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The genocide we are witnessing in Gaza is the repetition of history with only one difference: the Holocaust in Gaza is being broadcast live! Roughly 140 countries have suffered such atrocities by Western regimes that included starving people to death. Just to name a few off the top of my head:

• The largest one is probably America where the colonizers murdered over 100 million Americans (the indigenous people the colonizers refer to as "Indians" or "Native Americans" today) to establish their colony. That was through starvation, spreading diseases and directly killing them!
• In the region they call Canada they sterilized indigenous women (removed their reproduction organs) there by force to prevent their race from existing!
• In India and specially in the Bangladesh region they caused famine and killed millions
• During both WW1 and WW2 the Western barbarians killed a total of 13 million people in Iran through starvation after they stole the grains, burnt farms, etc. That was 40% of the population
• In Iraq during 1990's until 2 years after the invasion of Iraq they killed at least 500,000 children by causing famine and creating medicine shortage through illegal and anti-human sanctions and blockades.
• The French murdered 1 million people in Algeria because they didn't want to lose that colony!
• During 1980's they killed over 2 million people in North Korea through sanctions and blockades that caused famine
• In Somalia, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, generally in Central Africa they are still starving people!
• Even Europeans haven't escaped these barbaric regimes! For example in Ireland and Scotland the British regime created the Potato Famine during 1845-1852 that killed over a million people in Ireland and 100k in Scotland and forced dislocation of millions of people
• an a lot more...

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As you can see the atrocities we watch take place every day in Gaza is the repetition of what these uncivilized and barbaric Western regimes have been committing throughout history. The genocide in Palestine has been going on for almost 80 years an the Zionist occupiers of Palestine which call their terrorist organization Israel have been starving people, killing them, raping them, taking hostages and torturing them all these decades with full support of these Western regimes which can mainly be categorized as NATO.

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In the past 2 years, the Zionist terrorists have only intensified these atrocities trying to finally finish off Palestine.

In other words the starvation of people in Gaza has been going on for almost 2 years, the only thing difference is that certain Western mouthpieces started talking about that starvation tactic the terrorist organization (their boss is supporting) has been using in Gaza as if it is a new thing! Even though it has been going on for almost 2 years. We can even see the indoctrinated users of this forum who even sympathized with al-Qaeda in Syria a couple of months ago (because the mouthpieces told them so) are talking about starving people of Gaza out of nowhere!

The reason for breaking that silence now is obvious, specially among the English mouthpieces. The dictator in London is currently in a competition with the US regime over his influence in one of its old occupied territories. If you analyze what these mouthpieces say you can clearly see that they don't even dare mention the terrorist organization they continue arming that has been committing genocide in Palestine for decades. The best they do is to blame the head of this terrorist group (ie. Netanyahu) while pretending the starvation started a couple of days ago because their dictator Charles 3 is trying to overthrow him and install another head for this terrorist group that is closest to him not close to Washington.

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What should be done is not changed either. The fate of Palestinians is decided through Resistance. The terrorist organization called Israel that has been occupying Palestine must be dismantled through Resistance so that the Palestinian people that include Muslims, Jews, Christians, and others can live freely in their own homes.

Also don't forget that Gaza is not fighting Netanyahu, Palestine is fighting NATO. If NATO stopped sending Israeli terrorists weapons, money, food, fuel, etc. If Erdogan stopped doing business with them and cut the oil supply he is sending them, If US regime stopped giving them political support, etc. the genocide in Gaza would stop in a blinking of an eye.
As I've explained many times before, Israel is an insignificant and weak terrorist organization that can only exist and continue its atrocities like a parasite. If the NATO support stops, Israel will cease to exist which only means the genocide in Gaza would also end.

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P.S. Now you can understand why during the 12 days when NATO started a war with Iran, the Iranians while crushing NATO used that as an excuse to mainly bombed the hell out of Israel. We have been seeing the effects of that 12-day heavy bombardment of Israeli terrorists over the past month as the Palestinian Resistance is now having a much higher success facing the Israel genocide machine in Gaza.
Watch the recent videos Qassam Brigade published to see what I mean... an example: https://www.aparat.com/v/hed67j3

Israel pauses military activity at Gaza aid sites as starvation and killings mount.

https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-pause-military-activity-gaza-aid-starvation-killing/  (https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-pause-military-activity-gaza-aid-starvation-killing/)

When you want to make a genocide, you do not make a humanitarian break.

There is not any genocide at Gaza.

Now it seems to me that Israel's war with Iraq was a staged drama. With which they are working to divert the attention of the world. Israel have drawn the attention of all the international media towards the war with Iraq. At this time, they have carried out the killing in Gaza as they please. In this year 2025, how is it possible to accept that small children of a country are dying of hunger. Israel wants to destroy the entire Palestinian nation. That is why they are killing children. About 70 people including children forced starvation kill Palestinians in Gaza.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/26/israeli-attacks-forced-starvation-kill-more-than-70-palestinians-in-gaza?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Whitewashing genocide and terrorist organizations is as bad as committing genocide and terrorism if not worse.

Over the past 24 hours the NATO backed Israeli terrorists starved 147 more Palestinians in Gaza, 88 of them were children.
This has been going on for a long time... https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/israel-shoots-heads-children-seeking-aid
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/07/28/UHCbI5.jpeg (https://www.talkimg.com/image/UHCbI5)

Pooya, you should be thinking on why Israel is an enemy of Iran when it used to be a friend. And, frankly, it is not that difficult.


Yes there is. Israel is preventing the people from going out of Gaza, then bombing it as well as restricting the water and food that can go it. There are actually Israeli soldiers that are giving testimony of it.

When your plan is not a genocide, you do not speak about forced relocations.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/8/netanyahu-trump-discuss-forced-transfer-of-palestinians-out-of-gaza (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/7/8/netanyahu-trump-discuss-forced-transfer-of-palestinians-out-of-gaza)


If this is not a genocide, then the disgraceful events during WW II are not either.

This is not "Western barbarism", this is what happens when radical unchecked nationalism takes over a country.

Terrorist organizations such as ISIS and Israel have no friends (that includes the Western regimes that are helping them today). They are enemy of humanity.

Although I am guessing that you are talking about the dictator of Iran that was helping the Zionist regime by the order of those who installed him (ie. US+UK regimes). FYI that was one of the reasons why Iranians rose up and overthrow him by 1979 to establish democracy.

P.S. It is worth adding that shortly after the Islamic Revolution succeeded in 1979 to overthrow the US-backed dictatorship, there was a referendum and the Iran's constitution was written and it was put to vote. One of the main principles of that constitution that people voted for is "supporting the oppressed" which includes supporting Palestinians against the enemy of humanity which is the Zionist regime.

50000 dead among a population of more than 2 million people after almost two years of war. This number (given by Hamas) includes approximately 30000 Hamas soldiers. If this is a genocide, then it is clear that Israel is not gifted in genocide. ;)

What do you call that then if not genocide? Fifty-thousand is a shockingly high number of (nearly all) civilian deaths.
Indiscriminate killing of civilian population probably qualifies as ethnic cleansing.
And the killings are still ongoing and shows no signs of stopping. It could be 50,000 dead today,
and 100,000 or more by the end of the year.

Hundreds of journalists have been murdered by Israeli forces, so no one knows the real numbers of dead.
So the current 50,000 dead figure could be much higher today given the fog of war and Israel's efforts
to suppress the news.

If this doesn't end soon, in 5 to 10 years there could be a million dead or two million.
It seems to me Israel won't stop until there is no one left alive.









 

isreal is not indiscriminately killing
the targets are hamas(under the iranian regime).. however there is collateral damage in proximity of hamas

isreal dont have a motto of "death to palestine, death to yemen"

however iran, houthi and hamas do have a motto of "death to isreal, death to america"

once you can use a braincell and separate the group of hamas from palestinians.. you will notice the difference
if all you see is "palestinians" when you really mean hamas.. then your still blind and not ready to see the reality of the world

hamas dont have an agenda of peace for palestinians. they turn down every attempt for peace
hamas do have an agenda to appease iran. and iran fund hamas to follow through with that agenda

palestinians do not have the same agenda as hamas/iran.. and isreal know that hamas and palestinians are not the same and dont want the same
isreal want to feed the palestinians, isreal send warnings to palestinians to get out of a target zone when isreal want to target hamas
isreal want to send food/aid into gaza FOR PALESTINIANS, but isreal dont want it ending up in hams control

its hamas that control the situation and try to keep innocent palestinians nearby. its hamas that take control of food supplies and hoard it and stop it getting to the palestinains
one day, you might find the braincell thats ready to articulate this.. but until then you will just blindly follow the crap media that placates to the iranian regimes and promotes propaganda to hide iran/hamas's games

@pooya87, since you're mentioning all these terrible events, why didn't you mention the one regarding the starvation of millions of Ukrainians by the same people who are killing them today?

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I will not hesitate for a moment to say that Israel commit mass crimes against humanity in Gaza and that they are doing it all planned and with the aim of killing as many people as possible and displacing the remaining ones as far as possible. But I will also be completely objective and say that an equal part of the responsibility lies with Hamas, who gave them more than a good reason to behave barbarically towards the Palestinian people.

The attack on Israel and the kidnapping of so many people is the cause of what is happening - and even with so much suffering of civilians, this same Hamas does not want to release the kidnapped people and end this nightmare. As strange as it may sound to some, the blood of all those civilians is also on the hands of Hamas, which hides in its tunnels full of food and water, while ordinary people die of hunger and bullets on the surface. To me, they are just as barbaric as those they fight.

