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If someone has already accepted their gambling addiction and managed to stop gambling, it is synonymous with willpower.

But the paradox is that if you have the strength and conviction to stop gambling, anyone could come to the conclusion: "Why not just control it and that's it, without needing to quit gambling completely?".

Which brings us to this questions:

Is it harder to control gambling or limit it without falling into excess than to stop gambling forever?

Why is the effective strategy not moderation but absolute abstinence?

Depends on the gambler. If he's already in the process of stopping, there will be attempts that will stop that quitting. But when another experience adds up to the process and the gambler has lost more money again, that will power will come in for that gambler to quit entirely.

Distracting ourselves by doing other things. This is very effective so that we can avoid looking at the bookies and try to fill those betting slips.

Controlling gambling activities to stay above and away from all it negative impact, comes with alot of sacrifice and setting boundaries and goals all the time, making sure not to over step the boundaries and acting with all sense of accuracy with the lay down rules that guide and keep you away from failing into addiction. Know that gambling addictions is just a step away from gambling control, that is why is hard to see any active gambler that can survive staying above gambling addiction, it's hard but not impossible.

If you want to control gambling, you should also be able to stop gambling. If you still do not know how to stop gambling for a long time like a year or more, that means you can not control it and you are still addicted. The first thing you have to do to control gambling addiction is to stop gambling.

I was once addicted to gambling not in a very serious way, but I never really thought about quitting. That experience taught me a lot. It’s personal, and it made me realize that if I get careless again, I could end up regretting a major loss.

Gambling is called entertainment for a reason and that should be the goal when we do it.  Maybe if we’re no longer enjoying it, then that’s the moment we need to consider quitting.

As for me I still enjoy gambling, sometimes I lose control, but it hasn’t become a serious problem since I can still manage it. That’s why now, I set limits and I enjoy it within those boundaries.

Anyone who makes this comment has never been in the shoes of an addict. If the person has been, they'll know that once you are addicted to gambling or anything else controlling it is not a solution the safest and best solution is to completely quit it. You can only practice self control when you are not addicted to it. But once it becomes an addiction there is no other option than to quit it.

Mostly, if you want to stop gambling, you don’t have to make it abrupt. Just do it one step at a time, by putting some limits into gambling exposure, and diverting some of your time into other entertaining activities that could make you forget gambling temporarily.

Otherwise, your decision to stop gambling quickly may even lead you to wanting gambling more. I’ve heard a lot of stories that gamblers just want to leave gambling finally, but when they hit a big win, eventually their minds instantly changed and continue gambling even more.

That is the very why casinos do not opt for offering tools for gamblers to "regulate" their wager or restrict their deposits into their accounts, because if someone knows they are struggling with gambling problems the first step to take is getting time off online and out physical casinos completely, hence the existence of self-exclusion programs.
There are no greys in the issue of gambling problem in the eyes of casinos and in the eyes of law, either one is capable of gambling responsibly or one is not, it is a binary way to see the problem and even though it may not consider the personal willpower or psyche of each gambler, it is the right approach to take if one is dealing with millions of gamblers/bettors.

Stopping and getting back could be a bit backfiring for some people, although you may be stronge enough to come out from the brake with a strong determinations to keep a distance and approach game with skeptical mindset, so for sure we should accept that not everyone can do that, some after a long time of brake, when they make a return, the turn out to become worst than how the left previously,, for me, creating a limit to follow and staying low key gambling is ok to reduce my losses and stress that come from that that could push me into addictions.

Controlling something – the pattern in which you can do it – is all based on the individual. If you have tried one way and it's not working, try the other way.

If trying to control it can't help your addiction, then total abstaining from it will be the best advice. Since you can't control it, forgetting about that which you can't control is the only way because once you are in contact, you can lose focus.

And while they advise you to totally abstain from it, it is for the addicted gambler to watch his history and activities from afar and see what really was the problem, and if after a long absence they can now control it, the person can go back to gambling, but if they can't, then staying off gambling will still remain the best remedy.

I’ve tried many times to stop. I did, but if I’m not mistaken, it lasted just a little over a year before I gambled again. Then I stopped for a few months, only to start again. Since I can’t completely cut it off, what I do now is limit myself. If I can limit my deposits and set lower goals, I can also reduce the time I spend playing online. So far, I’m doing well because I can control myself now.

But I think the past few months were the worst. Even though I’ve lost more in the past compared to past few months, I feel like I’ve been more addicted lately, more emotionally invested, even with smaller losses. That’s when I realized this isn’t good. I was getting in too deep. So I pushed myself harder to regain control, and so far, it’s working, and it’s all been worth it.

There are still ways to control oneself in gambling or while gambling, addiction is a very bad issues that needs to tackle while gambling to avoid further damages and lose, mostly sees themselves as Pro in gambling forgetton that gambling doesn't work that. As a gambler it's good to allocate specific funds for gambling and it could be for a year or months and even days depending on your payment structure.
This all these are introduced it would help you gamble responsibly and you should be having target and period to gamble as well.

For me specially I would assume such approaching to be misleading.
Two things are sighted in this scenario which is either such person (s) asking you not to stop but only control yourself and you will be good has not experienced gambling addiction before or does not understand the behavioral influence because if he/she does, would even appreciate that your decision of quitting entirely because controlling yourself as long you are on the table can be tempting once that habit of unconscious is in you.

Second could mean that such person (s) does not think good of you and not happy that you are out of the game after being addicted. So they just want to see your life and your bankrolls ruined over gambling.

Most people that experience an addiction to something will try to distance themselves completely from the activity so as they do not fall back into the same habits. They know that 1 bet might drag them back into the life and they wanted out of that life for a reason. So IMO there is no controlling it if they get that far gone, best to just avoid and find other ways to use your time.

Both are hard because stop gambling forever means you will never touch gambling anymore. While control gambling or limit it means you need to control yourself from the wanting to playing gambling like before.

It need more power to control yourself and avoid the temptation from gambling. That will not for many people who can do that because many of them are fall to gambling again.

If you really want to control gambling or limit it, you must really serious with that. That is for your own good and not for others so you need to aware of the temptation and others. Gambling can make you back but with control over yourself, you will not playing gambling too often.

Yeah, surely you don't stop gambling by accident or lack of funds, it's all a testimony of your determination.


At the point that addiction has become the case, you need to take some time off to let off some steam, you can return later and practice controlling it, but at least momentarily, you need to quit.


If you have started off practicing some level of control, then you can continue amending your control strategies to ensure you end up gambling very responsibly with a reduced possibility of addiction, but if you are already addicted, chances of achieving an effective control strategy with an already messy state is slim, that is why you need some time off, not necessarily forever, few years off the casino is enough to heal and on returning, you can set principles which you would follow strictly to prevent a repeat of the former.


Some time off is always good, especially when things are getting out of hand. Most gamblers who claim to be gone forever always returns after a few years. I am one of them.

I think it's much harder to control gambling than to stop it completely.
Because when you try to control it, you're still close to the danger, and it's easy to fall back.

But if you quit fully, you build a wall between you and the problem. That's why for many people, quitting all the way is the safest and strongest choice.

Because it is obviously easier to avoid temptation if you completely avoid that which is tempting. If you keep on staying in front of that which is tempting, it must be much more challenging to keep yourself from being tempted. It might just be a matter of time before you will give in to the urge.

This is definitely the same with gambling. If you avoid it altogether, it is easier to stay away from becoming addicted. If you keep on gambling, it is more likely that you will give in to betting beyond the limit that you set.

