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While playing slots, I noticed that some games displayed different RTP percentages, some as high as 120%, others around 80%, and so on. Logically, games with higher RTPs should give you a better chance of winning back your money. However, when I chose a game with a higher RTP, I ended up on a losing streak, which was quite frustrating. So, I switched back to my usual game, Sweet Bonanza, which has an RTP of around 80%. Fortunately, I managed to recover some of my losses there and immediately stopped playing to avoid further losses.

From this, I learned that RTP does not guarantee a win every time you play, because the results of the slot are still determined by the RNG, which makes the results random.

What do you think?

There's no logic in what you're talking about or you simply don't understand what RTP means. You show me any casino and any game that claims to have an RTP of 120%. You can't because that does not exist, it would mean that the casino on average gives away $1.20 for every $1 wagered. They are a profit seeking business and not a charity. The normal range would be 80-98% RTP but always below 100% because that is the profit that a casino takes from the player. The game might be engineered in a way that generates higher payouts but with more losses in between, so you can see different dynamics that still end up with the same RTP overall. It's weird that you say "RTP does not generate a win every time" which is actually the opposite of what it's trying to do - which is to regulate your losses at a certain rate.

As far as I know you really have to take a lot of spins to "take advantage" of RTP. In short, players will get back $96 for every $100 wagered (the casino keeps $4 as profit). So high RTP doesn't equate better short term wins. So you really have to play longer, others experimented with it and says that at least hundreds of thousands of spins to really to get the payback or wins that you win.

So yes, it's not a guarantee to win, as again, it's how the game behaves over infinite number of times of spins. So if by chance or luck you really hit big then it's time to get out and quit while you are on top.

Even with different RTP's, you should not expect the casino will give you better chances to make higher profits. RTP is a long-term average, not a guarantee. Some games pay out small, frequent wins, while others rarely pay but can hit very big payouts. I would not recommend thinking that you can outsmart the system because the RNG ensures an completely unpredictable outcome.

Just play what you think is most fun. The result will not be what you are hoping for, anyway.

Seriously, is there even a casino that gives an RTP of 120%? How could they possibly win like that, are they running a charity? As far as I know, the highest RTP you’ll normally see is around 98%, and even that’s already rare. Some casinos give promos where it’s basically 100% RTP for a limited time, but I’ve never seen any legit place offer 120%. That would be suicide for them.

Based on the explanations I've read, RTP and RNG collaborate in slot games. RTP provides returns or winnings over a period of 100 spins, while RNG is a system that randomly decides combinations on slot reels and lines. Therefore, I conclude that if we play a slot game with a higher or enhanced RTP, there is a chance we can win back our money.

However, that doesn't mean we can't lose as you experienced. It is just a matter of luck, whereas what you experienced was unlucky. I also feel that the bankroll we set aside for playing is also a major factor, If we only set aside a small amount, it is likely to be quickly depleted after a few losing streaks, while luck hasn't yet struck, and there may be several other factors that could influence it. However, we shouldn't expect too much from gambling; consider it entertainment with the potential to provide additional entertainment (winnings). This can help us stay calm and avoid frustration when gambling. Ensure that the money we bring for gambling can afford to lose.

By the way, here is the reference what I've read : What RTP and volatility mean in slots (https://www.oddschecker.com/us/casino/guides/what-rtp-volatility-mean-slots)

I think you have misunderstood the RTP as usually is as low as 83% to a max of 99% in many slot machines. That 120% is only shown by some specific casinos which tell you how much the slot has paid in 24 hours, 7 days and a month. If you happen to see that 120% number it means that the slot is in a hot streak at the moment paying people and of course we don't know if it will continue but anytime I see such result I jump over to play that slot. I have also seen 64% during 24 hours and this is something I never jump onboard as the risk is high that this slots continues to eat money until we don't know when it will stop. So most probably you confused what the casino was presenting to you.

What casino are you playing on? 80% RTP is way too low, and I don’t think there’s any legit casino that offers something that bad. On average, Sweet Bonanza sits around 96% RTP, so that “80%” you mentioned doesn’t really exist. Most likely you just misunderstood it.

