Bitcoin Forum

The value of Bitcoin cannot be over emphasized. The coin is one of the most valued asset right now in human history. Some people prefer saving up their coins than saving real money. The value of one Bitcoin is bigger than some currencies around the world. Bitcoin will someday become the crude oil of some people and firms in the world. It will surely boom and everyone will scramble for it and at that time the scarcity of the Bitcoin will make it have more value than the real money. Save up your coins and hit the jackpot.

Its already been there long time.

1BTC isnt 1USD
1BTC isnt 1EURO
1BTC isnt 1YEN
1BTC isnt 1PESO

Those currency can be printed but BTC isnt able to add anymore to circulating supply means its scarce and its value will keep increasing in due time while currency depends on the economic sector.

What the heck? did you know about bitcoin when it was below a dollar? ddi you know about it when it was around $1 to 1BTC?

We are far gone beyond where it's scarcity is still going to be exaggerated, right now it's already the Gold or even more than gold of our time.

No country currency is bigger than 1BTC

You can't say bitcoin will boom, sounds like some pump and dump shit! bitcoin has been booming and every 4 years it has a special kind of boom unlike any other assets,currency and/or crypto.

One interesting aspect is; it's volatility makes it a very attractive prospect, drawing attention to its potential. One certainty is; Bitcoin is here to stay, and it's potential is enormous.

One bitcoin is more valuable and bigger than all the currencies considering what it can be used in buying, but if it is how people see it, some people will still value holding the fiat amount of one bitcoin than one bitcoin itself. So in conclusion, in terms of what Bitcoin can be used for, bitcoin has a clearer value, but about hoe people see it and perceive this value, bitcoins victory is not yet clear.

Bitcoin is already more valuable than any fiat currency if fiat is what you are referring to as real money, and this makes me want to ask if bitcoin itself is fake money? Cause we all know they the opposite of real is fake, if fiat is real money, does it mean that bitcoin is fake money? Because whether you agree with this or not, bitcoin itself is money.

Fiat is known to lose their value and purchasing power over time due to its infinite supply, this is one of the issues of fiat that Bitcoin had addressed with its limited amont in total supply,  bitcoin no doubt has become very expensive for more people to be able to afford to buy 1 of it, and as time comes and goes, it is expected that the value will continue to grow, those who can afford it can invest for the long term because this is the only way to be profitable as a bitcoin investor.

I think the title of the thread is incorrect. I would have titled it: “Bitcoin is real money”. It's almost contradictory, what the title says and what the OP says. Surely he considers fiat currency to be real money because it has many more options for payment, but for me, real money is not devalued at a rapid pace. In ancient times, real money was gold (and silver) until politicians came up with the idea of alloying coins with other metals, thus beginning to devalue them.

Money is money, what is real money in your post?

There is only fake money from criminals who want to print fake money in order to use freely without working. Governments in contrast can arbitrarily print more fiat currencies in their nations if they want but money printed by governments and central banks are not considered as fake money. Even their printed fiat currencies are not backed by any valuable assets behind like gold for example.

The times of Gold Standard globally gone many decades ago and all fiat currencies nowadays are very inflationary and useless.

What people can gain from their Bitcoin holdings is no longer a secret. Only a few are still unfamiliar with Bitcoin, and they will eventually learn about it like those before them.

As a currency, 1 BTC = 1 BTC.
Bitcoin's value is greater than fiat currencies worldwide, and we can compare it for ourselves. Currently, the price of Bitcoin is US$112,628.80. Previously, thousands of Bitcoins could buy a pizza. In some countries, even 1 Bitcoin could buy a decent house at the local fiat exchange rate.

It's always true but it does not mean too much as all shitcoins, scam meme tokens can say similarly like

1 PEPE = 1 PEPE for example.

However, they are useless altcoin and scam projects so they don't  have actual values, and prices will become less and less, until their project deaths in the future.
How many cryptocurrencies have failed? (https://www.coingecko.com/research/publications/how-many-cryptocurrencies-failed)

Bitcoin future supply will be halved every 210,000 blocks as how it halved several times in the past years while very oppositely, fiat currencies will have increases of their future supplies. This means even Bitcoin adoption only remains like now, its price will increase as consequence of fiat currencies' decrease of their purchasing powers over time by inflationary problems.

Fortunately, Bitcoin will have better adoption so its value increases more and that means it will have like double forces for price growth in future and not only from fiat currency inflationary issue.

Bitcoin is the "real money" itself and what you refer to as real money is not even money, it is fiat "currency". As a reminder the difference between money and currency is that currency is a medium of exchange while money is a currency that is also store of value.