To control gambling or to have self-control with gambling is pretty easy, but the difficulty increases when you've won big and all of a sudden you don't have anything left. This is where the mind gives hope of winning and the pain of losing. Both are contradictory, but you need the balance sheet to be neutral. This won't happen, and we run to make it happen. This is where the addiction turns stronger. The first day we try with $100 and we win, and the second day the mind thinks, Why don't we go with $200? And here also it wins. When the practice continues and some day you lose a small part, your mind won't accept it. By the time we just go for the small loss, we wager to recover those losses and end up losing. Later this becomes a daily routine, and at some point the reality will be understood. This is when one could've experienced a big loss. Some end up never gambling, and some find themselves good with the financial part and give a restart.

It is easier to completely give up gambling. This is the only way for drug addiction, alcoholism, or smoking. However, gambling is very different from these addictions in that it is amenable to volitional control (because the brain is not clouded by chemicals and there is no physical dependence). Therefore, you can continue to gamble, although it will be difficult because it will require constant monitoring. This will require strong-willed self-restraint, for example, when you want to violate your own bankroll management rules.

To “control” is to stay in the ring with the compulsion and trust you will not get knocked out. However, the brain (particularly the one that is wired to take risks) is not designed to negotiate in such a way. One would say that abstinence is effective because it eliminates the game board. No bet to lose. No maybe next time.

Consider it as a software bug. Moderation requires that you operate two conflicting programs simultaneously: the desire and the restraint. That split is exhausting. Endlessly running scripts, draining RAM. Abstinence, meanwhile, is a forced shutdown: no process, no conflict, no lag.

Things grow stranger. The person who’s quit is always suspected of secret weakness (“You had to stop? Cannot handle a little fun?”). That is projection. Quitting is the easy part. It is realizing that for some people, the line between "one more try" and "I lost everything" is not clear until later. Control is to those who never looked into the abyss.

Humans are creatures of habit, they seek out and find comfort in routine. Those habits will have trigger points, like a smoker who will light up after food or a gambler who might pop into the bookies on the way home from work. When you break that routine, which you may have done for years, then you will have a subconscious pull to do them again as it provides that soothing regularity that the mind craves. It's great when some people have the willpower to break free, but it can also take many attempts and is not as easy as it seems. Some people may also be more predisposed to addiction than others, which makes it harder for them to break free.

That's not a paradox!
The paradox is that if they had the willpower to stop gambling, why did they actually start gambling as an addict in the first place?
It's not a paradox, as that would mean everyone that has stopped smoking, drinking, or eating junk food is experiencing a paradox, obviously not the case.

I said it a lot of times, people should stop treating gambling so philosophically. I mean, I know it's the end of the football season and quotas have to be done in some other topics, but apply a bit of moderation!

No, you can't stop completely. Well, this is how it works for me personally. Naturally, I stopped spending the money that I can't afford to lose. At this stage, everything is balanced. That's how it seems to me. How does it look from the outside? I don't know. Now I rarely even increase the bet. I understand that this will clearly not lead to anything good and the pleasure of the game will become much shorter in time. So I had to find a compromise. This is important to me.

Surely it is harder to stop gambling forever than to control it without falling into excess. Meaning it is even easier to control gambling an never get addicted and gradually stop forever, than wanting to stop forever at once which will be more difficult to achieve. Stopping gambling forever usually takes time, you will definitely be reducing the passion gradually until you stop it for good. That is why it is harder to stop gambling forever.

Yes, it's harder to control gambling or limit it than stopping it completely. For me it's simple, if you stop it completely it's more like you're a sober person but if you expose yourself to alcohol even in small portion, eventually you'll end up addicted to alcohol again. Stopping gambling is really hard but once you stop it, then you're free but if you just control it or even set limit, there will always a day that you want more and more then you'll lose it.

Though this is only my personal insight about this and not all people are the same, there are some people where limiting gambling works for them and some people stopping completely or overcoming gambling is they only key.

In my opinion, in both situations it is difficult for people who are addicted to gambling, when a person does not have a gambling addiction, he can easily stop gambling for some time and also easily stop gambling for good.


because when people are addicted to gambling, they can only be cured when they stop gambling, for cases of people who do not have gambling problems or are not addicted to gambling, they can stop gambling for some time and come back whenever they want, it will not affect them negatively

That is true, it's more on will power and self control.


That is wrong mindset though, the conclusion is that we should stop gambling  completely, specially if it has negative effect on you and your life. Like it's destroying the very essence of your existence.

And most likely this is the reason why they are gambling addicts who recover and then relapses because they think that they don't need to quit for good but control it. But as I have said, if there is a way to really stop for good then we should do it and not have this kind of thinking.

I do not like extremes and I believe they are harmful in any form or situation, including gambling. A person who strictly limits themselves in something puts a lot of pressure on their potential, and this is much worse than moderate hobbies. I agree with what you are saying, that in gambling it is better to control yourself during the game rather than completely cut yourself off from it. In this case you will understand that you are capable of controlling it. But if you completely refuse and restrain yourself, first of all there is always a chance you might break down and start playing again, and secondly these restrictions show that you cannot do what you want, how you want and when you want.

I used to be a problematic high roller, and every attempt to quit completely would work for a few weeks, until I started playing small stakes for fun again. Eventually, those small sessions always led me back to being a problematic high roller

Personally, I recommend quitting gambling entirely and avoiding it altogether. This works best for me because once I start playing, I find it hard to control myself. So, it's better not to start at all.

One of the bitter truth is that it is actually harder to keep gamble a little than not gambling at all especially for someone that is already addicted.

Stopping gambling completely is like closing the door shut. It is clean, and simple: no gambling, ever again. But when you are trying to control gambling? It is just like leaving the door half way open and constantly fighting the urge to walk towards it. Every bet make the brain’s reward system arose more cravings, making it just a bit impossible over time. It is not all about will or power, it is about how the brain dopamine works.

Addiction is not a habit you manage; it is a system that take over your control. That is  why it is always advisable to abstinen completely so that it can ends the cycle, and gives you real freedom. Moderating it only keeps you in the fight while Abstinence sets totally you free.

I was mad with gambling when I was still new, we are humans and we tend to handle things differently, I got mad at a time and I quit, then I sat down and said to myself, where did I go wrong?

I risked a lot that I can't afford to lose, my first mistake, this was even the reason why I was in the position in the first place.

It's fine to quit gambling at first, maybe for a while, weeks or even months is fine and when your mind is healed you can come back with a better strategy, this time avoid feeling the same pain you first felt..

It all started with the Money you plan to risk, this is where the pain comes from, fix that and you will enjoy your time spent on gambling.

IMHO, it's more difficult to totally quit gambling. That means you will never gamble on anything, and even on sports, which for me is not a good thing. Sports betting adds a flavor while I watch the game, so I don't want it gone. Plus, I don't really bet that much, so it won't be a problem financially for me.

Although stopping the addiction to slots and casino games can be the best decision of our gambling life. As for me, I controlled it. I planned an amount that I will use in slots, and whatever happens, I will walk away if all the planned amount to gamble is gone. I think it's best if we can control it instead of quitting, because there's a chance that we are just fooling ourselves if we are quitting, and yet we cannot do it fully.

Because they completely quit gambling in order to met social standard.

Social standard expect you're not a gambler because they think gamblers are not responsible people and like to wasting their money. Those people are HR, boss, family, and spouse. I've seen HR intentionally reject applications if they're a gambler.

If people see gambler and non gambler are the same, I think many people will stay become a responsible gambler instead of quit it completely.

As I already said in some posts some time ago, my strategy works, I am not a regular player and I play very little in economic terms.
When I lose that little I dedicate myself to something else, something that distracts me from the disappointment, because it is not so much how much you lose but the fact of losing that depresses you.
Taking control of your mind is a symptom of great willpower.

