Title: In the field of bitcoin Post by: coaltin on July 28, 2025, 02:26:38 PM In our field if you can make long term predictions then you wouldn't call it volatile really, because you can predict what it is going to do exactly from a couple to a year up front sometimes even years up front. It only looks volatile to people who aren't sure what they are doing. (Yes technically by literal definition it is and has been but who cares about technicalities). You could entirely very safely predict that when regulations would go through BTC will go into chaos while ETH would draw power from it just because why they are both used. (BTC would only stand if they make it something more).
Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: notocactus on July 29, 2025, 05:10:12 AM In our field if you can make long term predictions then you wouldn't call it volatile really, because you can predict what it is going to do exactly from a couple to a year up front sometimes even years up front. It only looks volatile to people who aren't sure what they are doing. Bitcoin price is very volatile and it is true for all, not only for traders but also true for long-term investors.I don't know how you can make market predictions in next couple of years or longer time accurately. You must be too confident by saying lime this while predictions basically are hard to make accurately for all markets, not only Bitcoin market. You can be a long-term investor, know what you have been doing and your belief in Bitcoin comes from your due diligent research and deep knowledge about it and the market cycle history, it won't change a fact of how volatile Bitcoin price is over time. It won't change a fact of uncertainty in Bitcoin and its unpredictable price in future. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: odolvlobo on July 30, 2025, 03:39:23 AM In our field if you can make long term predictions then you wouldn't call it volatile really ... Anyone can make predictions, unfortunately. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: cryptoaddictchie on July 30, 2025, 03:55:31 AM In our field if you can make long term predictions then you wouldn't call it volatile really, because you can predict what it is going to do exactly from a couple to a year up front sometimes even years up front. It only looks volatile to people who aren't sure what they are doing. (Yes technically by literal definition it is and has been but who cares about technicalities). Its volatile mate. You think the movement isnt one cause you are an investor who viewed it as long term like couple of years, and dont mind the red ans green candle for that. But in the crypto world it considered already as volatile. Yes some users wont mind it as that but for traders its quite it is. I agree that long term holders dont care for it on their daily lives since they will look back only after 10 years or so. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: ellie888 on July 30, 2025, 06:07:17 AM You’re not wrong, but saying “it’s not volatile if you know what you’re doing” kinda misses the point. Volatility isn’t just about predictability, it’s about how violently prices move, regardless of whether someone sees it coming. BTC and ETH reacting differently to regulation? Totally valid. But the market still swings like hell. Being right doesn’t make it calm
Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: BitGoba on July 30, 2025, 07:34:24 AM If you understand Bitcoin and the fiat system, then you understand that Bitcoin will rise forever.
Forever Laura https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBGofxUj9dc You can’t predict tomorrow or next year , of course, there will be short-term corrections , but in the long run, Bitcoin will only grow. If you truly understand Bitcoin, you also realize that Ethereum and t altcoins will almost certainly go to zero in the long term. This isn’t gambling or speculation, like some people who don’t understand Bitcoin tend to think , this is about holding the strongest monetary asset ever created.But most people don't understand what this is really about. Knowledge about money, the history and evolution of money, has been suppressed or distorted That's why it's not clear to them that Bitcoin is the strongest monetary asset ever created. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: Skjadoon on July 30, 2025, 07:37:49 AM In our field if you can make long term predictions then you wouldn't call it volatile really, because you can predict what it is going to do exactly from a couple to a year up front sometimes even years up front. It only looks volatile to people who aren't sure what they are doing. (Yes technically by literal definition it is and has been but who cares about technicalities). You could entirely very safely predict that when regulations would go through BTC will go into chaos while ETH would draw power from it just because why they are both used. (BTC would only stand if they make it something more). Bitcoin’s price is very volatile, so no prediction is certain strong research and belief are key, but risk remains. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: Majestic-milf on July 30, 2025, 07:54:22 AM That means you're saying that long term predictions eliminates volatility in Bitcoin? One of the characteristics of Bitcoin is it's volatility so stating what you did won't change it. If it where so, we'd not be having these fluctuations in price since people were making predictions.
