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Title: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Abiky on April 21, 2025, 12:39:46 PM
With rising economic uncertainty in the US, many are wondering if we're already in a recession. Donald Trump's tariffs have further exaberbated the problem, raising the possibility for higher inflation rates in the long run. Not the US is getting affected by Trump's economic policies, but other countries too (China, Canada, Mexico, etc). President Trump promised the pain will be short-lived, but what if the damage is irreversible in the long run?

This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: viljy on April 21, 2025, 01:09:17 PM
Inflation is quite possible. The dollar is already declining against other currencies. By the way, the best indicator is the gold price, which has updated its ATH. Or another very illustrative example, when the ruble rises against the dollar at a low oil price. However, Trump needs a cheap dollar if he intends to revive production in the United States, as well as in order for money from financial markets to flow into the national debt. However, there is a danger that when the dollar inflates, large holders of treasuries will simply start selling them, for example, Japan (the largest holder of treasuries) or China. Such a scenario would certainly increase the risk of hyperinflation.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Japinat on April 21, 2025, 01:46:05 PM
Hyperinflation is unlikely, because if it were to happen, most of the world would struggle alongside it. Think of it like Bitcoin crashing and dragging down the entire altcoin market. That’s essentially how the USD operates as the dominant global currency right now. So while hyperinflation is technically possible, the chances are practically zero, closest to it is only "inflation".


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: moneystery on April 21, 2025, 01:49:59 PM
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This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???

tariffs are already the worst decision of trump which could have a negative impact on the us economy and cause higher inflation.. and coupled with the decision of the brics countries to dedollarize, it will affect the value of the usd. but it will not cause hyperinflation-- basically that is just a worst case scenario and it just won't happen.. because right now the us  position as the world's leading reserve currency is still immensely strong regardless of the global economic and political turmoil.. and the us economy is still the largest in the world, they are still strong enough to be able to face the economic challenges ahead.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Apocollapse on April 21, 2025, 02:04:15 PM
I think it won't because we can call it's hyperinflation if the price of goods and services rise at least 50% in a month. 10% is already high though, in US the inflation rate is just around 2%-4%.

Yeah the tariffs will affect almost every countries, but I don't think their inflation would hit 50% even for short term.

Other countries can use other currency to trade globally e.g. Bitcoin, they no longer need to stick with Dollar, de-dollarization will happen.

Hyperinflation is a severe economic condition characterized by an extraordinarily rapid increase in prices, typically defined as an inflation rate exceeding 50 percent per month.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Ziskinberg on April 21, 2025, 02:54:10 PM
This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.


The US is still the top dog in the world, but the competition is tight - especially with China. So, right now, it's all about strategy, and the US will do whatever it takes to stay on top. It's not just about who has the strongest economy but also about alliances, and the US has been building those up for years to keep its power. Sure, Trump messed up by picking fights with the wrong countries, but I still think the US will stay the strongest. Yeah, inflation might go up, but it won’t spiral out of control like hyperinflation.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on April 21, 2025, 03:11:01 PM
I think it won't because we can call it's hyperinflation if the price of goods and services rise at least 50% in a month. 10% is already high though, in US the inflation rate is just around 2%-4%.

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Hyperinflation is a severe economic condition characterized by an extraordinarily rapid increase in prices, typically defined as an inflation rate exceeding 50 percent per month.

That's right, I'll bet the OP didn't know that definition when he opened the thread. You can have very high inflation without getting anywhere near hyperinflation. Furthermore, if we assume that hyperinflation continues for one year, at a minimum 50% monthly price increase, this would mean an annual increase of 12,874.6%. The 10% annual (official) inflation rate of a couple of years ago is nothing compared to this.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: STT on April 21, 2025, 11:59:30 PM
Hyperinflation has been said to not occur except on purpose, its some extreme measure that has become a common term.  We'd have to be losing half the value of money every few months or similar, it wont be that extreme unless it was done on purpose.   What is already true is there is too much debt stored up for the productive yield to pay off sensibly, those words are bad enough without mentioning hyper.

