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I have been reading through many of the topics on gambling and based on my knowledge of trading I had to think of something that if people treat gambling the way they treat trading will that increase their chances of success? For instance, will chances of success increase if people choose to bet on specific outcomes in the game as the game is on rather than the result of the whole game as many gamblers usually target. I think it will be easier to guess some specific outcomes in a game when you see how the game is progressing. What do you think of this?

You will likely failed in the long run since gambling and trading has completely different mechanics on how they work. Gambling is mainly based on luck even on sportsbook. Your trading skills is not applicable on gambling because price pattern and sports behavior have different factor to consider.

Sports analysis is much complicated than price analysis since there’s no indicator and pattern that will help you to guess the result.

Anyway, it will not hurt you to do some experiments.

Did you mean in-play? Many gamblers are using in-play to bet.

Also know that as many people are losing in gambling so are many people losing in trading. Just do both moderately and responsibly. No need to waste too much money on both.

Not at all, it's a different element, unless the trading you mean is binary options it will describe the same thing because it is a part of gambling that is considered by many people as trading, only you should know that it will not increase any winning results in gambling if you use it in the same way.

Gambling with trading actually has many different factors and more complex analysis methods than what is in gambling.

Live matches or live games are easily being manipulated and you can't predict how the game (match) would run. Although betting on live matches when they are almost about 2nd half is more better but then who knows what would happened at the dying minutes as things do changes. I could remembered then when I stake on a live matches with the hope that weaker team gonna lose completely 1-0 and, at extra time of 5 minutes they equalized the match making it 1-1, severely I have tried it but I does that with 2 to 5 matches most times I will have 4/5, 3/5 and 2/5 and I will end up losing. The only day I had winning was I stake on a single bet thereabouts and is almost within 30 minutes they started.

That’s the right approach if you're treating gambling as actual betting specifically for sports betting.

You’ll notice a lot of market line movement once the game goes live, but it’s the system that drives that movement. The only way to take advantage of it is if you really have good knowledge of the game and solid analytical skills. As for me, I’ve been trying that too, it’s just that I haven’t found success with it yet. Maybe I’m still not skilled enough.

I think it's more likely to be the opposite: strategy in trading is like gambling.

Short term trading is an illusion, as the market is too volatile and unpredictable, while most people engaged on this kind of activity lose money. The ones who insist making profit from trading are the ones who most lose money along the time. They believe to be accumulating experience and improving their skills, although it's not about skills at all... If a gambler believes the same can be applied in gambling, he is going to suffer the same prejudice.

And by reading there are a lot of people promoting that kind of view as true, makes me believe there is a new wave of newbies coming into trading and gambling industry just now. It's not a new phenomenon and many of us here have already been in your position when we were newbies too.

I thought you going to list out the strategy but you are just asking from the masses.

Although, you may be meaning live games where you enter at a specific time and go out at a specific time, if in sport betting, it's either guaranteed to win or loss in live matches.

The only strategy I can assure you of winning in live matches in betting at 75' minutes to ending and the bet option preferably is no goal till the ending of the match.

Well thats two different thing gambling and trading so i believe its not gonna work out. Plus gambling mostly rely on luck than strategy for some games. Like example slots. How can you used some parameter there to win employing a trading strat. Impossible right? Coz its not fit on that front. Gambling is like 70% luck and 30% strategy.

I’m not a football fan but I do bet on some games like the world cup and there’s a lot of goal made after the 75minutes mark.

I think the success on this strategy depends on the league or team you are backing since there’s always a pattern on most of the outcome of the game.

In basketball, I do place bet on player props with star players of each team because they often deliver same performance in many games.

Do you mean gambling on a specific outcome like for example "Ronaldo to score 2 goals? Messi to receive yellow card? Or Manchester City to have 8+ corners? Because if that's what you meant, it still doesn't guarantee success, because you still have a percentage chances of losing too, despite the fact that it is a bit different than gambling on either Home, Away or Draw to win the full match. Because when it comes to trading, there are certain news a trader will see and immediately knows what direction the market will follow, which is literally not the same with Sport games, as a strong club could lose, and likewise a weak club win when luck falls into play. Hence, both are distinctively different and should be followed by their respective strategies.

they are only similar in a sense that you have to watch out for signs to decide but i find it hard to connect trading with gambling honestly

there are games that allow you to keep betting as the game is going on but a lot of games only will allow you to bet before the game starts and even if you are watching anything can happen in live sports

This is quite an interesting topic, I was expecting you to point out some of the strategies that trading and gambling has in common. But first thing you must understand about trading is that it has it's uncertainties just like gambling but there's a lot of professionalism in it, the market has a dynamic that works based for you based on your knowledge of it, trading strategies work over a long period of time when you understand the direction of the market, as for gambling it's mostly luck

I think that one of these is the player props. But while it is easy to win betting in this type of "market", it is also one of the riskiest outcomes to bet on. I think that name gambler who is not meticulous cannot bet here and most gamblers are so they go for the general types of bet. But yeah, I agree with you.

Everything seems possible and easy in gambling until you actually put it to the test and then you’ll realise that no strategy can give you an edge over the house - the house always wins.

I actually don’t fully understand what you’re trying to say, but one thing I know is that it’s not going to work; so many strategies haven’t been thought of and they all failed miserably and I don’t think this is some kind of strategy that will somehow make gamblers successful - but if you can explain further on how it works, maybe then I can give a better answer as to whether I think it will work or if it’s just another waste of time and money.

While I believe watching the games live can make you decide better who to put your money on, I doubt treating gambling as trading means you have better chance of success. I don't even know what that means.

But being a sport fan usually makes you foresee the outcome already. However you wanna make sure of it, depends on you. For some betting live is an option.

To increase the chances of winning on live betting, maybe possible, but sometimes the odds offered are not better. Could bet on corner kick advantage or other markets that can be profitable than 1x2. But still, trading is trading, and gambling is still gambling. There is a difference between the two. Of course, you will not place a trading position as you speculate in making a bet.

Just like trader reacts to real time market changes live bettors can react to what is happening in game trying to predict smaller events. This can feel easier to predict and offer chances to jump on changing odds but it also means fast decisions and and constantly changing odds similar to fast paced day trading. And live betting might offer more chances to react it actually leads to more consistent success in long run is debatable as fast pace and built in house edge still make it challenging requiring strong discipline and emotional control much like in short term financial trading.

There was a time when prediction where mostly done just  by looking at the likelihood of the outcome of each game, the result is not always positive and so, the narrative has changed with a lot of gamblers including myself now being more about outcomes within the game like the number of goals that cam be scored in each game and also the number of corners that might likely happen in each game. This way, it's easier to be a bit accurate in your prediction because even if a you're a bit unsure of which team has the highest chance of winning, you're at least able to predict which of the outcome you want to look into. Once a game is progressing, the odds might change and become a bit smaller compared to making the prediction before the game starts. For that reason, it's always best to do your prediction before a game starts and use whatever option you are at least sure of based on your analysis.

Gamblers are already making such bet. I have a friend who doesn't bet on the outcome of the match, he only bets on first to score, a particular player will score, and the outcome of the first half. When I aaked him why, he chooses ti bet in this pattern, he told me that he has the chance of making profits from various sides.

I don't like gambling this way, I believe on who wins the match, because that's the fun in the game. However, the chance of you losing your bet is the same as betting on only the final outcome of the game.

I do hope it's easy as that.

Gambling is very risky while trading have some options. I believe it's easier in trading becuase somehow we can pivk a less risky trading options. There's no such thing in gambling. You risk your money, you either win or lose. We cannot compare it with gambling becuae of the different way it is settled. It's best if we could treat gambling as it is so we can protect ourselves from making mistakes.

There maybe no pattern but I believe there is an indicator that helps a bettor to increase their chance of predicting an outcome if we are talking about sports betting.  Since each team have statistics and data of players, coach and strategy.  Knowing this can greatly increase the possibility of predicting the right outcome.

But when it comes to a chance-based game, I highly agree that there are no indicators or patterns that can help us to know the result of the bet.


Yeah, bookies are really cunning.  They tend to produce lots of options for people to bet even in a single match to maximize their income.  But I think some people like it that way because there are known teams that are a strong starter but weak finisher, this way bettor can have more chance of winning if there is an option like what you have stated.

Talking about these two things, I think there are similarities and differences, and maybe what you mean is like in-play. But I myself think there is no clear certainty that it can increase the chances of winning, maybe it can but still with the chances of winning which are still uncertain, we know that gambling is a thing in the form of probability, although there are several types of games that can increase the chances of winning with a strategy to win but still the main thing is the chances of winning that the house has are superior.

These two things are certainly almost the same because there is money as the main role and the risk of loss is also the side of profit that both of these things have, with those who trade and may be experts I think it does not mean that they can apply their trading strategies to gambling and can make a profit for sure, the interesting thing is that these two things in my opinion involve luck.

There's no perfect strategy in gambling and gamblers are losing same way traders are losing, this is the fact so whether it's gambling or trading just engage responsibly. We have experienced sports analysts and if their is a strategy like the in play, that is proven to be very effective to give sure wins many gamblers would have switch to it. But the fact remains that no matter your gambling skills you still need luck to win so use small amount to place your bets and accept win or lose. Don't depend on gambling wins or trading profits to survive, they are both risky.

What we must know is that, there is no way to predict the outcome of a game no matter the amount of analysis that you may have done, so for that gamblers must rely on luck regardless of their own accuracy in analysis of the game and team's.


Unlike in trading where if you have the right strategy and calculations you are sure of making the right position in the end, what that means is that, you win more in trading than we do in gambling.

Basically, gambling and trading are different, we know that trading is analyzing market habit patterns which can be used to predict future market movements based on market habits, while gambling basically uses quite complex analysis in sports betting, and requires a lot of consideration such as team and individual performance which takes quite a long time, while gambling other than that, usually requires a lot of luck. Maybe both of them also require luck, but it is very different as I mentioned.

Everyone who has at least read a money management book would immediately differentiate between the two things as different although I can say that even trading is the same as gambling in certain circumstances. Everyone should know that in gambling you are only relying on luck to bring you returns which honestly is not the smartest idea or strategy in the world while in trading there is some sort of analysis most of persons dealing with that which can result in better returns, though for me investing is the only thing which is better compared to the two things mentioned here, gambling and trading will lead you to lost money most of the times while investing if done right it can make your money compound in a good way over the long term. Not much to say except that there is no working strategy nor in gambling nor in trading.

