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i hav been casualy checking out different crypto gambling platforms in my leisure time and one thing that keeps crossing my mind is the whole skill vs luck debate. Most games feel like pure coincidence or straight-up voodoo luck  ::) ::) ::)… but some PvP formats like crash battles,, coinflip duels or certain dice arenas actually seem like they might give you a chance to outplay other players if you actualy  have the the right timing or strategy to begi with...

Alot of these platforms pop up for me when i visit free to earn faucet sites and honestly the smooth graphics and mobilefriendly setups make it tempting to explore.... It feels way more engaging than the older setups out there..

here iss even my big question???? which crypto gambling games on these fast growing platforms do you think actually test someone’s mental skills nd which are just normal luck dressed up fancy???

And can games like crash or duels be even considered as skill-based in any way..?????

is poker still the traditional king of skill gambling or do these new PvP games deserve that label now that th wave seems to be rising in a craziii momentum.???

And one more thing is there really any platforms where skill really makes a difference ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D??

Gambling is like that, dont get it twisted to believe that tou can win any game with your skills, despite that some few games like pokers that seems skill base but yet those that have knowledge still know that to win pokers game you need to depend on luck regardless of your skills, so take it as all risk and you only win based on luck and chances that are calculated by you, that os the reason we advice that tou only gamble with an amount you can afford to lose.

There are many skill based games that tests the gamblers mental abilities. The most notable of them is poker. This forum have seen increase in poker related activities, so you can easily join one of the contests and compete with other players to stand a chance of winning fantastic prices. Check the Games and Rounds board for some of the ongoing poker contests.

Sports and Esports will be my top skill based gambling game. It heavily depends on your understanding of the game and ability to do calculated research on the upcoming games.

Another option will be any other game that involves playing against other players like poker. You have to employ some level of skill to be able to win against one or more other opponents.

If it's a skill based game, it doesn't matter what the platform is, skill will make a difference.

The games that really test the skills and strategy are sports betting because you have to understand some skills and strategies to play. And the second game I will say is poker game. In poker game you use your skills over others who are not good with it. Though there are some skills slot games and crash games also use some very little skills of the Play which the player must know when to hit the play button.

I agree with you that games improve mental skills, as you have said, but I want you to believe that no amount of skills you have acquired can always give you a win every time. This is why we should always gamble for fun, then if our skills shine on us to make a win, then it is a blessing for us.  I just wanted to let you know that you can avoid ads that pop up on websites you visit, as you never can tell what the outcome would look like when you download it. These days, ads come with malware, and as we all know, we have been seeing reports of ads with apps centered being developed to steal information from people so be careful the ads you click and the apps you download from such ads link.

I don't think that crash can be considered a skill-based because it leans more towards luck. But no doubt if you're talking about poker, it's going to test your mentality and as well as skills. The same with sports betting, this requires also not just luck but pure skills. I think someone can get triggered, become emotional, and have a mental breakdown through those luck based games, crash, slots, dice, and other of the same.

I consider it part of mental skill. Focus and attention are essential components of mental skill. Games like Crash Game or duels are battles of mental toughness, and any other games that require displaying focus and attention fall into this category.

Gamblers, even if it’s a luck-based game, will try to analyze and come up with their own choice of methods, so any casinos that offer challenging games, I consider it a mental skill, but in sports betting its where all the aspects of mental skills show up. In contrast, in luck-based games, it’s the other aspects. 

Nah, I don't think that the games have change a lot since the inception of online gambling. Which means as per your observation, poker is still the king of skill gambling. There's no one that can challenge them even if there is this somewhat PvP games that has been making waves.

The thing with Poker is that it's really that addicted to test yourself against the skills of others. And as what we have seen, there are tournaments that bring a lot of money so there are upcoming players that might think that this could be their career of becoming the best poker player and again, challenge a lot of skills player and see how your skills will match against them.

Right timing for what? The result of each round is completely random while the right timing can’t be done accurately since you don’t have any basis or sign for your decision.

It’s all about luck and that’s not considered as skills if you are relying to the unknown to win.


Poker is the best game to test your mental skills since you are battling against other player using same skills.

Poker and sports betting are two types of gambling where you really get challenged mentally. You’ve probably heard of professional poker players or professional sports bettors,  they use the word professional because these are games where a gambler can actually develop skills and strategies.

On the other hand, there are games that rely purely on luck, like roulette or slots. You’ll never see someone called a “pro” roulette player, because no strategy will ever work in your favor on that kind of game.

I agree on this two, we have several threads discussing that this is a skill base and we have to use our brains to outwit and beat our opponent in poker. And that's why many love that game. On the other hand, in sports betting, if we are a avid fan and have been following that sports for years then we have acquired enough knowledge already. With that, we bet on let's say NBA games base on the team that we likely see going to win because on many factors. Factors that we have understand and we came to knowledge because we have been watching that sports in years.