What could be true without exaggeration is that the cost of serving debt for US treasuries exceeds all of the fiscal budget.  That is it could take all taxable revenue just to pay interest, that would involve suspension of all spending especially defense and military which is particularly expensive.   Before that occurs probably some sharp measures are taken first, many involuntary but this is a process seen elsewhere in other governments and countries.
 The only new part would be that it does not usually occur to the worlds primary reserve currency, so people do speculate this first will change and be part of the process of change.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Abiky on April 22, 2025, 12:54:44 AM
Inflation is quite possible. The dollar is already declining against other currencies. By the way, the best indicator is the gold price, which has updated its ATH. Or another very illustrative example, when the ruble rises against the dollar at a low oil price. However, Trump needs a cheap dollar if he intends to revive production in the United States, as well as in order for money from financial markets to flow into the national debt. However, there is a danger that when the dollar inflates, large holders of treasuries will simply start selling them, for example, Japan (the largest holder of treasuries) or China. Such a scenario would certainly increase the risk of hyperinflation.

Everything is going down. From the stock market, to the crypto market, everything is in the "red zone". Investors are panic selling as they move their capital into Gold instead. Even Bitcoin is affected. Be aware that a weaker US Dollar, will greatly increase odds of losing its position as the world's reserve currency. Trust in the US will be lost, paving the way for a new superpower to take over the world.

All in all, I believe hyperinflation under Donald Trump is now a possibility. Only if the tariffs strategy fails in the long run. Would you imagine the USD's inflation going as high as Venezuela's Bolivar? It would be a complete disaster. Hang on tight as this is going to be wild ride. :D


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Darker45 on April 22, 2025, 01:58:02 AM
That's the worst-case scenario which I think is far from happening to the US. Trump doesn't totally control the US alone. I'm sure sane people around him will tell him to stop when he's already pushing the economy to the brink of collapse.

He's just started his second presidency. He's in the heat of implementing whatever he has in mind. So far, there were reconsiderations, step-backs, suspensions, and whatnot. All this shows that he isn't impervious to recommendations and suggestions. His team listens, bargains, negotiates, and so on.

I'm sure alternative policies and approaches and deals are explored way before a hyperinflation ensues.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: SilverCryptoBullet on April 22, 2025, 02:42:17 AM
This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???
Hyperinflation already happened in the USA since pandemic. You can see how their government and central bank printed massive money and dump it to the USA money supply since Covid-19.

Since the pandemic, USA printed nearly 80% of ALL US Dollars in circulation, that makes a 375% jump in 3 years. (https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1695809591047491857)

Is this jump big enough to call as hyperinflation?
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Below is a chart of the US money supply.

Since 2020, the US has printed nearly 80% of ALL US Dollars in circulation.

To put that in perspective, at the start of 2020 we had ~$4 trillion in circulation.

Now, there is nearly $19 TRILLION in circulation, a 375% jump in 3 years.

We are paying the price for trillions of Dollars that were printed seemingly overnight.

Why is the Fed surprised that inflation hit a 40-year high?


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: viljy on April 22, 2025, 07:09:22 AM
Inflation is quite possible. The dollar is already declining against other currencies. By the way, the best indicator is the gold price, which has updated its ATH. Or another very illustrative example, when the ruble rises against the dollar at a low oil price. However, Trump needs a cheap dollar if he intends to revive production in the United States, as well as in order for money from financial markets to flow into the national debt. However, there is a danger that when the dollar inflates, large holders of treasuries will simply start selling them, for example, Japan (the largest holder of treasuries) or China. Such a scenario would certainly increase the risk of hyperinflation.

Everything is going down. From the stock market, to the crypto market, everything is in the "red zone". Investors are panic selling as they move their capital into Gold instead. Even Bitcoin is affected. Be aware that a weaker US Dollar, will greatly increase odds of losing its position as the world's reserve currency. Trust in the US will be lost, paving the way for a new superpower to take over the world.

All in all, I believe hyperinflation under Donald Trump is now a possibility. Only if the tariffs strategy fails in the long run. Would you imagine the USD's inflation going as high as Venezuela's Bolivar? It would be a complete disaster. Hang on tight as this is going to be wild ride. :D

I don't think there can be a new superpower instead of the United States. The dollar will one day cease to be a reserve currency, but it will not be replaced by some national currency of another power. Probably, the new world currency will be based on a different principle, and even, perhaps, not on the debt principle. But that's still many decades away. In the meantime, the flight to gold is obvious. But I suspect that bitcoin will not be ignored by investors either, because gold has one important nuance.

