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Title: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: peter0425 on August 05, 2025, 10:46:51 AM
Let's face it. AI is not going anywhere. We keep saying that it will develop soon enough to become dangerous to the people but there is no way of stopping it. Trying to stop innovation would be counterproductive. Instead, why don't we think about how to work our way around AI instead? How can we still contribute to the economy even with the existence of AI?

First of all, not all jobs can and will be taken by AI. There would still be jobs that would require actual human labor. Social workers or those who have to interact and communicate with people would not be replaced by AI. Do not think that you would be talking to your therapist and it is AI. AI may be something you can "talk" to but it does not have the emotional depth a person has. You may want to consider this field.

Even though it has been made easy trying to make a piece of art, nothing still beats the way a human can express their creativity through different forms of art. AI art right now still looks too much like AI. Robot generated with no actual story and meaning unlike art made by human. Health workers and lawyers are less likely to be replaced by AI. Carpenters, technicians and etc are also jobs AI can't replace just yet. Even if we are old, it will not hurt to learn new things in new industries.


AI will not only be taking away jobs, it will also generate new ones. AI does not function on its own. It is made by humans also to replicate what other humans has already done to create something a human has asked of it. Software engineers are going to be needed if more companies are wishing to put out AI. So, even though the rate of which AI is booming may be concerning.... not all hope is lost.

There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Rruchi man on August 05, 2025, 12:40:53 PM
There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.
Truthfully there will always be a space for humans in the existence of technology; the concern, however, for most persons is that the space for humans will be greatly reduced. And if the space for humans is reduced, we will have more of those persons involved in other activities to still find a way to survive. So the fear is that they do not turn to crime. On the good side of things, AI (artificial intelligence) will only take out those individuals who've refused to embrace this new change and adapt to it. Currently they're service providers and freelancers who leverage the technology behind artificial intelligence to make their research work more efficient. They've not allowed artificial intelligence to do all the jobs, but rather, they have artificial intelligence now as personal assistants to make some tasks easier to achieve. That is good use of technology, and such persons will remain indispensable in their fields.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: DeathAngel on August 06, 2025, 01:25:21 PM
Of course there will always be a space for humans in society. There are lots of things AI can not do, although with life like robots incorporating AI are becoming closer & closer to reality, but that’s another story. For now though human beings can use AI to help. We can both coexist together, for now.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: YOSHIE on August 06, 2025, 01:45:47 PM
How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
If we talk about artificial intelligence (AI) and economic development, of course we will not forget the function of the Navy itself and its creator, for me Al is a tool, system or machine that must be helped by human intelligence is commonly known.

For this reason, it can be for economic growth but it will happen through the development of technology, the meaning of technological development is quite extensive Look at this time, such as innovation, productivity and so on, of course the presence of Al if it is well utilized can create a good economy globally, as long as you don't use it wrong for negative purposes.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: WillyAp on August 06, 2025, 02:08:49 PM
You guys are living in a bubble.

While the industry applies critical thinking investors are governed by hope.

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Boston Consulting Group took a look at how companies across the globe are using AI, and found that one in three plans to invest at least $25 million in upgrading technology this year. However, only about 25% are already seeing ROI. I talked to BCG Global Leader of Tech and Digital Advantage Vladimir Lukic about the reasons behind that. An excerpt from our conversation is later in this newsletter.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/cio/2025/01/30/why-75-of-businesses-arent-seeing-roi-from-ai-yet/
The underlying investigation:  https://www.bcg.com/publications/2025/closing-the-ai-impact-gap

The largest issue I found is that many Corps lack a controlling factor in their intents to make it work.
Look at the search engines under AI. They confuse languages, search terms and worse they interpret your very search query. Did you mean?
So a search for websites ends up with some results over care taking. 
If you happen to use a newer domain extension you might be pushed into the spam corner, your pages get ripped off the index no matter what.
Meta deleted 30k groups under some windy argument. AI at work.
As the internet is the teacher, the internet is mostly a blender, so is the AI.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Felicity_Tide on August 06, 2025, 04:31:34 PM
~snip

First of all, not all jobs can and will be taken by AI. There would still be jobs that would require actual human labor.

I have always being of the opinion that AI was never meant to take away jobs. Maybe I might have the opposite mindset few years back, but I guess I don't now. Why is that?, just like you pointed out, there is a place for interaction, and we as humans have that conscious minds that the same AI don't have. The thing is, AI has its positive and negative sides, but it varies from person to person. There are a very few that uses it far more efficiently, especially in their jobs. While a very large number depends heavily on it, which isn't a very good side from the aspect of we as humans.

Work will always be available. How we navigate matters alot. Let's not forget that certain group of people created so many of these AI tools, but it is not a threat to their own job, so I don't think that it should be a treat to others except we depend on it heavily.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: justinlamode on August 06, 2025, 04:53:28 PM
AI will not only be taking away jobs, it will also generate new ones. AI does not function on its own. It is made by humans also to replicate what other humans has already done to create something a human has asked of it. Software engineers are going to be needed if more companies are wishing to put out AI. So, even though the rate of which AI is booming may be concerning.... not all hope is lost.

There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.
When they say that AI will take away jobs, they are not saying that there will not be humans in the system entirely rather it means that the number of humans needed to do certain jobs will be greatly reduced as most of the processes will be automated through AI. You will see companies q and thereby making more profits since their system will still run effectively even with less humans in service.

On the other hand, AI will create new jobs and businesses as it is happening already in the faceless YouTube where people are making money from videos generated through AI. But despite these new areas of businesses, there will be net decline in jobs due to AI.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Webetcoins on August 06, 2025, 05:11:23 PM
I do not believe it would be "dangerous" if we can limit access to be fair, but it's already quite opensource so I am pretty sure it is at the hands of everyone.

However, making it as illegal as it gets, aside from just whoever has the access, would still lower the chance of people who use it.

But I am not one of those people who think it will be dangerous, let everyone use it, it could be annoying or bothersome, but not dangerous, there are nations who are killing each other in thousands at the moment, I doubt AI would be that dangerous.

You need to invest into companies who do work with AI in industries, that's how you grow. Medicine world but with AI? Put a billion in. Footballing world but with AI scouting? Put 50 mill in. Want best tutoring for certain skills with AI? Put in 100 mill. Nations can do that and suddenly have some insanely growing company who makes billions from other nations, so you put in money, but make more in the future thanks to it.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Jewan420 on August 06, 2025, 05:45:35 PM
I do not yet consider AI dangerous in economic development and industrial revolution. However, in real life, the negative side of AI affects me more. AI is taking away the jobs of those who are not able to upgrade themselves in line with the times or adapt to AI. Although it is possible to produce faster and do more work in less time, it is reducing human skills. It is directly affecting human skills and making people inefficient or lazy in a task.
Currently, AI is taking away the jobs of a graphic designer, coder and various freelancers or forcing them to be dependent on AI. This is basically reducing their skills and discouraging a newcomer from acquiring those skills. Now you only have to acquire skills on AI.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: eightdots on August 06, 2025, 06:06:07 PM
I do not yet consider AI dangerous in economic development and industrial revolution. However, in real life, the negative side of AI affects me more. AI is taking away the jobs of those who are not able to upgrade themselves in line with the times or adapt to AI. Although it is possible to produce faster and do more work in less time, it is reducing human skills. It is directly affecting human skills and making people inefficient or lazy in a task.
Currently, AI is taking away the jobs of a graphic designer, coder and various freelancers or forcing them to be dependent on AI. This is basically reducing their skills and discouraging a newcomer from acquiring those skills. Now you only have to acquire skills on AI.

