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It would make a lot of sense since most of us are on there.

Relevant threads on the forum:

bitcointalk on telegram (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1664409.msg16710127#msg16710127)
Bitcointalk Telegram Group (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3229371.msg33609516#msg33609516)
Official bitcointalk telegram channel (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2737607.msg27994597#msg27994597)

Some are a bit spammy, but these were the only topics I could find on the issue.

To avoid issues with inactivity, I think a moderator would have to create it.

Then what is the essence this forum was created if there should be a Telegram group? We do not need it. People that wants to communicate with each other just as people have groups on Telegram can communicate directly here on this forum. This forum serves the purpose that a Telegram group can serve. It is even better here.

This is a good idea, and I think it would be of good importance to the community to say, but I was thinking if it would not pose a security threat when it comes to the channel being hacked, as it would be a major focus because of the huge number of traffic it would gain from members of this platform.  The telegram seems more porous to criminal activities compared to this platform, where everyone can be able to publicly say their mind and get a response immediately, compared to the telegram platform. However, I believe the positive side of having a Telegram account would be of good help to the community.

Telegram has a reputation of being a haven for scammers and since scam is not moderated on bitcointalk you can imagine how it’s going to be when we have an official bitcointalk channel on telegram. Scammers would jump on the opportunity to scam newbies of whatever crypto they have in their wallets.

It's actually a fine idea but the reason for the forum already beats the need for a telegram channel aside that there are a lot of decentralization enthusiasts on the forum that don't even make use of telegram. The forum has sufficient board for a vast discussion of things including off topic discussions for the off topic board. I can remember the forum having a Twitter account but has been inactive for years now.
I think there were some discussions about twitter saying they would bring down the account though. If a channel of such is created it's only a matter of time before same thing happens.

You took these words right out of my mouth! I was just about to say that if such a thing gets created, while the aim of it being created would be achieved, there's always a possibility for it to invite those shady fellows who would want to scam users and the newbies would be the easiest victims because they may not be able to easily identify them as scammers unlike how it's done here so I really don't see the need for a telegram group.

Telegram group or channel is good and ok, but i think the forum here is in more ways better than what telegram could handle or achieve, also, if we are to look around other social medium platforms like twitter, discord and so on, you will discover t hat they are not as effective as this forum and you cant compare the standard with this platform to those mentioned, i think its better we have everything together like this as we are having already, because others at the end may not derive the expected result as we could have on this platform.

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likely turn into scammers paradise

I will rather suggest Discord than Telegram but what's the purpose of been in any channel? If there is announcement, maybe a situation where forum will be down for long term? There is an X handle https://x.com/bitcointalk, similar announcement where done over there but I can't remember last time the went offline either for DDos attack or any other reason for long period, it's always 1~2 hours and it's back online.

Telegram is full of clowns, scammers, bots accounts that disturb groups, channels and dm's, the purpose can be defeated except if it's going to be private channel but this is a public forum.

My thoughts exactly. What's next? Twitter? Facebook? Instagram? WhatsApp? Signal? Discord? LinkedIn? I like Bitcointalk, and I don't think we need anything else. Then again, OP mentioned "unofficial" so anyone's free to create one.

Not like that.

I mean like how we already have an unofficial Discord group created by Cyrus.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247383.0

I think it would be harmless. It's not going to be some place that newbies are directed to, just some sort of lounge for the rest of us.

That discord channel is not active as one would like, what difference will Telegram channel make? Imo, shoutbox will be better choice than channels on messenger apps.

You made a valid Sense, sometimes when we need to communicate we think we can't through the forum, but let me tell you that we can still say and do whatever activities we do on groups in this Forum and for sure creating a telegram channel or group is somewhat a duplication of what the forum is and that will limit the traffic on this Forum.

Since its unofficial, it doesn't have to be created by an admin or moderator
You can choose to create one.
Though I don't really see the relevance since we already have the discord channel but I guess we have more people on telegram than discord.

