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There’s nothing wrong or disadvantage on using tools to compared odds of same match so I don’t get the point on why not make your strategy a little bit less hassle by skipping manually odds on multiple casino.



Correct me if I’m wrong here, Do the bookmaker doesn’t update the odds in case there’s significant changes before the match starts?

They can’t do anything about those who bet before the changes but they might update the odds after the news.

No matter how great humans do not know what hasn't happened in the future, the average sports gambling they can win based on the analysis of team A and team B during their match, but inaccurate 100% of the analysis can miss.

Telegram is indeed a nest for fraud, for that if you don't have knowledge about sports gambling or soccer at least 70%, don't bet and avoid fraudsters in telegrams, You really do not bring benefits to yourself, on the contrary of a profitable fraud.

As I said above, whatever tool you use can not guarantee you succeed in betting sports gambling, tipster only issues what has happened, but the tool can help you only 10% in sports gambling, the rest you must have knowledge about sports and your own analysis well, it is all obtained with you often watching teams after team and so on.

I only wait until the match is about to start so I check the players that are playing. This is very helpful for me than to be checking news all the time because I do not have such time for sport news.

Just 1 to 2% of my weekly income on gambling and betting and that is all. I do not care if I lose the bet or not.

Some people go this far to analyze the game before placing their bet but still, it isn't a guarantee that you would make profit. Why much stress when we are gambling for fun. Gamble is all about luck, and if you think that it's by your analysis, you are wrong because in the long run, you will run at loss.

What I have observed in different bookies is that, their odds are always similar week with a little difference. Which means that if you are sticking ti one same bookmarker, it doesn't change anything. If you love the sport that you are gambling on, you will always want to be updated on that sport by watching or listening to news updates.

From my experience there's no perfect strategy to analyze games and there's no guarantee that you will win, so we should hope to be lucky after we place our bets. I don't rely on predictions from social media, I take them on advisory levels because they themselves don't know what the outcome of their predictions will be. What I do is gather information about players and teams that I want to bet on and make my own decisions. That way I don't have to blame anyone if I lose, if I win I'll know that I deserve it. I agree with the OP that it's good to bet for fun, not for income because you cannot win all the time.

Maybe it is a bad thing or more of a con if you need to pay for it. In which in a way is true because there really is a lot of tools that require payment. But if you can find tools that are free then you should use that and make your life easier. There is no shame in using tools, it is not cheating. It just a way to bet more efficiently.
Yes that is correct. Often times we are warned by bookmakers making an error during early times of the day which if we catch early we could take advantage of. It is a good way to get an edge over the bookmakers if you are early and updated.

Sport betting is something that I am being moved to do and not by what I see or people that tends to be giving out tips for bettors, as I know I do have my methods of selections either I go for only 2 games or upto 5 + depending on how have made my analysis, and I do check them I didn't see a good outcome that would show that I will secure winning then I don't have to over think myself by betting on those games just for betting sake. If there are clear evidence of winning then I bet with another I wouldn't be that angered of myself for using such amount to bet, gambling is sweet when you used amount riskable or you so much do not apply any meaning to it to bet.

You tips could be helpful for good entry when making your prediction decisions on the sport games because it could contribute to an effort of spotting good outcomes between teams especially in the football where each activities of teams and individuals (players) are being speculated on the air.

Perhaps when you learn that some good top players from a strong team will not play a specific game, it can be determined that their strength will be decreased which if you justify your analysis just based on the team strengths, you might be making failed decision because the player(s) that makes the team be that strong will not be playing.

So if you don't follow up the updates, the bookmakers will get you convinced while still giving the team a strong rate with their odds.
But on a sincere note, this method could be stressful because you always have to keep your those teams on target for updates but yet, the strategy is not guaranteed so say it is better than the rest.

It is one of the means some people use to speculate what could be the outcome of a match but people that are betting frequently may not be using it, especially those that also go for leagues that are lower than top leagues. I only use it when betting on top leagues and not also all the time but I do not use it for small leagues. With how many leagues are in the world, most gamblers will not go for it all the time.  I am not saying it is not good to know the players that are playing but you can not know all the players in all those good leagues.