Prime Minister Keir Starmer has officially announced the UK will recognise Palestine as a state by the United Nations meeting in September, unless Israel agrees to a ceasefire.

https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1950233361089516049?s=19

Israeli think there are winning the war by starving millions of Palestinians mostly women and children but little did they know that world are beginning to stand with Palestinians against Israeli mass genocide.
France was the first country to recognize Palestine state and now The UK have done the same. Countries like Netherlands, Spain Italy,North Korea, Canada and including Russian will soon make it official to the world by recognizing Palestine state in the next United nations general Assembly. Americans and Israel will be the biggest losers of all time, Benjamin Netanyahu will be arrested for world  crimes against humanity.

If we read the history then it's the UK who through 'Balfour Declaration (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine)' created a state for Jews in 1917 and that led the foundation of crisis that's still going on. There are many crisis in the world whose sole responsibility lies on UK for instance Kashmir dispute between India and Pakistan.

France and UK are now trying to tell that they are nice to people of Palestine by saying that they will accept Palestine in September but won't do anything to stop the ongoing genocide in Palestine by the Israel. This Gaza genocide clearly exposes the dual face of West, it's important to understand that Israel is not alone in crimes he is committing in GAZA but big western powers are fully supporting him.

Israel has targeted journalists and aid workers and is still violently preventing aid from getting
through to relieve widespread famine. Ethnic cleansing doesn't get anymore obvious and vicious than that.

In other words, no matter the good that other countries talk, does anybody think that aid is going to get through?

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The title should answer your question. Famine in Ukraine is irrelevant to this topic. Otherwise I can mention other barbarism too that are irrelevant here like the Russian invasion of Iran during WW2 which were contributing to that famine I mentioned in OP. Or I could mention the Ukraine's collaboration with the Nazis back in 1940's running their concentration camps. Or I could mention more recent stuff like Ukraine supplying the second largest army during the illegitimate invasion of Iraq and participate in the slaughter of over a million men, women and children there or Ukraine's shameless and open cooperation with Takfiri terrorists (including al-Qaeda and ISIS) in Syria.

So you are basically saying that the international law that grants the right to use force against occupiers/invaders only applies to people you like (ie. Ukraine) not people you don't like (ie. Palestine). Don't you think that's a double standard and a bit racist?
Not to mention that if anything this right is more applicable to Palestinians since Ukraine is only dealing with an invasion/occupation but Palestine is dealing with both invasion/occupation and genocide.

H.A.M.A.S. (acronym for Islamic Resistance Movement in Arabic) that was established 42 years after the occupation of Palestine and genocide of Palestinians began is a legitimate resistance group that has been acting according to the international law and the Geneva Convention against an apartheid regime that has been committing all kinds of atrocities against humanity one of which is genocide.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/07/30/UHtqq5.jpeg (https://www.talkimg.com/image/UHtqq5)

Additionally the military personnel HAMAS arrested during Operation Al-Aqsa Storm were a response to the Palestinian hostages in the Zionist dungeons being tortured and killed; they took these prisoners so that they have something they can use to force the Zionist terrorists and their NATO supporters to release those Palestinian hostages that include children.

If these NATO regimes want the genocide in Gaza to stop, they don't need to recognize anything. All they have to do is to stop sending weapons to the Zionists!
All these talks of recognizing Palestine is fake and is done to appease the public that is outraged these days watching the Holocaust in Gaza broadcast live. These barbaric regimes are just trying to buy more time for their Zionist proxy to carry out more genocide in Palestine. As long as NATO weapon shipments keep pouring in occupied lands for the Zionists, this genocide will continue.

Besides the only reason why the Zionists even mention ceasefire these days is because of their extremely high casualties. You see 2 major things happened in June and July. On June 13, NATO attacked Iran and put their Zionist proxies at the helm so Iran retaliated by heavily bombing Israel for 12 straight days (in addition to retaliation againt NATO targets like the bombardment of US regime's Central Command). The strategic targets that Iran destroyed have all but crippled the NATO genocide machine in Gaza. The 3 of the most important targets Iran destroyed are:
1. The Zionist Command and Control base that they used to coordinate their genocide in Gaza that Iran obliterated. The estimates put the number of Zionist terrorists that were eliminated to over 800 officers and Zionist genocide deputies.
2. The secret spy facilities that carried out terrorist attacks and gathered information including the Aman base (אגף המודיעין) that got obliterated by day 6 eliminating countless Zionist terrorists including the members of Unit 8200. IIRC this was the video of it:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/07/30/UHzS0Z.jpeg (https://www.talkimg.com/image/UHzS0Z)
3. Nearly half of the entire NATO air defense (THAAD, Patriot specifically PAC-3, Aegis, Arrow, Iron Dome, David's Sling, etc.) is gone

The second thing is what I mentioned in OP as well, the number of successful operations by the Palestinian Resistance has been setting a new record every day. If you analyze the videos they've been releasing over the past 2 years and if you have a good "ear" you'll notice something interesting. There is rarely any drone sounds above their head anymore.... ;) Hint: In the first 48 hours of heavy bombardment of Israel, Iran hit all Zionist airbases.
Even the Gaza handmade rockets are now hitting the Zionist targets since the NATO air-defense is significantly degraded (Iran hit them with at least 700 ballistic missiles, hundreds of cruise missiles and over 3000 loitering munitions).

This is a complete repetition of Russian propaganda. Unfortunately, I am from Russia and I know what they say in our media: "Russia is not fighting with Ukraine but with NATO."
so now we know who's paying you.
well, it's not bad money i'm sure.

This same people will come out to preach freedom and democracy for us, while on the actual sense they are the bad actors behind all the inhumane acts happening around the world, maybe little do they know about the number of innocent children that have dies after suffering from hunger and disease as a result of their selfish ambitions, some of their actions were not taken into consideration as to whether it could be imposing a negative effect on the innocent lives someone, we are just in a modern advanced slavery and in pretense smiling that everything is fine when people are dying each day like fowls.

It might take a little while, yet. But the EU is in dire straights. They are going to dissolve under the agreements that they have had to make lately with Trump... so that he will keep on supporting them. And, when you add to it the fact that Russia is forming its own gold exchange that is not part of the Western gold exchanges - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5543564.msg65640656#msg65640656 - even Trump's superiority might collapse.

The sad thing is that it will take way too long to happen to make a difference for a lot of the people of Gaza.

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In Rwanda,  80000 dead in 3 months, it was a génocide.

At Treblinka, 18000 dead every day, it was a génocide.

At Gaza, 55000 dead (including 30000 civil) in 2 years. It is NOT a genocide.

I don't know what Russia has to do with anything when we talk about the genocide in Gaza that is carried out with full NATO cooperation! And it is very suspicious that you say someone is paying me to state facts. Maybe you have been paid by some corrupt regime in the past which is why you think anybody who says anything against the status quo of that corrupt regime is being paid!

In any case lets see how Palestine is fighting NATO.

• The aircrafts used to bomb people day and night are US made (mainly F-16, F-15 and F-35).
• The helicopters the Israeli terrorist regularly use to murder civilians are mainly the AH-64 attack helicopters manufactured by Boeing, ie an American company.
• Aircraft parts and maintenance are done by NATO (eg. England sending Zionist terrorists F-16 parts)
• The electronics on those aircrafts are US made and specifically made for the Zionist regime (not found in other variations sold to other countries).
• The satellites used to monitor Gaza 24/7 and provide the Israeli terrorists with information all belong to NATO (mainly US regime's military satellites).
• The bombs used by Israeli terrorists to destroy hospitals, refugee tents, schools, residential areas, etc. are 100% US made (eg. the MK-80 bombs manufactured by General Dynamics)
• The fuel for those aircrafts and their tanks are sent to them by NATO (namely Erdogan).
• The weapons shipments that reach the Israeli terrorists every week through seaports are coming from NATO (specially Europe).
• The weapons shipments that reach the Israeli terrorists every day through their airports are coming from NATO (specially US).
• The air-defense inside occupied Palestine trying to desperately protect the Israeli terrorists from incoming projectiles are either 100% NATO made or is made with the help of NATO (ie. Patriot, THAAD, etc. that are US made or Zionist A.D. like חֵץ that are manufactured with the help of US regime)
• The radars across West Asia that are protecting the Israeli terrorists from being punished are all in NATO bases (eg. the Kürecik Radar base and Incirlik Air Base in Turkey that Iran were going to flatten if Trump hadn't begged for ceasefire, the US bases in Iraq and Syria, the secret French base in Jordan, the English base in Cyprus, ...)
• The advanced technologies Israeli terrorists use to commit genocide (like the AI used to maximize the civilian casulties) is made with the help of Google and the Israeli terrorists are given full access to both Google and Amazon's cloud services.
• The Naval units in the Mediterranean sea that are completing the blockade on Gaza from the sea are NATO navies that also participate in the air defense for the Israeli terrorist desperately trying to protect them from incoming projectiles.
• The heavy machines like the Zionists' armored D9 bulldozers that the Zionist terrorists use to demolish people's homes in Palestine (both Gaza and West Bank) are supplied by the American company Caterpillar.
• The armored vehicles used for genocide by the Israeli terrorists are mostly manufactured by NATO (eg. AM General's Humvees,
• Ammunition for those tanks are also mainly NATO made for example the M830A1 round that killed the famous 6-year old Hind Rajab was made by the American company American Ordnance as part of Day & Zimmermann. Even Germans who complain about not having shells to give to Ukraine are arming the Israeli terrorists with shells. Rheinmetall AG...
• The regimes who are providing the Israeli terrorists with political support are all NATO regimes. For example it is the US regime that has so far vetoed every single genocide-stopping-resolution passed by the UNSC!
• Last but not least is my favorite: the commanders orchestrating the genocide in Gaza, and many of the troops on the ground are NATO forces. Here is my favorite picture showing a handful of terrorists (US regime's Delta Force unit to be exact) that were deployed to occupied lands shortly after Operation Al-Aqsa Storm completely annihilated the Israeli genocide forces in matter of hours:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/07/31/UHskaN.jpeg (https://www.talkimg.com/image/UHskaN)
It is my favorite for two reasons, first is the fact that Biden was denying he has boots on the ground committing genocide in Gaza while this picture was out. And second is that every single terrorist in the Delta Force unit US regime deployed in Gaza was eliminated.

