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EDIT: I created a flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3398) against Godex_io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1960024). For additional info, please follow along with the rest of the thread.

EDIT 2: I was refunded without sending any ID information. It took 4 months to get a refund, but fortunately I did. I have added a neutral tag, while maintaining my previous negative ones for history. I have also removed my support in my own flag.

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Hi all!

My story

I am all-in towards privacy and my exchanges always take place in various services and apps that are censorship resistant.

After eXch shut down, I needed to use another service to convert one of my UTXOs into XMR.

I decided to use Godex.io, in order to do my job, since it was supposed to be KYC-free.

As a result, my coins are locked there and they require me to send them:
a) a picture of me holding my ID card.
b) a picture of me holding a piece of paper that has the phrase "Godex" written upon it and the current date.

The "fun" part is that they don't refund me my money without giving them my personal information.

I am obviously not going to share my info with an unregulated exchange.

I am thinking about going legally against them, but they are based in the Seychelles, so it seems to me that I will most likely lose time and money to do it.

Nervermind...

Conclusion
1. Be careful who you trust. Even if the service is non-KYC, or is supposed to be a DEX, be careful. When you send your funds to a service in order to be exchanged, mixed or whatever, you lose (hopefully temporarily) the custody of the funds. Never forget this.

2. Prefer to use Bisq, or other services where custody remains under your control, or, at least it's not transferred entirely to a third party.

3. LoyceV said it perfectly here, and I support this:

There is something that is also flawed about noKYC or decentralized exchanges. Let us take for instance you are selling bitcoin but a buyer decide not to send the money because he is planning to scam you, the decentralized exchange will ask for statement of account which is enough to know about you. This can happen on any noKYC or decentralized exchange.

Their own website contradicts itself:


Let's send personal documents to a company hiding in the Seychelles! What can go wrong....

Are you going to tag Godex_io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1960024), and create a Flag against them? A nice warning banner above their topic would look good!
Judging by your post and their own website, those are lies.

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I'm not sure if you can use a type 3 Flag, I've posted this question in Trust flags (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.msg65331061#msg65331061).

The fun fact is that they said they never collect personal data as one of their advantages according to them but if you scroll down to the bottom they have AML/KYC policy if you read it they have Customer Identification Program or "CIP" meaning KYC is required.

Pretty bad you fall to "We never collect your personal data and delete information about orders after two weeks." Which is attracting.

This is one of eXch's competitors, along with The Change Ltd, but only eXch provides a better service and trusted; however, they will be close soon.


This will be a better option until the issue resolved.

What the fuck?

BRB, going to update BitMixList...

Soon all of us will have to learn that there cannot be a dex that operates on a public web domain.

Even if the trading process was automated normally, the owner of the “dex” can interfere with it whenever he wants.

It is either bisq or nothing. If bisq isn’t enough, then code something better. Or else, we are doomed.

I was planning something bigger, but I will most likely leave a tag. I am a responsible user though, so I want to do some research first.


Thanks for this, it's good to help people avoid having the same issue.


They do say it, indeed, but I am not even asking to use the service, I want a refund. Which is more "illegal"? Me not complying with their arbitrary KYC/AML policy, or them keeping my funds and not returning them? Some will say it's a great area, but for me it's disgusting behaviour on their part.

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I lost a good amount of money there (approx. ~0.0125 BTC). For many people it's not too much, but I have a family and I am worried about it. (I don't depend on it, I just mean I have -like most people- lots of expenses to cover).

Again, sorry for grumbling, I am the one who is responsible about what happened. I 've been teaching and talking to people about privacy & trust and I was got caught in this trap. Anyway...

I really appreciate your words guys.

Man, I can`t believe this money is gone.

They have a representative here (although inactive). We will all tag them, we will post about it in their ANN.
I don`t  believe they will enter this fight with the community because they want your picture.

This could have happened to me! I was considering using godex or some other.... (I already miss eXch so much!!)

I see you already put a tag on them, I will certainly add one and support any flag until this is solved.

I remember a similar case where I received a refund when I contacted the support team, but since they requested your information, I'm no longer recommending this service.

I hope you get your money back, but creating a flag is even more necessary than negative trust.

Thanks for sharing, and I am really sorry to read such bad issues.
There are many of fake-no-kyc exchanges and services. they have everywhere claims that they will not collect data and so on... unless you send coins there.
At this point, like an honeypot, they trying to ask as much as possible since they know very well that if an user need a service no-kyc has not yet planning to send even the size of underwear and so on.

