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Title: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: terrytibbs on December 24, 2011, 07:26:01 AM
Here's my issue:
1) Mr. Diablo abuses his power as a moderator and stickies a post which may bring him monetary gain.
2) Mr. Diablo is very pushy and can not come to terms with people not sharing his opinion on things, making remarks such as "You might wish to remember who the moderator is for this part of the forum."

I request that Mr. Diablo's administrative powers be removed with immediate effect, as he has quite clearly shown that he is in no way capable of such a task.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: Maged on December 24, 2011, 07:35:13 AM
Honestly, in many ways I agree. However, there are few people who can replace him in his other moderation tasks beyond general moderation. For example, he's really the only person who knows what should be stickied on the Mining board.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: BitcoinPorn on December 24, 2011, 01:21:14 PM
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"If the Bitcointalk Forum buys BitcoinPorn a 7970, he will benchmark and tune DiabloMiner and cgminer for it. No one has released valid benchmark numbers, and I'm tired of the bullshit, and I expect everyone else is too.

Send BTC to 1DbeWKCxnVCt3sRaSAmZLoboqr8pVyFzP1 and help make this happen."

If there was any possibility at all that the above post would have been a sticky, then no abuse of power.  Something tells me you can't just insert any name in that post and expect it to have went down the same.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: BadBear on December 24, 2011, 01:46:20 PM
Quote
"If the Bitcointalk Forum buys BitcoinPorn a 7970, he will benchmark and tune DiabloMiner and cgminer for it. No one has released valid benchmark numbers, and I'm tired of the bullshit, and I expect everyone else is too.

Send BTC to 1DbeWKCxnVCt3sRaSAmZLoboqr8pVyFzP1 and help make this happen."

If there was any possibility at all that the above post would have been a sticky, then no abuse of power.  Something tells me you can't just insert any name in that post and expect it to have went down the same.

Agreed, nothing wrong with making the thread but making it a sticky is unwarranted. 


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: grue on December 24, 2011, 06:26:38 PM
Honestly, in many ways I agree. However, there are few people who can replace him in his other moderation tasks beyond general moderation. For example, he's really the only person who knows what should be stickied on the Mining board.
orly?

what special skills does he have?


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: rjk on December 24, 2011, 06:44:09 PM
Honestly, in many ways I agree. However, there are few people who can replace him in his other moderation tasks beyond general moderation. For example, he's really the only person who knows what should be stickied on the Mining board.
orly?

what special skills does he have?
He wrote the first miner (DiabloMiner) and is the number one most qualified individual to benchmark and tune it for that reason.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: grue on December 24, 2011, 08:15:27 PM
Honestly, in many ways I agree. However, there are few people who can replace him in his other moderation tasks beyond general moderation. For example, he's really the only person who knows what should be stickied on the Mining board.
orly?

what special skills does he have?
He wrote the first miner (DiabloMiner) and is the number one most qualified individual to benchmark and tune it for that reason.
DiabloMiner is probably the least used miner. guiminer and cgminer is better than it in every other way. And just because he has skills doesn't mean he can be excused for misconduct. there are other programmers, hire them instead.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: Raoul Duke on December 24, 2011, 08:21:17 PM
Honestly, in many ways I agree. However, there are few people who can replace him in his other moderation tasks beyond general moderation. For example, he's really the only person who knows what should be stickied on the Mining board.
orly?

what special skills does he have?
He wrote the first miner (DiabloMiner) and is the number one most qualified individual to benchmark and tune it for that reason.
DiabloMiner is probably the least used miner. guiminer and cgminer is better than it in every other way. And just because he has skills doesn't mean he can be excused for misconduct. there are other programmers, hire them instead.

Why hire if the dude works for free in exchange of those sticky threads...


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: terrytibbs on December 24, 2011, 08:29:58 PM
number one most qualified individual
number one most qualified individual
number one most qualified individual
number one most qualified individual
number one most qualified individual
Thanks for the lulz!


Why hire if the dude works for free in exchange of those sticky threads...
https://i.imgur.com/E1yOm.jpg


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: grue on December 24, 2011, 08:51:13 PM
Why hire if the dude works for free in exchange of those sticky threads...
i wouldn't get an insane person to watch my kids even if he paid me.  ::)


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: rjk on December 24, 2011, 10:39:35 PM
Thanks for the lulz!
You're most welcome!

DiabloMiner is probably the least used miner.
Least used (If that is true, I don't know) does not mean something that performs worse or is necessarily inferior. Some might skip it simply because it is written in Java, even if that is not relevant to its performance.

guiminer and cgminer is better than it in every other way.
Did you miss the part where he also offered to tune conman's cgminer using it?