The thing is when investing in it for a long term, prepare yourself for the ride so you don't get taken unawares by things you didn't prepare for since some people just see it as a means to get rich and don't understand there are other things involved. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: SuperBitMan on July 30, 2025, 07:59:19 AM You’re not wrong, but saying “it’s not volatile if you know what you’re doing” kinda misses the point. Volatility isn’t just about predictability, it’s about how violently prices move, regardless of whether someone sees it coming. BTC and ETH reacting differently to regulation? Totally valid. But the market still swings like hell. Being right doesn’t make it calm You are right Bitcoin is still very much volatile in nature I think the OP really don't understand what volatile is all about that is why his confusing himself in his write up, when we say something is volatile it means it is unstable or likely to change suddenly and from what is happening with Bitcoin price it is very clear that Bitcoin is very unstable with it's price, Bitcoin can be $118k now and in the next 1 minute it will either increase to $120k or it will either reduce to $117k so Bitcoin is still very volatile in nature. However this volatile nature of Bitcoin those not stop it from growing unlike other crypto coin in the world, for me I only see Bitcoin volatile nature as an opportunity in many ways, for example the volatile nature of Bitcoin makes Bitcoin drop in price sometimes and when it those some people accumulate more with less price, so Bitcoin volatile nature is an opportunity for investors and traders too. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: aoluain on July 30, 2025, 08:03:28 AM In our field if you can make long term predictions then you wouldn't call it volatile really, because you can predict what it is going to do exactly from a couple to a year up front sometimes even years up front. It only looks volatile to people who aren't sure what they are doing. (Yes technically by literal definition it is and has been but who cares about technicalities). You could entirely very safely predict that when regulations would go through BTC will go into chaos while ETH would draw power from it just because why they are both used. (BTC would only stand if they make it something more). Its easy to make a long term prediction because anyone who is into Bitcoin knows in the long term the value is only rising. Most people concentrate on the short term most of the time, traders - professional and newbies are basing their profit making on what the markets are doing short term (days to months) Volatility is over played and used as a negative but its a feature of the Bitcoin market and once anyone understands this it becomes less of a concern...and anyway for a professional trader a volatile market can only mean greater profits/gains Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on July 30, 2025, 09:36:57 AM In our field if you can make long term predictions then you wouldn't call it volatile really, because you can predict what it is going to do exactly from a couple to a year up front sometimes even years up front. It only looks volatile to people who aren't sure what they are doing. (Yes technically by literal definition it is and has been but who cares about technicalities). You could entirely very safely predict that when regulations would go through BTC will go into chaos while ETH would draw power from it just because why they are both used. (BTC would only stand if they make it something more). Anyone can make his or her wild educated guess in this market. And probably what you are saying is that we should look at the bigger picture if you want to make a prediction so that volatility will be a small factor on it. And most likely why DCA method is also the best as it doesn't matter was it the price as you buy in averages. It could be volatile for those short day traders or traders by definition, but to make money they will have to make volatility it's friend. As for ETH, not sure about it, it's totally different in terms of usage or even adoption and so I don't think that there will be comparison. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: Reid on July 30, 2025, 11:44:22 AM It's volatile if you are making short-term trades. But yes, those who believes that the value of one thing will grow in the future means they are not believing about the volatility at all. But it will take a lot of patience and I believe those who waited up until now are very brave to keep their hands tied and not pressing the sell button.
When it comes to predictions, it's an individual thing in my opinion. You can make one but don't assume it can come true. Still, there are coins out there which was believed to have a great future and yet they are like leaves plucked one by one out of the market. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: Josefjix on July 30, 2025, 12:11:19 PM It's volatile if you are making short-term trades. But yes, those who believes that the value of one thing will grow in the future means they are not believing about the volatility at all. But it will take a lot of patience and I believe those who waited up until now are very brave to keep their hands tied and not pressing the sell button. To me the time of predictions whether Bitcoin to be successful or not is a waste of time, energy and effort. The period of predictions should've been some couple of years ago like during 2009 to 2012 when the outcome was still shaky, now the results are extraordinary and no more predictions again when it's 15 years old today already When it comes to predictions, it's an individual thing in my opinion. You can make one but don't assume it can come true. Still, there are coins out there which was believed to have a great future and yet they are like leaves plucked one by one out of the market. Lol Some people predicted that Bitcoin will fade away by today, that's actually failed predictions, no one knows the end of anything. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: Marykeller on July 30, 2025, 01:40:10 PM Even after having a long term goal of investment, you can't predict the future price of Bitcoin. All you can do is to assume that Bitcoin would increase overtime because of what the history of Bitcoin has made us to understand that it increases in long term, and we are just holding onto that as a belief that the market turns as good as ever for us because left alone the market is unpredictable and volatile, we can't figure out the next price of Bitcoin.
Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: Accardo on July 30, 2025, 02:55:37 PM Bitcoin is higly volatile - don't doubt it. That doesn't mean it's bad - it's natural. Volatility helps to open a window for new investors to profit in the Bitcoin market, lower rate implies buy, and expect multiples in the future. Implied volatility (https://www.poems.com.sg/glossary/investment/volatility/) - trying to predict the future is complex to do, it depends on options instrisic value, so traders must listen to the market potentials to know how the trend will be. Also, remember that volatility is not an enough reason to abandon your asset, it's considered a mistake.
Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: Hannah$ on July 30, 2025, 03:53:09 PM Bitcoin is higly volatile - don't doubt it. That doesn't mean it's bad - it's natural. Volatility helps to open a window for new investors to profit in the Bitcoin market, lower rate implies buy, and expect multiples in the future. Implied volatility (https://www.poems.com.sg/glossary/investment/volatility/) - trying to predict the future is complex to do, it depends on options instrisic value, so traders must listen to the market potentials to know how the trend will be. Also, remember that volatility is not an enough reason to abandon your asset, it's considered a mistake. I think your analysis is very important, your comments are reasonable. Yes, it is true that Bitcoin's volatility is scary for many, but for conscious investors it really offers opportunities for profit. It is difficult to predict, but the market depends on different technologies, the market is affected by different factors. Volatility is not only negative.Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: Frankolala on July 30, 2025, 04:52:58 PM In our field if you can make long term predictions then you wouldn't call it volatile really, because you can predict what it is going to do exactly from a couple to a year up front sometimes even years up front. It only looks volatile to people who aren't sure what they are doing. (Yes technically by literal definition it is and has been but who cares about technicalities). You could entirely very safely predict that when regulations would go through BTC will go into chaos while ETH would draw power from it just because why they are both used. (BTC would only stand if they make it something more). You can predict whatever you like about bitcoin prive but in reality, it wouldn't be correct. Bitcoin is decentralized and there's nothing the government can do to be in full control of bitcoin. The volatile nature is what makes it unpredictable by anyone. Bitcoin is a good store of value and you only need to keep on accumulating and store in a self custody wallet and forget about the news. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: justdimin on July 30, 2025, 05:42:30 PM Bitcoin is higly volatile - don't doubt it. That doesn't mean it's bad - it's natural. Volatility helps to open a window for new investors to profit in the Bitcoin market, lower rate implies buy, and expect multiples in the future. Implied volatility (https://www.poems.com.sg/glossary/investment/volatility/) - trying to predict the future is complex to do, it depends on options instrisic value, so traders must listen to the market potentials to know how the trend will be. Also, remember that volatility is not an enough reason to abandon your asset, it's considered a mistake. Without volatility, there isn't any profit to be made, and we can't really know what it will do, hence we shouldn't be considering this to be a one time thing. Volatility is how traders make their money and because of that, we are going to get a lot better results, it is not that complicated. Obviously things will change a lot, and it is not going to be that weird, but because of what we are seeing today, it is not really that shocking since volatility brings us the profit.If it was stable, like savings account return, then we wouldn't see this many people joining in, since it wouldn't make a lot of money and it would be a small return. Volatility is the reason why it makes it so fun and involves so many people who hope to make a lot more than anywhere else they could make money from. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: yudi09 on July 30, 2025, 08:37:50 PM In our field if you can make long term predictions then you wouldn't call it volatile really, because you can predict what it is going to do exactly from a couple to a year up front sometimes even years up front. It only looks volatile to people who aren't sure what they are doing. Unfortunately, predictions can be made by anyone but predictions are uncertain. Volatility can be said not to be a picture of someone being able to make predictions based on data and various events because volatility is only a measure of what is called price fluctuations in the crypto market.$150,000 is the price I predicted because it is not that far away from the current ATH. It's not definitive, but it's an idea that I can make predictions. Title: Re: In the field of bitcoin Post by: Finestream on July 30, 2025, 09:20:59 PM Bitcoin’s volatility is always there, because that’s the nature of bitcoin. However, it can be a threat for those who does not know how to manage it and those who only invest due to greed and peer pressures. But if your goal is to make bitcoin a long-term investment, no matter how volatile it is, you will see it more as an advantage, the more volatile it is, the higher the chances bitcoin price will skyrocket and reaches new all time high.
Overtime, I learned to accept bitcoin’s volatility and take it as an edge over other type of investments. It makes me more open-minded and be more positive to what volatility has stored for bitcoin in the years to come. |