Roulette, slot games, dice. They are really luck base games and we are not mentally challenge by them. Simply that we have the money to bet and see how our luck goes. Maybe there were days that we will win huge multiplier but most of the times, we are in negative value and has a losing streak.

Gambling is gambling and could tempt. Gambling tests really your mental skills no matter where you play gambling. If you lose, your mental will be tested to see how good you control yourself. If you don't have good control, you will follows your passion and not cares about your losses. We see many people fall because of gambling but they don't realize this.

All gambling platforms are just places to get entertainment. But it seems people use it for another reason and could causes them to have many problems. If you don't want to get the same, you should not have a goal to make money from gambling. Otherwise, you will lose much money.

Most crypto games are still largely luck-based , slots, roulette, limbo, etc. PvP games like crash battles or coinflip duels can involve some strategy and timing, but luck still plays a big role.

Poker remains the king of skill-based gambling , psychology, probability, and bankroll management determine long-term winners, while these new crypto PvP games offer only a small window for skill.

They also are based on luck, crash and dice games, while as PvP game I would only consider crash between the two, it is still a game of luck as I have tried a lot of so called strategies in Youtube and they all had something in common, none of them worked out. I also tried to be smart and waited a lot of very small multipliers and then started doing some rounds as normally a big multiplier was going to hit but that also did not happen at all, quite the opposite in fact, low multipliers kept rolling like crazy. So in luck games there is not much one can do though for true PvP game I would call only Poker as there skill is much more relevant than luck and there the right patience can make a true difference.

I agree with what you said. We know and agree that this type of poker game requires skill, which can be said to increase the chances of winning. However, luck is still involved, so no matter how good your skills are, they will be defeated if luck isn't on your side. It's the same with other forms of gambling that require skill. However, I believe all forms of gambling involve luck. Forcing yourself to gamble continuously won't make you better, so it's true that gambling within your means is the best advice.

Crash is not a skill based game. There is no way one could predict the next outcome. There's a general idea that after several low bust, there should be better busts but the problem is one random very high bust could change that in single turn.
PvP games and Poker are similar. Poker is a more extensive and complex PvP game. Here you need to have idea about how your opponent plays and have a strategy to fool him her. By strategy, it doesn't only mean bluffing, you should know when to fold, how to make your opponent believe you have a weak hand when you have better and in some case, make him believe you don't bluff while you occasionally do.

Sports betting could also be considered a mental skill but it is more on analytic side.

You don’t need a casino game to test your mental skills. If you want to go that way play chess or similar games that asks for serious brain juice. You can play them online against real opponents and you don’t have to pay any money. It is better to play casino games to have fun imo. Some people make a mistake and think they could make a living out of gambling but that’s equally wrong. Just treat gambling the same way you treat a theater ticket. Once you got your fun, forget about it till you need it again. That’s how it works with drinking and smoking too.

Voodoo luck? I strongly doubt that, luck is luck, and those people who tried to use voodoo to alter the balance of things paid dearly for it. It's a strong Karma for cheating the world balance, at least in my understanding and experience.

Poker game will always be my number one answer here. I hope it can be better developed fairly and better advertised for those who are not really gambling-oriented to know about it and challenge their skills.

Both Crash and Duel games can be arguably considered skill-based, but this can still be challenged at the same time, especially depending on the kind of games we are talking about. A few coding glitches could also alter this disposition.

Still poker. As long as you are playing against real people and not AI or bots.

Except for poker, I think next to it will be Crash games or Aviator. Not really a skill-based game or an analysis game, but it's a discipline game. Those who can be content with little profit can make some money here. You have the control to stop the bet and take some profits, and you can also decide when to bet. If you feel like there's a losing streak that might happen, you can just take a pass and bet on the next set.

I don't know those new games, but poker and sports betting would be the classics, yes. You can be doing everything right, even at weak tables where you have several players who are worse than you, and still face a long losing streak. That's why when you study poker in schools, an important part is psychology, so you can cope with bad streaks, as well as good ones, because sometimes when you get extraordinarily positive results, you get overconfident and do things you shouldn't.

Poker is the highly skilled game that is fun when playing it because when you lack the skill and your don't have those lucky picks, you will be like a someone who is lost in the desert because you will only be on losing your bet.

However, luck superceed skills in gambling because we only have a few gamblers who are skill were able to be successful in using skills wisely to earn profits from gambling but the rest became losers in the long run.

I think where every mental skill is employed is in sports betting from my experience, you  take your time to analyze the sports properly to making good picks that may convert for you. A good understanding of the sports would hand you a better success at analyzing possible outcomes and placing the bets. I don't think casino based games are a true test of mental skills, the test I've passed on casino based games are emotional tests that comes with maintaining responsible gambling. since I do not play poker, whenever I want to engage myself mentally on the casino, I go for soccer betting.