An investor should possess only physical gold, but mostly "Paper Gold" is traded, which is already as much as there is not in all combined gold mines and deposits on our planet. How will these obligations be covered? Gold, no way. But with bitcoin, such manipulation is impossible.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on April 22, 2025, 08:54:13 AM
Hyperinflation already happened in the USA since pandemic. You can see how their government and central bank printed massive money and dump it to the USA money supply since Covid-19.

No, it hasn't happened. You wouldn't have made that statement if you had cared to know what hyperinflation is but also it was as easy as reading what Apocollapse wrote or what I wrote instead of just reading the OP and rushing to write your response without reading the discussion after the OP.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: cabron on April 22, 2025, 09:15:56 AM

US will not struggle because they can print USD. Even if they print more and more they will still have the USD being used by many countries. Hyperinflation is very possible upon printing trillions as they are already saying US has been in recession for months. They are just not saying it.

I'm sure when the country is in hardship, the citizen can feel it especially the poor and the middle class while there is a mass layoff. If they are allowing shop lifting as long as they only get less than $1000, there really is a problem in the country.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: peter0425 on April 22, 2025, 02:06:59 PM
With rising economic uncertainty in the US, many are wondering if we're already in a recession.
It is not worrying yet as US is not completely in a recession yet. Their GDP is not as bad as people might think but a lot of people might see warning signs of recession already.
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This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???
US might not be in their best situation right now but certainly not the worst and they would not collapse immediately tomorrow. The dollar is still quite strong despite diminishing value. They can still control their economy. If they continue to make stupid decision then they really will be in trouble.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: slapper on April 22, 2025, 03:44:08 PM
Good instinct. But hyperinflation? No. Not now. Not even close. The US is inefficient, yes. It's not Argentina, though. Since no other suit fits (not because it's acquired legitimacy), the USD still wears the reserve crown

We are currently witnessing the slow and steady fall of global monetary power. It wasn't Trump's tariffs that caused this. They just accelerated a world already tilting toward multipolarism. Tariffs breed inefficiency. Inefficiency breeds inflation. And in this context, inflation becomes more about existential hedging than about supply chains

China’s stockpiling gold. Russia’s de-SWIFTing. BRICS is talking about a currency backed by commodities. These aren’t “de-dollarization efforts”. These are contingency plans, the geopolitical version of people purchasing bottled water before the storm

Will that storm become hyperinflation? Probably not. But a more divided reserve system? A gold-backed BRICS credit pool? USD losing some pricing power in key trade corridors? Absolutely possible

Keep in mind: money is a trust contract wrapped in collective mythology. Once that narrative frays, it doesn’t snap, it melts

And when myth melts, metals rise


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Abiky on April 22, 2025, 04:23:38 PM
I don't think there can be a new superpower instead of the United States. The dollar will one day cease to be a reserve currency, but it will not be replaced by some national currency of another power. Probably, the new world currency will be based on a different principle, and even, perhaps, not on the debt principle. But that's still many decades away. In the meantime, the flight to gold is obvious. But I suspect that bitcoin will not be ignored by investors either, because gold has one important nuance.

An investor should possess only physical gold, but mostly "Paper Gold" is traded, which is already as much as there is not in all combined gold mines and deposits on our planet. How will these obligations be covered? Gold, no way. But with bitcoin, such manipulation is impossible.

Will that "new world currency" be Bitcoin? We've seen institutional investment companies buying BTC like crazy, while governments are planning on adding BTC to their reserves. El Salvador became the first country to adopt BTC as legal tender, while others are exploring the possibility of doing so. Maybe there's a chance BTC will become the world's reserve currency in the future?

As for the next superpower that will take the US' reign, I think either China or the EU will "fit the bill nicely". I mean, empires can't last forever. And with Donald Trump's actions (especially the on-going trade war), we're seeing American decline accelerate at a fast pace. Countries are now laser-focused on moving away from the USD. The uncertainty surrounding the FED's independence, adds more fuel to the fire. So yeah, there will be another superpower that will replace the United States in the future. I should only be a matter of time before this happens. Just my two sats. ;D


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Fortify on April 22, 2025, 07:05:43 PM
With rising economic uncertainty in the US, many are wondering if we're already in a recession. Donald Trump's tariffs have further exaberbated the problem, raising the possibility for higher inflation rates in the long run. Not the US is getting affected by Trump's economic policies, but other countries too (China, Canada, Mexico, etc). President Trump promised the pain will be short-lived, but what if the damage is irreversible in the long run?

