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Title: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: serjent05 on August 31, 2025, 10:39:22 PM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.

Maybe we will ask, "Why does winning contribute to gambling addiction?" or think that since winning leads to gambling addiction, losing shouldn't be.  But I was surprised when I read that both winning and losing contribute to gambling addiction.  This makes us think that there is no way out for gamblers but to get addicted, right?

Before that, let us see the reason why winning contributes to gambling addiction.

Winning makes us think that we can beat the system, so our feeling is high, and with the brain reward system (https://immunizenevada.org/the-neurobiology-of-gambling-addiction/), dopamine is excreted, making us feel good, and our brain hungers for it, so we tend to gamble more to recreate the feeling of euphoria and excitement.  With continuous activity like this, we end up breaking the control, thus leading to uncontrol urge to gamble.

Over time, the brain’s response to dopamine changes. In chronic gamblers, studies show that the dopamine system becomes less sensitive to rewards, a phenomenon known as tolerance. As a result, individuals may gamble more frequently or take greater risks to achieve the same level of satisfaction, perpetuating the cycle of addiction.

But wait, how does losing contribute to addiction?

According to this site (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3845016/) the more a gambler loses money the more they persevere gambling activity which lead to chasing losses creating a trap for the gambler.  It is also stated that there is a release of dopamine in both losing and winning, and study shows that those gamblers who lose have a more pronounced release of dopamine.

Determining the exact timing of subjective feelings or how losses spur on a gambler's desire to play during gambling episodes is difficult because different emotions and cognitions constantly overlap. Nevertheless, Linnet et al., (2010) were able to measure mesolimbic DA release in PG and HC winning or losing money. Unexpectedly, they found no difference in dopaminergic responses between PG and HC who won money. Dopamine release in the ventral striatum, however, was more pronounced for the losses in PG relative to HC. Given the motivational impact of mesolimbic DA, Linnet and colleagues argue that this effect could explain loss-chasing in PG

This is the reason why playing for fun is no different from playing for profit.  Both groups experience wins and losses, which makes our brain release dopamine that can trigger addiction.

So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?



Before that, I think this video can help us understand how gambling addiction develops.
 https://i.postimg.cc/V6WTJztv/barainconnet.png (https://youtu.be/OGIz8mocgGo)
What Is This Video About?

This video features a brain character called ‘BE’ going through the phases of a gambling problem. It shows how the brain gets hooked on gambling, how its functioning can be hijacked but also how the brain can be restored if the gambling stops. Key concepts in the ‘Clinical Handouts’ and ‘BE Briefs!’ are introduced.



Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on August 31, 2025, 10:43:51 PM
Regardless if you playing for fun, or playing for the profits, if you play beyond the normal level you are expected to play, and you get so involved, you can become addicted, same ways if you win or you lose in gambling you can still be addicted.


What matters is how you gambling, and not or what you get from gambling, whatever you do too much is already addictions, when it becomes uncontrollably done multiple times


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: nelson4lov on August 31, 2025, 10:47:52 PM
Gambling only because a problem of addiction if one allows it to be. It's almost the same with how other forms of addiction work so that's why I agree that even constant winnings can contribute indirectly to the addiction. One mentality that fuels gambling a lot is the fact that in gambling, you can only lose 100% of your money but you can win as much as 1000x worth of profit.

If you do it long enough to convince your brain that it's a need must situation, then it becomes an addiction.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: kotajikikox on August 31, 2025, 10:57:37 PM
This is the reason why playing for fun is no different from playing for profit.  Both groups experience wins and losses, which makes our brain release dopamine that can trigger addiction.
Yes but those who are playing for profit are most likely to do it a lot more, no? Hence it’s more likely for them to get addicted. Those who only play for fun will only do it when they’re free but if you’re hoping to get profit you are most likely to spend more time gambling.
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So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?
If it’s inevitable, then we all should be addicted by now but we know that’s not the case.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Sticky Bomb on August 31, 2025, 11:03:36 PM
The way out is to apply moderation in both scenarios. When winning, do not get too greedy and gamble endlessly seeking more wins. Truly you might hit more wins, but the tendency of over indulgence is building up and surely over indulgence brings addiction and you'll end up repeating such excessiveness in a losing day which would see you chasing loses and losing heavily in the process and since you're prone to excessiveness, you'll lose control and continue gambling and then it has become a big problem for you.

Gambling in moderation both when winning and when losing would strike a balance in your gambling activities and there would be a very slim chance of getting addicted.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: AmoreJaz on August 31, 2025, 11:06:44 PM
Gambling only because a problem of addiction if one allows it to be. It's almost the same with how other forms of addiction work so that's why I agree that even constant winnings can contribute indirectly to the addiction. One mentality that fuels gambling a lot is the fact that in gambling, you can only lose 100% of your money but you can win as much as 1000x worth of profit.

If you do it long enough to convince your brain that it's a need must situation, then it becomes an addiction.

