can be nuked if they spread malicious links or files and I don't think if it is only plagiarism or AI-generated content, accounts will be nuked too quickly. Forum members complain a lot about too soft treatment on accounts with AI-generated posts and even take too long time for bans.

Something not being mentioned here is that it is actually very rare for moderators to do anything on their own. Moderators mainly only act on reports from forum users. We users are the ones who tag a post or topic as having a problem.

Once something is reported the moderators 1st examine the reason given for the report and then look at what was reported.
After that 1 of 3 things happen:
 If the report seems unfounded it is marked as 'bad' and the posts are left alone
 If the report is in a questionable realm, the report is marked as unhandled but filed for later reference
 If the report is correct, the report is marked as good and appropriate action is taken

Personally my reporting score is 4845 good, 87 bad, 102 unhandled.

If folks follow the rules and stop posting off-topic crap, posting in wrong language, reporting a 'news item' without giving links or posting AI generated crap etc. then the Forum community will be happy to accept your posts and your posts will be left alone.

I don't even know where to start with this Op, from your start up point of the thread I thought you were heading to where high ranked members oppresses the newbies and discouragely hinders them from coping to also grow up while in the forum.
But on of a sudden you jumped over moderators moving posts t off topic board section.
However, if you think the moderator has been acting sentimental with you in particular by moving your posts to off topics in a regular which would be as a case of personal hatred, you can as well drag the Mod to the reputation board to sort it out.
What I only know of the moderators moving posts is when the post is not online of what the contents of a thread is talking about or when you opens a thread that is meaningless or having a very low quality.
This Moderators exercises is not hold up on only junior ranks rather as also the high ranks.
Just like you said, no one is an island and the forum is not a monopoly.

What makes you feel like the newbies are being oppressed here, remember this is a global platform on bitcoin discussion, bitcointalk already had it all, that everyone should talk his own, you're now to decide if what was being talked about you is right or not and prove such.


Why not also pick up the same challenge, for every glory has a story behind it, are you running away from being challenged, if i don't, others will do same on you, better man up and be well prepared for the task ahead.


You don't need to tell the moderators what their job is, they already know about all these and acted accordingly and appropriately, maybe you should be the one to read about spamming and learn how it related to the actions performed by moderators in deleting some posts and leaving some on off topic.


It might have been discussed before, so why repeating on it, such should be deleted and not moved to off topic, don't be naive for nothing on this, learn to make a quality post and search for related topics before creating one, then you're a step closer to being free from having a deleted post.


You're saying this clearly shows that you have no idea on how things are being done here.

You did not give any specific examples, but from what I have seen, posts can get moved to the off-topic section because they don’t serve any meaningful purpose and are only used by people wanting to boost their post count.

Every once in a while, I will report a thread or post for being off-topic when it is obvious that the author placed it in a section where it doesn’t quite fit because they otherwise wouldn’t get paid if it was made in the off-topic or politics section.

Threads will be moved to Off-topic if moderators consider those threads like this and moderators move threads to Off-topic board, not move seperating posts to Off-topic board. If your post is in a thread that is considered as "Other topics that might be of interest to bitcoiners", your post will be moved to Off-topic board as a consequence of that thread move to this board.

You speak as if there is no level to which one would change or improve.

Were you not yourself once banned on this forum ? Or am I the only user who at first used AI then later improve in terms of writing here in the community cause I have seen a lot of people. And for your information CHANGE IS CONSTANT so don't always conclude due to current situation.

Most of the DT guys here are found of tagging and not reviewing the tag later to see if the person have improved or adjusted and am sure this same jokers10 who tagged me is doing same and how is that fair. Because am very certain that I have improved my posting ability and yet nothing. But it's okay , the community is filled these as I have come to notice

It will only add to the works of forum admin. Let’s just be cautious on what topics to post or to respond so that we won’t end up posting some off-topics. Even myself I also end up posting some off-topics sometimes but instead of seeing that negatively, I made it my motivation to learn and grow more in the forum so that threads that are off-topics will be easily avoided.

In some cases I've seen newbies behaviors in the forum, most of them are never submissive that they're newbies and stick to learning from others who'd been here before them instead, they'd want to act like experienced users.
They literally don't understand the phrase that "reading" has a proficient educative offers the  "posting" in the case of being a newbie.
How do you even think you can teach anyone what you've no knowledge about and think you'll be in line of the topic of not talking rubbish?
Can imagine the forum without moderators would lost it reliable quality of posts if irrelevant post aren't whipped off.
I don't also think the Mod will trash newbies post when it carries qualities that could help others.

The forum rules exist for a reason but most people skim right through them. If your posts keep getting flagged or removed, take 10 minutes to actually read the guidelines instead of complaining. NGMI if you try to shortcut the system with AI content or off-topic posts. Save yourself the headache and just review the rules first (General advice, not a take on nobody.)