I personally think any game that needs strategy is skill skill-based game. Slots cannot be considered skill-based games because all you have to do is spin and wait for the result. But I think most in-house games like Dice, Mines, Crash that's need some kind of strategy, is skill skill-based games. You need a good strategy, and you have to know when to increase the bet amount, when to decrease it, and when you should stop gambling. You need to know when you have to adjust the multiplier. A lot of things are involved in this game. But if you talk about game that needs more skills, that is poker. But yes, you need luck as well.

I also agree with your statement that there is a thin line between the games which are simply based on luck and games which can be strategized. All about slot are about randomness, therefore, the choices of a player are irrelevant. By comparison, games such as Crash or Mines make us calculate the moment when we should stop so that no more is lost. Another dimension that is played in poker is reading their opponents and managing emotions. You are correct in that luck also comes into effect, but the power to make the correct choice of decisions is almost huge. It can be assumed that games basing on skills can provide more concrete learning experience to the individuals playing.

Well, you can say you need some skills in these games to win, that’s on you, but you can’t deny the fact that all the games mentioned have a house edge. That means we’re already at a disadvantage every time we spin, so there’s really no way to win in the long run.

If we’re talking about applying real skills, then it should be on games that aren’t under this category. Otherwise, we’re just betting with the wrong belief, thinking there’s a formula to beat an unwinnable game, when the truth is the house edge will always kill that idea.

Yeah Bro, thatx exactly the confusion i keep circling back to myself  ;D Poker is obviously the OG when it comes to skill, but with these newer formats it feels like the line is gradually becomin blurry. take crash for example timing feels like skill, but the outcome is still pure chance if you realy break it down.... maybe the skil part is more about controlling your own emotions and exit strategy than actually influencing the end result! do you thnk that still counts as real skill or is it just a smarter way of handling possible luck..???

If you want to play games that realistically hovers over your mental ability with no chance of lucks and no house edge, I will direct you to physical boardgames like the Chess where lucks are emitted to crown a winner based on their skillful formations against their opponents in the game.

Although there are still skilful games featured by the casinos like the Poker, Roulette and the few likes but since they are elements of the machines games, they are not fully attributed to checkmate players abilities on the fair ground without giving the house edge some advantageous privilege which means, there is still a resort of luck required to win.

Games like baccarat, poker, and blackjack still test or requires a gamblers skill for success, not that luck is not needed, it is but skill also gives an edge for players who are highly skilled in the game. The crash and dices game that you made reference to are highly luck based games which doesn't necessarily needs skill to make steady wins but the other ones I mentioned requires skills but there are many luck based games than skill based.

Yes, poker is totally a game of skill because when you are not familiar with it, you will be like a novice and that is how you would be losing more and more, honestly poker game is fun and entertain when you have the basic skills.

Of course when it comes to gambling luck have the besic role in determining the final outcome, that is the simple truth about it because there is no skill or strategy that can easily guarantee you winnings in gambling. It is only when the luck is on your side that you can easily get a win, without that nothing else.

some crypto games are purely based on your luck, while the others allow you to flex your strategy. Crash games aka Aviator are primarily RNG, but there is room to skill up your risk management, using autobets & when to cash out. Poker & blackjack really pay to be intelligent, whereas slots or coinflip luck fests do not. Poker is still the king of skill, crash throws a little timing advantage, but most of the games are entirely luck with awesome graphics, bruh.

Maybe we just only have to understand that the gambling choice is made base on our understanding of what the type of game we are playing is, we need to know that there is is a probability of winning or losing which is the usual and common thing we had with gambling, then we need to be more specific about the way the idea of luck and skill affects the game we choose to play in gambling as well, because each may have to fall under either of luck or skill category in gambling.

Especially you first understand the meaning of gambling and games, where the average crypto gambling platform provides the same game, only different colors, logos and bonuses, you don't need to test, almost the average crypto casino challenges gambler mental capabilities.

This means that there is no type of game that you play free from the radar, you are always in the winning and losing article, what else is the type of crash game, that's really you challenged by your mentality.
For that whatever type of game you play, there is no bargaining you are great to win and you are unlucky losing, it's a real challenge.

There may be skill-based games but I don't think there is anything skill-based here, as I usually participate in Sportsbetting. If the strengths and weaknesses of two teams can be identified, then it is certainly easier to place bets based on the team's performance. In this case, skill or any other strategy is not used. But there are other sectors where skill is definitely needed, like if you consider poker, skill is definitely needed there. And it can be guaranteed that a skilled person will benefit here.

No, you don't, since you have absolutely no decision on the outcome at all.
There is no skill involved in a predetermined game; you could as easily bet against somebody in a virtual match, it has nothing to do with actual betting on a real-world soccer match.
All you're doing here is trying to be luckier than the other guy, not outrunning the bear but outrunning at least someone else!