Fiats are currencies because they are not store of value, they are only medium of exchange. And because bitcoin is a medium of exchange with a capped supply, it can be a store of value which makes it money. In fact Bitcoin is the only money in existence because it has both characteristics. Everything else only has one of the two (eg. fiat is only medium of exchange and gold is only store of value).

Fiat currencies are created by governments and central banks that use all resources they have, lies they can say, for defending useless fiat currencies and convining people in upcoming solutions of governments and central banks for fixing issues of inflation and declining purchasing power while in many centuries, they have failed to do all those things.

I don't believe governments and central banks will succeed in the future and my belief is they will only make things and problems worse and worse over time.

Whatever words they use to call their fiat currencies as "Real Money", I don't mind after I knew of their chronic problems that can not be solved, and I realized high value, potentiality and the bullish future of Bitcoin.

The bullish case for Bitcoin (https://vijayboyapati.medium.com/the-bullish-case-for-bitcoin-6ecc8bdecc1) is very opposite with the dump future of fiat currencies.

Purchasing Power of the U.S. Dollar Over Time. (https://www.visualcapitalist.com/purchasing-power-of-the-u-s-dollar-over-time/)

I'm still waiting for most companies around the world to accept BTC as a payment method. Unfortunately, this probably won't happen.
It won't happen due to the same reason why gold isn't accepted as a payment method anymore. It's just too valuable and there's a constant expectation that the value will keep raising(or just fiat money will keep losing value). That's the problem for deflationary assets. Nobody wants to use them as a payment method. The people just prefer to buy them and accumulate more and more, waiting for a higher price in the future.
What the hell is "real money"? I know the definition of money, but the term "real money" seems like nonsense to me. Legal tender money are the real money, because the government has decided that they are real, but in reality, paper money were just a derivative of gold and silver.

This looks like you are calling for investors to buy bitcoin just because with it they stand the chance of hitting jackpot. no doubt, with the right investment strategy, getting a good returns on investment from your bitcoin accumilation is not unrealistic but when you are all too bent on getting returns from your investment and hitting jackpot from it, you might end up setting short and unrealistic goals.

The usefulness of fiat in a society that is dorminated by fiat users and where at least 95% of goods and services are sold and bought with the fiat can not be over emphasized. Even though bitcoin was not created to be a replacement to the fiat, there is no compairison between the two because the fiat is mostly used by regular person that are not considering returns from it while bitcoin is mostly used by people are considering using it as an edge against inflation or that are using it for the sake of international transaction that the usage of fiat can not go for.

bitcoin is the real money. i guess what you meant was that some people prefer investing in a valuable and reliable asset like bitcoin or converting their fiat to bitcoin than letting inflation eat up its value in the bank .

no currency in the world can equate with bitcoin even in the next 100 years to come. i think you dont know the actual price of 1 bitcoin perhaps . ;D ;D even the Kuwaiti Dinar  which is leading with 1(KWD) = $3.26 as the currency with highest value is not even a match for bitcoin.

In this section, please don't compare it to other coins, especially shitcoins or memecoins.
This discussion is about Bitcoin and cash. Don't divert from it.
Bitcoin is an electronic cash system. Bitcoin is not crypto. Bitcoin is BTC. Besides BTC, all altcoins can be considered crypto.
It's too easy to divert from the discussion to something that doesn't align with the current situation.

Save Bitcoin and hit the jackpot is no longer possible.

You buy from now and you hold till the price hit $1 Million, you only earn 10x from your capital. 10x is nothing if we want to call it a jackpot, probably at least 1,000x multipliers could be called as jackpot.

I think if you wish for most companies to accept Bitcoin payment, it might be possible. Because most companies are profit oriented and they will do many thing as long as it's bring them money.

It's different if you talk about countries, the factors are many and I think it's high unlikely to happen.

What you call "real money" is actually not money  it's credit, or rather fiat currency. If you're saving in fiat currency, you're exposed to inflation or in other words, silent theft.To understand this, you need to go deeper down the rabbit hole and start exploring what money truly is.Try reading books like The Bitcoin Standard, The Fiat Standard, or Broken Money, as well as the famous article by Nick Szabo  who is, most likely, Satoshi Nakamoto himself. https://nakamotoinstitute.org/library/shelling-out/#money

These works will help you understand the deeper meaning of what money really is and why Bitcoin is so important.

Bitcoin is real money  for the first time in human history, we have a form of money that can truly perform all the functions of money. That's what makes Bitcoin such a magnificent invention.