Just control ourselves would be the key here. And there is also this outside influence. If we live on a environment that it seems that gambling is a norm, then quitting is going to be very difficult. Unless you really put your heart in quitting your vices.

For me, it's better if we will just quit for good. If you haven't started gambling then don't do it as it will ruined your lives. We have heard countless stories of people of every race and color that was really Rekt when they gamble and thought that it was just for fun. Until they become addicted.

Whether a former addict should quit gambling for good or learn how to gamble responsibly and continue depends on individuals. It comes down to discipline or self control, if a former addict that feels that he cannot control his gambling habit it is better to quit and move on, avoid coming near anything that has to do with gambling. On the other hand if a former addict can learn to control himself, have a budget for gambling and never chase loses again he can continue to gamble. I've heard gamblers who said that they were former addicts so it's possible for a rehabilitated gambler to continue gambling but it's not easy.

If we're guided by the idea that a paradox is something that defies logic and intuition.

This is perfectly a paradox, since if someone can stop gambling, it can be intuited that you could maintain control of your gambling.

The paradox comes in when it's harder to maintain control of your gambling when you're an addict than to quit completely. Although many can quit, few, after becoming addicted, could moderate or correct their gambling habits without having completely distanced themselves from it first.

As for criticism, philosophizing has always been a useful tool in life as it encourages self-criticism, idea-building, and decision-making. And I think it's useful here, since it's a gambling area where there could be potential addicts. I think encouraging these topics is better for those people.

Now, putting it humorously, you posted about the arrival of Jesus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5546856). Let us philosophize.

Also, in my case, I have never needed to fill campaign quotas, in fact, I could almost always fill the quota twice.

Because not all of us have a strong will that will make us moderate our gambling activity so the best option is abstinence and replacing our urges to gamble with other activities.
Moderation takes time to learn, and there are many hurdles to reach that level of control. I know a friend who developed control in gambling after losing a huge amount of money. It's a harrowing experience that he keeps remembering every time he is on a gambling platform, so he takes the best precautionary action.

Is it easier for you to climb to the top of a sequoia, bench press 300kg, or run a marathon?

Everyone likes something and is good at something, but not everyone is capable of everything... and some simply don't want to do certain things. Those who are fitter and stronger like to push the limits, and there are others who simply enjoy what they do without having to prove themselves to others.

You don't need the answers to these questions, nor the strategies you suggested... no one needs them. Don't overthink. Everyone needs to know themselves and listen to their body & mind (not necessarily in that order) and do what is best for them. There will be a lot of mistakes, but that's how it should be. That's how we learn from a young age: "To learn to run, you have to fall many times."

It’s stopping gambling is almost impossible for me to do because I’m active on gambling topic discussion. A simple reading of post and opinion here makes me interested to gamble when I’m on abstinence mode.

I stop being hypocrites and just let my gambling activity in control rather than fight over it while there’s a lot of gambling topic that will tempted me to play.

So far I have a good control now compared when I’m still new on gambling.

Actually if we are being honest statistically a person will only be referred to as a gambling addict if his losing far more than his winning and dedicating more time to gambling than necessary and in the end nothing positive is coming out of it. And in a case of addiction the best way for a gambling addict to fix his problems is to stay away from gambling. He couldn't control his gambling habits and frequency in the first place and that necessary made him and addict so where would he all of the sudden be able to control it?
On a practical basis aside from discipline loved ones really have a huge role to play in helping a person out of gambling addiction.

I am a gambler who sets limits on my gambling. But to be honest, sometimes I still go beyond those limits. It must be admitted that it is difficult to continue to be consistent with self-imposed restrictions, because sometimes thinking about betting more is okay. What is worse is perhaps that those who have been addicted must really control their gambling activities so as not to get out of control. Those who finally decide to stop will be better off. All to avoid the possibility of getting caught up in addiction again in the future.

Well, it's like telling a cake lover to take not more than one bit every  hour but it often doesn't work because it reactivates the same cravings once they have that first taste. So absolute abstinence is what is needed if they are too addicted.


Controlling gambling addiction is easy when you did not give into it at the very beginning, meaning you are not addicted yet, but when you are addicted already it becomes difficult, I wont lie. And stopping it forever becomes even more difficult.

We can minimize our gambling habit with the help of other people. Doing it alone is impossible, but doing it with someone who could also understand our addiction is effective. Like in other forms of addiction, stopping it is quite a big challenge. If we have the decision to completely stop gambling, then we must not engage with people who are gamblers. Even if it was your family members, relatives, and friends. Staying out of contact with them could certainly help our goal. We don't need to rush. A gradual adjustment is enough.

There is no paradox here. This is a medical situation of someone who is sick. One problem with addicts in recovery is that they have the trouble of accepting that they have ruined this activity for themselves for the rest of their life.It is the same for drinking, doing drugs, gambling and other addictions. Once you get addicted, if you want to quit you must quit for the rest of your life. You can never leisurely enjoy it again. It is your fault for putting yourself into this position, and now you must accept the consequences of your actions.

An ex-addict can never control himself with his previous addiction.

I know about some gamblers in which their final words remain the verdict, they cant change anything regarding it anymore, once they have concluded on something, then that's the final of it all, while some could be the type that if reconsidered, they may change on what they have already said and go against such, things like this happens, because we cant not all be thinking the same way, whereas the condition for each everyone of us in taking a decision varies.

This is why it is also more important that we weigh on the consequences of doing something before taking decision of doing them, so that we don't regret some of our steps in life, gambling is not what cause addiction, and if we forcefully stops it because of addiction, we may end up in depression, solving one problem to create another one.

I have also been in a phase of gambling addiction like you, and the same thing happened, I never thought about really stopping, maybe I needed a temporary break, but it doesn't mean it is forever, and now I am still a gambler. I also feel that it is natural for humans to have felt an irresponsible phase when gambling, so that it becomes a big lesson for him, even it can also be used for experiences outside of gambling.

Every gambler needs is the need for awareness for self-control, and I think bitter experiences are the best, so that gamblers can really learn from their mistakes, start to be able to control themselves, and eventually become responsible gamblers.

Well Im not into the shoes yet of those already been considered as addicted to gambling, but Ive got a friend who says its like his daily pill or routinely activity. I asked him, why you cant stop, you are a professional who working in a medical institute. Your profession served you to be discipline but this kind you cant stop. He doesnt have answer but his will to play or gamble is stronger than that. So Id say its not really easy for them.

Is control even possible when you are already addicted? I do not consider any gambler who has the ability to control his gambling habits as addicted. Addiction means lack of total control, so anyone who thinks he can moderate himself at that point is just joking.

What a gambler who is addicted needs is a break from anything related to gambling, at least for a while, until he is convinced that he can actually stay away from gambling or coordinate himself better without that urge to exceed his limits.

Addiction is a serious matter that should be handled with full dedication and commitment. Except the gambler is not serious about ending his addiction, then he can keep doing the same things that led to the addiction in the first place.

We do know that not all people who do play gambling are considered to be gambling addicts on which there are still who are that playing gambling but not an addicted person. There are those who do play gambling for the sake of fun and there are those who do play just because they've been that hoping that they can make money with gambling. One of the most common issues on here is on the the time or moment that people do gamble is that they do wish for that they do need up to make it profitable on which this is that very wrong. Usually people do only stop at the time that they are already experiencing some issues like having some spending up with those life savings or emergency money on which this is the only time that they do consider out on stopping.

Its true that stopping just because you had seen yourself put up into that condition but actually you can be able to lessen it up once you do see that you have go past with your limits. If you do like to gambling then always have that control and moderation on doing it.