A development like artificial intelligence has had both positive and negative impacts on many businesses. Artificial intelligence has made many things easier, but it has also eliminated the effort required for many people to research and access information. This may be a positive or negative development. In fact, depending on the intended use of artificial intelligence, one could argue that it's either positive or negative.

Artificial intelligence has brought many advantages, and people are taking advantage of it. Of course, it also has its downsides. Depending on users' intended use, AI can be beneficial or negative.

Artificial intelligence is a development that directly impacts the economy because it impacts many areas of business. Some jobs should be integrated with AI, or many new job fields may emerge thanks to AI.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Fiatless on August 06, 2025, 06:22:01 PM
The title of the thread is "How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI" and the body of the work is discussing how AI cannot replace humans in the workplace.

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How can we still contribute to the economy even with the existence of AI?
We have to lean how to integrate AI with our work task to make it easier, cheaper and productive. Just like every technological tools, AI is designed to assist man in his workplace. AI will not replace man but every worker would have to apply it to become relevant in the workplace.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Fortify on August 06, 2025, 08:22:33 PM
Let's face it. AI is not going anywhere. We keep saying that it will develop soon enough to become dangerous to the people but there is no way of stopping it. Trying to stop innovation would be counterproductive. Instead, why don't we think about how to work our way around AI instead? How can we still contribute to the economy even with the existence of AI?

First of all, not all jobs can and will be taken by AI. There would still be jobs that would require actual human labor. Social workers or those who have to interact and communicate with people would not be replaced by AI. Do not think that you would be talking to your therapist and it is AI. AI may be something you can "talk" to but it does not have the emotional depth a person has. You may want to consider this field.

Even though it has been made easy trying to make a piece of art, nothing still beats the way a human can express their creativity through different forms of art. AI art right now still looks too much like AI. Robot generated with no actual story and meaning unlike art made by human. Health workers and lawyers are less likely to be replaced by AI. Carpenters, technicians and etc are also jobs AI can't replace just yet. Even if we are old, it will not hurt to learn new things in new industries.


AI will not only be taking away jobs, it will also generate new ones. AI does not function on its own. It is made by humans also to replicate what other humans has already done to create something a human has asked of it. Software engineers are going to be needed if more companies are wishing to put out AI. So, even though the rate of which AI is booming may be concerning.... not all hope is lost.

There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.

In my limited experience with AI, it definitely has some uses and it will evolve to be better over time, but I've seen it throw out so many errors if you already know what it's meant to give you. There are certain jobs in the economy that look least vulnerable to AI - cleaners, truck drivers, dishwashers, roofers, etc. so people will adapt and there will be opportunities elsewhere. It's going to require a bit of rewiring of society and our approach to work if there less jobs even necessary in future and things like universal income might actually start to take place. If we are able to automate and have robotics eventually do many more things for us than today, we might actually have more leisure time and the people who want to work hard have that option.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Jegileman on August 06, 2025, 08:48:11 PM
First of all, not all jobs can and will be taken by AI. There would still be jobs that would require actual human labor. Social workers or those who have to interact and communicate with people would not be replaced by AI. Do not think that you would be talking to your therapist and it is AI. AI may be something you can "talk" to but it does not have the emotional depth a person has. You may want to consider this field.

I recalled a story that was on the internet one time on how a child was using an AI and was given a prompt by the AI to hurt himself or maybe even lead to his death. I don’t know how that story actually went against but those are one of the disadvantages of AI when not used the right way and kids having access to it without the AI knowing that kids are prone to some advise that if an elder doesn’t guide them, they might do the wrong thing and affect them. Of this kid would have communicated with human, he would not have been hurt or face any negative impacts from the directives of the AI which the parents left to him to access without considering the implications of it.

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Even though it has been made easy trying to make a piece of art, nothing still beats the way a human can express their creativity through different forms of art. AI art right now still looks too much like AI. Robot generated with no actual story and meaning unlike art made by human. Health workers and lawyers are less likely to be replaced by AI. Carpenters, technicians and etc are also jobs AI can't replace just yet. Even if we are old, it will not hurt to learn new things in new industries.

AI cannot completely replace humans and till date there is still many things humans are actively doing that AI cannot replace so soon. Talking about physical works that requires physical application of energy to get it worked out, humans are still the one that can do it. No matter how good an AI is, it can only give directives on how to make it better but can’t replaced humans.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Davidvictorson on August 06, 2025, 11:14:19 PM
In all of these conversations of about AI taking over jobs, I think that most people who do not understand try to spread false information. AI will make jobs more efficient and people become more productive if they learn how to work collaboratively with AI in their work. And even on this AI discussion, new jobs are being created as a result of AI. What people have to do is to now improve on their skills to be able to use AI created jobs. And they are even having better pay than the other regular traditional jobs because only few people are in it at this time and they are highly sort after.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: alegotardo on August 07, 2025, 02:08:07 AM
I completely agree with you... AI won't disappear and its impossible to stop yours advances.

But I think you're arguing the wrong point because the question isnt only which jobs will survive, but more importantly: how will people adapt and interact with it?

This issue of change is historical... in every major technological revolution, there always are jobs eliminated and others created. Don't see this change of jobs as something so important just because it's the first time you've faced it (I'm sorry, but I believe you're young).

Anyway... the difference now with AI is the speed at which change is occurring, because those who dont manage to update themselves in time will feel a much greater impact than in the past revolutions, when people had time to learn something new or/and adapt.

I think the best way out of this revolution will be hybrid professions, where humans will use AI as a tool to increase your self productivity... Human intelligence and creativity will never be replaced, so let's focus on this to guide the hard work that will be done by AI.

Blessed is he who can learn to guide an AI instead of trying to compete against it.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: d5000 on August 07, 2025, 04:59:35 AM
Do not think that you would be talking to your therapist and it is AI.
This example is really funny, as one of the first chatbots, Eliza (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA), was modeled after a therapist. That was in 1967 ...

Of course this was a quite simple bot, but it is said that people had fun with it and some already did use it to feel better (not really therapy but to have a heart-warming conversation). Now in the 2020s, people are using chatbots like ChatGPT to ask for help if they are depressed. So exactly that "therapist" function is in my opinion a quite interesting AI application.