Well I am not going to say you are over hyping with your speculations because it is becomed obvious that no asset historically has attained such price rally like the Bitcoin and no assets has as well acquired global market influence like Bitcoin within it range of time (15 years).
Gladly, Bitcoin has surpassed a lot of global assets and had currently secured a 5th position in the market cap and potentially hopeful to lead the global market in the future regardless of it volatility being trajectory.
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Source: https://coindoo.com/bitcoin-now-among-top-5-global-assets-surpasses-amazon/

Bitcoin potentials is radiated and can not be overemphasized. The principles of Bitcoin is overwhelmed to be compared to the conventional system.

Bitcoin is booming already and has broken multiple ATHs this bull run, I do not think everyone would want to use bitcoin, but adoption would increase in coming years as more institutions are coming into it thereby creating more awareness.


You mean Fiat, because bitcoin is real money and is used as a transaction medium for several years now. Bitcoin surely outperforms fiat and is used to hedging fiat against inflation and currency depreciation. Accumulating bitcoin with a long-term holding plan is a good investment to secure your financial future.

If I want to differentiate between Bitcoin and real money then I must keep one thing in mind that if you deposit real money of Bitcoin then it will not give you any profit, if you deposit a small amount of Bitcoin then you will get good profit in the future. I have noticed that those who have deposited in Bitcoin have made profit and they are more interested in it. Yes it is right to consider Bitcoin as a long term value. Bitcoin is a valuable asset so depositing Bitcoin is better than depositing money.

Real money is a means of payment. Bitcoin is also a means of payment that users can use for transactions.
Bitcoin's value has been proven, and it is a legacy of humanity, one that offers extraordinary future innovation. This legacy must be preserved as a form of respect. The Bitcoin we know today is not about price, but about something valuable to own. The difference is that we don't physically touch it; we can enjoy it online.

Real money is also increasingly used online for transactions. Users simply type the amount they wish to pay online, and then transfer it. Bitcoin transactions can also be similar between one party and another without the need for an intermediary or third party.

Holding Bitcoin means changing your own destiny, because now is the time to jump on Bitcoin. Because as time goes by, the price of Bitcoin is going up and Bitcoin is coming under the control of various treasuries and different countries and big holders because they are aggressively holding Bitcoin. In the current deep Bitcoin market, Microstrategy company has collected 3081 Bitcoins today and their total Bitcoin holding is 632457 Bitcoins (https://x.com/saylor/status/1959949666482561098?t=fIUOoK6IIb1iRHoWVr71gA&s=19).
There are many more Bitcoin treasury companies, they are buying Bitcoins in large quantities, if you continue to buy Bitcoin in this way, the price of Bitcoin will definitely improve further, so now is the right time to buy Bitcoin.

That someday, we already have that today. And those who are still ignoring it, they'll be the ones to cry over that time that when they've seen it quite cheaper, they didn't do any buyouts. No doubt that Bitcoin is going to boom and for the past several years that we've seen it grown, we're now on the shift of the belief that before most institutions don't like it and are skeptical about it. Now, they're the one who are hurrying to have more of it on their portfolio and so, if they're in a hurry then there is something that we have to do as well for ourselves before it's too late.

And why is Fiat supposedly valuable or considered money? That's because a certain group of people said its money.
Bitcoin is currently the closest thing we have to being called money
It ticks all the box of what it means to be money.

You have presented some very bright thoughts concerning Bitcoin It can be consumed just like any other money and online payments can be carried out. Its key and primary distinction is that you are able to send it to another person without requirement of having bank or another firm to mediate. It is strong notion that what Bitcoin is all about is more than its price, as it is technology behind it that really matters and all this is secure and open means of tracking transactions. This in addition makes Bitcoin to be more than online asset, but it drifts towards new system of thinking about money and reliance in virtual world.

Bitcoin vs real money: is Bitcoin not real money? I think the right phrase should be 'Bitcoin vs fiat currency', because Bitcoin and fiat currencies are both money; they can be used for payment of service and in exchange for goods too. As long as it's recognised by the people, it's wrong to describe one as real money and the other one as fake money.

The value of Bitcoin is better than fiat and altcoins. Bitcoin is a value currency; that is why it is considered a store of value. If you want your money to add value, no fiat can save you, even if you convert it to the highest fiat. I only see fiat losing value more, and there is no significant increase when it appreciates.

Having fiat as savings is just a waste because, in the end, it won't yield any increase. This is why Bitcoin is different from every other currency, because what Bitcoin has is not found in other currencies. Fiat only exists for purchasing, but Bitcoin exists for adding value to money.