Not for everyone. Not all people are subject to gambling addiction; why should a person who is not concerned with such a problem stop playing if he needs to at some time? This applies to any activity that we like. If alcohol does not cause problems, there is no need to forbid yourself from it. If games are part of some entertainment, on par with visiting a restaurant or bar, and are not regular, there are no problems. Human psychology is built on attachments, but a sense of proportion is always in everything necessary; if it is not there, then you can get a bad addiction even to food. Hence the question: is it worth stopping eating if you do not know how to cope with your passions?

My understanding of the paradoxical factor of stopping gambling many things to consider as referred to feelings of being trapped in a vicious circle, bankruptcy, financial losses and included in the awareness of the losses they suffer from as long as they are addicted to gambling, there are many other reasons felt by depression gambling addicts, Anxiety as well as other things that can interfere with psychological addicts themselves are why stop wiser rather than controlling or controlling themselves and continuing to gamble.

In my assessment, it is not an easy matter for gambling addicts to control or control myself in gambling, stopping completely more efficient to overcome financial losses.

Because they already fell to addiction once. They are making a lifestyle change because they couldn't and didn't want to change it back then but now they are determined but the problem is they have already fallen to addiction so it is harder to control themselves now.
If you have not fallen for an addiction yet then you can probably just keep gambling in moderation. But addicts have to withdraw completely or else they might just fall back again. They need to recover

Alleged paradoxes are often based on oversimplifications.


It has to do with how neural pathways work. Someone who has a problem with gambling, drugs or sex has developed compulsive behavior that can only be gotten rid of with total abstinence. This is true in 99% of cases or more. Trying to “control” leads sooner rather than later to the old self-destructive pattern of binge drugging or gambling.

It's a matter of choice, people make decisions when it comes to gambling based on their experience. There are people that decided to control it and gamble occasionally and people that also decided to stop totally, both categories of gamblers might have different reasons as to why they are taking that step. It's harder to stop gambling than controlling it, but both requires a lot of discipline and will power

Yes, it is harder to control gambling than to limit it. Some gamblers go to the extent of putting their life savings or taking a loan just so they can continue to gamble.
If all people can control their urges to gamble, then there will be no gambling addiction, and we will all be safe.
The best option has always been to control our gambling urge, but unfortunately, we do not have that luxury, so we opted for absolute abstinence.

Depends on your will --- because to control yourself or limit gambling starts from your will but sometimes this is often violated by many people, right? Because you can't stand the urge to gamble, so it usually depends on where you start to be more disciplined by being able to control it, you can limit gambling without stopping completely.

Actually, you have to be able to control your view to others --- if your thoughts continue to gamble, it is difficult to stop, at least there are other activities that make you forget about gambling all day.

it will depend a lot on the kind of gambler that you are and how exposed you are to gambling. if you have not gambled really hard to a point where it becomes a serious issue, then, limiting the frequency of your gambling can be a good thing to do but if you have had it all and wants some sort of cleansing, the stopping it even though it is just temporary is the best thing to do. one thing about gambling in a manner that does not get you addicted is that what works for MR A might not work for MR B.

Those that are already involved in gambling knows that opting for moderation is the most realistic solution to gambling addiction but those outside that don't know how gambling addiction really his ae the ones that assume that completely abstaining from gambling addiction is all to easy. even at the point when you are just getting started, setting proper budget, doing proper planning and gambling in a moderate way is the best gambling practice.

Consequences are attached to every addicted gambler trying to heal, the best way is to stop gambling for the main time, most people who were addicted and provided enough will power to quit gambling might one day return to gamble ,but now they already have what it takes to subdue addiction.

Healing from addiction takes a lot of time, there needs to be return of finances, mental strength sometimes building back relationships that have been spoiled while addicted. Only limiting the way you gamble is like adding more salt to the injury after a good treat that should heal quicker.

I don't think there is any addiction that one could face in life without them being advice to stop it for the mean time, before thinking of what next to do. Being addicted to something is when you have lose your willpower of controlling your urge for it.  You can't just have your willpower of control to that when you are still a partaker of that same thing you are addicted to. There will be urge or push for continuation of it, which makes it worse.

That kinda occurrence is applicable to gambling addiction. Quitting is advice so that you can get your willpower of control before continuing gambling, if there will be need for gambling again.

It's their choice if their finances and loved ones are hurt by his gambling activities; then stopping is the right thing to do..You may have the conviction to stop gambling, but you will be tempted to spend more than what you can afford if you try to control and impose limitations, even those who say they can control their gambling activity and spending admit that they sometimes get tempted and lose their control.
So if stopping is their choice, then we just let them be, we all have a way to face our inner demons, so we have to respect others' ways.

The answer is when a gambler successfully stops gambling completely in my opinion it means that he has been able to control himself, if you are a gambler then you must have felt how it feels to restrain yourself from gambling in order to achieve something you hope for such as to stop completely, I have been in that position several times.

So in my opinion a gambler who successfully stops simply has succeeded in controlling himself, when a gambler has succeeded in controlling himself by implementing various plans that lead to risk management then there are two choices, namely between him continuing his involvement in gambling with a safer approach or stopping completely.

Sometimes for gambling addicts to really want to quit gambling requires excessive ways to recover from addiction and one of the best ways is simply to avoid gambling. It may seem easier to control yourself but for gambling addicts it is very difficult because they will just keep gambling and keep losing control. Gambling addicts are always close to poor self control and if an addict does not avoid gambling forever, it will not cure his addiction but will just continue the addiction to gambling.

Once addiction has run into the immune, taking self control without realizing the predicament of what you are going through can not still be adjusted if you still keep on playing.
So the best move is to take some breaks, be very much emotional of your past, feel regreted over every irresponsible and greedy habits of you.

Examine your craving for gambling again and if it is accompanied with exciting emotions again, that means you will still be same addiction when you get back to the table but if you feel you just have to gamble as an activity of temporary fund which would not worth spending your precious time and hard earned money, then you are good to go and then you can take control of the emotions after going back partaking on the event aftermath.

You know it's hard to control something that one is addicted to in most cases bit sometimes you can quit trying to control that particular thing sometimes you tend to quit bit you can't control the habits cause you're stucked to it. So it's much harder to control gambling addictions than quitting. And the effective strategy can't be moderation for some person's because they loose control regarding gambling so then total abstinence is the remedy to it.

So the question I will be throwing out there for everyone is , when it comes to gambling addiction ..how do we differentiate a gambler that gambles regularly or occasionally from that person that is said to have a gambling addiction ??? Because this paradox of the addicted gambler just opened the Pandora's box 🎁


Is that supposed to be excess losses ???

Anyway, gambling addiction isn't an easy topic altogether...that's is why someone that gets hooked finds it difficult to stop by themselves unless external help comes in...

That's true, addiction is something that's quit difficult to control, it can be prevented if gamblers do it responsibly but once a gamble has become addicted it would take a gradual process before such person would recover from it, well one of the best remedy I know of is therapy, a regular visit to a therapist and good advise could gradually change the mindset of the addicted gambler.

 According to mcdouglasx, it not really easy to abstain totally from gambling once you're addicted, trying to force an addicted gambler out of it could even make it worst, it would require a gradually process before they could minimize the habit or quit entirely.

In the beginning, I also thought that if I control it, then what is the need to completely give up? But the reality is different, at first it starts little by little and then I drown again. It is very difficult to control one's own limits. Because greed and lust mix together.

It is very difficult to completely let go, but once you have settled down, it is peace. But hanging in the middle is dangerous and you can go back to gambling again. So I think it is better to let go completely without controlling it.