This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???

Nothing seems impossible right now with Trump at the helm, after all - he's hinted at wanting to takeover allies Canada and Greenland, which is an unthinkable and disgraceful statement for a US president to make. The US dollar is the reserve currency of the world, so it is probably the least likely currency to undergo hyper inflation because there is so much of it in use right now. But it is certainly weakening due to the erratic nature of government, which has never been encountered to this degree and with such a cult like cowering of all other Republican party members. While the dollar has taken a big dent, it is very unlikely to ever suffer from hyperinflation but it could suffer from a much smaller type of inflation.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: takuma sato on April 22, 2025, 08:58:07 PM
This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???
Hyperinflation already happened in the USA since pandemic. You can see how their government and central bank printed massive money and dump it to the USA money supply since Covid-19.

Since the pandemic, USA printed nearly 80% of ALL US Dollars in circulation, that makes a 375% jump in 3 years. (https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1695809591047491857)

Is this jump big enough to call as hyperinflation?
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Below is a chart of the US money supply.

Since 2020, the US has printed nearly 80% of ALL US Dollars in circulation.

To put that in perspective, at the start of 2020 we had ~$4 trillion in circulation.

Now, there is nearly $19 TRILLION in circulation, a 375% jump in 3 years.

We are paying the price for trillions of Dollars that were printed seemingly overnight.

Why is the Fed surprised that inflation hit a 40-year high?

But that was a very specific point in time. In all honestly, what were governments supposed to do? just let everyone go bankrupt? if there was a time to do that, then it must have been that one. If you have to close businesses for a major cause that is beyond your responsibility, then that is were governments should step in. We would have seen a bigger disaster if everyone was just left there with no help. Now you could argue if the lockdowns were necessary or not. Im not an expert in this field so I will not comment on that. What i'll say is that in any case, governments did not explain that there is no free lunch, and all that money printing would need to be paid back in one way or another, and now we are seeing the results, even if they try to paint it as if it's not the lockdown moneyprinting that caused most of the inflation (they would aim at whatever what was going on at the time like the russia invading ukraine). But now we are seeing deflation, so Powell did a good job lowering inflation. We will see what happens next.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: l99l on April 22, 2025, 09:09:16 PM
The possibility of USD hyperinflation, I generally see as a low probability in light of economic theories and historical examples.
Global trade is shifting to other currencies, the Dollar is no longer as strong as it used to be, and this is a fact, the demand for the Dollar is decreasing every day.
With Trump's tariffs, the demand for the Dollar is decreasing even more. The tariffs have triggered uncertainty and fears of a trade war in global markets. This has called into question the safe haven status of the USD.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Synchronice on April 23, 2025, 08:58:13 AM
With rising economic uncertainty in the US, many are wondering if we're already in a recession. Donald Trump's tariffs have further exaberbated the problem, raising the possibility for higher inflation rates in the long run. Not the US is getting affected by Trump's economic policies, but other countries too (China, Canada, Mexico, etc). President Trump promised the pain will be short-lived, but what if the damage is irreversible in the long run?

This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???
Well, I'd say that USD hyperinflation is not a possibility but to be honest, we live in a time where anything is possible. I could never imagine if the US had such a dumb presidential candidates like Trump, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris but here they are.  A country that's number one country in the world with 350 million people, had the dumbest presidential candidates.

Anyways, I still don't think hyperinflation is possible but hard times will come. What Trump does is crazy and unnecessary. Sometimes his actions remind me some street interviews where people are asked geographical questions and some Americans have no idea about other continents or countries, some of them still think that Europe is a country, they don't know the capital of Italy, Spain, Germany, France and so on. Trump reminds me these street interviews because he thinks that the world is spinning around the US. That's not true and that's delusional. Trump accelerates de-dollarization and his attitude is making the US very bad and unreliable partner for the rest of the world. This will not lead anything good for the USA and for US dollar but hyperinflation won't happen anytime soon cause dollar has roots very deeply.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: viljy on April 23, 2025, 09:51:45 AM
I don't think there can be a new superpower instead of the United States. The dollar will one day cease to be a reserve currency, but it will not be replaced by some national currency of another power. Probably, the new world currency will be based on a different principle, and even, perhaps, not on the debt principle. But that's still many decades away. In the meantime, the flight to gold is obvious. But I suspect that bitcoin will not be ignored by investors either, because gold has one important nuance.