In trading, you may be able to understand and track how others are succeeding and trading successfully by watching their activities or watching other people's discounts. However, in gambling, no matter how much you track others or use your own unique strategy, you will never be able to do well if your luck is not good. In gambling, everything depends on luck. But of course, you should have a good idea about the game you play, then your luck can also work very well, but if you do not have any knowledge about that game, then your luck will fail in that case. Many times, luck can be changed by trying hard, but in gambling, by trying that hard, you will become weak in the end because there you will lose a lot before that, which will hurt you a lot. But if you have the ability to take that risk then you can do that.

There are a lot of options like that, like how many corner kicks a game will have before it ends, betting on a particular player, betting on cards, which team gets the highest, etc. Sometimes it can be very easy to guess, and the outcome can be very positive, but it's not usually that easy in the long run. Even if you are following up on the game when it's live, something can change along the line, and what you predicted can just go sideways. Gambling, no matter the strategy you try to use, is not always 100% productive, but when you use the right tactics, you can be more successful than others.

If you are watching the games, you can get a better idea of ​​what each team is actually producing at that moment and what they might produce in the next few minutes, but it is important that you pay close attention to the past games of these teams because when a football game reaches the 80th minute, a lot tends to happen in the next 10 minutes, unlike from minutes 1 to 79.

For example, it is normal for a team to be winning by 2 goals from the 5th minute to the 79th minute, but when the 80th minute arrives, the opponent starts playing well and scores 3 goals. Since you have seen that the team that scored 2 goals would be winning, you could bet on the victory of the team that scored 2 goals and you would lose your bet.

Know the difference between gambling and betting. What you are referring to is betting when the game is on, and I think it means you have to be watching the game for you to know the outcome to bet on.

However, I like the idea but it is still risky with high odds, while at times the odds are very small for you to bet on.

Betting on a live events is thesame thing as betting for the results when the game has not started so I don't see any difference between the two what you need to know is that sport in general is dynamic especially football a team will be dominating a game and sometimes even winning but in the thinking of an eye the losing team bounce back to win the game so I don't see the difference between the two wining on gambling is a matter of luck

It may be possible, but it is important to understand that trading and gambling are two different things, with different levels of risk. Trading involves analysis, planning, and risk management to achieve profit, while gambling relies more on luck and probability. So the decision-making will be different.

But maybe we can apply some trading principles to gambling, such as risk management and probability analysis, which can help us minimize the risk of loss in gambling. But one thing to remember is that gambling has a higher level of fluctuation compared to trading, so unexpected results occur more often.

We cannot compare the gambling strategy with the trading because they are far different. Even though those that are into gambling try to treat it the way they treat trading, I don’t think they can achieve their goal with that same strategy.

Because even their outcomes are not the same, and that’s why we can't compare them with each other, one thing about the trading is that he/she who has an interest in the trading must learn about the trading in order to get knowledge about how the trading process works and how the market operates.

However, the gambling can be simply operated with the experience that you have gained, since the gambling doesn’t necessarily mean that you are most leaning towards it before a person can introduce themselves into it, and that’s why we see that the number of people in the gambling are increasing every blessed day. Because once you’ve experienced about the football, you will be able to gamble on a normal knowledge.

There are a number of people who are always betting on a specific outcome in a game, but still, they lose. I have tried that method before betting on a single outcome in a game and honestly, I didn’t see any change.in fact, the funny part is that I once bet on a 5minute draw. I picked five to six matches just to get a 1.5 odd, but I still lost the bet because, surprisingly, some teams scored as early as the 1st or 2nd minute. I tried that method about five times and only won three out of the five attempts.

Later, when I did the calculation, I realized I didn’t make any profit because the 1.5 odds I was chasing required five matches. So, if I wanted to aim for just a 2 odd, I would have to combine around 8 to 10 matches, which significantly increases the risk.so, in my opinion, trying to treat gambling like trading will never increase someone chances of winning.

Trading can't be treated the same way gambling is being treated,  the reasons is that, most of the gambling is a game we watch to entertain ourselves, secondly people use gambling to catch fun's with friends, so that's is why gambling is no longer of same, we need to know that you can't compare gambling with trading, people doesn't develop much interest on trading, majority who is in trading is looking for a personal profit why many people who bet, do that for challenge purposes with colleagues, so that's the difference between gambling and trading, some rich people is not into trading but so many rich people is into gambling, because gambling is full of teams of cruises

I think this is completely misleading. The misconception of comparing gambling with trading may be clear to you if I explain it to you. For example the chances of winning in gambling are uncertain and the chances of losing are high. If you study gambling for a few weeks and play in favor of that gambling topic you can never be sure of winning. Losing money in gambling is a daily and regular thing and the chances of winning are relatively low.

Trading is one of the most profitable ways for experienced traders and through market analysis a trader can get high profits in a very short time. Inexperienced traders can also get high profits by selecting the right and reliable coins. Due to some mistakes in trading losses may occur for a short time but the chances of traders losing their entire money are very low. There will be a possibility of recovering the capital within some time or a few months. Gambling is completely different from trading and there is no possibility of getting back the lost money.

Dont focus on strategies, better enjoy the process. If you try to make things complicated, if will spoil all the fun. People have been gambling for ages, tried million strategies and still havent found anything working properly. Its a game of chance. Even if someone suggest you a strategy that you look logical and working, it will fail anyway, believe me. Dont treat gambling like trading. There are no patterns, there are no possibilities to predict, there are no chances to use knowledge of past today.

In terms of treatment, there is something wrong in my opinion because trading is a skill that can be used to earn passive income most of the time, while gambling is not that system.

So here is where there is something wrong with your treatment of that matter, because most people know very well that gambling depends on what I believe is just a matter of luck.

Gambling is 100% based on chance, no matter the strategy you apply, you can only win at the mercy of the casino house edge, and the chance of losses is plentiful than the chance of winning but in trading your success is dependent on your skills and not on the exchange, if you don't know how to trade or you don't have a good skill in trading, that's when your success will be based on luck but once you are an experience traders that have learned and master your strategies, you will win more trades than a gambler who is gambling based on luck and not skill.

There is no such thing for gambling and it can't be compared to trading. Some strategizing and good discipline can improve your chances and avoid catastrophic losses, but that is all that it will do. If you become lucky, you will earn a lot of money but only if you quit when you win it. In all other circumstances it is not going to work.

Yes because in the long run it is programmed so you slowly lose your money. The idea is to enjoy the process and not to try to become a winner.

First of all, the only thing that can be applied in both trading and Gambling is risk management asides from this whatever you do In trading doesn't work on gambling...the dynamics of both of them are completely different.. gambling is a game of probability so strategies are just a way to push your luck, trading involves a lots of things that can be put together and studied, their differences are more than their similarities

Gambling and trading both are different things and thus they can't be done in similar way. I know it's possible to have a strategy and increase your win rate but that works sometimes not all the times. If someone who's high leverage futures trader then I would say that the person isn't a trader but a gambler. So someone with a proper strategy can somehow increase his/her win rate but that's still different from trading.

Trading and gambling are very different. For a long-term return, trading requires technical knowledge and constant and often in-depth analysis. Gambling is pure luck, at most the analysis of some statistics for a sports bet, or strategy in a poker game (it does not guarantee victory, but it helps). I do not see how to relate the two and make it advantageous.

Nothing will change if someone will look at gambling the same as trading. That's just another justification trying to be found by a gambler to prove that they want to gamble more. The chance of success or winning really is unknown and it depends on the situation that we're in and if we're lucky on that time.

You just think of that but guessing the outcome of games while they're progressing, it's unlikely and it's only in our minds because the actuality is different.

You're absolutely right. Treating betting like trading with analysis, discipline, and proper bankroll management  can definitely improve long-term results. Live betting especially gives an edge if you know how to read the game in real time. It's all about reacting, not guessing.

If you treat trading like gambling, I don’t think you’ll be able to continue trading for a long time. We need real knowledge and skills in trading, unlike gambling where you can make a guess and bet on it, and still come up winning. Although losses are common between these two, but we can always navigate possible profits if we are skillful enough on our trades, and if we manage to control our emotions that are sometimes can be too hard with gambling.

OP, it's not always the case. I say this as someone that often bets on props as well as full time results and you are still open to losing prop bets as much as you get to lose your match results bet.. I think it ultimately depends on the game itself, your analysis and a splash of luck to smoothen it out. Another approach I tried to integrate some trading properties to gambling is thinking about odds in terms of % where 1.20 odds is 20% notional profit in trading.

Did it work? For a while.

The fundamental difference between trading and gambling lies in the approach and control of emotions. In trading, knowledge, analysis, and risk management are the main factor. While in gambling, decisions are often based on pure luck. of course both have the potential for loss, but disciplined and experienced traders can create opportunities in a profitable direction. While in gambling, we are unable to control to create it opportunity to win.

It could be useful in sports betting, but not in a casino where you have to fight against the house edge.
Yes, maybe you're right.
But I think it will remain just as unpredictable as trading, and there's no guaranteed profit in it.

If you treat gambling as a source of income, then you're making a mistake.
Gambling should be viewed as a form of entertainment or a way to eliminate boredom, not merely as a pursuit for profit or a source of income like trading.
Both are risky, but you can't compare them, it seems like you're comparing apples and oranges in that regard.

Gambling is different from trading hence we can't use the same strategy for the both of them. Doing the same thing as you use to do for trading while gambling can make you to lose because there's no way you'll be getting the same outcome as you used to do in trading when gambling. You can do the same thing repeatedly but yet it won't give you the outcome that you're looking for because gambling is all about you being lucky. Sometimes you can use your experience to work for you but still you'll need to be lucky to get it right. Gambling on the same thing can give you more experience and better understanding but still it won't guarantee you that you'll be winning anytime you gamble in that way.

Gambling and trading are 2 different things. You can't assume to have the same approach on them. Gambling mostly relies on the luck, meanwhile trading relies on the knowledge. If you really read many topics and join the discussions here, you must understand this.

Specific outcomes? What do you mean?
If you mean something like "number of goals" in the match, I think it is even more difficult to bet. It will be easier to bet which team to win or lose in the match.

You are definitely right, over the years, I have focused on betting on the end result of every match and this did made me not to be so profitable with sports betting, I lose more bets than I win and it sometimes makes me wanna go crazy.
But then, for the couple of times I've tried betting on some specific events happening in the course of the match while it's still ongoing, I have won and made some good profit, but unfortunately, I am not the type of person that stay around to watch sports matches, and as a result, I can't be opportuned or I don't have the opportunity to bet on live events unless I will be doing it blindly..