For casual discussions, it wouldn't hurt to have one in off-topic board.

Life is much better and peaceful without having any official or unofficial telegram or another social media channel because main target is this forum and its working ok all needed to be available here for their needs.

Telegram is already scammers heaven while social media is creating serious chaos which is not acceptable for the peoples those are enjoying this life on forum without these troubling neighbors many already mentioned hopefully now this could be settled forum can live better life without them.

I wouldn't call it harmless.   I know swatting took place there in the past, thx to the real time nature Discord provides.  Person gets drunk, they call a foreign police department and claim someone is abusing children.    So everyone here claiming it would turn scammy is probably right; the bad guys wouldn't have to deal with the PM limitations that bitcointalk has.   Relying on non-newbie honest people does not work well here, how would it work when a hundred newbies can be created to chat any way you want, almost instantly?

The reality is like that... there will be a lot of scammers if there is a telegram channel for bitcointalk, especially now that telegram has a lot of spam bots that cannot be prevented because they are not moderated by themselves.
I don't think this is a good idea, but it's okay if someone creates a channel for bitcointalk {unofficial}.

We don't need to promote other platform that have similar functions like the forum, when the energy can just be channel in promoting this platform the more.  Telegram is just too complicated and it will expose members to potential harm. Lots of scammers can easily impersonate high ranking trusted members accounts of this forum over there in telegram and do their wicked schemes. But here such a thing is not possible, so I don't see any need to have a telegram groups or channels

Creating telegram community does not make sense because it basically the same purpose of discussion that we will shared on there among members is also applicable on the forum. I think this forum is okay, everything we needed to know, learn or asked can be shared here.

Best of luck, and even if something like that were to be created, i don't believe anyone would be interested in it, given Telegram's high reputation (sarcasm). Newbies might join, but old members like us certainly won't be going, as BTT is our comfort zone and also because of our bitter experience with TG. Tbh, the forum is already fulfilling its purpose. So I  really can't see why we need another platform to connect!

Every one has same opinion about your idea which means it's not good!

I've always said that the most vulnerable place for scammers to capture users is in a group or channel imagine we all getting into a group and a phishing link is sent over there will malicious encryption to steal informations from our devices, isn't that just a big trap for us all?

Privacy is most priority of many, over there on telegram it's no privacy ground.

If we have a telegram group or channel, what are we going to be discussing there that we don't discuss here on this forum?
Telegram = scammers den, why will i want to be so active in such scamming app?
Creating a telegram channel will result in breach of privacy. I like the privacy I enjoy here so i wouldn't want to move to an app where my privacy will be jeopardized.

In my opinion, if the Bitcoinalk Notification Telegram bot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248878.0) is activated on your Telegram. Then I don't think we need any other Telegram group. And through that Telegram Notifier bot. We are getting all kinds of updates. And we are coming to BitcoinTalk to discuss. And if we had a Telegram group, then we would not come to this forum after getting notifications, we would discuss there. In that case, the value of this forum may decrease. And so in my opinion, the Telegram Notifier bot is enough.

This is your own opinion and everyone is entitled to there own opinion however I will like to ask, is there anything good that having a telegram channel will bring or offer this forum?

This forum has all the features that is needed for communication and discussion, if you have a question that you feel you don't want to bring it to the public you can look for any member here and PM them and they will reply you.

Again I will like to remind you OP that this forum is meant or created by satoshi nakamoto for discussion purpose and currently that purpose is been carried out very well here no need for additional social media account except you are telling me there's a good purpose for it and I will love to hear it.

To what ends?
What can be done on Telegram that can't be done on the forum? I don't see a need for a Telegram group or channel. Also, a group will just have different people talking about different things at the same time, unlike this forum, where it has been divided into various boards, and different discussions are being had, and you have to comment based on the discussion.
There is the issue of scams on Telegram. Different people will get a lot of spam and scam messages in their inbox from the group.
I don't see the need for a telegram group.