It is yourself that is your enemy here. Addiction comes from days and days of playing without thinking that one day, you will get addicted. If you are not checking your lifestyle every once in a while, the chance that you will head to addiction is high as you are not assessing where you are now at your supposedly side hustle. So yes, it needs constant assessment of what you are doing, else, you would know you are already too deep in this habit where it is like impossible for you to get out.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Odogwu-Blockchain on August 31, 2025, 11:13:02 PM
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Before that, let us see the reason why winning contributes to gambling addiction.
It's even the worst factor to addiction, because it gives you a fake feelings that you can still win again and again, you keep on trying more and more and more to the point you chase loses while it continues like that.

The only way out to this is gambling only weekend especially on sport betting, not extending to casino is a good step.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Sonia_123 on August 31, 2025, 11:17:12 PM
The only way out will be based on the individual to learn how to control himself in other not to get addicted either in winning or losing be gamble is not meant to be held responsible for whatever actions or what you turned out to be because there are rules and regulations that bide gambling therefore if you failed to follow the rules and regulations you should be held responsible for your actions and you should have learnt from past experienced gamblers, since gambling has being from time memorial.

The only way out is to have self control of yourself, be satisfied with the outcome of your gambling result, don't gamble with what you cannot afford to lose, avoid chasing loses or wins, set limits for yourself.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: acroman08 on August 31, 2025, 11:40:46 PM
So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?
Gambling addiction is not "inevitable" even if the gambler gambles a lot, I mean, there are a lot of gamblers who frequently gamble and yet they are not addicted. Also, if you want to protect yourself from becoming a gambling addict, gamble responsibly. There are a lot of tips out there that come from organisations that deal with gambling addiction on how to gamble responsibly.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: BitMaxz on August 31, 2025, 11:52:34 PM
It's even the worst factor to addiction, because it gives you a fake feelings that you can still win again and again, you keep on trying more and more and more to the point you chase loses while it continues like that.

The only way out to this is gambling only weekend especially on sport betting, not extending to casino is a good step.
That's not a fake feeling; it is because of an increase of dopamine. If you win the game, it will trigger your greediness to keep you bet because you think you can achieve more reward; in the end, you will end up losing.

Like you said, limiting yourself is the solution, but gambling every weekend isn't the best solution if you're already addicted. I think a vacation with family will help reduce that addiction or if there's a rehab facility near attending to any of this will help drop your dopamine.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: PX-Z on August 31, 2025, 11:58:22 PM
Limit your wins and losses. Discipline and decision making matters most on such thing. It's not that there's no way out. I still gamble in anyway i can, but not to extent that i want it or need to play daily.
But of course if you are already addicted such things will not work and you need some medication and health experts and other stuff.
What i'm saying is prevention, before anything worst.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Agbamoni on September 01, 2025, 12:04:47 AM
I think you are misunderstanding how addiction works. You dont get addicted because you won or you lose. People get addicted because they become greedy. The moment you start chasing loses and going for more win, it's the moment addiction begins. On a regular day, if you gambling with discipline you wont get addicted even if you win or you lose.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: BitGoba on September 01, 2025, 12:08:13 AM

So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?



Although both wins and losses can increase the risk of addiction due to dopamine release and chasing losses,this does not mean addiction is inevitable. Players who set clear limits on time and money, and gamble only for fun, can stay in control and avoid developing compulsive behavior.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on September 01, 2025, 12:26:12 AM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.

Maybe we will ask, "Why does winning contribute to gambling addiction?" or think that since winning leads to gambling addiction, losing shouldn't be.  But I was surprised when I read that both winning and losing contribute to gambling addiction.  This makes us think that there is no way out for gamblers but to get addicted, right?
Winning can lead to gambling addiction because like Oliver twist, the gambler will get greedy and want even more winning to enable him make more money since money is never enough, he will continue to gamble to gain more money until gambling becomes a major part of him.

On the other hand, talking about how losing can also lead to addiction? It's also very simple, the gambler gambles and loses his money, he knows that there is still an opportunity to win and recover that money and even make gains if he continues to gamble, so he continues, at a point, he is even no longer interested in the profit, all he wants now is to recover back the money he had lost, so he continues to play the game until gambling becomes part of him.

But on both scenerios, there is always a way out to escape from addiction as a gambler whether you are winning or losing, and that way out is to gamble responsibly, don't waste too much time every day on gambling, gamble like 3 or 4 times a week and not consecutively, use the free off gambling days to do other things you like that is not related to gambling at all, could be reading a novel or any good book, or traveling to a new location etc, this would help your brain to not dwell on gambling alone and get used to it which is what is known as addiction.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: SmartGold01 on September 01, 2025, 02:00:30 AM
Regardless if you playing for fun, or playing for the profits, if you play beyond the normal level you are expected to play, and you get so involved, you can become addicted, same ways if you win or you lose in gambling you can still be addicted.


What matters is how you gambling, and not or what you get from gambling, whatever you do too much is already addictions, when it becomes uncontrollably done multiple times
That is right and what makes gamblers becoming easily addicted to gambling is the much time they are focusing on gambling site or using to gambling, if activities occupies our day to day activities without us having to think something else apart from gambling then such person easily becomes addicted to that particular they were putting much efforts and time. Addiction doesn't come in only gambling, smoker, drunker, womanizer and gangster, all these things are what makes people easily got addicted whenever they so much put their interest and thinking over there it becomes that easier for them, and changing from it could be that very hard for them.
To prevent addiction, you must learn how to regular your gambling activities, the time, the funds and focus you do give to any gambling site you must reduce them to be able to free from gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Rruchi man on September 01, 2025, 02:15:20 AM
Regardless if you playing for fun, or playing for the profits, if you play beyond the normal level you are expected to play, and you get so involved, you can become addicted, same ways if you win or you lose in gambling you can still be addicted.