What skill is involved in betting on roulette?  ::)

Everyone who is into gambling already knows that any of those casino games that you play against other people will test your mental skills and those that you play on your own without a competitor will has no mental pull on you. With regards to poker, even though I do not play it that often, it is above all the gambling game of that requires the application of different skills compared to the new PvP games.

Skill based games so far dominated by card games liked poker and sport betting it because people cannot rely on their luck to gets the better results while playing these games so, skill and experience is necessary but if speaking about what games test the mentality and skill i will awarded to poker game and i am sure those who playing poker regularly will agree with this opinion

Because while playing poker the people will feel their mental tested especially when you playing poker PvP or big poker tournament which we will faced different opponents who always be bluffing and they will attempts to make our mental down with their mind game so i am sure during the games we will feel under pressure and besides skill and luck certainly strong mentality also necessary to be the winner

Compared to the PvP casino games you mentioned, poker is so far ahead when it comes to mental skills needed if you want to be good at the game and to be honest, I don't think the PvP games you mentioned would ever come close to the mental skill needed in poker. Also, as others have mentioned, sports betting is up there, too, as you need analytical skills if you want to be good at it.

You are right to an extent, but base on my own intake about this, i think irrespective of the way we paly our bet, either against each other or against the casino does not matter, they are all brain teasing games, lets look on how playing a sport betting is, you have to be more tactical and calculative on the performance of a particular team before choosing an option on it for betting, same applies to some other games, which we may either play alone or with other players, whereby our mental reasonings' and decisions go a long way, except for slot games in my own opinion.

Poker stands out when considering games that requires skills. Blackjack also require some level of mental work to win games. Your ability to analyse and predict game outcomes will be tested to with sports betting. In sports betting a gamble will have to identify the strength, weakness, threat and opportunity of teams he intends to bet on.

In modern day gambling, there are more games, like the ones you mentioned in your post, that rely on luck. They are luck based and do not require any skill or reading because you can't do anything; you just flip and wait for what luck brings to you. In my view, poker is a game that is not luck based but purely skill-based, or it can be called a strategic game. A person can develop the best strategy by making good five card hands and reading the opponents. It's not luck, instead, it's your skill and experience, and that is the real pure skill based game now.

Any game we open will be unknown, but over time, a certain skill is developed, which many may call dexterity in a game that requires mental abilities. However, if we really talk about skills in gambling, then poker and sports betting, one way or another, require an analytical mindset. Of course, the main factor of success will always be luck, but with some experience, everything together adds up positively in the results of the games.

Nope, crash relies heavily on luck. Your chances of winning aren't determined by you.

To this day, poker remains the only skill based game. With a low hand, you can win by bluffing or using any strategy you choose. So, your chances of winning are entirely yours.

Well, I think many members have already mentioned that there are games like poker that are skill-based, and perhaps some mental skills are included, but not in a way that requires super mental strength. Maybe something similar to chess is what I'm thinking of, and this would fall into the category of skill-based.

I don't think there are really any games that test real skill when it comes to gambling.  Maybe blackjack or texas holdem?  If there were a way to gamble based on skill, I'm sure it would only be a matter of time before someone finds a way to exploit it. 

For me personally, the only gambling I ever feel that is somewhat skill based is gambling on sporting events.  At least you can use your knowledge of the game and the matchups to try and make an educated decision about the bet.  With slots you just pull a lever and hope for the best...

I believe you are giving gambling some expectations which you should not, to be honest with you. Even in games which have a player versus player setting, the lucky gambler who manages to get all the money in the end would not get it because of skill, but rather because he happened to be luckier than his foe, that's all.
What is the skill behind rolling a dice, for example? There is none, and even on games like blackjack there is little to be done to increase the chances of winning, just some risk management when comes to asking more cards or hold your hand.

Of someone tells you there is a skill based game on a casino which you could master in order to earn money consistently out of it, then that person would be lying to you.
The only exception are irl poker tournaments.

I think you are just trying to convince yourself that they are casino games that can be profitable with skills but I would advice you to take your mind off it. Skills can't really make a difference. You made mention of timing, thats actually luck and not really a function of skills. Games like crash or duels are very much based on luck and there are no strategies you can come up with that can put you in profit In that long run

I agree with you. There is a saying that the house always wins. That is what we believe, and I know for a fact that you cannot beat the house in the long run. The best strategy in the world will have to end up with some losing streaks, which will eventually bust the player. Most people say that 2x is the best strategy ever. Well, we lose in 2x, and the losing streaks in 2x could be way longer than we think.

If you talk about Poker, yep, I agree that it is a skill-based game, and you can win if you have a good knowledge of it. I recently learned how to play poker and played my first game a few weeks ago. So, I am not good at poker at all. I usually play those in-house games, and I think these require some skills as well.