Well, Telegram could be used to make quick questions and to avoid opening another thread, especially if it's coming from a newbie, and some regular chit-chat that doesn't align with the forum or isn't worth discussing it in the forum. It's a lot more direct as well. It won't steer off users from using the forum, it wouldn't mean to replace regula topics etc, it's just a more direct way of communicating. I'll have to agree though, Telegram is a scammer's paradise and this reason alone makes it a liability. Perhaps an integrated live-chat on the forum wouldn't be a bad idea, it's not necessary, but could be an interesting addition.

Aside from scams, people who have grudge on those people here especially towards on DT or anyone will have easy way to communicate, to spam you, give threats, blackmail, etc., That's what will you get after opening a Telegram group, well, there's a mod to delete unnecessary chats, but that will be another work to do. I knew there is a Discord channel already, it should be used instead.

I personally don't think an official telegram group is necessary - but for some small group of people can create their own for one reason or another. Bitcointalk is more than enough for me if the purpose is to have discussions - but of course not all of us can be active all the time in front of the monitor to respond to everything. Social media like Telegram is certainly good for quick response from users - but I think it can easily turn into a haven for scammers.

Do we really need these?
I think the activities we have on here is okay and I saw a thread that discussed on the drop in activities on the forum, a telegram group of any form would further lead to this drop and we would face the challenge of organization.

We see how the forum is organized in such a way that, there is a grouping to just whatever you want to discuss on. I don’t see how we would archive that with telegram without making a very crappy wall and you are so right that, their would be lots of spams and users that would try to share phishing links.

Just another ton of work for moderators.

This sounds good but don't you think is double task?
Some one who will be active doing that task and moderating people comments, besides when a telegram group is created you would have no privacy and also it would encourage scammer to flood in those groups since whenever someone is being scammed they can easily rush to change their username and possibly delete the account. But here you can set your profile whom to receive messages from and whom not to receive, although i still remembered that this same feature is applicable to telegram but, I could remember a story shared by fillippone where someone had his telegram username and started giving him pressure to go review his profile for meriting. This would encourage newbies disturbing and sending out unsolicited messages to people here. For me the forum is okay and is the best way to communicate and nothing is hidden over here.

Actually its not bad either to have an official telegram group. Yes people think its hub for scammers, it doesnt mean all users will joim there are scammers.

If reputable members here will join there how come it will be flagged with scammers? Also the creator could set it up to private so anyone who can only join are the real users from forum.

Tell me how come there will be scam attempt if thats the case. Sometimes users judge easily an app that they werent so familiar.

This forum isn’t that great for engaging in casual conversation. It’s not a terrible idea, but I think most people would struggle to find enough things in common with other members of the forum and that might make it difficult to get conversations going.

Anyone can create one about it and make it unofficial but there are many ways people try to scam on Telegram. Although people should learn how to avoid scam and I think reputed members on this forum can easily avoid scammers. But such place is not for me as I prefer just this forum. I still think some people may join and scammers will target them.

Where this forum is a discussion forum, why is there a need for a Telegram group? Any kind of discussion can be done here and there is a personal message system for personal discussions. So why should create telegram group/channel for this forum users, where must of the scammers use telegram.

No one creates any Telegram group or channel unofficially because the users of this forum who do so will have to take responsibility if anything happens there. And all the high ranking users of this forum know very well how important the responsibility of this forum is.

I guess no need anymore afaik we have a discord server already and even that is does not have an active people making conversation too so I guess no need for the telegram group, also there's a lot of scammers right there already and for me I consider its enough to have the forum.

This will give rise to heavy scam reports and spamming. If we have a telegram channel some users might join with multiple accounts and as we know already with  different names,  names from that which is known by forum users which will eventually become a powerful tool for scamming. Also newbies will want to impersonate, old users too will see a good avenue to practice some illicit act just because the are appear in the channel with a different name. Lastly people will lose their privacy because we will have high record of unsolicited PMs.