What matters is how you gambling, and not or what you get from gambling, whatever you do too much is already addictions, when it becomes uncontrollably done multiple times
The summary of this is "balance" and how important it is to exercise. Wins or losses, joy or tragedy, etc., can all lead to addiction; there is no fixed path to that state. This is why the practice of balance must be engaged to ensure that things are done in moderation regardless of the state you are in.

Now thinking of "balance," to maintain it, I think it goes back to discipline, because it will require discipline to maintain balance in gambling.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Fortify on September 01, 2025, 02:53:41 AM
Losing is inevitable when playing regular games against the casino, they build every game to give them an edge - it might be 1% or it might be 10%, but they are usually upfront about it because gamblers play these games regardless. Nobody is forced to play these games but the worst mindset you can get into is thinking you're owed a win because you've ploughed so much money into a game. Each new spin on a slot, roll of a dice or spin of a roulette wheel is separate from all others and subject to those inviolable odds. There are limitless resources out there for somebody that wants to learn the mathematical odds and calculations, presented in many different ways to understand.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: DaNNy001 on September 01, 2025, 02:54:03 AM
The key to maintaining a healthy gambling lifestyle is moderation...if winning and losing causes one to be addicted then that means that you have to be very careful when you experience either one of them...whenever you are in profit you must ensure that you have a limit, instead of trying to get more wins ensure that you take a break and on the other hand when you are losing avoid trying to chase losses to recover


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: michellee on September 01, 2025, 04:43:31 AM
That will depend on how gamblers treat gambling. If they know that gambling is for fun, they will not playing gambling too long. Even though they do not playing gambling too often. They know about the risks so they will not playing gambling over time.

But many people get deeper into gambling. They can not stop gambling and difficult to control themselves. That makes them spend more money without thinking about their losses. So that will makes them addicted to gambling.

No matter the result we will never chase more wins or recover the loss. We know the consequences of playing gambling so we will limit ourselves.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on September 01, 2025, 05:06:39 AM
OP is right; every time we play, we get a dose of dopamine, after which the desire to play increases. I think that this is the root cause of all gambling addiction, because people cannot win regularly, but the process of the game itself helps them feel what attracts them to the game. How to avoid this? Perhaps someone who knows how our "system" works will be able to resist it without giving in to their emotions. In addition, if the gameplay is very addictive, we need to train ourselves to play for a certain amount of time, so as not to become slaves to games, and strictly adhere to it.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: danherbias07 on September 01, 2025, 05:21:22 AM
Strong mentality. I think we should make sure that we are strong mentally before we enter gambling.

I have a neighbor who placed a bet in slots and bought a bonus spin. He spent 100 PHP on it and won 3600 PHP. He never went back to play again after that. Mindset! His goal is just to win once, and he won. I also believe that he won't try again if ever he loses that 100 PHP.

We can win or lose, but it all depends on our next choice. Will we continue to gamble, or are we going to give up and try again the next day or the next week? It's all up to us. IMO, gambling addiction is just a mental problem.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: giammangiato on September 01, 2025, 06:01:02 AM
Imagine being a new player and losing my first $100 in my first gaming session. It's definitely a disappointing start. I don't see how it could lead to addiction. I might think I just lost $100 and don't want to deal with gambling anymore, seeing it as a huge scam. Don't you think?
Otherwise, I might interpret that loss as: I need to recoup my losses, start betting relentlessly to recover, and then become addicted!
It really depends on how you react to what happens to you, right?


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: davis196 on September 01, 2025, 06:03:31 AM
Was it really that necessary for you to post this wall of text just to explain something, which can be explained by using a few sentences?
Winning in gambling leads to dopamine boost, which leads to addiction. Losing in gambling leads to "chasing losses"(or revenge gambling), which also leads to developing addiction. There you go. You don't need a wall of text to explain this. ;D
To be honest, I've also lied to myself that I'm gambling "for fun". That's a lie. All gamblers are gambling for the money. If they wanted to play a game for fun, they could've just played a videogame, which has no betting involved. There are fun activities with no money involved, but the gamblers choose betting/gambling, because of the "money element" in all gambling games.
There are only two ways out of addiction. 1. Try to maintain self-control and gamble moderately. 2.Never gamble at all.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: viljy on September 01, 2025, 06:11:14 AM
Regardless of whether a gambler wins or loses, he gets strong emotions. This is the key to understanding the development of gambling addiction. The reason for the development of addiction lies not in the gameplay of gambling itself (winning/losing), and not in the goals that the player pursues (money/fun).

The reason is within the psycho-type of a person's personality. Therefore, some people are addicted, while other people are not. A person who is prone to addiction should understand this and try to control himself. This is quite possible, since gambling addiction is a much less serious problem than drug addiction or even smoking in terms of the degree of difficulty to overcome.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Ruttoshi on September 01, 2025, 06:12:32 AM
Regardless if you playing for fun, or playing for the profits, if you play beyond the normal level you are expected to play, and you get so involved, you can become addicted, same ways if you win or you lose in gambling you can still be addicted.