It's easy for a gambler to control their gambling habits, become a responsible gambler and manage their risk properly. If a gambler have already learned how to control and manage their gambling habits, it will not be difficult to practice it constantly and they will not also find it difficult quitting gambling when they want to. What's very difficult is fighting addiction. It becomes easy for you to get addicted when you let yourself in but so had to come off it.

Such things as abstainance and moderation works differently for different people depending on what their level of addiction to gambling is, those who are not addicted to gambling can actually practise moderation in their gambling activity and they will do well at it, they will be super successful in it.

But on the other hand, those who are already addicted to gambling and wants to heal or gain freedom from the addiction are adviced to abstain completely from gambling because this could act as a trigger, gambling in moderation won't work for this type of persons because of obvious reasons, so the best only and best option is for them to abstain.

Abstinence is necessary in some situations because if it's not stopped it might end up ruining the person...while in some cases all the gambler needs to do is put himself under control... it's easier to control gambling addiction than stopping it for good but whichever one it might be you must put in a lot of conscious efforts to do any of these... Addiction isn't an easy thing to stop or control but with constant discipline it can be achieved

These things actually depend on the situation of the gambler's addiction. If his addiction goes to an extreme level, then he should stay away from gambling.

Because I think that many times for an addicted gambler, gambling again after going on a break is like putting a lighter in a gallon of gasoline. And in these cases, it is best for addicted gamblers to take a break from gambling. However, I think that from the beginning we should keep the amount of gambling to what we can afford to lose and only take entertainment from it.

Once you are into gambling, it is difficult to control how you gamble at times because you will continuously fall to things you wanted to control such as addiction, once a gambler have become so addicted to gambling the only remedy is quitting and not to control it because it is mostly difficult. There is a process in gambling whereby you will find yourself in a situation where you cannot do without gambling and as you continue that is how you keep getting screwed up and unable to avoid which means quitting will be the only option in that situation, even if you will continue gambling again, it will be after you have healed from your previous gambling experiences which will take a long time.

It's easier to stop gambling altogether in comparision to limit it as in limiting it's kind of like playing with fire — there is chance for you to get burned because well you are playing with fire while with abstinence you don't play with fire in first place, no chance for you to get burned either.

When something has become an addiction, it means that it has become harmful to the person involved and to others around them. It means that the person has already lost control, and they have already failed at it. In this type of situation, the solution is to stop, there is no other way. When something is making us feel bad, there is no way to do it in moderation; it is better not to do it anymore.

Something that you’re addicted to can be very hard to stop, this is because it has already taken some parts of your brain precisely and make you feel like you can do without it, and your body must have have to obey on what the brain feels safe doing. It is very hard to control or limit gambling because when you decide to do that, you may end up getting more addictive if you’re not the type that can follow the routine of leaving gambling forever gradually without being forced to overstep the boundaries you’ve set for it after deciding to limit it.


Abstinence is better because when you don’t even have a sense of it initially, it would make you not even think about it totally unlike moderation which you’re still having access to them from time to time. It is full of emotions and those emotions can make you take actions you’re not suppose to take when you can’t control some big loss, or a potential win when you’ve already exhausted your payroll for the week or month due to limits you’ve set on them to limit the amount to spend and the games you play more frequently.

It is like a gambling addict going to rehab. It means, you should really do a total stop of the activity where you are having problem with. Because if not, I don't think you can contain yourself. The reason why you got addicted is because you have no more control of this vice.
This will be a big decision per se as it can be a 360-degree change of your lifestyle. Weigh your options and see the pros and cons. Maybe, you can easily decide if you are getting the big picture of your change. And if an addict can't see it because he is too occupied of what he is feeling at the moment, someone should intervene, who is likely, his close family member. Because the family himself is the one directly seeing what's happening in his life. And so they have the say-so on what he needs to do with his life and alter his lifestyle for the betterment of himself. If no one will help him, I would say, it would be too difficult for him to get up and change the route of his life.

op means control the addiction but still gamble

maybe gamblers can go back to gambling again (responsibly) if they can prove that they can in fact control themselves when it comes to gambling and that they have recovered the addiction then they can gamble for small amount of time

It depends on the individual obviously. Not everyone have necessary tools to moderate their behavior, and since we are talking about gambling addicts, it's kind of self-medicating.

They just need their fix and don't have working mechanism that would allow to use will power efficiently. So they need to learn that, and that happens with hard work. It's not like a lightbulb where they decide not to gamble, but they need to rebuild themselves if they ever want healthy relationship with gambling. Because only other way is quitting completely, so that's the easiest option and most popular.

If they are depressed, their brains are in kind of self rewarding self destructive loop. And trying to maintain control and moderation could be just excuse just to gamble. Not because they want to heal, but because they want to believe they can heal, so that they can gamble.

There are studies written on brain chemistry of addicts and psychology of gambling addiction. I would recommend finding some of them. And if those are hard, i am certain that there are some self help psychology books about that subject too.

Addiction level may differ to person to person, once you get addicted fully, there will be no turning back, unless you fully stop with the help of others, recreate, do other things in substitute for what you are used to. It's a mental health that cannot be just "its okay, you will get better once you stop" for some reason,  it needs more than stop and full detox what you are used to until you completely forget gambling. Those people who early stopped are those who have full control of their selves and not so addictive yet. Those problematic ones who lend, do it almos every hour, get suoer angry when lost, etc. are the ones need it to stop

If gambling is a source of money for you, then in any case, after a certain time, you will become addicted to gambling. Thus, you can avoid gambling addiction only if you will perceive the casino not as a source of income, but as one of the forms of entertainment.

If a gambler can control it, he will never get addiction, dude. Addicted to gambling means a gambler has lack ability to control his emotion or his desire. He may also have no limitation in gambling, so he gambles in an excessive way. If he never succeeds to control it, the best way is to stop it temporarily or forever. We can't blame them who decide to stop, they may assume they are unable to solve it if they keep gambling. Everyone has a different ability in controlling themselves, so we can generalize it. To avoid this problem, make sure to have good self-control if you just try to join gambling. Those who have lack of self-control, it is better to not join gambling. In my own opinion, gambling is for the people who have good self control only.

Those people who gamble for a long time doesn't mean all of them get addiction. Those who gamble in a healthy way, they are probably safe from addiction. Dealing with addiction will depend on our mentality and the way to gamble. We can avoid it if we have good self-control, limit funds/time for gambling, never be greedy or emotional, and aware of the bad impacts. However it is okay to stop it if someone totally can't do these.

The gamblers that are able to control themselves are just two things, became addicted and have recovered and promised not to be one again.

Second, those that have learned from the mistake of others. So, if they've seen the other people became addicted to gambling and they've seen the effect of it to their lives. They don't want to be like them.

And that's why they're very conscious and they're doing their best to control everything they do related to gambling. From the control of the amount they afford to lose and from the span of time they are gambling.

In fact, for those who are addicted to gambling and have a great desire to earn money from gambling, it will be very difficult to accept gambling as entertainment and bring it to a level from excessive gambling. Now a person used to gamble constantly and used a lot of money in gambling, now if that person is asked to accept gambling as entertainment and allocate a very small amount of money to gambling, then I think it will be very difficult for this person to follow this instruction because his hope of earning money from gambling and constant gambling will not allow him to be right at all. However, in our case, any decision is a matter of the moment because we are accepting gambling as entertainment and using a small amount of money in gambling, due to which we can remain steadfast in any decision at any time.

I tend to agree.
Don't chase your losses, and don't make gambling your source of income.
These are early warning signs to consider, such as chasing losses, secrecy, increased time and money spent, or neglecting responsibilities, which are noticeable while you're not yet addicted.