RTP is just the stats of how much a slot games return to player hence RTP( return to player).

Those 120% RTP is the live RTP of the game on a certain time frame but in the theoretical RTP of each slot is always below 100% due to house edge.

Higher theoretical RTP means the lower the house edge but that doesn’t mean you have higher chance to win since slot games is complete random. Those RTP will just take effect on great sample of bets.

Although, it’s wise to play on games on less house edge game or higher RTP but the difference is not noticeable if you are betting in low sample.

RTP is not a witchcraft win toggle mate it is just a long term median.  The thing is over millions of turn highRPP games may yield lofty repay, however RNG create every session utterly messy.  It is all hubbub in the short term, so you might exposure to a losing streak on highRTP or strike it blessed on lowRTP. I will urge smart RTP selection is favorable over time, however do not figure up on it to save you every time.  why? cause slot machines are just for fun, not for sure

In RTP slots, it usually does not exceed 97%. Playing slots with an RTP below 90% is a kind of "mauvais ton" for the slots lover. If you find an 80% RTP slot somewhere, then bypass it in 5 km. Although, as they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder... By the way, an RTP of 120% is absurd, or you are not in a casino, but in a charity organization.

P.S. Of course, this is just a subjective opinion.

RTP can not exceed 100% and 100% RPT is not possible because that means the casino will not have anything to gain from. At least the RPT will be 99% and I have not seen a casino with such high RPT before. The RPT are slightly lower than 99%. I have seen RPT of 97% which has been the highest that I have seen before.

But let me assume you did not see the RPT very and let me answer you question. Do not just let casinos to use RPT to deceive you. If I like a slot game, I play it and I make sure that I see what the result will be. There are some slots that are frustrating and I will stop playing it if I noticed that I have played like 5 times and it is frustrating.

Those are probably the live RTPs that some casinos show below or beside the game list. It's only temporary numbers, and can make you assume that the game will keep on paying out throughout the day.

I used to pick slot games based on those live RTPs, but in reality, they don't matter too much because luck doesn't stay the same for every gambler.

You already answered  the question in one of your statement, RTP does not really guarantee more profitability in slot and that's because the RNG is still what determines the results, though you might have more chance but once they hit you at random, when you don't expect, then you will still lose all your money. Pray  for luck and play with amount you can afford to lose.

A high RTP doesn't guarantee a win and a low RTP doesn't necessarily mean you'll lose. Ultimately, it all depends on your luck during the session. RTP only reflects how fair a game is in the long run. However this doesn't mean you should ignore RTP; choosing a game with a high RTP increases the chances that the game will provide more profits for players over time. Consider RTP as a long-term guide to help you choose games with better profit potential.
By the way on which games and sites have you found a 120% RTP?

RTP does not anything outcome in a game, although the casino claim they do, and the higher the RTP the least the gambler will lose. It indicates the percentage of wagered money that a slot machine or in game in the casino will pay back to players with time. For example, an 80% RTP means the player will have 160$ back in a game where he wagered $200. Well the casino have an edge over the players, so in long run the casino always profit while the player loses. Only when a player is lucky can he profit from slot games.

Wrong question… RTP is for the players, but the house edge is what actually makes the casinos profitable. They just use different terms, but from the start the most common word has always been “house edge.”

Every casino has it. The only difference is that some games have a slightly lower edge, which means you can last a bit longer. But no matter what, the house edge is still there, and in the end, you’ll still lose eventually.

How did you determine this? Was it written in the game itself?

Traditionally, RTP is 95% and below. With RTP of 120%, the gambler should almost always win.

And that is why such high RTPs don't exist, because it would ruin the casino. The figure of 95% (and lower) was not chosen by chance.

This is what I'm talking about. It means that the RTP doesn't correspond to the declared values.

If you had played longer, you would have lost all your winnings.

The basis of RTP is that the longer you play (in time), the more you lose. Low RTP doesn't mean that you will not win. You will, but the ratio of losses / wins will be in favor of losses.

There's no winning in slots, whatever the percentage of the RTP is, unless it's so high that it becomes unfair for the online casino, which is impossible to happen.

