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Bitcoin just broke ATH again, even with weak macro, no ETH ETF, and low overall sentiment. Classic BTC move-  leads when no one expects it.

Now the big question: when alt liquidity rotation?
ETH/BTC still weak,  dominance near cycle highs alts mostly dead. But if history repeats — BTC pumps first, then rotation follows. L1s, strong narratives, then the rest.

Not saying full-on altseason is guaranteed, but rotation usually comes once BTC cools down or chops.
Watching ETH, SOL, and dominance closely.

Just be careful with the altcoins. See 2024 as the altseason and not expect any reduction in bitcoin dominance for now. You will see the altcoins more disappointing if bitcoin slightly make some corrections. If you see the altcoins at low price again but bitcoin still at higher price, do not be surprised.

Keep an eye on the closest altcoins. XRP, ETH, SOL, BNB and all those other altcoins that have all kinds of memecoins created on their chains, once they explored, the rest shall follow. Bitcoin is a long way from the previous all-time high $69K and this has been so for several months, but most of the altcoins haven't even hit their all-time highs yet. So the question is
1. Have the dynamics changed, or we shall see a massive upward price rally towards the end of the year?

For ETH, BNB and SOL clearly have quite a place in the spotlight if the altseason really happens, these three are like the parents of altcoins. Today ETH also touched the $3000 point, so this opening will be a strong signal for altcoin projects. In addition, when altcoin sentiment starts to be considered bullish, it will make new projects maximize token releases.

If the normal rotation goes is still in, then after hitting new ATH money will most go to the altcoins market afterwards. But for how long and when? No one knows so, if that trend is no longer there, we won't see it anymore because it happened already last year. If it's still there, we'd see it maybe after a month or two or even at the end of this year when Bitcoin is no longer dominant in the market and decreases it because it will go to the altcoins dominance, maybe ETH, SOL, etc.

With all eyes currently on Bitcoin (BTC) for its success in setting new & new ATH, I think the chances of an altseason are getting slimmer. Don't get your hopes up, if you don't want to miss out, it's better to rely primarily on Bitcoin (BTC). A few hours ago Ethereum (ETH) made a rally, it almost touched $3K. A good sign, but don't get your hopes up, as I said. Ethereum (ETH) and Solana (SOL) are good, but Bitcoin (BTC) is better ;D.

Stellar seems to be doing okay, it has been the largest percentage gainer in the top market cap lists lately.

I like it a lot more than other top ranking token-platforms as I find its native tokens ability much simpler and cleaner than having to resort to "smart contracts" to implement tokens.

See for example https://MakeMoney.Knotwork.com/stellar/

Oh low fees too of course, Stellar's extremely low fees are very nice. :)


-MarkM-

With current market I'd be fixated on BTC dominance and see if there's something big going to happen.

As of now it seems inflow going to ethereum heavily, possibly because people sees it as hugely underrated and try to position themselves.
I'd expect the biggest altcoin that are top 10 to have good time in the future, as for the rest with micro market cap, I don't really know.

To be honest, I won't use ETH/BTC chart because as we know BTC is too strong in this cycle.

Last year 2024, it seemed like it was hard to determine the altcoins season because one by one, other altcoins suddenly had a huge pump in their prices. Just like what happened
with Pepe when the price of bitcoin was only $48k-$50k when bitcoin's price started to rally, Pepe's price value suddenly rallied.

The percentage of its price increase was also really big. And even other altcoins that are different and other meme coins, we can only count on our fingers the altcoins
that really rallied their prices.

Ethereum has been outperforming Bitcoin recently and I thought this would mean Bitcoin’s dominance would be declining, but CoinMarketCap and TradingView show that it has not changed very significantly. Altcoins are starting to look bullish, but this is mostly a result of BTC and ETH pumping. I don’t expect to see much of a rotation, but projects with solid fundamentals will keep performing well as long as institutions keep pumping capital into the crypto market.

The main reason why you don't see the significant change in Bitcoin.D is that because Bitcoin is also pumping. Remember this, BTC.D will decrease significantly only if Bitcoin doin sideways while alts pumping. That's totally different with the current condition. It's because Bitcoin is keep pushing to break new ATH.

Do not let those altcoins (like ethereum) to deceive you, you will see them pump but later you will notice that bitcoin performed better in long term. Ethereum is yet to get to all-time high.

The credit goes to bitcoin. Ethereum is pumping because bitcoin is pumping. Also ethereum is part of the altcoins.

They always saying that since they are trying to hype people to buy Ethereum. Lots of them try to create a good hype for that coin since maybe they think about that altcoin would start once there's a bullish movement happening on Ethereum.

