Title: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: abaeze on August 29, 2025, 05:12:19 PM Today, while watching the predictions of various big businessmen about Bitcoin, one thing occurred to me - the price of Bitcoin will be one million, but before I thought it was a matter of time, but my research says that it is possible to have 2 million within two years not one million, and it is really possible. According to the international media or business magazine Forbes, there are a total of more than 3,000 billionaires in the list of The World’s Billionaires 2025 around the world. According to this report, the combined wealth of these billionaires is about $16.1 trillion. If only 100 people buy 90% of the total circulation, then its price can be 2 million. Total supply Bitcoin = 21,00,000 and total 90% of circulation = 18,900,000 BTC
Let's say, Price per Bitcoin = $100,000 (although the round figure has been taken to facilitate the calculation due to price fluctuations) then if you calculate 1.89 trillion USD will be the total price of 90% of Bitcoin. If the total amount of this price is calculated and divided among 100 people, then each person will cost only 18.9 billion USD. Which is not impossible for investors like them. we know that when so many BTC are bought together, the price will skyrocket, but even then I think it is not impossible. Now my question is: 1. Is it possible, 100 (or a certain number) billionaires buy 90% of the total circulation? If it is possible then 2. Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Ambatman on August 29, 2025, 05:33:58 PM Know understand your calculation or the basis to your prediction. And to your questions
1. Depends if there are sellers and the true number of lost Bitcoins. If everybody is hypothetically willing to sell and there's no lost Bitcoins then yes But in real life it won't be possible due to reasons I just mentioned And also the price would be more expensive as the demand exceeds supply. 2. Bitcoin price isn't Bitcoins protocol. Bitcoin protocol is decentralized in nature and few people owning Bitcoin wouldn't directly change that. Quote Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? Owning lots of Bitcoin doesn't give one the power to print more Bitcoin And if they are able to change the protocol to suit their needs then that's no longer Bitcoin. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Dunamisx on August 29, 2025, 05:40:39 PM 1. Is it possible, 100 (or a certain number) billionaires buy 90% of the total circulation? If it is possible then 2. Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? Newbies knows how to ask questions in a funny approach ;D i will try to give some answers to your questions all together without having to quote each separately before saying what i have to say base on my view. 1. No, its not possible, because bitcoin is not centralized and not that there is a particular place they all have to go and buy it, those whales we also see do accumulate gradually and buy from different sources and with different time intervals. 2. Bitcoin will always remained a decentralized currency, as long as the government or any central authority are not the ones in charge controlling it. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Solosanz on August 29, 2025, 06:07:37 PM Since current Bitcoin market cap is $2.1 Trillion, theoretically it should be possible because the top 100 billionaires have larger money than Bitcoin market cap. But, not everyone will agree to sell Bitcoin at $100K-$200K, which is in reality it's high likely not possible.
The market cap is too huge which make richest people in this world not even able to control it. Quote from: AI The combined net worth of the top 100 billionaires fluctuates constantly but was estimated by Forbes to be around $3.2 trillion to $3.7 trillion in August 2025 Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Mia Chloe on August 29, 2025, 06:30:40 PM Today, while watching the predictions of various big businessmen about Bitcoin, one thing occurred to me - the price of Bitcoin will be one million, but before I thought it was a matter of time, but my research says that it is possible to have 2 million within two years not one million, and it is really possible. It's simply math but I don't think it's worth calculating. Billionaires can't just all in one mind decide to buy off the total supply just like that and aside from that you're actually ignoring the fact for there to be buyers there also have to be sellers and similarly all the persons hodling cannot just unanimously sell of their coins. If particular sets of persons buy off every single bitcoin then it can't be called a hundred percent decentralized network anymore and the idea of decentralization is the corner stone of bitcoin's growth. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Bitcoin Smith on August 29, 2025, 06:39:16 PM You did the math without taking into an important factor. Networth ≠ Liquid cash. ;D You see their networth is coming from stocks, bonds, investment on many things and their valuation, gold and simply any asset. So if you see someone valued at 10 billion that doesn't mean they can free up 10 billion and just buy bitcoin with it.