Most casino games are designed to give you the illusion of choice, make you feel like you have special skills or how you interact with a game might give you an advantage. They are likely to tell you straight up the odds, even if it is in the small print, but will also do plenty of things to try and distract you from that reality. You might argue that a game like blackjack gives you some control over the outcome and if you know the basics you are likely to lose money slower than a novice, but unless you are able to count cards (which the casinos can figure out and ban you from) then you will not win. The only time you're likely to win a skilled game over the long term is by playing versus other players and simply being better at the game than them, the most obvious example is poker.

Poker is the king of showing off skills, apart from that, it only relies on luck, no matter how good we are at making strategies in all games except poker, it will end in defeat, unless you have a lot of money that always doubles the total bet, even that is not a guarantee

You made mention of crash games, if there are any casino games that involves skills these games are certainly not one of them...mental skills don't actually work when it comes to casino games, focusing too much on how to be in profit when playing casino games is only going to make you lose..Apart from poker games i don't think there are any other games that you can apply skills and even this isn't a hundred percent sure

On gambling nothing will make you to stand the chances of wining, theirs something I understand in gambling, even though you peruse into a poker platform and study it severally that can't give the edges of winning, except that you're emphasising on the aspects of the contest, in a contest theirs every tendency that someone can win, but aspects of gambling, it's difficult you people who is celebrating wining on gambling and that makes me to think otherwise.

I think it the game that test a mental skill are sports/esports betting and poker, since they both need us to use our mental capacity to analyze the possible outcome of the game (for sports/esports betting) and our wit to out perform our opponent in poker.


I do not think crash can be considerd a skill based game since it result is calcuated through RNG.  One cannot implement observation in this game because it would be too late to react and cash out when the round ends.  While duel is dependent on which game they are duelling.  If they duel on a luck type game then it is not but if they duel on skill-based game then it is.


I think there is,  platforms that hosts poker games and sports betting.

I only see sports betting and all card games as the only games that depend on skill. The rest are based on luck, but I don't see a problem with that because everyone has the option to choose what they like to play. If you want to play only games that depend on luck because you believe you'll get lucky one day

then you don't need to make an effort to learn card games or sports betting. For example, I don't know anything about poker, which is why I don't get involved with poker. I prefer to stick to sports betting because it's something I enjoy. I can spend hours analyzing a game and never get tired of it.

I agree, I am mostly into both of them and I can attest that predicting a game requires research before you make sure you chose the right one. That's why sports bettors are also having hard time in predicting games because we don't know what can happen in the very last second before the games happen. It's a big factor that can change the outcome of the game and the result of our bets.

They are not skill-based, but they measure mental toughness. Knowing when and how to stop is considered a measure of your toughness and quick decision-making. Poker and sports bets are mental skills-based games; you cannot just sit there and follow the flow.
In poker, you need a set of strategies both internally and externally. In sports betting, you need to compile stats, conduct a comparison check, weigh the odds, and continue checking before coming up with one final verdict. Sometimes, this process can be mentally draining.

Most crypto gambling is just chance dressed up with slick graphics slots, roulettes, dice, all luck. The only spots where skill really matters are poker (still the best for me this is mixture of luck and strategy) and a few PvP modes like crash battles or coinflip duels, where timing and reading opponents can give you a small edge. Still, luck carries most of the weight, so if you want real skill based gambling, poker is where it’s at. You need timing and bluffing skills and analysing on potential cards of your opponent too.

I think sports betting still fits in the description, with a better understanding of the teams concerned you can have some mental analytics of the possible outcomes, you can choose a selection on a possible outcome with a higher accuracy and your picks may vary across games if you're going for a multiplier based on your knowledge about those teams and your analysis on the definite outcome possible for each match. It involves lots on mental calculations and research, sometimes even discussions among your peers to get more helpful information that would aid in your selections.

Yeah, it can be said that slots are entirely RNG but Blackjack and poker are not RNG games but they actually require skill alongside the luck. Blackjack has a 99%+ RTP with basic strategy, and card counting can even shift the odds to your favour.  Poker is a different monster where the best players always gain a profit, and skill contributes between 25-75% to the result.  Sports betting is also skill-based but these card games are not as much about chance as you might think.

It's really capable of testing one's mental skills and capacity.Its requires patience,risks control and emotional balancing.Several other factors are required too to strengthen their psychological evaluation and strengths.

Apparently, skill as I know is an essential tools in gambling and whenever you are that skillful in the game you loves playing them it gives you that basic edge to easily win when playing real games, those skills can be inverted into making real money from gambling but even as that we can't do away with luck in gambling as luck is what mostly determines your winning and of course your skills gives you that opportunity to be at the positive side of winning but does not guaranteed your winning.

To be frankly speaking, it's literally not the platform you gamble on that guarantees winning when gambling, but rather the game played that can determine if you will either win or lose, depending on your skill, because almost all casinos have similar kinds of games on all platforms. And as such, Sport games such as football, basketball and MMA where skill plays an important role.