There is a guy in the Italian section that has listed some of others fake no-kyc. Godex was the next test...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5534567.msg65234121#msg65234121

It appears that they considered your transaction as a potential source of money laundering schemes.

@apogio what are you doing? Don't get involved in this life of crime.  ::)


Unfortunately, since March 11, 2024, they have rules for requesting KYC:


In short, they have never been KYC-Free, and can always request this data from customers whenever they want.
Here is the link to the web file, as it may be useful in the future: https://web.archive.org/web/20250405210648/https://godex.io/aml-policy


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EDIT:
@apogio a lot or a little money, it's money. It's always very sad when someone is deceived. It's not your fault. I think most of us here on the forum don't notice these details that are on their own website.

I hope you can get that BTC back. Maybe they will see these posts and at least have the conscience to return that amount, minimizing the damage already done.

Godex.io advertises itself as a no-KYC, privacy-friendly swap platform, but in reality, since March 2024, they have an AML/KYC policy that allows them to request identity documents at their discretion, which can lock users’ funds unexpectedly.

This contradicts their public claims and, in my eyes, makes them suspicious.

I truly appreciate it. I will create a flag soon. And yes, I miss eXch too...

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I will create a flag soon. Well I tried to get a refund, I have literally sent many emails to their support email, but after requesting my identification and I denied using arguments from their website's FAQ, they haven't even responded...

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The problem arises when, like LoyceV said, these unregulated services (or regulated in the Seychelles :P) try to do KYC arbitrarily based on AML algorithms that nobody knows what they truly do.

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Haha, busted! I am a criminal! I can't believe we 've reached this point where bitcoin can't be used freely because of chain analysis.


There is no way on earth that I send my info to a shady company hiding in the Seychelles.
Since they have the authority to block my coins and keep them, I suppose going legally through a representative is a better option.
In fact, I am only thinking about the cost, but my heart tells me to try it...
As I said above, I am going to start with a flag here.

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I suspect they get paid from some entity, in order to do the KYC stuff and give our data to this entity. They must have their backs covered, keeping the funds locked until people submit KYC.

It's not only Godex, I 've seen many complains for ChangeNow and Changelly as well, but I can't confirm them myself from personal experience.

I believe the future is shady and doomed, where most non-kyc services will either shut down (like exch) or will become full-kyc. If they do become full-kyc, my only suggestion and hope is that people will prefer to use other well established kyc exchanges than these unregulated, shady entities.

I've scrolled this thread, but i didn't find screenshot of their demand and refusal. So IMO it would be great if you include screenshot and other relevant proof you're willing to share as part of the flag, since it would make more people support your flag and avoid this exchange.

Unfortunately, I suppose for many exchanges there's no contradiction at all. Godex isn't actually a special case. As a matter of fact, I used to ask an exchange here-- that also advertised itself as a KYC-free platform but actually includes AML/KYC in its terms and conditions-- if it's enough that they don't require KYC upon sign-up, even if they could ask for it anytime, to be calling themselves KYC-free. The representative said yes.

To me, and apparently to most of us, that's not what KYC-free means. But if you take a look at the exchanges promoted in this section, that's obviously what they mean by KYC-free or non-KYC. If you can swap or exchange funds without having to go through KYC even if a situation could arise anytime that you're asked to undergo it, it is a KYC-free or non-KYC platform. Nothing is contradictory. We're living in interesting times indeed.

The act of demanding documents before withdrawal is even worse than asking for it after sign-up in my opinion. Unreputable services that ask for your docs at the beginning might be trying to scam you.

Thank you for pointing that out. I tried to remove some data for privacy reasons, but since I already mentioned the amount I sent, I left this information uncovered.

Here is what I saw on their website and below is their answer on my email.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/05/01/U27PKD.png

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/05/01/U27THf.png

I have created a flag here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3398

I would like everyone who wants, to express their opinion on the matter. I 've created a type-2 flag, based on Theymos's suggestion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.msg65335816#msg65335816).

So they're saying 0.1255500 is not the same as 0.12555?

I've Supported your Flag and added my own tag:

I was so angry, that it was the least anger-causing statement from their part for me. But yeah, they actually said it. It's not edited or photoshopped  :P (0.012555 not 0.12555 thankfully)


I appreciate it, thanks!