You can take preventive measures, as a gambling addiction begins with self-awareness, which is recognizing why you gamble, whether for entertainment or as a source of income.  Keep this in mind as a responsible gambler.

Both can be hard if the gambler is not determined to disciplined himself in gambling. Permanently stopping gambling could be difficult if it become part of your daily or weekly habit while limiting yourself to gamble is also not easy especially if you have weak emotion. Whether you win or lose, you will likely to deposit more since you're not satisfied with the outcome of your game.

I can't say absolute abstinence of gambling is effective strategy than doing it in moderation since if you gamble with a limit then it means you follow a strict routine which unlikely cause you to go into addiction.

Exactly, but before I go past this point, if like you to understand that the switch got only two sides -- if you're not up, you're down.. either red or black, yes or no! Consistency is one reason why..

Control what exactly?? Can you make some explanations on that part?..
So, this is just like saying -- since you're a very good swimmer and you can hold your breath for 4 minutes under water, why not just live in water and control your breathing? Now how does that sound?
I always say, if it gets to a point where you begin struggling with the decision whether to quit or stay, then it's high time you left cause the next thing that will befall you may just prove those feelings right.

At the moment that you do gamble then the main priority that you should be having in mind is to have fun and entertainment or simply with the leisure that you should be getting. On the moment that you have decided on trying out to make money with it then this is where issues will be starting to come out. Why? This is where the initial steps on which it will be causing up for you to become addicted. Gambling isnt that bad as long you do make yourself that responsible because on the time or moment that you do become that having no right way of thinking about into your actions towards it then this is where issues will be keeping on piling up. The main thing that comes up into your mind is on how you would be coping up into the loses that you do have experienced earlier and since from the start you are that aiming on making money with gambling then the reality do give out that different result on which it do lead up into that disappointment and on the time that you hadnt been able to meet up your expectations since you have started with gambling. Speaking about strategy then it is just that adding up on the spice of your gambling session but this isnt something that would be a holy grail for you to make money with gambling on which this is a very wrong mentality that you would be having. So it will be just that wrong on thinking up on this way and cant be denied that this is one of the main reasons on why gamblers trying out different strategies on which at the time that they do bust up then they would be hopping into other strategy that they have seen in other gamblers that made up them win and then test it out and doing it continuously until they have lost big time.

Is it harder to get a safe ride in a flying boat (which is rough but assured) than to be forced on a surfboard in the middle of the sea? Why do you ask questions when you already know the answers to them? It's more difficult to keep afloat in the game without going beyond boundaries in the long run.

it's because, before you came up with a thought to disrupt the wild ride after losing too much, it was all about putting a stop to what incures the loses, not controlling how the losses come. So, just like I said, there's only one way out if it starts feeling unsafe for your finances and health -- quit for good! Those set of gamblers that realized themselves in time and always wanted to quit are usually motivated by some gutter-level mindsets like this one.

No, it's not because it doesn't contradict itself.
John is exercising, but  John being fat is not a paradox.
John is exercising, he has barely eaten in 7 days, but he has gained 7 kilos, that's ...NOT a paradox!
John had 80 kilos, he has lost 10 kilos, but he is weighing 75 kilos...is NOT a paradox, it's a math mistake!

So again, not a paradox, just a counterintuitive scenario!


Again, that's not a paradox, it has no logical conflict!


Yet again, you're missing the point by a mile!
My topic is about gambling, with an actual bet, actual odds and clear math on the return and the rules of the betting.
And no, I don't want to philosophize, that's garbage for the off-topic section!

The first part of the question is really tough because both of them require strong willpower to achieve. Controlling gambling has a lot of similarities with stopping to gamble because anyone who can control how his gambling can as well decide never to gamble again when he feels there is no hope in gambling for him. I have been in a situation where I stayed out of gambling for months, not that I decided to quit but I needed that break from gambling. I have not seen any reason to quit because gambling will surely pay me big someday.

Someone already found a victim of addiction cant effectively engaged the mystery of moderation, instead things will rather be getting more worse at the cause, that is why some will advise that we first go by obstinance, which is to stop or pause gambling for a moment before the right and appropriate approach could get in place to help in the situation, but i think its more better we control and regulate our gambling habits before it all gets to this stage.

I think what happens from both is a process for addicted gamblers to stop gambling.
Addicted gamblers cannot immediately stop gambling in a short time. Except for those who have really run out of all their assets. Those who want to get out of addiction can also try to gradually control their gambling. Of course, it must be with supervision and the amount of activity and bets that are adjusted. The habits that are carried out allow gamblers to build new and more controlled gambling activities. The process will certainly not be easy because at first there will definitely be a conflict with the desire to continue gambling which is finally limited.

I think it's paradoxical because if you can stop gambling from one moment to the next, which implies a sudden action, some might intuit that controlling it would be easier because it involves minimal action.
But this is an intuitive paradox; it has nothing to do with biology or mathematics. It's what we humans believe at first glance. If we look at the mere scientific fact, nothing, absolutely nothing, would be paradoxical because everything happens for a reason and everything has some explanation. Although in many cases we wouldn't know how to explain it.

And if you don't want to philosophize, don't. But there's no rule preventing me from posting this here. Even if it bothers you, 50% of the posts on gambling should be deleted.

Although the beauty of these threads is creating, debating, and expressing opinions, and this thread is fulfilling its purpose. Even if these posts bother you, you're here interacting with me.

I don't agree with you completely because entertainment is just one part of gambling, money is the major part and the biggest motivation for gambling. Check how big some of the reputable casinos we have in this forum are and tell me if they got that big by offering entertainment services to their customers. I gamble so I will be able to earn money at the end and not because I enjoy the entertainment of spending money to gamble.

Yes, when a gambler has managed to control himself, then there are two choices, between returning to gambling with a better approach or stopping completely, and if for example you choose to continue I would suggest that you first check or identify whether you are really a responsible gambler or not, I am worried that in the end you will be carried away again to the impulsive approach as before, my advice is to make sure to maintain a level of awareness in yourself while you are gambling, the reason is because gambling is an activity that is full of temptations that can indirectly lead us to various impulsive actions unconsciously that can lead us to disappointment and emotion, so stopping completely can indeed be the best decision

The urge to gamble is a result of the monetary system we live in.
In an inflationary fiat money system, where the value of money constantly declines, people naturally develop a short-term mindset and turn to speculation, gambling, and the pursuit of quick wealth, because saving no longer makes sense.
In contrast, in stable monetary systems like Bitcoin, people are more motivated to save and plan for the long term, as their money retains its value over time.
In such an environment, there would be less gambling and financial despair.

These topics are covered in detail by Saifedean Ammous in his book The Bitcoin Standard. I highly recommend it an excellent read,

This means that over time you will become addicted to gambling and perhaps you will remember my message that everything that happens to you was predicted in advance. And that's not because I'm clairvoyant, but because it works that way and only that way.

I can't help but intervene... share how much you "earned"? I'm ready to bet that there were more losses than expenses. In the same way, I can say that by working somewhere offline, you will earn more than you do now, calling gambling earnings. The only thing I can understand is that you either do not have the education to get a well-paid job or are very lazy. Find out how much profit entertainment establishments have, which are the same as your presented trusted casinos.  I can conclude that you have never been to places where people can also have fun, throwing away a lot of money selflessly, since you do not allow yourself to spend extra, but this in no way says that such expensive places do not exist.

I think it is easier to stop all together than to try to control your gambling addiction. When you stop you will avoid your old habits and thinking patterns. If you try to control and go gambling (online or at live casino) you will trigger thinking patterns that led you in addiction in the first place. It requires great self control and discipline to break away from old habits, specially if the person is addicted already.