But again, let me also use this opportunity to point out that even this betting strategy does not guarantee constant winning and profiting, there always a high chance of loses when luck isn't on the bettors side.

Gambling can also include emotions, but it's the wrong side of it as if you don't control it. As compare to trading wherein there is no emotions because you based everything on the numbers and what we see in the line and what could be the potential in the future.

In gambling, it's hard to see what will be the outcome, it's the unknown and if we play just luck base games then we all know that everything is random. But in any case, there are also good gamblers like in sports betting wherein they just analyzed and bet based on what the data are showing to them. So they are also discipline although it's not a guarantee that they are going to win every time.

People have tried to come up with methods or so called strategies in gambling but they will never work for the long term because this is not 2+2=4 thing, that practice will make perfect - no, it is the opposite, because more you play the more you lose.

The casino will always be winning more than you, so your net profit is almost always negative.

If in the rare chance that someone wins big, they forget to cash out and they play again only to lose it. This hard truth needs to be swallowed before you start gambling.

How to treat gambling as trading? I never know that because trading is trading while gambling is gambling. But trading can become gambling if you can not analyze the market.

We don't know how big the chances of winning in gambling but you may lose big if you can not control yourself. There is no guarantee you can win in gambling but in trading, you have a chance to profit especially if you want to learn more about analysis.

You can guess the match for the winner but it still not easy to say that will be right. Placing your bet have two options, win or lose. So you should not think much about the result but try to enjoy your time in gambling.

Gambling is game of chance — what strategy, what sucesss in game of chance? While in trading, it's more like game of influence where events influence it, and you may be able to predict the outcome.


Casinos are not here you to give you free money, odds will reflect the ongoing match.

You start off wrong because you talk about gambling without distinguishing between casino games and skill games. Besides, with the tiny percentage of traders that manage to make profits in the long term, if you are not one of them, and from what you say in the OP you don't look like one, it will be difficult to make profit in skill games, even if you become profitable it will cost you a lot of time, I would say at least 6 months of almost daily dedication.


As the game progresses the bookies also adjust the odds.

Yes, I agree with the opinion you have given. There are many similarities between gambling and trading for risk management and some people combine and think of them together. Many consider trading as a risky gambling game but most of the arguments will make them different. The difference between these two mediums in terms of money management is in the application of these two mediums by experienced and inexperienced people. If you are an experienced gambler, then while taking risks you will apply strategies so that the chances of winning are more than losing. While trading, experienced traders apply money management to the financial decline or increase with the market situation and get profit within short period. Only similarities can be found in risk management and there are huge differences in other aspects.

Gamblers, especially addicted gamblers, will still try to find some workarounds and strategies to beat the casino, even knowing that it is impossible.
In my opinion, the only gamblers who can play long-term in the casino are those who have learned well to bypass other players. I'm talking about those who systematically get to the top of the various leaderboards, thereby profiting from the casino.

I disagree with you that gambling is mainly based on luck, gambling is not mainly based on luck yes there's luck in gambling so also trading and any other business or investment there's luck in a lot of things not only gambling, if you are a gambler and you believe gambling is just base on luck you will lose a lot of money, when it comes to gambling your experience and involvement in that sport matters a lot, it gives you 70 percent of your winning chance, take for example you bet on football matches only and you don't know anything about football you don't even know the strength of each team how will you win however if you know everything about football and you also know the strength of each team believe me or not you will win more than you lose, it is true that sometimes the weaker team wins the stronger but if you use experience you will bypass that, gambling is not mainly based on luck is based on how skilled, experience and knowledgeable you are in that particular sport you gamble on.

I don't understand what kind of game you have created another focus on? But believe it, both trading and gambling, people are winning and losing money. But only experience is needed in both. Without experience, you will not be successful anywhere, so in good and gambling, if you bet on a game, then of course you will bet on the difference between the two teams regularly, then of course there will be more chances of winning. But to create experience, you must keep an eye on the game you bet on regularly or in gambling.

Experience is needed in all fields, especially in trading, it completely depends on your experience and skills. In fact, nothing happens without skill, but in some cases we cannot ignore the matter of luck, for example, in gambling you must use your skills to choose the right team and place a bet, but the end result is never completely certain, sports are always full of unexpected situations, so you definitely need luck to win in gambling. And to sum up, I must personally consider gambling and trading as different in most aspects, in gambling, skill and luck are equally important, but in trading, the importance of skill is much greater.

Trading too is in some sense a gambling. There are even gambling sites that lets you choose whether the price of a coin would go up or down but there, you lose all of your bet when you are wrong. But there's not much aspects of trading on gambling itself.

The thing that differentiate between trading (spot) and gambling is you don't lose everything on loss, the price of coin might stay low but you can just hold it longer till it gets to profit. But that would not be the case for leveraged trading which is more similar to gambling.
So, trading can be taken as gambling but there's nothing a gambler can learn from trading.

Trading is not like gambling, it is very different. What you maybe want to say is that some people treat trading like gambling, so they rush to buy in some things without checking something or checking very little. In that case then yes trading becomes like gambling because you are not doing research and you don't know anything. You just hope that you will be lucky and hit the right trade.

Trading (spot & futures) is completely different when you compare it to the gambling. It requires you the mechanic like reading the chart, set SL/TP, aware about market's sentiment, etc. Totally different when it comes to the gambling, which is 100% rely upon your luck. That's impossible to implement trading's strategy in gambling.

However, it totally same when it comes to the binary. It's basically the same thing as gamble.

Good thought though but I don't think there's much difference with both of them, so there's a slight chance that it'll be positive because treating trading like gambling can only cause one to be addicted whereas no results to show for it mostly recording loses which no one will be proud of, better still it's appropriate to limits and control oneself.

No.

Trading and gambling are two extemely different things even though they have one thing in common: they both are speculative and probabilistic in nature, meaning subject to or involving chance.

But here is the thing:

Gambling casinos always include the house edge, which means that the chance the casino will win in the long term (betting many times in a row) is higher than the player winning. So if you make 100 bets, you can be sure the casino will eventually win all your money. Even if you had a winning streak in the beginning.

With trading it is completely different. There is no house edge and you can actually use probability to your advantage.

There are no such things as gambling strategies which work, but there are trading strategies that work.

In trading, you must need to at least have a prior knowledge how does it works so having a background and execution such as basic TA, market trends, market analysis is a must to know but in gambling all you need is to wage your money well depends on the game of course its hits different if you play with the sports betting this requires a knowledge and data about the team to have a higher chance of winnings. But most likely gambling has a higher risk you don't have an assurance you will win every roll and every bet you've made.

You may be talking about in - play or where the match is already ongoing and you are predicting a particular outcome on a very short time. But there is still no guarantee with short betting because those who thought that kind of betting is safe heaven are still complaining as they are losing too.

But are you regarding the other betting options like 1,2,x1,X2,gg, 1.5 etc as not being specific outcomes? they are.

However, trading is different from gambling. In trading you can use stop loss to mitigate your loses even where you reduced your risk but with gambling, once you have staked a bet you either lose completely or win. You don't change or stop your betting loses half way into the game like stop loss would do for traders.

Need is not the right word for this I think. Because many people trade without this, maybe even it is most people in crypto. It is the same with gambling. Some games do need knowledge and some strategies or skill like poker, but many people play it without any of that and then they wonder why they lose.

Not a good comparison for that. Gambling also has a stop loss, and it relates to your behavior. Once you lose an amount of money all you need to do is stop playing, that is your stop loss.

its a wise strategy to adopt in my opinion because a strategy in gambling could help to achieve profits that playing randomly will not provide.
Probably you don't need "trading" skills. You can have already good profit knowing basic stats and mathematic.
I would suggest to have a look on the various schemes online, some strategies are really useful if you are trying to "scalping" or to have "all green".

There are variety of gambling strategies but non has ever been assured to profer players long term success neither had their predictions been a reliable one to believe it is a sure.

Of course without only predicting which team will win or the game will end draw, there are still gamblers who bases on predicting what total of goals in both home and away would outcome.
That is... any team can win but the exact or equivalent goals have to be actualized. So also predicts what how many goals a team would score either in first half or full time of the game. But non has been a reliable that it would profer that success.

All being in the football games. So don't even compare the risks or strategies of trading to gambling because you won't make it in the long run.

Strategy in gambling? Perhaps, one way or another, everyone thinks that they have one, especially in sports betting. Just approaching bets without understanding who is playing and determining the probable chances is unlikely to work for someone who wants to win. Some knowledge, analysis, etc. are needed, and this can probably be called a strategy because everyone relies on their thinking. However, everyone's results are always different. Therefore, there is unlikely to be a strategy for betting. In trading, someone tries, but only some people succeed in this, and then only after going through experience, which does not indicate success.

Knowledge and analysis depend on previously available data or highlights of matches that have already happened and usually also how coaches determine their strategy and who players will play.
Of course, there are other factors that will affect the final score of the match even though according to the data analyzed one of the clubs will win, a stroke will also play a role.

And it cannot be specifically likened to trading because gambling has a different flow and is not like a fairly complex trade.

In the end, everything will indeed be based on luck, but that luck will also be influenced by how well they do a fairly detailed analysis.

You’re onto something, maybe. Both trading and gambling tell you that you are in control, until the moment you are not. It is the same story all the time. You pursue a feeling, or an insight: perhaps you can outplay the randomness, by watching carefully, or timing your entry. Micro-betting, like scalping in markets - act on the smallest indications. The game changes as you watch, so you react, then you adapt.

However, randomness does not care. It laughs, quietly, at patterns you think you’ve found. The edge (when it exists) in trading is either asymmetry, information, or patience. The gambling edge are never owned, usually borrowed. This "in the moment" plan you talk about sounds alluring. It is intimate, like reading the mood of the game. Sometimes you will catch a swing, a shift, a change in tempo, a sudden reversal. However, it is the mind that creates causality. What seems clear at the time is simply noise, most of the time.

People want to believe in skill, because luck terrifies us. We construct systems, rites, strategies. Sometimes it succeeds. Mostly, it doesn’t. But the pursuit? The hope? That’s where the fun (and the danger) lives.

Try it. However, keep in mind that the house is always counting your heartbeat, and the market never forgets the losses.

