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Do casinos specifically target vulnerable gamblers? When I say vulnerable gamblers, I mean those who tend to gamble a lot and usually loses more. Casinos surely have the statistics for this and they can identify which users might be more vulnerable. My question is do they take advantage of this and show them promos that will make them want to gamble more? Are they more persistent towards these users? Or do they just give everyone the same kind of promo and treat everyone the same no matter what?

And if casinos really do treat vulnerable gamblers more, is it ethical?

Casinos might choose to give you a free spin or bonus based on your commitment and how frequently you gamble in their casino. However, your tier also depends on how often, you will get bonuses from the casino.

Some casinos, when you are in the VIP tier, at the end of the week, they give you back some percentage from your losses, so that you can gamble and wouldn't feel your losses that much.

Casinos are a business like any other and want to make money, so if a user is losing money and giving profit to the casino, they will want to keep hin in house as much as possible.

So yeah it makes sense to give this user more bonuses and rakebacks, because at the end he might still lose more and the profit keeps coming. But would you call this type of gambler vulnerable? Maybe he has fun gambling even if he loses money when the day ends.

The most important thing is to keep your customers because the house edge is enough for even some slow profit.

As far as we all know, the more money you spend, the better terms and treatment you will get from any casino. It's more than sure that they will send a different promo to the VIPs level 1, from the ones that will be on a lower level. However, I don't believe that casinos will be trying to discover such gamblers, since they will understand it the moment they start playing there. If a casino sees that you spend a lot, then according to the system, you will become a VIP. Then they will target you with different marketing methods.

When you do any business yourself, you will want to get clients using any strategy. And the clients of gambling sites are gamblers. The more gamblers they can get to gamble on their platform, the more revenue they can make. So every casino wants to use different strategies to get gamblers to gamble on their site in any way. If a site can track vulnerable gamblers and convert them into potential clients, then that is their success and of course it is ethical.

I believe it's not the people who lose more who are loyal to them and always play with them. I know people who get to be taken care of at a casino just because they always gamble there. They get some breaks, like staying at the hotel, because they know they will continue gambling there. I think taking care of them is the number one thing for casinos to do to keep them coming back.

Taking advantage of people is not a good thing. Keep their loyalty or something.

I don't think they are. I hope so. I know they have the stats of each player, and I have seen a movie where a gambler was specifically targeted, and in the end, he killed himself, getting drunk on gambling and losing a lot of money. Still, I do hope this doesn't happen in real life.

In fact, I have been receiving more promotions when I tend not to play anymore. They want you back no matter what the results you get. They just want all their customers to play again. I asked a player of the same online casino, and he said he also receives the same e-mail promotions as mine. I don't play much, and yet I still receive the same.
It will be tough work if they just pinpoint every gambler who loses much and they will probably pay a lot of employees to do that kind of job.

i believe that casinos analyze the gambling habits of their members. for example, i think that they do not throw a promotion, an offer to a person at a random time. for example, if someone who receives his salary on the 1st of the month gambles with some of this money that week, they may be making the best offers at this time of each month. so they may know who has the money to gamble when, when they tend to gamble.

i think they also know and analyze what kind of strategy someone who gambles follows, whether they are aggressive or calm. in the end, they need to act according to everyone's playing habits in order to make the most profit.

Every casino surely plans its promotions for its customers based on activity, but casinos can also offer promotions for all customers. For example, special promotions for customers who have not been active for a certain period, or promotions for customers who are active in certain games, such as slots or sports betting. Casinos certainly have targets every time they launch promotions for customers. I think there is no specific intention to target vulnerable gamblers to continue draining their money. Therefore, gamblers must understand not to bet beyond their limits.

What I noticed when I left fiat casinos was that they were sending me bonuses that they were not sending me before. I left before they began sending me the bonuses because they just want me to come back gambling. I do not know if your question would be answered as yes but I know that gambling sites are targeting gamblers that are no more using their sites like before also which is opposite of your question.

If a casino identify a vulnerable gamble, what do you think they will do to such person? A second thought about your post make one set of gamblers qualify perfectly for this which is the addicted gamblers. Casinos offering promotions does not target anyone or any set of gamblers in particular, they do it generally to attract people. They even have various VIP packages that are not aimed at exploiting anyone but to make their platform attractive for people. Therefore, I do not think that casinos keep data of addicted gamblers and offer them special kinds of promotions in order to exploit them.

if the casino is big scale, they will not have time to look at the statistics of their users, but they often send bonuses to their users who have been inactive for a long time, they just keep their users, the bigger the casino, the fairer it is

this is beneficial for the gambler but ultimately still beneficial to the casino as well because with a free spin or a bonus you will just spend your money on their platform again
as i have read before how this percentage will just be spent by you making another bet so at the end it is still really the casino that wins even if you get a little bit out of it or better yet you win on a lottery

I guess casinos target gamblers who spend more money on their platforms, despite them being more vulnerable or not. It can be that a determined gambler bets a lot, because he he is wealthy and can afford doing so, what means he isn't vulnerable. As consequence, the casino will try to make his eyes shine with promos, offers and extra benefits.

Meanwhile, a vulnerable gambler may be gambling little, but more than he can afford to lose. At same time, he isn't the main target of the casino, as he isn't giving a large profit to the company.

The most dangerous situation is when there is a rich gambler who is also vulnerable, impulsive and prone to develop an addiction. However, the casino won't care about it at all, unless that gambler decides self-excluding himself, so the casino has to cooperate with the gambler by not allowing him to play anymore, neither sending promos and offers to his email.

Casino is a business, and in every business there must be profit and loss. So people who lose in casino are just not lucky enough, and perhaps gambling is programmed in a way that it is very difficult to win, and gamblers already know that and they keep gambleing. So if they still keep on gambling and losing, then it's not the fault of the Casino or the casino is not targeting their vulnerebility but the fault of the gamblers who chose to continue despite knowing that there is more loses than win. It's a matter of choice and not by Force. It's just like alcohol business, people who sell it are doing their business and they don't care if you drink overdose of it. They can only give you bonus as a regular customer but not the level of your lose but how much you petronise them. At times casino does it for  promotion purpose because every business have the strategy to grow to another level and this includes bonuses to attract more users and not for addicted personn.

this is beneficial for the gambler but ultimately still beneficial to the casino as well because with a free spin or a bonus you will just spend your money on their platform again
as i have read before how this percentage will just be spent by you making another bet so at the end it is still really the casino that wins even if you get a little bit out of it or better yet you win on a lottery

Not even a bonus can make someone to be addicted to gambling, it is another thing entirely that is causing addiction or spending much money on gambling. What that mainly cause addiction or waste of money on gambling sites because the gambler is trying to earn money from the gambling site and which is very wrong. Bonus is a good thing that are given to gamblers to enjoy more of the games that they like playing.

Yes, they do!

And not only online casinos, but also land-baseds use systems to analyze data and segment their players. This way, they always know who's playing, how much they are playing and which games too. and... they also know, of course, how much they're winning and losing.
I would not say it's a way to identify vulnerable players, but rather "high-value" ones... these players arenot always rich, but they still spend a lot of money and time playing.

I even have an idea of how they identify this type of player... those who make frequent deposits, those who continue playing after big losses, and those who spend an lot of time playing regardles of the outcome.

Obviously... those who make more deposits or (and) play more receive more promotions and bonuses than others... this is standard on any casino.

And as for whether it's illegal... I'd say no! Every company (not only cassinos) conducts these customer analys. If the player is looking to play, then offer what they're looking for and encourage them. The person responsible for maintaining healthy and responsible gaming is the gambler themselves.

Casinos don't have crystal balls, they don't have superpowers to read people's minds. They just do marketing, offering promotions and bonuses they think people will like. Casinos also post warnings that people should gamble responsibly. I've seen casinos post warnings like "Play in moderation." Casinos aren't here to harm people; people should take care of their mental health.

If you have mental health issues, you shouldn't gamble. If you have problems with another addiction or can't afford to spend certain amounts of money on entertainment, you shouldn't get involved in gambling. Unfortunately, many people don't listen, even with many warnings, they don't listen.

Im not entirely sure of this but every gambler has their own promos they are being offered based on their staking power... casinos can give an enticing offer to a user that makes huge deposits just To keep them in the game... Majority of casinos offer promos to every user but like I said it's based on the amount of money that they stake with, this isn't idea because to some people it makes them more addicted

What casino target at is the available markets, just like every other businesses, casinos will always target where the marker is but let be specific in this because, both all the class of people gamble.

The rich forks gamble same way that the poor and vonurable gamble too, this have made the argument of which class in the society gamble more, but in the end we have discovered the obvious fact.

Yes, you made an important comment. Nowadays, many online casinos offer their customers various bonuses or incentives based on their regular play, such as free spins, cashback or VIP rewards. While these offers may seem attractive, it is important to remember that casinos are in business, and ultimately they want to make a profit. Therefore, it is wise to understand the hidden terms and conditions behind any bonus or reward. Playing for fun is fine, but playing responsibly is most important. Thank you for your comment.

Casinos know who their players are who often play on their platform and this is what they can focus on so that these gamblers come back to them again and again. And if the players are newbies on their platform, the casino or house can immediately give them a win so that the players think that winning at the casino is easy.

This is how they trap their players and this is where these gamblers start coming back. And sometimes they will also give a bonus depending on what they want
to give so that their gambler will be even more confident to come back.

 
This is a more reason they have created casino games that will captivate the minds of the gamblers to keep gambling at the expense of them loosing a lot of funds, it doesn't seem like  that's what they've programed to achieve but it's a clear picture that vulnerable gamblers will always arise and the casino would get profits from this means but they don't actually use it as an advantage.

Casinos are not just targeting a particular group of people, their target is the society at large, both from different countries and the country they are operating from. The features and services of different casinos is not limited to only vulnerable gamblers but to every current and newly registered users, although some promoting are limited to newly registered users but many other bonus are also enjoyed by old members. Casino owners didn't know any vulnerable player before starting the casinos, so every service they designed was for every customer.

I do not agree that casinos target vulnerable gamblers because all bonuses and promos are open to all and sundry. The promos and bonuses are incentives to encourage gamblers to sign up with them, stick with them, or wager more with them, as the case may be. And if gamblers cannot resist the urge to gamble when they see such offers, then it's on them.

Casino sites mention everything for the purpose of their ToS and they continue their marketing in different ways and it is normal that they will do it. But here if a gambler comes here and gets addicted and starts losing a lot of money then it is completely his own personal responsibility. Casino sites will target any user in any way and try it, it will definitely be ethical. You are a human being and you have the ability to understand what is good for you but if you see an advertisement without doing any research yourself and jump there and face any loss then in that case you have to take the entire responsibility yourself and you cannot blame that platform for it because it is completely your failure.

Unfortunately, yes , casinos do specifically target vulnerable players. With the help of data, they can easily identify those who lose frequently and offer them personalized promotions to keep them playing. Not all users are treated equally, because the biggest profits come from those who lose the most.

Ethical? Highly questionable. Instead of protecting vulnerable players, casinos often push them deeper into the problem.

I believe it's the way the games were wired, I think the games monitors each gambler and adjust based on how often the gambler plays, this is just my opinion because you will become harder to predict if you don't gamble every time, this is why I've recommended to some gamblers to reduce their gambling time or else the game can actually read you in and out.

Those who spent too much time on gambling are exposed to every gone wrong things in gambling, from addiction to continues losses, they will later start asking how they get here, this is why I won't ditch away what you are talking about OP, those machines in casinos monitors the gambler and they adjust based on that.

Like I've said I could be wrong but this is just what I have experienced since few years that I've started to gamble, the lesser time you spent the harder you are to be read and probability of winning is a bit better than someone who knows no break to gambling.

Casino business is like any other business, when you gamble frequently in the casino and lose a lot of money to them, the casino will definitely look at you a little differently. This is certainly ethical and there is nothing wrong with this, because your business strategy must be good for your business. So there is no ethical harm or wrong for casino owners to provide benefits to risky gamblers.