That's only a tiny portion of what I can post from memory! These are "donated" weapons and ammunitions. And it is separate from billions of dollars these NATO regimes take from European and American taxpayers and donate to this terrorist organization.
The only thing I can close this comment with is: "There are none so blind as those who will not see."


P.S. This site seems to have a good list of companies helping the genocide: https://afsc.org/gaza-genocide-companies

You understand everything perfectly well, which is why you so diligently and (I must give you credit here) quite skillfully twist facts and substitute concepts.

NATO is doing a very half-hearted job of helping Israel fight terrorists.

You are confronted with a man who is not a soft Western liberal and who is not intimidated by tolerance and cancel culture. I have lived in regimes that engage in propaganda all my life and I immediately see all the manipulative techniques in the narrative.
And I am telling you straight - you are a liar on the payroll of propagandists. You all have the same methodology and similar speech patterns.

besides, I know history, unlike the liberal youngsters you are trying to brainwash, I grew up in the worst communist country that literally created the Arab terrorists and sponsored terrorist regimes around the world. We literally created the Chinese communists, North Korea and supported and developed many other terrorists.

The USSR directly created the PLO, while providing huge support to Egypt, in these conditions new terrorist groups developed (for example, Hamas). In fact, Hamas is an Islamist reaction to the secular Palestinian movements supported by the USSR. The main goal of the USSR was, of course, to counter the West.
Oh, what a coincidence, your rhetoric has the same goal!

I've seen a lot of people like you, on Telegram, in official media, on Twitter... I've seen idiots like you since childhood.
Maybe? Maybe you used to fuck in the ass and now you make money on propaganda because your anus has become like a bucket. I'm not judging you, I'm just stating a fact.

just like Putin's media say that Russia is fighting NATO.
Another narrative coincidence, what a surprise!
(There is NATO equipment in Ukraine, that's true, but Ukrainians are operating this equipment.)


If I hit you with an American coffee grinder, does that mean you're fighting NATO?
The planes are flown by Israelis. The shooter button is pressed by Israelis. I think this question is close, at least for sane people. But you can certainly try to cackle on this topic some more.

see the previous point.
however, you cleverly (for naive Westerners) included here a categorical statement that "helicopters are used to kill civilians". This is not a bad manipulation, but not the best.

this is already boring.. are you going to list everything? Maybe toilet paper and coffee are also produced in the USA.
By this logic... now you are using an American PC, American Internet and an American operating system.

They were created specifically for Jews? How dare they, these Americans!

here I agree.. in general you are slowly starting to convince me..
By the way, fuel for airplanes is made from oil, which was formed from ancient plankton and algae. Planet Earth itself created oil. Therefore, Gaza is "at war" not only with NATO but also with ancient plankton and planet Earth.

You are right again. Moreover, the delivery of weapons occurs by air and water, they are also to blame for this.

oh, that's where you screwed up.
it turns out the israelis are trying to defend themselves.
at the same time you're depriving them of the right to defend themselves, your story is pretty clear.


blah blah blah.. same old same old.. boring.
but now we'll move on to more interesting things, right?
oh ho ho, I'm looking forward to it )))
So....

Bingo!!! Here it is! A complete match with the propaganda rhetoric of the Putin regime!

this is my favorite moment too!!
Putin's propaganda says the same thing about Ukraine:
- "Russia is not fighting with Ukraine but with NATO";
- "NATO is directly participating in military actions against Russia";
- "NATO troops are in Ukraine and are taking part in the war and in command of the Ukrainian army."
You are using the same narratives and the same tactics that the Putin regime uses in its propaganda.
Bravo, man, I applaud you standing, you have completely exposed yourself!

PS. Are you Iranian? Oh, you're a cool guy... you hate the Western world so much.. instead of building a country at home.
What was Iran like before the Islamic Revolution? Iran is helping our (Russian) Nazis attack Ukraine.
Or you're pretending to be Iranian.

Iran was a great country before fanatics took it over the same way Afghanistan was a great country before fanatical tyrants took it over. I hope the citizens of both these countries make both of these countries great again but unfortunately once fanatics take over they poison the minds of their citizens with the disease of Jihad. Why do western mainly former Christian nations tolerate these types of fanatics demanding mosques and equality for their religion all the while such demands would be met with violence if the shoe was on the other foot?

Israel understands well how fanatics will literally sacrifice every last citizen of their own in order to stay in power while Israel will literally bankrupt itself in order to go and find every last one of their citizens who were taken by force by these fanatics on Oct 7th.

The fanatics do not care about their citizens who are used like pawns in their games.

Let us ask the question again? If Hamas wants a ceasefire then why do they not release the hostages they still have taken captive? Why are the food banks raided before the trucks even reach their distribution points?

Interesting reactions. It appears that I revealed certain facts in my previous posts that struck a nerve, leading you to stoop down to this level of vulgarity. I wonder which one it was... hmm...

for me, religion is logic, common sense and truth. no matter how much I tried to convince myself before, at some point I admitted to myself that I am irritated by stupid people + lying propagandists. (stupid are not those who do not know something or make mistakes. Everyone can make mistakes. Stupid are those who stubbornly do not want to learn).
Therefore, yes, there will be some level of "vulgarity" in my words. Oh, and believe me, such "vulgarity" is still very polite on my part. I have absolutely no upbringing when I communicate with lying propagandists. With you, I still maintain some level of polite etiquette :)

Once, I thought that Russia could also become great, that our opposition would win…
But years passed, and things only got worse. My country attacked a neighboring nation.
So I left.
Here in Europe, I met an Iranian. He told me that he truly believes the Iranian opposition will win someday, and that Iran will become great again.
But I immediately thought of Russia — and how, in my country, it was the regime that won, not the people.

As for Hamas and its allies...
uh, their goal is obviously not to protect Palestinians (Iran doesn't care about Palestinians) and not to destroy Israel either (haha, Iran doesn't care about Israel).

So, let me explain some basic things about the propaganda of any totalitarian regime:
The goal of any totalitarian regime is to stay in power. And to do that, it must convince the people that the country has an enemy! A foreign enemy and a domestic enemy!
The foreign enemy became the West. But the West is strong, and it's also far away — hard to attack.
So Iran chose Israel — it's closer and much weaker than the West, easier to attack.
If Israel is destroyed, they’ll find a new enemy. It doesn’t matter who the enemy is — what matters is just having one, to help keep the regime in power.

There is also an internal enemy: the ordinary people who just want to live, love, and be free from imposed rules.
This is exactly how Germany under Hitler worked. This is exactly how the USSR worked.
And this is exactly how Russia lives today.

What nonsense.

Hamas started the war on December 7, 2023, when it specifically targeted Israeli civilians. Israel targets military targets, but Hamas uses civilians as human shields in order to increase Gazian civilian casualties from the war.  Israel warns civilians before targeting military targets, which sometimes results in the military targets moving away, and the civilians often ignore the warnings in order to attempt to dissuade Israel from following through on the targeting of the military targets (in which case, the civilians are no longer civilians).

Further, Israel is not allowing its enemy to cross its border, but it has nothing to do with restrictions on civilians crossing other borders, for example, the border that Gaza shares with Egypt. Egypt does not allow people of Gaza to cross its border because a very large percentage of the Gazan people are extremists and terrorists.

In summary, the deaths of civilians in Gaza are the direct result of actions by Hamas.

Persia was once a great and thriving civilization — known for its art, science, architecture, and tolerance.
Then Muslim conquerors took over, and the culture of the country changed dramatically.
Still, Iran continued to grow and prosper for centuries.

But in 1979, religious fanatics like you - pooya87 - took power and broke the country.
You turned it into a prison of hate.
And guess what? The Soviet Union actually helped that Islamist regime rise — not on purpose, but it happened.

Now here you are, sitting on an American forum, using a VPN (because most western websites are blocked in Iran), and lecturing the West.
We have people like you in Russia too. The worst kind.

You use Palestinians and Israelis — their lives and their children — to serve the ambitions of the regime you work for.
And your regime literally chants “Death to America.”

So no, pal, you don’t get to lecture me about “vulgarity.”
That’s like a servant of Hitler or Putin trying to teach me manners.

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Authors who lived under the totalitarian regime of the Soviet Union used science fiction as a way to bypass censorship and critically examine authoritarianism, manipulation, and the distortion of truth.

Among them were Arkady and Boris Strugatsky — legendary Russian writers who created a fictional universe often referred to as the Noon Universe (or World of Noon). This universe spans several books and explores advanced human civilization, moral dilemmas, and the ethics of interfering with less developed societies.

One book that stands out especially strongly for me is “Prisoners of Power” (original Russian title: Oбитaeмый ocтpoв / Obitaemyy ostrov). Although originally written in Russian, it has been translated into multiple languages.

If you want to understand how totalitarian systems operate, how they invent enemies, justify endless war, and manipulate mass consciousness — I recommend this book.

