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After creating my last post I have been active reading things across the forum and I have to come across the service section days again and today I came across a new advert by little Mouse, but the responses I saw there weren't encouraging.. below are what I observed there..


Sometimes it's shocking to see such a thing that a project one has been promoting for long contact another client without the knowledge of the previous clients, and this is not something that should leads to attack or making gist of and even if it was me I would be speechless as Icopress did or anyone could do here.

After his post this was what I noticed from Ab D Royse777, which to me as a fellow in the line of business this shouldn't had been his reply, though I don't truly know if both had previous issues or are beefing each other but to me I don't think there is need for such comments from Royse777 as I know this hasn't gotten up to this to bring up such a comment.

I could had made this comment on the campaign thread but to respect the choice of little mouse by saying he doesn't want anymore comments on that thread have to create this one here if this comment as colleague in same community should put up such a post against another. So below shows the responses of Royse777.


Another respond again showing there is something cooking beneath


Then from his last comment I had to understand that his post is going directly as Icopress has been brainwashing his clients against him. But even as that I don't think a responsible person should do this and it doesn't show any atom or iota of maturity towards Royse777 and a kind of trying to create war against two persons here.

So I brought up this here for people to know whether such post is really necessary from a reputable manager like Royse777? Though I know he would add me to the list of Icopress thougue but I don't care if he does that and I am not afraid of anyone tags, truth must be told and my post is neutral I don't support anyone rather trying to make things right and to stop those childish attacks.

To discuss what? If you are neutral, no need to bring up a discussion like this. Just leave them both alone than to discuss a matter that will not end for now.

In my experience I have seen a couple companies do something like this and they are trying to grab more clients based off of another managers popularity. Certain people follow certain managers and unfortunately not much icopress can do if his client felt like giving another guy a try. Doesn't look like he is acting unprofessional based off the quoted comments you posted.

I will go read the thread and see if you are posting true comments from Royse, if so it's pretty petty of him to post anything like that. He should do it in private IMO and act with some class. Little Mouse looks to be acting totally professional by the quoted comments you posted.

Just skimmed through the campaign thread and you are posting what was actually said. All of them should keep whatever feelings they have on the situation private.

This thread is unnecessary, except you are basically looking for some drama in this board. If such a thread should even exist in the first place, then it should have been started by one of the parties involved in the "squabble", but since neither of them did, it means they are not interested in debating on it any further and you shouldn't too.

I don't know the need for this thread, it's uncalled for to create this thread and please respect our community and the managers by locking this thread, everything is fine and good since all ended with a positive outcome.

Wishing both all the best on the project, we all know that BC.game casinos are one big entity that has a lot of budget for their promotions and in both forum and forum BC is doing aggressive marketing and promotion, I saw some local content creators from my country promoting BC.game on their social media handles.

So let it be and we shouldn't create unnecessary discussions around such a trivia issues Please lock this thread.

For what it's worth - I went for a decade without a paid signature, then I went with ICO.   He has never written anything negative to me about any other campaign managers.

The parties involved will create a thread about any issue if they feel there's something to address or if they are looking for an opinion. If they haven't done it, then maybe they want it to be that way, so I don't see why it's necessary for you to "fight their fight" unless if of course you are also directly affected. No need to ignite the fire that is not there.

What harm it will do to you? Zero.

Regarding professionalism I would rather speak my words publicly than silently, secretly. That word "speechless" came from his disappointment and anger. He could not accept a project to get away from his hand. Not many knows the dark character of icopress.

Obviously there are beefing between him and me. It's not a secret at all. You don't seems like a newbie account but if you truly is then you don't know the past.

icopress contacts my clients secretly. He shamelessly paints me black with the mixer of 2% truth and 98% lies. He suggest my clients that having me as their campaign manager will not benefit their business reputation, it's like I have not achieved anything in the last 10 years from Bitcointalk. He tries to influence negatively about the feedback of my trust page. He tells them that with me they can not scale their business. He tells them that I contact his clients as like he is the subject of the contact. He don't stop there, he continues to suggest my clients that I am a pathological liar and a plagiarist. He also tells them that my other clients messages him with complains against me that they are not satisfied with my work as if they wants to hire him.

Will you call it professionalism?

I get these type of messages from my clients occasionally but don't speak about it publicly. It really does not look good that two senior campaign managers are fighting with each others. The recent one was not even a month old. But today when I saw the comment from icopress on Little Mouse's campaign thread, I knew his intention. Let's hope Little Mouse don't became his target.

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My massive portfolio (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5328445.0) speaks for itself. I have managed over 100s of campaigns, made many brands top in their own industry. many businesses scaled up 100x (from zero to top of the tier) but icopress tells my clients his made up stories in their PM to confuse them. He tries to plant doubts in their mind so that they feel it was a bad decision for them to have their campaign with me. That's icopress.

No one should be surprised that such a thread was opened in this section, even LM himself suggested it because the discussion was taking place in the campaign thread and that was not the right place.

I hope it doesn't go too far, because LM doesn't usually get into trouble, and from what he said and
yahoo62278 also finds normal, the initiative came from the company.

In any case I refrain from commenting further lest someone starts seeing supposed alts of mine sending PMs or contacting on Telegram.