Here on the forum, there are still too many scammers trying to scam people but it's difficult for them because we have some sensitive members here who pay close attention to detect and expose scams before anyone fall victim, if there's an unofficial telegram channel of this forum, it could attract scammers because of how telegram is already being used to scam people, scammers can easily use someone else's user name to pretend like the real person just to scam people. Here on the forum, every communication can still be done effectively via PMs.

It will be a gateway to many more scam dramas in the reputation and scam accusation boards.

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Also, having a telegram group for this big and most decorated crypto forum will mean a big endorsement of telegram. Will the CEO reciprocate or pay for this?

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Some years back, I have joined some discord channels of BTT, I didn't know how it happened or happens till now.

Exactly , I don’t really see a strong reason for us to have Telegram channels.It will only give scammers the opportunity to find more victims for their schemes. And that place is like their territory , and some will spam there with some irrelevant links (even phishing link ) , beside we can do most of the things here apart from posting random links , we can also communicate with wide range of users here . So is better this way that the only bitcointalk telegram related stuff in telegram is the bitcointalk telegram notifier for now.

An official telegram channel or unofficial for bitcointalk forum might not be considered important by admin so far, that's why we don't have one. Besides, many of bitcointalk users really want to protect their privacy and don't want to connect with many people outside bitcointalk for security reasons, so I don't think this idea will be realized. If I was given a choice like voting, I would vote no for this idea.

Seems that majority here is against your idea. It's not that I'm against it, but can you tell some reasons why Bitcointalk would need Telegram channel? I don't really see point for online forum to have accounts on social media accounts.
Yes, there is Twitter of Bitcointalk, but it's needed for important announcements like downtime.
There is Bitcointalk Discord and I don't see much point of it. Can't remember when I visited it last time. Do we have at least some activity there or it's dead?

The is absolutely no need for a Bitcointalk telegram channel. Main drawbacks are:
 1. Way too much spam & scam posters on telegram
 2. It would dilute the content here with a side channel that many here do NOT subscribe to.

I for one find telegram, instagram, rediit, X et al to all be a vast intellectual wasteland and do not use any of them.

Most refuse to telegram for security reasons and more spam will come in and can be dangerous for anyone.
But I also won't give an argument whether telegram is really needed or not, but if possible telegram will be needed for some crucial events such as Bitcointalk which cannot be accessed and of course there will be a notification through the telegram channel about what is happening, because a few months ago there were several very annoying downtime times so that Bitcointalk really cannot be accessed.

Talking about telegram, SFI ( Sub Forum Indonesia ) has its own telegram group that may not be very active but all of us from Indonesia gather there, a group created by Indonesian Staff @sapta Aka BitRentX.

https://t.me/bitcointalk_id

I agree to this, especially that of scam.

I do not agree to this. Bitcointalk is not a new forum to experience this. As long as signature campaigns are still allowed in BTT, the quality of the content in this forum will not reduce.

I can remember there was a discussion about the Bitcointalk Telegram, and most of the people, including admins, aren't interested in creating either an official or unofficial Telegram channel or groups. Even I am not interested in creating any Telegram channels. Because I don't find any purpose in creating Bitcointalk telegram channels. Moderators are already tired of preventing forum spam. Then to manage Telegram channels, there should be another team. Did you find any legit purpose to create Telegram channels? All the forum updates are posted through the forum, and we can see at the top of the forum when something important is here.

Probably the best reason not to have a Telegram is there would be hundreds of these kind of messages sent every day:

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/06/26/Uuoh8H.png

As others have pointed out already, we already have Discord, and not a whole lot of people are actually using it, so its probably unnecessary to also be on Telegram.

It was fun talking with forum members in a chat setting during the Merit Poker, and I would probably enjoy normal conversations with some of y'all, but that's OK, I'm probably here enough already.