Gambling generally is equally a tool to test one's mental well-being, most especially when a user gambles and yet fails to fall addicted to it, simply because he already had a principle not to gamble irresponsibly

Both poker, blackjack, baccarat, chess and sport requires the skill for the player to have an edge of winning, though luck is still very much needed but with good skill the those games you can have an edge. You explanation about the ability to identify the strength of two teams in order to know the ones that will win, that's a skill that doesn't come naturally but one has to be constantly studying the different teams they have interest on so that they can know their strengths and how to make their bets.

In gambling, luck is king. Even if you're skilled, remember that the house always wins, otherwise it would be the end for any casino, whether online or offline.
Imagine several "talented" players who manage to consistently break the bank. Sooner or later, a casino will lose money and close. Therefore, it's based on the probability of winning percentages that completely random players can guess from the thousands of bets made daily.
In essence, to simplify, 10 out of 1,000 bets will yield a profit, and these 10 bets may not necessarily go to the same person.

There’s some gambling games that is based on skills such as pokers that you are battling against players instead of the casino. This is probably the best gambling games that fit to the OP description of game actually test mental skills.

Casino is indeed won’t allow someone winning continuously, Either they will ban the player or restrict them to play assuming he is so lucky on all casino games that beats the house edge.

But that scenario is just so rare since all casino games is designed for house to win consistently due to the odds set on their games is heavily in favor to casino.

I do not play Poker, but i have heard from a lot of people that it requires some good skills to be successful in it. I play football betting and slots, i believe slots is just about luck, you are not going to spin with any kind of skill, will you. As for football betting, knowledge of football helps, i would not call it a skill, but if you know a lot about the league, their teams and you follow up on team news and stuff like that, it would slightly increase your chances of making a correct bet.

Most casinos get their games from the few same providers so there's really not much difference unless the casino decides they want to cost you extra for fees or whatnot. But you just have to check the game providers and you can see their percentage they have for winning rate.
Mental skills encompasses different kinds of things. Discipline is a mental skill but so is strategy making which both can be helpful while gambling. Some may be good at other mental skills while not so good with other parts of mentality.

I'd say that, in a sense, any gambling tests one's mental skills. Even if it's something like slots or dice, one still needs to be patient, to keep emotions under control, to not overspend and to avoid chasing losses.  All of this has an impact on how much is spent on gambling, so it's important to consider. Division into luck-based and skill-based gaming simplifies what's really going on.

If I wanted to test my mental abilities, I would play chess. But there is no desire to worry your head if you just want to rely on luck. Even in betting, sometimes it's not so insulting to lose if you bet without much thought. And I very much doubt that mental abilities or skills can determine the outcome of crash gambling.

That's true, before you win more of your bets in poker game, you really need to be skilled because if you are not skilled enough and you are gambling against players that understands the game more than you do, you will lose your money. I don't understand the game very well and it's not as fun as other of my favorite games, that's why I don't  even give so much attention to learning about it. Sports betting and other slot games are enough to fill the fun I desire from gambling.

Have you not come across some slots gamblers who claim that they have discovered a pattern that has given them winning streaks? They claim that these games require some level of skill to win consistently. I am also a committed sports bettor but I play slots when some sports leagues are on break. I have not been able to learn these winning patterns in slots. I agree that poker requires some level of intelligence, while sports betting needs some analytical skills, but in my opinion, slots depend on luck 

Poker is a game of mental skill not just gambling with cards. Aside from understanding the game, you need to have the skills in bluffing your opponent to gain the advantage.

From what I know, even a bad hand can make you win if you can make other players fold their set of cards. There are also poker tournaments held in some countries where professional players play for a living.

There are many games that test one's mental skills, generally all skill based games like poker, sports betting and others. But the one that caught my attention lately is mines. Mines may seem like a luck based game but there is some measure of mental skill that is involved in the game. There is a way you can work your way around the game that you can spot a pattern and use that to have little edge.

If I must say, you hit it at the right spots because every single gambling games is played with a critical mindset our considering the different factors before taking a decision and it does not matter if it is a game of chance or lucks.

We may have been saying that the slot games is determined by the RTP which basically does not require skills but yet, that fact that we keep calculative focused on the game at what decision to take is some worth mental tests to be precised.

If we also talk about that of sport bet as football, it is an abundant skillful measures because doing your research and analysing the teams and key factors are all form as using your brains to do the works. So, I support your insight that every gambling games is effective to mental skills.

I do always consider one of the best is the card games or any kind of table top games such as the Blackjack and Poker also if you want some analytics and strategy base game to make you thrill is use with the sports betting and e-sports because those games are also base on the numbers and skills of the player if you are active and enthusiast with the sports, well its a chance base too because a mistake can really change the outcome of the game.