I don't have a favorite strategy I'm pretty random in betting on sports depending on my mood sometimes I bet on underdogs, you know the feeling when you win a bet with a weak team, there is joy and satisfaction.  ;D  And besides that I don't rely entirely on tools and tipsters but I also don't refuse to use information from other sources if it can help make wise decisions in my bets, the most important thing is I don't get out of risk management.

First of all comparing the odds with different bookmakers might not really have any positive results, I don't see the point of doing that...for the fact that you said you play for fun means that you are being genuine unlike others that claim to have winning strategies that puts them in profit.. There's nothing wrong In using prediction tools as long as you are doing your own research and not relying on them completely..one key thing that can make your strategy authentic is the fact that you take notes of vital informations about every match you bet on

Still some gamblers would not listen. Tines without number, so many of these gamblers have been scammed if their funds all in the name of getting good games to bet and win. Gambling is a 50-50 game. You either win or loss, so I don't see why someone would be so greedy or do I call it being stupid to paying a huge amount to some signal group for gambling. If you want to enjoy your bets, get familiar to the games you bet on. Know your players , there strength and place your bets in a way you think best fit. There's no guarantee you will make profits from your bets.

Personally I use sofa score and forebet, there's nothing wrong in using bet tools but the problem people have is knowing how to actually use them. My strategy is to select about 3 games with high value odds on forebet then I check out the line up of these games on sofa score and also check for other important details that might affect my prediction. We all have different strategies and how we go about our match selections but the most important thing is risk management, always remember that no strategy is a hundred percent sure.

I thought you were a promoter who is trying to hype a bookmaker  ;D but all the same, I think your strategy is simple enough and not strange from what is known already. We can actually predict and win using stats from the team like you mentioned. Injuries are one part of stats that is important to consider while trying to place a bet and that is why you have to be sure of the players coming to pitch and those who are going to be in the bench and likely replacement for those on the pitch. You don't bet just because you want to catch fun, you also want to win some money and you have to be certain of what you are getting from your analysis.

I go on low odd games, sometimes single bet do help me a lot although when going on single i do stake with higher amounts knowing too well that such bet always comes out winning and even though gambling is known to be game of luck, i am so much sure that I would win, sometimes my instincts do failed and I lost the game and don't panic because I gambled with the amount I can actually afford to lose without becoming that obsessed with it.

It is right time for anyone who wants to be gambling on sports specifically football to start following matches every day. If he doesn't have the time to watch games, such persons should always try to watch highlights. This is the only best approach to be lucky often in sports betting. It is better to stick to your way and predictions than to follow every channel, twitter spaces or anyone framing themselves to be soccer expert. Every time i have tried betting from prediction site i always lose. I am no fool to know nothing is certain like they claim.

Yeah except high rollers.

If we only bet a peanut, having @0.05 odds difference won't be that much and it's going to be expensive. Let's say:

A casino have 3 match offer higher odds than B and C casino,
B casino have 3 match offer higher odds than A and C casino,
C casino have 2 match offer higher odds than A and B casino.

When we make deposit, we have to pay transaction fees and when we withdraw our money, we have to pay transaction fees + additional charge by the casinos. Stick with one casino will be profitable than playing on three places.

Absolutely, there're bunch of scammers online, especially telegram where they know that they can hide their identity very well and only desperate greenhorns are scammed because they trust those scammers.

This is not a strategy.

This is yet not a strategy for spoting value bets unless you specifically have an extra ordinary way of doing it but if it's just comparing odds of the same games you selected on bookmaker A to the same games on bookmaker B, C or D, it would not produce a high value bet.

It's bad to do so. The consequences is bad.

This strategy can be more significant in spoting high value bets than the other two process you called a strategy. To spot high value bets, I follow lead with news and updates about any team that am interested on.

Same build up as i do, what becomes fun when you can't manually predict games according to satisfaction, i don't like tools so better ignored. Sports betting isn't as difficult as people do say, it becomes a challenge when the gambler takes gambling as income just what OP mentioned, taking gambling as fun expenses that can still do a little top up utmost reason why everyone has to get contented with whatever profits made during time of betting, once you attract for more on what has been benefited thats a straight way to lose everything.

