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so after having bought crypto p2p and took a nice 5% fee i now want to sell to someone p2p to free up capital and restart the process again , but one problem arise

how can i get payd online( no cash) without running the risk off getting charged back by a scammer ?

i like using revolut but from what i heard its possible to get scammed there and paypal aswell



any help or ideas is welcome, thanks in advance :)

If you are talking about this "trade" of yours (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5554031), sorry, but nothing seems to be true. At least, until you prove it otherwise.


Paypal is a known reversible payment method; Revolut isn't. But, if someone makes a "mistake", he can reverse the payment or cancel it. You can also find alternatives on Bestchange or Kycnot. But why don't you sign up for an exchanger, sell whatever you want, and withdraw the fiat?

i understand that as a mod you see thousands of scammers everyday and you got burned out and now you call every newbie a scammer but im really not i did this deal on "leboncoin" witch is the craiglist of france and really asked for 5% and he agreed and came and we did the deal so please refrain from calling peoples scammers without checking cause it can hurt the business off innocent peoples and many peoples think the same here

Paypal is a known reversible payment method; Revolut isn't. But, if someone makes a "mistake", he can reverse the payment or cancel it. You can also find alternatives on Bestchange or Kycnot. But why don't you sign up for an exchanger, sell whatever you want, and withdraw the fiat?
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what do you mean by "if someone makes a mistake he can reverse the payment " so essentialy he can act like its a mistake and scam me ?

But why don't you sign up for an exchanger, sell whatever you want, and withdraw the fiat?
[/quote] if i do that eventually the french taxes will be on me and its better to sell p2p cause you can charge 0.5% ( undercutting dex prices) or do it for free to help the blockchain

First of all, I'm not a mod. Secondly, what the Hell are you talking about? You create a thread about an rl trade of yours without any evidence at all. Just because you say something doesn't mean that it's true. And how do you know how people think here? You just came, another noob, who wants us to believe that he is legit and trusted by saying empty, unproven things. But you are neither legit nor trusted.


Yes. He can, the same as you can to any other.


But you said that you earn 110 USDC from this "trade" of yours. Now you care about the sustainability of blockchain? By the way, USDC isn't BTC...🙄😂

i read your posts you seem to be doing a good job at catching scammers but once again i assure you right now you are just bullying a genuine newbie here with your accusations tell me what proofs i have to send.
also i am not selling anything here i just come here for advice and read posts to learn
i wont try to sell here cause anyway its very hard to get anything above 1% commision and mods like you constantly bash me calling me a scammer because im new
and yes many peoples sayd the same thing about mods bullying legit newbies if you want i have screenshots with clients telling me the same thing about this site when i asked them after we are done to vouch me on bitcointalk 

and the screens are from months ago with the date it cant be made up there is a real problem on this site like cmon we are tired to get bullied by the goverment so we come here in crypto to be free and we just get bullied by mods now
 

It's more than obvious that you are indeed another troll with fake claims about trades etc. You are trying to build trust, but you can't even write a proper sentence with a logical explanation. If you are tired of all the efforts that you made (because it's almost 100% sure that this isn't your first and only account), then stop posting and create fake and scammy threads. But I doubt that you even understand, your mental issue is bigger than big!😆

1i asked you what proof do you want to see and you just double down on the calling out

2nd english is my third language i am doing my best ma langue c est le francais

3rd  "then stop posting and create fake and scammy thread" what the heck is even a scammy thread ?? man get some help im just asking for advices and learning in the community im not even selling anything here
and if i do i will use escrow from trusted peoples in the site i cant believe the mods are letting you bully peoples like this and damaging the site without doing anything ???  

@cyrus @cyrus_am_i

I have the same question as you. How do you still keep coming back after all those accounts and negatives? You don't get bored with being a troll?


So your first is French (you can't even write it correctly), your 3rd is English, and we are missing the second. Tell us, we all want to laugh!

stop changing subjects for the fifth time now what proof do you want ? i can send so you can finnaly admit you are wrong and just bullied newbies for no reason
 2nd i write correclty in french what are you on ?
ur life is so sad i rather be me and have just 0.1 btc than be you with entire bitcoins but be a terrible person that antagonize everyone and then does weird things on OF

btw you look like this https://www.reddit.com/r/southpark/comments/1fkvrsn/does_this_guy_have_a_name/

one thing thats good about you is you dont lie you didnt deny ur of adiction and that you look like that guy from souths park

you finnaly stopped bugging me ? or you going to tell me what proof you need so i can send it

I don't want enter in the matter troll, spam etc...

OP, coming back on topic:
You can get a "loan" from your coins and get a % back in FIAT (around 50-70%). No chargebacks, no interactions.
You can use a debit card that allow you to charge with bitcoin. It's easy and cheap as option (and some are without KYC).
Of course both case have more fees probably then the generic way but these are really useful as medium.

the loan thing is good cause i can get fiat out of crypto without selling and matter fact i am short 1000euro for an otc deal for tomorow so this could be usefull depending on how much fee they take 
i can payback the next day do you know how much fee they will take for that time ?
and what is the name of the app.

bias is going to call me a scammer when he wakes up so im going to give all the facts before . deal happening in besancon south of france and im coming from paris ( customer pays the trip ) deal will be made inside the casino i will withdraw  3000euro
to buy his usdc worth 3200euro he will send in this adress 0x93924ddbb41dceee8af0bf6610ce0ede70310493 and i will vlog the whole thing so you can finnaly admit you are wrong about me and stop antagonizing newbies  .
who the HELL would spend 45e on a train and waste his whole day going back and forth crossing the entire country to fake a transaction just to build enough trust to scam one person and then get banned  and have to make another account ? nobody , cya tommorow

Hey Duke I'd like to send you a DM, you have to allow newbies to do so in your profile setting if you're ok with that :)