I don't rely on RTP percentage anymore because I have games in my list that I know will give back as soon as they can. Also, I pick games that don't rely on "free spins". I am a grinder, so I don't buy free spins, and as much as possible, I can win in both normal spins and when it gives free spins while rolling normally.

If the RTP really were 120%, it would mean that the casino would have a loss of 20% in the long run, and for this reason this cannot happen in principle. In reality, the RTP in licensed casinos does not exceed 96%. For non-licensed casinos, this indicator is significantly lower and can reach 30-50%. And this is one of the reasons why licensed casinos should be chosen for the game.

It can exceed 100% but for short period. There’s 2 type of RTP theoretical and live RTP. Theoretical RTP is the one that is set by the slot provider when they developed the slot games while Live RTP is the actual result of the slot games based on the total wager and total profit made by players on that specific game.

For example is this:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/08/17/USWB8H.jpeg

Players is winning over the casino by playing this slot games on different time frame.

Some casino display this live RTP to determine what is the hot and cold slot for players to have an idea what to choose.

Perhaps a 24H RTP of 80% means that the slot is actually paying out less than it should theoretically, since Pragmatic Play's RTP is 96.5%.

If the 24H RTP is low, it means that the slot is not paying out as much as it should.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/08/17/USWiwg.png

And if a slot has a higher 24H RTP, it means that the slot is performing well and paying out a lot to players.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/08/17/USW8EI.png

At least, that's how it's understood.

You’re right on this analysis. It’s not all the time all casino games is winning for the casino side.

Some players win on certain games that contributes a lot on that high percentage RTP. Casino is still making profit since they have a lot of games that performs low RTP to other player.

What I’m looking forward to see on that data is the total wager made on that games so that we can determine the significant impact of that RTP in terms of profit.

What I think is that what you have said is clearly false, as you have been repeatedly told in the comments, and you should edit this or clarify it in a subsequent comment.


You can also get three heads in a row if you flip the coin three times, but the probability remains 50%. To say that the RTP changes based on the results in 24 hours is to misunderstand statistical variability.


No, he is not, for the reasons mentioned above. The casino does not care what happens in 24 hours, as it relies on large numbers to make money, and there the RTP of less than 100 is inexorable.

Whether this is true or not, I believe that even though RTP has an influence, it seems like luck still plays a role. Some people may believe that RTP means they can win easily, or that a high RTP pays out more frequently. It's up to each person to believe it or not. However, I recommend that you don't forget your limits when gambling based on the RTP, which some casinos display.
Play sensibly, because you'll win if you're lucky. This is especially true with slot games, where RTP is typically applied. However, remember that luck is a key factor in whether a player wins or loses.

You are pertaining to the theoretical RTP which is correct that it will not change since it’s the game design.

There’s also live RTP that determines the current winning percentage of the game since RTP is being calculated based on the total profit divided by total wager. So there’s a time that RTP will be lower or higher than the theoretical RTP but in long term it will always keep coming back to the theoretical RTP.

Live RTP is merely just a graphical representation on how the game performs on specific time frame since slot games doesn’t have a general betting history for all the rounds made by all player on specific game.

Thats what is called by "Live RTP" where the RTP is increased and/or decreased based on the global result of the slot.
I have ever seen Live RTP of a slot which was more than 1000% and since live RTP is something that I used to use to decide to which slot to play, I also tried the slot with higher live RTP.
Believe it or not, if you try games with live RTP which shows that high, the winning chance is better than those slot with live RTP lower than its default RTP.
But always be careful, when the Live RTP is so high, there are always 2 possibilities to happen when we play it.
First is that the RTP is still increasing or the RTP is in the process of going down.

At first when I was reading a thought maybe your percentage proportion was 80 percent and 20 percent, I dont think that any casino game has an RTP of 120%, that doesn't really exist...i don't know how you got this information though but that's not how slot game functions...ultimately this all depends on luck,a high rtp doesn't guarantee profit in a game, at the end of the day these are just theories

If possible it would be better for a total avoidances because whenever someone is playing and it seems nothing is happening it's keep boring the gambler. I love game that are less boring and whenever the amount allocation is exhausted I wouldn't mind funding again because I know that there is Joy and fun while playing it and must not solely rely on the outcome of the game rather enjoying the fun and having the cruise rolls along.

