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Casinos are gonna hate this: keep a slice of every win.

We know this board, many of you (OGs especially) bled thousands of BTC back on impulse. Heaters on Monday, dust by Friday. If even 1–5% had been stashed, a lot of us would be crazy up right now.

Enter Piggy (https://pig.gy) — a simple piggy bank for players.
When you score, skim a bit off the top, send it to Piggy, lock it for future-you, and keep playing without punting it back.

Win → skim → lock → log off.

Still early. Keep some of what you crush. pig.gy (https://pig.gy)

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/12/USvVCT.png (https://pig.gy)

Sorry, but I don't fully understand what this service is about. I first I thought this was going to be a casino, then I thought (while I was reading) this was going to be a casino with the possibility for people to invest in it's bankroll and generate passive income; but when you used the word "bank" there is where you completely lost me.
What would the difference be keeping Bitcoin on this service when anyone could do the same with more reliable and time-proven exchanges like Coinbase or Binance?
Also, what does any of this have to do with gambling and casinos to begin with?. Exchanges do not exclude gamblers or bettors, so you are already competing against very big players on the industry of custodial wallets/accounts.

Not even mention most Bitcoin holders prefer to exercise non-custody and have their own money always under their own control... Also, why a pig?

Short answer: we’re not a casino or a “yield” scheme. The “passive income” is simply Bitcoin’s own compounding—historically ~50%+/yr over long spans; if you’d locked BTC a decade ago you’d be up dozens of X...
Piggy (https://pig.gy) is a Bitcoin-only wallet with a Smart Lock. When you win, skim a slice and time-lock it so it doesn’t boomerang back to the tables—or to exchanges you mentioned (aka shitcoin casinos). We add friction by design so your wins actually survive.

Players: Win → skim → lock → log off.


Do you know what a piggy bank is? Check the link please :)

Casinos have vaults you can put some of your wins in and leave them there. You can also put some of your winnings into a cold wallet. What keeps you from taking a persons coins that they sent to you and disappearing?

Just doesn't really make sense to send coins to you honestly. I'll admit I haven't clicked on anything and read anything more than what you have posted here, but from the go it just looks like a possible way for users to get scammed.

This not make your service related to gambling. Being a wallet where people can hold bitcoin and having that bitcoin appreciate in value does not matter, there are lots of exchanges and wallets that have that feature. You already have a thread in the right section of the forum.

About your service - Bitcoin works best without the need of a third party. Anyone who wants to have their funds regulated by a bank like institution can buy indirectly through an ETF or another service.

- Jay -

A casino vault keeps you one click from redepositing. Cold storage is great, if you already have the discipline/workflow (which many players don't). Piggy is the easy button for that habit (separate place + lock + reminder).

And yeah, we know some folks won’t click but will still reply, signature-campaign counters gotta spin 😄. No worries, that’s the gist right here.

I smiled when I see this image at the home page,

https://hostmeme.com/uploads/1755018441_36c072.png

Do you have some system to lock your funds for x amount of time? and how it is different from existing solutions? Are you charging some money for this feature as I can see your free piggy has limited functionality.
Anyway great design and appeal, welcome to this wonderful forum.

Respectfully, I disagree, this belongs in Gambling.

We’re not pitching “price go up.” We’re tackling a gambling-specific problem: impulse redeposits and loss-chasing after a win.

What Piggy does: you pre-commit a % of wins, hit a Smart Lock, add friction, and step away. It’s a commitment app for players, not a casino, not yield, not a trading wallet.

Self-custody: totally agreed, it’s best for many. Piggy is optional for those who want a simple, lock-and-leave habit to keep some winnings from boomeranging back.
If mods want it moved, we’ll move it, but the problem we’re addressing lives here.

Thanks for clicking the link and checking out the site! We don’t know of any existing solution besides Bitcoin timelock, and that isn’t for everyone. The free Piggy doesn’t include this lock feature, you need to buy a unique Piggy, which has its own personality and uses AI when it communicates with you.

This is related to piggy vest or so, whereby its a platform that helps gamblers to save their earnings in a form of an investment, so that they can save and secure the future, which is not a bad idea to consider, however, as we know gamblers, not everyone made it to wining a huge amount of money they can spare to save, also, ever since the introduction of crypto, they would have prefer this more than any other investment plan, because with crypto as an asset, they can hold and earn from it over the years and also engaged in trading for some of them that can trade and also earn more.

This will apply to almost any investment and staking service out there, but they do not have anything directly with the theme of the board - "Gambling and all "investments" that are so risky they might as well be gambling (HYIPs, pyramid schemes, etc.)"
I will drop a report with the mods and let them decide.

As a user asked earlier, how would users know you would not simply dip with their funds?

- Jay -

When a new service is introduced, it certainly doesn't have the best reputation, but it's possible to build one over time. You and I all know that every new service is the same, but it's certainly not easy and takes time to build a good reputation and be trusted by everyone. Everyone should be careful, especially when it comes to their money. When they trust their bitcoin to a third party, there are risks they need to consider. One thing to always remember: "not your keys, not your bitcoin."

"Non custodial wallet - pig.gy is gonna hate this" :D

Read this one, this show if pig.gy isn't safe to hold your coins, I would prefer to lose my money in casino as long as I'm the one who spent it, rather than I lost my money on centralized site when I'm just doing nothing. I lost my money, but I didn't get the fun, so it's a lose-lose situation.