I think I agree with you because gambling games test gamblers mental skills. If he can manage his emotions, he will not lose control and enjoy the games. He can manage his fund and know how much money he can spend. He will not try much if he loses for some rounds before because he realizes that his losses can become big. He will simply leave the casino without hesitation because his experience is enough for this day. So all gambling games can test our mental skills. Usually, people will be angry or sad if they lose and they want to recover their losses.

Apart from poker online chess games can also test your mental skills and increase your tactical approach to calculations. puzzles are also a good one, but poker games have been proven to be the best when it comes skill games. A friend of mine said he is good when it comes to card games in real life I.e when playing with others and he claimed that he hasn't lost a game before but it's hard to win the same game in online casinos

Sport betting can be the easiest if someone just pick based on the odds. But it can be the hardest when someone know the game from top to bottom and they can go with years of stats to find the best possible outcome and merely unlimited combinations they can try and test to find which one will be the best. But still it doesn't guarantee a win that is the beauty of gambling.

PVP is still a thing? It may look like skill plays a role but it depends on the game and for a casino as a business it is not going to generate much revenue for them compared to house.

I agree that most PvP games test one person mental skills, like patience and the ability to read other people choices for example in poker yet for me it is completely different. For me the real test is when I am playing slot machines and in the middle of the heat be it winning or losing, well more losing because in winning no mental skill is really involved, the ability to change direction, to change your bet, to change your game and all of these decisions to bring you a massive win, now this is what I call a true mental skill test despite not looking like it and looking like all because of luck, as they say though luck only favors the bold and in such condition I believe it was a true test of mental skill put in place. Of course it is more PvP games but for me remains the decisions you make while playing slots.

I think crash or aviator is included in mental skill games.

You need to able to hold your breath and finger to stop the rocket, you also shouldn't press too earlier. It's really a mental game, if you can't control your mental, you will just trolling on the game, like you don't give a fuck about anything.

The other games like PVP, poker, etc are less mentally skill because you can still rest a little bit to think about the decision you want to made.

Based on the words, "Mental" means relating to the mind, while "Skill" means an ability to perform an activity. So, we can probably conclude that it means the ability to perform an activity related to the mind. So, related to our discussion this time, it relates to gambling or betting that involves the mind. Personally, I feel that all types of gambling can test mental skills. Some gambling games, such as sports games and slot games, I think this also applies. If your question is "Which one is testing mental skills the most?", then my answer is sports games, because they require quite complex analysis for me to win.

By the way, here is my reference : Dictionary.Cambridge.org - Mental Skill
 (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/example/english/mental-skill)

Games which test someone's skills aren't popular in gambling. There are some alternatives like chess and e-sports, but you don't see gamblers going for it too often when compared to luck based games. Moreover, most popular gambling platforms don't offer skill based games to their public, and that is probably due to the fact there isn't demand for it.

From what I see, people want brainless games where they don't have to think a lot in order to play, neither to make effort or to be patient. As you can see, most popular gambling games work that way.

That's right mate. Many games are actually a mental skills games because you calculate to know the kind of pattern to use betting on the game so you can win the games but at some points even though you are skilful about the game you still lose. I normally play mine games and most times I lose while I also win sometimes. The patterns I use is that I bet with $1 at first and but I lose that round I will look closely were the red bombs are then I will try my best to avoid it.

There are games that test a gamblers skill or thinking capacity and I prefer to bet on such games because they don't just base on making profit or winning it can also help you develop your cognitive reasoning. These type of games can be very challenging and not everyone is interested in such games because of how difficult it is to win from. The best options for these games are chess games and poker

Only sport betting games test mental skills to get the results based on that, no matter how lucky you think you are in casino games, t's not based on strategy but pure luck all the times. Crash winning are purely based on luck as well.

Poker is only that game aside from sport betting which needs mental intelligence to scale through because you are brainstorming with the other colleagues, that's why.

Every gambling game I have ever played have all tested my mental skills. I can’t name a single game that won’t test your mental skills.
My specialty in gambling is sport betting and before I can stake a game I have to tap into my mental space to be able to come up with something worth betting on.

Even slots? Have you ever seen the image of old people pressing the button to roll like they are zombies without any reason to live? You don't need any mental skill to do that not even need any mental activity othe than to repeat the same clicking every second

The most obvious answer is poker and blackjack because you can do more than just press a button and try your luck. For other games like slots and dice you can say there is some mental skills to control your bank roll, but this is hardly a mental skill.