Even though it has been made easy trying to make a piece of art, nothing still beats the way a human can express their creativity through different forms of art.
Where AI already is quite good is at "decorative" and "applied" art. You need an infographic in the style of a nice impressionist painting? AI can already do that. Thus things like graphic design is definitely being affected.

Health workers and lawyers are less likely to be replaced by AI. Carpenters, technicians and etc are also jobs AI can't replace just yet.
For lawyers, language models can reduce their workload a lot, they can spit out a summary of all laws affected by a certain legal dispute, and thus they would have a similar effect than on other office workers.

Regarding health, there are a lot of machines developed for care jobs currently (e.g. robots that can assist elderly people to stand up and go to the bathroom), and AI can help them to optimize their movements. So I basically think there are very few jobs which aren't affected at all.



I would like to re-frame the discussion about the AI "danger" a bit. AI does not take away jobs, It takes away labour, i.e. certain tasks, so you need less hours to create a product. This means productivity is increased.

To say it in other words (oversimplified): Instead of firing 50% of their employees, a company could teach them to use AI, and then reducing their work by 50% -- but as they would be able to do the same tasks in that time, they could be paid only a slightly lower wage. (Of course today's AI only in a few case is able to double productivity, I think most of the time we're talking about 10%-20%, but that could be higher in a few years.)

Of course this has some macro effects (e.g. it could reduce prices of certain goods) and these effects would probably lead to a more significant wage reduction in the end. But the employees would have more time, they could take some new jobs offered thanks to AI. Or as they are much more productive now, they could do some lower-productivity work they like (e.g. art) where they don't earn that much money.

Basically "AI" is just another machine boosting our productivity. Like all machines since windmills (or earlier tech). It is a quite powerful one, though; I'd compare its importance with the first digital revolution (1970s/80s).


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: mindrust on August 07, 2025, 05:13:15 AM
They said the same thing for bitcoin. Some still say it.

“Bitcoin will kill banks. Soon legacy banking will be no more, btc will take over.”

“Btc will kill payments processors! Visa/Mc employees will get fired!”

Etc.

None of that happened and it doesn’t look like it will hallen any time soon. So when people say the same thing for AI, I am kind of cautious.

I don’t believe AI can kill that many jobs. It might kill some of them eventually but they were about to die probably anyway.

In the end AI is just a new tool which people can study and earn from it. Just like btc once was new and people w afraid of it too.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: MArsland on August 07, 2025, 06:01:08 AM
I understand if AI is seen as a threat because it could make workers' jobs easier. However we cannot simply avoid it, because fundamentally AI is a tool no matter how advanced it is in handling various tasks, ultimately humans are the ones who control it. Unless you've watched too many movies about robots taking over the world, you'll always see AI as the greatest threat. So yes, humans will always have a place in this world and no one can deny that.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: fruktik on August 07, 2025, 06:55:36 AM
Do you know what AI doesn't have? Emotions that are inherent to people. For example, it could be compassion, empathy, and so on. When people communicate, this radically changes the situation. Can AI do that? The question is rhetorical. Therefore, not everything is subject to this technology. And there is also no soul and self-awareness. Regarding the latter, I would not rush to conclusions. It is quite possible that in the near future it will reach this point. Is this dangerous? Of course. Just like heads of state with nuclear weapons.

Just recently watched a film where the main character started talking about the paper clip theory. What are you talking about? If you give AI the ultimate goal of producing paper clips, this will lead to the destruction of humanity, since all resources will be thrown at this, and a person will only become an obstacle on the way to achieving the result.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: shinratensei_ on August 07, 2025, 07:39:34 AM
AI will not only be taking away jobs, it will also generate new ones. AI does not function on its own. It is made by humans also to replicate what other humans has already done to create something a human has asked of it. Software engineers are going to be needed if more companies are wishing to put out AI. So, even though the rate of
AI are already replacing junior developers position, only AI researcher are getting all the jobs, see how meta are paying high amount for those AI researcher while companies are laying off junior engineers.
Even if AI can create new job opportunity, it will be significantly less than the job it replaced. I'm not a luddite and I embrace AI but acknowledging the fact that AI does indeed taking a lot of people's job can go a long way.

As for the capability of AI, we're still on early phase. Just wait for AGI and you will see it can replace much more job than you can imagine. World will be changed significantly by then.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Obulis on August 07, 2025, 08:04:18 AM
There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.
Truthfully there will always be a space for humans in the existence of technology; the concern, however, for most persons is that the space for humans will be greatly reduced. And if the space for humans is reduced, we will have more of those persons involved in other activities to still find a way to survive. So the fear is that they do not turn to crime. On the good side of things, AI (artificial intelligence) will only take out those individuals who've refused to embrace this new change and adapt to it. Currently they're service providers and freelancers who leverage the technology behind artificial intelligence to make their research work more efficient. They've not allowed artificial intelligence to do all the jobs, but rather, they have artificial intelligence now as personal assistants to make some tasks easier to achieve. That is good use of technology, and such persons will remain indispensable in their fields.

   The development of AI is already looking unstoppable, and instead of attempting to stop it, the emphasis should be on adapting it alongside. Already some jobs are fully automatic and many might also become automated in the nearest future, but there will always be human beings..
 The arts, healthcare, and social work are few areas that still needs US ALL!!!.
   For real, AI has created opportunities and will create new opportunities, like in software engineering, where human oversight and development are crucial.
  The input factors is to stay adaptable, continuously learning to find ways to contribute in a world where humans and AI coexist.

Not to forget!! Every advent of new technology has always carried pressure and tension yet humanity remains, AI advent cannot be different from other technologies....
 


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: talksocially on August 07, 2025, 12:48:22 PM
AI will not only be taking away jobs, it will also generate new ones. AI does not function on its own. It is made by humans also to replicate what other humans has already done to create something a human has asked of it. Software engineers are going to be needed if more companies are wishing to put out AI. So, even though the rate of
AI are already replacing junior developers position, only AI researcher are getting all the jobs, see how meta are paying high amount for those AI researcher while companies are laying off junior engineers.
Even if AI can create new job opportunity, it will be significantly less than the job it replaced. I'm not a luddite and I embrace AI but acknowledging the fact that AI does indeed taking a lot of people's job can go a long way.

As for the capability of AI, we're still on early phase. Just wait for AGI and you will see it can replace much more job than you can imagine. World will be changed significantly by then.


You're absolutely right—AI is reshaping the workforce in real time. While it creates new roles, especially in research and advanced development, the number of jobs replaced (especially entry-level ones) may far outweigh those created. The shift isn't just about job loss, but about job transformation—and not everyone will transition smoothly.