Obitaemyy ostrov (Oбитaeмый ocтpoв)
English: Prisoners of Power (sometimes also translated as The Inhabited Island)
German: Die bewohnte Insel
French: L'Île habitée
Spanish: La isla habitada
Italian: L'isola abitata
Polish: Zamieszkana wyspa



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The problem with all countries who allow their nations to be ruled by despots is that you have a loud majority of ignorant masses rule over a silent minority of intelligent reasonable & rational people and the despot uses the despot playbook to continuously pander to the populist view among whichever mob of ignorant masses is most useful at any given time while demonising any minority who may one day become a threat to this scheme.


I read a version by Andrew Bromfield years ago and it certainly allows the reader an insight into how the soviet unions regime played the power game with its masses in a clever way that make the reader question that system as an individual back in the day.


The desposts always need to control the narrative. They will always come after freedom of speech,choice and expression if it does not agree with the narrative and will use whatever established threat or non sequitur the gullible and ignorant masses who are too lazy to be objective or too cowardly to question , will swallow at that particular time either by increasing this threat level or mass hysteria about this phantom enemy if no actual threat can be proven.

Navalny's book patriot is also an interesting read but have yet to finish it in order to draw a full conclusion.

I only know that Europe would be a whole lot stronger and safer with Germany, France and Russia underwriting its security together in a union of states than the situation we have today where Russia is close allies with communists and Islamist fanatical regimes.

It is very unfortunate and it seems both Europe and Russia are the only losers in this situation.

Oh, it's hardly reasonable to seriously consider Russia as a guarantor of security or an ally.
Many people there openly hate and despise other countries — including Asian ones.
I escaped from that country, and I know what I’m talking about.

Russia is filled with endless nationalism, xenophobia, and chauvinism.
Russians even invented a special term to refer to second-class people: “nerusskiy” (which literally means non-Russian).
In their worldview, anyone who isn’t ethnically Russian is considered inferior.
Even inside Russia, there are many citizens who are not ethnic Russians — and they are all called nerusskiye, regardless of their legal status.

It’s hard to convey the difference in English between “rossiyanin” (a citizen of Russia) and “russkiy” (an ethnic Russian), because both are usually translated simply as Russian.
But this distinction is crucial. In the Russian nationalist mindset, russkiye are the superior race;
non-Russian Russians (i.e., citizens of Russia who are not ethnically Russian) are second-class;
and foreigners are third-class, or worse.

So no — Russians are very unlikely to become real allies of Europe anytime soon.
Especially when Russia has spent many years openly threatening to destroy Europe with nuclear weapons —
a fantasy many Russians to genuinely enjoy imagining.
Russia even shows contempt for its own allies.
They refer to Chinese people using racist slurs like "yellow narrow-eyes",
to Arabs using the word "churka" — which originally means a chunk of wood used for chopping into firewood,
and to Jewish people using the slur "zhid".

Such an “ally” will always consider Europeans to be degenerates and will stab them in the back at the first opportunity,
attacking the weak — just as Russia has done with several other countries it invaded.

However, Turkey has a far better chance of becoming a true ally of Europe.

That is not correct.

Firstly, eveytime you mention terrorism I think of how Iran keeps supporting Hamas, Hezbolah and the Hutis with money and weapons. You should think twice about complaning about others "barbarism".

Secondly, Iran used to be friendly to Israel. One reason why Israel has completely infiltrated the Iranian goverment is because there are many Israelis that speak perfect Farsi because there used to be a significan Jew population in Iran.

The only problem that Iran has at this point is not ISIS or AL-Quaeda, it is the iranian regime.

Oh, I missed this wonderful moment.
What a miss... Oh pooya87, my gentle, sweet, tender little piglet, now we will fix that)))

So, here you are blatantly and shamelessly twisting concepts, turning everything upside down, calling Iran’s life before 1979 a dictatorship, and the current regime a democracy. This rhetoric is clearly aimed at naive Europeans and Americans who know absolutely nothing about Iran’s history and current situation.
Who among Westerners will go check this? I don’t know... maybe very few.

Why is your rhetoric manipulative, and how will I easily prove it? Because “democracy” has never been the goal of the Islamic regime. Any democracy is an enemy of modern Iran. There is no democracy in Iran now - Iran is a THEOCRACY. Democracy is hated and considered hostile by Iran’s ruling elite.

As for the so-called “support for the oppressed” - hahaha, this is one of my favorite topics! It’s great you brought it up, you’ve exposed yourself again!

“Support for the oppressed” has roots in Soviet Communist propaganda (oh yes, you asked “what does Russia have to do with it?” Oh yes, baby, I will feed you your own shit, enjoy).

The Soviet Union propagated “support for oppressed peoples” around the world for decades! But in practice, this “support” meant pitting oppressed countries against their neighbors or the Western world. The USSR tried to build an anti-Western coalition by literally buying and sponsoring any terrorists and regimes that could be considered anti-Western (according to the USSR).

And guess what? “Support for the oppressed” is now part of the political leftist agenda in the West, especially spreading in the US under Biden’s administration.

Oh yes, leftist propaganda is very effective among uneducated Europeans and Americans, especially among those who see themselves as oppressed (LGBTQ+, queers, non-binary, etc.).
(And let Europeans and Americans not take offense at these words - I’m stating facts. Leftist propaganda has penetrated even educated people with higher education. By “uneducated” I mean lack of broad knowledge, historical awareness, and critical thinking).

The irony is that all these “oppressed” people, if they found themselves in Iran, would first be beaten and then brutally publicly executed.
Moreover, human rights - especially women’s rights - in Iran are... how to put it... very, very, very bad.

So you are just spreading a Soviet leftist propaganda copy designed to gain the trust and sympathy of Western leftists.
And due to their lack of education, this propaganda is even successful!

As for terrorist regimes, here is a list of known terrorist regimes and organizations that receive or have received support from Iran (direct or indirect — military, financial, political, ideological):

Terrorist organizations supported by Iran

1. Hezbollah - Lebanon
Recognized as a terrorist organization in the US, EU, Canada, and several Arab countries.
Receives massive military, financial, and political support from Iran.
2. Hamas - Palestine/Gaza
Recognized as a terrorist organization in the US, EU, Canada, Israel, and other countries.
In the Arab world, the attitude is complex: Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, and Egypt criticize and condemn Hamas’s violence, and Egypt officially bans the organization.
Receives military, financial, and political support from Iran.
3. Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
Recognized as a terrorist organization in the US, EU, Canada, UK, and Australia.
In Arab countries, it is considered a destabilizing factor with no official legal recognition.
Receives direct support from Iran.
4. Houthis (Ansar Allah) - Yemen
Recognized as terrorists by Saudi Arabia, UAE, and some other Arab countries.
Temporarily recognized as terrorists by the US.
Receive weapons, funding, and military assistance from Iran.
5. Kata’ib Hezbollah - Iraq
Recognized as a terrorist organization in the US and other countries.
Receives support from Iran.
6. Asa’ib Ahl al-Haq - Iraq
Supported by Iran financially and militarily.
7. Harakat al-Nujaba - Iraq
Linked to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), receives aid from Iran.
8. Fatemiyoun Brigade - Afghan Shia mercenaries in Syria
Under IRGC control, used in the Syrian conflict.
9. Zainabiyoun Brigade - Pakistani Shia mercenaries in Syria
Supported by Iran.
10. Shia militants in Bahrain
Financed and supported by Iran, targeted against the Sunni ruling power.
11. Taliban (at certain periods) - Afghanistan
Previously hostile to Iran, but had moments of tactical cooperation in 2020–2021 against the US.
12. Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) - Quds Force division
Designated as a terrorist organization in the US, Canada, Israel, and several Arab countries.
Coordinates and finances many of the groups listed above.

Support for authoritarian and repressive regimes

13. Bashar al-Assad regime - Syria (actually fell)
Main Iranian ally in the region, with support including military advisors, funding, and arms supplies.
What a coincidence - Putin also supported Assad
14. Vladimir Putin’s regime - Russia
Iran supplies strike drones, munitions, and technology.
Helps circumvent international sanctions.
Conducts intelligence cooperation.
Iran is practically helping Putin’s regime kill Ukrainians.
15. North Korea
Military technology exchange and sanctions evasion assistance.
16. Daniel Ortega regime - Nicaragua
Political and diplomatic support, anti-American coordination.
17. Nicolás Maduro regime - Venezuela
Fuel supplies, technology, political support, and joint sanctions evasion efforts.

Additional important facts
Hamas and Islamic Jihad are recognized as terrorist organizations in several Arab countries — Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain — especially after terrorist attacks and conflicts with their interests.
The Muslim Brotherhood is designated a terrorist organization in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and some other countries, though supported by Qatar and Turkey.
Many of these countries take a tough stance against Iranian influence in the region and view Iran as a security threat.

I saw some interesting statistics today that shows what the real people in the West think of their own barbaric regimes.


That news alone doesn't really mean much, but when you put it together with the following stats from a Zionist mouthpiece, things change:


583 newborn brits were named after the leader of the resistance in Gaza aka HAMAS who fought the Israeli terrorists all his life and gave his life defending his home, Palestine.

So when you see members of Zionists Unit 8200 and al-Qaeda sympathizers hiding behind anonymous accounts are desperately trying to derail this topic and other topics like this all over the internet to talk about literally anything but the genocide in Gaza, the real people in the real world are seeing things very differently. Which proves Units like 8200 and even mouthpieces like the second link I shared above are obsolete and a waste of funds ;)

The masks have fallen off already and people have seen the true face of Zionists... The Zionists know this very well, which is why they are getting increasingly more radical in their posts...

oh yeah, you're great.
statistics are great proof!
but there's a small "but" that affects the statistics themselves: the number of Muslim emigrants in Britain has increased.
(oh, you can also take into account the liberal British, whom you and your Iran hate.. but the liberals don't know about this and support Hamas and emigration).
Therefore, since the number of people supporting Hamas and considering them "freedom fighters" has increased, it's logical that the statistics of newborn names are changing.