Your thinking is very reasonable and actually realistic in many ways.There are many similarities between betting on red and betting during live games. Just as a good trader can make decisions and scalp trades immediately after seeing the market movement, a skilled gambler has a much higher chance of winning if he bets in-game during live games.

But there are many uncertainties in the whole game. However, it is important to remember that betting is a game of probability and mind games. Just as a trader follows risk management, a gambler must play with a disciplined strategy so that he can do better than the rest of the gamblers. I think that betting like trading has a really high chance of winning.

In sports betting, I have seen some gamblers who like to place bets during live matches. Especially when a team's situation quickly goes from bad to worse, some gamblers place their bets. In this way, when the match becomes equal again, they re-bet in favor of their chosen team, thereby achieving good profits in terms of odds, which is not possible at the beginning of the match. Different gamblers have different strategies, which is why some people think that placing bets during the game will increase their chances of profit, but I don't think that is possible. Because we cannot predict which team will win until the end of some matches. In some live matches, we can get a good idea of ​​​​where the situation of the game will go. Although it is not 100% certain, it is possible to guess a lot.

I am not a trading expert, the few times I tried and was able to evaluate the basic functioning, I classified this type of activity as similar
to gambling.
Basically you "bet" on a different situation, namely on the market, you perhaps have greater control of the numbers but not the certainty of guessing the result.
As soon as I understood how it worked, which also requires a significant commitment and constant study of the market, I immediately gave up.
I much prefer to play a few games in gambling, at least I have fun and if I guess the result is immediate and only on luck!
But if you feel brave and adventurous, you could try and maybe give us your feedback, right?

Trading, in its essence, is also a form of gambling , but with much more control over your funds. However, that also means the stress level is significantly higher. When you're actively trading, it's almost impossible to fully disconnect from the process becouse you're constantly analyzing, studying the market, monitoring news, and learning.
In that sense, gambling is simpler, you can always step away, and nothing will really change during that time. But with trading, it's much harder to do that becouce the market can shift dramatically within minutes.

If the market situation changes dramatically while trading, it should also be part of your strategy. I am saying that if you trade, you should do it after seeing the volatile market situation. It is true that you are losing your money forever in gambling, but trading can temporarily lose your money but it will not be lost forever. This idea that trading is a form of gambling is largely not true. I think that by investing in reliable sources through trading, you can get the desired profit but in gambling even after a lot of analysis you can lose in betting even many experienced gamblers lose most of the time. One of the reasons for this is that luck is largely responsible for winning in gambling.

First you should know that trading and gambling are two different thing , yeah both are highly risky not gonna argue that but they are both different, gambling is mainly about luck but understanding of sport games can still add on your chances on making the right choice compare to those that don’t understand it and are gambling for the money alone not for the fun.

Trading in the other hand have to the do with mastering the market and having the right psychology (which is still applicable in gambling too) . Trading is a skill that one need to put in the work and time to mastered but in gambling no matter how you put in the work without sure luck you are still going to lose so in gambling luck and knowledge work together you just got to play it right and always apply good risk management on both (trading and gambling).

Yeah I think both gambling and trading are similar.

Mine was the example, I trade $2K and now my capital down to $1.6K, so I'm at loss. I gamble $20 and I lost it all. So it's the same, both are make me to lost money. :D

You're correct if we're talking about someone who gamble on slots or pre-match.

If someone bet parlay or play live games, they have to focus on that games because any decision would affect the results.

Trading results depend on your knowledge and skill. While in gambling, the results depend on your luck. If you are trading relying on luck, just like gambling, you will end up losing.

And if you are gambling using your knowledge and skill, just like trading, you still end up losing. Why? Because that is what is happening in both of them.

Gambling and trading are two different things that can never be compared. You just know about trading, but you never know the real life of being a gambler. Therefore, don't get confused and take the option you think you are good at.

Yes, people are often fascinated by this kind of wrong thinking, they consider trading and gambling as the same, but this is never correct, trading is a skill-based place, and gambling is a luck-based place, so are the two things the same? Never, people are achieving great success from trading by using their skills, but from gambling people are never able to profit as they expected. Because there is no need for any skill in gambling, in the case of sports betting you definitely have to use your skills to make the right decisions, but even then the end result always depends on luck. So trading and gambling should never be seen as the same, they are definitely two different things, so you have to decide to do anything with reality.

Everyone is having own view about few things here I am not agreed with your statement about trading here knowledge can work like works in gambling, but skills are not important even few can argument about this but still I am not going with this in trading or gambling.
Few members already give few good examples about this both are mostly depended on luck while trading is also depending on some situations where peoples can understand currently market can go down and up but in live gambling things are also same peoples can give their predication while watching game.
Trading and gambling are had few similarities because but few believe in trading lose is controllable due to stop lost or having suddenly check, but this has never been easy in gambling due to sometime sites never provide live options.

Gambling and trading are similar even though, one is based on skill and the other is based on luck because they carry similar risks. Trading is about predicting the market with tools, and you must also follow fundamental analysis and technical analysis to open a trade, with all these profits is still not guaranteed because a little mistake will wipe out your funds. Gambling depends on luck because you are predicging the future.

It's not about attitude. Trading is absolutely different. The thing is that the main differences from gambling are that price charts are available over time. There is no such thing in gambling, you never know what the results were before you sat down at the roulette or slot machines. And in trading, you can already draw conclusions about the current situation without making your move and risking money. This is important. There is also the influence of news and big traders, and in gambling everything depends only on luck.

I think that direct analogies between trading and gambling are hardly appropriate. It is much easier to get rich in trading, it just requires consistency and often you just need to hold some asset in a cold wallet for many years. Holding an asset in a cold wallet, for example, bitcoin, does not require any costs from you. Theoretically, you can hold an asset forever, or more precisely, as long as this coin exists. As for sports betting, they are more like financial derivatives, such as futures and options. These are instruments with time decay, for the possession of which you need to pay. In trading, there is no concept of a bet. There is an open position on the exchange, but it does not have time decay.

The odds are very low, and still, it’s not a guaranteed win, an unfortunate scene can happen that changes the outcome. Since the odds are that low, can you really persevere in watching every single game just to gain a small advantage with a low return? It’s not like others haven’t thought about this, of course, they have. But it takes patience, and patience is something most gamblers don’t have, especially when the return is small.

This is all complete nonsense that has nothing to do with reality. Do not mislead yourself, as this will lead to even greater losses. People come to casinos not only to earn money, if there is any at all, but also to have fun. Remember this fact. There have already been so many discussions of various strategies here, but none of them have shown a decent result. In the end, everything just merges successfully, as always.

You know we have gambling (casino games/slot) and we also have betting (sports and other live events), in sports betting you can have a good skill of making prediction and stand the chance to win more than a casino gambler, that's because some strategies can work in sports betting but can not work in casino game. If things could work the way you think, many traders would also try their trading strategy in gambling and make profit from it but I believe it doesn't work like that.

Yeah, they want it quick in gambling, and it's very far from trading, although both need some patience.

Still, I disagree that it can be compared with trading or even used with the same strategy. IMHO, there's a higher risk in gambling, and once the money is gone, it's definitely gone. In trading, you can save some of it somehow, although losses will still be there. Well, unless it's a scammy coin/project.

The risk is where it differs, and I actually understood it after playing a lot of gambling games. In slots, for example, you are blind and you will never see what is coming. In trading, you will somehow see when the value is falling, and you can hit a button to stop the bleeding.

If you are just guessing the outcome then you are just gambling and there's likely no difference at all.
When it comes to trading you are using your skills to get a probable outcome which can't be done in gambling since mostly provably fair.
There's no skill that can help you get a probable outcome for it since it is just random.
Hence, just keep gambling like you normally do and don't overthink.

Gambling is indeed similar to trading in some ways, but the two are also very different. In trading, you are not (usually) in danger of losing your entire deposit at once. You can end up with a profit and a loss. However, this will not wipe out your account.

Sports betting assumes that if you lose, you lose your bet. However, in my opinion, a lot depends on your analytical skills. Perhaps you really are able to predict the outcome of a match as information about the development of events comes in.

However, in both trading and gambling, we should always ask ourselves - what is your competitive advantage over other players. Unique analytical skills can be such a competitive advantage. However, do you have them? Are you not deceiving yourself?

Risk is in everything, nothing is risk-free, but every thing has different risks, the type of risk is different in every matter. Similarly, although there is risk in trading and gambling, the type of risk is definitely different, where we can reduce the risk by using our skills in trading, but is there any skill required in gambling? No, gambling depends only on luck, so the risk is definitely high here. Gambling is a completely unpredictable place, where there is no guarantee of winning and even the possibility of losing is more than winning in a casino. So the difference between these things should be understood well, in short, the reality should be understood, the person who sees gambling and trading as the same, he is definitely in the wrong mindset.

Trading is less risky since we all know BTC price is going up all the time. You may lose satoshis in trading but if you keep still you may still get them back even when you just hold your coins after losing.

Gambling is more risky. You can only avoid losing when you really go into the strategy that may work for you. And over time it won't work which you will have to stop and move on to another game.

how will you even think of something like this, that if people treat gambling the same way they treat trade that it will increase there chance of success, how? Because to my own best of knowledge gambling and trading have different mechanisms so there is no way you can treat them the same way, because gambling is typically base on predictions (forecasting the future outcome) that's predicting football matches, basketballs and some on how they will play, why trading is typically base on buying and selling of crypto assets within a short period of time either with an hour, a Day or in a week. Trading is base on analysis the market that to say (examining and interpreting date). Sincerely speaking if you treat gambling the same way you treat trading either you will keep gambling and losing or you will keep trading and losing, please if am wrong correct me and if you have been using this strategy and it's working for you please come and explain to us with prove on you have been using it and it's working for you.

Both gambling and trading have the same risk. The difference is that skill is involved in trading and luck in gambling. If you don't trade your coin and hodli, you are not a trader. Likewise, whoever gambles once in a year or twice is not a gambler. The best way to limit the risk in both trading and gambling is using only the amount of money that you can afford to lose.

There are similarities between the two but they are not the same. In gambling strategies, there is analysis before deciding to bet and in trading, analysis is also a fundamental factor behind traders making trades.
If people treat gambling like trading whether it will increase the chances of success, the answer depends on which angle.
In gambling, the system is more inclined towards casinos in terms of profits if accumulated over a long period of time.
In my opinion, it would be wise to look at both from a professional perspective.