Apt! Very salient point you've there. You took the word out of my mouth. No further argument.

First and last link requests for telegram group that's connected with the forum without reasonability and they're all newbie accounts which obviously their opinions was out inexperience with the collectible communication services the bitcointalk platform could offer to it community users.
We either don't expect newbies with their inexperiences on the forum to just come and get the entire community devasted even with our experiences and their recommendations.
If asked for what reason, it'll still boils to communication system while we've it better here.

Even the SuperNotifier telegram is just to track posts activities and not a direct communication community
The second link seems to be of ulterior motive trying to get bitcointalk users attention through the external telegram and create his own communication community.
I don't see any of that contributing to the wellbeing of the bitcointalk forum.

The forum members and moderators are still struggling and finding it hard to totally eradicate spam also scam activities in the forum, and if we create a telegram group or channel don't you think spam and scam activities will grow to a very high level and it will become impossible to control it, it is very important for us to know that the main reason for this forum creation is for Bitcoin discussion and before other board was now created where other discussion are now done so basically this forum is for discussion purpose and as long as that purpose is being achieved I don't think it is of importance for telegram group or channel to be created.
And again when a telegram group or channel is created I think there will be no more privacy, and we all know that one good thing about this forum is the privacy, and this privacy gives people the privilege to discuss and contribute without fear, so I really don't support us having a telegram group or channel.

You're right, there will be high demand in moderating the additional platform together and this is going to be a serious task for the admin and other staff navigating from between the two, bitcoin forum is like no other, i know we once had a twitter account i think then, but everything went down for one or two reasons, if cant be a decentralized network to now work or operates under a centralized one, maybe this kind of mentality has been what has been keeping bitcointalk ahead of others, because we are well moderated here. 

Having official telegram channel of bitcointalk is a bad idea, because it will have the following effects
● It will increase a scam rate, because nobody will moderate it properly as is being moderated in bitcointalk
● It will reduce the engagement traffic of the forum
● If traffic of forum is being reduced, many people will lack interest on forum communications
● Discussion will a direct discussion or a personal discussion

Majority are on the other side of this idea. While this could be a great place to just say hi & chat with other members, not for hard discussions. There is indeed no point in creating an unofficial Bitcointalk community on Telegram, but to answer some of the doubts in this thread, I will try to answer them.

(1) The community will be filled with scammers.

Problem with scammers can be solved, because the group owner can make settings for anyone who wants to join, the user must make a request first, he will enter the group if the owner or admin approves him to join. To ensure the owner or admin approves the correct user, we can make sign message containing Telegram username as a rule for joining the group. With all that, we can create a clean Telegram group filled with known users.

(2) It will reduce the engagement traffic of the forum.

Someone said that Bitcointalk has an unofficial community on Discord, does the presence of the unofficial community cause engagement on the forum to decrease? someone please answer this question.

Bros @NotATether, if you want to make one, invite me, I have good knowledge to make Telegram community. ;)


New information for me, will join later, thanks bros!

You're not right on multiple aspects. Scams isn't moderated on Bitcointalk. Mods isn't involved in these things, it's left for community. Though, it's true that scam risk on Telegram would be much bigger. Very likely that there would be lot of attempts to impersonate famous Bitcointalk members.
About traffic, if I'm not mistaken Bitcointalk traffic is already falling eventually, I doubt that Telegram would make difference. Likely that Telegram channel would be dead same like Discord server.

If this happens, those who are using alt accounts and get caught will probably use it as an alibi saying they're connected because they know each other behind the scenes, not just here on bitcointalk blah blah blah..

Although it's a great communication app, I think this could be another tool that scammers might abuse. It’s much better if we just use our inboxes here on bitcointalk, since there have been many cases of users being impersonated through fake telegram accounts. And I'm sure it will be use for their personal agenda...

Well, I guess the answer is a pretty unanimous "no", so I'm locking this topic. Thanks for your input everyone.