And if they try to liquid some of their asset like their company share of 10% that just crash their total valuation. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Hamza2424 on August 29, 2025, 07:05:37 PM 1. Is it possible, 100 (or a certain number) billionaires buy 90% of the total circulation? If it is possible then 2. Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? Will you sell your BTC, if you hold any? I hold some Bitcoin, and some holders have been holding BTC for a long time. What if they don't plan to sell? So theoretically your calculation is right, but practically it is not possible because not every bitcoin holder will agree to sell even if you convince all the billionaires to buy it.There must be 100 billionaires or maybe more who have bought BTC but the amount you are asking is too big for all of them. They won't invest such a huge amount in one asset and that's their main lesson to become a millionaire. The answer to 2nd question is, the integrity of BTC in terms of decentralization won't be sustained if fewer people own more BTC, they can easily manipulate the price. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: serjent05 on August 29, 2025, 07:06:23 PM Today, while watching the predictions of various big businessmen about Bitcoin, one thing occurred to me - the price of Bitcoin will be one million, but before I thought it was a matter of time, but my research says that it is possible to have 2 million within two years not one million, and it is really possible. In one speculation and theory yes it is possible to say, even reaching $10 million in the next month is possible to say actually it is easy to say, but in reality check? It is quite the opposite. If we look at the price history and how the cycle transition from bearish to bullish and back to bearish shows that this year would be the peak of the bullish run of Bitcoin. After Bitcoin reach its peak it will transition to bearish where the transition is possible to happen in the end of the year or next year. This pattern of BTC conflicts your speculation of Bitcoin reaching $2 million in the next two year and probably Bitcoin will be 50% cheaper by then. According to the international media or business magazine Forbes, there are a total of more than 3,000 billionaires in the list of The World’s Billionaires 2025 around the world. According to this report, the combined wealth of these billionaires is about $16.1 trillion. If only 100 people buy 90% of the total circulation, then its price can be 2 million. Total supply Bitcoin = 21,00,000 and total 90% of circulation = 18,900,000 BTC Assuming these Billionaires do buy aggressively, then Bitcoin price maybe go way beyond the $2 million. Remember in every demand the supply react. People will tend to increase their price when they see that there is a FOMO happening in the market. Quote Let's say, 1. Is it possible, 100 (or a certain number) billionaires buy 90% of the total circulation? Everything is possible, but it is highly unlikely because some of these Billionaire, maybe, is anti Bitcoin. Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? These billionaires are just buy do they? And they are not buying the authority to code and modify BTC, yes? So Bitcoin will stay decentralized, but the market, yes they will be played by a small number of people since they have the money and the BTC (assuming they accumulated 90% of the supply) to manipulate the market. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Mrbluntzy on August 29, 2025, 07:15:53 PM Bitcoin is decentralized and will remain like that unless you are handing your coins to centralized exchanges and KYC platforms, it doesn't matter if 100 billionaire buys the Bitcoin or not, if they still wants to keep their identity away from you, they can decide to use Bitcoin mixer to transfer the coins to different wallets, just that what you are thinking is not going to be possible because these 100 rich people must have a specific source of income that made them to have a beautiful net worth and they can't all agree to spend all their money to buy Bitcoin, they can buy just some Bitcoin if they want to venture into Bitcoin but I really doubt that there could be such a collaboration among 100 billionaires to buy up 90% of Bitcoin, is just not possible.
Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: kotajikikox on August 29, 2025, 07:17:51 PM The only question you should be asking is whether they would want to. All these billionaires… would they be willing to spend their money on bitcoin? I know a lot of millionaires and billionaires have spent their money on bitcoin already but not all. And certainly not the same amount of money.
Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: coupable on August 29, 2025, 07:31:33 PM 1. Is it possible, 100 (or a certain number) billionaires buy 90% of the total circulation? If it is possible then 2. Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? Of course it's possible theorically since billionaires posess money more than the value of total bitcoin supply in the world. However you should consider few elements; first you should see how much bitcoin available in the market because not everybody willing to sell his bitcoin unless those billionaires will force holders (imaginary senario), second is that bitcoin was first made to be decentralized so of 100 persons willing to monopolize it only for themselves will lost bitcoin value after no one willing to buy or use it as it will be in the hands of limited number persons.Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: sunsilk on August 29, 2025, 07:49:55 PM Now my question is: 1. Is it possible, 100 (or a certain number) billionaires buy 90% of the total circulation? If it is possible then 2. Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? They can if they want to gatekeep and keep the 90% of the total supply in the economy right now. Let's just deduct the lost Bitcoins forever and those that haven't been mined yet. So, for them to do that. They'll have to contact all of exchanges and the miners that they'll have an organized buying that they would do. The winners here are not just them but also us who have been holding for so long. If we start seeing them seriously buying, are you going to sell? probably not. So in theory, they will be able to but it also depends on the supply in the economy and if most holders are going to sell if the demand keeps up and reflects to the price. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: pancelot on August 29, 2025, 08:01:06 PM Today, while watching the predictions of various big businessmen about Bitcoin, one thing occurred to me - the price of Bitcoin will be one million, but before I thought it was a matter of time, but my research says that it is possible to have 2 million within two years not one million, and it is really possible. According to the international media or business magazine Forbes, there are a total of more than 3,000 billionaires in the list of The World’s Billionaires 2025 around the world. According to this report, the combined wealth of these billionaires is about $16.1 trillion. If only 100 people buy 90% of the total circulation, then its price can be 2 million. Total supply Bitcoin = 21,00,000 and total 90% of circulation = 18,900,000 BTC Theoretically, 100 billionaires could buy 90% of the existing Bitcoin supply, but in reality, this would be impossible. Because Bitcoin is spread across millions of wallets, many of which are inactive, and the market is illiquid for mass purchases, the price would inevitably skyrocket beyond expectations. If this were to happen, Bitcoin would likely lose its decentralization and become controlled by a handful of individuals, resembling the traditional fiat system. Therefore, my prediction is that a much more realistic high price would be achieved through global adoption and widespread demand, rather than the monopoly of a handful of billionaires.Let's say, Price per Bitcoin = $100,000 (although the round figure has been taken to facilitate the calculation due to price fluctuations) then if you calculate 1.89 trillion USD will be the total price of 90% of Bitcoin. If the total amount of this price is calculated and divided among 100 people, then each person will cost only 18.9 billion USD. Which is not impossible for investors like them. we know that when so many BTC are bought together, the price will skyrocket, but even then I think it is not impossible. Now my question is: 1. Is it possible, 100 (or a certain number) billionaires buy 90% of the total circulation? If it is possible then 2. Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Woodie on August 29, 2025, 08:29:18 PM 90% is a big number , if anything it's an impossible number!!