I am confident that casinos do not identify their customers' data based on vulnerabilities that can be exploited by the casino to generate more profits from their customers. Casinos offer certain promotions or bonuses based on the account ranking achieved by the customer. Although there are also casinos that specifically provide promotional bonuses to customers from certain regions, through the identification of fiat deposits. Such practices are normal for casino strategies to offer their customers specific promotional or bonus offers. There is no intentional targeting of specific customers to make them lose more.

My answer is no. Casinos do not target any vulnerable gamblers. Rather when a gambler visits several carcinos Heights and accept cookies on their website,  they are automatically shown gambling ads. That's is part of marketing strategy that all businesses online who are looking for more  customers do. Casinos don't have any statistics of vulnerable gamblers. It is just marketing and the decision to gamble there is up to the player.

Just like any other business, the more you patronise them the greater the bonuses and discounts. I don't think casinos have any mechanism to target vulnerable gamblers. But they just target people who bet more and give them more benefits to encourage them to continue.

It is ethical to present your offer to someone you have observed who can afford it. But it will be wrong to take advantage of someone with an abnormal gambling behaviour.  An example is someone that have applied for self-exclusion in a casino. If the casino fails to process and implement his request,  it means they are taking advantage of his vulnerability.

Free games are offered to gamblers based on their gambling activities and how much they deposit, just like every other normal business it's normal to give VIP treats to customers that are encouraging the business lol. This is a strategy that keeps the game going, the casino doesn't really care about the best interests of the gambler, they're just out to make sure that their business keeps on  being profitable to them

I remember reading something similar to this before, and the gambler took legal action against the casino. If I remember correctly, the gambler unsub from the casino's "promotional emails" so he wouldn't get any more of those emails from them, but it didn't stop, and he mentioned that he was getting promotional emails that he never got before to tempt him to gamble again.

Casinos don't set their targets on this, as a matter of fact some will encourage for responsible gambling, but if some gamblers are found in  such manner, they wont mind for anything as long as they are not violating on their rules, every other thing is left for them to decide and choose as they wanted to gamble, all the casino will be after is the traffic and how they could cover a particular geo they supported and provide gambling service to a number of people.

Casino target are looking for loyal players who willing to playing at their casino very often that's why mostly the current online casinos are offering some promo even they will give to their loyal costumers special treatment such as cashback or VIP members and the casinos know who is these players based on their statistics but i don't think those casinos will considers them as vulnerable gamblers or not and i am sure their attention is same for each players regardless those are vulnerable gamblers or not because as long as the gambers playing regularly they will gets the benefit which given by the casinos

I dont think so. there is no such thing as vulnerability in gambling. everyone is treated equally by the casino, bonus are given to players as a way of attracting customers to their gambling site. sometimes this casino usually give welcome bonus at signup to their website. the fact is that the casino will somehow make profit from their customers who loses more, but that does not mean that the casino is targeting any vulnerable gambler  

i dont know where you got your information from, like i said there is no such thing, everyone is treated equally.

exactly what i am talking about.

Gambling is a market where fresh seekers of luck come up everyday to try multiples of tricks and strategy or even change casinos to achieve their goal. Casinos know of this competition and place themselves into giving incentives to improve playing time and experience. Real casinos offer free foods and hotel rooms to hold players, and the online settings focus more bonuses. New player who don't understand how it goes would likely want to try them out for the first time.

Vulnerable gamblers will still receive bonuses and promotions.

You have just registered at a new casino and are offered many deposit bonus promotions.
Those who are vulnerable to gambling will usually be given bonuses and offers for tournaments by the casino to entice them to participate.

Casinos know which offers are for vulnerable gamblers and which are not; they have all the data, so they will continue to offer them in different ways.

This is just the normal promotion casinos do to reward loyal customers and it also come in the form of the competition and tournaments that we see in various sections of the forum. I don't know how casinos can do targeted promotion on individuals the feel does not win regularly and are heavy rollers. If they do that, there is no one it could be noticed.

We do know that we do have that so called VIP's into these casinos on which pretty sure that they've been already that marked up as their important players as they are the ones who are that burning up cash into their business and makes them profitable. This is how business works on which there would be that separate prioritization into those people who are that huge spendors or the ones who do splurge tons of money in comparing into those small-time gamblers that on the vicinity. Is it ethical? I dont see any problems with these because everything's been done is according into someones will and decision and they havent been forced up. As a business then you would be definitely be doing all sorts of possible ways for you to hook up those gamblers on which you do know that this could be that resulting into that making them spend even more and thats how it works. Just like been said that they arent being forced or being that having that kind of sense on which we cant be able to say that they've been fooled out but some sort they've been deceived via those good promotions and stuffs.

Gambling are businesses and its typical on a business that they will be that giving out promotions to those who are that spending up big time. They would be doing all possible things to make their gamblers would be staying up into their business and would be spending up tons of money and losing them all. Its not vulnerable but rather this is a typical behavior on what gamblers do always do. There's no one that would be blamed into and if there's one then it would be the gamblers itself on which they are the ones who are responsible into their actions. If they have spend up too much money then this is their own fault and not on the casino itself. They are just that providing service and they are the ones need to pay up for that.

Have you had a chance to watch the series Fartblinda? A Swedish series that tells an interesting story about how banks and casinos target and enable weak people (of all ages) to gamble and get into debt... until a boy commits suicide and one journalist starts an investigation.

When it comes to promotions & bonuses, I think we can't say that casinos are doing something unethical... It's simply how the gambling industry works & attracts players.

Casinos are there for business. They may take Jen interests in those bankers that are in their VIP list and give them special treats, which is birthday for you to give special treatment to special clients.

For normal clients, the system is programmed to give bonuses when you've deposited within a certain threshold to spur more engagement and commitment of such gambler, the casino attends to lots of clients and it's difficult to spot out the would be vulnerable ones specifically and lure them the more. The system has been programmed and it's serving it's purpose.

Yeah, why not? These are the readymade customers who provide them with regular profits. The casinos have their own tracking system through which they monitor two types of gamblers, those who win a lot and those who lose a lot. What they do is give the chance to earn more and then present offers that a person can't deny. Slowly, you find yourself getting into their trap, and you will be fooled into thinking you are earning while your personal funds disappear in seconds. You may notice that when you are about to quit after a loss, suddenly your account is filled with offers, and you can accept one, only to lose more.

Casino promo is not something special given to just one gambler or gamblers they find vulnerable, from my perspective promo ads are general for all gambling site. If mentioning bonus or some other kind of enticing offer although you might have participated in other contest before receiving such offer or sometimes an active gambler are more likely favorable to receiving bonus etc, It’s more like an appreciation offer definitely the casino benefits from such but, vulnerable gamblers are not just the target.

Anything about gambling does not intend with the aim of affecting gamblers negatively, except we failed to align ourself toward maximizing the opportunity of doing same, in gambling, we are expected to sharpened our minds towards playing with benefits and doing things that will not be of harm to us, such as decision and the way to how we are gambling, because we cant afford to have everything happening at our own risk while we watch them happen, even it it turned a vulnerability to us, we should not let this stay, we have to gamble the normal way.

Indeed casinos have their targeted audience and these are the high stakes. They are being offered bonuses that are different from what they give to other gamblers that are not regular gamblers. The positive side of this is that they acknowledge their customers but negative side of is that it can make gamblers addicted. After losing a huge amount of money and deciding to quit for a while having a huge bonus might prompt the gambler to gamble more

You are absolutely correct that is the real truth about it because I also experience the same thing too after I left the casino, they were sending me a lot of bonuses just to drag me back to the casino, but I refuse to honor there bonus. Because during the time I was gambling with them I was very unlucky to get a win in the casino, but even as that I was just funding money steady in my account, so they see me as one of their regular customer.

Sounds true but I still doubt though I don't too play casinos but in sports betting the more you gamble the more bonus and voucher they will give you so I don't think it is about how vulnerable someone is and in some sports betting as you are betting consistently, you will be seeing your bonus increasing too. And if casinos does this then it doesn't make sense and it means they are deceipt and trying to get advantage of someone in that way or manner is not good even though that is business but gamblers on the other hand should also learn to be responsible in gamble.

Looks like great series. I haven't watched it and didn't know about that series, but I enjoy this type of show about gambling. It seems similar to other movies I've seen, like No More Bets, a Chinese film where player commits suicide due to debt and gambling addiction. There's also a South Korean series with the title, BIG BETS which story about on a syndicate running casino.

Where I can watch that series Fartblinda?

Back to the topic. Yes, these things happen in real life. And honestly, the gambling industry doesn't really care about what happens to the players like to commit suicide. All they care about is the money.

A kind of a technique that gets players to upgrade by spending or depositing upto a specific amount to be eligible for certain bonuses. Some of the players, due to gravitation, wants it immediately and may no desist high rolling after depositing huge amounts. The bonuses also has lesser effects, there are only a few ton of players who made substatials wins gambling with bonuses. Except players who farm bonuses, eveyoneelse in that line losses, the other gamers who go for more bonus with funds always have difficulty at managing both the money and bonuses.

This has been happening for quite a long time already, and no, they don't treat everyone equally. They have to give a lot of promo and bonuses to those players who have been spending more than the others.
I think casinos can also track people who have been into gambling frequently and spending a significant amount of money on gambling, even if they have never gambled on their platform. Because there are some gamblers who received invites through email to gamble on their platform. They even offer sign-in and first-time top-up bonuses, exclusively for some users.

A good casino doesn't care if you are vulnerable or not, or if you have a losing streak, it's only the statistics of their finances that influence, depending on the way each person plays, they act accordingly, that is, it is not based on a player constantly losing or winning, it is based on issues such as the player's loyalty to the casino based on their plays, by seniority, or if a player has moved away, they look for ways to capture their attention with promotions, that is, it is a business like any other business that works with a specific audience, it's like when you visit a bar or restaurant every week, logically you will be treated in a special way, and for example they will try to give you the table where you usually sit, and with new customers, attention will be focused on creating an environment where they will make you come back next time.

Lately I'm social media some casino have their watermark on some funny videos that they know that the majority of people would be exposed to. Will you now say that those people are vulnerable people assuming the vulnerable people here are people who struggling with gambling addiction.

They don't have control over what the online chooses to show. If the individual is having a problem with this, they may as just just decide exit that platform.

I still believe a lot of casinos do this wether large scale or small scale.Targeting vulnerable Gamblers comes with a lot of tactical approach and it oftentimes doesn't turn out favourable.Casinos have decided to be clever enough to track the standards using their inputed data/profile to identify their various records.

Let's give for an instance you own a casino and have me as a regular, aside the general bonus you give as per VIP status what else will you do to keep me using your platform? You are aware that there are over hundreds of casinos and more are still in the process of making, what should be there to attract already loyal customers to continue gambling without leaving your platform, something needs to intrigue them in order to stay, either promo or special bonuses.

Not completely a target but it could be killing two birds using one stone, applying promo helps keep customers, the promo when founded attracts new customers because they also want to get involved so to enjoy benefits.

Casinos love those kinds of gamblers and treat them so well, like offering some VIP seats to earn more money from them. Many of us never know that casinos are watching our gambling behavior and taking advantage of it. Giving them the most convenient experience is their goal to keep a gambler coming back. Repeat clients are more valuable than newcomers, but of course, they value everyone and treat them so well. Gambling is a huge business, and so they want everyone who comes to retain and continue gambling.

It’s bad for business if people perceive casinos as predators. They promote themselves as an entertainment portal, even had a warning on their TOS that their platform is not an investment company and that users should play with money they can afford to lose.

If they have promotions, they offer them to all the members, and they provide perks for VIP because they are valued members, not because they are being targeted.
Casinos like their community to have the best experience, and it’s up to the player to control their bankroll and themselves.