But for many times they failed and their expectation didn't meet that's why there's lots of discussion about this and some other people deceive that Ethereum is doing good compare on Bitcoin. For me I'd rather focus on Bitcoin since I see a good growth although ETH is doing good but for me Bitcoin movement is doing more fine and profitable especially for those people who choose to HODL it for long time.

This is not only a one-time show but they are a normal part of the crypto already. Same goes with BTC bull run. It is only there around the corner but maybe it is just not the perfect time yet for them to rally, so we gotta be patience for it if we want to benefit. Usually alt season needs some motivation, so BTC needs to pump first but if there is no pump in BTC then an alt season may not occur as well. That being said, they can co-exist together.

We can also called this as a bull run because a bull run is where all the cryptos are pumping up even the shittiest ones out there. It means altcoins as well will join the bull run along with bitcoin but the big question is when that would start.

There's always that time for altcoins. ETH might not be making up some big move or with those other top altcoins in the market. What next for altcoins? We do know that we do have that altcoin season and this is where those altcoin holders that been looking into. Now that BItcoin do hit up some new all time high on which it did made out some greens too into those other coins in the market but of course you cant just that expect that everything would be getting in line. It would be just that depending on you on how you would be able to adjust or simply just that make yourself handle your portfolio specially if you are that making some focus on your altcoin bags. So this would be a waiting game and a test of patience. If you arent that good on handling out your patience then it would be just that testing out yourself into this aspect. Never ever tend to make out those rush decisions just because you do have found yourself that being impatient because you havent seen your bags been pumping. Now that the market is that on greens then there wouldbe some percentage gains but people are expecting something even more and thats normal. Growth on specific top altcoins in the market will be that not known and totally random as always.

There's always that those talks in regarding ETH and Bitcoin on which one is better on which each of them is that totally different and not all people would be focusing into investing into either BTC or ETH on which there would be that tons of considerations on where people would be that investing. Some do make out some both choices for them to at least secure on whenever the market do make out some pump. It doesnt matter on which one as long your capital allows you to do so then there would be no issues in regarding into this one. There are just that those times that you would be having those kind of hesitation in between about your investment.

I don't see much for altcoins at this moment, hopefully once Bitcoin crosses $120k market cap then we might see some alt coins forming new ATH's but not before that. Right now even the top performing alt coin of this season Solana isn't doing much as compared to Bitcoin. It's still far away from its ATH, and Ethereum is also not doing good at all. The small market cap alt coins aren't doing anything good, and so far it's waste of money to invest in those alt coins.

I don't think that we will see alt season again this circle because bitcoin is still dominating and big companies are still buying. No one is investing in altcoins because they have no real value. Altcoins season was last year and don't get too carried away that as bitcoin price is pumping, altcoins will survive the pump. One small correction on bitcoin price will make them go dipper.

I think we already saw SOL's rally last year and it did really pumped great. So, if people are expecting for it to be part of this year's altcoin season, it's still possible but they have to remember that it has already made some pump and we don't know if there's gonna be 2nd version of this before this year ends. With the pump that BTC is doing right now, the hope for the alts season is there and we only have to wait when it's going to make every alt pump. If we're only looking for colors, majority of them is in green but let's see how they react when BTC starts to correct.

The era for alt is dead, no alts had ever shown the momentum of getting to it's ATH but stagnant around lower level, the bull season is never like before anymore but seeming to be dominated by Bitcoin only,

Alts are creating another game of pump and dump unlike before where there were use cases development mentality, the total number of alt that comes out everyday makes investors jumping from one to another looking for quick gains and not consistently focusing on project.

That's the problem.

That was a very small price rise for bitcoin which means it is too soon to get excited about any kind of major move in the altcoin market for pumps. What the altcoin market needs to see big pumps is fresh money from newbies who don't know how terrible altcoins are and have not yet lost money to the pump and dump schemes.
That can only happen if there is a prolonged bitcoin bull market that attracts "fresh" money and we are not there yet.

Bitcoin did hit the new all time high and it is up now more then 9 percent in only this last 7 days. And there is also alot of alt coins that did get big gains with the new Bitcoin all time high.
XLM did get the most gains it is up more then 82 percent in that time. I do wish I did not sell all my XLM along time ago.
And for the coins in the top of the coinmarketcap Cardano is up more then 26 percent, XRP is up 25 percent, Ethereum is up now more then 17 percent, and Solana is up more then 9 percent.

You know, XLM is also one of my long-term holdings that I'm actually doing dca on, it may be quiet like Trx but I believe that one day its price will also skyrocket in the market
when we see that the market movement in the crypto space is all green.