Think about all the lost coins, hodlers that have passed on and coins remained untouched, and even before getting to that we need to consider the decentralised infrastructure Bitcoin is built on which makes it impossible for all persons around the world to sell all because some overzealous whale thinks they can buy everyone out... Besides, if someone bought those 90% of total supply it would make no sense for the rest of us to even continue talking about bitcoin.. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Stablexcoin on August 29, 2025, 08:37:44 PM The only question you should be asking is whether they would want to. All these billionaires… would they be willing to spend their money on bitcoin? I know a lot of millionaires and billionaires have spent their money on bitcoin already but not all. And certainly not the same amount of money. To be straight with the response, since most users already made points concerning the question. Do these billionaires have the funds to buy 90% of Bitcoin, Yes they have the funds. In reality, if they decide persuading everyone to buy all Bitcoin, you as a holder are you willing to sell? Same way it applies to every other investor. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Raflesia on August 29, 2025, 08:51:37 PM Anyone can claim bitcoin at any value they want, but in the end, this situation will only lead to speculation where the final conclusion is 50/50, especially when looking at this from the perspective of several media outlets that only want clickbait for the articles they publish.
I won't say that this is right or wrong, but in the end, we just have to remain humble and lower our expectations a little, even though sometimes the movement of bitcoin is beyond expectations, but we cannot be too sure about one-sided claims and only rely on speculation. As for the billionaires mentioned in this context, we also have no specific data or anything related to whether all of them can buy it or not. Sometimes everyone has their own beliefs about this, and we also realize that not all billionaires or trillionaires want Bitcoin, so we cannot speculate too much about this. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Zaguru12 on August 29, 2025, 10:49:57 PM 90% is a big number , if anything it's an impossible number!! Think about all the lost coins, hodlers that have passed on and coins remained untouched, and even before getting to that we need to consider the decentralised infrastructure Bitcoin is built on which makes it impossible for all persons around the world to sell all because some overzealous whale thinks they can buy everyone out... Besides, if someone bought those 90% of total supply it would make no sense for the rest of us to even continue talking about bitcoin.. In as much as I don’t think there is any restriction on a particular amount that someone can actually buy or sell bitcoin is not under censorship to place such restrictions. But the problem is 80 percent of investors holding now would not be lookin to sale and that’s why we can not have rich people or rather whales taking control of the bitcoin market just like that. Having 90% of a coin simply means that the person makes the call and sets the bitcoin price because the remaining 20% will have no say whatever on the market situation, if the whale sells other small holders will sell too and this is definitely going to be worse than some Altcoins, but let’s come out of the fantasy this will never happen as many of us aren’t even ready to sell out Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: famososMuertos on August 29, 2025, 11:13:10 PM Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC?
You should have used that phrase in a hypothetical sense, because in reality, there's no need for a fixed, round number like 100, especially when fortunes are now measured in billions. That said, your 'utopian' equation is missing the factor of volatility, since this isn't something you can execute at a certain fixed price. In conclusion, is it possible? In a hypothetical case, yes. So, the question now is... in that glorious scenario, what are you going to do? Sell, buy, or just come up with another impossible question? Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Darker45 on August 30, 2025, 12:23:15 AM There are several factors involved that it's hard to give a straight yes-or-no answer. If you're only looking at plain numbers, yeah, it's possible. But since those numbers don't exist in a vacuum, it's actually next to impossible for such a scenario to happen.
In the first place, will there ever be a time when 90% of the entire supply is available? Or, do you think your $100,000 estimate won't multiply several folds way before these billionaires are halfway through their acquisition? For me, these billionaires would run out of money first before they even finish acquiring 50% of the total supply. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: BlackBoss_ on August 30, 2025, 12:35:17 AM According to the international media or business magazine Forbes, there are a total of more than 3,000 billionaires in the list of The World’s Billionaires 2025 around the world. Let them be.They are welcome to Bitcoin market and they can buy bitcoins if they want to. You don't have to mind about those millionaires or billionaires, but let's focus on yourself, what you think and what you do. If you imagine of a future when more millionaires and billionaires become Bitcoin investors, you can take advantage of your imagination and start or boost your investment and Bitcoin accumulation from now. Quote Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? It will maintain its decentralization that exists on its network hashrate, node operations and distributions rather than on how bitcoins own and distribute among Bitcoin holders.You don't understand about what's Bitcoin decentralization. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 30, 2025, 01:31:27 AM @OP: you do know that when talking about millionaires/billionaires they do NOT have that amount in cash right? The vast majority of their wealth is in various holdings - stocks, bonds, real estate, etc. To do what you are thinking of would require them to sell off most if not all of their holdings to then buy BTC with the proceeds and that is *not* ever going to happen.
Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: maydna on August 30, 2025, 03:34:22 AM Yes, they can if they have that big money. But that needs agreements on how they will share the profits. Those 100 billionaires will not just use their money without any plan. They will follow the master plan if it can give them benefits. So that is possible if 100 billionaires buy the total supply of 90% BTC.
I don't know about the decentralization but I guess they can play the price with a dump and pump scheme between them. They can make many people worry if Bitcoin will be nothing but they can also give hope to people if they hodl Bitcoin and follow their plan. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: pooya87 on August 30, 2025, 11:17:08 AM Majority of the bitcoins in circulation is owned by individuals and it is very distributed so no one entity or a handful of them can ever buy a large amount of it because individuals have bought it to own it themselves and not to sell it to others.
Not to mention that whenever price starts rising, more people start buying more bitcoin and it gets even more distributed among more individuals! So even if these "billionaires" had the liquidity, the still wouldn't have been able to buy a large percentage of the total circulating supply :) Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: SilverCryptoBullet on August 30, 2025, 02:45:02 PM Majority of the bitcoins in circulation is owned by individuals and it is very distributed so no one entity or a handful of them can ever buy a large amount of it because individuals have bought it to own it themselves and not to sell it to others. It can be owned by individuals and it has been like this in early years since 2009. When Bitcoin was new, and more sensitive to be attacked or death, it was not safe enough, not attractive enough with investors and most early bitcoin holders are individuals. Over time, Bitcoin becomes stronger and there are changes with more institutional investors have been joining this market.Not to mention that whenever price starts rising, more people start buying more bitcoin and it gets even more distributed among more individuals! So even if these "billionaires" had the liquidity, the still wouldn't have been able to buy a large percentage of the total circulating supply :) This trend does not change a fact that people can own bitcoin individually and Bitcoin individual investors will not disappear or sell all their bitcoins to institutional investors. Taking advantage of new capital from institutional investors or becoming liquidity for them, it depends on your decisions and actions. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: edroi on August 30, 2025, 03:03:29 PM Today, while watching the predictions of various big businessmen about Bitcoin, one thing occurred to me - the price of Bitcoin will be one million, but before I thought it was a matter of time, but my research says that it is possible to have 2 million within two years not one million, and it is really possible. According to the international media or business magazine Forbes, there are a total of more than 3,000 billionaires in the list of The World’s Billionaires 2025 around the world. According to this report, the combined wealth of these billionaires is about $16.1 trillion. If only 100 people buy 90% of the total circulation, then its price can be 2 million. Total supply Bitcoin = 21,00,000 and total 90% of circulation = 18,900,000 BTC Let's say, Price per Bitcoin = $100,000 (although the round figure has been taken to facilitate the calculation due to price fluctuations) then if you calculate 1.89 trillion USD will be the total price of 90% of Bitcoin. If the total amount of this price is calculated and divided among 100 people, then each person will cost only 18.9 billion USD. Which is not impossible for investors like them. we know that when so many BTC are bought together, the price will skyrocket, but even then I think it is not impossible. Now my question is: 1. Is it possible, 100 (or a certain number) billionaires buy 90% of the total circulation? If it is possible then 2. Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? that kind of idea looks simple on paper but in reality bitcoin doesn’t work like buying apples in a store.. most of the circulating coins are held by millions of people who don’t want to sell or will only sell at crazy high prices... so even if 100 billionaires put their money together they wouldn’t really get 90% and the supply just isn’t liquid like that and even if a group managed to grab a big chunk.. bitcoin has one special thing fiat doesn’t: it’s transparent... everyone can see the addresses, the movement & the concentration.. if a small club tried to ( play ) the system the rest of the world could fork, build around them or simply refuse their influence.. decentralization is more about the rules and the network than who holds how many coins so it's possible on math.. almost impossible in reality.. bitcoin's design makes sure it can’t easily be captured like fiat Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Dunamisx on August 30, 2025, 03:43:53 PM they may decide to buy the estimated bitcoin, but that does not renders the network being under centralized authority, we cant expect them all to come together and buy at once, while everyone at their own discretion are willingly buying and selling, which may be the trigger to the market to rise or fall to a certain extent, at last, everyone will be buying as some are selling, which is what will always rent the market into volatility.
Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Lida93 on August 30, 2025, 05:26:27 PM Majority of the bitcoins in circulation is owned by individuals and it is very distributed so no one entity or a handful of them can ever buy a large amount of it because individuals have bought it to own it themselves and not to sell it to others. Yes, to corroborate with what you said I think I also saw a post in the forum days ago which analysed total amount of bitcoin already owned by governments, institutions and individuals (retailers) and it all shows that the total percentage of bitcoin held by retailers are more than what these big institutions (which could be classified as the billionaires the OP is hinting on) have bought in their possessions. Not to mention that whenever price starts rising, more people start buying more bitcoin and it gets even more distributed among more individuals! So even if these "billionaires" had the liquidity, the still wouldn't have been able to buy a large percentage of the total circulating supply :) So the distributions can't be cut in between any billionaires because as much as they continue buying so also does retailers do with their own accumulations. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: leonair on August 30, 2025, 06:11:03 PM Billionaires never become billionaires through liquid cash. Their wealth is calculated by calculating their company shares, various types of assets, stocks, etc. The rich never store liquid cash, they invest their money in different places and when that investment asset increases in value, their wealth increases. 100 billionaires will never be able to buy 90% of Bitcoin. Because when they start buying Bitcoin, the demand in the market will increase a lot and then automatically the price of Bitcoin will increase rapidly. Bitcoin is already in the hands of millions of users, they will never sell their coins all at once. And till now, the entire Bitcoin mining has not been completed, approximately 93-94% of Bitcoin mining has been completed. So it is not possible for only 100 billionaires to buy 90% of the entire supply of Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: HONDACD125 on August 30, 2025, 06:36:20 PM 2. Bitcoin will always remained a decentralized currency, as long as the government or any central authority are not the ones in charge controlling it. Why do you say as long as the government or any authority are not in charge of it as if they can be in charge of it? Bitcoin can't be controlled, no government, and no authority can be in charge of it, because it is a decentralized network, and it works on its own and isn't controlled by anyone but just powered by miners. If it were possible for a government or an authority to gain access of the network, they would have done it long ago and would have destroyed Bitcoin because they never truly liked its decentralized nature. Governments and authorities can only impose regulations as much as they can, by tracking and taxing users through their transactions that are connected with their identity and such, but they can't control the network, freeze or stop transactions, filter transactions, etc. They don't and will never have this authority no matter what. That's why, we should say that Bitcoin is and will always be a decentralized cryptocurrency. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: hyudien on August 30, 2025, 06:43:10 PM In theory, yes it is very possible for them, but in practice, I think it is quite impossible. First, those people have wealth in the form of assets, for example Elon Musk wealth is in the form of Tesla shares, SpaceX, X, Boring Company and other assets such as property, not net worth in hand. Besides is it possible for current Bitcoin holders to sell it? So buying 90% of the total bitcoin currently circulating in a short time is very impossible.
Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: moneystery on August 30, 2025, 08:58:55 PM 1. Is it possible, 100 (or a certain number) billionaires buy 90% of the total circulation? If your calculations are correct, then yes, it’s theoretically possible for billionaires to buy up 90% of the total bitcoin in circulation. However, in practice, this would be extremely difficult. Not many billionaires actually believe in bitcoin, as most prefer to invest in physical assets. Even if they collectively decided to buy, the price of bitcoin would skyrocket due to the surge in demand, making it unreasonably expensive even for them... on top of that, many current holders would likely refuse to sell, further limiting the supply and making it even harder for billionaires to accumulate such a large portion of bitcoin. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Iroh on August 30, 2025, 09:12:13 PM Using your figures, $18.9 billion per head is a shitload of money even for a billionaire and no one has that kind of money just laying around. Besides, even if they wanted, they couldn't buy and hold 90% of the total supply. Its just not feasible as t's already spread out amongst a lot of people as it is.
If the price drops, a lot of people would buy more in anticipation of an increase in price. If the price increases, a lot more would still buy still in anticipation of a bigger increase in price, in both scenario, increasing the amount of bitcoin held by regular people. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: |MINER| on September 01, 2025, 09:20:09 PM Billionaires never become billionaires through liquid cash. Their wealth is calculated by calculating their company shares, various types of assets, stocks, etc. The rich never store liquid cash, they invest their money in different places and when that investment asset increases in value, their wealth increases. 100 billionaires will never be able to buy 90% of Bitcoin. Because when they start buying Bitcoin, the demand in the market will increase a lot and then automatically the price of Bitcoin will increase rapidly. Bitcoin is already in the hands of millions of users, they will never sell their coins all at once. And till now, the entire Bitcoin mining has not been completed, approximately 93-94% of Bitcoin mining has been completed. So it is not possible for only 100 billionaires to buy 90% of the entire supply of Bitcoin. Well said.Even if a billionaire wants to invest in Bitcoin by selling all of his company shares and physical properties or wants to hold 90% of the supply of Bitcoin, it is not possible because to hold or purchase 90% of the supply of Bitcoin, becuase he would have to be a trillionaire instead of the billionaire. If I talk it more simply then if we look at the current bitcoin market cap then we will find bitcoin market cap is at $2.16–$2.17 trillion dollar and the 90% of it's is $1.953 trillion, Now, to raise this amount of funds, the current top 9 billionaires in the world would have to sell all their assets, go out on the streets, and then make investments, which is definitely not something any billionaire would want. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Merit.s on September 01, 2025, 09:37:37 PM It's possible but wouldn't happen because all the 100 billionaires wouldn't have the same interest to buy bitcoin. Some are already billionaires and might not see any reason to invest into bitcoin. Secondly, it's not everyone holding their bitcoin that will be ready to sell at the same time. Some will hodli longer than the order and some will pass on their bitcoin holdings to their heirs.