I don’t know how casinos really give out those promos but I think when giving out such promos, as long as it’s not a welcome bonus giving to a new user, they check users most recent activity in the casino to give them such promo. In this case, they don’t make use of your number of losses or number of wins to give out such promo, they share it equally to everyone qualify to have it. Whether they target vulnerable gamblers or not, by sharing those promos out also give them a chance to make more money if these gamblers lose their games more which in many instances and statistically, more losses are recorded than wins in a gambling setting.

When signing up on a new casino, must of the times on their site not apps, thou sometimes apps too you will get to see options of accepting their cookies and accept the terms of services, hence from the data's you gave them permission through accepting those options will likely be used for such things, I'm of the speculation that it's used to target customers, know how they tend to act towards promotion hence they can use that to lure them.
I may not be totally correct but I'm sure something similar is happening somewhere in casinos we use everyday!

It’s on their system what they offer to one, they provide to all. Self-control and protection should be on the gambler’s responsibility; the casino can give a warning and features that the gambler can use, and the gambler will decide.
You cannot blame casinos if you lose; you know what casinos are and what they offer once you decide to play, so it’s always gambling at your own risk.

In my local casino they got these signs “Stop gambling if you think you have a problem” near the ATMs they got pamphlets and such in case you got a gambling problem and that’s about it.

Can they do more? Yeah of course. They can basically see when you are losing tons of money and taking bet after bet and clearly are there for money instead of entertainment and basically get security to come over and kick you out but they rather have you go bust instead.

It’s a business what do you expect. It’s like a liquor store refusing to sell you Vodka because you are
An alcoholic.

Vulnerable gamblers a being treated specially because the casino makes more money from them than others professional gamblers in other to retain them and make more money from them .
 
Casinos or any gambling centers are out there to make money and so they will try all their possible best to retain those customers they make profit from the most, and so they bring out promos and even give them extra slots of games just to make them happy and keep coming.

I don't think the most reputable and reliable casinos on the internet need to opt to do those things, to be honest, they are already generating millions of dollars from their operations without targeting anyone specifically. Besides, saying casinos target specific users is kind of confusing, you know.
It is obvious those who wager the most are going to get the best bonuses and promotions from the casino, because all casino give rewards which are always proportional to the accumulated wager of a gambler in a defined period of time, so if a casino gives bonuses to those who gamble more than other gamblers, it is not really targeting, they are just conducting a campaign to keep people engaged according to their activity, which is something done outside of the gambling industry as well.

Those that are VIP are always having special treatment because they knows that those people gambles with higher amount, and of course those in VIP levels do have their ways of retaining them in the casino so that they wouldn't for any day leave the gambling site. Casinos do know those who gambles with higher amounts and also treat people to the level of their activities on the gambling site, also they knows those who often win and those who uses small amount to target a higher amount especially those they found using methods that is not approved by them to gamble, that is why we often see them freezing people's account.

Most probably, because they're the ones gambling platforms want. That's probably true to both online and brick-and-mortar casinos. But I think the perks start to flow in after a gambler established a pattern of being a consistent bettor or a high-roller.

The disparity of treatment will eventually follow later on depending on whether a consistent high-roller gambler is draining the casino of revenue or boosting it. If your being a high-roller makes you big money, casinos have unlimited reasons to kick you out or make life harder for you.

It is pretty hard for us to know when known of us have ran of managed a casino before, but to be honest, I've seen more then enough happenings around the world to believe that anything is possible, what you claim is very possible because every business in this world have their secret and dark side, and it takes a high level of maturity and discipline to not fall into doing such as practising that secret and dark things as a business owner eager well enough to see your business succeed and do well.

So, there are definitely some casino that target vulnerable gamblers more by making sure they keep them close because they know it's from gamblers like this they make alot of money from, no one in business sees a customer he or she makes alot of gains from in business and doesn't advertise every single product he or she sells to such a customer, so this is something I think if we are to begin to check, alot of casinos will be guilty of it but whether its ethical or not is a question which I will have to answer another day.

I'm not really sure if we have to blame casinos, for me, it is always the individual that is responsible. We have friends that despite we want them to play or even bring them to land base casinos, they will not play at all.

So my point is even if casinos are offering this huge perks for a casual gambler, if he has self discipline and just want to have some fun then I don't think he will fell for it. Remember that casinos are business entity so in their part they want to sell their business to people. So it's up to us whether to take advantage or not. Their promotion will be year end long, so it doesn't matter that much to them if they can attract new one or not. This is one business that you won't lose money.

Casinos targetting those who want to spend so much money. They don't know who will be vulnerable gamblers. But they can check the statistics from all of their members so they can know where they can send the promotions.

If they have many gamblers staying at their casino and spend much money, the casino will send interesting promos to their members. They can expect to see their members use the promos and get the reward.

But they also make other promotions on their site or social media to attract more people to play gambling on their site. Perhaps, casinos have a specific promo for loyal members and general promos for all people.

Not sure.

People who left the casino and VIP users will receive more promos than normal gamblers, although I lost most of the time, but I'm not a big roller, hence I don't know the situation if I was the top 100 gamblers who lost in casino.

It's not, getting VIP require wagering amount, not the total deposit or losses.

 

You know what a lot of them do who are in their little clubs? You know they have all these perks like free food booze and electronics and stuff. Its a lot of money they spend to become members though. I think this is a form of targeting gamblers by enticing them to stay as long and as often as they can to keep them there gambling longer and more often

Those are not vulnerable gamblers.
Casinos offer bonus and prizes to players that have a big bankroll made of ral bets (not playing 50/50 dice to rise your vip) you can be a multi-millionaire bettor and not be "vulnerable" just playing because you can afford and playign when you see fit and still doing 1000x times the volume of a guy who gets into debt to play.
Contrary to myths, casinos don't care about personal issues a gambler has or doesn't, they care only about $.

If the casino try to control gamblers by any method, gamblers wouldn't listen. Imagine after putting yourself on self exclusion with a particular casino, that gambler will go and open another account with a different casino and start gambling again. Gamblers are responsible for their actions and whatever is the outcome of their actions.

I cannot say for sure they do or don't but their end game is to make a dollar but they know that they will make money longrun so they don't really need to use a tactic like this. As a player you have to be responsible for your own actions. Learn when to stop and take a break, lose free bonuses but stay outta your wallet so to speak.

In other words, is the behavior of gamblers monitored and does the casino adapt individually to them? For example, this was definitely practiced in MMORPG in the early 2000s. Even the gameplay was adjusted to the largest donors. Perhaps the casino can offer individual promotions for the biggest gamblers. After all, there are gambling rating systems and VIP users. It's essentially the same thing. So I do not exclude the possibility of this. But I would not call such gamblers vulnerable. Rather, I would classify them according to the degree of engagement (the frequency of gaming sessions) and the level of bets (the amount of money).

Including the words "ethical", "gambling" and "casino" in one sentence is kinda laughable.
I'm not saying that all casinos are unethical. Some casinos are really legit and they provide honest terms and good customer support.
The problem is that gambling by default isn't supposed to be ethical. All casinos have house edge and you know that "the casino always wins", but you keep playing. The casinos targeting more active and high paying gamblers is a totally normal thing for the gambling business. Every business in the world wants paying customers. The gamblers should deal with their addictions. The casino won't help them deal with their addiction. Self-exclusion systems and "responsible gambling" policies do exist, but I don't think that they are effective.

Yes, I do agree, like the word "moral" or "ethical" should not be put in one sentence? Why, it's because casinos are established to make money. So they want to attract as much as client as they can offer anything from free drinks and hotel accommodation for land base casinos, to deposit bonus to online. So that's how it is setup, it depends on individuals and I think they are not targeting those vulnerable but everything that they can make sign in their casinos. So if by chance you fall and become addicted, then I think the casinos are not going to be blame. And then there are some who just play for fun and so they might know the deal and so they will not go and become addicted. So take it what it is.

What's this supposed to mean? Is gambling the reason why a man must lose his senses and start doing stupid things like selling his properties to gamble or avoiding bills all because he want to win life changing money through gambling?

The casino has no blames at all, stupid are gamblers who don't see casinos as a business runners, because that's what they do, trying to make money, if everyone think the same way they will move with highest caution.

Casinos are not to be blame for your own greed, it might be true that they know how to monitor gamblers but who makes the call the in end if not you? Let's stop blaming others for our own decisions.

I also don't think that a reputable casino will target their vulnerable gambling customers just to be milking them more, gamblers are already losing everyday so I don't think that would be their focus. What I can relate with is giving bonuses to wagers that deposit the most, they get VIP treatments so that they'll be engaged more and be encouraged to be depositing more. It's a business strategy for the casinos to retain their big spenders so I don't think that targeting serial losers will be the case. Casinos should be fair and they should concentrate on their house edge to be profitable.

Loyalty bonus are mostly about targeting those vulnerable gamblers who tend to lose more.
Casino operates for profit and they love people who lose. They'd happily go over their regular behavior to please and retain these regular gamblers. Gambling, specially the pure luck ones always ends up earning the house the % of house edge they keep. It's not much different for them who wins or lose, anyone playing long enough would always lose.

Ethics is difficult to determine in gambling. The person gambling already consents that he may lose it all. Yet, they proceed with it. Casinos asking them to gamble more are just making it quick and easy.

It is true that the casinos and every other gambling platforms do have statistic data's of their users but that is not limited to losers but also the winners statistics.

I have been playing on the casinos for couple of years now and I don't think it is true that they considers special promos to regular losers instead, they considers promos based on the regular funding of your wallet (s) which of course you might be a looser or winner user in the regular or irregular perspective

I have to be agreed with you partially because loyalty bonus or promotions are mostly leveled for all which mean they have never been supposed to be target anyone even we have mostly data of gamblers those lost into this with higher rollers or winners are also enjoyed benefits.
Gambling is always mindset because you never know about results you can win while you can also lose which is not easy to predict no doubt casino mostly love to have losers, but many also have profit from winners as well because they are taking commission from game provider.
Casino always keep things on level because they are running business which always needed to be had something positive for them but here always this rule never works they give promotions or bonuses to losers because winners also took advantage of them.

We're not really sure about it, I read some terms and conditions that they might close an account if they suspect that the user is getting addicted, I'm not just sure if they really do. I think they have stats on that but I think they don't just shows them promos specifically but would rather upgrade them to VIP and possibly treat them like, higher rake back, give them some more bankrolls to keep them play and deposit even more. I think they just give same promo as everyone no matter what? But I'm not a technical guy so I don't know maybe their developer do have that kind of features in their platform.

I have the conviction that casino owners love to have people who are addicted to gambling because it's those addicted gamblers that put in more money into gambling since they are repeatedly putting in their money, the casinos knows what interest people the most and that's why they try to implement those services and features so that they can trap so many customers to be addicted.

I don't think they can do that, how can they understand that you are vulnerable and it would be unethical. If a casino is caught doing something like that i think it's over forever and no one will ever play there.
No, in my opinion, casinos don't need these tricks, you simply play and they entice you with bonuses.

Yeah, casinos definitely target vulnerable gamblers. If you’re someone who bets a lot and tends to lose, they’ll notice and start sending you personalized promos, bonuses, and even VIP perks to keep you playing. Ofcourse these are generated messages specifically for you as team monitors progress of each players and It’s not random. They track your behavior and know exactly who’s likely to keep spending.

Is it ethical? Not really. They’re profiting off people who are often struggling to stop. Which is part of every business in online casino.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think the offers you get depend on your VIP level. Still, whether they use those tactics or not, they'll continue to make a profit and attract players. If someone's addicted, they'll come back even without those offers. I actually have a second casino account that's not VIP and not even verified since I barely use it, yet I still receive offers. The last email I got was basically encouraging me to make a comeback. Anyway, you can always turn off that feature if you don't want to receive any emails or offers from them.