It seems clearly you create threads against Roysee. If you have any issues with him, sort it privately. For a long time I have been away from the forum drama; you could say I am matured now. In my opinion, you seem focused on this thread against Roysee rather than to discuss the campaign thread. It's true LM suggested creating a thread on reputation because the signature thread didn't look good with these kinds of discussions, and applicants would be a bit confused though.

However, I talked with LM about this campaign, either its real team or an imposter. Because the domain name is different from the older one. LM ensures it's a real team, and he has verified it. So he is doing his job. He clearly mentioned he is holding funds for a week, so no confusion. Whoever wants to can apply for a week since LM already cleared everything.

So, instead of public discussion, you may ask directly to the manager if you have any confusion. Still, it's not on the stage to blame someone or call them unprofessional. Don't attack anyone personally, it will create more arguments.

What I see is someone who is passionate about the malpractice of another. I can attest that not many here know or are purposefully negligent to his wrongdoings. Sometimes emotions might not look mature or professional, though what should be focused on is what is being said. Ask yourself, "what is happening behind the scenes?" Then go and dig. Things might start making more sense after enough digging ;)

This is exactly what the OP wanted to create. Drama, unnecessary titillation of the nerves of those responsible for running the companies. All this seems quite mean and low behavior.
A newbie account, clearly not real, is so cowardly that it starts calling for maturity and professionalism in others without being one itself.
I would not try to prove anything to such a cowardly guy, except that what these people he wants to blame have achieved causes envy and an inability to repeat the same.
OP, you are superfluous in this story; grow up and learn to look at yourself.

To be honest I see no beef here. LM was only pointing out what the campaign organizers told him in a bid  to clarify and handle the unnecessary drama which came up in the campaign thread and that is very professional, I also love the way LM stopped comments other than applications from the thread. ICO was also Keen, anybody in his shoes will feel betrayed but upon getting to understand LM didn't snitch that gave rise to the respond from ICO. Both parties are good from my own little observation and there is absolutely nothing here to make drama of.

It's really only gonna keep getting attention if we(including myself) keep posting in the topic. The OP hasn't even commented further, just opened the topic and disappeared hoping he would create drama and get people fighting. Failed attempt obviously.

Thread just needs locked IMO.

I just reported the thread to be locked but I would say from my experience that moderators are less inclined to act on sections like this where there is a lot of controversy.

We can refrain from commenting but it's not an absolute rule that everyone is necessarily going to respect.

Yes it's immature and unprofessional. There is a lot of backstabbing, pettiness, and vindictive behavior by those who hold the most power on this forum. It's why mostly only scammers would consider advertising on this shithole. Everybody already knows this but they are so eager to silence any discussion because they are more focused on getting their bag by whatever means.

Alt account. Obviously trying to gain some merit because he noticed an unusual post. Still, he won’t write from the original account so as not to offend the three managers involved in the drama.
He won’t lock it because, in essence, he’s not even interested in the outcome of this discussion.

The report has been marked as bad, so the moderators will not lock the thread. Anyway, since the OP is no longer active and all the replies lately are of the same style, I guess the thread will eventually die on its own.

Didn't we often see such a style, it has become a public secret, throwing stones hiding hands, but OP is unconscious from behind someone sees who throws.

The first post on Utas COD without support, so it's natural, try if two or three discussions support it I am sure he dances in this Utas.

For example, someone supports him, I'm sure OP will come again and shout.

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OP, anyway what your profit and loss is in this problem.

As the OP did not contribute to the thread after creating it, he might not reply but that is not a reason not post.

In response to the question (Does this looks maturity and professionalism?), who in their right mind would state "yes"? Clearly, the OP picked up on something several of us did at the time including the so-called epic gloating. I opted to not post in this thread at the time.

Things have changed now as BC Game have ended their signature campaign. I wonder how the OP feels about the latest developments?

BC Game not only reduced the pay structure of the V2 campaign in July from $100 down to $75, they have since ended their signature campaign just a month later. How things have changed for BC Game from running overlapping signature campaigns to reducing their budget and then to subsequently abandon the campaign altogether. Though some might cite business plans and restructuring as reasons, others could conclude on the surface it seems to appear to be an epic fall from grace for BC Game.

OP (keeping in mind your original opinion when creating this thread), what are your opinions on this matter now?

I actually came across the thread were it was stated ended and I was like in the other part the opposite Is happy maybe who knows, or the management wasn't properly done and I could be wrong or right.
But however, that may be their limits and budget or they could be restructure and make another marketing, and even if they decide not to launched again here who else gonna question them for that because already they had made names across the space so even though they decided to run or not I don't think it would for any day affect them for whatever may be the case.

I didn't abandoned the topic rather I have been gradually looking into here to see reasonable response from people I expected to rely here, and of course you drew my attention and I decided to reply, couples with the sudden end of the campaign, I do have this strong feelings that something is underway cooking because I don't actually expect the campaign to end just like that.

The truth is always bitter and when you check the op carefully you would see that such statement aren't needed or shouldn't be something to post about, as we know, this is a community with higher traffic and population which should be taken things lightly with one another and even if you know that the managerial skills is becoming too competitive at least we know those that are capable in their management skills and everyone should just put up their best to do an excellent work without having grudges for each others.