Your service is just like a lending company with different words.

I can't understand the concept of self-destructive gambling.  I think some people want to cause damage to their lives because they want something to complain about and blame for their failures.  That being said, since this is something I can't understand, maybe this is a needed service?  Who knows...  Personally I think people should take responsibility for control of their funds and not rely on some internet gimmick to save money for them, but if people need it and use it, then I wish success on everyone involved.

Totally fair. If you prefer self-custody, do that. We believe self-custody isn’t for everyone or every amount, and on-chain fees will likely be high enough that on-chain self-custody makes sense mainly for high-value transactions. The ToS line you quoted is standard abuse/fraud/security language, not a license to seize funds.

Totally agree: new services have to earn trust, and “not your keys, not your bitcoin” still stands.

We’re not asking anyone to park their life savings. Piggy is a piggy bank on the Lightning Network. What do you put in a piggy bank? Spare change, not your whole stack. Start tiny, or stick with self-custody if that’s your preference.

I just have some question to ask, What is the probability that you will not run away with assets locked under your custody? because this just does not explain better to my understanding how you run it, coupled with what I have seen as shared by Helena Yu in your ToS. Why will you terminate an account without a refund? what will you say about it because I do not find it funny though.

The probability we “run away” is 100% not happening, here’s why:
1. We’re a regulated company based in El Salvador. Regulators know exactly who we are and where to find us. There’s real legal recourse, this isn’t anons with a .io.
2. We’ve invested over $2M and years of work to build a long-term business. Rugging would vaporize that investment and expose us to criminal/civil penalties.
3. We publish transparent proof-of-reserves on our site so you can verify funds are there.

On the ToS line: it’s standard fraud/abuse/security language. It’s not a license to seize lawful users’ funds. If an account is closed for any reason, we’ll process legitimate withdrawals consistent with the law.

This is totally a new scheme but until there's something no reviews has been been or even there is, it will still raise some concern even if you say you can just park some spare change on your vault. I don't think that casinos are the one whose gonna hate this. The concern here is the thing that you may run away with the collected funds in the future, probably it will reverse the sentiment if you're or your team is doxxed, just my two cents.

What you need to earn here is trust and to do that I think it will come a long way, just accept the benefits of the doubt as of the moment. Well, you're still new and that's a thing with new products.

You are not to be trusted first of all, it's not like an trying to accuse you but this doesn't seem right for my gambler to do, all gamblers can actually hold their mind by themselves without involving anyone. Even if they can't keep their money on their own custody, there are more people outside there which they can trust with their money I guess. Some gamblers are holding alot of dollars on their custody and they are still gambling, not all gamblers are broke, just know without money one can not gamble which makes you to understand that they have money.

And still, I don’t understand how this service could attract Bitcoin users. What’s the advantage of sending sats to your address instead of sending them to my own timelocked address? Any neural network can explain how to do it, or even help write a script to automate it. The days when this required technical skills are over.

Since this is all so trivial now, could you share a short example of creating a self-custody timelocked address, just a minimal step-by-step with tiny script snippet (CLTV/CSV is fine) to show the flow?

When you post it, remember you’re writing for a non-technical user. I’ve been in Bitcoin development for 10 years, and it’s still not easy for me. The worst part is you won’t know if the address works until the day arrives, some extra adrenaline.

With Piggy, it’s one click, no scripts and no risk of messing up and losing funds.

Piggy is a gambling site? It seem not a gambling site

So basically your business model is "give us your coins, we will keep them safe for you(until we run away with them)". ;D
I get your point of trying to protect gamblers from wasting their gambling money, but nobody is going to trust you enough to send his coins to your service.
By the way, I like the domain name pig.gy, but having a cheap domain name with a .gy extension also can be seen as a red flag and a signal, that you don't want to build a legit and trustworthy business.
Why do you think that the crypto casinos "are going to hate this"? The casinos won't even notice the existence of your crypto service.

You can try it yourself. Use that exact sentence as your prompt. ChatGPT will walk you through it and propose concrete steps for implementation. You do not need to understand the technical internals. If something is interesting, ChatGPT can explain it. If not, it will simply give you a step by step guide and can break down each step.

If you are unsure, you can add this line to the prompt just in case:
I already asked in Russian. You can check it here: https://chatgpt.com/share/689c75cc-f360-8009-8f3e-3cd1067255df
ChatGPT can translate if needed.

No it is not a gambling platform. It is basically a piggy bank for for your savings whose keys are not in your hands.

Yeah, I agree they need to build trust first. But it is an chicken egg problem lol. I suggest to take help of some reputable campaign manager and start signature campaigns. You (piggy) can also sponsor some community exclusive contests to boost your branding and credibility.   

Guess who decided to delete the other thread that had some constructive criticism and opened this new one expecting only positives

For those wondering, here is the archived version of the other no deleted thread because OP could "defend" his wallet that he thinks casinos will hate  ;D

https://ninjastic.space/topic/5554438

Once a historic place where Satoshi himself was posting, now little more than an endless billboard for casinos and a hunting ground for low-effort signature beggars. What a shame.

Here's the process to create timelocked transaction https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2415595.msg24712087#msg24712087

Newbies might find it difficult to make the transaction, but they can learn and follow those steps.

Probably messing up with the script could happen, that's why they should try with a small amount and make for the next few block. So they can know if they successfully make it or not.