In such way we can compare lots of things. The only common thing that you have to analyze situation/event and have some strategy. I try to imagine how to trade like a bettor or to bet like a trader and i can`t do it. I have some number of rules for betting, how to calculate bet size, odds, risks. I don`t see how something from trading can be used for it.
PS. One more common thing. In both ways you have to work hard to get profit.

Not all the time.But apparently,since the mechanisms and applicable  means are different, there lies the problem.What I understand is that,if people treat gambling like trading if it'll increase their chances of success depends on a simple personal level of assessment and attestments.One thing that is common here is that both requires a full house strategy, discipline and risks management.

He didn't mention a specific term, so it can also be for the short term but indeed that we have more chance this way. Also because casinos has a house edge and they are effective if a player stays long in the game. The phrase practice makes perfect is mostly just a phrase and it doesn't mean that we will always perfect what we do. Winning big in gambling can usually come rarely, so if it occurs, we should cherish it and not that we will only lose it again.

@OP, you are right about that. The only thing is that maybe the payout that you will get is going to be less now if you bet on specific stuff. But at least you end up winning, right? It is even better if you also enjoy the game genuinely.

Absolutely it should but people tend to go for things that favours them in most cases and again just as trading you'll have to understand all the ethics of the game to make sure you're at an advantage and leverage of being successful.in the other hand betting on specific options can be troubleshooting which is why one need to spread out bets between to get better returns.

It never works completely with that. If a gambler treats gambling as trading, they'd rather choose trading instead. But I say it was not the case where gambling and trading are the same. It's too difficult to increase our odds of winning in a game of luck. Unlike in trading, it is possible if we have enhanced our knowledge and skills. If many gamblers lose money, many traders do the same.

But why do some people choose to gamble over trading? Because it is not about money and chances, but rather about life satisfaction and wants.

you can compare anything you want but growing pineapples and trading don't share a lot of common things
gambling and trading have lots of things in common like bankroll management, the need of emotional awareness to perform well
how money is involved (you can earn or lose money, you have to lose some to make some)

many things

It would be hard to compare trading and gambling when it comes to chances of success. Gambling is based mostly in luck, whereas, in trading, you need knowledge and skills to gain profit. Though luck is a factor also but it is more on how well you know the market and strategies to gain profit.
People will connect these two, but when they do really execute a trade, they will understand the difference of gambling and trading. Maybe, someone needs to experience both for them to truly understand what can you do and not do when you face trading as well as gambling.

From trading in betting, you can apply the risk-reward pattern and observe it. Of course, in a global sense it will not give much, because in trading you trade with leverage and lose only a part of money, and in betting - the whole bet and here it is difficult to calculate the risk-reward, it should be at least 1 to 2, that in case of winning to cover the previous expenses.

The quick phase for both is there but gambling is quicker than trading.

There will be odds reason for us to hear if we go ahead and ask others why they choose to gamble. Others might say that they've lost in trading and maybe in gambling it will be recovered fast.

It's true that satisfaction is different in both worlds and it really differs per person why we choose gambling and treat it the same as trading.

In my personal opinion, this is a bit complicated. On the one hand, there are similarities between gambling and trading. But on the other hand, there are differences too. So, even if both have been thought out and analyzed well, the results of betting still cannot be expected to be completely won or not.

While on the other hand for trading, when you have a lot of planning, choosing the right coins for trading, and having a strategy with several plans for market conditions that suddenly change, then there is still a chance to get profits as long as the trading is really prepared carefully.

However, if it is not mature enough and there is no good understanding, well, the results must be the same.

Although there are many similarities between gambling and trading, we can differentiate between the two such as the amount of risk involved in gambling is much lower in trading by choosing the right coins. In both cases you have to be prudent because as you become prudent with money matters you gain experience and your chances of losing decrease. Trading is a matter of perception where you choose the coins to buy and how much allocation to push into your portfolio and for how long. My opinion on gambling is that especially when betting, analyzing the players and teams and being prudent can keep you at a decent level to win. Having fun with the risk of losing money and the expectation of winning are all things.

well there are always the scalpers
but you are correct
in general gambling will yield returns (or losses) faster than trading
but that's why it's more dangerous too because it can hook you up faster and be more addictive after all

satisfaction has way more variables than this but this one is an important thing to notice

Although strategy, discipline, and risk management are applied to gambling and trading, both still have different mechanisms. Trading can still provide opportunities to make a profit, but in gambling, making a profit or winning depends on luck and cannot be controlled like determining the expected profit in trading for the long term.

Many people have this kind of thinking, they think of trading and gambling as the same, but in both cases, there are many differences in the management of risks as well. In managing trading, we need skills and deep knowledge, we always have to make data-based decisions, we have to trade by adopting the right strategy through market research. All in all, we can reduce the risk a lot through various strategies, skills, research, which often brings us big profits with high potential. So despite the high risk of trading, we can benefit from trading in a dependent way through skills and research to some extent, but in the case of gambling, there is no such opportunity, so it is very important to understand this clear difference.

You use bankroll management in everyday life. It makes you trader or gambler? You can make emotional buys in everyday life, so would it help you to become a trader if you`ll stop it?
It is silly example. The same like yours.

I call it risk management, but may be that you call it better. It has something common but the same time it has serious difference. At least in my situation i can`t compare risks in one way.
As result i can say that we have some common tools, some common namings, but the way how we use it seriously differs. As result i don`t sure that we can use the same tools in the same ways. It is possible that we can convert our experience from trading to betting, but it doesn`t means that they are the same.

I can agree that in both gambling or trading you need to work had to get profit. However, in gambling, working hard doesn't guarantee you profit, because it always needs to have the presence of luck. Trading is different, as long as you are focused and updated, you will never ever lose that much like you lose in gambling. In fact, you can actually control your losses in trading.
Though gambling and trading are almost similar, but there are still differences that are notable that favors the traders.

There's a chance of winning at the 75th minute but winning isn't guaranteed because a change can happen at any point in the game, I have some experience with live games so I know what I'm talking about.... there's nothing sure about it, this means that you must be very careful with what you stake..even the 80th minute doesn't guarantee a win, there are instances where 2 goals are scored In the 90th minute

Maybe I misunderstood you by the terms you used, or maybe the terms don't just resonate with the topic. What do you mean by people treating gambling the same way they treat trading?

You could be right to some extent, but it all depends on the gambler's perspective in speculation; I've seen people lose even during live betting sessions. We all know what the game of football looks like. A minute could be riding with you so well, only to make a quick turnaround, ending your games in a ditch. Whatever strategies you know can be reversed in a thousand ways to fit another gambler's speculation -- always know this!

I think ultimately it's the same strategy, it's hardly risk management different from risk-reward strategy because the former implies the latter within itself. And it implies how we can best secure our deposit and minimise losses in case of any problems, because this is necessary in order to continue earning without any problems and increased risk.

How do you define "work hard" in gambling? Do you mean gambling more often or use more money? I agree that trading requires "work hard", you need to learn more to have better knowledge and skills. However, this way won't work well in gambling due to the "luck" factor. In gambling, you just need to gamble in a proper way and you enjoy the games. Even if you may sometime need to do a little analysis, but it doesn't mean to work hard. I am sure you won't learn the whole history of the clubs or the players whenever you bet on certain matches.

I think many people prefer gambling to trading because gambling has a plot. For example, if we talk about slots, they have a very beautiful interface and bets are very similar to travel. Each spin can lead to a turn where a treasure lies and at the same time there are multipliers that can multiply one bet by thousands of times, and there is nothing like that in trading. Except maybe in memecoins. No matter how many deals you make in trading, it is unlikely that any of this will increase your trading position by a thousand times.

Can working hard in gambling actually guarantee profit like in trading? For someone that is playing crash on any of the casinos, how hard or what good strategy can they enforce to become profitable? Do get me wrong, I know that in sports betting you can make analysis and try to work with some strategy that might never work 100% but for gambling like slot games, can working hard really do the good job? It can not, gambling is more dependent on luck than trading.

Yes, gambling is much preferable to trading because it can instantly make a player's future very good if he is lucky. Just like you are talking about slots for example, I have seen a few people who have won a lot of money by gambling quickly. Especially Crazy Time where there is a twist that can increase a thousand times and make a person financially independent in his life. However, very few people win in it but most people lose money, basically there are thousands of lucky people who can profit from gambling. However, since gambling can be a good slot but there is no such deal in trading that does not increase quickly and is not profitable, yes, memecoin increases but it is not for a long time.

Only a few people can win by playing slot games. Only those who are lucky can win some amount. Gambling is uncertain and at the same time the possibility of winning a large amount of money immediately but trading is also uncertain and there is no possibility of losing all your money so which one should you choose? The logic in choosing between such questions can be between the two. Here it depends on which one you are more attracted to. I choose and play most of the gambling because there is entertainment on this platform and the possibility of winning a large amount of money. There is risk in trading but losing money depends on your experience and prudence. Which coins you buy and in what amount and the time and strategy of buying are the chances of getting your future profit by researching each thing correctly but it spends more time.

Certainly, the joy of gambling cannot be found in trading. Those who trade will not get the joy of gambling, while those who gamble can get the joy of both trading and gambling. Although it is not possible to get it completely. In gambling, especially in live sports betting, the odds of betting change according to the conditions of the game. If some are lucky, they can get big rewards by placing a small amount of bet. On the other hand, those who are unlucky will lose. Big rewards with little money are not possible in trading. I do trading occasionally, but it does not give me any joy, but when I gamble, I enjoy that time very well for a while.

Some persons apply this strategy and it works for them smoothly gambling,  they have a particular game option they pick and whenever they sense a fixture has the potential to producing that option they go in all out with full margin and that gives then handsome returns when it favours them and because of their consistency on this particular pick, they now know how like they can see that working in their favour and so they win even more often than they loose betting on such options knowing they will win most often and make profits. For virtual sports game I do apply this strategy and some times even a team alone can get you rich, just following up with the statistical data of the team and whenever they eventually have the potential to produce your expected results,  you go in big and even with small odds you win something tangible having some level of assurance even if it's not 100%.

I think the understanding you have is incorrect op, OP. Don't equate trading and gambling, because they are completely different things in so many ways.
If for you they are the same, that's just you, op. And most people also won't agree with what you're saying.

Because trading is a type of business,s while gambling is a type of money management by some gamblers who want to rely on luck only through gambling.