You don't need the history of football to bet on games, just follow season games and try to watch most teams you bet on to give a better options when deciding on what odds to pick.

As I was reading the Op a thought came to my mind - although I bet for fun but still I’m curious to know if anyone here has become very lazy or have felt lazy about gambling after they decide that they are now gambling just for fun.

What I mean is that, there is a certain feeling you get when you know that something you’re doing is purely for fun - sometimes you won’t feel the need to do any extensive research or analysis since all your aim is just to have fun and you can do that by simply doing guess work and this habit usually lead to the generation of that lazy feeling so I’m curious to know if anyone has ever felt that kind of feeling.

If what I wrote above is true - then don’t that mean that playing for fun could also lead to less efficient bets? Since that lazy feeling makes you neglect your normal analysis and you might start having more bad bets as to when you’re more focused and balancing between income and fun.

These fake sports betting experts are not only on Telegram. They are on anywhere where football and sports betting is discussed - Instagram, X, Facebook, TikTok. I am yet to see them on LinkedIn though maybe because the people there aren't real.


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I like your strategy it is similar to the system I use. I share my time mostly on listening to football analysis because that is the method that is working best for me and I can get diverse perspectives from the analyst. Majorly, I can do other things while listening. My bets are then decided. I check is at least two bookmarkers for the best odds before I bet.

I closely monitored one of the popular tip stars in my local sport bookies, I noticed that truly someone has an information that is an insider information that makes some of their predictions come true, however guys also took this opportunity to advantage to post whatever this tipstars predicts with additional bets that makes it wrong hence leaving people in regrets yet this is not totally true that everything they predict is 100% true but most times slightly close...

So here is my strategy; after looking at their predictions, I heard over to other predictions sites compared them, and also look at the possibilities that it could come through by checking the stats of each team then make my conclusions.

After I tried this it worked and I kept using it then one day it all failed so I started betting whatever I feel like not depending on anything know fully well that if luck plays in I'll win but if not it's a loss.

They can also be on other social media because that is where they will target but I see them more since few years ago on Telegram. I think Telegram is their base now probably they make more money on Telegram. I always avoid them because I have a friend that is losing money to gambling that joined some of the groups but nothing good came out of it to this present day. My friend do tell me of how people are winning but he is not winning. Although I do not think he has paid money for such thing before because the people will have free groups or channels to attract customers and also have paid one also.

Few years back twitter and Facebook was their main objects to use but recently mostly are turning on telegram with their system is working better on this tool things have never been favorable for punters because they are not having results which admired them for jumping into this.

But good thing few horse racing and soccer experts are working for years and their fanbase is also increased due to their results few years back we run a group which was good in start but suddenly things gone wrong which give huge loses and all collapse gambling never works long time because they are paying some decent return of investment which is enough to give them improved fans but things never work consistently just staying for fun is always good.

I don't rely on any software or tipsters that call themselves experts because I believe sports betting is only for those who have a general interest in sports, and if you have a general interest in something, you should know enough about it without having anyone tell you anything for you to know it, so if you are already into sports, you don't need someone else to tell you which team is better or what game you should choose to make a bet on because you should already know it if you follow that sport closely.

What you do is mostly the things that any serious sports bettor does. If you are into sports betting, whether to get profits or to have some fun, you will do some analysis if you don't want to just keep losing and waste all your money, you keep yourself updated with the teams on which you plan to make bets, you stay updated about stadiums, player and team affairs, drama as you said, and all other stuff that might affect the outcome of a game.

Truth is that, scammers are every where and devising various means just to get their aim into limelight, so for sure tips stsrs4will definitely be trying they hands on a lot of speculations just to get the attention of sport bettors that are gullible to believe on their strategy that can never be consistent, as far as gambling is concerned, most especially sport betting, it's very hard to predict the outcome of games and get it right, so anyone that take fees or promote such offers to supply sure bets are scammers.

Sport games speculation and analysis is somewhat very easy to do, all that is needed is to be active in following sport games and event's and also being able to use past games to speculate future games and betting with in that line of thought, give you at least 30%.