What matters is how you gambling, and not or what you get from gambling, whatever you do too much is already addictions, when it becomes uncontrollably done multiple times
Too much of anything is bad. Gambling is either you make profits or loss. That doesn't mean that you should overdo it. Accept whatever is the outcome of your bet and gamble moderately to stay healthy and free from addiction. If because you are winning and you continue gambling, you might become addicted.

On the other hand, if you are losing and continue chasing your losses, you will become addicted if you don't caution yourself. Self control and discipline is only what a gambler needs to avoid excessive losses and prevent addiction because gambling is a game of luck and done for fun not the other way round.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Ziskinberg on September 01, 2025, 06:20:11 AM
TLDR; it’s really our responsibility as gamblers to take care of ourselves. The problem is, a lot of people see gambling as a way to make easy money, and that kind of mindset can easily lead to addiction.

Another thing, I always hear people blaming casinos or the industry for their addiction, but in reality it’s their own choice to gamble and their own failure to manage the risk. At the end of the day it depends on the person, if we fall into severe addiction, then we also have to accept that it’s on us.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Cityhunter34 on September 01, 2025, 06:34:34 AM
Regardless if you playing for fun, or playing for the profits, if you play beyond the normal level you are expected to play, and you get so involved, you can become addicted, same ways if you win or you lose in gambling you can still be addicted.


What matters is how you gambling, and not or what you get from gambling, whatever you do too much is already addictions, when it becomes uncontrollably done multiple times
You are absolutely correct that is the real truth about it because even gamblers that often gamble for fun and entertainment can also get addicted if they don't have a self control.

So however, in which ever way you are approaching gambling the most important thing is noing when to stop and call it a day without thinking of going above your limit that is why most gamblers normally have problem.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 01, 2025, 06:34:48 AM
Having a good knowledge of gambling and self awareness can prevent someone from being addicted. If the person already has the knowledge that gambling is an activity of luck, they should be aware of the risk involved and also acknowledge what ever impact that gambling is having on them so that once the person is begging to deviate from the responsible habits in gambling, he can stop himself from it. Addiction doesn't suddenly happen, it's a habit that gradually accumulate in a person if the person is just ignorant to acknowledg the little changes before it goes wild.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: serjent05 on September 01, 2025, 06:37:56 AM
Was it really that necessary for you to post this wall of text just to explain something, which can be explained by using a few sentences?
Winning in gambling leads to dopamine boost, which leads to addiction. Losing in gambling leads to "chasing losses"(or revenge gambling), which also leads to developing addiction. There you go. You don't need a wall of text to explain this. ;D

I hope that it is that simple to say without giving links/examples on how addiction works in each scenario :). Please remember not everyone is Einstein-like you  ;D.

To be honest, I've also lied to myself that I'm gambling "for fun". That's a lie. All gamblers are gambling for the money. If they wanted to play a game for fun, they could've just played a videogame, which has no betting involved. There are fun activities with no money involved, but the gamblers choose betting/gambling, because of the "money element" in all gambling games.
There are only two ways out of addiction. 1. Try to maintain self-control and gamble moderately. 2.Never gamble at all.

You make sense. I recently realized that I am doing the same thing, too.  Thinking that I am playing for fun when that fun revolves around winnings.  There is no fun in losing except when I really play just to pass the time. 

In case we still wanted to gamble despite the possibilities of gambling addiction, we should always have self-check. Aside from gambling responsibly, we must always be on guard for the signs of gambling addiction; if we experience some, we must address them ASAP.  Ignoring it can only make these signs worse and eventually lead to gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: The Cryptovator on September 01, 2025, 06:49:19 AM
So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?
I admit winning and losing both would lead to gambling addiction. That doesn't mean they won't come out from the gambling anyway. Those who have been losing constantly in the gambling want to recover their losses. But if, unfortunately, they are unable to recover their losses, they borrow and take out loans for gambling. At the end, when they don't find any way to get money, then they are forced to leave gambling. Because they don't have money to lose anymore. That's how they would get out from the addiction.

But for winners, it's quite hard to leave gambling. Because they don't have an issue about losing funds. Sometimes they might lose, but overall they have funds. So losing doesn't affect them. Probably if someone earns big, that could settle their life, and then they might leave gambling to avoid further losses. This is the only way I believe to get out from the gambling addiction for winners.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Outhue on September 01, 2025, 06:53:35 AM
Winning and losing always lead to addiction, it's part of the game, it's how things work in crypto space, the problem is gamblers give room for the addiction to manifest on them, let's start from what the gamblers want, you have a dollar on you and the next thing you can think is how to turn the dollar into hundreds of dollars.

The difference here is that your aim is very high but your risk is very low, which makes you stand out among others, crazy gamblers don't like risking very low amount of money, if they can risk $100 in a go they will plan to turn this amount into $10,000. For them it's either they win $10,000 or they keep gambling, and if it doesn't work out they start thinking about how much they've lost and that's where chasing losses begins.