It’s normal for a business especially casino to send special promo for those profitable for them since that’s their way to gain more profit from user that has interest on casino games.

Same with other businesses that regularly send notifications promo if you add their product on your shopping list.

There’s nothing wrong with this method unless user is already self excluded.

I think this is again another try to replace responsibility for a loss. In addition to casinos cheating on purpose, now its vulnerable gamblers. Imho casino could do nothing, just press huge green START button and it will start making money, people will keep winning and losing, casino owners will become more and more rich. But people will always came up with ideas that casino treat them incorrectly, give special treatment and etc. Do you really believe that casino on purpose search for weak, drunk, silly, reckless, vulnerable gamblers? Imho its people and their greed that make all these stories. Even if casinos have statistics, gamblers also have access to that statistics, and can make conclusions if they should continue or stop gambling. Imho casinos do nothing, its people who themselves create troubles and situations.

Even if they target you, the decision is yours to take it or not; it’s like in physical casinos, as long as you have the money and you are willing to play, they will let you play.

You have to protect yourself when playing in a casino; if you are vulnerable and prone to losing control, then you are betraying yourself.

Casinos are profit profit-driven company, so you should know when it’s time to stop and when to play. Always be guided by the mantra of playing with money that you can afford to lose.

Casinos do not target vulnerable gamblers or take vulnerable gamblers as an advantage.  Casino don't force gamblers to take high risk oracle gamblers to gamble like the way they want. Gambling is just like other things individuals crave for and they go after it just the way they like. The casino can't stop you when you are over playing, they won't even notify you to stop playing when it is getting too much. It is just like other things people patronise, you can patronise just the way you like and no one will stop you.

It is only you that can know the limit you want in gambling and you can always always control your limits just with discipline.  Gamblers are responsible for the limit and risk,  after all most casinos will give gamblers the awareness to gamble responsibly.

I don't think so. What they wanted to happen is to make everyone who gambles with them get the desirable and unforgettable experience that gives them a reason to come back. With the number of casinos now, competition is certain, and to get a returning and loyal gambler is going to be tough. That is why they challenge themselves to give the best service they have, whether you are a new or an old gambler.

Services offered are a huge factor that attracts more gamblers. Casinos are certain with their goal, and that is to make you come again and spend more.

I agree to this part. Casino has self exclusion feature for gamblers that don’t want to gamble anymore. The fact that they still don’t choose to permanently self exclusion their account means they still have an interest to gamble.

Casino doesn’t abused this customer by offering bonus since it’s their way to motivate players to play back and to become a regular gambler again.

In fact, players can recover part of their losses from this bonuses since it often doesn’t have hard requirements to claim.

This is interesting- I am more curious about the process on how a gambling establishment knows that a person is considered "vulnerable" to begin with.

I do believe, however, that gambling companies keep all the data in order to produce such algorithm to attract its users. But I do doubt that they can distinguish persons who are vulnerable from not vulnerable because all of those are only assumptions. You need to have concrete data (e.g. knowing the family history of the gambler, its respective finances, etc.).


I agree with you.

Instead of arguing whether a casino knows that such person is vulnerable or not, they pattern everything to the data that they have. If a person has reached a high-tier of VIP levels in his account, then more promotions would be offered to him.

gambling ads flies around almost every here and there and wether you are not even a gambler or you are just an entry level gambler or one that is a vulnerable gambler, the ads will get to you. for the ones that are already gambling and are either addicted or have become vulnerable to gambling addiction,  there is no need for casino to face them because it is completely worthless since they will on their own keep coming back to gamble without being compelled to doing so. the audience that casino enjoys are mostly sports lovers and the algorithm just help them reach those that are likely going to be interested in gambling and that way, they easily get people to register on their platforms. with the way gambling has become popular, most casinos don't do too much to persuade people to gamble. they just work to ensure that among the competition they are facing in the industry, that they still stand out as the preferred one.

Of course the casino likes to appear like they care about your well being and such but honestly, they would rather have you be addicted. This is why I find it a bit ridiculous when people wants casino to implement therapy for the addicts. That is essentially building something that will "compete" against their business. You can still gamble without getting addicted but you have to realize that casinos are basically built for you to be addicted to.

Honestly, I do not think that it is ethical in any way since people are already in a vulnerable position and it worsens their condition. Gambling know that once a person is addicted to their services they will come back every time, so they do not even need to literally force the person to play the various forms of advertising that goes on and their accessibility just makes the addiction to gambling grow. Another reason why I believe it is deceptive is that I somehow feel that the glitzy marketing and the bonuses are there to attract attention specifically to people who may already have a hard time with their self-control. It is okay in their business terms but ethically it does not seem right in that they take advantage of the people in their weakness rather than assisting them.

I am not sure the online casino is aiming for vulnerable users, whether it's from the promo, bonus, ads and so on, casinos have a surefire strategy or trick to bind users to continue playing in their casinos.

I have a friend who works as an operator of one of the local casinos in my area, I once asked the same thing "how the casino attracts users to continue playing" the answer is easy.
Operators only monitor new and old users, the situation is different in their assessment and how to maintain them.
New user, They need to let win several times in small amounts, in that way they will be reminded of getting a big win, without being aware of the user's desire to bet in large quantities.
Old users, The calculation is different in comparison of 2/1 means two for one casino for the user, that way the user is comfortable and does not run away from the casino and so on depends on the situation.

Conclusion: In the history of gambling there are no users who have succeeded in making bankruptcy casinos, large amounts of deposit users often, that's gambling.

That's what I'm thinking, maybe casinos also have statistical records of all their players who often play gambling using their casino platform. And they also monitor who is active
and not active gambler for sure.

That's why sometimes I think that the only ones they often give bonuses to are their regular gamblers, even in free spins most of the time and if they have events,
of course they do it to their regular players too of course.

As a gambler, I do find this promotion as helpful because it usually in a form of free cash that I can withdraw immediately after a small wager.

I do manage to get a huge win out of this small bonuses many times that’s why I always frequently checking my mail for casino promotion that exclusive for me.

It works negative or positive depending on how the player view it. If you knew you already have trouble gambling then stop receiving subscriptions email from casino by simply unsubscribing their promotion.

Every casino might one goal on targeted audience of the casino. No casino would be interested to target the poor masses but the middle and upper (rich) people so they can make their needed gain. The vulnerable are just unfortunate to be in the chain of gambling. Now it is the losses from the rich gambling that are used to paid the vulnerable gamblers and the losses of the vulnerable are gathered to use for extra expenses because the vulnerable gambling loss can't pay another rich man win.

I don't think they woud do specific thinks targeting users who lose more but this could be a possibility
their whole economic model works well to keep people coming back and sometimes addicted so they don't really need to focus on exploiting the biggest losers
probably changing RTP on some games, raising fees and launching new games will yield them better profits

Possibly, I think, do every casino owner they can see all user accounts and all their biographies. There is nothing wrong here because they see very easily, who won the highest meaning and who lost the highest. Since each casino is run through algorithm, it is not intentionally losing much money. On the other hand, those who are betting for too much money to get too much money, they can lose more money. And what I can say about the promo code, I think it's the same for everyone. One thing I am noting is offers a bit of deposit. Such as offers free Spain or something else with a minimum deposit. However, for those who use a lot of money and have the most deposits, there is a special offer. And for them, the owner of the casino and the staff always keep in mind.

As far as I know, the promotions and bonuses are identical for all if not region based.
For individuals, I think they do provide with some coupon codes and free spins that the users can take advantage of to continue gambling.
What you are thinking is something different though. I guess reputed casinos won't do such unethical things as they are already earning pretty huge amount of money from the site.
Could be possible with small gambling sites but it's hard to tell. Nobody can find this out except for the employees of that particular site.

The casino algorithm understands the amount each account has wagered so far. So yeah, it automatically sends a type of bonus, tournament, or promo to each user based on their level or wagering done in the casino. Everyone is a target as long as you are using an online casino to gamble regularly. Another way they do this is to take users data, they know how much you bet, how often you stay in the casino, they keep accountability of your win/loss. With these data they can use it to identify which gambler is eligible for a specific type of reward, bonus or promo.

I do not think the word "vulnerable" is the right word to use on gamblers who have been loyal to a particular casino. There are more than enough casinos they can use, but sticking to just one particular casino proves their loyalty.

Just like every other kinds of businesses, these gamblers (customers) who have been consistently loyal to the casino deserve some form of special packages which regular gamblers don't get. The casinos know these special gamblers and treat them specially just to keep them coming.

If you think the casino is going to stop anyone from using their casino simply because they are always gambling with them and losing money as well, sorry that doesn't happen. The casinos want to grow their business with people like this.

The problem is even the poor people will be willing to give their money to the casino and honestly I do not think the casino cares as long as they get paid. However your financial status will be affected is none of their problem as long as you give the money that they require for you to pay. I guess they will target anyone who seems to be more desperate since the poor ones are the ones who are wishing to have a miracle so they can finally recover from being poor.

Vulnerability is only a weakness of those who are unable to stand on their decision about what they want from gambling, it is expected that right before we gamble or choose a casino of tour preferred choice, we should have research about every necessary information needed and got a satisfactory results from them, so that we wont be amazed at seeing anything new at the cause of gambling and think they are only taking advantage of us in gambling and sees it as a vulnerability, when we must have prepared ahead of it to know what can come up.

You know that gambling dens use statistics and artificial intelligence to help them find gamblers that are losing a lot of money then give them customized promo codes to keep them gambling. VIP privileges, and pop out messages and bonus offers aimed to increase their gambling behaviour. I have observed that addicted gamblers get more betting advertisment and are mostly affected by them than other gamblers. thats why governers and the court in the United kingdom and United states have decreed this methods immoral and illegal. so yes addicted gamblers are falling for the trap and it's a problem for morality.

No doubt casino algorithm divide clients into categories and sent them notifications, bonuses, emails individually. But I dont think that system on purpose search for gambles who, lets say, after loosing immediately make another deposit, and start to send reminders in various form to lure them back. Or the system monitor players who immediately leave after loosing all (non-conflict client), and use rigged mechanics to make that player lose money quickly and leave.

I was very clear by saying the algorithms understand every activity done by the gambler, I wouldn't want to list them out again. But I never said it do those things to lure them back into the casino for the purpose of loosing. It is certain that you will receive a type of promotional notifications or bonuses from the casino, only based on your activity. So if the user do not control themselves, of course they will end up taking the offer and may either lose or win in the end. The casino is not to be blamed for that.

I watched this movie before on netflix titled "No More Bets" and it talked about exactly that theory on how online casinos monitor their user's movements. High-rollers get more attractive bonuses if they deposit and gamble more. It's a good movie to watch about gambling though the ending is quite dark.

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It's not ethical on the customer perspective since you're urging the vulnerable gambler to spend more money but as a gambling business owner, you have no choice but to do it and grab the opportunity since people like them are your best customer to execute marketing or promotion strategies.

Usually, the more a gambler plays, the higher their VIP level becomes, and the higher the VIP level, the more bonuses and rewards they can receive. This is a system designed to provide appropriate rewards for users who are loyal to the casino. It’s not about whether it’s ethical or not; it’s about how the system is built to maximize user experience and encourage continued loyalty to the platform. So now, it comes down to the gambler, whether they are able to control their own behavior or become trapped in a system that subtly pushes them to keep playing.

It doesn’t really look like they’re sitting there with a fishing rod, waiting specifically for the most vulnerable gamblers.
It’s more like they cast a wide net and grab everyone they can.

I see casino ads all the time lately, even though I’m definitely *not* their target audience. I’m only interested in the gambling industry as part of crypto market evolution - first it was dominated by darknet markets, then by exchanges, and now it’s casinos.

So vulnerable people get caught simply because they’re part of the huge crowd exposed to these ads.