That's what I mean.

This is an example of Live RTP from Sportsbet and Razed.com

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/17/USeet1.png

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/08/17/USeqcm.png

It is even more than 100% which may seem unreasonable to some people, but it is actually shown in casinos.

I don't know about all the games but in one of the game I played, you can adjust the RTP percentage either by reducing it or by increasing it to the maximum, if it's at the maximum, there's high chance of losses and low chance of winning but if you are lucky, you can land on a big multiplayer and if you are unlucky you will also land on zero multiplayer. When I was playing the game, I was using 90% and I lost so much but when I reduced it to 50% I was able to recover some losses too. Therefore I think when you reduce your RTP, you can be lucky mostly than using the max limit.

I totally get it. It's kinda like a trap where you see that high RTP and think you've found a cheat code only to get slammed with losses depending on how lucky you are. RTP is more like a theoretical average over millions of spins and not necessarily a promise for your personal session.

The RNG is the deal since it makes every single spin a completely random and independent event. Sticking with a game you know and most importantly knowing when to walk away after a win is the real skill. RTP is just like a guide not a guarantee.

Nowadays casinos are started showing RTP for different time frames like last 1 day and last 7 day and I am not sure we have RTP for the last hour in any casino and if they had RTP of 120% or even 1000% is possible because RTP is what they paid out to the player in average from wagered amount so in case of one or few big wins can show a higher RTP but it doesn't necessarily mean everyone bet on the game won it.

The higher the number, doesn't increase the chance of an individual's winning percentage.

RTP does not affect the result of any individual spin; it is set to be the theoretical return to the player in the long term.  So, do not expect that because RTP is 120% it will give you an advantage; the rule still applies that the result in chance-based gambling games is defined by RNG.  To understand more about RTP, you can check these articles that tackles and explain the all about of RTP:
https://www.softswiss.com/knowledge-base/rtp-igaming-faq/
https://www.pokernews.com/casino/slots/what-is-slots-rtp.htm

Most of the slots nowadays are designed in a scripted way. With the never ending combinations of bonus buys and increased bet sizes for a better chance to spun bonus, decoding actual RTP is getting tougher, day by day.
I like to play those slots that have no inbuilt scripts and every spin has same probability. IMO, slots providers are taking some benefits form this 'try a million spins before judging' general approach.

You are probably the one who has misunderstood; even judging from the image you shared from both casinos, you will see how they ranked it with different colours. The higher RTP you see there is what occurred during the week or for the past month, not the winning possibility as you might think.

Exactly, the OP might have misunderstood what he saw at the casino and thought the 120 and above RTP is what that particular slot game and provider offers, not knowing that it's also possible to come across higher numbers that way, which only shows a 24-hour RTP. Sometimes it's up to that particular game's weekly RTP. I have seen a slot game that has a weekly RTP up to 246%. e.g., the image I will post below,
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/08/17/US0Tvb.jpeg

Of course there is no guaranteed win even if the RTP is that high. They're a casino and whether it's with the slots or any other games, there is no guarantee that we'll have 100% win.
Maybe that's what you are thinking and with the discovery that you did, it only shows that everything when we gamble is random including the results and it's no brainer on that part.
Slots have algorithm and designed to always make the house wins and if you're one of the lucky few to win for them to have some encouraging post to be made, you truly are lucky if that happens.

I think not everything depends on RTP because there is also a maximum multiplier. If it is very large, you will lose much more often. Why this is so will be easy to understand using the example of a coin or a bet in roulette red/black. In order to "return" the player's money (minus the margin), the casino must lose often enough, since the player only wins 100% of his bet. And even with an RTP of 80%, the casino must lose 40 bets out of 100. If a player has the opportunity to win not 100% of the bet, but for example a multiplier of x100, then this greatly shifts the balance of won/lost bets.

This whole RTP thing can be messy if you wanted to play by it...you find slots saying RTP of a slot is 96% but when you calculate everything of how it went down, it's actually difficult to quantify how one got to it without the game actually returning to the player... Otherwise for me I thing RTP goes hand in hand with a decent bankroll and how frequently it pays some good amounts.