It's even better than Pi, because it's really proven anyway, Even ADA I'm also saving it for now
and I also have a price target for when I'll sell it too.

We all expected liuquidity flow to alts in Q3 of 2024 but didn't happen basically because this bull cycle is more driven by adoption rather than market moves. So, project teams and devs need to up their game and ensure their ecosystem evolve to cater for the need of the society (global economy). BTC for instance is now used as strategic reserves, base value for ETF trades, payment solution etc, Ethereum, Ripple and Chainlink are rapidly evolving too to provide evolutionary banking solutions and meet defi needs.

Yes, that could be the case, that's why the altcoin market has been bleeding. Perhaps there are a lot of projects that might just repeat itself and no there are no face value except that maybe to just pump and dump.

Like what we are seeing with the old coins, although there are still in the top, but there's not much movement as compare to Bitcoin wherein it really goes off on another all time high for this month so it's hard to see what altcoins should do to be able to have this kind of magical run.

Well if you are doing dca with the token then you are making alot of gains in this week. No the token is up more then 95 percent in only the last 7 days.
I think I will be buying some XLM because I am seeing 'bullish' news for it. PayPal integrating its stablecoin PYUSD on the network will make the price for token go up alot more.
https://www.ainvest.com/news/stellar-xlm-surges-20-128-paypal-integrates-pyusd-2507/

This bull run is totally different from the past bull run because it seems that this current bull run is only centered on Bitcoin. So many altcoins reached a new all-time high last year, and with the performance of Ethereum, I am not sure if some altcoins will reach a new all-time high before this year's end.

We don't have to be surprised the whole space is already known for it's uncertainties where historical statistics never guaranteed to repeat itself perhaps it is only obvious that people are becoming more familiar with Bitcoin and at the same time decreasing interest in altcoins when considering or giving references to demand and supply, when Bitcoin is increasing there is no magic to increase the value of altcoins without an increment in demand, let's not be surprised altcoins is never a match with Bitcoin for it to be certainly increasing whenever Bitcoin is increasing .

If you say historical statistics never guaranteed to repeat itselve in altcoins, I will 100% agree with you because I have seen so many altcoins that have performed well in the past, and people invest in those altcoins during the bear season, believing those altcoins will set a new ATH in the bull season, but along the line some of those altcoins failed, and some got rug pulled, making the investors that invested in those altcoins lose their money. But in Bitcoin, I will disagree with you that historical statistics never guaranteed to repeat itself because since I have known about Bitcoin, it has always set new ATHs in each bull run, and after the bull run, it always drops in price in the bear season.

Alright, a fresh BTC ATH again! Love to see it, especially with everyone feeling a bit 'meh' lately. Classic indeed, it always seems to happen when you least expect it.

But yeah, the big question is always what happens next for the altcoins. That 'liquidity rotation' is what everyone's waiting for, right? I've been watching ETH/BTC too, and it's been surprisingly flat, even with BTC doing its thing. Makes you wonder if this cycle will follow the old script of L1s first, then narratives, or if something else entirely is brewing.

Part of me hopes it's a bit more distributed this time, so not just the usual suspects pump. But alt dominance being near cycle highs while BTC pushes... that's a head-scratcher.

What specific alt sectors are you guys watching closely for that first big move once BTC takes a breather? Or do you think this time it's less about sectors and more about specific projects with solid tech?

BTC pulling an ATH out of nowhere is truly classic, just when the market was getting bored, it wakes the whole market up.

About altcoin rotation, it’s like capital hasn’t really started flowing down to them yet, which might be another sign that altseason would also pull out of the blue.

Right now, my focus is on AI and RWAs narrative, especially the ones showing real utility. But i also think  we might see isolated surges tied to projects with strong fundamentals and actual utility instead of the previous runs that was based on a specific ecosystem.

Bitcoin has consistently prove to the world all it takes to make the difference its made up of in differentiating from altcoins, the same thing as we have it on bitcoin, this is bitcoin season and this time, i don't thig the altcoins season is coming or showing any indication for such, but we may expect for another season maybe other coins will also rise or not, there have been seasons also, whereby the altcoins rises and bitcoin shows no significant uprise.

True. Until we see real FOMO and new retail inflows, altcoin pumps will just be recycled hype among existing bagholders.

Since yesterday, after bitcoin dipped to $117k, Ethereum and other altcoins haven't been influenced by the dip, does this mean that the altcoin season will likely kick off soon or it's just a temporary hype and will cool off in no time. A lot of altcoin holders are hoping to see the altcoin season come to reality in this bull run, but this circle is different from the previous and we can't say if it's possible for us to see the altcoin season.