We recently discussed this evolving landscape on TalkSocially (https://talksocially.com), especially how workers and businesses can adapt to stay relevant in the AI-driven economy.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: WillyAp on August 07, 2025, 12:56:34 PM

For lawyers, language models can reduce their workload a lot, they can spit out a summary of all laws affected by a certain legal dispute, and thus they would have a similar effect than on other office workers.

Some might remember:

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Humiliated lawyers fined $5,000 for submitting ChatGPT hallucinations in court: ‘I heard about this new site, which I falsely assumed was, like, a super search engine’

https://fortune.com/2023/06/23/lawyers-fined-filing-chatgpt-hallucinations-in-court/

Similar to medicine who know what those LLM invent and what is correct. Checking will be challenging.
New professions, Fact checker, people just laid off at meta.  



Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: uneng on August 07, 2025, 02:54:18 PM
Actually, be thankful if AI replaces humans at jobs, because only a minority wants to work these days. It's quite stressful and annoying to hire a service or to go out to a restaurant or fast food to receive a nasty and rude treatment by the attendant, due to them not being satisfied with their job. It's not the customer's fault, but it's the customer who receives their rage. So it's already time for AI to take place.

Services like cleaning can be already executed by AIs, automatons. It's a win-win situation: people who don't want to work won't have to work anymore, and people who hire services can have a pleasant and satisfied employee working for them.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: jackpotmaster on August 07, 2025, 03:21:28 PM
Let's face it. AI is not going anywhere.
Let's face it, what you call an AI is just an advanced algorithm. It is a big hype with a new marketing term. Whether we will have real artificial intelligence or not, nobody knows. It could be 5 years away but also 500.

First of all, not all jobs can and will be taken by AI. There would still be jobs that would require actual human labor. Social workers or those who have to interact and communicate with people would not be replaced by AI. Do not think that you would be talking to your therapist and it is AI. AI may be something you can "talk" to but it does not have the emotional depth a person has. You may want to consider this field.
Advanced robotics + advanced algorithm does not equal AI. There is massive change through automation, but stop talking about this nonsense AI. We do not have AI. We are not even close to AI.

Actually, be thankful if AI replaces humans at jobs, because only a minority wants to work these days. It's quite stressful and annoying to hire a service or to go out to a restaurant or fast food to receive a nasty and rude treatment by the attendant, due to them not being satisfied with their job. It's not the customer's fault, but it's the customer who receives their rage. So it's already time for AI to take place.

Services like cleaning can be already executed by AIs, automatons. It's a win-win situation: people who don't want to work won't have to work anymore, and people who hire services can have a pleasant and satisfied employee working for them.
And the people who don't work should be rewarded for being lazy? Genius idea, it totally will work out fine. Have you never seen an experiment what happens to monkeys when you give them access to massive amount of food without any effort?


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Moreno233 on August 07, 2025, 03:49:59 PM
The title of the thread is "How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI" and the body of the work is discussing how AI cannot replace humans in the workplace.
I think the OP have diverted the post a little by subtly introducing some contradictions between the title and the body of the post. From the title, the post is supposed to be how to integrate AI into businesses for better productivity but the body of the post is another argument of AI taking away the jobs. AI will not take away the jobs, it will just be one fine addition for greater efficiency in the entire deliverables.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: uneng on August 07, 2025, 04:19:32 PM
And the people who don't work should be rewarded for being lazy? Genius idea, it totally will work out fine. Have you never seen an experiment what happens to monkeys when you give them access to massive amount of food without any effort?
Well, as far as I know people who don't work are already rewarded somehow these days. They make a small income from government's welfare programs, so it's likely it will remain like this in a future where AIs/robots will do most of the work and effort for society.

I don't know what it's going to happen with those people, because it really depends on their free will. It's up to them to decide what to do with their spare time. Some end falling for addictions, noxious behavioral patterns, while others may use it for enlightening purposes, like spending quality time with each other and nature, studying, developing themselves and pushing society to the next level.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: jackpotmaster on August 07, 2025, 04:45:27 PM
And the people who don't work should be rewarded for being lazy? Genius idea, it totally will work out fine. Have you never seen an experiment what happens to monkeys when you give them access to massive amount of food without any effort?
Well, as far as I know people who don't work are already rewarded somehow these days. They make a small income from government's welfare programs, so it's likely it will remain like this in a future where AIs/robots will do most of the work and effort for society.
Most of those people are fat, sick or both. They don't engage in any healthy behaviors, and it is not because of a lack of access to doctors or information. Therefore, giving them more money would only create a bigger problem.

I don't know what it's going to happen with those people, because it really depends on their free will. It's up to them to decide what to do with their spare time. Some end falling for addictions, noxious behavioral patterns, while others may use it for enlightening purposes, like spending quality time with each other and nature, studying, developing themselves and pushing society to the next level.
Most people can't live in a healthy way without work given to them, that's exactly what I am telling you. Doing something like this that will knowingly make the population sicker both physically and mentally is a mistake.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: rachael9385 on August 07, 2025, 05:39:04 PM
Let's face it. AI is not going anywhere. We keep saying that it will develop soon enough to become dangerous to the people but there is no way of stopping it. Trying to stop innovation would be counterproductive. Instead, why don't we think about how to work our way around AI instead? How can we still contribute to the economy even with the existence of AI?

First of all, not all jobs can and will be taken by AI. There would still be jobs that would require actual human labor. Social workers or those who have to interact and communicate with people would not be replaced by AI. Do not think that you would be talking to your therapist and it is AI. AI may be something you can "talk" to but it does not have the emotional depth a person has. You may want to consider this field.

Even though it has been made easy trying to make a piece of art, nothing still beats the way a human can express their creativity through different forms of art. AI art right now still looks too much like AI. Robot generated with no actual story and meaning unlike art made by human. Health workers and lawyers are less likely to be replaced by AI. Carpenters, technicians and etc are also jobs AI can't replace just yet. Even if we are old, it will not hurt to learn new things in new industries.


AI will not only be taking away jobs, it will also generate new ones. AI does not function on its own. It is made by humans also to replicate what other humans has already done to create something a human has asked of it. Software engineers are going to be needed if more companies are wishing to put out AI. So, even though the rate of which AI is booming may be concerning.... not all hope is lost.

There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.

People talk about how Ai can turn against humanity but I think that it's just a conspiracy theory, the creators are humans so that isn't really an accurate thing to predict. Ai is now making life easier and it's fetching people a lot of money on the internet. People make video clips with ai and do a lot of lucrative things with it. It can be used to your advantage only if you are smart enough to make proper use of it


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: r_victory on August 08, 2025, 12:38:42 AM
One of the best ways to contribute to the economy in the AI era is to learn to collaborate with it. With the new technology, a demand for professionals skilled in its roles has been generated. Professions like Prompt Engineering and AI Automation Consultants have emerged in this new wave. Just learn and ride it…


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: el kaka22 on August 08, 2025, 05:08:23 AM
Instead of being the person whose job is taken by the AI, become the person who uses AI to make it work. That would allow you to be a lot more income oriented and you can do a better job. I have already seen some people started using AI heavily to create social media accounts, they do videos, and what not, using AI, and they do captions, and basically all around use AI to make it work.