Saying Bitcoin versus real money makes it sound like Bitcoin is fake money, Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency and that makes it to be real money in digital form. Bitcoin is quite different from traditional currencies which are controlled by central banks, nobody controls it because it is decentralized, that is a very big difference. The value of Bitcoin cannot be compared to that of any fiat, Bitcoin has gone way more than what any top currencies can dream of reaching that is why it is a store of value. Bitcoin is a hedge against inflation that is why it is best to convert money for long term keep into Bitcoin because it's value will always reach ATH on long term.

Because fiat is flawed when you hodl it.

BTC is not 8)

Money will lose its value and assets will become more valuable. Bitcoin is not just a currency but a means of protecting wealth which is used as a store of value. The government can do anything it wants by printing money to run its country, but Bitcoin is the only decentralized currency where the government cannot influence it in any way. There is no chance of Bitcoin supply beyond the specified 21 million which is why people's interest in Bitcoin is gradually increasing.

The value of Bitcoin was once lower than the currency of any country, now it is many times higher than the most valuable currency in the world, including major countries. In the future, there will come a point where people will trust Bitcoin only to increase the value of their assets and maintain the correct value.

Bitcoin is digital currency and we all know very well that it is different from regular money like dollars or euros because no single government or bank is in charge of it. Means it is totally decentralized. And also people see Bitcoin as good way to save money for long term. Because there is limited number of Bitcoins and its value mostly goes up with passage of time which is protecting it against inflation where regular money loses its buying power.

For now, it's used for speculation and hodling by most, but in the future, I think this paradigm will change toward using BTC for services, even more of them than it is now.

We can all already use BTC in such a way, but it's not as convenient as it should be..

No fiat currency can be used to compare to BTC. It's not just that Bitcoin is bigger than some fiat currencies it's bigger than all currencies because Bitcoin is more valuable than any currency in this world. That’s how it continue to be. It is a digital currency with a limited supply, while fiat currencies continue to be printed. As a result, fiat currencies will keep losing value, but Bitcoin will continue to gain value as demand increases due to its limited supply.

I don't understand what you mean by bitcoin will become crude oil someday. But if you mean that Bitcoin will be something every country wants to hold in reserve in the future, I would say that it has already started happening, little by little.As for a jackpot, that is something unlikely to happen at Bitcoin’s current price. However, what I can say is that anyone who invests in Bitcoin and holds it for the long term will likely make a reasonable profit in the future.

For now, for me, bitcoin is more of an investment opportunity than money for payments, firstly, there is still no free opportunity to pay with bitcoins and do it wherever you want.And that’s the main difference between bitcoin and real money. Over time, this may change, but for now, regular money is for daily use, while bitcoin is for investing.

If money functions as a transaction, then Bitcoin is also a currency. The Bitcoin whitepaper states that Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer cash system. While internet commerce at that time still required a third party for payment processing, Bitcoin transactions do not require a third party.

Bitcoin has recently become widely used as a long-term investment asset, referred to by many as digital gold, due to its value.
Saving real money in savings accounts incurs monthly deductions, although not significant amounts, whereas Bitcoin does not. One Bitcoin stored in a wallet will not decrease, no matter how many years it takes, from the original amount.

This is not a controversy of "some," the value of Bitcoin is higher than any currency in the world. Have you seen any currency higher than $4 in value? Not even the highest-priced currency, the Kuwaiti Dinar. Perhaps you meant to say "asset" instead of the currency mentioned.

Agreed! However, this is no longer a prediction, but a reality. Many people who bet on it years back are now "money bags."

Eventually, if BTC's adoption won't halt, it can become a currency as well, imo, when the volatility will become less of a factor than now..

Bitcoin is already one of the most valuable assets in the world. Its scarcity is guaranteed by the capped supply of just 21 million coins, unlike fiat money which can be printed indefinitely and also easily manipulated.

 The unique thing about Bitcoin is that its scarcity isn’t controlled by any government or central authority, but programmed into its code and enforced by algorithms. That’s what makes it both a currency and a scarce digital asset.

Bitcoin is the highest money in the world, and is just 16 years in existence, the youngest but the most valuable, other currencies are older than Bitcoin yet bitcoin has outshines them all. This is because people trust it more than any other money, its centralized and can not be influence by anybody, not even the government until like fiats that can be affected my government policy and politics. Bitcoin is an independent money coin, free from any country's  policy and politics.

Imagine bitcoin at 30 years in existence, do not wait for it, just be part of it by buying now and hold, do not be told be among the people  that will smile to the bank. Bitcoin is the future, grab it now or keep regretting tomorrow. Just have patient with your holding, it will take time but you will surely smile at the end.

So I remember with two of my friends they made a bet on Bitcoin, one who did not believe Bitcoin and the other was convinced of Bitcoin, the debate occurred between the two, it occurred in 2020 at that time Pandemi.