Those levels are just features the casinos try to keep their customers loyal, it's not really like they are using it to target vulnerable gamblers as some people thought that's what they are doing. You are right in what you said, it's usually the duty of gamblers to stay responsible or to be addicted, the casinos only try to implement features that can make player chose them over other casinos because the competition is really much.

I’ve seen that one too, it’s a great movie, and I believe it’s based on a true story. It showed how people were forced to work for illegal operators against their will, and how these operators had a system to lure gamblers who were easy to get hooked. They’d rig the system, give you a win to draw you in, and later squeeze more money out of you, in the movie, it even led to someone taking their own life.

but honestly, I think casinos will always do whatever it takes to keep gamblers playing. that’s why if we’re being responsible, we should know our limits and not let them drag us that far.

Exactly, Casino is just like any business that wants to make their customers engage more on spending through attractive bonuses but that doesn’t mean they are exploiting vulnerable players.

Players that still checking their promotion mails is obviously still interested on gambling and not the vulnerable one.


I believe most of us here are on legal age which is capable already for being responsible gambler.

Many people are now gambling online, and this isn't limited to one group, but across all walks of life, whether they're still in school, young people, or married. In my neighborhood, quite a few people are attracted to gambling, even though it's actually prohibited. But the existence of online gambling allows them to gamble in secret. Naturally, they're people who crave winning. I think this group is easily attracted by an attractive gambling advertisement, especially if the casino offers a compelling promotion or bonus that entices them.

Casinos themselves aren't wrong in marketing their gambling. It's a business, so it's natural for them to do their best to grow their casinos, one of which is finding ways to attract more people to gamble. I don't think they're focusing too much on this particular target.

There's nothing as taking advantage with such assumption of the casinos and the gamblers. You can read the terms of the casinos and it's made obvious about players qualifications to earn rewards or probably free bets and there's no such that they'd ask players to loose in order to stand on the chance.
To rest the case I've never catch up a sympathy compensation in the casino before and if there's, I think it'll be luring if the casinos considers their promos on loosers.

Every system has someone who's more vulnerable to such system, every human being is vulnerable on something to another depending on the pleasures gotten off that. There are sex club that take advantage of sex addicts too the same goes to drugs as well.

It's business, and that no regulation is against doing business or doing promo to bait those vulnerable ones towards gambling, targeting the vulnerable ones is the hidden agenda but the general public knows the promo is for everyone, those that got attracted makes them rich.

As a business, they want more coverage to earn more profit. They can advertise their brand almost everywhere but some casino has a VIP system and it has a heavy requirements to reach it. I won't really say that it is beneficial because casinos will always ensure that they are ahead over their players.

We might get lucky and only spend less but this can motivate us from playing further and that is where we can now lose more. This casino behaviour may be ethical or may not but what we need to consider here is, if they do it in a misleading way. This is why it is always better to be cautious and read all the terms and conditions attached to it, to decide better if it's worth it.

My definition of vulnerable gambler is gambling addict or person who has tendency to become gambling addict. I really hope casinos don't intentionally target this population, because it could really ruin their lives. I  on some casinos option to voluntarily lock account for some period of time, but I'm not sure how often this option is used, and I wonder if gambling addicts ever use it.

I just want to add my perspective on this matter, where those who are vulnerable often find themselves confused about what they are doing, including in gambling. Such situations always occur, and observing those who cannot control themselves properly, cannot manage their time and emotions effectively, and are easily swayed by the games they play serves as proof that, ultimately, they are quite vulnerable because they are confused about what they are actually doing.

Gambling may seem simple—we just play—but its application in gambling is not as straightforward as it appears, as it indirectly relates to the player’s mentality, responsibility, and emotions. When they force themselves to gamble but fail to recognize these aspects, they are essentially throwing themselves into it helplessly, ready to face the gradual onset of addiction.

One needs to be realistic, though.
How are casinos supposed to know they are dealing with a gambling addict who does not have control over their actions and their money then they are serving with their services to hundreds or thousands of gamblers at the same time? In the way I see it, the staff of the casino have no way on knowing if they are dealing with someone who is suffering from addiction or someone who is simply rich enough to afford to lose a considerable amount of money, that is why people need to opt for voluntarily send a message to the casino staff and ask to be locked out their services.

The only way the casino night have a chance to automatically know whether some user in their casino is addicted, would be by prompting them to upload their proof of funds/salary to the site while registering. something very unpopular and would turn away many potential users from signing up.

Do casinos even know who the addicts are? I don’t think so. They’re just a gambling platform. If they partner with people who can bring in players, they don’t really check whether those gamblers are addicted or not. The focus is purely on business and making profit, nothing personal, just business. As long as they’re not breaking any laws, they don’t see a problem with it.

We have to remember that casinos are a business and if they ever have a stats about who's vulnerable, that only means that they know their target customers. I think that these are not vulnerable gamblers but they chose to gamble and the casinos didn't forced them to get into these promos and giveaways or daily check ins that are conducted to them. I won't think that they're doing an unethical business here unless they're illegal and they have done something wrong related to their genuine wins and balances.

Giving out free games based on regularity is a system designed to make gamblers addicted. I remember how my friends that are gamblers used to fund huge amounts of money because they wanted to attract some bonuses at the end they end up losing both their stake and bonus. Casinos giving out percentage of your losses isn't very catchy to me because they would not give you anything significant

Those individuals that takes gambling very serious are the people that gets too concerned with the promotion and features that the casinos are implementing to trap players, the VIP level is a ustomers loyalty strategy. I don't have any interest in those features, my own is just to go online,
make some deposits,  gamble and off from the casino, nothing more.

I agree with condoras. Casinos, like any other business that advertises on the internet, looks for a (few) specific target(s): gender, age, income, interests... and they could even aim for potential clients with the vulnerabilities the OP mentioned. The problem is that it would be not only unethical, but illegal in many countries (personal data that has to do with health is specially protected) and, most importantly, they don't need to do it, like condoras said: they will know it when they start playing. So their focus shouldn't be in the targeting as much as in the retention.

They are more persistent because they believe that sometime they will hit it big just like I do though I never expect to be hitting that dream anytime soon. I don't know for the other gamblers as maybe they expect to win every time they try but that is very difficult to achieve and about the casinos I doubt they target in a mean way, they don't do that, they for example one person that made 10 deposits in a row or 5 they say to him, enough for today so they don't do that, yet they have statistics and they know extremely well where to target a bonus depending on the people playing, the best bonuses who are teasers also are sent to them. In some casinos I have never received a bonus but I know I don't qualify as I have played only little amount of money compared to people losing hundred or thousand of dollars.

Honestly, I don't know much about it, but rationally, I think there does seem to be special treatment from the casino for gamblers who play there frequently. However, regarding promotions, I think it applies to all new and old gamblers. The special treatment I mean is that the casino doesn't let them continue to lose for too long. What I mean is that when the casino identifies that the gambler has started to play less often, the casino will give a win which will indirectly make the gambler come back more often. Honestly, I can't conclude that the casino treats frequent gamblers better than other gamblers because clearly their goal is still to make players lose more often, but perhaps the casino applies a different scenario to players who come more often.

You have made some solid points and it can't be out any better way than that. A gambler can only be vulnerable or said to be vulnerable if they actually have some weaknesses that can exploited by the casinos and the know weakness we know is gambling addiction. If casino notice that their user players recklessly, they may go as far as running targeted promotion to keep such gambler in their platform. I don't have any proof for this, just my guess and if casinos do that, they have not committed any offense.

There are different kinds of perks for heavy gamblers.
I know one example, though it’s not about crypto but fiat money: the more money you’ve deposited, the more you’re allowed to deposit.
For example, at first your max deposit limit might be a few hundred dollars, but once you’ve lost a lot, you’re allowed to deposit several thousand.

Would you call that targeted behavior aimed at vulnerable gamblers?

The results might not be as significant as if they consistently sent promotions to all their players, especially loyal or highly active ones.
In fact, casinos often send promotional emails to inactive players to encourage them to return, this means they see opportunities for the inactive, not for the vulnerable.
Casinos are businesses, and they have more statistics and a better understanding of what will attract more players.

You would be able to make out those realizations at the time or moment that you do lose up that much money because of gambling and trying out to chase up with those promotions. When you are still a noob then you would be thinking up that these are just that too good promotions on which you can be able to deal with. The primary thinking that you would be having is that you do have that more bigger balance specially on bonuses but you didnt think on what are the problems that you would be able to encounter along the way. There are just that those times that you do become that too excited because you've seen your having that much more money that you can bet or roll on but on the time that you had realized that you cant be able to get out easily then you would be having those regrets on why you have get that promotion or bonuses. These are just indeed traps and if you arent that good on trying out to look on what you've been dealing with, then you are that bound on experiencing out those shit situations specially that leads into gambling addiction and potential losing up tons of money,

Just play in accordance on having that fun and entertainment and never ever tend to chase up loses nor getting yourself that being attracted when it comes to promotions and stuffs. If you arent that good when it comes to handling your emotion then you would be that most likely be ending up on having those unfortunate conditions on which you shouldnt have done this from the start. Always be responsible and be mindful about into the actions that you are taking and not just that basically making yourself that being too impulsive on things.

There are options for gamblers to self-exclude themselves if they feel they are becoming more vulnerable. Let's be honest with ourselves, casinos won't intentionally send away their customers who have been generating profits for except the customer requests for his account to be locked temporarily.
Why would the casinos even do that when the gambler can always go to other casinos if one isn't willing to accept them?

I don't really think if there is anything like vulnerable gamblers and thinking that casinos do targets some set of gambler is avery wrong. The reason why i said so is that there is no gambler that is been forced by casinos to patronise them or to play games in there platform is strictly base on ones decisions. Also the fact that one gambles alot does not make one to become vulnerable gamblers. People who are addicted to gambling, there gambling addiction has not to do with casino since no one or even casino owners are not controlling there actions by mandating then to come and petronise there casino. So there is nothing like vulnerable gamblers, I think addicted gamblers should be more preferable and the casino aren't responsible in any way for there addiction is strict a matter of self control.

In my opinion, not all casinos are the same, but there are some that target risky and addictive gamblers. There are many casino sites that monitor addictive gamblers, among them they monitor the behavior of the players, who is losing how much money, or who is regularly gambling, and also many casinos monitor which players are gambling for a long time. For those who gamble a lot and become addicted and lose money, casinos often make attractive and tempting offers that attract gamblers even more. Especially addicted gamblers get mentally involved in it and their behavior is not very good, as a result of which they are always at risk. However, not all types of casino sites do this, there are some cheating sites that treat the players in a way that makes it more risky.

I wonder if delf exclusion option is available because of regulatory reasons or casinos really have need to stop vulnerable population from gambling? Probably what I mentioned first is the reason for that option.

And of course casino will probably accept anyone as long as they deposit.

I have come across data that some operators may use player behaviour analysis to encourage players to play more and part with their money: bonuses or VIP programs, targeted offers, special conditions, and so on. However, this is not outside the normal rules by which casinos operate. Industry regulations, , require responsible gaming measures - self-exclusion programs, spending limits and age verification, but we understand that business is business and no one will work at a loss. However, at least formal adherence to the rules should be expected everywhere, except in countries with possible legal cynicism.

It is true gamblers who are vulnerable are those that are addicted to gambling, they will utilize every bonus opportunities to continue gambling. But I don't think that casinos targets them with enticements so that they will have reasons to be coming back without taking breaks. Who I believe that casinos target are big spenders that gambles with a lot of money, they will give them VIP bonuses as an enticement to keep gambling and making more deposits. I don't think that a reputable casino will have such time to target any vulnerable gambler because they have many gambling customers.

It's when the gambler can not control themselves and thereafter becomes irresponsible gamblers, that is when they become vulnerable to the casino. If the person is just gambling little my little, they will not be not lose as much as they would have if they were compulsive and casino love it to see people spending a lot to gamble. If you don't gamble like that, they won't be so profitable.