That's because there isn't enough dopamine hits when you are doing something that requires a lot of thinking and time. For quick games on casinos you can have a lot more addrenaline because the stakes are high and you can just wait until the result comes a few seconds later.

these are the basic thing that we have to know, but some people does not believe that winning gambling is not being determined by your skills but is being determined by luck or opportunity at that moment, is gambling meaning is all about by profession or by your practice I think by now nobody would have been complaining of losing in gambling and many people would have used a gambling to become a billionaire in life, but due to you cannot study gambling everyday and the every hour and the continue winning from gambling constantly, that is why we need to understand that the gambling is something that you need to apply knowledge when involving yourself into and you also need to gamble with what you can afford to lose to avoid frustration in your life knowing that the gambling is not sure wining

But saying football gambling does not need any skill kinda undersells it 🤔

Sports betting exists in a gray area, fortune can be cruel in the short-term, but skill can turn the game in the long run. The real advantage comes due to deep research, analysis, financial discipline & specialization. It is one thing to flip through the odds or even team names, but to stay consistent is another dimension of avoiding chasing thoughts.

Yea, poker is actually a very interesting game that is mostly about skill, the professionals of these games have  viewers bet on them to win against their opponent, if you don't know how to play the game, then you should try the other many games of luck and maybe you can have a great luck but if you want to try luck in a game of skill, your chance of winning are small.

We think that every game makes mental ability available , or just by knowing its nature , which is purely luck, we are already Understanding that it is not just strategy and that Everything is focused on knowing how to manage our money For me , this is the most Intelligent , sensible and Truly good way to generate complete Ability.

For me, I think poker and blackjack are some of the gambling games that do test our mental skill, and sports betting too since it a type of gambling game that have us doing some critical thinking, carrying out different degrees of research and comparing one team with another.

Games like crash isn't skill based, I haven't played any duel games but I know some of the games in this category will turn out to be pure luck based and other skill based, but I won't count it as skill based since I've not seen and confirmed. Crash game itself is not a skilled based game but a pure luck based game because the gambler ultimately does nothing other place a bet and wait for the car or whatever to move, then you take profit when and where ever you feel is good before the car crashes, this games (though interesting) doesn't have anything to do with mental skill.

One game I personally believe is a true definition of a game that challenges our mental ability and skill of reasoning is Chess, but unfortunately, this game is not available to play on casinos.

The combination of many reasons contained in ourselves decides how exactly we perceive the game and what actions we take, which in turn will lead us to total losses or wins. I have long ago formed for myself the rules by which I play and do not want to make crazy bets to win back quickly, counting on luck. I am constantly trying to improve strategies, adjust my money management, and control of emotions has become the easiest, because before that I made all the mistakes that are simply possible. I am also motivated by observing professionals, but in general all this is pointless if we do not apply our mental abilities to try to achieve a result.

If you want to talk about  completely skill in gambling, it should not be sports betting  because it has a mixture of skill and luck although skills play a dominant role. What I consider entirely based on skill is games like poker because to win in poker, you must have the skill and not rely only on luck. You cannot make any serious progress in poker when you rely on luck.

I would go for poker as well. You need long years of experience and skills for you to be a professional and at the same time successful in this career. Whereas, in sportsbetting, it is true that you also need the luck factor in order for you to win the bet other than long years in betting in that particular sports. In poker, you rely mostly in yourself and your skills.


But mostly, those casino games are based largely on your luck. You may be using some brain but let us admit that luck is a big factor in your winning chance. Of course, you want to strategize how to minimize losses as well as how to gain more. But unfortunately, if luck is not on your side, you won't gain any.

What can be said for sure is that in some types of gambling, where the outcome depends not only on luck (but the gambler himself also has an influence) there, most likely, mental abilities are taken into account very strongly in order to win something.
I think that card games always come first, because I witnessed one girl who was very good at poker and knew how to calculate probabilities beat three average poker players at the table. And if they were playing for money, they would have already wiped out their bankrolls.

You're right, although there is a lot of theory in poker, and many strategies that can be made, in fact as I have said many times there are chess players who leave chess only to dedicate themselves to poker, because they know that their intelligence is great enough to make great strategies playing poker, the truth is I don't know what their result will be , it makes me a little curious, but that's how high the expectations that people have about poker are.

There are several types of skill-based games - but in every game, luck still plays a role. This is certainly different from luck-based games like slots, crash, or dice - but in skill-based games, luck is considered a secondary factor after skill. Even though all games require skill - every gambler must acknowledge that luck also plays a significant role in winning. No matter how good your skills are - if you're unlucky, there will always be obstacles that will cause you to lose.

All gamblers have a fundamental mentality - I mean they accept losses and consider risks, but each of them has a threshold of how much they can afford to lose. Slot players also have a strong mentality - they even want to persist even if they don't win anything in a single session for many spins.

When we talk about skills, all of them should be measured , first those of money, and second those of the game itself, when they are those of the game, well, poker and all the strategies, yes, but the true skill for me is that which is given in the moment of knowing how to bet, when to raise the money to bet, all of that, for me such things are extremely important , I know that it can be handled in many ways but the importance must always lie in the money.