Bitcoin decentralized nature makes it unique and that cannot the changed if not bitcoin will become like other shitcoins out there in the market. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Alpha Marine on September 04, 2025, 10:58:35 PM Yes, they can if they have that big money. But that needs agreements on how they will share the profits. Those 100 billionaires will not just use their money without any plan. No, they cannot. The net worth you see is the total assets of those billionaires. That means that is the money value of everything they have, not the money they have I their accounts. If we want to talk about the money they have in their accounts, I doubt 100 billionaisea will have over $2.3 trillion to buy bitcoin with. I believe so because if you add the total net worth of all the top 15 richest people in the world currently, it's not more than $2.3 trillion. The only way they can buy up the current supply of bitcoin is if they sell their assets, which they won't do. Also, since we're speaking hypothetically, if the top 100 billionaires start buying bitcoin, this will increase demand and thereby causing the price to skyrocket. A demand like that might even make the price of bitcoin skyrocket to a level they can't afford. Of course, it will correct quickly, but they won't be able to buy all of it. But if they're able to buy it, then what? When there is no demand, the price will just drop back and become worthless, leaving them with heavy losses. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Smartvirus on September 04, 2025, 11:44:41 PM @OP: you do know that when talking about millionaires/billionaires they do NOT have that amount in cash right? The vast majority of their wealth is in various holdings - stocks, bonds, real estate, etc. To do what you are thinking of would require them to sell off most if not all of their holdings to then buy BTC with the proceeds and that is *not* ever going to happen. That’s the point, most of these guys get their ratings based on their net worth which includes properties owned. The lot of them view these to be relatively safe than Bitcoin so, there isn’t anyway they would want to abandon that, to sell off what grew them to invest in Bitcoin. There isn’t anyway they would be able to buy 90% of the total supply given how many is owned by individual investors as it is and miners. There would always be those that wouldn’t want to sell and what that would mean is, an inflated price and that’s it. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Smack That Ace on September 05, 2025, 02:48:27 AM Yes, they can if they have that big money. But that needs agreements on how they will share the profits. Those 100 billionaires will not just use their money without any plan. No, they cannot. The net worth you see is the total assets of those billionaires. That means that is the money value of everything they have, not the money they have I their accounts. If we want to talk about the money they have in their accounts, I doubt 100 billionaisea will have over $2.3 trillion to buy bitcoin with. I believe so because if you add the total net worth of all the top 15 richest people in the world currently, it's not more than $2.3 trillion. The only way they can buy up the current supply of bitcoin is if they sell their assets, which they won't do. Also, since we're speaking hypothetically, if the top 100 billionaires start buying bitcoin, this will increase demand and thereby causing the price to skyrocket. A demand like that might even make the price of bitcoin skyrocket to a level they can't afford. Of course, it will correct quickly, but they won't be able to buy all of it. But if they're able to buy it, then what? When there is no demand, the price will just drop back and become worthless, leaving them with heavy losses. According to Forbes, the total assets of global billionaires are more than 16 trillion USD, of which the total net assets of the top 15 billionaires account for 2.2 trillion USD. Equivalent to bitcoin market capitalization. That means it doesn't take the total wealth of 100 billionaires, but only the top 15 billionaires to buy a majority of the bitcoin supply. That's the theory but in reality as you or many others have said, it will never happen, they will never sell all their assets and join hands just to buy bitcoin. It is meaningless and not beneficial to them. But through that we can see that bitcoin is still small compared to its potential. It's still too early to invest in bitcoin. https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/09/05/UnkDDj.png https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2025/04/01/forbes-39th-annual-worlds-billionaires-list-more-than-3000-worth-16-trillion/ Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Alpha Marine on September 05, 2025, 12:42:27 PM According to Forbes, the total assets of global billionaires are more than 16 trillion USD, of which the total net assets of the top 15 billionaires account for 2.2 trillion USD. Equivalent to bitcoin market capitalization. That means it doesn't take the total wealth of 100 billionaires, but only the top 15 billionaires to buy a majority of the bitcoin supply. They will not sell their assets to buy bitcoin, so we have to use the cash they have in their bank accounts, which would not be enough to buy all of bitcoin. Their net worth differs from the cash in their bank accounts. Cash, they could use to purchase bitcoin. I don't believe the total cash 100 billionaires have in their accounts is more than $2 trillion. If the total net worth of over 3000 billionaires is about $16 trillion, how can the cash in the banks of 100 of them be above $2 trillion? Only illegal people keep that amount of money lying around without investing it. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Swordsoffreedom on September 05, 2025, 01:25:28 PM If the total net worth of over 3000 billionaires is about $16 trillion, how can the cash in the banks of 100 of them be above $2 trillion? $16 trillion is a huge number, 8 times the market capitalization of bitcoin, but the way you put it makes it sound pretty small :D :D. The world population is over 8 billion people and the global GDP is 130 trillion but the total assets of only 3000 people account for more than 16 trillion, accounting for 12% of the global GDP. This is beyond my imagination and shows that the gap between rich and poor is much bigger than we imagine. Of course, billionaires won't have that much cash or money in the bank, but if their net worth is in the hundreds of billions of dollars. That also means they could have a corresponding amount of money if they sold all those assets. They certainly won't sell all their assets just for bitcoin but if they need money or have other plans. They can own fiat equivalent to the value of the assets they own. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Patikno on September 05, 2025, 01:36:06 PM According to Forbes, the total assets of global billionaires are more than 16 trillion USD, of which the total net assets of the top 15 billionaires account for 2.2 trillion USD. Equivalent to bitcoin market capitalization. That means it doesn't take the total wealth of 100 billionaires, but only the top 15 billionaires to buy a majority of the bitcoin supply. They will not sell their assets to buy bitcoin, so we have to use the cash they have in their bank accounts, which would not be enough to buy all of bitcoin. Their net worth differs from the cash in their bank accounts. Cash, they could use to purchase bitcoin. I don't believe the total cash 100 billionaires have in their accounts is more than $2 trillion. If the total net worth of over 3000 billionaires is about $16 trillion, how can the cash in the banks of 100 of them be above $2 trillion? Only illegal people keep that amount of money lying around without investing it. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: PrivacyG on September 05, 2025, 01:36:38 PM If it is possible then 2. Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? This is one thing none of us can control. If they get to own this much of the Bitcoin supply then it is what it is. Enforcing the rich to become poorer affects everybody and makes Bitcoin not a free economy or currency any more.Further more. It is our fault collectively for letting them do this and purchase enough Bitcoin. There may be 3 thousand billionaires but we are billions of people. Collectively, we could do more than 3 thousand billionaires can. Yet, most of us are fooled into selling Bitcoin thinking it collapses soon and most of us rather purchase clothes and cars than have an eye for savings and investments. In my opinion. No matter how hard a free currency is worked on, the average person will continue to fall into the traps set by the rich and more experienced. Like all roads led to Rome, all roads here lead to the same ending. When an asset becomes powerful, powerful people will be playing it in their hands. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: 9ja Amaka on September 05, 2025, 01:40:01 PM Not possible.
Up to 50% of Bitcoiners are holders. 20% is probably holding for the long term. Also, big institutions like MSTR and 21 capital hold more than 10% of Bitcoin in their company. Let us also talk about countries holding bitcoin for reserve. Why this wont be possible is because there are not enough people willing to sell their bitcoin as it stands. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 05, 2025, 02:21:31 PM You did the math without taking into an important factor. Networth ≠ Liquid cash. ;D You see their networth is coming from stocks, bonds, investment on many things and their valuation, gold and simply any asset. So if you see someone valued at 10 billion that doesn't mean they can free up 10 billion and just buy bitcoin with it. Well, that's one factor, but the other factor that I think is more important in showing that the mathematical argument put forward by the OP is nonsense is provided by serjent05: Assuming these Billionaires do buy aggressively, then Bitcoin price maybe go way beyond the $2 million. Remember in every demand the supply react. People will tend to increase their price when they see that there is a FOMO happening in the market. This, which is obvious, has not been taken into account in the OP, which means that all the (rather simplistic) calculations he has made are useless. He has taken a snapshot of the market, which is dynamic. It does not work the way he thinks it does. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Catenaccio on September 05, 2025, 03:17:40 PM Well, that's one factor, but the other factor that I think is more important in showing that the mathematical argument put forward by the OP is nonsense is provided by serjent05: It is a clear point but people somehow missed it.Assuming these Billionaires do buy aggressively, then Bitcoin price maybe go way beyond the $2 million. Remember in every demand the supply react. People will tend to increase their price when they see that there is a FOMO happening in the market. Supply and demand principle always works in short term and long term. The millionaires or billionaires can invest their money in Bitcoin market by buying bitcoins gradually or aggressively in short time but their demand will lead price up. Firstly we must think of how price reacts with massive purchases from millionaires or billionaires and we with our smaller capital can follow those whales. We fortunately can purchase bitcoins and finish our accumulation in shorter time than whales, and we can wait for chances to take profit. OP can see this point, whales will continue their purchases as with big capital their accumulation can not be done too quickly. We can take advantage of it, and take profit when whales buy bitcoin up. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: pancelot on September 05, 2025, 03:49:20 PM Today, while watching the predictions of various big businessmen about Bitcoin, one thing occurred to me - the price of Bitcoin will be one million, but before I thought it was a matter of time, but my research says that it is possible to have 2 million within two years not one million, and it is really possible. According to the international media or business magazine Forbes, there are a total of more than 3,000 billionaires in the list of The World’s Billionaires 2025 around the world. According to this report, the combined wealth of these billionaires is about $16.1 trillion. If only 100 people buy 90% of the total circulation, then its price can be 2 million. Total supply Bitcoin = 21,00,000 and total 90% of circulation = 18,900,000 BTC Indeed, if we do the math, a hundred billionaires could actually buy up to 90% of Bitcoin. But I think that's very difficult to achieve in the real world. The thing is, most Bitcoin isn't sold on the market, so liquidity is quite thin. Once a large purchase occurs, the price will immediately spike, and the required capital can be much larger than initially estimated.Let's say, Price per Bitcoin = $100,000 (although the round figure has been taken to facilitate the calculation due to price fluctuations) then if you calculate 1.89 trillion USD will be the total price of 90% of Bitcoin. If the total amount of this price is calculated and divided among 100 people, then each person will cost only 18.9 billion USD. Which