So if you are addicted I recommend absolute abstinence.

this is true not only for gambling, but also for alcohol, smoking and most other addictions. my opinion is that the reason for this is as follows:

there is no “middle ground” in most addictive things. every person is uninterested in gambling before they start. of those who start, very few manage to keep their gambling “limited”. the majority will either gamble more and more or stop altogether because they are not interested.

this is why it is easier to stop gambling completely than to gamble rarely. every time you gamble rarely, it is hard to tell yourself to “stop” after a while, whereas when you stop gambling completely, you don't need to tell yourself to stop after a while. this is how the brain works.

The issue of falling into addiction while gambling depends entirely on our greed level. Those who are greedy cannot control themselves and eventually become addicted to gambling, and at the same time, many times they have to take a total break from gambling.

Actually, if you look closely, you will see that only those percentages who are addicted are those who have a high level of greed, and because they have a high level of wealth, they gamble even after losing many times and then borrow again. I think it's better for these public figures to break from  gambling. Because they will never be able to recover themselves, but rather will become addicted again if they are exposed to gambling.

I have not won as much as I target to win from gambling but surely I'm profitable in gambling. I don't know why most of you believe that people are not winning big in gambling. You must know that if people are not winning big, the gambling industry would have collapsed because there are better video games and cinemas to give people the entertainment they want than gambling.

I would have taken your bet and request we put real money so I can share my six months stats in some gambling platforms both local and international but you are not my target to win but the rich casinos that my winning will not be too much of a burden to them.

I understand the aspect of entrainment in gambling that is being emphasized by lots of people and I also enjoy it like in slot games that the background sound is entertaining when you hit free bets. But in sports bet, there is no such thing since it's a one off something that you place your bet and wait for the judgement. There is nothing entertaining in sports betting apart from when you are lucky to win and take your friends for a hangout over some bottles of beer to enjoy the a small portion of the money.

The most effective way of quiting gambling here it is, looking for something worth doing that takes away your time from roaring around looking for odds to bet on. In as much as you are busy with this thing, then the possibility to quitting gambling is sure to happen even if the player can bet at least once every weekend and no longer everyday.

Well, if you could have been able to moderate it you wouldn't have fallen into the gambling addiction in the first instance. So if you have been able to work on the addiction and finally eliminate and taken control of it and you feel you can't moderate it, then it's best you quit absolutely in you best interest.

I have known some gamblers who left gambling after battling to win themself out of the addiction of it, then later got back after some length of break and they got worse. So I believe in such context complete abstinence is the best.

Well for those who is addicted to gambling it will definitely be difficult for them to control or limit themselves from gambling so the best option would be to take a break and then make corrections were appropriate or plan on how to go about it.
The reason why moderation isn't the best strategy here , is because the habits is already formed so being moderate especially when one is already addicted to gambling wouldn't really be possible.moderation will only work out when it is initiated from the on start.

Prevention is usually better than care ordinarily anything excessive is never good for health, a gambler know when things is becoming abnormal, just as everything has beginning must have an end the best is to control by taking certain measure of having limit to which one operate on anything gambling but whereby that seem impossible as result of having been deeply induced quitting should be alternative.

What you said is true, besides that not everyone who gambles will definitely experience addiction because it depends on the level of greed as you said and with their own perspective on gambling, there are two possible different views.

First, with those who view gambling as something that can provide benefits in a short period of time, this perspective factor tends to make perpetrators addicted to gambling faster with other factors such as what you said with the level of greed or always feeling lacking when they have succeeded in winning.

With the second, those who view gambling as just entertainment without excessive expectations in the gambling they do. Usually people like this are wise in gambling, there is no behavior that leads to addiction such as continuously depositing money when they have lost, feeling dissatisfied even though they have made a profit or chasing victory.

Surely gambling addiction is hard to control and this is an everyday challenge to all gamblers and given up on this challenge is what a actually leads to addiction so many tried and give up along the road but however, when it becomes too problematic quiting can a solution other than controlling to certain gamblers, honestly our ability to understand our strength and  weakness is another phenomenon that will enhance that self control and reduces the vulnerability of being addicted to gambling of course it is not impossible and early timing is the best before it can become worst.

Sometimes gambling addiction can cripple a person financial life and at that we need to take things seriously when we are gambling and how we handle our gambling activities to avoid getting into addiction unknowingly to us thinking we are in control by gambling excessively without noticing.


Just as you have said, too much of everything is bad actually and for that we need to abide by the rules that be if we must survive in the gambling scene for a long period of time, enough of the too much risks just to hit the highest multipliers which may likely be unreachable in most cases.

That's right. If a person gets dopamine and adrenaline from gambling and his addiction does not cause financial or psychological problems, then he should not even think about completely giving up gambling. Completely giving up gambling is necessary for those who have problems with it and cannot overcome their addiction on their own. In this case, complete refusal gives the gambling addict time to understand the existing problem and learn to enjoy life without gambling. Otherwise, such gamblers simply go down the path of degradation.

It is harder to not gambling forever than to set limit that is for the gambler who is already active in gambling but for those who have not gambled at all, it would be easier to not gamble forever.


Both are effective strategies but depending on the situation one will be much more effective than the other one and vice versa.  Like for a gambling addict it is best for him to have a n absolute abstinence to avoid the recurrence of gambling addiction, while for those who gamble regularly and is not addicted to gambling is best to have moderation because it would be easier for them to implement limit than absolute abstinence.

For many people, it's not easy to control their own gambling habits and when they get addicted, they prefer to completely get rid of it because if they start again, they'll get addicted again. It's the pattern that causes addiction. When you place a bet, lose, then try to chase it. In overall, people who gamble for money, get addicted to gambling but for those, who gamble for fan, rarely develop addiction. So, since addicts are here for the money and not for the fun, they'll definitely fail in control of their gambling habit because the reason they gamble for, already looks addictive. Also, when someone has a past for developing an addiction, they'll more likely develop it again.

As long as someone is still involved in gambling, he will always be close to gambling addiction, even though he has tried to control the gambling activity.

Only a few gamblers are able to manage themselves well when they are in gambling, and the rest are trapped in a never-ending gambling cycle, they will only stop when the money they have is completely gone or when they get a win that can satisfy them. So when someone wants to really get out of the never-ending gambling cycle and the valley of addiction, then he must really leave it and never come back again.

You are right, the two types of gamblers you mentioned here are actually true gamblers. For example, if I say something about myself, I always try to keep gambling within a limit and I don't gamble regularly. However, sometimes I do sports betting in my free time. Which is just for my entertainment.
And I always try to bet the smallest amount possible so that I don't face any big losses because I believe that in gambling I will lose most of the time and win very rarely. And to be honest, gambling this way has allowed me to control my losses in the same way I get entertainment from gambling.

I just made 6 months or more that I stopped furious gambling yet I have still a strong desire to go back and win more, gamble more. The reason I don't is because I know the feeling of consecutive losing sessions and I don't wish that to anyone. It is true only a substantial win can make us stop or heavy duty lost sessions in a row like happened to me, also based on my experience many slot providers are doing the same mechanics and different themes to keep us hooked, once you realize their pattern of a slot you can directly stop playing as you are in the know how, you cannot be fooled anymore, at least this was the case with me, I never played again a slot that betrayed me thousand times before.

There's a saying that goes as this, once a gambler always a gambler, meaning that it's hard to stop gambling which is why a lot of people do their best to control it and keep their addiction in check. You don't have a problem at all if you are gambling moderately, stopping gambling forever can be a lot of work but if you work on having limits and controlling yourself you would learn to gamble responsibly and cautiously

And what amount of money can you say for sure that can satisfy a person, remember that what you may find satisfaction in may not be same for another. And also do not forget that money is never enough.