An investor should possess only physical gold, but mostly "Paper Gold" is traded, which is already as much as there is not in all combined gold mines and deposits on our planet. How will these obligations be covered? Gold, no way. But with bitcoin, such manipulation is impossible.

Will that "new world currency" be Bitcoin? We've seen institutional investment companies buying BTC like crazy, while governments are planning on adding BTC to their reserves. El Salvador became the first country to adopt BTC as legal tender, while others are exploring the possibility of doing so. Maybe there's a chance BTC will become the world's reserve currency in the future?

As for the next superpower that will take the US' reign, I think either China or the EU will "fit the bill nicely". I mean, empires can't last forever. And with Donald Trump's actions (especially the on-going trade war), we're seeing American decline accelerate at a fast pace. Countries are now laser-focused on moving away from the USD. The uncertainty surrounding the FED's independence, adds more fuel to the fire. So yeah, there will be another superpower that will replace the United States in the future. I should only be a matter of time before this happens. Just my two sats. ;D

Why do you think there can only be one superpower? For example, before 1991, there were two superpowers, the United States and the USSR. In the future, there may also be several superpowers, for example, the United States and China, but the world currency will not be the dollar or the yuan, but something else. I doubt it will be Bitcoin.

Bitcoin has become more of a speculative commodity, an investment, in general, it is similar to gold in this. Besides, the currency shouldn't be so volatile. Another question is that when this new currency appears, the question will arise, "what is the need for bitcoin now?" After all, his value essentially lies in the expectation of his future role.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Stella Mese on April 23, 2025, 10:30:35 AM

With rising economic uncertainty in the US, many are wondering if we're already in a recession. Donald Trump's tariffs have further exaberbated the problem, raising the possibility for higher inflation rates in the long run. Not the US is getting affected by Trump's economic policies, but other countries too (China, Canada, Mexico, etc). President Trump promised the pain will be short-lived, but what if the damage is irreversible in the long run?

This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???
Well, that is a certainty that will happen in USD Hyperinflation. It will definitely happen quickly and affect the US and world economy because they did it themselves from the effects of leaders who did not think twice before implementing the tariffs, and Donald Trump certainly did it, many people blamed it all, with the impact of very high inflation causing the currency to have a low value against goods that will be purchased.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: davis196 on April 23, 2025, 10:39:41 AM
With rising economic uncertainty in the US, many are wondering if we're already in a recession. Donald Trump's tariffs have further exaberbated the problem, raising the possibility for higher inflation rates in the long run. Not the US is getting affected by Trump's economic policies, but other countries too (China, Canada, Mexico, etc). President Trump promised the pain will be short-lived, but what if the damage is irreversible in the long run?

This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???

Talking about hyperinflation happening in the USA is simply absurd. The US dollar cannot face inflation levels above 10-15% per year.
America might be in a crisis, but it's definitely not the same as an underdeveloped "banana republic". Maybe Trump will negotiate deals with Europe, Japan, the UK or even China. This will most likely de-escalate the global trade war. Nobody knows what is going to happen.
Dedollarization is an ongoing process and it will continue further, despite Trump's efforts to preserve the US dollar as the global reserve currency. By the way, Trump calling the FED chairman a "loser" and trying to intervene with the Federal Reserve is more damaging to the US dollar than any projects of a "BRICS currency" or CBDCs.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: bitLeap on April 23, 2025, 11:22:39 AM
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This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???

tariffs are already the worst decision of trump which could have a negative impact on the us economy and cause higher inflation.. and coupled with the decision of the brics countries to dedollarize, it will affect the value of the usd. but it will not cause hyperinflation-- basically that is just a worst case scenario and it just won't happen.. because right now the us  position as the world's leading reserve currency is still immensely strong regardless of the global economic and political turmoil.. and the us economy is still the largest in the world, they are still strong enough to be able to face the economic challenges ahead.
During that time the paper currency which the US printed freely certainly Hyperinflation is quite reasonable. Trump's narrative in the second period as president is different from the first time he became president. Now the narrative has changed completely and seems a little more aggressive. I know Trump is a skilled negotiator but for the current period it is very invisible and instead makes other countries a place for experiments. Imposing tariffs on various countries, wanting to get a request for mercy, Trump actually gets resistance. Until the dedollarization that had previously faded became even more fiery, Trump's challenge really got a fight back.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: X-ray on April 24, 2025, 03:22:45 AM
That'd be bad since most of my liquid is in USD.