Gambling for fun does not mean you do not want to win your bets, of course you want to. Gambling is about luck, so it is better you enjoy it as a fun activity rather than as a source of income, if not you'd run into different problems gambling and you may even become an addict or start selling your properties to gamble. I am enjoying the way i gamble and i have not felt lazy about it.

A thought like yours should be normal, but the reality is that it is increasingly difficult to find people like us who play for fun and not for profit.

I agree with you that being up to date with the news and updates about teams and players is essential to make informed decisions and make better bets because an injured player, a referee replacement or a conflict between players on the same team can significantly affect the odds and create opportunities for value bets that will not appear in ready-made statistics... this is something that only good bettors will be able to identify and take advantage of.

But, apart from this technical issue, I also think it is important not to get carried away by emotion and not to bet based on predictions or guesses from third parties... we need to have a critical and independent approach when betting.

I do not have a specific strategy for finding value bets, but I think that the combination of data analysis, news and discipline is essential to be successful when betting not only on football but on any other sport. And speaking of which, another important point is to only bet on what you really know... if you like basketball, and don't follow football, don't try to venture into betting on it just because they say the profits are higher.

Well, it's not even a strategy, that's probably what most bettors do, including me. A strategy is a definite plan, for example, to place a lot of small bets on high odds (on underdogs), or vice versa, a few big bets, but somehow for sure (on favorites).  In other words, a strategy is a generalized system that does not take into account specifics such as who quarreled with whom, and all sorts of internal contradictions in clubs. Why is that? It's stupid at first glance. Because the rumors and media stuffing themselves can be a deception, just calculated to ensure that bookmakers will take this into account in the odds. I won well last year using a strategy of multiple small bets. Of course, there was a bit of luck in this. However, the strategy requires a large bankroll, and if there is none, then my mostly place bets, similar to the system you described.

If anyone really have a way to keep winning games here and there, you think the first thing they will want to do is come online and tell you about it? And in return you pay for the calls? They will firstly enrich themselves with the strategy before they can even think about anyone else.

This is why I don't believe anyone online saying that they can give accurate sports call unless they go into the future with a time machine and come back right in front of me, we all know that sports bet are pure predictions, even if you make a call right and win its pure luck, you won't get same result another time.

People who fall for these are those who can't think for themselves, the world is still full of gullible people, this is the reason why scammers won't stop scamming because victims are everywhere, vulnerable with no common sense.

For the fact that you are being hundred percent real means that your strategy deserves to be put out there, like you said a lot of experts on telegram talk about their strategies that are one hundred percent guaranteed, they say these to convince gullible people. My strategy is simple, I always use head to head stats to make comparisons before coming up with my over 1.5 selection. This is the only option I pick, it doesn't work everytime but 60 percent of the time it's profitable.

I understand this feeling. Though it depends because for some people, doing research is fun in itself. They might enjoy watching sports and speculating and betting on it so it does not seem like "work" to them.
It can go either way. Betting too seriously might make you anxious and uncertain even if you have made your analysis because you are so desperate for proper profit. You just need to find the balance that works for yourself.

It's quite sad that the rate at which fake Telegram Sport betting experts emerges this days can never be totally erradicated, inasmuch as there exist a multitude of audience that hunger for these fake predictions that looks too good to be true, which is the exact strategy these fake Sport betting Telegram experts uses to make their fans believe it's legit, when most times they are literally a screenshot edit.  Hence, for me, the strategy usually use is avoid wasting time searching for value bets, as what I normally do before placing a bet on a game is to check their previous performance, the presence of its key players, if are they on injury or not and lastly the odds.

After all, why should you rely on other people's predictions or sports betting experts on Telegram,
when a group of scammers are trying to take your money by giving predictions that could be traps.

Now information can be accessed easily without anyone's help,
analyzing matches or looking at game data can be easily done and can be concluded who will win according to you and some of the influences.

If you want to save time, you can use the help of AI that can process data in real-time to determine which clubs or players are performing best.