Who ever gambles and win a large amount of money and then quit gambling completely was never a true gambler, and this to even keep aside the fact that what we are talking about here is the addicted gambler, no gambling addict will win any amount of money and quit, depending on the level of the addiction, he may take a break of few days or weeks, but rest assured that before one month is over, he or she is back gambling, and if care if not taken, he or she may end up spending the entire winning on gambling again, this is how bad addiction to gambling can be, so best thing is to always avoid whatever will make you become an addicted gambler.

If the gambling addiction is serious and strong enough, then the best option would be to contact a specialist in this field. Without this process, it is very problematic for a person to get out of gambling on their own and give up gambling. I went through this myself. Yes, it happened many years ago. It did not come to professional help, but relatives and close people helped to cope with this harmful habit. No, gradually it did not work out and I had to abruptly quit everything so that there was not even a thought about starting to play again. Now I play, but there is no longer such a strong craving and I am aware of how all this can end if I start to abuse.

I remember how it used to be for me, when I started losing, got into an unlucky streak, and saw my balance start to drop significantly. It could wear me out, and I could just place one bet on the remaining balance. Let’s say something like an all in, and this bet was supposed to either win back everything I had lost, or I would lose my deposit and stop there.

It is not hard to guess how it usually ended. But now I realize how big a mistake that was. If there are several losses in a row, it is better to stop and take a break, then come back later, and there will be a better chance to get some wins than making wrong decisions in such emotions.

exactly, you enter into a series of rituals and things that have nothing to do with rationality, you enter into a vortex of things that are not good for your psychophysical health which then leads to more serious problems and certainly to a sure economic defeat, because then when you lose money you think that there is no longer the possibility of recovering it and it's over

The point is that existence on this earth doesn't depend on gambling so you can quit if you can no longer cope with irresponsible gambling habits. There's no need to force yourself to be controlling your addiction when you can just quit, although I know that addiction is not something that somebody can stop abruptly. But it has to start with a decision, if you don't want to gamble again then don't go near anything that is related to gambling, try and find another entertainment or hobby. But for gamblers who were addicted and can be able to come back and gamble responsibly I think that they can continue.

I think this only depends on the gambler. Some can have a hard time on restricting them selves towards gambling, so they think the solution is to cut it off completely.

As for me, I already attempted removing gambling in my life (completely) by uninstalling the gambling applications that are installed on my devices but then I find my self re-installing them after some time because I feel so empty. I know it must be because of the decision I made on the past and then when I play, I feel happy again and then something is telling me that I can do this better this time which is true though. So, now I know how to discipline my self in case I relapsed again.

It's most likely greed. I just don't know how to explain it anymore. I became a victim of it myself. I wanted to win a large sum of money, but in the end I fell into a financial hole from which I saw no way out. I owed so much money that I wanted to commit suicide. Fortunately, I remembered that I have a family that needs me and I can't leave them alone like that. It was a difficult and hard time, but I managed to cope with the problem. I can't say it was easy. I had to go through a lot.

It's not necessarily that critical, but in general, yes, after you reach some losing streak, all you want to do is play the rest of your deposit to either win back everything that was lost, or in case of a loss, you will have 0 on your balance and you will have to stop anyway. In this case, the emotional fatigue that we get from a losing streak also plays a role, but this can be prevented if you stop after several losses, when this critical point has not yet been reached. It is better to take a break and rest than to continue to zero out your deposit.

One thing you must know is that even though people aren't winning in gambling, the gambling industry wouldn't collapse because a lot of people don't have time to play video games or go to cinemas to be entertained, but since people can use phones and laptops to gamble, people can easily place a bet and be entertained even if they are on their way to a business trip, so no matter the winner ratio of gamblers, the gambling industry will not collapse.

Actually for an already addicted gambler this is tough to accept and start. Complete stopping might be difficult initially but can be done and should be the target.

If one recognizes the problem early then it is a good start. Eventually they will begin to control it.

Self exclusion is also an option if you are determined to quit. Remind yourself what good places you could have visited rather if you saved that money.

For me it is much easier not to gamble at all, than to limit gambling, create gambling budget. Once started, once success start to appear, it is always hard to stop or pause. As usually, greed ruins everything. Setting limit isnt that good, because it can easily be corrected.

There is an example on a forum. There is a user who try to recover from addiction (even though he says he has recovered), had a pause in gambling, then returned and say the is limiting amount of attention he gives to gambling. However, I notice him around gambling topics all the time, I notice him trying luck in "game and round" challenges.

There is a temptation. For some people, gambling is a temptation. What happens when you are on a diet and smell a very delicious Doner Kebab? You immediately want to eat it and cheat on your diet. Gambling is like that for those, who are addicted to it. There are people who gamble for fun, control themselves and have willpower to not let themselves deep dive into the addiction but there are those who find it very difficult, failed into it and now prefer to not gamble forever cause if they start it, those emotions will revive into them and they'll become addicted again.

No, such a person will not come to the idea that gambling can be controlled. He will decide to quit and say that he will never gamble again. And he will be from aha ь triggers and will make it his goal that his relatives should be happy. He will work in business or at an official job, but will never gamble in an online casino again. I watch programs about such people and I know what I am talking about. If someone thinks that he can control gambling, then this person will not be able to completely exclude gambling from his life.

I felt sorry for your that situation and as well have it to see that you had successfully came out from that situation.

We will find hundreds more cases like yours if we explore the internet. But not everyone can get out of here. I have already said that one of my own classmate committed suicide.
My suggestion to you is to keep yourself cool and always limit your activity, and when you see that you can't keep it limited, I would say to get out of here even if you need take an appointment with a psychologist.

You are right, it's easy to trigger someone dealing with this but this doesn't mean that gambling addiction isn't controllable, the problem with most people is that they try to control it a few times but when they relapsed they don't put in extra effort to make sure that they don't repeat the same mistakes but instead they give up. This isn't something that can be mastered in a day, controlling gambling takes a lot

The reason why you should completely stop gambling rather than controlling it is that gambling is one thing that intoxicates so it's better that you quit because one can be pretending to control gambling and still find himself playing excessively so the best thing to do is to leave gambling completely as that is the best option

Avoiding it isn't the main problem the real deal is dealing with your State of mind, there are many people that got rid of triggers and other things that would make them gamble but their mindset still made them succumb to the temptation. The perfect solution to this is by keeping your mind busy with enough activities that are lucrative, it would be better if you make money form those activities you are doing

I do not support taking big risks in gambling. It should not be done. Bro you take big risks. And it seems that most of the time you have lost big amount of money in it.
We should always spend less money in gambling than the amount we can make an effort. Mate you know very well that most of the gambling is dependent on our luck. So we can test our luck by spending very small amount of money in these gambling. However, in gambling which is not dependent on luck, if we are skilled then even if we invest big amount of money, we will not face much loss.
When we see that we cannot control ourselves after winning or loosing money in gambling, then we should understand that we are addicted to gambling. Winning and losing are normal in gambling. Those who participate in gambling regularly should not be too much emotional. We should be more careful.

It's harder for a once addicted gambler to control their gambling habits so it's good if they quit at first, taking some time off is the best first step as an addict, give it some time and do other things, there will be enough time to think if you can handle or control gambling or not.

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The first win step is quitting, thousands of gamblers can't even quit in peace, they hate gambling for a day and after two days they start to feel like gambling again, if any addicted gambler can make up his or her mind then they already won.

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What should come next is decision about how to control gambling or stay a quit forever, the truth is gambling ain't for everyone, many people don't know this until they fall victim to the addiction part of gambling before they realize.