You are on point, bonuses are just way to keep the gamblers In the game... let's imagine that casinos doesn't give out free games to their big stakers this might be a discouragement to them, they keep the minds of gamblers enticed with these free games and when it's exhausted due to a loss it would prompt the gambler to keep staking... only those that are disciplined can avoid such mental trap

Lots of casinos for sure targets vulnerable gamblers, like those who play with high frequency but losses more often. They don't offer randomly; rather they become more aggressive toward those most likely to continue spending, though they are losing.

Whether it is ethical? In my perspective, no. When a business has knowledge of a person's vulnerability but uses it to push him deeper into hurtful acts, that going beyond boundaries. It moves from organizing a game to leveraging on weakness. Responsible gambling is about protections, not manipulative acts.

Here's my theory, their target are not just People that are rich or those that spend more money because even some people who are struggling financially still lose a lot of money in gambling. I would say that their targets are those that are addicted or Indisciplined. They don't force anyone to get addicted because that's your choice as a person but basically the system is designed against addicted gamblers

Why do you think eligibility concern rises and a gambler's status is very much required when it comes to promotional bonuses and grants by the casinos? They can see your daily, weekly, monthly and yearly spendings and that's how they decide if some restrictions should be made for you or not.

Vulnerability, especially when observed at close range is often taken advantage of by whosever holds the lead position. Their promotions would often give hope to those rich, but unlucky gamblers that may begin to lose interest as a result of losing too much.
As long as it doesn't involve a forceful attempt, it is.

this also can only happen if they have a big amount of disposable income or the means to acquire a lot of money (borrow from a bank, from a friend or something like that
If I'm not mistaken there's people who lost a lot on a gambling website, then sued the betting website saying they were out of control and could get their money back but I'm not sure
you have to be alert all of the time

Gambling has so many facets that I am not even surprised anymore that teams of analysts and psychologists have developed systems that should attract newbie tumblers more and more until they stop thinking about anything but gambling.
When I registered on one of the online casino sites in order to just play for 50 of the won promo deposit, I was very surprised at how I began to be attracted by the program for beginners that if I deposit a little more money, I will become a VIP client, if I deposit a little more, I will get free spins. And if I deposit a little more money, there will be a lot of promotions from the online casino.

You have given a good explanation @Julien_Olynpic. A gambler cannot claim that his vulnerability has been exploited if he doesn't trigger some protective options like self-exclusion and spending limits. Encouraging patrons to keep gambling through enticing offers are marketing strategies applied even outside the gambling environment. But there have been some cases when casinos fail to self-exclude gamblers after a request has been made. In such a situation, the casinos should be held responsible because they have failed to operate within the provisions of the law.       

Yes a lot times they do that to lure them to gamble more and they execute that through bonuses and promo and clearly enough the gamblers can't shy away from such opportunities. But it's so bad to have use gamblers vulnerability on them in such manner, though I'm not certain about them using this same strategy for other users and I find it not ethical.

That’s just plain stupidity. There’s no real victim here, gambling sites will always find ways to attract players, and as long as what they’re doing isn’t illegal, then they’re not at fault.

We’re all of legal age, which means we’re responsible adults. If we fall for their promos or offers and end up losing more money, we can’t blame the casino. The decision was ours. A responsible gambler knows that, you take the blame, not pass it on to someone else.

I don't think the word " Vulnerable " should be used to describe gamblers who cannot control their own urge and desires to gamble in a casino. I believe the word " addiction " might be the more suitable word to describe gamblers who are unable to stop themselves from getting deeper into debts while constantly trying their luck in a casino with bonuses given to them and hoping they could recoup all their losses back. That is also the reason why it is important for casinos to have the self exclusion option so gamblers who found themselves seriously addicted to gambling could still have a way to at least stop gambling by excluding themselves from the casino.

Maybe the author means that vulnerable people are those who have had a difficult life situation, or who are so tired of their routine that they become very vulnerable to casino manipulation, such as annoying advertisements, and eventually decide to play, and think that this will change their life.
But when they really can’t imagine their life without a casino, and start lying to their families and giving away money without control, then the word “addicted” can be applied to such people.

the main thing is
are gamblers vulnerable or choosing to gamble?
nobody force them to hit the button
the crazy thing is that this simple question don't have an easy answer, because anyone who studied a little bit of marketing knows that our minds fail and are prone to be hijacked way easier than we'd like to

it's crazy but it happens.

Of course, such players are addicted in the majority, but this does not mean that they do not need to resist this and try to overcome themselves in order to stop. Honestly, sometimes it is necessary to stop and not gamble in order to take a break, it helps to rethink all the processes in the game, perhaps this is the time to think over your strategy, of course, if we play not thoughtlessly relying only on luck. I often watch videos with vulnerable and addicted players to always remember that I can become the same, it helps to keep myself in good shape and under control.

If a site gives bonuses to gamblers, it is their business. It is natural that they can create such traps to attract them, but gamblers have to be aware. If they are caught in their trap out of greed, then it is their failure. Gambling platforms can do anything for their profit, there is no room for blame. However, all licensed casino gambling platforms must operate within a policy. What I personally understand is that it is your responsibility to control yourself in gambling, so there is no point in blaming others.

While this can be true, attention must be given to the details. If an operate is offering different things for free that does not mean that they are doing this to target vulnerable players. If you assume that everyone is doing it for malicious reasons then no good operator can provide any kind of bonuses or promotions. If the operator is data mining and then targeting players that are very susceptible to these things then they are malicious. A simple way would be to do an analysis on the response rate to previously given bonuses and offer. Some people will not use them, others will use them but not play more, and the last group will use them and play a lot more after. If after gathering such data the casino uses it to target the last group only, then it is doing evil.

It's possible to keep tracked of every users on their site and know which one is always active am gamble. Such person might be given various offers on the site and as well his account might be upgraded to various higher level just so he would be drawn to continue playing. It's all about their marketing strategy. They just want what's best for them and their goal is to make money and for you to loss as well. So it then depends on the gamblers style of gambling if he's a regular then he literally would be a target by the casino..

They always choose to gamble, no one can force them. But if they are vulnerable they will do that more easily and even if they shouldn't have to. For example I can have $1000 and put all of that on a gambling website because I'm vulnerable and think irrationally that I can deposit $1000 double it and take it in less than 1 hour. But I lose it and then I'm screwed without any money to pay the bills and have to take loans to survive.

It's important to know that people vulnerable just like they are to heroine and other drugs.

I salute casinos for having this option because they could just keep milking the addicted users, but they give them a path to stop and try to think before gambling what they can not lose.

I personally don't think casinos target a specific group. They build their casino businesses with the goal of generating profits, and I think they simply market their products accordingly. Anyone can gamble if they understand the steps. Although casinos likely won't allow it for minors, with the advent of online casinos, there are sometimes underage children who can gamble online.

Casinos will offer a number of attractive offers, and those addicted to gambling will likely be enticed by these attractive offers. However, those who truly understand gambling won't be attracted to the casino's offers, as they understand them to be merely marketing strategies.

Casinos can't shy away from giving out bonuses to gamblers because this is how they promote their business. In every business where money is involved, bonuses are given to customers. Therefore, we can say that bonuses are meant to attract customers and also contribute to the growth of the casino.

 Bonuses shouldn't be a problem for gamblers because there are many gamblers for whom these bonuses don't significantly affect their attachment to the casino. It is only those who don't understand gambling who may be used to being lured into gambling more than their limits by bonuses. I believe every gambler should be responsible for their gambling activities, and casinos shouldn't be held accountable for their bonuses and other offers.

It may be true but I think it depends from casino to casino and is influenced by their managers decisions. That being said it is sad.truth that gambling addicts are casinos most loyal customers, and I doubt casinos would give away that steady stream of money.

yes, it's crazy how our neurotransmiters and rationality probably plays a role on that
some people will just be built in a different way and way more able to avoid determined addictions, and sometimes even if they can avoid something like gambling it could be harder for them to avoid drugs... the human body is really complex and interesting.

That's right, and it's a pity that so few gamblers in the world know about our forum, because it is here that many casinos are provided that are verified. No matter how many reviews gamblers read on the Internet, many of them can be faked or bought, but here on our forum, if any questions arise, everyone can ask a question directly to the casino manager or team. And everyone will see it.
And we will immediately receive a direct answer or comment from the online casino promoter. And this is cool, because I have seen many false reviews from influencers who were paid money to praise unscrupulous casinos.

Just as much you want to win that’s how the casino also want to win too . But I can’t tell if they have any means of targeting vulnerable gamblers just as you mentioned, but am sure the casino also want to make profits from their gamblers just as most gambler want to make from the casino also . But the truth losses are inevitable even to those vulnerable and those that are not you just have to be disciplined in order to control and minimize losses .

There is no way we can verify that they just target and send promotional events to the users who lose more in their platform, but if they do it is not the right way but it's just a business so everything is right.

I would share some of my expereince here so you can come into a conclusion, I usually receive bonus via mail too and some even from casino I never deposited anything at all but registered to check it out means it's just a random and targetting the users who is not active in their platform not the same way as you describe. And it is our choice to ignore or swallowed up.

I think they target all gamblers. Bonus offers aren't usually targeted at a specific audience. Except when the casino works with different levels of gamblers, in which case the offers are specific to that level. Those who gamble more can't be considered "vulnerable," but rather those with greater financial power, and the casino will certainly do everything it can to keep these gamblers spending with them, offering a range of perks.

And I think that the goals of online casino advertising are always two types of gamblers:
1) those who have just made one bet and they need to be lured further so that they continue to play.
2) And the second type are those players who have played for a very long time, but now for some reason have decided to quit this business and then the casino tries to create triggers with advertising. And it's hard to resist for this category of gamblers.

Everyone has the expectation of winning, every gambler wants to win, but not everyone can ever win, here you must bear losses, because casino houses will never give you wins by losing themselves, they are in business here and they must have profits, also everything is under their control here, so a casino will never face losses, the loss will be only for the gambler, and here those who will keep chasing losses and try to recover the losses, will end up with even bigger losses. So these things must be kept in mind, you must know when to stop and stop yourself at the right time, then it will be responsible.

I don't know whether it is true or not, but I have seen some people in interviews (mostly on YouTube videos), claiming to have worked for casinos in management positions. They assure brink-and-mortar casinos indeed have a system of classification, depending on how much the house have won thanks to specific gamblers and their accumulated wager.
Problematic gamblers are those who usually have good luck and get money from the casino (according to the person interviewed).
It seems the world culture of brick-and-mortar casinos is quite different from the culture which is held by online/crypto casinos, the former actively seek to category their gamblers.

They are in for business they are not here to run any form of charity and stuff . So if you endup being irresponsible in gambling you are just being customer because if you are not following budget you will just keep losing that’s why is good to take it as a paid entertainment something you do for fun that even when you lose there won’t be need for any form of revenge  rather just flow with it  and move on may be other time you will get lucky while enjoying the game at same time .

yes and no
I agree that they're not a charity but there are more ethical ways to run a business and unethical ones
you can raise your margins by a lot give a really low RTP, ask KYC not allowing winners to withdraw, you you'll make more profits because you're not a charity in any form but at the end of the day you'll lose credibility and probably go out of business if we give it enough time

does it make any sense?

I don't agree that casinos actually targets some specific sets of people casino's musk like any other business is just targeting all set of people to patronize them irrespective of game region or even those vulnerable to gambling addiction because everyone who is gambling should be above +18 at that age it's expected that you have a good sense of judgement so if anyone is falling prey to gambling activities it's not caused by any casino because casinos will always promote their business

Targeting vulnerable populations is something that is done by quite a few industries.  For example, once I learned that the telemarketers who call your phone aren't actually trying to sell you anything, but are looking for elderly or mentally handicapped people to take advantage of, it changed my way of interacting with them.  Now, instead of listening to their pitch, I just tell them I want to buy whatever they are selling.  It catches them off guard and they immediately want to get off the phone because they aren't actually selling anything.  They're searching for victims.  Try it.  I bet you can't keep a telemarketer on the phone for more than 30 seconds no matter what you say (unless you pretend to be mentally handicapped). 