So do not be afraid to give it a try, I am sure that you are going to end up with a lot better result, it should not be that complicated, because AI is used by so many people now, and it's a very good thing to make money from. If you can be careful, then I am sure that you are going to be able to use it as well, shouldn't be a problem.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: abhiseshakana on August 08, 2025, 07:57:49 AM
One of the best ways to contribute to the economy in the AI era is to learn to collaborate with it. With the new technology, a demand for professionals skilled in its roles has been generated. Professions like Prompt Engineering and AI Automation Consultants have emerged in this new wave. Just learn and ride it…

The explosion of interest in and access to information technology and AI, the current trend, will inevitably lead to a surplus of technology workers. Many people are learning coding and AI because access is increasingly easy; many countries are even encouraging coding curriculums starting at elementary school. Many are only learning superficially or "following the trend," not all of them reaching an advanced or industry-ready level.

In the future, there could be a surplus (low-skilled or entry-level) due to the oversupply of graduates with similar skills. Mid- to high-skilled skills, such as AI ethics, cloud engineering, machine learning ops, and cybersecurity, are still in dire need. So, there will be a large number of people who can code, but the market only needs those who are truly skilled, adaptable, and specialized.

Job demand will remain high, but there will be a shift. AI itself will automate many jobs, including those in the technology sector, and new roles will emerge. Ultimately, those who survive will be those who are adaptive, continuously learning, and possess combined advantages, for example, understanding AI and agriculture, becoming an AI agri-expert. So, a quantity surplus is certain, but not a quality surplus.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: shield132 on August 08, 2025, 08:57:59 AM
Let's face it. AI is not going anywhere. We keep saying that it will develop soon enough to become dangerous to the people but there is no way of stopping it. Trying to stop innovation would be counterproductive. Instead, why don't we think about how to work our way around AI instead? How can we still contribute to the economy even with the existence of AI?

First of all, not all jobs can and will be taken by AI. There would still be jobs that would require actual human labor. Social workers or those who have to interact and communicate with people would not be replaced by AI. Do not think that you would be talking to your therapist and it is AI. AI may be something you can "talk" to but it does not have the emotional depth a person has. You may want to consider this field.

Even though it has been made easy trying to make a piece of art, nothing still beats the way a human can express their creativity through different forms of art. AI art right now still looks too much like AI. Robot generated with no actual story and meaning unlike art made by human. Health workers and lawyers are less likely to be replaced by AI. Carpenters, technicians and etc are also jobs AI can't replace just yet. Even if we are old, it will not hurt to learn new things in new industries.


AI will not only be taking away jobs, it will also generate new ones. AI does not function on its own. It is made by humans also to replicate what other humans has already done to create something a human has asked of it. Software engineers are going to be needed if more companies are wishing to put out AI. So, even though the rate of which AI is booming may be concerning.... not all hope is lost.

There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.
Many jobs that you describe will soon be replaced by AI. AI can easily replace customer support, therapists also in the future, when its emotional understanding will improve because its advanced reasoning is very good. Google Veo is very good at generating realistic videos and in a few years, I believe that it will replace photography and filmography. It will also soon replace UI/UX designers, front-end and back-end developers. It doesn't mean that everyone in this profession will be jobless but there will be only a few humans instead of 100 or 1000 developers and with the help of AI, they'll maintain the software.
The only niche where I believe that AI will not replace humans anytime soon is trades. I can't imagine a plumber AI robot. I believe that trades will become the highest-paid professions.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: retreat on August 08, 2025, 02:01:50 PM
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AI will not only be taking away jobs, it will also generate new ones. AI does not function on its own. It is made by humans also to replicate what other humans has already done to create something a human has asked of it. Software engineers are going to be needed if more companies are wishing to put out AI. So, even though the rate of which AI is booming may be concerning.... not all hope is lost.

There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.

It's important to emphasize that while AI will replace many jobs, especially repetitive ones, opportunities will always exist for those willing to put in the effort. The key lies in a person’s willingness to adapt and continuously learn, rather than clinging to outdated methods. In today's rapidly changing world, the ability to think critically, innovate, and develop new skills is a valuable asset.. especially for those looking to enter emerging fields such as blockchain, AI, and others, these opportunities will be even greater for them as these technologies continue to evolve and the demand for skilled personnel in these areas continues to grow. Therefore, pessimistic people will be left behind if they continue to see change as a threat rather than an opportunity, while for those who are optimistic, opportunities will always be within reach.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Zigabel on August 08, 2025, 02:46:56 PM
Everything OP has said is very much on point, many persons have been instilled with the fear of AI taking over every of the sectors where human work and bringing threats to many human jobs but these people fail to understand that AI is and was programmed by humans, AI will always be subjected to human control because it depends mostly on the information humans have made available over the years so there's no information AI actually generates on its own except that which humans has supplied it


With technical jobs thet requires manual labour, AI cannot be a better substitute and even for soft skills where it seem like AI can take over, in the actual sense, AI does makes the work easier and reduces the number of persons needed to carry out the task but not that it completely takes out the human presence from the whole scene because humans as actually the master planners AI cannot do without.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Pablo-wood on August 08, 2025, 04:51:19 PM
Actually, be thankful if AI replaces humans at jobs, because only a minority wants to work these days. It's quite stressful and annoying to hire a service or to go out to a restaurant or fast food to receive a nasty and rude treatment by the attendant, due to them not being satisfied with their job. It's not the customer's fault, but it's the customer who receives their rage. So it's already time for AI to take place.
Al might handle the kitchen duties and serving but humans will still be needed for hospitality, emotional intelligence, and adaptability. I feel AI  will modify job description other than replace them. No matter how advanced AI becomes, that human interaction shared at various sectors of the economy will always be needed. So instead of total replacement, we’ll see role transformation  where workers become more like AI supervisors or prompt engineers guiding intelligent systems


AI still needs human input. Without clear, relevant, and ethical prompts or configurations, AI could misfire or deliver poor results. Meaning people who understand how to interact with AI systems will become increasingly valuable.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: d5000 on August 08, 2025, 07:08:41 PM
https://fortune.com/2023/06/23/lawyers-fined-filing-chatgpt-hallucinations-in-court/
Of course lawyers should not use ChatGPT :)

There are several firms instead developing specialized models for the legal services industry. And I think such a tool, if it can reference the sources, is not that difficult to implement in a way no hallucinations are possible.