I`m bad trader but good enough(as i think) bettor. And i often want to say that traders just lucky boys who just guess what to buy and what to sell. But i remember such words about bettors and think that traders know something that i don`t know. For me - it is possible to get result with hard working and if your brains are good enough both in trading and in betting.
PS. Random games - is just a joke, it is impossible long term winning here.

May be you right. May be it is because i`m bad in trading. But i easy work with risks and bankroll in betting and even can`t imagine how to use it in trading. May be only some common things - withdraw some money after good deals.



I`m talking about betting only. We can talk about profit in types of gambling where we can predict the result due to something(statistics in betting) or where we can influence the game(poker with bluff). Random games - easy way to lose money. It is not about profit or long distance. I only play slots with minimal bet sometimes, but it is not about winning, i even never withdraw money from it.

We should stop equating trading with gambling, because these are two different activities.
Trying to do what works in trading does not mean it will also be successful in gambling.
In trading, the goal is clearly to make money, but if you apply it to gambling, it is very likely to lead you to addiction or major losses.


If you mean live betting, this is also not a guarantee of win, you have to try it yourself so you understand how gambling is not something that can always be predicted correctly.

I also never agree that trading and gambling are the same, we see very simple and clear differences between them, which prove them to be very different in a very nice way. There are many differences between them in terms of research, in terms of skill requirements, in terms of the amount of risk, in all aspects. All in all, it makes no sense to see them as the same, gambling is completely based on luck, and trading is based on skill, so if you think that trading and gambling are the same, then this is undoubtedly your personal problem.

Of course in gambling, we could make use of similar strategies that may look like the ones we adopt for use in trading, but they are only similar to each other, some slight difference may also be seen in using these strategies, gambling is all about discovering for what is best for us as strategy, how we could use it and what is needed for us to put in place for a successful gambling in using it, this also calls to remind us to all have our own pattern to how we are gambling and the things we set aside as considerations towards the kind of game we are playing and the strategy in place.

When in slots, yes, I agree that it's very luck-dependent, in fact, it's 100 percent luck-dependent, and we don't know what could come up next. Strategy next exists in these types of games because it's based on the algorithm that was set by the slot provider. The only chance to win here is if we play it at the right time and receive that high multiplier that would probably make us totally happy.
The only question is how much we are going to spend before such a thing happens? I've seen in chatboxes of different online casinos where high-level VIP's have not even hit a max multiplier in any slots, so I guess they spent way too much and yet no high multiplier came.

Luck would be always the main determining factor on why people do win up on doing gambling whether they are that involved with casino games or with those sports betting. Gambling and trading are both different things on which it would be just depending on what you do really want to do. Trading is never been considered to be that a leisure thing and same goes for gambling on which this isnt considered for you to make it as a source of income on which trading could give. In speaking about strategies then you cant be able to apply any strategy in gambling for you to make use in trading on which it will be needing up with that different approach. There are those times or moments that you might commit out some mistakes but its never been that recommended that you should be thinking up on this way. Gambling is just that only for fun and entertainment and trading is just that good for long term approach on making income or making a living with it but of course its not something that you can be able to learn in a short period of time or simply it do takes time. It would be that impossible that you cant be able to determine the difference.

Out of curiosity on which you are trying out to make some use of some gambling strategy on trading then you try it but you should be doing this for the sake of curiosity and wanting to prove out for yourself that neither it works or not but pretty much sure it wont be that applicable because both things are different. There are just that those times that if things doesnt work then you would be testing out another approach on which its normal but once you had proven it out and it shows it doesnt work then never ever tend to force it out to work because it will be just that making you have that deeper loses. In conclusion then its not that good on making things to be that on similar for you to deal and treat it out. Make it sure that you would be having that separation in both things if you dont want to have that messed up application when it comes to strategies. Its never been the same no matter what angle we do saw, its just that trading could become gambling if you wont be putting up analysis into it.

What about non traders, they don't know any trading strategy but they gamble with whatever pattern they know and like the usual gambling ways, they make profit based on luck and losses is surplus. I do trade and for the trading strategy I know, non works with gambling because if you are not lucky, you won't get any winning because gambling is not a respecter of any strategy.

And this is what makes gambling and trading completely different, a trader always makes trading decisions by analyzing the market, managing risk and determining the right strategy according to the market situation, whereas a gambler only depends on luck and presses a button. So, these differences should be kept in mind, and one should not expect too much from anywhere just for profit without understanding the reality. Without luck in gambling, nothing can be achieved, and without complete skill in trading, you cannot be achieve profit.

I disagree, though. There little characteristics which gambling and trading have in common and it has been proven that gamblers are inherently bad traders.
In gambling, the only specific factor which can be controlled by one is bankroll, hence the importance of having a good bankroll management.
On the other hand, while we go and partake in trading there are literally dozens of statistics and signals in the market we can use to try to predict what is going to happen next and adjust our strategy accordingly, if someone is skillful enough to read the candle graphs and have also a good management of their risk and bankroll, then they can become a very profitable trader in the long term, that is something which cannot be said about a gambler, since all gamblers (or the majority of them) will lose money to the casinos in the long term, thanks to the house edge, because there is no skill or patterns to be followed, unlike trading.

Cmon, it is impossible to equal random games and profit. Trading and betting are about skills and hard work. Random games are about luck. But even luck is for 1-2 games. No strategy, no long term, no influence, no analyze. Random games only for fun, we can`t discuss it seriously with such terms as strategy and profit.

Actually gambling and trading have unprofound similarities such as risk taking, emotional control, and bank roll management which are essentially surface-level resemblances because they are anchored by drastically dissimilar systems on the surface. When carried out in a proper way, trading leans heavily on the analysis, knowledge of patterns and responding to real-world events, whereas gambling tends to involve chance games of a predetermined payoff skewed against the player most of the time. I believe the largest distinction is that trading presents an opportunity of having a predictable advantage in case you are well-informed and have self-control. However, gambling, in most instances, always has an advantage over the long run to the house.

it's totally different
now, have you tried dancing?
if you get good at contemporary dancing it will help you to dance Tango, even if just a little bit
if you're deep into math and advanced physics you're going to be better at marketing campaign budget optimization
and probably if you know how to build bridges this makes you better to build rockets, somehow

skills are not sitting inside boxes, they're alive and connect to anything else

Gambling is not as simple as you think. But if you gamble for fun and throw your money away, that's probably what you're doing.
I agree that gambling and trading are different. But in some aspects, some may consider them the same. There are even traders who feel addicted to trading. That makes trading also have a negative view. I think I've come across a thread discussing that here.

Gambling isn't so simple, but it isn't so complicated either. Slots, crash, hi-low, etc, are more than simple. Card games and sportsbook bets aren't. Trading, on the other hand, has gambling elements, but it isn't simple at all, and it isn't considered "gambling" in the general term. Even if you are addicted to it, it isn't the same. Gambling will always have a negative impact cause it's based on luck, and that clears it all.

In gambling, no strategy really works, this is the reality and gamblers have to start gambling with that in mind. Gambling for fun is actually less likely to become addictive if the gamblers can control themselves. And in trading, strategy is very useful. If you have market knowledge and skills, it is possible to take good advantage of the market. But those who consider trading as a means of earning money quickly actually treat trading like gambling. And in an attempt to earn money quickly, they become addicted to trading, just like gambling, so of course, addiction in any sector is dangerous.

It seems like you are not a gambler, or I will say you haven’t staked a bet yet. That is why you think you can use strategy in gambling. One thing you need to know is that gambling is not all about football or sports in general. There are other casino games like slots, dice games, card games, and others. In such games, you can’t use strategy to win.

Let’s take card games and football as a case study. In card games, when playing, you won’t know which cards the rest of your opponents have. You can’t say it will be easy for you to use strategy to win, or that you can decide how to win once the game has started.

Even in football, some games start one way and end differently. You can’t do the same thing in trading and gambling, because these are two different things, and you can’t use the same strategy for both. That is just the fact.

Yes, there are different types on which a strategic based ones and something that fully relies with luck or simply with those casino games on which we know that there's no strategy that would work into it. Those common ways or strategies are just that being used for it to prolong the gambling session but it doesnt mean that it would be giving out that guarantee of success on which you would be needing up to consider it out. On sports betting and some card games then skills and knowledge will be that relevant but still it would be that needing up that mix of luck for you to be able to win up the game. In speaking about strategy in trading to be applied in gambling then you shouldnt be thinking of this way because it would be that totally different thing or you would be needing up that different approach too. If you arent that good when it comes into gambling or simply just that being your first time and trying out to apply any strategy then for the sake of curiosity whether it do works or not then it would be that up to you but just like been said that it wont be giving out that kind of advantage or assurance that you would be able to win up or becoming profitable with gambling. Always make it sure that you wont be finding yourself that being optimistic or somewhat being that positive about making money on which we know that it cant be just that possible or easy because everything matters on luck and we do know that main rule and something that you should be that realizing on. Gamble for fun and those strategies being used is just that to prolong the gambling duration or session on which just like been said that this isnt that for you to make money with it or having that assurance to making money. If you are that curious then you can always that have the plan on testing it out whether it works or not as long you are that contented or being convinced if you are that persistent on trying out to do then it would be that up to you but just like been said that dont expect too much so that you wont be that disappointed at the time that it didnt hit up your expectations. Usually people do expect too much that they would be having that advantage but on the moment that it do happens then they do become that impulsive later on which if they had just that been sensible into the things that they are dealing to then they wont be finding themselves that being too desperate.

When we talk about betting strategies, they are different in applications to that of trading, they have have similarities when it comes to how we call them, but using them may come in on a different context because they are not the same and shouldn't be treated the same way, trading is something that always have to do with our investment abd we can't afford to lose while on trades, while gambling approaches could go along with the particular game we are playing at that moment.

You are right that gambling can have negative effects if you are not in control, but some gamblers stay positive in their resolve and seek entertainment to forget about losing. There are elements of gambling in trading, some traders may apply it and consider it a success instead of a failure, but you should think long term. Both trading and gambling should develop long term thinking.

It is a misconception that gambling is like trading. There are different types of gambling games where you cannot guarantee your winning by using your strategy. If you use some common strategies while trading, you can keep yourself safe in many ways and make small profits easily. That is, by trading coins like Bitcoin, SOLANA, BNB. If for some reason your prediction does not work and their price decreases after investing, then simply holding them for a few days will bring them back to that price and you can make a profit. But if the prediction is wrong in gambling, there is no chance of getting the money back from there. Loss in gambling means the entire bet money is lost. Therefore, gambling and trading cannot be considered the same in any way.