Few days earlier I tried a casino site, it gives me 150 free spins of Sweet Bonanza . I player and won more than $80 , and winning was so easy. It was like it's designed to win. Well most casino offered 40x wagering requirements to get the bonus. But that casino only set the requirements in 20 , but a 3day time limit. I've to complete it within 3days but not all games is applicable only their selected bonus game. Here's the trick, their bonis game will trap you and you will loose more than your bonus amount.

Eventually they came here to do some business if gamblers are going to grab some easy cash how will they do business. It is legal as long as they state this in their Tos. Unless they are doing cheating in their original games

These arent charities but rather its a business and they are making that tons of money with those losing gamblers that do play into their site on which means that there's no way that they would be giving out some advantage into their gamblers considering that would be giving out that huge impact into their business and thats not what they want. So you can expect out that they are doing something that would be against to those gamblers. This is how this industry works and if you arent that mindful in towards your gambling activity and just that spending out just like there's no tomorrow then you are just that making those business owners to be that more even rich. Gamblers should be at least that responsible into the actions that they are taking on and not just that making themselves that getting burned totally.

When you are playing gambling then always be considerate into the actions that you've been that having into specially when dealing up with gambling. Always be sure that you should be that only make use of the amount that you can afford to lose so that you wont be that ending up on being impulsive.

Casinos may actually have a statistical data of their customers because it does help them in ascertaining their profit margin and accessing their performance so far, I wouldn't want to believe they do not have such  data base which ranges from individual gamblers to te whole body as a whole but victimising their customers by knowing the vulnerable ones from this data may not be the case for most of these casinos and I do not want to believe that. These Casino has got insurance so they will not have to bother with losses often.

No it is not ethical to treat vulnerable gamblers indifferently and that is why there are usually regulatory bodies in charge of them.

That is many free spins you got because I rarely get free spins and also a big win. But hey, with 20x wagering requirements and a 3-day time limit, it should not be easy to reach. We will still difficult to reach the wagering requirements.

I just think that the bonus game is a trap for greedy gamblers so they can not think about stopping gambling. They will still chase the wagering requirements no matter if they spend more money.

If they are wise gamblers, they will not try to take the bonus because they will consider that is difficult for them. They know what they should do and will not spend more money just to gamble.

That's what I was saying too, as long as the casino already put their laws of only gamblers above the age of 18, they expect that who ever is gambling must be responsible already, they don't even know who is addicted or not. The casinos will still make profit whether customers are addicted or not because the system is designed such that the house always win against every gambler.

Not all casinos are this unfair, this is a pure scam and a speculation on people who want to gamble, obviously these strange winnings always affect games like slots which are more addictive than all, so be careful and play only in serious casinos

Yeah, I agree with that. Small or big, that's still profit for them. Everything is about making money, so they don't need to pick those high rollers just to look unfair. It is unfair, especially in slot and casino games, so they don't really have to target anyone to win. It is natural because of the house edge, so even if a person bets 1 million and the other $1, both will probably lose in the long run.

I've seen high rollers win very big amounts with a high stake on the line, and their names keep popping out almost every 2 days. It just means there is no such thing as a targeted player.

Well, I agree with the both of you, something the other user said which I like very much is that those with lots of money are more vulnerable to whatever tactics a casino brings up to win and keep their customers because this is what every casino that wants to succeed in the gambling industry wants, they want to keep as many high rollers are possible because this is the type of gamblers they will be making good money from; from time to time.

And when it comes to winning and losing, I would say that the casinos are sure fair to both the high rollers and the pleb or crayfish gamblers, as winning and losing is simply algorithmed and not hand picked by those who run the casino, if winners were handpicked by the management of the casino, then it would have been safe to accuse or say that casinos are picking only the high rollers as winners in a game where both high rollers and crayfish gamblers are playing which will be absolutely unfair.

I think the implementation of this rule has become standard practice. Self-control is also influenced by age. The older a person is, the more mature their self-control should be. But I have my doubts, because this requirement can be circumvented by underage users. They use fake identities.

Furthermore, I think all casinos won’t think that far ahead. Considering whether they are addicted or not. Casinos only provide facilities and requirements to meet licensing requirements. They will continue to focus on providing gambling entertainment. So I think casinos will keep thinking about how to attract more visitors and make a profit.

As far as I know, every business wants to take an advantage for those who can give them potential profits, and casino is not an exception. As much as possible, they will create a marketing strategy so that you will get more attracted to play by sending you various promos and bonuses, it’s up for you if you will bite that offer or not. But I don’t know if it’s done on a specific person or everyone gets uniform promos information because the more get informed, the higher the profit potentials will be.

However, what I also experienced is that if you take a break from gambling on that casino, they will send you series of promos infos and invites, that will literally make the gambler wants to play again.

Online casinos usually are concentrated in drawing more clients to make more money, so they might not take precautions & prevent underage gambling. While few platforms use KYC & Self exclusion programs. They have flaws like you could use forged ID to go round the system . Casinos might not frequently impose these rules rigorously, mainly if it deters their profit. So it is very critical that officials look into this & ensure that gambling dens are responsible for protecting underage people.

Yeah I get what youre saying, casinos will always want to keep high rollers around since thats where the big money really comes from, they use different tactics like giving out special comps, free rooms, bonuses and even personal managers just to make sure those players feel valued and keep pouring money into the games, but at the core the wins and losses are still coming from the programmed system and not from someone deciding behind the scenes who should win, that means no matter if youre a small casual player betting little or a high roller betting thousands the actual chances of winning or losing are still the same, the only difference is the scale of money involved, a small player might lose twenty bucks and walk away while a high roller might lose thousands in the same time frame, and that makes it seem like the casino favors one over the other when in reality its just the stakes that create that impression, if the casino really handpicked winners then people would easily catch on and it would destroy their credibility, so they rely on the algorithm to keep everything looking fair, but fair or not the edge is still with the casino and in the long run both the big and small gamblers are exposed to the same risk, its just that the high rollers usually stand out more because of how much they put on the line.

Casino is just providing the games to the players at all, now its up to the player if they will continuously play, I see that perspective more often but after trying to extend my knowledge about this the casino also have the strategy too, they make a lot of promos, and bonuses to the player that they will make more stay with the casino to play, which gives a lot of more convenience to the players. In the physical casino they are offering such as drinks, and also the accessibility of the slot machines, in the online platform they offer free spins and free bets so people feel that the casino really care to them. Now if you are easily distracted person and have a low self consciousness and awareness to yourself probably you will get caught with this traps to stay.

You're right it's up to the gambler if he or she will continuesly gamble or not because that is the deciding factor when it comes to gambling your ability to stay self discipline and not exposing yourself to excessive gambling so I do think that casinos are actually targeting a specific group of people who they feel is vulnerable to gambling addiction

I believe casinos give their promos based on the activity of the gambler on their site and that doesn't necessarily mean that they are targeting the gambler with promos just to keep them glued to their site, every gambler are treated the same way regardless of their performance. Personally I've received promos from casinos for being consistent in the casino site even though I don't really gamble with huge amount and I don't always lose my money, everyone is treated equally and I think giving promos to gamblers that are playing consistently and losing is just a way of compensating them once in a while for losing more money on the site.

The organizers of these games are humans so it's easy for them to know how others think and ways that they can be lured into gambling. For majority of gamblers it's true promotions. Sometimes casinos send out messages to their big stakers probably when they are inactive for a while, the text contains exciting bonus offers that might be hard for some people to resist, it's no doubt that they have a targeted audience

Yeah right, everything is about the money that casino will be able to bank out against the gamblers, they don't need to target any specific gamblers as the design of this business is to earn and generates profits, whoever will the gamer in the long run if they don't have that experienced to limit their sessions, they'll be ended up losing.

Though for those wise gamers who can control and manage their finances and time spent to the house, chances to win is also possible. A matter of good timing when winning and cashing out profits that earned.

It's not just about promotions. Casinos can also let players who have been losing a lot experience some wins. This gives them the false hope that they're close to breaking even, which keeps them playing. In the end, though, they usually lose more. Combined with strategic promotions, this approach keeps gamblers addicted and makes the casino more sustainable, instead of constantly relying on offering new deals.

imagine the situation
board meeting of a big online casino
the CEO says "we have to raise our LTV per client, how can we do it?"
CMO says "let's take our biggest LTV clients and target them on our ads"

done

who do you think are the biggest LTV clients of gambling companies?

I don't think casinos are specifically for vulnerable people, Casinos are designed so that any vulnerable person, whether poor or rich, can go and have fun The problem is that poorer people, when it comes to this and who don't have the knowledge, tend to think about the lucky breaks and winning a lot of money, but that's not the case. It seems to me that the casino industry is a business and that it's aimed at all types of adults.

What is LTV here?

I think it makes all sense to target whales that spend the most money, just like Rolex is advertising on F1 and other sports events that are more common among richier people. You don't see Rolex advertising on a TV show about how to save money, because it makes no sense to try to capture this kind of people who will not use the product.

And not about gambling addiction or vulnerable players.

I don't believe they are targeting a certain gambler when they decided to start their business. It's the same with everyone else. If a gambler placed a bet for a certain team with a x1.6 multiplier in sports betting, the online bookie cannot tell if he will win or not. So how come they are able to control it and target someone else if they don't even know the results?
I think this is just a conspiracy theory, especially with movies showing that these things happen. For me, it's a system that only works in an online casino, not in sports betting.

It is aimed towards all kinds of adults who are willingly to throw some money for the sake of thrill, however I believe this thread is rather about some casinos which use some questionable practices in order to increase their volume and keep as many players hooked to their services as possible, though.
You may not heard about those practices because they are more common in brick and mortar casinos, and you frequent online casinos.
Anyways, in the end, it is within the power of each one of us as gamblers to decide when to walk away from the gambling floor or log out our sessions.

Casino gambling was created to make profit and not to benefit the gamblers, any win gotten by a gambler is a mistake or you can call it luck, the system was designed to get people hooked and take their money. Like you said, vulnerable gamblers will always arise, this is as a result of their greed and indiscipline. Vulnerable gamblers are those that get addicted or dependent on gambling. These are the casinos targets

Gambling platforms uses the principles of psychology to target the vulnerable ones and those that can't fight the addictive traits he has as a habit, casino platform knew exactly that, every addicts are present in anything that rewards pleasure, quick profit aimers, and many other things.

It's not the power of the addict to take himself out of gambling trap, he might try to get out of the mess but it may not seems to be possible, there he needs external support to help out.

Caisnos are targeted at vulnerable people, every business has a targeted audience and we shouldn't be expecting caisnos to target those that can take advantage of them. They want to make profit too therefore their best customers has to be the ones that they can make a profit from. But we don't have to be the victims in this as it doesn't make sense that people that get daily advice about gambling addiction yet they're the ones becoming the victims.

Our intentions to gamble shouldn't make us become victims of circumstances. We should always have our priorities right and gamble to be entertained irrespective of we winning or losing.

But where do you exactly draw the line which separates advertising, marketing and other legitimate ways to promote a business and some practices which are questionable in the moral sense? I have drawn my line pretty clearly, a casino uses bad practices when they don't comply with the basic regulations which seek to protect people who are addicted to gambling. Some casinos which are very shady have been caught not excluding gamblers who have sign in for self-exclusion, for the sake of them to continue to gamble away more money. That is something which can never be tolerated.

When comes to marketing, as long as there is nothing illegal, like false advertising going on, then it is fair.

It is a very complex topic, we could literally debate on it for hours and the line get blurry of we consider those who have some genetical pre-disposition to become addicted, but casinos cannot know that. It is the duty of those people to self-exclude and walk away.