But how does that prove that “people have seen the true face of the Zionists”?
It doesn’t. You’re just drawing conclusions out of thin air.
If a large number of Russians move to Britain, newborns there will start getting Russian names too.

and yet again pooya is endlessly saying its palestinians fighting nato...

palestinians are the citizens, they are not fighting anyone... however its HAMAS that are instigating the war. HAMAS are the ones at issue in this war.. pooya always tries to avoid describing/talking about hamas as much as possible. he wants to detract and distract from reality

isreal want peace with palestinians, isreal have made several attempts at such. palestinians want peace.. however its HAMAS that dont want peace. its hamas that decline to sign peace deals

pooya loves and has pride and adoration in hamas, houthi and iranian supreme leaders attacks.. he loves the extremist groups.. but whenever he pushes a certain narrative he tries to avoid mentioning the groups and instead he plays propaganda games of trying to show crocodile tears and imaginary emotional violin playing to push a false narrative of whom is fighting whom and who gets swept up in the mess caused

so here's the facts
palestinians are not waging war on isreal. isreals intended targets are not innocent palestinians. its a isreal vs hamas war. where palestinians are swept up in the mess. isreal try to send aid, try to send warning to the innocent palestinians. isreal try to get peacedeals and try to get palestinians to reform a new peaceful government in gaza. but its hamas that are causing the trouble and preventing peace, preventing aid distribution and causing unneeded death

I saw list of terrorist organisations on this thread but I wasn't able to see name of Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant whose arrest warrants are issued by ICC for following reasons:


It's responsibility of every country to respect the judgement of ICJ but in April this year we saw the Hungary governments withdrawing itself from International Criminal Court (ICC) just to facilitate visit of Benjamin Netanyahu to Hungary(BBC) (https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c807lm2003zo). This act has a symbolic meaning that Hungary an EU member stands with a person who is accused of war crimes in Gaza.

On daily basis we hear stories of barbarism in GAZA. Recent story is disclosed by GHF whistleblower, Anthony Aguilar, a United States Army veteran. He tells that, a 12 year old kid in Gaza named Amir has to travel 12 km barefoot just to collect the aid and moments after he collect the left overs in aid distribution centre he was shot dead by Israel soldiers(yahoo) (https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ghf-whistleblower-says-boy-killed-161619557.html). This is just a glimpse of whats going on in GAZA, there are many stories that are still hidden.

These stories are of no use because the world is still silent after listening so many such stories for almost two years.

I’ve already shown above that pooya87 is not just a random user sharing a personal opinion.
pooya87 is an Iranian propagandist, deliberately and systematically spreading narratives that serve Iran’s interests.
However, he didn’t expect to encounter someone from the very country that once helped create, fund, and spread terrorist groups around the world — the USSR.

I’m not proud of my country. You could say this is my way — my attempt — to make things right and tell the truth.
At first, I did it for fun, but over time I realized how serious this really is.

pooya87 is a skilled propagandist. His words are crafted for naive, “progressively woke” minds in Europe and the U.S. — people unfamiliar with history, especially that of the USSR and communism.

that guys story was debunked already

he only worked 28 days and was sacked because of poor performance because whilst being highly paid as security for aid distributors, he spent most of those 28 days relaxing in a hotel instead of his duties.
he tried to re apply, giving praise to the team he worked with and platitudes.. but was rejected and sent an onslaught of messages saying he could be the contractors best friend or worse enemy. they still didnt take be back
he then started making up a story of a incident which he supposedly witnessed during his 28 day employment, which checking reports and data, he was saying things that were described differently to actual events
the day he describes was perceived by him to be him on duty AT A distribution site and atrocities happened. however reality is far different

bad things happened but not at the distribution site he claimed to have been at. instead he heard something bad happened NEAR a distribution site where an ambush happened but tried to portray a story that it happened AT a distribution site he was supposed to be at.

the account was that he worked at the distribution site that day and was having a peaceful lengthy conversation with a kid who told him about the town he came from the length of the journey to get to the site and other detail and how the guy peacefully and happily handed him his rations parcel and seen the child walk away before bad things happened

however,
A: food distributors dont have time to have lengthy conversations
B: distributors didnt even manage to get to the distribution site that day
c: the ambush happened en-route not at a distribution site

other evidence gathered showed that the guy pretended to have sent memo's and stuff in May(during his employment) but the metadata and other time related data put the date of these memos and conversation in late june, the same time he went to media with his fabrications

this account/narrative. first sparked media to say about attack AT distribution site, but days later even media changed the narrative to mention NEAR, to correct their own media publications, so even they found holes in his story

..
yes a ambush happened but the guy was not present to know any details
yes an ambush happened but not at a distribution site
yes an ambush happened but not an event where any guy was having casual conversations with kids
yes an ambush happened but the people blocking the aid trucks route and then swarming the trucks and removing food provoked the security on the trucks to first give vocal warnings and then warning shots and then started throwing pepper spray and then gun fire
yes people died, but wasnt as polite, civil, and peaceful encounter pre incident as the guy portrayed

the guy heard about an incident but didnt know enough details to back it up convincingly

A truly interesting story.
But what’s the first thing we see at the top of the article?
Al Jazeera!

Here’s what you should know about Al Jazeera:

It was founded and is funded by the state of Qatar.
Yes, the same Qatar that directly funds Hamas — whose leaders literally live in Qatar.
It has two editorial divisions:
 - Al Jazeera Arabic — more emotional, anti-Israel, and Arab-centric.
 - Al Jazeera English — more restrained, targeted at Western audiences.

Ideological stance:
Al Jazeera often criticizes Israel, the U.S., Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE — especially after 2011.
It supported the Arab Spring and groups like the Muslim Brotherhood, putting it at odds with more conservative Arab regimes (like Egypt and Saudi Arabia).
It has also published content sympathetic to Iran, Hamas, and Islamic Jihad, raising concerns about indirect support for pro-Iranian narratives.

So can we trust Al Jazeera? Of course we can!
Can propagandists ever lie? Obviously not… right?

Now, let’s break down the article itself:
1. Source: A “former GHF employee” (Anthony Aguilar) shared a story in Al Jazeera and other outlets.
Claim: A boy named Amir allegedly walked 12 km to get food, kissed the hand of a humanitarian worker, received aid, walked away — and was shot minutes later by an Israeli sniper.
There’s no confirmed name, no photo, no video, no independent verification — just an emotional interview.
So far, no objective evidence. This story functions solely as an emotional propaganda tool.

2. The narrative structure feels very familiar. It reminds me of another story — one most Western “woke” liberals don’t know about:
The story of the "Crucified Boy in Underwear" (2014)
Source: Russian state Channel One (Anna Nevskaya, July 12, 2014).
Claim: Ukrainian soldiers in Sloviansk (a Ukrainian city) supposedly crucified a 3-year-old boy on a bulletin board in front of a crowd, forcing his mother to watch him die.
There was no photo, no video, no corpse, and no eyewitnesses. Journalists and human rights observers sent to Sloviansk found no evidence at all.
In fact, the supposed “local resident” giving the interview had appeared in multiple other pro-Kremlin staged videos. Her husband was a militant fighting for the Russian-backed "DNR" separatists.
Conclusion: A fabricated story — used to demonize Ukrainian forces and justify Russia’s invasion.
Here are the sources:
Wikipedia (russian) (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D1%8F%D1%82%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BA)
Wikipedia (english) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucified_boy)
EUvsDisinfo article (https://euvsdisinfo.eu/anniversary-the-crucified-boy-turns-two/)

My explanations:
The propaganda model used by the USSR and Putin’s regime always follows the same formula: a constant stream of emotional lies.
These stories exploit human empathy — especially among those who never verify what they’re told.

The trick is quantity: bury people in stories so their critical thinking gives up.
And even when a story is disproven, the correction comes too late — by then, ten more lies have already gone viral.
Most people never read the corrections anyway.

Ironically, Europeans often seem more naive than Soviet citizens ever were.
And many Europeans today carry a guilt complex for their nations’ colonial past — especially Germans.

Soviet and Russian propagandists have long cooperated with Arab extremists and anti-Western regimes, helping spread their anti-Western narratives.
The Arab world has been an excellent student of this approach.

Here’s a great short article exposing Kremlin propaganda tactics:
The Kremlin’s tale of the European bogeyman (https://euvsdisinfo.eu/the-kremlins-tale-of-the-european-bogeyman/)

Putin's regime again? Maybe nobody cares.
But the similarities between Russian (Putinist) and Iranian anti-Western propaganda are striking.

But as usual you suffer the most massive Dunning-Kruger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect) I have ever seen on this forum.

Hammas is (was?) the government in Palestine and a large chunk of the population elected them. Israel was quite happy to have Hammas until the dog released itself from the leash.

You seem so uterly confused about most things in the world that I am starting to wonder if you do it on purpose.


Pooya, you are outdoing yourself on this one ;D ;D

You know what people in "the West" think about their leaders?  You just have to wait, because people simply speak with their votes.

It is more evident every time you speak about political systems that you are not only not educated in politics, but rather have gone through a full process of miss-education.

Democracy Now: Weekend news briefing followed with an interview with Rashid Khalidi (Author, professor, middle east historian)
https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2025/8/4

to clarify:
qatar are not the funders.. think of them more as "being switzerland"
they play the unregulated middleman. the place money moves through unwatched, where it can be washed and moved on

iran fund hamas but use qatar as the laundering service
qatar do house many leaders of different terror groups,
so treat qatar as the safe haven for diplomacy, non extradition and laundering. such as money, sanction and tax evasion

it has become the nexus and meeting place where opposing sides meet to mediate or just hide out

Let me then ask you something. If the Mossad is able to kill half of the Hezbola leadership by something as difficult as putting explosives in they personal communication devices, how is it that Hamas could pull a Dec 7 attack and go unnoticed.