Similar to medicine who know what those LLM invent and what is correct. Checking will be challenging.
There is progress with this too, as the hallucination problem is known for several years. I think the way sources are linked in current LLMs even for "mainstream" chatbots like Gemini is already a significant progress from the 2022/23 era chatbots.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: DaNNy001 on August 08, 2025, 09:55:09 PM
Ai is here to stay and the use of it is becoming a norm, guess what's going to happen in 20 years time if people are already ai to do a lot now....I think that they are also consequences and disadvantages of it...due to how responsive ai is a lot of people have become too comfortable with it and they rely on it to do everything...some people can't do little things themselves if they don't use ai


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: ShowOff on August 08, 2025, 10:05:49 PM
Everything OP has said is very much on point, many persons have been instilled with the fear of AI taking over every of the sectors where human work and bringing threats to many human jobs but these people fail to understand that AI is and was programmed by humans, AI will always be subjected to human control because it depends mostly on the information humans have made available over the years so there's no information AI actually generates on its own except that which humans has supplied it


With technical jobs thet requires manual labour, AI cannot be a better substitute and even for soft skills where it seem like AI can take over, in the actual sense, AI does makes the work easier and reduces the number of persons needed to carry out the task but not that it completely takes out the human presence from the whole scene because humans as actually the master planners AI cannot do without.

People should be grateful rather than worried about the current developments in AI, I think everyone should learn how to adapt to these developments. In my opinion, in the future, AI will become a necessity in almost every field, both education and employment. AI will be the most effective tool to assist, and anyone who cannot adapt will be left behind.

I share this understanding, AI will not replace humans, it is simply a tool created to assist humans. However, the gap in education and employment may widen, and those living in poor countries with limited internet access will feel the impact. I think this is the real concern that governments in poor countries should be addressing.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Darker45 on August 09, 2025, 12:29:39 AM
AI won't replace humans; it rather boosts and improve human productivity, creativity, and otherwise. It widens humans' perspective. It makes things easy for them. It makes knowledge much more accessible. So, rather than painting AI as a threat, an evil innovation, humans should fully embrace it and exploit it. AI isn't an enemy.

That's precisely how the economy benefits from it. For example, you can't underestimate AI's potential contribution to research. A country that's determined to achieve its full potential, or even a private company that wants to improve its production, goes deep into and spends big in research. That's true whether the focus is on agriculture, health, various infrastructure, defense, manufacturing, engineering, or others. AI makes it a lot easier for them.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: MarjorieZimmermanGinger on August 09, 2025, 05:03:31 AM
AI will not only be taking away jobs, it will also generate new ones. AI does not function on its own. It is made by humans also to replicate what other humans has already done to create something a human has asked of it. Software engineers are going to be needed if more companies are wishing to put out AI. So, even though the rate of which AI is booming may be concerning.... not all hope is lost.

There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.
Training skills and building awareness to adapt to technological advancements is an effort that needs to be improved, and letting humans give up because of job losses caused by the emergence of AI is foolish. I believe there will always be new things that continue to develop, but how humans themselves can adapt is crucial. AI itself was created by humans, so there is a lot of room for exploitation. Not all hope is lost, because humans are still the best in the world, so what is needed is skill training to adapt.

Practically, humans are needed for stability and how we can adapt to coexist with the robots we design. Sometimes we see this as a major problem, and generally people fear that robots will replace humans in the workplace, but this fear will not solve the problem.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: WillyAp on August 09, 2025, 02:06:16 PM
There is progress with this too, as the hallucination problem is known for several years. I think the way sources are linked in current LLMs even for "mainstream" chatbots like Gemini is already a significant progress from the 2022/23 era chatbots.

Sure there is, that there should be.
Still the duty of checking does not disappear more of the contrary is the case.
The money pushed into those LLM outfits is insane, it confirms that there is too much money around.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: harapan on August 09, 2025, 02:57:35 PM

Of course there would always be a place for humans even with the existence of AI and most certainly we can't really depend on the rise of this tool to reshape the economy at large, let's drive back to time before the indulgence and existence of this robots or AI tools the economy was blooming even much better but along the line due to mismanagement and corruption we have a whole lot to amends and then we reckon to those machines that are created by humans ourselves to solve the problem? I think we don't need them when we can remedy it.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on August 10, 2025, 06:39:25 AM
In the next years to come,the world needs AI to function and Carry out technological tasks.Their emphasis on productivity,task replacement and stable activities.Using AI to reshape the economy requires proactive management and early progress to be able to outline how realistic engineering how AI can possibly improve the economy.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: davis196 on August 10, 2025, 10:06:00 AM
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Let's face it. AI is not going anywhere. We keep saying that it will develop soon enough to become dangerous to the people but there is no way of stopping it.

I don't get your point. Since AI would probably become a threat to the existence of the human kind, what's the point for us to "focus on growing our economy"? Won't AI just try to destroy our economy, if it really wants to destroy the human kind? When AI destroys the human civilization, there won't be any point of trying to adapt to AI and trying to change our professions. ;D
Jokes aside, AI would most likely kill all the "office plankton" jobs and all the bureaucratic morons, who pretend that they are working will have to find a real job. Future AI would be completely capable of replacing lawyers and even doctors(when it comes to diagnosing deceases).
Nobody is safe and maybe many young people should think twice before investing money and efforts in getting a diploma, that might become useless after a year or two.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Die_empty on August 10, 2025, 11:19:29 AM
I don't get your point. Since AI would probably become a threat to the existence of the human kind, what's the point for us to "focus on growing our economy"? Won't AI just try to destroy our economy, if it really wants to destroy the human kind? When AI destroys the human civilization, there won't be any point of trying to adapt to AI and trying to change our professions. ;D
Jokes aside, AI would most likely kill all the "office plankton" jobs and all the bureaucratic morons, who pretend that they are working will have to find a real job. Future AI would be completely capable of replacing lawyers and even doctors(when it comes to diagnosing deceases).
Nobody is safe and maybe many young people should think twice before investing money and efforts in getting a diploma, that might become useless after a year or two.
I get your point. Most people in public service just sit down in the office, carrying out monotonous tasks. AI will easily perform those tasks and make these workers unemployed. My advice for people is to begin to diversify their skills into other areas because the job loss will be massive. Acquiring a highly sought-after skill online will be better than attending a three to four-year college course that might not be relevant anymore. AI might replace lawyers when it comes to research and investigation of cases but I don't see a robot lawyer in the law court handling complicated cases.   


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Strongkored on August 10, 2025, 02:42:43 PM
There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.