Flag supported +

I hope you get your money back. Godex.io High-risk platform.

I have written negative feedback on their profile and supported your flag. They market themselves as being a no KYC exchange on all fronts and then they go and do something like this. It doesn't matter how much money it is. It's even more pathetic to confiscate a smaller sum and require that you jump through hoops to get it back. Even if they return your money, the negative feedback should stay or at best be changed to neutral feedback as a warning to stay away from an exchange that wrongly represents itself as being no KYC. I doubt they care because they haven't been on the forum since January.

how come this possible really, i was shocked reading this. im really sorry op - you are %100 right please dont stop and expose their scam exchange service.
I was considering using them to get xmr but i will not do that.

Thanks for the support.
I can't tell you what to do to get XMR, but you must always remember this:

May I suggest you add your Flag and Godex_io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1960024) to the OP?

And until today, some of their page still showing fake information.


https://talkimg.com/images/2025/05/02/U2gxBI.png
Image source: . Mirror link: [url=https://talkimg.com/image/U2gxBI]https://talkimg.com/image/U2gxBI (https://godex.io/how-it-works)

And while i may missed it, i unable to find where their company is registered.

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Flag supported, since some proof (2 screenshot) is provided.

LoyceV how did you manage to make this quote?
TryNinja's ninjastic.space website is down, I couldn't check the original post before the last edits.

I was just investigating the situation and came across this post, right after the OP was created:

^{At the time of this post, the cited post had never been edited.}


EDIT:
I kept investigating and found a quote by OP himself that highlights that it is "KYC free":
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4693949.msg55922658#msg55922658

In other words, they initially claimed to be KYC free, but then ended up applying this eventual KYC policy as they had initially planned.

Can we find out when was the last time they said they were KYC free?


EDIT 2:
As I continued my investigation, I discovered that the last post Godex_io made on the topic was in December 2020. At that time, it was supposedly KYC free. But in August 2024 he edited the OP. Probably removing the KYC free in the OP's information, but he never made any post about it, leading everyone to think that the service was still KYC free. When at least since March 11, 2024 the service was subject to a KYC policy, whenever they want.

In short, they were not honest with their customers, by implementing new policies and not making clear the changes made.

Godex stated in their website that they will do aml kyc stuff


I also supported the flag and left a feedback.

However,  theoretically,  apogio and any other customer could have read the terms... they are not a kyc free exchange.

But locking funds is absurd, so I will keep flag and feedbakcs

The normal way: I took snippets of their post. CTRL-F the text, you'll find all of it in their post.

It was last edited in 2024. In 2020, 2 years after it's creation, I scraped the post (https://loyce.club/archive/oldposts/423/423656xx.html#msg42365688), but the claims in the current post (and website!) are more relevant now.

They also stated (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5540023.msg65331038#msg65331038) that they "never collect your personal data", and that's on their front page.
We've all seen it before: hiding behind the Terms to demand data they said they wouldn't ask, just so they can freeze funds.

thanks i will, is issue sorted?

whats the last update

It's been approximately 6 days. I have received one email, that I posted above in a screenshot. I have sent 2 replies on this email and 5 kind reminders (not very kind). No answer from them at all. My money must be in their wallets by now. They must be drinking beers laughing at me. At least I won't let them look at me when they laugh (i.e. I won't give them my ID to see my face :P)

Have you checked a block explorer? I'm asking because it reminds me of this case (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482815.msg63605115#msg63605115), in which the exchange said they froze funds so they can be seized by authorities. But blockchain evidence showed they mixed it and sent it to another address.

Yes, I am checking every day :P Fortunately (or unfortunately), my coins are there, sitting in front of a nice balcony, watching the waves and the sharks, in the Seychelles, since 2025-04-29.

Sorry about the bad experience @apogio. Godex no longer appears in the kycnot.me list even. It probably got delisted a while back. I see a couple of transaltions about the service in other boards and since the OP's of the translations are highly trusted members with no trust flags on their profiles, I suggest they Edit the ANNs and maybe leave a warning about the service.

Newbies and guest users might still land on those ANNs and since they don't have any warnings, may end up being victims.

I will just try to mention them here @klarki and @Husna QA

Thanks. The newest update is that there is no update :P I am making fun out of it, because otherwise it sucks.

Yes, Godex doesn't appear on kycnot.me, but it used to appears on Bitlist (https://bitlist.co/exchanges) and I 'd like to kindly ask @icopress and @inspace to take a look at this thread.