You are addicted to gambling because you want to be addicted to gambling, you make it happen.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Justbillywitt on September 01, 2025, 07:37:19 AM


Maybe we will ask, "Why does winning contribute to gambling addiction?"
Winnings leads to the tastes of winning more and more that's how your greed level increases over time. It's just like someone who have attained success once and has seen how sweet it is to be successful, now the person will do everything possible not to go broke again by making sure he continues doing that same thing that got him that level of success in the first place. That's how  addiction sets in from winnings in gambling.

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or think that since winning leads to gambling addiction, losing shouldn't be.
No, one shouldn't think that way because both has their own tendencies of leading gamblers who are not careful enough to getting addicted.

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 This makes us think that there is no way out for gamblers but to get addicted, right?
Only gamblers who can't control their greed level and know when to have fun and when to stop having fun can get addicted. Gambling is not a trap of getting addicted if you discipline yourself very well. We have more gamblers that are non addicts in the world. So I don't believe that gamblers are addiction bound.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: GigaBit on September 01, 2025, 07:41:41 AM
Maybe we will ask, "Why does winning contribute to gambling addiction?" or think that since winning leads to gambling addiction, losing shouldn't be.  But I was surprised when I read that both winning and losing contribute to gambling addiction.  This makes us think that there is no way out for gamblers but to get addicted, right?
If you win, try to win more and if you lose, you will gamble in the hope of winning. When a gamblers wins, dopamine is released in his brain, he feels happy and thinks that he will win more. While enjoying the joy of winning more, he loses more, which is why it is said that a gambler can become addicted even through winning.

Again, those who lose more think that they will win the next time if they place a bet. Sometimes, many people gamble even when they are angry because of defeat. They think that they will win. In this way, they lose and they become addicted because of lose.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: mindrust on September 01, 2025, 07:45:56 AM
You can play to have fun and control your feelings and that way you can become a responsible gambler who won’t lose his life savings to a casino so easily. I know it is not as easy as I make it sound but getting recovered from an addiction is never that easy anyway. One needs to have so much self awareness and discipline to have a decent chance to succeed at recovery.

If you start believing that there is no way out (even though there is), then you’ll lose the bet before the game even started. That’s a shitty bet. I don’t make a bet on that because I’ll know from the start that I am the loser already. Don’t become a pessimist, that’s worse than being an addict.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: crwth on September 01, 2025, 07:49:41 AM
We all know that gambling itself is addictive. That means, no matter what happens, it can lead someone into an addiction. The overall role of gambling platforms is to make the players stay and play more; the reward systems, marketing strategies, and even the UI/UX are optimized to make players stay, and that's another contributor to the addiction.

There's really no way out, and if someone is really not addicted, they could easily stop; if not, then there's a problem. Control should be there to make sure that you don't get over the line.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: taufik123 on September 01, 2025, 08:11:23 AM
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There's really no way out, and if someone is really not addicted, they could easily stop; if not, then there's a problem. Control should be there to make sure that you don't get over the line.
So the main cause is ourselves, about how self-control can be done properly so as not to be addicted and not greedy to the games and bets made.
For those who are not addicted and only play for entertainment, gambling is only a place to relieve excess stress by playing and betting but with funds that have been allocated and there are limits that should not be violated.

In contrast to those who gamble with the aim of multiplying money in the hope that it will happen quickly.
But in the end it loses everything and is left with the feeling of being an addict who can't stop.

Being in such a position is really uncomfortable and keeps wanting to play until you finally realize when everything is gone.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: purple_sparkles on September 01, 2025, 08:29:51 AM
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There's really no way out, and if someone is really not addicted, they could easily stop; if not, then there's a problem. Control should be there to make sure that you don't get over the line.
So the main cause is ourselves, about how self-control can be done properly so as not to be addicted and not greedy to the games and bets made.
For those who are not addicted and only play for entertainment, gambling is only a place to relieve excess stress by playing and betting but with funds that have been allocated and there are limits that should not be violated.

In contrast to those who gamble with the aim of multiplying money in the hope that it will happen quickly.
But in the end it loses everything and is left with the feeling of being an addict who can't stop.

Being in such a position is really uncomfortable and keeps wanting to play until you finally realize when everything is gone.

I think this can happen when we take the game too seriously. After all, it’s just a game, it’s not something that should define your life. A lighter attitude will actually help you feel better overall, and the game won’t become such a problematic factor. I believe we should train ourselves to see the bigger picture of our lives. When we have a clear and realistic understanding of what we truly have, it’s simple to calculate whether we have enough money to cover our essential needs. We can say the game is either a problem for us or just entertainment. If it doesn’t affect our well-being in any way, then it’s simply entertainment, and in that case, why create problems out of nothing.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: examplens on September 01, 2025, 09:17:19 AM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
100% winning in gambling is impossible, so after some wins there are always a lot of losses. That is not enough addiction treatment.
I am convinced that if someone as a person is prone to addiction, even if he avoids gambling, he will find something else that will occupy him equally.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Cointxz on September 01, 2025, 09:46:08 AM
It’s the human greed is the root of gambling addiction. Regardless if we win or we lose, our own greediness makes us to want more either you want more profit or chase lose.