Humans will adapt to emerging new technologies, that's the cycle.
It takes time, and it's undeniable that it will still make it difficult for people to find jobs, although some will actually benefit from AI if they understand how to maximize its potential.
Yes, humans will exist and create technology, which will also become controversial again.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Pi-network314159 on August 10, 2025, 05:44:37 PM
actually AI poses a threat to humanity, it will replace majority of job that human does but on a second thought if AI take away most jobs of human, it will create more opportunity in other field that people dont focus. meaning that human are subjected to changes, they adjust to situations with the passage of time. just like before there was a debate of technology, that it brought more harm than good while some said the opposite, but now we all have seen and utilized the important technology. so it is to AI, in the future human that was replaced in there field of work can learn to work as robot technician or robot engineer to work and repair robots both online and offline ;D. or they can learn coding and programming or any online work that will not require physical strength. in fact there will be more jobs for human to do since there is more door open to learning as humans.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Versatile_choice on August 10, 2025, 06:47:47 PM
Work will always be available. How we navigate matters alot. Let's not forget that certain group of people created so many of these AI tools, but it is not a threat to their own job, so I don't think that it should be a treat to others except we depend on it heavily.

Sure no matter what, there will still be job opportunities so I don't even see this AI of a stuff chasing or blowing out job opportunities in the country. perhaps AI is not created to Chase job opportunities rather they are created in other to assist human beings in some areas and not to reduce job opportunities  Except those companies that wouldn't want to spend much in paying workers that would choose to make use of AI, but I don't even see this as a good idea because if you make use of AI for a very long time there is a certain point where It will start misbehaving as he will be going against instructions.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: l3pox on August 11, 2025, 04:11:34 PM
AI won't replace humans; it rather boosts and improve human productivity, creativity, and otherwise. It widens humans' perspective. It makes things easy for them. It makes knowledge much more accessible. So, rather than painting AI as a threat, an evil innovation, humans should fully embrace it and exploit it. AI isn't an enemy.

That's precisely how the economy benefits from it. For example, you can't underestimate AI's potential contribution to research. A country that's determined to achieve its full potential, or even a private company that wants to improve its production, goes deep into and spends big in research. That's true whether the focus is on agriculture, health, various infrastructure, defense, manufacturing, engineering, or others. AI makes it a lot easier for them.

it'll replace some jobs, it won't replace humanity
there are some styles of work that are more at risk (everything that can be automated, from organizing boxes in real life to doing spreadsheets) and others that are way less at risk (like being a massage therapist or an athlete)

at the end of the day I think AI will unlokc a productivity boost that will be considerable and good for most of us.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: justdimin on August 11, 2025, 04:39:02 PM
Most people in public service just sit down in the office, carrying out monotonous tasks. AI will easily perform those tasks and make these workers unemployed. My advice for people is to begin to diversify their skills into other areas because the job loss will be massive. Acquiring a highly sought-after skill online will be better than attending a three to four-year college course that might not be relevant anymore. AI might replace lawyers when it comes to research and investigation of cases but I don't see a robot lawyer in the law court handling complicated cases.  
That seems like the easiest way to replace those jobs, and it would definitely be a good way to use it. However, codes are prone to break or be hacked, that's the scary part. All around the world, all government organizations got hacked at least once. Hell even FBI got hacked so many times, and where do you think all those wikileaks came from? So imagine there is an AI in charge, doing some boring task, and someone hacks into that AI, what are you going to do?

It would be near impossible for you to stop it on time, because you wouldn't know until it happens. That's why we are not seeing these changes anytime soon. We could have machined out so many jobs already, like even without AI, and we haven't, why do you think that is?


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: jaberwock on August 12, 2025, 05:28:32 AM
In all of these conversations of about AI taking over jobs, I think that most people who do not understand try to spread false information. AI will make jobs more efficient and people become more productive if they learn how to work collaboratively with AI in their work. And even on this AI discussion, new jobs are being created as a result of AI. What people have to do is to now improve on their skills to be able to use AI created jobs. And they are even having better pay than the other regular traditional jobs because only few people are in it at this time and they are highly sort after.
AI can make life easier and I think that contradicts with the word productive. The arrival of AI is still a good thing because like you said, it creates a new job and this gives more people more opportunities. This counters to the rumour that AI kicks out other people out of their jobs, if that is really true.

As for the pay rate, I think this still depends on the employer and not really about the technology but I wouldn't be picky if I'm only a beginner on it. Instead, I will build an experience first before advancing. AI is with us for quite a long time now actually, so I don't think only a few people are still on this board but the high demand should also be a reason for an increased in pay rate.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: hedgeh0g on August 13, 2025, 11:01:08 AM

There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.

I think that eventually the internet will value Digital Art items such as drawings or 3D models created by digital artists less, since AI can easily handle this task. But as for, for example, real art items, they are valued because they are created by a person. Also, repair engineers will not be replaced by AI because the computer does not understand anything about drawings and design.
And in general, we can see from the example of chat gpt 5 that humanity does not understand the essence of neural networks at all and makes a lot of mistakes, but for some reason continues to improve AI.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: l3pox on August 13, 2025, 04:33:18 PM

There is and will always be place for humans in the economy even with the existence of AI.

I think that eventually the internet will value Digital Art items such as drawings or 3D models created by digital artists less, since AI can easily handle this task. But as for, for example, real art items, they are valued because they are created by a person. Also, repair engineers will not be replaced by AI because the computer does not understand anything about drawings and design.
And in general, we can see from the example of chat gpt 5 that humanity does not understand the essence of neural networks at all and makes a lot of mistakes, but for some reason continues to improve AI.

art is not only valued because it was created by a person
I think we'll see more and more quality art made by AI where people have no idea what was the tool or source or even story of the piece and if they feel moved they'll pay high amounts for the said AI art
I don't think it'll take long, it's already starting


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Bitcoin Smith on August 13, 2025, 08:48:12 PM
Do not think that you would be talking to your therapist and it is AI. AI may be something you can "talk" to but it does not have the emotional depth a person has. You may want to consider this field.
It is very much possible with AGI, the next version of AI and we could expect them to be by 2035 so in next 15 years the AGI will be the best therapist that will simulate the same empathy a human can achieve and it will do things even better because it doesn't miss any detail, won't be distracted due to personal issues while humans can and most therapists are having issues deal their personal problems. :)

I am not saying AI will replace humans but definitely it is going to take away more jobs and people should be prepared for that day which is not that far away and there will be jobs which will still need human contribution but will that be enough with the increasing population?


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: passwordnow on August 13, 2025, 10:29:08 PM
Adoption to AI is what we'll have to do on a quicker manner. Those that are not going to adopt it will not see the opportunities that it will offer. I still believe that despite all of these innovations that are happening, there is still balance on the world from all possible industries. I guess that even farming could be done by AI robots in the future. But times will also change that the majority of the population will start to think differently and might just want to go back to the old days when there is not that much usage of technology because it's causing them too much anxiety, stress and depression.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Stavri on August 14, 2025, 07:57:49 AM
Think about what artificial intelligence has done and what it can do... I believe AI could actually perform almost all the tasks that require human labor.
In other words, almost everything we say “how could AI possibly do that?” will be done/managed by artificial intelligence in very short term maybe as little as 10 to 20 years.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Floxynice on August 14, 2025, 03:00:04 PM
First of all, not all jobs can and will be taken by AI. There would still be jobs that would require actual human labor. Social workers or those who have to interact and communicate with people would not be replaced by AI. Do not think that you would be talking to your therapist and it is AI. AI may be something you can "talk" to but it does not have the emotional depth a person has. You may want to consider this field.
I once had a conversation with someone who kept saying AI is taking over and so many people will lose their jobs. I know this is what will likely happen in the future if the government fails to regulate the use of AI.