Could it actually be that Israel has now the perfect excuse to kill as many Gazans as possible and then argue that they need to relocate - (and never come back) for humanitarian reasons?

All this is so convenient for Netanyahu - who will face charges the moment he leaves government - that is just silly to think this is about this particular terror attack by Hamas.

The current government of Israel has an agenda and it is becoming clear that it is about making life impossible for Palestinians in the strip.

The Israeli aggression in Gaza is still ongoing. Even in 2025, we are witnessing hundreds of innocent children dying of hunger and malnutrition. This is a humiliating situation for the entire world. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that they want to take control of Gaza to isolate Hamas, so why are small children being killed indiscriminately? Why has the entire Gaza Strip been reduced to rubble? In fact, everyone, including America and NATO, wants the country of Palestine to be wiped off the map. They want to destroy the entire Palestinian nation so that no Palestinian will survive in the future. That's why they are systematically killing all kinds of people living in Gaza. Many such videos and pictures have been published in the media. I think that maybe someone is killing small children so that they don't have a future generation. And America has always been planning to establish its power in different parts of the world for years, considering that aspect, we can say with absolute certainty that they are trying to maintain their dominance in the Middle East by creating an unstable situation through Israel.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/8/7/live-israel-kills-13-in-attacks-since-dawn-as-five-starve-to-death-in-gaza

The World Health Organization says that the airdrop method of providing relief is more dangerous but I think this method is more suitable considering the starving situation in Gaza because hundreds of relief trucks are waiting and they are not allowed to enter Gaza. Although a small number are entering, the starving resident of Gaza who come to receive relief are being shot indiscriminately. This is another horrific form of genocide. Netanyahu's plan is to expand the state of Israel by occupying Gaza and destroy the Palestinian population forever so that the new generation cannot survive. This is a far-reaching plans how to eliminate an entire nation. Most Western countries including NATO are shamelessly supporting them in achieving this goal.

147 out of 193 UN member states have recognised the State of Palestine as a sovereign state, which is more than 75%. Recently, Spain, France, and the United Kingdom have decided to recognise a separate state for the Palestinians.

The Gaza health authorities have published a report that so far about 200 people including about 96 children have died of starvation that is very shameful for modern civilization. Western countries pride themselves on being the civilized nations of the world but they are the ones supporting Israel and helping it carry out genocide with weapons. What a strange humanity!

Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/7/famine-kills-nearly-200-in-gaza-amid-apocalyptic-battle-for-survival

Israel is still continuing its aggression in Gaza. So far, perhaps about more or less 100k  innocent people have been killed. Israel has announced that it will militarily occupy the largest city in the Gaza. Because of which all the people living there have now been asked to move south. But the people of Gaza do not want to leave their land. But if the way they are being forced to move is not successful, I think they can continue to kill more people there. Some residents living there have said that they have changed their position several times so far. If they continue to torture ordinary innocent people like this, then after a while there may not be a nation called Palestine. All the Muslim countries of the world should unite and take action against Israel. The United Nations or America have always been on Israel's side. I think the United Nations has ruined the most innocent lives at the cost of human rights and the impact of that is the most on the innocent Palestinians.

source : https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/8/faced-death-100-times-palestinians-spurn-israel-plan-to-occupy-gaza-city

The United Nations Security Council held an emergency meeting after Israel's security cabinet approved Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's plan to seize control of Gaza City. UN Assistant Secretary-General Miroslav Jenca warned this would trigger another calamity, forcibly displacing up to 800,000 Palestinians and many already displaced multiple timesand causing further regional destabilization . Netanyahu defended the operation as the best way to end the war speedily, claiming it targets Hamas's last strongholds (Gaza City and al-Mawasi) and vowing to proceed with or without international support . Despite promises of safe zones for civilians, reports confirm Israeli-backed aid groups have repeatedly fired on aid seekers, killing dozens .
Source: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/10/un-warns-of-calamity-as-netanyahu-pushes-for-israel-to-seize-gaza-city

Are we really seeing hundreds of children dying specifically from hunger, or are we just trusting the "Ministry of Health of Gaza," which is entirely run by Hamas?
Again, I recognize the style of Soviet propaganda: presenting information confidently but without evidence.
Al Jazeera has clearly learned this lesson well and uses Soviet propaganda techniques.
(Oh, but where did the USSR get these propaganda methods from? For those interested, we can dig deeper into history — yes, the USSR learned these methods from Nazi Germany.)
Emotional and empathetic people without critical thinking skills trust such presentations of information.
And no one is bothered by the presence of adults in Gaza who are not thin at all, and even overweight.
I’ve been doing sports for many years and have deep knowledge of metabolism; I can confidently say that in starvation, adults cannot maintain muscle mass — their muscles undergo catabolism.

Moreover, the UN delivers tens of tons of food to Gaza... so where does it go? Why is it eaten by adults?

The only thing I agree with pooya87 on is that the Western world is doomed... due to its stupidity.

PS. bitcointalk is being turned into a platform for al-jazeera )))

A civilised adult would ensure the most vulernable as in pregnant women, infants, old people are fed first as a priority. It is astonishing how the mobs of strong aggressive males act like zoo animals towards these convoys ....unless they are battling to get food and supplies for the most vulnerable although I would imagine a large portion of this UN aid is being sold on for a tidy profit.

There needs to be order brought to Gaza and an actual form of administration that takes care of the citizens instead of using them for political gain.

You will discover that some were eating and throwing away, while in some other places, people are there starving in hunger, most especially the children who were innocent of what's going on, we live in a world, whereby the rich that has cows will only take the one and only chicken a poor man had and feast on it, leaving his own herds untouched, which is the best interpretation to what is happening in the world today, being the survival of the fittest, many are dying daily and no one cares for them, because everyone is after his selfish ambition.

What are you smoking actually and who is your dealer?
IDF itself claimed they killed 14000 Hamas soldiers and organisations works in Gaza confirmed that at least 83% of total killed people's are civilians. So what are you talking about?

;D
you answered your own words ))
organizations working in Gaza ))) they consist of members of Hamas or supporters of Hamas.
they have perfectly mastered and developed the propaganda of the USSR: lie.. even more lies.. lie often and as much as possible.

When you believe that organisations like WHO, UN works for Hamas, you should realize that you are on the wrong side. It is irony that your profile says Glory to Ukraine but you also want glory for Israel. What kind creature do I have to see in This world? What a barbaric massacre it is and what kind of evil people there are.

Oh well, you believe IDF lied as well? That's good.

America and  the  Organizations like  United Nations have always worked to keep all the countries of the Muslim world in fear. Fueled by America and NATO, a country like Israel alone is creating instability in the entire Middle East. All the other countries of the world and the non-Muslim people in the world are also speaking against Israel and expressing their opinions against the innocent killings in Gaza. Even then, they are not stopping. America has constantly supported Israel with all kinds of support and has turned it against all the Muslim countries in the Middle East. America always wants to have a hegemony in the middle. America creates instability directly or through other countries and takes control of that country or the surrounding areas in the name of security in any region. This is a technique that America has been using for a long time. Even after various countries understand these issues, they often fall into their trap because America is the most powerful and economically prosperous country in the world, and everyone seems to have positioned themselves as puppets in America's hands. Israel is constantly attacking Gaza. A recent attack killed about 61 innocent people in Gaza (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/28/israel-steps-up-bombardment-of-gaza-city-killing-at-least-24-people). On 27-8-2025, 14 members of the UN Security Council voted against Israel, but America was not  (https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/all-un-security-council-members-except-us-say-famine-gaza-is-man-made-crisis-2025-08-27/)among them because America always wants Israel to isolate the country called Gaza.

wow so much to correct here
im a brit and athiest but lets deal with the details before the disilusioned try to pretend im some american jew or whateve dumb things they want to say

actually america made alot of money doing deals in the middle east to get oil.

actually with the ottoman empire and how eastern europe and even britain messed around with the region, such as the british mandatory agreement to recognise "palestine" in the 1920's and then britain revoking it in the late 1940's which then with the middle east (isreal and arab neighbours) came to an armistice agreement

isreal have offered so  many attempts of peace, via cease-fire, peace deals, treaties and accords.. however certain terror factions whom dont represent the majority of peaceful islamist/arabians. but due represent the radicalist jihadi's have taken over area's and tried to turn lands into battlefields and incite wars
majority of arabs want peace no matter their religion, but they are underfoot of their supreme leaders whom have other agenda's, agenda's that dont allow the civilians to just vote them out after a few years.


which middle eastern country has a american based government?.. none
what you have to realise is that the tehran rgime(irans supreme leader) want to re-ignite a persian empire and are the ones using proxies such as the houthis, hamas, hezballah militias and jihadi's to play political lawfare and atrocious warfare, which ends up hurting the arabian citizens more so than "america"

america is not the most powerful and economically prosperous country in the world even if the red hat says it want to make it again


isreal unlike the tehran regime and proxies. sends warnings, gives time for evacuations and although death numbers are co-mingled with hamas troops and affiliates. the number of deaths can be more attributed to hamas's tactics of playing lawfare and cowardly hiding in area's that put civilians at risk

normal wars would see troops leave civilian area's leave their families and go to war at borders and battlefields far from civilians and families. but hamas tactics are to hide amungst civilians and families, hiding weapons in childrens bedrooms, hospitals, schools, and tunnels beneath cities of dense population, trying to bring the fight inwards to the civilians.

the UN wants to play peacekeeper, trying to recognise hamas as the legit government of gaza, placating to hamas to not fall on hamas's bad side. letting hamas take over hospitals and make it become military posts/strongholds. then pretending that the deaths of hamas troops and affiliates that remain loyal and close and refuse to leave for safety, be treated as legal martyrs of the hamas cause but designated as 'innocent civilians' by suggesting the targetting of hamas was unneeded due to the other casualties hamas held near to be used as human shields and cannon fodder

Lately I have noticed something interesting and disturbing and sad going on in social media, it seems the UNESCO and world organization for children are doubling down on their efforts to collect funding to bring money in , so they can get some food for the children trapped in gaza.
There is a lot of advertisement being push on social media, specially on Instagram and Tiktok, people living in gaza being shown as starving people, children unable to move because of the famine and sickness becoming widespread in the strip... it is very heart-breaking.