I saw this thread a few days ago but only took a quick look and haven't had time to read it in detail yet.

So, a few days ago, I decided to temporarily lock the thread in Indonesian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5506853.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5506853.0)) and plan to provide information related to the case experienced by the OP in this thread so that the user can consider it.

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Update:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5506853.msg65355362#msg65355362 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5506853.msg65355362#msg65355362)

They should definitely remove the "kycfree" tag from Godex.io because the platform does not fully meet that claim and they are scammer.

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/07/26/UHd2Kw.png

Still falsely presenting itself as a no-KYC platform, which isn’t accurate.

Yeah, they 're still witholding my money illegally. I don't know what to do, I 've sent them too many emails, but no response yet. They 're giving false information to their customers, while also stealing their funds. They 're a disaster!

Move this topic to where it belongs: Scam Accusations. Or create a new topic there.
And post a big red SCAM WARNING in their thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4693949).
They're selective scammers hiding behind KYC while advertising to be anonymous. Nobody should use such sites.

Done: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4693949.msg65625408#msg65625408

Although I highly doubt they will ever refund me. They don't follow this forum anymore and they don't answer to my emails.

They 're thieves.

Really sorry, apogio. All we can do is keep posting updates here to warn others and help them avoid these scammers. They really are cheaters and what they're doing is wrong.

Serious trust concerns from Godex!

I voted for flag.

I think I am pretty active on the Scam accusation board, but I don't remember seeing this thread before. I thought they were a reputable service that could be used by people who love privacy. If exchanges like Godex turn 360 degrees at some point, what other services would people trust? They just ruined their reputation on this forum. I hope it spreads more.

Just noticed they have been inactive here since 2024. I think I have seen their signatures before. I think people from the Bitcointalk forum choose some specific services, seeing that they have promoted their service here, and they have an announcement thread. People think they can get it solved if they are on BitcoinTalk. Seems like nothing works if a service turn into a shit.

You haven't seen the thread in this board because I moved it from Service Discussion where it was originally at. Unfortunately, like you say, not many exchanges can be trusted nowadays, unless they are either (a) full regulated, or (b) simple P2P based, without legal form.

I was also considering using Godex after seeing his thread, and I was really surprised. What other services do people trust that truly require no KYC verification?

Ooh my friend, I'm so sorry about what happened to you. It's getting harder and harder to find a reliable crypto swap tool that respects user privacy.

You have my full solidarity and support!

Right now, think the only safer option for crypto exchanges without KYC is Bisq (last time, i only traded BTC, but it seems they now support alts too).

Edit: I also remembered Trêvoid's service, which is KYC-free and respects users' privacy.

It's sad for a platform to throw its entire reputation down the drain. Even if they fix this, it will be very difficult to regain trust.

There's no way to justify blocking your funds. If the platform claimed to be non-KYC, even advertised this in the first section of the website's homepage, and then changed the rules of the game, misappropriating users' funds is theft! There's no other kinder definition for it.

I appreciate your words.

In fact, I still blame myself and nobody else. I 've been quite vocal about not trusting third parties and I 've been very sceptical with multiple crypto-related issues, but I 've fallen into a trap I thought I 'd never fall.
The problem is that the amount of money is very important for me (for family-related reasons, I need this money).

But apart from the money, it's a very bad feeling, you know...

I’m deeply committed to privacy and only use censorship-resistant services for my exchanges. After eXch shut down, I turned to Godex.io, believing it was KYC-free. However, after sending my UTXO to convert into XMR, they locked my funds and demanded personal documents — a photo ID and a selfie holding a note with “Godex” and the current date. I refused. I won't give sensitive data to an unregulated offshore platform, especially one based in the Seychelles.

This experience is a hard reminder: even so-called non-KYC platforms can trap your funds. Once you hand over custody, you're at their mercy — and legal action is often futile. Instead, stick with decentralized platforms like Bisq where custody remains in your control.

When was the last time you had any contact with them?
Did they show any intention at all to resolve your case?

The worst option for exchange is an unregistered exchange that uses third-party liquidity funds, and the liquidity partners are some of the CEX with a very bad reputation.
We have to ignore such services.