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: terrytibbs on December 25, 2011, 03:17:36 AM
I see that the thread has been un-stickied, but still cannot find an explanation of the whole fiasco by a staff member. Why is Diablo still a member of the staff? If he knew his decision to sticky the thread would be controversial, why did he fail to consult with another staff member before proceeding?

Even his fellow staff members are noticing how he looks "like a giant dick" when you disagree with him. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7760.msg527624#msg527624) I don't think this is a good formula for a successful board of staff.

Please revoke DiabloD3's administrative powers immediately.

At the very least, I will be expecting a full and thorough apology to the community by DiabloD3. Just because I know how much his stubborn ass will cringe from all the shame.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: Maged on December 25, 2011, 06:46:34 AM
I see that the thread has been un-stickied, but still cannot find an explanation of the whole fiasco by a staff member.
After reviewing the feedback from the community, theymos decided to overturn Diablo's stickying of the thread. If theymos wishes to say anything else on this matter, he will have to do it himself. The best I can tell you is that his reasons for keeping Diablo around are both good, and similar to my own earlier reasoning.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: Fiyasko on December 25, 2011, 07:34:24 AM
I see that the thread has been un-stickied, but still cannot find an explanation of the whole fiasco by a staff member.
After reviewing the feedback from the community, theymos decided to overturn Diablo's stickying of the thread. If theymos wishes to say anything else on this matter, he will have to do it himself. The best I can tell you is that his reasons for keeping Diablo around are both good, and similar to my own earlier reasoning.
Moderators actually dealing with other Moderators.
The community powered by the fuel of bitcoins appears to be a Great one.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: grue on December 25, 2011, 07:52:22 PM
I'm not sure about you guys, but looking over his last posts, he doesn't seem to be a calm person.

Read the article, they say shit like "bitmining" and "server wouldn't verify so we had to solo mine". I have no clue what they were smoking, but all I wanted was answers like which miner they used, what args they used with it, and etc etc.

tl;dr: fucking mass media, how does it work

Edit: Also, their testing methodology is bullshit. From my calculations, a 5870 should be around 390 mhash at stock.


he also triple bumps his own thread, even though it's already stickied ::)
Interested in 79xx support? See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55540

he's also pretty inactive, with only 11 posts this month, and most of them being replies to his diablominer topic, and "gimme a 7970" topic.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: terrytibbs on December 26, 2011, 12:14:25 PM
No compelling reason to keep Diablo around would explain why theymos still hasn't responded.

Go #occupybitcointalk!


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: grue on December 26, 2011, 09:08:41 PM
No compelling reason to keep Diablo around would explain why theymos still hasn't responded.

Go #occupybitcointalk!
lolwut?


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on December 26, 2011, 10:23:27 PM
I bet there is a correlation between people who don't know what DiabloD3 does and those who don't use IRC.

You could say the same thing for "SomeoneWeird".





Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: rjk on December 26, 2011, 10:26:42 PM
I bet there is a correlation between people who don't know what DiabloD3 does and those who don't use IRC.

You could say the same thing for "SomeoneWeird".

...Bingo. Nail on the head there.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: terrytibbs on December 27, 2011, 04:11:27 AM
You could say the same thing for "SomeoneWeird".
That he stickies posts out of self-interest?

...no.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: Raoul Duke on December 27, 2011, 04:22:10 AM
I bet there is a correlation between people who don't know what DiabloD3 does and those who don't use IRC.

Yup, most people that use IRC already know for a long time that DiabloD3 is a lunatic... Thanks for reminding us!


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: theymos on December 27, 2011, 06:04:43 AM
Diablo-D3 is a moderator because he is an expert in this area, I trust him, and I think that most people in the mining section appreciate his moderation style.

In this case I reversed his decision because it seems that the large majority of people don't want that thread stickied.


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: mc_lovin on December 29, 2011, 11:34:39 PM
Is he right for wanting to do a complete testing and miner-tuning? YES!

Is it right to sticky the thread? NO!


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on December 29, 2011, 11:39:35 PM
Is he right for wanting to do a complete testing and miner-tuning? YES!

Is it right to sticky the thread? NO!

QFT


Title: Re: DiabloD3's conflict of interest in sticking his thread
Post by: tonto on January 05, 2012, 06:05:08 PM
I personally have no issue with him making the thread and making it a sticky.  For GPU mining, my coding skills are about .1 on a 100 scale.  So if he gets some donations and gets a card, no sweat off my sack.
 
Maybe he should keep track of who sends donations, and give them a preview of his optimized card before releasing it to the public. :)  I'd have zero problems with that, too.  While I currently use guiminer, it's only because it was the first one I downloaded, and I don't have the time to "learn" a new miner just yet, but would gladly give his miner a look-see when I get my 7970.
 
No one is being forced to send a donation, no one is being forced to use/pay for his software.