I'm not a scammer, but it seems like newbies are automatically accused here so you can only take my word for it.

hi i oppened the dm to newbies i didnt knew that was an option

"it seems like newbies are automatically accused here so you can only take my word for it"

yes but it seem to always be this one guy "bias" that does it

Thankfully, I'm not the only one who knows how noobs like you act and what they are trying to achieve with their posts. Learn first how you can post the proofs that you supposedly have, and then talk. Plus, as I said earlier, I'm not a mod or admin. It seems that your brain functionality can't process it at one time.🤕😆

sure just tell me how you post pictures so i can humble you cause when i click on the thing it just says http://
if you really tought i was a faker you would be telling me how to post but you dont cause you doubting urself right now and when you say " how you keep making accounts" its my first and only account
if i had another one you would have found out cause my charachter my writting style and personality is unique and easy to spot . and i wont waste my time going back and forth with you by now everyone knows ur just a big slop troll that got rich by luck in early bitcoin and is unhappy thats why u take out ur anger on newbies go get ur sh*t together stop going on of stop taking meds and drugs and find a purpose idk man

bias come here big man  :D

OP
You can use NEXO.
Money are granted fast (maximum I had to wait 2 hours but 24/48 hours are possible).
Interest Is 18% year. If you pay too fast there Is Always an extra fee to be added on top.
You can get up to 2.9% if you have their token.

When you tell me which is your second language. But if you are so eager to meet me, you can come to my country. Unfortunately, here, you can't bring anything else than your skinny pathetic lying a**. Don't you worry, though, it won't be beaten too much kiddo!😂😂😂


The terms/info for getting a loan (credit line, as they say it in Nexo) aren't so simple as you say. Firstly, the interest for low portfolios is 18.9% and not 18%. Secondly, it's compounding per day, and that changes the repayment amount. Lastly, you can indeed drop it to 2.9%, but you need to have a portfolio of at least $5k, 10% of it will have to be in their token, AND your LTV remains below 20%. Our OP doesn't even have $2k to make a "trade", not to retain a $5k balance permanently on Nexo!😂

Ok what country you are in if you are serious let’s do this

i have enough to meet their requirement if i need a loan is because im not liquid i never have cash almost everything is in stocks and safe crypto like btc


you are done lol someone showed me how to send pictures all this time you tryed to gatekeep so i dont humble you lol wait when the copper membership thing comes and i will drop all the proofs that will teach you

Well, professor? When will you teach me by dropping all the proofs? Or is your copper membership not working for you? I'm starting to get bored, Mr Gunman...🥱🥱

Of course I had to simplify and can't explain all fees and so on since there are many cases . anyway this is a truly solution and I can confirm that I have used many times for amounts similar to OP.
And please be aware that more or less the count above is correct. If OP doesn't have conditions for best rate market he can borrow at 1,9% monthly.

I have even realized an easy tool that allow to customize some of these calculations, you can find here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5526183.msg65158742#msg65158742
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tuBB1ao7CBPe9Lih6vkTjNF-VTN32OCpQAIo2sSKXsA/edit?gid=0#gid=0

i dropped the proofs for that casino deal and now you went ghost ohhh thats so low from you i would be embarassed if i was you talking all that crap for weeks and always doubling down like you was a 100% sure i was a scammer attempter, i bet you are so bad at trading and gambling too cause you can never admit when you are wrong on a trade and always double and triple down

i have the 5k in crypto but will borrow just for a few days max and then pay back because its for otc deals. lets say i borrow at 1.9% and pay back in 2 days how much are they going to charge me in total ?

customer reachs out to me on leboncoin, he has an account with reviews and acitve since 2021
https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/21/UZRwcf.jpeg

we talk about doing it in a casino i ask if they got an atm and how much is the entrance fee
https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/21/UZRwcf.jpeg

he ask what are my fees i tell him im buying 3k for 2850 ( it looks better than saying i take 5% cause it looks like a lot lol)
https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/21/UZRA0Z.jpeg

im not gonna post the whole conversation cause its too long now the train tickets from paris to besancon his city

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/21/UZRSM8.jpeg
https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/21/UZRZJ3.jpeg

the payement on revolut for the train (btw he added 50euro to the commision to make me come so he doesnt have to move )
https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/21/UZRQS9.jpeg

i arrive there a bit too early and go to the casino. i look weird being in a casino and not playing so at 13h19 first ticket i withdraw the minimal amount 20e and start acting like im playing
he walks in and somehow i just knew it was him. he sends a message and i tell him im the guy next to the atm, he comes we shake hands i ask him to show me the wallet , he show me the usdc , i withdraw the first half 1480 and add in the 20e from the previous ticket, i hit the max daily withdrawal limit on this account so i tell him im wiring the money to another account to withdraw the rest, meanwhile we sit at a table and start talking , i receive the money on the other account and make the withdraw. we go back at the table and he sends the money to my wallet 0x93924ddbb41dceee8af0bf6610ce0ede70310493 i look in ethscan and see i have incoming coins,
https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/21/UZRPzT.jpeg

 i give him the money he counts and then this gambling addict(im one too) puts 10 in the machine and we play with 5 bucks each ( we got along very fast thanks to the magic of gambling )
cant post the videos i took here so i got only pics
https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/21/UZRT01.jpeg

we won some money and then blew the 10bucks all away but it was fun, i got my commision he got his cash tax free , i see the usdc in my balance , we waddle out of the casino like some happy penguins,
he tells me he will text me when he needs to cash out again i tell him alright and if you got friends that want to sell too bring them and i will split the commision with you, we shake hands and leave

i take the train home and look at the scenery out the window THEN I SEE BIAS OUTSIDE HE DOXED ME
https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/21/UZRFJW.jpeg