I personally don't think there will be USD hyper inflation, it's being sought after everywhere, I might be biased, but even other currency are having a bad time, if you see global M2, countries are printing money, so not only happening in USA, other countries too.

If any I think USD can be stronger after trump is done with his game.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: jaberwock on April 24, 2025, 03:21:24 PM
With rising economic uncertainty in the US, many are wondering if we're already in a recession. Donald Trump's tariffs have further exaberbated the problem, raising the possibility for higher inflation rates in the long run. Not the US is getting affected by Trump's economic policies, but other countries too (China, Canada, Mexico, etc). President Trump promised the pain will be short-lived, but what if the damage is irreversible in the long run?

This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.
Yeah, "hyper" inflation is impossible. Well in "theory" of course anything is possible, so yeah by mathematics we can't say 50% per month inflation is "impossible". But, we also can't rule out that I can become the best football player in the world and score 30 goals in premier league. Same logic applies for both, there is no "real" impossibility, they are both mathematically possible, but we all know that neither is possible and neither will happen.

Inflation being as high as 10% is the most risky one and is also realistic because if things go badly, then it could happen. For example if the rates are cut sharply, then of course it can happen, that is why it's stable and not going down too much, not even a bit. So hyper part is wrong, rest could be true.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Abiky on April 25, 2025, 12:12:03 PM
Talking about hyperinflation happening in the USA is simply absurd. The US dollar cannot face inflation levels above 10-15% per year.
America might be in a crisis, but it's definitely not the same as an underdeveloped "banana republic". Maybe Trump will negotiate deals with Europe, Japan, the UK or even China. This will most likely de-escalate the global trade war. Nobody knows what is going to happen.
Dedollarization is an ongoing process and it will continue further, despite Trump's efforts to preserve the US dollar as the global reserve currency. By the way, Trump calling the FED chairman a "loser" and trying to intervene with the Federal Reserve is more damaging to the US dollar than any projects of a "BRICS currency" or CBDCs.

With the tariff crisis and now Trump threatening to fire FED chairman Jerome Powell, anything's possible. Confidence/trust will be lost in the US, creating a recession that will ultimately lead towards hyperinflation. A "soft landing" would no longer be possible. Unless, Trump backs off and decides to lower tariffs among its trading partners (China included). Even if that happens, the damage is already done.

I'm afraid "De-dollarization" is inevitable. BRICS is quickly devising a new international payments system that's rumored to be powered by Blockchain tech. The EU is also working on its "Digital Euro" program. Meanwhile, Trump cancelled the development of a CBDC with a executive order. While this is good for American citizens, it will leave the country behind in the dust. Especially when others are staying ahead of the game by adopting the latest innovations within the FinTech space. We'll never know what the future holds, so expect the unexpected.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: avikz on April 25, 2025, 02:01:51 PM

This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???

It is surely a possibility. However the likelihood of it happening is very slim. US has built such an economy over the years, that's not fragile. Although a lot of countries will be happy if US falls, but that's not going to happen either. US can use their military prowess to stop such things and also start threatening any de-dollarisation initiatives.

However, if the industries start leaving US and move their production elsewhere, then US is under a huge risk. The tariff war is not good for anyone. But Trump is trying to level the playground. a lot of unfold and a lot to watch, I presume.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: DeathAngel on April 25, 2025, 02:32:25 PM
What Trump is doing at the moment is no good for anybody. It doesn’t make any sense at all, he could easily have put a 1% - 5% levy on imports & it wouldn’t have caused so much devastation. He is creating widespread problems, I can’t believe he can be this stupid, can he?


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: bitgolden on April 26, 2025, 06:10:34 AM
While what Trump is doing isn't good for anyone, it is also not that great of a threat to cause a "hyperinflation", you are not going to be buying eggs for 1 million  dollars each, that is hyper inflation. Zimbabwe is hyperinflation, a kid born back in the day, and is 60 years old now, could have seen the time he could buy eggs for 5 and also 5 billion, those two at the same time isn't reasonable and doesn't make sense.