I recently came to the conclusion that it's not possible to offer a good, trusted privacy service for a long time:
1. If they're full KYC and honest about it, they can exist but there is no privacy.
2. If they're completely anonymous and don't ask for anything, authorities will eventually shut them down.
3. If they themselves are anonymous but selectively freeze funds (and keep them for themselves), they're kinda untouchable as they won't get big enough to be shut down, governments won't go after them for scamming, and users have no way to get their money back.
All we can do is warn people about #3.

I think that, in the end , those are the kind of services that are making a great contribution to bitcoin fungibility.

This AML stuff is becoming problematic, and some coins are indeed becoming harder to expend in some services.

Reflective question:
With the rise of KYC enforcement and surveillance on Bitcoin, can it still be seen as a true tool for financial freedom — or does that title now belong more to privacy coins like Monero and decentralized tools like Bisq?

I would recommend using https://Splash.tf at this moment.

✅ They have an announcement thread here : splash.tf - instant exchange BTC / ETH / XMR / DAI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5549370.0)
✅ Their representative is active here on this forum and actively engaging with the community, plus hearing their feedback.
✅ They recently escrowed funds (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5549370.msg65620017#msg65620017) based on community suggestions.

What else do we need to start using a service? In case they try to run away with your funds, you can follow the method quoted below to get refunded.

Bisq IMO is just a decentralized exchange so it cannot really be compared to the other two.

If you want true privacy, buy some XMR. Otherwise, Bitcoin is still good for providing decent enough privacy in terms of not getting your coins frozen, when combined with mixers.


You should only use exchanges that are listed here (https://kycnot.me) or here (https://bitmixlist.org) (affiliate disclaimer).

This thread is now added to the secondary list of [INFO] Updated Summary of malpractices and abuses of exchanges (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5520005.0).

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Flag supported.

Thanks.

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There is no proper update on my case.
(1) The funds are still locked.
(2) No answer to any of my emails.
(3) No reaction to my flag and my scam accusation here on the forum.

It's like they don't exist anymore...

Have you tried sending them a completely different message, from a different email/browser/IP? Just ask something about their service as if you're considering using them. See if they respond.

You mean like a bait? No I haven't, I really wish they weren't so immoral and obscure to ignore my original message and answer to this one.

Yes. Just so you know if they're really abandoned, or just ignoring you.

I don't know which is worse, but I just tried it. I will let you know once I have some feedback.

This has been going on for more than 3 months and it's still not resolved?
It's really a shame. They're doing a terrible job.

Even if you wanted to do KYC now, you would be suspicious whether or not they would release the money.

Very sad!

Definitely and thanks for pointing that out. I wouldn't give them any info about me, because they hide in the Seychelles, they have shady information on their website and they don't have clear regulation. In my opinion, they will just let the dust settle, they will keep ignoring me and, at some point, they will steal the money sending it to their own (personal) addresses.

It's already in their own personal address. There's no need for them to move it again: they own it.

How to make apogio cry  :P Well I knew it but it sounds worse now that you said it

Sorry :(

This is the reason I barely use exchangers, and if I do, only with small amounts. I don't trust them, and they don't give me a reason to trust them. I can only guess, but it looks like they want to be in the third category:
By being #3, they avoid being #2 and governments won't shut them down. They still exist, but they're small enough not to become a target, and the occasional selective scamming makes it worth it for them.

Now the question is, if not using exchangers, what can you use?

Well, one could use a CEX (kraken, binance, coinbase etc). They fall into category #1 which gives them some credibility that if you deposit now, exchange 10 minutes later and withdraw 20 minutes later, it's unlikely they will shut down during these 20 minutes. And if you 're verified they won't cause you any trouble (most likely). And even if they do cause you trouble, I guess it's better to have issues with Kraken (being big american entity) than Godex (being somewhere in the pacific ocean) for example.

There is also the option of using Bisq, but again the receiving medium must be carefully chosen not to expose you.

** Obviously I am talking about legitimate usage, no illegal activities etc. I don't care about what criminals do, I am a legal taxpayer and I want the best experience.

Not much. But I don't need much either: I'm not into altcoins, and it's been years since I had to deal with a Forkcoin recovery for someone. Back then, I sent only small amounts of BSV at a time to some unknown exchanger, and waited for my withdrawal to be confirmed. It worked without any problems, but I wouldn't trust them with anything bigger than that.

For crypto <> bank, I prefer a CEX because I'd expect much more questions from my bank if I use P2P. They trust a registered CEX more than a random person in a random country, and I can't even blame them for that. And since it requires my bank account anyway, I'm okay with "#1".