is not impossible for investors like them. we know that when so many BTC are bought together, the price will skyrocket, but even then I think it is not impossible. Now my question is: 1. Is it possible, 100 (or a certain number) billionaires buy 90% of the total circulation? If it is possible then 2. Will Bitcoin be able to maintain its decentralized position? Or will it be played by a small number of people like current fiat currencies? Furthermore, even if an individual or group holds a lot of Bitcoin, they probably can't control the network at will. The rules remain the same: a maximum of 21 million BTC, protected by Proof of Work, and thousands of nodes worldwide. All transactions are also visible on the blockchain, so the movements of "whales" can be monitored by anyone. Furthermore, large holders will usually sell some to profit. This spreads ownership back into the market. So, instead of making Bitcoin like fiat, which is easy to control, it actually shows that Bitcoin is scarce and difficult to manipulate. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Muba20 on September 05, 2025, 05:52:46 PM we know that when so many BTC are bought together, the price will skyrocket, but even then I think it is not impossible. There are many things involved in investing. Market movements will not always follow the formula. Not everyone will buy Bitcoin at the same time, nor will they sell. Since not so many Bitcoins will be bought at the same time, the mathematical logic that follows will not be successful. However, it is certain that Bitcoin will rise. Even if all the rich do not buy Bitcoin at once, its demand will gradually increase through the purchase of Bitcoin and its price will also increase. If those who are accumulating Bitcoin can continue to accumulate Bitcoin for the next few cycles and they will make big accumulation of bitcoin.Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: dezoel on September 05, 2025, 06:28:31 PM Supply and demand principle always works in short term and long term. The millionaires or billionaires can invest their money in Bitcoin market by buying bitcoins gradually or aggressively in short time but their demand will lead price up. Firstly we must think of how price reacts with massive purchases from millionaires or billionaires and we with our smaller capital can follow those whales. We fortunately can purchase bitcoins and finish our accumulation in shorter time than whales, and we can wait for chances to take profit. I am both happy and sad at the same time. I am happy that there are many people here who can see the math behind this and realize that you can't do this, because it would create the price to be so high and marketcap insanely high that we are not going to end up with people being able to afford it, billionaires or not.OP can see this point, whales will continue their purchases as with big capital their accumulation can not be done too quickly. We can take advantage of it, and take profit when whales buy bitcoin up. Richest 1000 people can get together and still not be enough, richest 10k people can get together and it still wouldn't be enough. And that is even if all bitcoins were on sale, and when you consider that not all bitcoins are all on sale, that means they can't even buy it even if they had the money. So as you can see, it is literally impossible for the rich to get majority of bitcoins, that's just not going to happen. Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: Onyeeze on September 05, 2025, 06:44:21 PM Yeah calculation analysis is where people get confused of your question but from my own understanding of a point of view I know that you are emphasising on the percentage of three people to buy almost 90% of Bitcoin, secondly if it is people buy 90% of Bitcoin if bitcoin will continue be a decentralized currency or not
But the thing is that 100% cannot buy bitcoin or because there are miners who mine bitcoin continuously so I believe that those miners who mind Bitcoin no matter the total percent your purchase in Bitcoin it will not affect bitcoin not to be dcentralized currency Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: beveryu778 on September 05, 2025, 07:20:08 PM Yeah calculation analysis is where people get confused of your question but from my own understanding of a point of view I know that you are emphasising on the percentage of three people to buy almost 90% of Bitcoin, secondly if it is people buy 90% of Bitcoin if bitcoin will continue be a decentralized currency or not How can just 100 billionaires buy 90% of the Bitcoin supply? Bitcoin is not a coin that only a few people own. According to Coinbase data as of 2023, there are 108 million Bitcoin users worldwide, which is much more now. Out of all those people, do you think only 100 people can buy Bitcoin? I don't think it's ever possible for just 100 people to hold 90% of Bitcoin. Because the more people try to buy from the Bitcoin market, the more Bitcoin's price will increase and the market cap will hit several trillion dollars.But the thing is that 100% cannot buy bitcoin or because there are miners who mine bitcoin continuously so I believe that those miners who mind Bitcoin no matter the total percent your purchase in Bitcoin it will not affect bitcoin not to be dcentralized currency Title: Re: Can 100 billionaires buy total supply of 90% BTC? Post by: tread93 on September 06, 2025, 03:27:58 AM You did the math without taking into an important factor. Networth ≠ Liquid cash. ;D You see their networth is coming from stocks, bonds, investment on many things and their valuation, gold and simply any asset. So if you see someone valued at 10 billion that doesn't mean they can free up 10 billion and just buy bitcoin with it. And if they try to liquid some of their asset like their company share of 10% that just crash their total valuation. Yeah it would, liquid cash is a good point too. These billionaires have their money tied up in so many places. I do think bitcoin will eventually hit 1 million, I really do. It has everything going for it right now I can't see how it can't continue to rise at an unbelievable rate. Bitcoin has a funny way of making people regret not buying it and that's also why you don't see a ton of people who own bitcoin lining up to sell it unless they have to. I think most bitcoiners want to see how it's going to play out and so they will gladly hold onto their coins for as long as they can, they don't want to miss out and they don't want to decrease their exposure unless they are trading or getting into other crypto projects or non related crypto projects they see their capital being put to use elsewhere and cashing out of it. |