The only way to escape from this addiction is to know your limits which you will be contented already once you hit that certain milestone.

Bankroll management is the best way to get out of addiction problem.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: arwin100 on September 01, 2025, 10:05:58 AM
It’s the human greed is the root of gambling addiction. Regardless if we win or we lose, our own greediness makes us to want more either you want more profit or chase lose.

The only way to escape from this addiction is to know your limits which you will be contented already once you hit that certain milestone.

Bankroll management is the best way to get out of addiction problem.

I'm watching a documentary video earlier about gambling addiction and people says that they got hook on gambling because of this. This cycle happens and I think in this situation gamblers got hook on what they are doing.

If they are winning they want to gamble for more because they want to earn more money.

Also if they are losing they want to chase those losses they got.

Once they recover here they are want thinking about that maybe they are lucky and that time they can earn more.


Those situation always happening and with this there's huge chance for people to experience addiction in this cycle. Bankroll management is already absent if they already experience addiction. So I think rehabilitation and have proper program inside will help those gamblers experience this kind of problem.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Akbarkoe on September 01, 2025, 10:18:03 AM
Imagine being a new player and losing my first $100 in my first gaming session. It's definitely a disappointing start. I don't see how it could lead to addiction. I might think I just lost $100 and don't want to deal with gambling anymore, seeing it as a huge scam. Don't you think?
Otherwise, I might interpret that loss as: I need to recoup my losses, start betting relentlessly to recover, and then become addicted!
It really depends on how you react to what happens to you, right?
Addiction is a behavior that doesn't want to stop, doesn't know limits, and reaches satisfaction. If you can limit yourself to both the amount of money and time you gamble, I don't think addiction will be a problem, even if you want to gamble every week.

The basics of understanding gambling addiction need to be understood before gambling. Some people try it and are attracted only by the profits, which is honestly the wrong intention when it comes to gambling. Although casinos offer such things as profits for their customers, it's important to remember that they're only giving messages to the lucky ones.

You just need to limit yourself, sir. Don't chase losses, because that's where your emotions start to fluctuate. This is how people get hooked on excessive gambling, unable to let go of their hopes and expectations.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Text on September 01, 2025, 10:27:27 AM
I think while the brain’s reward system plays a massive role, not everyone who gambles becomes addicted. Some people gamble occasionally and walk away while others get trapped in the cycle of chasing wins or losses. Gambling addiction is not inevitable cause the brain can be hijacked and it can also recover with the right help and boundaries. For me it’s not just about winning or losing, it’s about how often and why we gamble and whether we have the awareness and safeguards to stop before it takes over.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Fiatless on September 01, 2025, 10:46:04 AM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
Neither wins nor losses lead to gambling addiction. Disorder in betting is caused by behavioural problems. If you have the mentality that a winning streak shows your mastery over the system,  you might start gambling excessively. You can also have problems if you assume that you can chase losses and recover all you have lost. If you gamble for fun, I don't think you will chase losses or gamble more than you can afford to lose.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Hispo on September 01, 2025, 11:01:38 AM
I think while the brain’s reward system plays a massive role, not everyone who gambles becomes addicted. Some people gamble occasionally and walk away while others get trapped in the cycle of chasing wins or losses. Gambling addiction is not inevitable cause the brain can be hijacked and it can also recover with the right help and boundaries. For me it’s not just about winning or losing, it’s about how often and why we gamble and whether we have the awareness and safeguards to stop before it takes over.

Everyone has a risk/reward system built in their brains, so even though some people are more prone to become addicted to gambling and betting, there is window for anyone to get addicted, because we are all human beings in the end.

Curiously enough, there are some psychiatric medications which mess up with the dopamine receptors of the brain, making people who have never been prone to get addicted to gambling, to get hooked up. Showing there is much dependence on the brain chemical when comes to whether one becomes a problem gambler or not..

There is a case of that well-known user of the forum who became addicted to gamble and defrauded thousands of dollars because of some medication he took.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: terrific on September 01, 2025, 11:05:18 AM
Both winning and losing can seriously lead to addiction. And it all comes from anything that's too much, we can be addicted.
So from the little things when we gamble, with the small wins that we get and as well as losses, it's where it starts.
And it is true, that if you're for fun or profit, you have the tendency to become addicted and you have no way out.
The reason why many gamblers are becoming addicted is when they have become out of control.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: len01 on September 01, 2025, 11:49:19 AM
All of these problems are really about "MONEY." One person can be happy about having a lot of money, while another can feel regret and anger over losing it. The solution to all of this is simply to stop gambling with real money and gamble with fake money. And regarding this addiction, for me, it’s not about winning or losing but about the mindset of every gambler. If gamblers truly see gambling only as entertainment, they wouldn’t keep gambling continuously and would always consider winning and losing as normal outcomes in gambling. So, it’s all about the mindset.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: passwordnow on September 01, 2025, 12:31:26 PM
The solution to all of this is simply to stop gambling with real money and gamble with fake money.
That won't make any sense for a gamble who aims for profit if he's going to do that. But you're right, it's a solution for those who can't stand to themselves whether they win or lose because after all, they're about to get addicted from it. And that's why if there are demo accounts that they can gamble with, they should be happy and enjoy with that. Otherwise, they won't consider it as an actual gambling and that's why they don't think it's as fun as real money.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Bitcoin Smith on September 01, 2025, 12:39:51 PM
First of all addiction is not something that occurs instantly it's something that builds up over the period of time and you said it right that dopamine rush is causing all these and this is happening as a result of someone is losing their control over their action and that is what addiction is all about. It doesn't matter they win or lose, when they are doing it for the wrong intentions then they will likely to become addicted but there's different levels in addiction so not everything will be showing all signs and in most cases the addicted persons will not show any signs at all and just live their life till the end.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: coin-investor on September 01, 2025, 12:51:49 PM