I couldn't agree more :)

It's not like you have plenty of options anyway. Unless you do F2F transactions with cash which is very scary for me and I don't wanna take the risks. In fact, this method would make me even more worried because I would need to keep too much attention on my transactions in order to be legally ok. It's much easier with banks and CEXs (not gonna lie). The legal framework was (and still is to an extent) very difficult in my country. I had to try to find how to be legal although it looks like the laws are constructed in a way to put obstacles in your endeavour. I mean, I wanted to declare my income and my gains from investment activities and I thought that someone was just messing with me. There were no laws to protect me and help me do it legally. Luckily, now things are better.

Anyway, let's see if they will respond to my other email.

Suddenly, the unexpected happened. Today I got refunded after pressuring too much with my emails.

I am extremely happy today!!!

@LoyceV I am asking your experience now. What should I do with the scam accusation here and with the flag I have created?  Obviously I am asking everyone for opinions, but I trust Loyce a lot, that’s why I called him straight away.

So, being Legendary pays off already! Congrats!
Serious question: did you get your own funds back, or other funds from a different address?

Well, the Flag description is clear about it:
This is a binary, they did make you whole, so the Flag is invalid. Flags are supposed to be handled strictly, so I've withdrawn my Support. I suggest you do the same. Note that this doesn't mean I trust them, and I see no reason to Oppose this Flag.
I still consider them high risk though, so if you create a Newbie warning Flag (type 1), I'll Support it. I do believe users are at high risk of losing their money if they send it to this user/exchange.
I expect not all users will withdraw their Support from this Flag, and in similar cases the Flag remained active anyway.

Your feedback is still accurate, and I wouldn't remove it to keep the timeline:
This feedback makes it look as if they returned your money after you send them your ID. So you may want to add a neutral tag to update them returning your funds 4 months later.

My feedback is still accurate:

The other feedbacks still fit too. TL;DR my suggestion: Withdraw Flag, create Newbie Flag, keep feedback, add neutral tag explaining the current status. And never use them again :P

Haha thanks! Yeah it was my own funds from the address where they were locked in.


The way I see it, your suggestion makes sense. I will withdraw the flag, I will add a neutral tag and I will lock this thread in a day or so.

Is there a way to completely remove the flag? Or just remove my support?


Wait, aren't they trustworthy now? :P

Did they give any explanation for the delay in returning the item?
Did they at least respond to an email saying they would return it?

Or you simply woke up in the morning and saw that you had received your money back?

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Regarding the red flag, if you decide to remove it, please let me know so I can withdraw support.
I'll create a tag for the situation.  ;)


EDIT: After all, I had already left a tag. 4 months later, I didn't even remember anymore. :P

So, I 've been sending emails all this time and they suddenly responded to my last one, saying the can't process the exchange but the can issue a refund to the origin address.


I will withdraw the flag, I 've already withdrawn my support to my own flag  :P

I 've also left a neutral tag but haven't removed my negative tags to maintain history.

At least that's something. I've seen instant exchangers that instantly sent the "dangerous" deposit to another customer. At least in this case returning your own money supports their "but it's dirty and we can't touch it" story.

Flags can't be removed.

I'll add a neutral tag as well: despite returning OPs money (after 4 months), they're still lying on their website. It looks like this:
Be private.
That still conflicts with their Terms, that say they can demand whatever they want from you. I don't trust this site.

I agree with this opinion. Aside from it took 4 months, several false claim (that spotted by some members) still exist on their and i fear feel there'll another victim like OP. If OP decide to create flag type 1/newbie, i would support it and remove support to current flag.


Their claim about anonymous or no personal data that i found some time ago[1] also still exist.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5540023.msg65337026#msg65337026 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5540023.msg65337026#msg65337026)

So, I would like to summarize this thread:


A. Thank you all for your support, I really appreciate it and it's very hopeful to see the members of this forum being united and supportive.

B. Since I was refunded without sending personal documents, I am asking you to revisit the flag and consider changing your support. I 've already withdrawn my support as well.

C. Be cautious with random websites, exchangers, mixers etc. Your money is yours only if you own the keys. If you (even temporarily) send your coins to another entity, it's potentially their money from that moment and forever.

D. Read (C) again and again.


I don't know if I should lock the thread, but if nobody has anything of importance to say, I 'd like my summary to be the last post in this thread.

Thanks again!