True, it's not like a charity that will give money to those users but instead a business that the intention is to make money and grow along the way, and considering that intention most likely they will target the audience that will bring them money, and like what you have said there's no victim if everyone who will attached themselves to gambling knows their limitation and have that good acknowledgement to accept mistakes and move forward.

Now that you mentioned it, especially the first two questions you asked here, I'm thinking there could be a possibility to that because casinos (sites in general) have a way of checking stuff like that. If that happens, such a casino lacks integrity. If people were ever to find out, that casino would be as good as gone. Patronage would be lost. I hope the last question is what transpires across casinos, anyway.

However, I do know that casinos (other sites too, especially trading platforms) do send their dormant or inactive users bonuses to energize them into coming back and using their platforms. That type of incentives are okay and not out of place for me.

And this is why gambling is most likely to lose, casinos are in business here, so they will never give you their own money, but most of the time they will take money from you.
And those who understand this fact and can maintain the right mindset that it is not possible to achieve success from it, can be responsible to themselves and limit their activities.
Those who do not expect too much from gambling, that is, gamble only for entertainment with a mindset of accepting defeat, can enjoy it.
But those who have the wrong mindset, most of the time they exceed their limits, and they continue to face big losses.

Their main target are gamblers that are consistent...I noticed that I was making use of a sports book consistently for over a year then I stopped for a while...i started getting sms notification from the sports book about different bonuses they were offering me and other offers as well...This tells you that the casino or bookie makes money off those that are consistently gambling, not per time gamblers

LTV is a common term in digital marketing, it's widespread in web 2 and web 3 as well in traditional business and startups
it's the Lifetime value of the client, the total amount someone spends on your goods and services in their life

if you sell things for the bedroom and the client buys a mattress for I don't know 500 usd
then 3 months later buys sheets for 90 usd the total LTV for this client is not 590

some companies will check LTV of the costumer and focus on the ones that are spending more with them to grow their revenues in a faster way

They are the usual likeable players of the casinos. If they deposit more and they often lose, they're surely get more notifications about the updates, promos and other usual stuff that the casinos promote so that they'll get to deposit more. I wouldn't say they're vulnerable but they're the actual target market of the casino. We as gamblers know that this happens often because they're a business and they know to whom they'll send all of the updates that they have for us to be interested and join them if we're eligible for it.

Of course, such players will attract more attention than those who rarely make deposits, probably the casino has a database and analyzes it, including the game of these players and offers exactly those options that the player will most likely like, because they know his style of play and bets. In short, this is a business, and in business it is important to understand where exactly the cash flows come from. Therefore, I would not even be surprised at this, because if TKO is unable to apply these things and understanding with data analysis, those casinos will simply be forced out by competitors.

Who would think they're vulnerable when they have an aim to harvest wealth from an establishment they assume vulnerable as well. Some players think the casinos are not aware of their actions and find it as a business ran by vulnerable people who don't know what to do with money. Different perspectives for unique players and the house manifest according to universal factors, that'll help them appear like dummies to the players who would think they're smart.

If players who fall for the tricks of the house saw it as a trick they wouldn't have stayed too long in the trap of depositing more than they have won believing the house is for charity. So, when the gamer is in to win the house, they'll unknowingly be the vulnerable one that'll end up paying the house. That is why it's called a game.

They surely have that database and records and they have it on their algorithm and so, it's normal to have it noticed by them. And you're right, this is a business and they'd do everything in their capacity to attract all of those targeted customers by theirs based on their niche and database.

I agree, it's why it's called a game. We can classify ourselves to be said as vulnerable gamblers but, we also have something to say when it's with the house when we've been winning against them.

There is no doubt about it, sometimes you need all the help possible to get out of that mess, but there are people who do not accept their condition, who need help, they only ask for help when they already have many errors mounted on them, like having lost almost everything they have and having lent money and well all those things that people always do out of pure desperation, and that is what causes Addiction.

I totally agree with that. People need to understand that casinos are businesses, and like any normal business, they work for revenue and want to generate as much as possible, so they do everything they can to make that happen. Why do people think they do so many promotions, giveaways, and give bonuses to their customers? It's so that they can get as many customers as possible, and they know that gambling as a business is designed in such a way that they are eventually going to get something out of those customers despite the bonuses given to them.

And you are also right that those of us who gamble should know what we are doing. It's their job to make us gamble with them so that they can make money, but it's our responsibility to make sure that we are not overdoing it. When you go shopping, you do spend some money and buying things that you need or want, but you don't spend all your life-savings in a single day, do you? Similarly, when we gamble, we should do it if we enjoy it, but we should know our limits, and stay within them.

You are right, vulnerability here means that one way or that other gamblers are very much involved in gambling but they are now slow due to other activities they might be involved in. It's true that that casino targets those that are vulnerable, these gamblers have no control of their impulses especially when they are losing. Gambling shouldn't be a reason why we should make disciplined decisions

I would agree with you on that part that some guys do not accept that they are victims of gamble addiction, and this is the very root to continues destruction of themselves having failed to identify that they are getting ruin gradually or refusing to accept their conditions and letting people help them out, that is a basic cause. futhermore casinos are only here to make money so, whatever brings the money whether it ruins people or not it's their target to get the people who are vulnerable to it to be trapped.

Those who fully understand the risk will have that discipline inside them to practice only the set up that they intend to do when playing, they know that without luck you won't be able to achieved anything inside gambling so better to treat it as part of entertainment and use only a spare budget amount to fill that enjoyment.

Though there are some who still dreaming of one-hit fortune that kind of mindsets will lead them to lose more, as aggressions after losing will push them to keep betting and adding more money in their bankroll.

From my experience on casinos promos is not based on many times you loses but promo is based on your frequent staking that is the highly amount you stake the highly promos you can get from casinos and i think that this strategy is similar to others betting games, and when it comes to any betting, I understood that all sports betting share common goals which they mean they are interrelated in one ways the other, so it is now left for the gamblers to choose which bet is best suitable for him to stake.

Without an addict being willing to change, they can not get help, though they might not be entirely able to change on their own but the very important thing is to seek that change on their own first because like you have said, it is desperation of gambling profits that makes players get addicted and when they become addicted, they should be able to realize it and seek for help if they really want to. I assume that a gambler should know it already if they are getting addicted.

That is why it is very important for a gambler who has become heavily addicted to gambling to realize his own misfortune, looking at his lies to his loved ones and his large financial debts. And only after that can the point of his healing begin.

That is why many clinics that try to cure gambling addicts are powerless, because relatives bring them an addicted gambler who himself has not realized that he wants to get rid of the addiction, and he will pretend as if he wants to change his life, but immediately after leaving such a clinic, he will go to gamble.

This problem is enormous when there is not much left to do, because the person can become aware when they have a very Advanced addiction and must Undergo more difficult Treatments, with Psychologists, sleep cures, do a tremendous day of strong detoxification, to see how the Treatment reacts, it is not easy really, they have to do a lot of their part to be able to Cure themselves.

This is the same as asking - do casinos target their most profitable players in order to squeeze more out of them? The answer seems obvious: yes. They can spend a lot of money attracting new players, some might simply play a few games then disappear forever, others might become casual weekend gamers but the golden goose are the ones that will drop every single cent that they get into the site once they've built a habit up. It is the small minority of players that you'll find generate a huge chunk of casino and bookmaker earnings because it consumes their lives. Frankly I believe in free will, that everyone controls their destiny and has the power to change direction in their life but they have to get a grip if they stumble into something like addiction. They're free to stop at any time, but must take the solid actions to do so - sacrificing short term pain for long term freedom.

You made a point but psychology says that if you fail to identify the problem you fail to solve it already hence all the works can be put in yet abound to fail because one hasn't gone to the root cause of the problem and solve it, if you became and addict because you have some family problem the therapist have to solve that first before your addiction but they do go straight to the gambling addiction and that leads to the treatments not working.

And then casinos on their end knowing fully well how vulnerable people can be with games they do send notifications on promos and other interesting messages to users who have signed up either through mails or direct messages luring them to keep gambling.

In some cases, the addict does need help and asks for it The difficult thing is when the person is addicted and does not accept it, then it is even more dangerous At least the one who Seeks help is clear that he needs other people, but the one who does not accept it believes that he is doing Everything right and that is when he becomes most decapitalized and the problems are going to be much Greater.

You are actually right, and I agree with what you said that's the most difficult thing, and addicted person denying, that's he or she clearly doesn't want help from anyone. When an addicted gambler, doesn't realize they are loosing it and making a mistake and refusing help from people and they can actually go down financially, mentally ad emotionally.

How would the casino knows from behind the curtains that a particular gambler is a vulnerable gambler just because he is losing in his gambling more often than he is winning to make profit. Just because we are losing may not entail that we're vulnerable right? Because there are gamblers that gamble for fun and don't mind how much and many times  they've being losing. It is for this that the casino must have to allot to every of his active gambling customers bonuses they deserve as rakebacks either weekly or monthly to make them feel the casino recognises their gambling time in their platform.

Yes, I think that casino platforms target those who gamble a lot, those who are more risky. Especially when a gambler bets and deposits money into their account frequently, they target them more. When a risky user gambles, if they lose money, they get back their money and deposit again, and they lose, they get a mental breakdown. Basically, casino platforms target those addictive gamblers more, and for those who cannot control themselves, gambling is definitely risky.

I'm almost certain this is true, as many casinos compile player databases to better track player activity, including their favorite games, betting frequency, and bet size relative to their deposit. All this allows for a clear understanding of which promotions and bonuses to offer to specific players. I've also seen cases where casinos hire third-party organizations to call players by phone to ask why they've stopped playing, and so on, in order to offer a great bonus just to get them back into the game. Some may consider this normal, but I consider it unethical, as the player may be struggling with addiction, and the call could act as a trigger for gambling.

Yup, without admissions it can create deeper engagement especially if the person don't want to admit that they already suffering, it's much better to seek help and have that self will to have the proper adjustment helping yourself out. Else, if you keep denying you may keep doing same mistake and that engagements will keep going deeper and you'll become addicted.

Gambling is a business and the more engagement the gambler seek on, the better for the revenue, though not directly but it will keep the business alive that's why they need those types of gamblers.

Is that actually a thing? I have never seen such a thing happening to me or anyone close to me, if that is true, then indeed it would be unethical if the gambler has let the casino know they are struggling with gambling addiction, for example through self-exclusion. Casinos are businesses so it makes perfect sense they want their gamblers to come back of they have not played for a long time, but I believe the reason for someone to quit gambling or stop for a time matters.

Although not all players would accept such offers or calls, the probability of this practise appears very close, as the gambling industry is invested in ensuring that players do not disappear. I would rather consider it a way of exploitation on human weaknesses because one may not quit just because he is bored but that he wants to save himself the hassle of becoming an addict. We can guess how shaky such a decision can be when they are called once again. When such a situation occurs, I do not believe that it would be only business ethics that would matter, but it would be the attitude to human value within. We are not addressing a case of usual customers that can receive some discounts, but of people who might be facing their own health issues.

It's normal for people to refuse or refuse help from others, such as those closest to them. I believe that people addicted to gambling tend to become more stubborn. They're likely to cling to their principles of winning big, leading them to neglect other things, even if they're actually beneficial.
People like this rarely achieve success; most of them experience a sad ending, and this is a reality in many of the cases we encounter.

That's what am saying, the ability of an addict to seek for help means that they have realized the mess that they are into and wants to seek for change and if they get the right help, they can change because they already have the will power to change and become a non gambler or a responsible gambler but for people that doesn't even admit that they are addicted, they can not be helped because it's going to be a waste of time.

Sometimes the casino is not to blame for the players' vulnerability, casinos simply offer the service of having fun games and with the option to multiply it, but it is not easy, it must be Remembered that the casino is an industry, a company, a business where they must also have profits , otherwise it would be an NGO, so these types of things must be matured first.