It makes me wonder if big technological companies are being solidarity with the people of palestine and allowing those ads to be shown in their social media for free and in order to free with no interest in mind or humanitarian organizations are paying those companies for advertisement room between reels... if the latter is the case, then it si kind of risky to invest money on collecting more from people around the internet, people who has already grown insensitive to the whole situation going on there.

Whatever the case, the fact people of palestine are at the mercy of charity only shows how dire this situation is for people living there.

what you will next find is when you look into the accounts of these NGO's and notice the wide difference between the income vs how much ends up at the front line

I think it is pretty much a similar situation with what happened in Haiti, then they suffered a very strong earthquake which crippled the country, there were numerous campaigns to fund help for those who had lost their access to food, shelter and water, but much of the money did not get towards those who needed it the most, it was quite an scandals amount those who were aware of the problem.

Anyways, there is little that can be done and those who donated at least have the hope part of the money will reach the front.

While the two keyboard warriors are trying to convince everyone else that their beloved terrorist organization Israel is not a terrorist organization, the Israeli terrorists are being neutralized by the dozen every day inside Gaza.

For example last night when the NATO-backed Israeli terrorists entered the al-Zeitun neighborhood as part of their genocide operation inside Gaza, they faced the hardest resistance and were hit hard. According to the Hebrew mouthpieces, it was the bloodiest day for the Zionists as they faced the largest number of armed Resistance forces to the day. They claim that the HAMAS resistance fighters have taken 4 more Israeli terrorists prisoner and have eliminated 11 more of these child-killers in this single operation.

NATO and their helicopters couldn't achieve anything either as the Resistance surface to air projectiles targeted the genocidal air force of the enemy...

The Resistance had already given the invaders a choice: Arrest or Death

It is worth adding that the Zionist terrorists activated their Hannibal Directive and have heavily bombed their own armed criminals hoping to kill them before they are arrested by the Palestinian Resistance forces!

and pooya is so proud of hamas
but hamas's days are numbered.
.. then a peaceful palestinian civilian political group will govern gaza. peace deals will be brokered. elections will be done and rebuilding will begin

then what will pooya have left to talk about when his war rage itch cant be satisfied, im guessing he will support the houthi's again, or move onto another continents militants.

And so, for those of you who are proud of Israel, if Israel were led by just and humane leaders, they would withdraw their intention to expand their ancestral lands of unknown origin, simply because they demand historical ownership.

Would you do the same?

the british mandated the borders, but the borders have known ancestrial origins (land of isreal(isrealites)and judea) even palestinians have known ancestrial origins, that are of the philistines. isreal have also given up ancient claims of certain regions to lebanon and syria
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the isreali's sent in the aid to gaza, and are trying to remove a terror jihadi genocide theological group.. so that a peaceful palestinian party can govern it
the isreali's have offered multiple peace deals, treaties, ceasefire options, accords.. what has hams offered.. oh yes genocide slogans "death to isreal, death to america"

isreal do not want to govern gaza, nor have genocidal intent, if they did, then 2 years of closing the borders would have meant everyone would have been dead by now.. but palestinians in gaza remain a strong 2m population. isreal just want to remove hamas, so that a peaceful palestinian party can govern it so that isreal and palestinians can co-exist, work and socialise together

hamas and their sponsors(the tehran regime) want these things:
"death to isreal and america"
reprise of the persian empire of 100% arabian government control of all middle eastern lands

the tehran regime thats sponsoring hamas are not the ones trying to send aid to feed the innocent palestinians in gaza for free
the hamas terror group oppressing gaza are not the ones trying to feed the innocent palestinians in gaza for free

hamas treat palestinians as below human, as second class, using them as human shields, cannon fodder and pawns for the tehran regime
no warnings, no alerts, no suggestions to move to safer places. hamas just take over area's and coerce people to remain with hamas in promise of money for their families for martyrdom and promises of those that die would get open access to the next life. using peoples homes, schools, hospitals for military operations, and then leave boobytraps behind afterwards, making it difficult/impossible for families to return after, without a complete demolition and rebuild

isreal send warnings give suggestions for safer places to move to, send aid, and are giving compensations and peacedeals that things will be rebuilt and a palestinian authority will govern gaza once hamas are gone

hamas will steal supplies that were meant for palestinians, and if palestinians try to repatriate the food, palestinians are treated as looters and executed

do you really want hamas's continual governing via military action of gaza or do you want a civilian political party coming to peace and rebuild gaza for palestinians
do you want a peaceful palestinian party be handed compensations to distribute to all those affected by the war
or do you want hamas using compensations to only pay out if people declare their martyrdom supporting hamas's continuation

yep hamas give money to families if they show loyalty to hamas enough to risk their lives and be used as human shields. whilst the money was suppose to be used to rebuild and cover living costs for those innocent people who died consequentially as collateral damage due to the war

It's law of nature that 'only truth prevails'. The atrocities and genocide which Israel is doing for years will not legitimise it's illegal occupation. Hamas and other freedom fighting moments gained momentum only because the local Palestinians can't bear the pain of Israeli atrocities anymore.   

Hamas came into power after winning elections in 2006 and they the right to rule. Hamas is not accepted to Israel and West because they refuse to be their puppet like 'Fatah' party. Their is genocide going on in Gaza for last 2 year and has anyone seen 'Mahmoud Abbas' taking any measures to at least tell the world what Israel is doing?




 

A Brit who can barely write intelligible English sentences, that’s very funny.


More gaslighting. You’re accused of being a Zionist, not of being Jewish. If you can’t make a distinction between either of these because you think all Jews want to kill Muslim and Christian children, you just might be a virulent racist.

Hypocrites everywhere. Some Western governments are proposing to recognize Palestine, but they still sell or give arms to Israel to continue the genocide. There might be no Palestinian state to recognise if this genocide continues.  We are tired of the words of condemnation of these attacks by nations and international organisations. It's time for action. Stop the sale of arms, sanctions should be imposed, and civilians should be protected by all means.

before poking at the hamas sympathier once again..
as to the topic: its actually majority western support that is feeding gaza.. now go find how much food the tehran regime+proxies sends into gaza. it will enlighten you who are the real barbarians



if you even had a clue about anything, you would know your endless rants to include the buzzword zionist, are void of any meaning

zionism is the pursuit of establishing a jewish settlement.. so your buzzword is actually about being related to 'jews'(religion) rather than nationalities(judean/isreali's)..
.. but do you know the big part of why your buzzword is empty of meaning..
.. its because there is no pursuit to establish a jewish settlement in the land known as isreal.. because.. (take a deep breath).. it has already been established. so you are a few millennia, centuries, decades and years too late.

jews and isreali's always had settlements in the region known as isreal. its the disillusion of some jihadi terror group supporters that cant even be bothered to look at history to know this
the funny part is you dont even want to try to learn the different factions, clans, races, religions or theologies of different groups. as this and other topics you speak in clearly show. if you did, you would know that jewish people are the descendents of the people of judea.. not the isrealites. and yep they successfully co-mingled and settled in the area and joined with the isrealites a long time ago.
so that zionist pursuit ended along time ago, successfully.. the buzzword only later came about in the 19th century to pretend there was some grey area or pretend history never happened. pretending there were no, have been none, and wont be jewish settlements in the region.. purely to push a arabian control narrative sponsored by the likes of terhans persian empire pursuits.. but that only lasted a quarter century of propaganda, and has again been void of meaning again for over 75 years
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anyway
isreali's (of many religions including jewish but not limited to) actually do want peace and co-existence with neighbouring arabs, and multiple religions.. whether it be syria, lebanon, jordan, or descendants of the ancient philistines in gaza(modern palestinians). whether it be christian, jewish or muslim.. heck they are even happy for peaceful arabs of many nations and creeds to co-mingle for work and leisure and socialising and live amongst isreali's

take a look at the different peace deals, treaties, accords..

it is however the jihadi terror groups sponsored by the modern tehran regime that want genocide and to govern all of the middle east as an empire.

so do try to learn abit more about history and details that are a matter of fact in the past and present. it will enlighten you.
dont just try grabbing clickbait from social media.

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as for me, i dont care what religion isreali's follow, nor palestinians, heck not even the wider arab population, what i care about is looking beyond the clutter of crap media click bait and its propaganda. and actually getting to the facts of certain matters to get to a position where things are corrected, and intelligence and facts are used to find peace between people fighting over things they have been misled by, before things are irreversible

you certainly have been indoctrinated into the propaganda machine of the modern tehran regime that wants to pursue a unfulfilled desire of reprising the persian empires and its goals from centuries ago

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as for my english, there are many dialects, many subtle differences and abundances of the breadth of which the english language encompasses. your inability to understand english says more about you then me

a tom8o can also be a tom@o. a 'dog and bone' can also be a phone, a 'nickel and dime' can also be time.
alright, a'ite, aw-rite

in england alone, someone from cornwall, essex, birmingham, liverpool, newcastle all speak slightly different.
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What part of Judea does the Mileikowsky clan come from? The Israeli occupiers should go colonize their actual historical homelands of Poland and New Jersey.