Exactly like what I experienced before, I also tried gambling using RTP as the determining factor in which game I would choose. Of course, I always chose a high RTP percentage, close to 100%. But oddly, like what you experienced with OP, the results sometimes didn't match expectations. With such a high RTP percentage, the game should run very well, but when I tried it, the results were the opposite. There were no splits at all, my balance decreased drastically in a matter of seconds. After several attempts to play using RTP, I concluded that RTP does not guarantee a win at all.
I believe this is part of the manipulation by the casino to lure gamblers into playing games with high RTPs when the games actually run very poorly. So, there really is no way to guarantee a win except luck.

The wins are not guaranteed because you don’t know when it’s coming but RTP is all about making sure that the casino will just make you lose every time. If they could do that, they probably would so this is just to regulate them as said.

I enjoy slot gambling, and many local online casinos I've found offer RTPs for each game. However, in my slot gambling career, I've never used this as a benchmark, unlike my friend, who always relies on it. Before gambling, he'll look for games he likes by comparing which ones have the highest RTPs. If he's already in a game and has a bad spin, he'll go back and check the RTPs.
I personally don't pay much attention to this, as I rely more on luck.

Yes, The results per slot game session will still depend on the RNG (Random Number Generator)
and the RTP will not always guarantee a profit to the player even if the Casino only takes a small profit if the RTP is high.

For example, the average RTP of legal casinos is 96% and the profit for the casino or House edge is only 4% per session.
But of course if players continue to play non-stop they will lose all their money if there is no management set up to play.
Like when they have got the jackpot and it doesn't stop, here RNG will work so that in the end they will lose that win again and it will be difficult to get the jackpot back,
long-term odds will return the results to the → RTP statistics so that big profits are often lost if they don't stop in time.

And be careful also with new casinos that offer high RTPs, But the casino is Illegal and does not have a certificate,
it is just manipulation and high RTP will not work because the Illegal casino platform will only give profits to the bookmaker only.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/08/18/USlD9j.png

"Winning is easy, the difficult thing is to stop after winning."

The thing is that if there is Randomness in the game, and I mean a chance of winning of only a few percent, then you will never be sure that you will get a lucky result.
Because the theory of probability allows that even if the slots have a 99% chance of winning, it can ruin absolutely any gambling session.
After all, mathematically this one percent can work over and over again regardless of the results of previous outcomes. And this means that you can lose again and again, a second, third, fourth, fifth time. This will be an absolutely acceptable outcome. Even if it is very unlikely.

IIRC game providers don’t allow the casino to specifically modify the RTP on their own. They can only request to adjust it on max RTP as much as possible but not to decrease it below the theoretical RTP set by the provider.

Casino just list slot games while slot provider itself is still the one in control on the game specifics.

I’m not sure if there’s casino that fake RTP of slot games maybe on their game display only.

Is there really anything like an RTP of of 120%, I don't know where you got your facts from.i don't really pay much attention to all these because I believe that the game of slots and evey other casino game is all about taking risks and getting lucky, you can either end up winning or losing. You must understand that RTP doesn't guarantee your win everytime you spin, no matter how high the percentage might be it won't increase the chances of winning

When you play at centralized casinos, the RTP rates disclosed to you are never real.
Don't believe figures like 95% stated in the game's description section.

The site owner can change the RTP rates from the admin panel.

There was a time when decentralized casinos on the tron chain were common, but they didn’t become popular.

As I said before, Casinos that fake RTPs are like Illegal casinos that don't get audited and those casinos are free to fake their RTPs,
saying that RTP is high but in fact it's all in the program to lose and only take advantage of all the players.
It is quite common and there is a lot of news about cheating committed by Illegal casinos.

RTP only demonstrates the theoretical returns per party and not per session. Do not think that a game with 120 percent RTP will allow you to make a profit immediately since randomness will always be against you. I think the overall lesson would be that slots are to be approached like entertainment and when you are fortunate enough to recover or win, knowing when to stop is always the wisest of decisions.