The end of the story both agreed to invest, each of them held the argument and they had $ 28,900 each.
1. Who does not believe Bitcoin he invests in money of $ 28,900 in a bank/deposit in a period of 5 years.
2. Those who believe in Bitcoin he bought 1 Bitcoin at that time the price of $ 28,900 was the same in a period of 5 years.

Conclusion: My friend who does not believe Bitcoin in 5 years is given a reward by a bank of $ 5000.
Those who bought Bitcoin clearly won January 20, 2025 Bitcoin prices penetrated to $ 108,000, obviously he profit $ 79,100 indicates Bitcoin is superior to everything.

From this experience, explained Bitcoin versus Fiat won Bitcoin, for that do not underestimate Bitcoin, digital money has made a big change for the world economy until this moment.

There will be only 21 million Bitcoin that will be ever generated and their is huge quantity of Bitcoins that are already lost forever because of their owner negligence. What we are witnessing is that demand of Bitcoin is going up because too many individual along with institutes are now investing in Bitcoin and supply of Bitcoin is increasing in controlled manner. Bitcoin price is deemed to go up because of huge demand and limited supply. To secure your future profit, accumulate as much Bitcoin as you can before price further goes up.

Yes, that's right. Bitcoin's technology coupled with its limited supply, will make this asset scarce one day, and those who don't own it will undoubtedly regret it. This is very different from fiat which is constantly eroded by inflation. So from this alone we can say that bitcoin is better than fiat and more valuable than fiat.

There are certainly clear differences between holding bitcoin and fiat. When we hold bitcoin, we have long-term hope because bitcoin already has a robust system, so it will remain steadfast and unshakeable. This differs from fiat, which can be printed at any time, leaving us with no hope, like holding onto the wind it simply slips from our grasp.

They don’t deposit in Bitcoin; Bitcoin is not a bank. If you have money, you use the money to buy Bitcoin and hold for the long term rather than saving in your local currency, which the only thing you will get in return is devaluation—purchasing power of it reducing. But with Bitcoin, you are sure of getting profit from it for the long term; as the value increases, so does the money you have invested in it.

Bitcoin is already booming, come to think of it, which position is Bitcoin occupying in the top world assets by market cap? Compare it to where it was a decade ago and the picture will become more clearer to you that Bitcoin is booming. Bitcoin is not to be compared as our traditional currency because it's not the same and doesn't even have completely the same purpose and what I mean by that is that fiat is controlled by government and thord party authorities while Bitcoin is decentralized currency designed for everyone to use it.

People who have insight about fiat currency deflationary value structure aim to preserve their wealth thus they are looking for option to have a hedge against inflation, thus they buy Bitcoin ot preserve the value of their fiat currency and if possible gain profit in the long run.


The Value of one Bitcoin is way bigger than all the currencies (1 BTC compare to 1 USD and so on) in the world not just some.


We don't need to wait for the future; all you stated is already happening now.  Bitcoin had been used by the company to strengthen its foundation by accumulating it to have Bitcoin reserve.  Countries even follow.

What would you consider "real money".  I personally consider bitcoin as "real money".  Real money is simply in the eye of the beholder.  I would highly recommend/challange anyone who's not already read Nick Szabo's blog about the history of money https://unenumerated.blogspot.com/ . 

In his blog Nick goes through the history of money, where it's value is derived from.  How "new money" coming about has gotten "push-back" throughout time etc etc.  I have also always felt it important that others use bitcoin as money, and not just a store of currency.  This IMO will help with mass adoption.

Bitcoin is real money as you can easily convert it to your fiat. So I don't understand people who consider btc as not real money. I would consider one currency as not real money if I can't use it to buy anything. However, when you talk about btc, once you convert it, you can already use it like fiat. Just like other foreign currencies that you have. You can't use it in your local store but once you convert it to your local fiat, you can already use it. Maybe, treat btc as foreign currency, and you will understand that it is also real money. Also, a lot of people are still considering btc as an investment, that they can store and wait for the timing to sell it for a much higher profit.

In the past, in ancient times, people exchanged things, goods with each other and they can use shells, rocks as money, that's it. Bitcoin can be used to trade for pizza and other things, so it is a kind of money. This monetary use case of Bitcoin is undeniable and it can be used this way legally or illegally.

Bitcoin legality map.
https://newhedge.io/terminal/bitcoin/legality-map

Money is money and people can use anything as an equivalent of value exchange for their trade deals without need of legal tender. Bitcoin does not need to have global legal tender to be considered and used as money between people. However, at bigger scale, for business, institutions for example, having legal status or legal tender status is better.