Nothing says ‘we want peace with our neighbors’ like bombing the hell out of their countries. The brutal dictator they helped install in Syria, imposing Sharia and massacring minorities, should be nominated for the Nobel Prize. Such a good guy he is, according to you.


Elementary school level English isn’t a dialect. You’re just stupid.

firstly staying on topic
hamas is a proxy of the teran regime but the tehran regime is not showing its own humanitarian side
what you will find is hamas smuggle and steal aid and useit as bribe, payment, coercian to appease those in their strong holds
they give the good quality aid to the troops and then distribute at a premium the mid-class aid, and then give out as soups via hamas government affiliated "civilian aid groups" the lesser quality stuff.. purely to coerce palestinians to stay in hamas strongholds and be used a paws/human shields, and to appease them to avoid them revolting against hamas

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now to deal with the idiot troll who wastes time he could spend doing proper research


it shouldnt need to be said, but ill say it..

i dumb it down for you, i know you couldnt cope with anything articulate. i try to keep my posts at a normal basic conversational level, i avoid using big words/jargon as much as possible purely for majority of different people with different first languages and those not deeply understanding english(basically for your benefit).
but with you still complaining, even when dumbed down, its on you, yet again

i could dumb it down more and just say goo goo ga ga.. but then you would think im talking about google and just ignore it more
or cry that im condescending you as other avoidance tactics

by the way, this is a somewhat freespeach forum, where people can talk informally and relaxed, it not suppose to be some scholars dissertation submission portal
brits have never been expected to only speak the kings english..
but you are revealing your 'grammar nazi' side when you lose a debate
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and for the isreali leader, he was born in tel-aviv,

as for the ancestry.
you only want to talk about the time of recent history of the 19th century. yet you keep ignoring the ancestral and ancient history of the kingdom of isreal which are the origins of the isrealites. and you want to avoid the ancient history of religion of jews which go back to ancient kingdom of judah. which even as far back as 2 millenia ago happily and successfully pursued, transitioned and merged their kingdoms(zionism) a couple millennia ago
heck even hebrew has origins back as far as 3 centuries ago

try to remind yourself that your perceived version of "palestine" only has a recent history.. due to the british mandate, not self sovereignty.. and that didnt last long at all, only a quarter of a century
yet history of isreali, jews and the language of hebrew has a LONNNGGG history in the region of isreal. you can see it in coins(money), politics, religious accounts, language.

the only ancient provenance claim of palestinian is that of gaza being linked to ancient philistia.. which even modern isreal recognise and have even today prepared peacedeals to offer gaza as a palestinian state(once hamas has been removed and gaza is demilitarised) to be governed by a peaceful civilian palestine government

palestinians have no ancient claim of "from the river to the sea", what they are talking about is the hopes and dreams of resurrecting the persian empire
which is a modern tehran regime aim. which is where it explains why tehran(iran) are sponsoring hamas and playing out its propaganda
but palestinians do not want to be recognised as persian/iranian

try to do some more research.

oh and by the way.. palestinians wasted 75 years. they didnt develop their own symbology, nor their own separate culture. they didnt help themselves to be recognised as something notable as a different nation/state to either isreal or other arab nations

what palestinians need to do, and hurry up with.. is to develop their own symbology that is separate and unique in their identity compared to isreal/arab nations..
heck they do not even use their own currency, this should change if they want to be truly recognised in gaza as a true palestinian state
it was only during the quarter century of british mandate, that they had some semblance of their own temporary currency, but nothing ancient nor modern

The genocide in GAZA has exposed dual face of EU. It's now clear that EU is fully supporting Israel by providing necessary weapons and for people of GAZA they have only condemnation. I saw a video by Palestinian social media influencer in which he says that, he won't make any more videos about genocide in GAZA because there is zero response from the world despite showing them barbarism of IDF in videos. It looks like the world don't care about the innocent killings going on in GAZA. 

look at the social media goons who just chant buzzwords but dont know the definitions of the words

if there was 2 years of genocide in gaza. why is the population still above 2m
if there was 2 years of starvation. why are aid trucks still going into gaza with more aid then the population needs

but when you see all these social media goons. just look at how much they avoid any negative speech about hamas
look at how they are now even turning on palestinians(who are revolting against the hamas government).

these social media goons dont care for palestinians, they just want to chant messages of loyalty to the hamas regime, even if it now involves them talking negatively about palestinians

But what do you expect? To kill 2m people to convince you that it's a genocide? You ignore the international media including the israeli media and israeli allies media, and you ignore UN reports, and you deny humanitarian organisations reports, then what? Should we bring you to Gaza to see how children die from starvation? I doubt you dare to do so. Not because hamas may assassinate you but fear of you dying from israeli bombs or not find anything to eat. It's really shame how someone could still find blatant excuses to explain a children massacre just to realize a zionist agenda.

It's all about the bank owners trying to take over the world. Their systems are beginning to crack. So, they will become more desperate, and will fight harder. It will hurt a lot of people. But the banks don't care. All they want is control over it all.

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me ignore the reports.. i actually read them and understand them. it seems most other pro-hamas groupies in this forum just read social media clickbait where the social media influencer they are using as sources pretend to have read those reports

take the actual stats from hama's own health ministry of the UNDER 100 children that died of malnutrition.. did you know hamas admit that the number (which is under 100!!) that even that low number is also co-mingling children with other illnesses/co-morbidities that made taking normal nourishment difficult

take the hamas health ministry stats of 60k 'palestinian' deaths due to war.. this also co-mingled hamas troops, their families and affiliates.. the number of actual innocent palestinian deaths is far far far less.

even look at the media publicity in western media of the 2 infants photos claiming its proof of starvation. did you know those kids featured did not die due to starvation from zero access to nutrition for months.. but instead one had cystic fibrosis and the other had another illness

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by the way, as part of my research i actually went through many social communication platforms and found places where palestinians with internet were talking, and i asked them about their experiences. ofcourse i got some who just echo's the hamas rhetoric. but there were many whom were not hamas associated whom gave a better overview. they said how they seen food aid trucks get ambushed before getting to aid sites

i also looked into lots of other sources,
heck even the UN admit they stopped sending in their own trucks due to risks. they tried to work along side the "gazan govrnment"(hamas) to secure safe access but in the end aid was left at the borders. which many unbiased media has verified
the UN were the ones that refused to allow isreali/GHF to truck UN aid in. yep GHF offered, UN declined
UN admit their aid was searched at customs for possible smuggling of weapons. UN admit they were also aiding "gazan government"(hamas) with "civil defence provisions..

when you dig into the details. it will surprise and shock you how social media as gaslit you
look into the "attacks on palestinians near aid sites" but concentrate on the meaning of "near" being ambushed before destination
then look into the practices of what isreali/GHF security done. they give warnings first, and even when overtaken by thousands, the main people harmed were actually armed themselves

heck theres even video footage where aid truck drivers are harmed and atleast one was shot, not by isreali/GHF but by those aligned with the hamas goals

even the UN admit that atleast 85% of aid that did get to enter gaza from all organisations including GHF never reached the peaceful palestinians, and yet hamas have stockpiles.. work it out

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read this story for instance (strike on bustling Gaza cafe)

firstly... what some pick from this is the "happy birthday" for a child (violins and cries about the kids played out in certain media)
but if you have any critical thinking you would realise:
this party is at a cafe... where did they get the milk for the coffee, the ingredient and supplies for the party food
why was the hamas commander so relaxed at a cafe when the area is suppose to be at war
why is there a suggestion of innocent palestinians starving when hamas commanders are having a well catered party
the party was for a family linked to hamas(a lead navel commander). and hamas was using the opportunity to get some local celebrities and "journalists" to create a propaganda video,
those journalists were not independent, random, unbiased career reporters.. not there by accident. not there just randomly

yep it was not some random fire on civilians. it was a targeted strike against a hamas operative and his affiliates.

At the Nova Festival on October 7th, 2023, thousands came together to dance, celebrate, and live in freedom.

Jihadi Hamas turned joy into horror - murdering, raping, and kidnapping young people whose only “crime” was dancing under the open sky so don't listen to the liars glorifying terrorists. The same terrorists that butchered over 1200 civilians on that October 7th and more than 250 kidnapped and treated like animals.Israel will not abandon its citizens no matter what noise comes from terrorist sympathisers.Note to the left wing idiots and the gay community flapping on about freedom for Palestine. Realise this that those people HATE you and only see you as useful idiots to be used in accordance with their narrative across the west but in reality supporting these people is no different than chickens supporting their local KFC.

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.......yes yes Israel is terrible so that is why a delegation of imams from Rwanda, representing the spirit of openness and equality in Rwanda’s Muslim community, visited Israel this week.


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and why Isreal sends sick palestinian children abroad for treatment if they cannot be cured in Israel.

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.........meanwhile hamas continues to starve and torture kidnapped civilians.

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Yes there is food in Gaza. Stolen food and supplies destined for the people sold for a profit if you have the right connections to the wholesalers.Palestinian Hamas is starving the hostages while feasting like kings.

Freed hostage Or Levy:
“It’s hard to understand how difficult it is to live on one pita a day.”

For 491 days, Palestinian Hamas terrorists tortured and starved him - while feasting on stolen humanitarian aid.

Freed hostage Tal Shoham:
“We could see that they were well fed, that they lacked for nothing. They also bragged about having stolen it, that they had months of supplies in that tunnel and all their tunnels.”



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