I just remember myself and I think that I was more drawn in, so gambling drew me in more and I wanted to come up with strategies, but my bankroll was not enough for me to try everything. I often violated various things, because I wanted more here and now. In trading, I took trying strategies more seriously, I did not want to do wild things like in gambling. Probably because the pictures and music influenced me in gambling or something else, maybe I wanted to prove to my friends that I am better at betting than them. In general, at the moment I am keen on studying trading strategies, not gambling.

You have a nice point, which is also the same as what I was trying to explain to OP. However, if you had taken your time to properly construct this post, it would have been more unique and would also capture the interest of readers, helping them understand what you’re trying to explain.

But the way you posted it, it may not capture the interest of some people, and that means the information you are trying to share might not reach them, as the writing is too congested and hard to understand.

Gambling is actually strategic because you will need to be actually be very serious when it comes to gambling you will need to be very serious you will have to take things more seriously because when you start enjoying Bitcoin you will know it can easy to get addictive because gambling can be fun when you are making money, trading and needs strategy and gambling depends on luck even when you are good in prediction you will still need luck.

When you are trying to compare the two then you are only complicating things so it is better to just do things separately because gambling if you should lose your money they there is no way that you will get your money back and trading have similar features.

So even when you are gambling there is need to be very careful of what you are doing so that you don't over do things because gambling can be very dangerous is it is not properly controlled. The experience of people are not a good one all because they did not control there self well.

I always say that when it comes to gambling there's no such thing as professionalism but I'm trading this is something that's possible to have. Gambling deals with a lot of uncertainties but the financial market has a lot of rules and principles that needs to be studied for you to attain a long term profit. The strategies used in gambling cannot be used to trade because there's a difference between them

I don't think gambling can be learn but I can assure you that gambling games can be learn and probably skills to make bet, how to manipulate options in your favor and do all it takes to win to make the money you can at that particular time. The book about gambling you will see online is addiction and how to avoid gambling addiction but you will never see any strategies because they are not confirm. If there is are ways, the casinos would have change things so it doesn't work.

Trading isn't gambling, it's involved risk just like the way you make other businesses and investment but you see gambling, you are doing extra risk. You can decide to trade now and make some loss and decide to close the remaining trade to cut down your loss but you can't cut your loss in gambling, once you loss then you have loss all the money unless your are doing futures, that's another level of gambling I'm yet to understand why people engage in it.

Anyone that treat gambling same way that trading is treated is on his way to recording the highest negative event of their life and this negative event will affect their financial life significantly in most cases, since gambling is a game of chances, but crypto trading has to do with strategy and some level of skills.

Exactly , that is the thing most folk need to know that trading is far different from gambling. Trading can be seen as gambling when one is not well skilled , rather just following the rule of buying when is low selling while is high we all know that is not that easy as it seems , because sometime you can buy when the price is down and the price will go down more. So just like you said there’s principles one need to follow when come to trading in order succeed .While in  gambling deals with a lot of uncertainties, that’s folks usually imply that gambling is base on luck .

Strategies in gambling are nothing but myths. Who in their right mind would consider doubling their bet after each loss a strategy that can make them profit, considering that one can face a loss streak large enough to make them lose a million dollars with this pattern? We shouldn't call betting patterns strategies because they are not. We only change the pattern that we use for making our bets; it doesn't involve any planning, studies, research, or anything like that, and that's not how a strategy works. When you apply a strategy in something you are doing, it involves knowledge, statistics, experience, and studies that prove that what you are applying will mostly work.

In trading, people spend years studying the market and its patterns, they study candlesticks and how they indicate movements, they study coins and their histories to know how they generally behave in certain market conditions. There is none of that available in gambling, because all you need to do is decide how much you want to bet, and press a button to see the outcome, you either win or lose everything based on your luck.

Seeking entertainment does not mean ruling out risk in this case, precisely when gamblers make this as entertainment, they understand the risks and understand the consequences of their losses, therefore they realize they are losing but they also know that the defeat they feel is a sure thing and they are not a problem with the defeat because they are ready to lose it because what is pursued is pleasure. In the sense that they know that the defeat they feel is certain to happen and it doesn't matter to lose because it doesn't have any impact on them considering they are ready to lose it.

Maybe the concept is the same as trading in terms of risk but on the other hand this also cannot be equated as a whole in its meaning because after all trading is still trading where it is not looking for luck and pleasure alone in contrast to gambling where pleasure and luck always have greater control.

If they are responsible gamblers - then winning and losing will not make much difference. Everyone knows the risks and they also know that the money they spend gambling can be lost completely - but illusion, desire, hope, wishful thinking are what make a gambler continue to gamble his money without thinking twice.

The concept of trading and gambling is different - both involve the risk of losing money, the way they work is very different. You bet money on a selected game with a payout rate set by the provider in the hope that you will win, but the profit and loss from trading activities depend heavily on market activity. Both may hope to make a profit - but you must know what the most fundamental difference is between these two activities.

The biggest obstacle here is that gambling and trading are not the same. Otherwise, if it were so that you could achieve a constant profit by gambling through analysis, then the matter would be different. But here the result of gambling will completely depend on your luck whether you win or lose.
On the other hand, if you can do good analysis in trading, you can make it a career and earn a reliable amount of income in the long term. And it's pretty much guaranteed that if you treat gambling like trading, you will fail.

Here is the common problem between us that most of the people we just interconnected the trading and gambling.
But we don't even try to understand that where a things fully depend on luck and the others and another one is depending on your technical skill as well the experience in the market.

I am talking about the gambling and the trading. If you think that trading is also like the gambling then you are in the wrong thought I have already said that trading is depending on your  technical skills as well on your experience, but it is true that if you want to do trading without these skill and experience it is also like the gambling.
So in my own opinion, I will say that if you should treat trading like gambling, you will never be successful as well if you treat gambling like trading you will never be successful.

You can't compare the risk in trading to the gambling, all things have their own on laws or rules and regulations,  someone that have $5 can stake on bet as a beginner in gambling,  but someone's can't trade with $5 and even though you trade with it, you will not make a reasonable profit because the capital is too small, and in trading the higher the capital use in trading the higher the profit in trading, that's one of difference between trading and gambling,  and in trading expensive concentration is required, why in gambling you don't need much time, the time you have to spend is to book your book for team that will lose or win

And gambling, of course, does not need to be considered as a place where you can come again and again for earnings, because this place has been created just the opposite to make a profit from players. In trading, trading floors also receive a commission, but at least a trader can do everything so competently and manage his risks that in the end it can give a plus. Although I once heard the expression that 2% of traders can only earn in the long run, but I think that among the players this percentage is several times lower, it may be ten, but this information must be checked.

Both of them are supposed to be approach equally with only what we can afford to lose because they are highly involved with a lot of losses. Though, there is no specific options that can easily guarantee you winnings in gambling, is always a game that luck plays a significant role.

However, going into gambling with such thought would definitely result to more losses at the end of day. Because the chance of winning is very slim while the chance of losing is very high, so the best way to overcome frequent losses in gambling is by viewing it as an entertainment or having fun.

And you should definitely keep these things in mind and then decide to gamble, the final and sure result of gambling is loss, at the end of the day you will definitely lose. So in the end, you should only see gambling from the perspective of entertainment and follow all kinds of restrictions. If you can control yourself, you will always be safe, because most of the time you will have a high chance of losing, so if you continue to gamble more emotionally after losing, its effect will be very negative.

In such way everything is connected with everything. Your dancing will improve your marketing campaign budget optimization. And it will improve your prediction skills. And it will make you better football player.
As the result we can compare growing pineapples and trading.

Trading is trading, and gambling is gambling. Two different things with two different approaches as well. If you think that gambling is like trading, then I don't think you are a gambler.

However, if what you wanted to say is about risk, then I believe you are right, as both of them carry high risks. But I think the point here is that whatever strategy we use in gambling, it is only for gambling. It was not suitable for trading. You should have cleared your mind and understood what you were actually doing.

That's why I think gambling will never be the same as trading. In some ways I agree with OP that there are some strategies in gambling that are the same as trading. But the same does not mean the same as a whole. Gambling and trading are in different universes. In gambling there is no such thing as income for gamblers. I am one of those who do not believe that gambling can be a source of income. That's why gambling cannot be done by everyone and the slogan often appears gamble wisely. But for trading it can be one way to earn income in the modern era. Even many people are successful at a young age because they understand the strategy in trading.

I thought so too, but then I watched a program where the main presenter was talking about an addicted guy who gambled away all his money on the cryptocurrency exchange. And the most amazing thing is that this guy was telling this presenter that trading is the same as a casino and I started laughing because it is obvious that this is not true. But at the same time, it is very difficult for me to argue that trading is not gambling.
After all, if someone is only looking for adrenaline in such hobbies, he will see a real casino in the exchange. For example, he will place options as if he were tossing a coin.

My experience in gambling usually I do not need an in -depth analysis or strategy of gambling victory I often experience based on luck or hunch, The fact is that in the field that I often experience in gambling, I produce randomly, it is difficult to gambling in general predictions as well as the results are uncertain.

While the general trade that I have done is based on market analysis, strategy, skills and knowledge, so overall gambling and Trade has different activities, can be said to be luck and analyst, both activities will never be the same.

The last time that I checked, majority of traders are losing but they come to the public to deceive people that they are making profits. Trading is not as easy as you think and it can make you lose big due to little mistake. Gambling is based on luck and not skill, which is the only difference from trading. The end can be of the same result.

it can be compared but it is not completely the same

a lot of what happens in gambling is driven by luck but trading is not, you can basically make your own luck when it comes to trading but in gambling you just have to accept what you were given because there is no other thing you can control or change

i guess some gamblers want to compare gambling and trading because they want to believe that just like traders they can use gambling as a source of income and "win" by using a specific strategy

Gambling and trade seems similar because it all comes down to risk and loss, the system is different for example trading when the market is favorable is different from gambling skills. There’s no favorable time given when a person should play bet rather it depends on luck, in terms of betting mostly when it has to do with soccer figuring the outcome is hard even when playing a live bet besides anything can happen when involving two strong teams and considering this part what should we expect such gambler to do meanwhile trading can be a little easier, the market price movement is unpredictable yet we can decide to take a break.

To be honest, I will take the sentence that gambling and the trading as the same only if when a person who intends to trading even he have the zero idea about trading analysis. Because in this case, there is no difference between the one who is trading or the one who is gambling. Both are investing money depending on luck, just thinking that they will book a profit.