There are "piles" of money for them at the moment, that is what hyperinflation looks like. USA never has 20% a month increase on inflation and never will, the yare too strong for that to be ever the case, if that ever happens, or at least if they ever get worse, they will recover it by selling some stuff and getting some debts paid.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: shield132 on April 26, 2025, 07:42:16 AM
With rising economic uncertainty in the US, many are wondering if we're already in a recession. Donald Trump's tariffs have further exaberbated the problem, raising the possibility for higher inflation rates in the long run. Not the US is getting affected by Trump's economic policies, but other countries too (China, Canada, Mexico, etc). President Trump promised the pain will be short-lived, but what if the damage is irreversible in the long run?

This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???
Hyperinflation is unlikely, no one wants USD hyperinflation because it will negatively affect every country, it will be a burden for the working class and this will create a chaos in many countries which will result in protests against local governments. This is not what governments want and the US economy is also strong enough to not let hyperinflation happen. One of the key benefits of the USA is that it's a global currency and hyperinflation in the US means hyperinflation in the world. You also have to keep in mind that people in many countries still trust USD and keep their savings in this currency because their local currencies are trash, this makes USD stronger.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Moreno233 on April 26, 2025, 01:07:55 PM
With rising economic uncertainty in the US, many are wondering if we're already in a recession. Donald Trump's tariffs have further exaberbated the problem, raising the possibility for higher inflation rates in the long run. Not the US is getting affected by Trump's economic policies, but other countries too (China, Canada, Mexico, etc). President Trump promised the pain will be short-lived, but what if the damage is irreversible in the long run?

This makes me wonder if hyperinflation will take over America soon. The USD is still the world's leading reserve currency, though. However, rising "de-dollarization" efforts could put America in jeopardy soon.

Thoughts? ???
As the pain of Trump's policies rages in other nations, it becomes natural that countries will begin to seek alternatives to the US and the dollar and when such alternative is available, it will impact hugely in the US and I hope we don't get to that point because it will mark the beginning to the end of the US dominance in global stage. Maybe Trump knows this which is the reason for some of his recent moves such as striking a deal with Iran, and making peace between Ukraine and Russia. If he achieve these two important things, that will earn him some level of respect in the international community.


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: summonerrk on April 27, 2025, 05:08:33 AM
After all these statements by Trump about tariffs and various relationships with other countries, I began to think that he is an absolutely unpredictable person and at the same time, every word he says influences the whole world, affecting political orders and relationships between trade chains of countries.
And on the Internet there are already many jokes and memes about how no one can predict Trump’s next move, that he acts completely unpredictably.
However, it seems to me that he continues the tradition of American presidents to strengthen the dollar and this is evidenced by the fact that Trump was very hunchbacked about the attempts of BRICS to create their own currency. And now he really does something that excites the whole world, but nevertheless I believe that in the future it will strengthen the dollar, even if for some time there may be "hard times".


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Akbarkoe on April 27, 2025, 12:05:33 PM
Dependence on the dollar has indeed become a difficult thing to tear down especially when the dollar is built with a strong system, but that does not mean it will last forever because the old system will be replaced by a new system, we know that many countries are in debt using the dollar and it will be endless and become one of the strengths of the dollar where countries need to pay debts using dollars, especially with an interest system that I think is quite high.

One day if debt repayment is allowed using other currencies such as bitcoin or others it will be very easy for a new system to enter. IMO


Title: Re: USD Hyperinflation: A possibility?
Post by: Abiky on April 29, 2025, 09:11:29 PM
Dependence on the dollar has indeed become a difficult thing to tear down especially when the dollar is built with a strong system, but that does not mean it will last forever because the old system will be replaced by a new system, we know that many countries are in debt using the dollar and it will be endless and become one of the strengths of the dollar where countries need to pay debts using dollars, especially with an interest system that I think is quite high.

One day if debt repayment is allowed using other currencies such as bitcoin or others it will be very easy for a new system to enter. IMO

It's difficult indeed. Especially when the USD is the world's reserve currency. However, Trump's recent actions will only worsen inflation in the long term. High tariffs + rate cuts from the FED will be complete and utter disaster. Imagine if Trump fires FED chairman Jerome Powell, too. Trust in the USD monetary system will be lost, paving the way for a new currency to take over the world.

Hyperinflation seems more likely now than it was before. We must buy and hold both Gold and Bitcoin to protect ourselves from such an scenario. I'm afraid more people will get poorer, while the rich, richer. And there's nothing we can do to fix it. :(