I agree. ;)
In the past, a BTC dip like that would’ve wrecked the entire alt market instantly. But now? Alts barely flinched. That’s a shift.
Still, I’m not convinced it means altseason is guaranteed. Liquidity is thinner, retail is cautious, and narratives are weaker.

Maybe we’ll get rotation — but not the kind of explosive altseason we saw in 2017 or 2021.

I mean we are not entirely sure about that, I am guessing that's a possibility but we need to make sure that we can handle it and we are going to definitely make some money from alts. I understand that people do not have that much hope with alt season for time being but we are seeing this period we are still doing alright. It means that we are going to get a lot better return without a doubt.

We just need to wait for it to do better and we should be getting a lot better return. So focus on the possibilities and we would make a lot more money. If we do that then we are going to get a ton of money without a doubt. So just wait, we still have months before the year ends, and we can grow a lot better without a doubt.

Hey there

I think the altcoin season has begun and it will be around treasury purchases of one asset or another into company accounts that are traded on traditional exchanges.
Like Consensys did with SharpLink - https://tokenbestnews.com/news/ethereum-eth/ethereum-at-17000-the-shadow-strategy-behind-eths-hidden-valuation/

Aftere 2 days they will rise another $6B for buy Ethereum (https://tokenbestnews.com/news/sharplinks-6b-ethereum-bet-deepens-the-corporate-crypto-playbook/)

Many companies are now capitalizing on this scheme

As it stands today, the Bitcoin-Altcoin seasons indicators seem to show we might getting closer to an alt season than ever this year. Bitcoin seems to have encountered a very strong wall in the level of 120k which has not been able to break through, while coins like Ethereum are showing monthly increases of prices up to twenty five percent, which is very positive for traders who are betting on alt season starting soon. Though, I believe for an actual season to commence, it would take Bitcoin to reduce it's volatility an stay stagnant below 120k for some time, so liquidity and traders move onto alt coins, trying to chase more money which would not be able to make out of Bitcoin, because of the price becoming relatively stable for some time.

Obviously there is strong resistance and strong support I see in these two in the bitcoin price today, that's why if we notice that there is only a rejection for the second time around when the 123k$ is broken, it has hit 120K$ again, which is why its value has fallen again in the market.

So it looks like it is down to 116k$ again with the support we see now, we still have no idea where there will actually be a breakout between the two, whether it is resistance or support?
And this is probably what others here are also waiting for.

If BTC keeps ranging or chills below 120k for a bit, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more money flow into alts. Right now it’s just stuck between 116k and 123k-  no clear breakout yet, so everyone’s kinda just watching and waiting.

Alts will move, a lot higher than this, but it really needs some time. First people need to make sure that bitcoin is done going up. Bitcoin could still go up in the next 4 months, and that means we could see something like 150k maybe, not saying we will, but it may happen and because of that I am sure that we are going to see the prices change.

What we need to do right now is to make sure that we are dealing with a greater return with time, if we can do that then it means bitcoin is the way to go. The moment we all stop thinking bitcoin will not bring us any more profit, we will sell out our profit from bitcoin and we will start buying up all kinds of altcoins. We have time for that, so we should be waiting a bit more, at least few more months.

Trying to hit higher is the way to go higher, first you need to try to go higher and if you can do it then you earn, if you fail then you lose. There isn't much we can do about it, we just need to learn and do a better job, if we can do that then we could make some great returns. Obviously a lot of people end up with losses that they can't focus on, but if we can get a greater return that means we are doing a fine job at trading.

So we need to just keep on trying to do better and better, and hit that ceiling few times, it is not going to be broken on the first try, but if we keep trying then it will get weaker and weaker each time we try and on the last try we will go break above it. Or, eventually buyers will get tired and it will go down, but I do not think that will happen now.

These days the altcoins are really surprising me with the way their market is fluctuating; I don’t even understand. Because last season a lot of people were saying this season is the Altcoins season, but up to today there haven’t been any changes concerning the Altcoins, and the most surprising thing is that by the time the Bitcoin market is dumping down, all the Altcoins will follow up, and by the time the Bitcoin is doing well, they will still not be able to get back to normal levels, talk less of pumping up.

That’s why most people prefer to invest in Bitcoin rather than invest in the altcoins because they have known value. Again, although the Bitcoin market will make them go deeper, and since the Bitcoin price is pumped up, they suppose they should also go deeper, but nothing like that. And that is why I also said that it will be hard for the altcoins to do well in this situation because they are not doing better this season.

A bit late to this, but I think we still need to be careful with Alts, for a while now the trend has been little to no reaction from them despite the rally from BTC.