What you said that 2% of traders can earn in the long run has no basis in fact, but even if we assume that 2% of traders continue to make profits in the long run, there is no record of any percentage earning in the long run in gambling.  And that's why gambling is different from trading, and trading strategies will never work in gambling.

Yes, and one of the things that must be considered is that in trading strategies do work, in gambling they don't. In gambling you can apply the best strategy that can be invented, but if there's no luck, then there's nothing to do, you don't win. In trading, strategies have a lot to do with a good understanding of the market and reading the volume. Whoever is clear about that knows how to differentiate very well between the two activities.

What is always a problem is that they are actually aware that defeat is likely to occur but they cannot control themselves including the financial management problems they feel which makes it a little difficult for them to avoid because they start to forget the attitude of responsibility that they already have.

Not a few people realize that gambling is how luck takes a role but not a few of those who are aware are also always trapped in the same pattern where emotions always make them destroyed in the end.
This kind of condition is difficult to avoid which makes situations that should be easy to do even more difficult.


That's what I want to emphasize although the risks may look the same because they are related to money but of course in any case there is no similarity in this regard so we cannot generalize that trading and gambling are one in the same because in the end the conditions remain different.

No, it won’t increase their chances of success because gambling is a game of luck and not base on skill or knowledge of the market as trading is. Trading has been proving more not to work on luck unlike gambling that works more on luck.


This is actually okay, but it’ll only make them have little or insignificant win base on the odds provided for that particular game. If they tend to have big win with playing just one game, then they’ll have to risk more than what they can afford to lose and if the bet doesn’t go in favour of them, they’ll lose big in such game.

Just to remind you that gambling relies on luck, while trading relies on strategies and skills. Of course, analysis is quite important in sports betting, but still, this never guarantees winning. In fact, we are putting our bets on our favorite team because we believe they could win, but guess what? Not all the time do they win.
It is simple: gambling should be treated differently for the reason that strategies give less while luck matters the most. We can be good at trading if we are going to work hard, but in gambling, no matter what we do, only luck can decide.

I think different gambles requires different expectations that is why someone playing casino will be expecting to win via luck because that is what play the dominant role in that aspect of gambling. On the contrary, someone betting on sportsbook will have to do extensive analysis to be able to select the most probable option. Such person will not rely entirely on luck since the wise analysis will help increase the chances of winning. The understanding of the two scenarios I explain is what will help in building the strategy needed to succeed.

I would be glad if gambling was so similar to trading that elements of trading would appear there. First of all, of course, I mean the price curve. The presence of a price curve in stock trading creates the prerequisites for the existence of technical analysis. To tell the truth, in some forms of gambling, those that exist on prediction platforms, there are primitive charts. In addition, the presence of time decay does not allow us to apply full-fledged analysis to these charts. And the presentation of data on this curve is primitive. There are no Japanese candles, no ability to switch the chart to logarithmic mode, no metrics and indicators, no ability to build a chart on a different basis, and so on. As soon as such elements appear in gambling, I will probably quit trading and focus entirely on gambling.

Trading is much more connected with the skill-based outcome, whereas gambling is much more about the luck-based one. To be successful in trading, good knowledge about the market, analyzing ability, trend change, and various other parameters needs to be known. With gambling, not much expertise is required. Strategy in trading means long-term growth, whereas with gambling overnight richness is the expectation. So, by all means, the difference will play a big role, unlike the strategies applied to trading and gambling. With gambling everyone can't turn successful, whereas with trading one can improve himself, learn, and take a better position in the long run.

Strictly speaking, in conditions of perfect competition, it is almost impossible to be successful in trading. This is due to the fact that none of the participants in the trade has a competitive advantage. In conditions of modern competition, all information about the market is available to all users. In this respect, trading in a market of perfect competition is similar to gambling. In gambling, none of the players has a competitive advantage either, this follows from the mathematical theory of probability. It is possible to be successful in trading if we are not talking about a market of perfect competition, but about a market in which manipulations by large players are present. In such conditions, one of the players can really unravel the secret of this manipulation and thereby gain a competitive advantage. Theoretically, this is also possible in gambling, if there is manipulation on the part of the organizer of gambling. However, this possibility is more theoretical than practical.

depending on the game it's not pure luck too
one thing is playing slots but if you are playing other games you'll at least decide position size (how much of your bankroll you'll use each time you bet), how often you bet, when you stop, what is your risk appetite (are you gambling with all your funds or with 1% of your spendable monthly income?)

these factors will vary a lot from person to person and will define if a gambler is succesfull in the long run or not.

Gambling to be treated like trading, to me this sound sarcastic because there is no combination or connection between the two.


One can be sure to make profits from trading applying the right strategy, but we can't do same with gambling since gambling is a game of chances and lucks.

Sometimes it is more likely that you will get  the right prediction while the game is on but sometimes it depends on the game because not what you think on a particular game will happen just because they are playing in a way you think you can be able to predict correctly. The end will always justify, I have played game several times when they are on and the people I played in favor of was winning with 2 goals and they have more possession and everything than their opponent and before 90 minutes the team that was losing were now winning the game and was even in charge of the game ( possessing). However, no option is favorable and everything still remains luck.

There are two different things join together and people don't usually know that gambling is not trading but most times we often see it as gambling, although they are, it's due to what have they experience over the past years. Gambling only posses the risk aspect of trading since both are so volatiles and you can't be that sure or factor out what exact result could be along the line after the match might have ran to an end..
In trading you can set stop lose, take profits and whatever but you can't do that with gambling, immediately you stake there are chances to win or lose but you can't terminate your current running  games if you haven't been giving the cash out option.

Gambling is different from trading and you can’t treat them the same in all aspects, even though they have some similarities in common. Similarities like only using the amount you can risk to lose in a trade, not over trading or over gamble, having patient, not allowing greed to also overcome you. Trading is more likened to the knowledge you have about it, only that will determine how well you can win. As for gambling, it is a game of luck, so there is not way a game of luck when treated in a way that a game of knowledge works can make your chances of winning very high. They are different in that aspect, so don’t think of it that way. But employing the same characteristics features in gambling that are similar to that of trading in your games, it would reduce the risk factor to the nearest minimum you can take.

Gambling is a game of probability and trading is based on changes or movement in the market. Even though they have some similarities technically they are not really the same. Applying the same strategies in gambling to trade would only make lose. Remember that anyone can gamble without having understanding anything but not everyone can trade. Their differences outweighs their similarities by far

Mind you that the cash out option is only available in sports betting and that's not the only part of gambling, I would rather say that sports betting might be the safest form of gambling because in sports betting, your knowledge, experience, and skills for analysis might keep you profitable in the long run, but other than that, all forms of gambling are totally different than trading because they are all totally dependent on luck, take gambling games and lotteries as an example.

Someone who plays gambling games can never say that they can be compared to trading because they are nowhere near one another. In gambling games, you basically choose the amount you want to bet, and press the button, that's it. You will see whether you've won or lost immediately and the results are completely random, generated through algorithms.

In trading, your knowledge and market understading can make a lot of difference in how much you are going to make or lose.

Well I don't know if this method could work in trading because I have no idea about how trading works, beside I have never heard about live trading before. But in gamble one can easily bet on live event, and yes betting on live matches can increase our chance of winning because you can easily trace the outcome when is live, and I think if this method can be apply in trading I'm pretty sure that alot of people would have been constantly profiting from trading, But I still doubt it if there are people who are constantly profiting from trading.

Okay just imagine where this is only available to sport game and not that it reflect to other section of the games/casinos except the game ran to the ending and you know that results is out before you could believe that truly you win or lose, their emotion will get touched because not every gambler can accepts and determines what amount they gambling with if actually that is what they budgeted to gamble for the day/week.
And of course knowledge is what mostly flows in while trading, and a trader who knows what they are doing can one day merged together to produced a meaningful outcome, because there are people who so much believed that they can get rich quickly while trading.

Even in trading people do lose, there is statistics that says 80% of the over persons trading are looser while only 20% are profitable traders and that’s similar to what is happening in the gamble. Even if gamblers try to use strategic gambling ans remains discipline to their strategy it will only limit the amount of loses as compared to a regular gambler who just wakes up and start gambling until he exhausts his bank roll, then regrets for gambling aggressively. The only thing I think gamblers should emulate from trading is risk management most traders are very good with risk management and that’s the reason their loses don't make them panic to enter even a more aggressive trade.

The idea of using a strategy in gambling is not to prevent loses, but to improve the probabilities of winning and to retain more of your money. It does work, assuming what you are using is a real strategy and not something made up or flawed. Those who say that it does not work are just writing stupid stuff. It is like saying that you can win in poker without knowing anything or having any skill. It matters a lot whether you understand the game and strategies or not, otherwise it depends only on dumb luck. As most of the gambling losers know, luck is not friends with many people.  ;D

I honestly don't like but I think that's exactly the point... it has more relevant the bettor's profile than with what is better or worse, more profitable or not, etc.... I'm a person who likes to analyze games in advance, place my bet and let it happen, I can't deal with presure or take quick actions... I need time to think, plan and place my bets rationally.

But, for those who think otherwise and do well with this type of bet, I think its good because when bet in real time you already have concrete information about the team real performance, the game's tactics, the pace, and injuries, etc... you can identify value and opportunities in bookmakers that haven't adjusted their odds yet and profit it from that.

And also the options are much greater... you can focus on smaller and more attractive markets like the next corner, the next foul, offside, etc...

Anyway... I respect those who can play this way, but I admit that it isnt for me.

Success will always be there, it depends on how you observe the game, be it gambling or trading, you look like a fool before you jump into gambling, you must have observed it, right? that gambling you can't just get out when you play it, there are rules in the game that you must obey if not, it means you lose the game, it's different with trading if you get a profit you can get out anytime you can by setting it yourself.

You need a long enough experience in trading to really produce to know the knowledge or insight into market volatility by studying various techniques. Not with gambling by observing the game for a while you can find out how to play and overcome it in this case I prefer games in the form of skills like poker.

Yes, people should understand these clear differences between these things, trading and gambling are never the same thing, but those who have such a mindset that trading and gambling are same, they will definitely always face losses and disasters. To be successful in trading, you need market analysis, technical knowledge and strategic thinking, and if you do not know everything related to trading, then you cannot expect good results from it. So there is no point in comparing gambling with trading, where the two things work in completely different ways, so these things must be understood.