I also often consider the head-to-head of the two competing teams and the performance of several previous matches to make bets. I don't really consider the latest news from the teams that will compete. At most, I check related to several players who cannot compete due to injury or card suspension.
One more thing, I only bet on leagues and teams that I follow. I will not bet on teams whose leagues I have never followed the news. I don't make many bets, but sometimes I'm not lucky enough when compiling several predictions in a parlay bet.

If you are carefully following such strategies would it be appropriate to say that you are gambling for fun? getting those matches through such tough analysis isn't easy and you are doing all that for entertainment, it doesn't really add up. Well, I guess everyone has their own preference of gambling. I use prediction tools and I'm okay with them since I'm not paying for them. I also do my own research before making my selections, I do all these when i plan to make profit but if I am just gambling got fun I don't bother with it

I know that top gamblers who call themselves professionals necessarily collect all the statistics on the upcoming match if their forecasts concern the market of upcoming games, and not bets in a live game. I once read a book by the famous analyst and forecaster Knight Silver, who developed a method for predicting the results of sports matches (in particular, baseball), analyzing in great detail the statistics of each player in a certain baseball league. Later, he transferred some of his developments to political forecasting. In general, it was a successful method and it was based on predicting the performance of players based on their age and some other features.

You seem to have a great betting mindset. I agree with your value-bet spotting approach. I've actually realized the disadvantage of advance betting a long time ago. In the days between placing the bet and the actual game, anything could happen.

I've made the mistake many times of making an advance bet only to find out later on that the team's superstar or any vital player won't be playing. I'm not a huge fan of the cash-out option, so I'd normally just leave my bet as it is.

But I'm still doing this until now, especially when I'm busy on other things. I'll just bet and forget about it, even the game. If one has a lot of time, closely following the latest developments is a huge advantage for spotting value bets.

Yes, I agree with you that you shouldn't trust experts who tell us which bet will bring us a huge win. It's all nonsense!

If these experts understood these issues, they would have been rich people themselves long ago and they would not have the need to give advice to other people. When I bet on sports, I trust my intuition.

I do not use any formal methods of analyzing information. Yes, I watch sports matches, read information on the Internet, listen to video podcasts of sports commentators on YouTube. At the same time, I understand that even with very detailed information, it is very difficult to make the right conclusions.

I like to meditate and it seems to me that it helps me in different areas of human activity, including gambling, and in particular, in sports betting. Although everything is determined by luck!

Everyone has different motives and ideology when it comes to Gambling, it seems you are the type of gambler that gambles for the thrill instead of gambling to make profit, this is actually a smart way to go about it. Gambling with what you can afford to lose wouldn't put you through the stress of trying to find a working strategy that can always put you in profit, it's proper to say that gamblers who do this are scared of losing and that's not really how gambling works.

You know when gambling when there is need it would be that easier for them to know what they are doing, for instance; gambling because they are bored and want to ease stress it will be that easier for them to lose the little amount use in staking the bet. One thing for sure is that we should be moderate in gambling without becoming too desperate of what they would get or even capitalizing a specific amount they would have to gain while gambling, of course we also know that we can't detects when winning comes so why over chasing loses after we have tried to gamble and no winning keeps coming?

Analyzing is not a guarantee that you might actually end up winning, even though it would increase your chances of winning. Having a strategy is important but it's not always about it, sometimes winning strategies end up falling apart, gambling is a game of winning and losing, don't rely too much on your analysis otherwise you would get results that you don't plan for. The most important thing is to gamble responsibly.

Tools will only make the settings good and calculations more accurate than what you can do manually although the results may not be the same as it still depends on the outcome of the game where if you choose the right team or not. Other people have their own ideas or what they want to do when they bet on bookmaker either they use tools or not, same strategy as yours or different strategies. In the end, it will always depends on your analysis and luck.

From what he said he never made any statement that analyzing will guarantee any win. Every gambler in this forum should know that by now unless thy are new to gambling probably the forum too. Analyzing may not give you a win, but it can direct your game to the part of win. Well, that works only on games that analysis works on. There are casino games where your analysis don't work at all. What you should have in mind is to expect a win by luck or perhaps your RTP to be above 50% of your bankroll in a case where you lost on the games played.