So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity

As long as you are not exceeding your budget in your allocation, you know how long you should play, and you can take a break anytime you want, then you maintain your sanity.

Control is everything when you are in a casino, if you are swayed by the temptation to extend your time and increase your bankroll. You have a hard time taking a break, then you are addicted to gambling, and it's taking control of you instead of you taking control of how you gamble.
This is an alarming stage and you need an intervention to get back your samity and control


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: hyudien on September 01, 2025, 12:54:03 PM
I'm sure we all know that greed is the root cause of addiction. Greed can make gamblers impulsive, whether they win or lose. Winning is certainly what we desire, but the excitement of it fuels our desire to win even more. Losing is also inevitable, as one loss can lead us to chase another. Ultimately, addiction is what we get. Greed cannot be completely avoided because it's human nature but we can minimize it through responsible gambling, meaning playing within our means and stopping at our predetermined limits, whether we win or lose.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on September 01, 2025, 01:22:55 PM
Winning or losing is not what leads to addiction, if you can remember well that addiction is not only found in gambling, but you can also see it on other aspects of life, addiction simply means that the gambler is not responsible enough from his kind of gambling pattern and such could lead to abnormal gambling behaviours from him, such could also be that the gambler exhibits the highest level of indiscipline in gambling and things are done uncoordinated.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: AbuBhakar on September 01, 2025, 01:27:06 PM
Winning or losing is not what leads to addiction, if you can remember well that addiction is not only found in gambling, but you can also see it on other aspects of life, addiction simply means that the gambler is not responsible enough from his kind of gambling pattern and such could lead to abnormal gambling behaviours from him, such could also be that the gambler exhibits the highest level of indiscipline in gambling and things are done uncoordinated.

In able to become addicted you something that will trigger your addiction either substance or anything that will make you feel satisfied when you experience it.

On this case, it’s winning and obsession to chasing losses is the frequent culprit on why many gambler becomes addicted after being exposed on gambling for a long period of time.

It’s the feeling of satisfaction is what makes people addicted.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Accardo on September 01, 2025, 01:47:43 PM
On this case, it’s winning and obsession to chasing losses is the frequent culprit on why many gambler becomes addicted after being exposed on gambling for a long period of time.

It’s the feeling of satisfaction is what makes people addicted.

Winning motivates gamblers to fall back to chasing losses, then attracts uncontrollable expectance which builds up to a weight the gamer couldn't carry anymore, it'll subdue the dopamine such that little wins won't flinch the gamer anymore. As the chase fasten up the unforseen trouble buckles up to position the gambler in a constant need for bigger wins to satisfy his/her hunger for dopamine.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on September 01, 2025, 01:51:44 PM
TLDR; it’s really our responsibility as gamblers to take care of ourselves. The problem is, a lot of people see gambling as a way to make easy money, and that kind of mindset can easily lead to addiction.

Another thing, I always hear people blaming casinos or the industry for their addiction, but in reality it’s their own choice to gamble and their own failure to manage the risk. At the end of the day it depends on the person, if we fall into severe addiction, then we also have to accept that it’s on us.
For those who truly see gambling as a way to get rich quick, this is a major reason many become addicted to gambling, and I don't think there's any doubt about it. Their gambling style also depends on their perspective. If they truly view gambling as a form of entertainment, their behavior would be unsustainable. So, this excessive behavior is indeed caused by a flawed mindset from the start.
Becoming addicted is entirely their own fault, but unfortunately, many people are unaware of their flawed behavior. Some may realize it and consider recovery, while others remain steadfast in their original mindset of seeking big wins.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Samlucky O on September 01, 2025, 01:57:35 PM
So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?
Too many questions for gambling addiction haha.
Well there is really a way out for Gambler to stay in control and not getting addicted which is simply Having self control and not letting greed take a bigger part of your emotion. Setting boundaries can be a good way of controlling addiction.

Gambling can not be inevitable since the choice is within the gambler to chose and not nature chosing it for us.

Yeah if wining and losing leeds to addiction but we can still maintain our sanity because most people are doin it perfectly well without getting addicted. It would have been a problem if everyone was a victim but however it is two sided meaning some have self control and some doesn't, and we can learn from those that have self control.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: YOSHIE on September 01, 2025, 02:08:13 PM
If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Of course there is no way out, unless you really have the intention to stop completely to gamble and really forget the gambling site forever.
A simple example:
Someone who has been addicted to cigarettes, they know that cigarettes are dangerous for their health, but no cigarette money must be available to be suctioned, a variety of debts, asking friends and so on, cigarettes must be there.