We have already seen some negative consequences of AI, especially on the issues of promoting some goods or services with the use of AI generated celebrities and public figures we all know. Most of these public figures are not aware of these promotions. What this means is that people are using AI to mislead the public.

Talking about job creations and employment; the government can  create a balance between AI and humans by creating a law or laws that will reserve certain Jobs or certain percentage of the labour force for humans alone. If these is not done by the government, we all will be leaving at the mercy of AI.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: bangjoe on August 14, 2025, 03:57:43 PM
How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
If we talk about artificial intelligence (AI) and economic development, of course we will not forget the function of the Navy itself and its creator, for me Al is a tool, system or machine that must be helped by human intelligence is commonly known.

For this reason, it can be for economic growth but it will happen through the development of technology, the meaning of technological development is quite extensive Look at this time, such as innovation, productivity and so on, of course the presence of Al if it is well utilized can create a good economy globally, as long as you don't use it wrong for negative purposes.

In terms of utilization, it is indeed a very good innovation, but looking at it from another perspective, if you are an ordinary worker with average skills that can be replaced by AI, it is certainly very difficult when companies replace their employees with AI. An example of this is customer service. previously, every company had this service, both online and offline, and customer service representatives had the responsibility to respond to what customers needed. Now, AI can perform this task without the need to hire many workers, relying solely on AI to provide such services. Additionally, tasks like graphic design and others will become easier for AI to handle. It could be simplified that digital services will be easily disrupted by AI.

Many people will be affected by this, but I also acknowledge that this cannot be avoided because it will continue to evolve and disrupt many industrial sectors. What humans need to do now is to develop additional skills to remain competitive in the job market.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: peter0425 on August 14, 2025, 04:08:44 PM
Of course there would always be a place for humans even with the existence of AI
I guess for now but we know that there are things that in the past was unimaginable but now it is totally possible and has even become so normalized. So if we think that it is impossible for AI to replace humans well maybe 100 years from now or less, it can become real. In the mean time, let us make sure to make space for ourselves even despite AI.
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and most certainly we can't really depend on the rise of this tool to reshape the economy at large, let's drive back to time before the indulgence and existence of this robots or AI tools the economy was blooming even much better but along the line due to mismanagement and corruption we have a whole lot to amends and then we reckon to those machines that are created by humans ourselves to solve the problem? I think we don't need them when we can remedy it.
The question is... can we still really fix it? Is the world still really fixable? Lol.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: m2017 on August 14, 2025, 04:38:38 PM
 New technologies (mobile network, Internet, AI) are constantly appearing in the world of people, respectively, these technologies don't "kill" the niche in which they appear, but rather modify it, creating new jobs after replacing old jobs. For example, with the advent of cars, horsepower-based vehicles were "squeezed out" of the market, but at the same time new professions appeared, such as drivers, mechanics, engineers, etc. The same will happen with AI - some professions will be replaced by others, perhaps even with an increase in jobs. For some reason, many are afraid of AI, while it is just a "tool" in the hands of a person who will in no way be able to completely deprive this person of work. AI will not be able to support itself without a person, and already here, for example, a person is again required, which means there will be new jobs.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: EstherBtc on August 14, 2025, 04:39:38 PM
The long and short of it is that AI has is advantages and disadvantages at the long run. Most jobs will definitely be replaced by AI because employers are looking for cheap labour forgetting that this tool has it limitations and should be monitored by humans.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: l3pox on August 14, 2025, 05:36:51 PM
Adoption to AI is what we'll have to do on a quicker manner. Those that are not going to adopt it will not see the opportunities that it will offer. I still believe that despite all of these innovations that are happening, there is still balance on the world from all possible industries. I guess that even farming could be done by AI robots in the future. But times will also change that the majority of the population will start to think differently and might just want to go back to the old days when there is not that much usage of technology because it's causing them too much anxiety, stress and depression.

these new technologies are usually adopted in an exponential way
it was like that with the telephone, the mobile phone and the internet
we're seeing it first hand with crypto and we'll see it with AI too
ChatGPT was one of the fastest companies to reach 1 million users (5 days!)

any idea on what will be the next trend after AI?


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: js7807561 on October 16, 2025, 11:27:07 AM
You’re right—AI is changing the workforce fast. It’s creating some new jobs, but replacing many more, especially entry-level ones. It’s not just job loss, but job change—and not everyone will adjust easily.

We talked about this on https://bitcodesolution.com/ focusing on how people and businesses can stay relevant in an AI-driven world.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: bisdak40 on October 17, 2025, 02:47:25 PM
The long and short of it is that AI has is advantages and disadvantages at the long run. Most jobs will definitely be replaced by AI because employers are looking for cheap labour forgetting that this tool has it limitations and should be monitored by humans.

Yes, AI has advantages and disadvantages, because with the rise of AI, there are jobs that are affected, especially those jobs that are repetitive, like in production. But if we look at the good side, AI can be an advantage, especially for businesses, and if we don't want to be replaced by AI, we should invest in upskilling ourselves or learn how to embrace AI for innovation.


Title: Re: How to reshape the economy with the rise of AI?
Post by: Mame89 on October 17, 2025, 04:41:58 PM
The long and short of it is that AI has is advantages and disadvantages at the long run. Most jobs will definitely be replaced by AI because employers are looking for cheap labour forgetting that this tool has it limitations and should be monitored by humans.

Yes, AI has advantages and disadvantages, because with the rise of AI, there are jobs that are affected, especially those jobs that are repetitive, like in production. But if we look at the good side, AI can be an advantage, especially for businesses, and if we don't want to be replaced by AI, we should invest in upskilling ourselves or learn how to embrace AI for innovation.
We live in an era of increasingly advanced technology, and this era of AI seems unavoidable in the workplace, especially in the cognitive realm, not the physical realm. But if it's embedded in a machine, it's the same as being forced into physical work. We all have to start learning to hunt and continuously hone our skills to stay ahead.

Indeed with AI developments like this, we don't need to be overly afraid because not all industries are suited to AI. Some companies have tried using robots to create new products, but when calculated, the costs are much higher than with humans. The problem is that robots sometimes have many errors, while humans can still combine them with other components. AI still requires human moderation, but running a company that is entirely AI driven is very risky. Those with experience will likely still be hired to operate the AI. But for fresh graduates, it's a bit risky, so they need to quickly upgrade their skills.