That's how for example to those who are addicted to gambling, even though they know that gambling can be detrimental or loss, the important thing is to bet with various ways, Gambling must still be played, no matter the negative or positive way to get money in placing bets.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: EluguHcman on September 01, 2025, 02:15:53 PM
Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
Yes, both winning and loosing can integrate casino or gambling sites users to be addicted if they are too curious that they don't even understand that the more they gamble without budgets and just focuses on their zeal playing to win on the desperacy they could hurt themselves out of lack of self control.

So the only way to stay addiction free whether you are winning or loosing is to stay aware that spending more than you can afford when loose in gambling does not worth it but only gamble with what you can afford to loose. These values may comprise of both funds and time.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: rachael9385 on September 01, 2025, 02:28:18 PM
Winning can propel you to keep on gambling and losing can also do the same, the way out of this is to set a limit for yourself. A gambler that doesn't have a boundary would definitely fall for one of these, you might find yourself losing money all in the process of gambling to make more profit after winning and you can also lose while trying to recover your losses, have a daily limit that. You don't exceed


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: imamusma on September 01, 2025, 02:28:50 PM
So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?
Too many questions for gambling addiction haha.
Well there is really a way out for Gambler to stay in control and not getting addicted which is simply Having self control and not letting greed take a bigger part of your emotion. Setting boundaries can be a good way of controlling addiction.

Gambling can not be inevitable since the choice is within the gambler to chose and not nature chosing it for us.

Yeah if wining and losing leeds to addiction but we can still maintain our sanity because most people are doin it perfectly well without getting addicted. It would have been a problem if everyone was a victim but however it is two sided meaning some have self control and some doesn't, and we can learn from those that have self control.
It must be acknowledged that at some point every gambler may have felt frustrated, bored, had problems in life, and so on. All of this is due to gambling in the wrong way, which crosses the line and causes many disruptions in daily life. I think gambling problems aren't just about financial losses, there are people who have problems because they invest too much of their time in gambling. At that point, every gambler shouldn't have to think hard about how to find a way out, what needs to be done is to stop.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: o48o on September 01, 2025, 03:12:36 PM
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So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?
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Why would you jump to that conclusion. And why would it always lead to addiction? Majority of people can use substances, watch tv, gamble, eat sugar or do anything addictive, without getting addicted.

But people are different and if you happen to have addictive personality that gets easily hooked, ADHD or something else, you might get addicted more easily, as your dopamine system isn't working in healthy way.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Crypto Library on September 01, 2025, 04:01:35 PM
It must be acknowledged that at some point every gambler may have felt frustrated, bored, had problems in life, and so on. All of this is due to gambling in the wrong way, which crosses the line and causes many disruptions in daily life. I think gambling problems aren't just about financial losses, there are people who have problems because they invest too much of their time in gambling. At that point, every gambler shouldn't have to think hard about how to find a way out, what needs to be done is to stop.
I will agree with you that all those gamblers will at some point acknowledge that they are frustrated, bored, had the others problems in life because of gambling but it is only those gamblers who were addicted. But there is no possibility of this happening to those who are not addicted to gambling and only play it occasionally for entertainment.
Now the main fact is that we have to take care of this aspect so that we do not become addicted to gambling at any time, and the way to do this, I think, is to not forget the basic fact that gambling is only for entertainment. And so, just as we don't spend all our money on other entertainment, we have to use a certain amount of funds for gambling.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: panjul07 on September 01, 2025, 04:04:03 PM
Greed is the main reason why people get addicted while gambling, greed on winning because they want more and greed on losing because they want to recover what they lost.
There is no other way to get out from addiction except self-control, as long as we can control ourselves on both winning and losing, we can minimize the possibility of addiction.
Learn to set a limit on both situation; winning and losing, although it is not as easy as what it said but if we do not try it then our greed will be much stronger than our self control.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on September 01, 2025, 04:05:07 PM
Addiction comes at unaware to many after a long time of excessive exposure to gambling or doing something, before they know it, they are already used to that particular thing and the same thing is affecting them negatively in some certain areas they seems to pay less attention to, i will only advise that we should gamble as according to what we can afford, secondly, moderacy in everything is very important, if we gamble and apply caution to it, we may not be affected into addiction.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Slow death on September 01, 2025, 04:13:33 PM
There has always been a way out: people view gambling as entertainment only. They don't view gambling as a means of profit because it leads to ruin; this is more than proven. Many people may even challenge this, but few people actually manage to make a lot of money gambling. That's why copying such people is not a good path. In my opinion, people should play for fun and only with amounts they can afford to lose.

This way, they can also strive to win big. For example, someone who puts in $10 a week and doesn't need the $10. This person can play a slot game with the highest possible multiplier. In each section, they can put in $0.20, and if they hit the 1000x multiplier, they'll have a lot of money. If they lose, that's also fine.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: 348Judah on September 01, 2025, 04:19:48 PM
There are ways out of gambling addictions, but they are not that easy to achieve doing, because it takes some extra commitments to ensure that gambling addiction is resolved, the better for us to realize that we don't have to be into before looking for a way out, that is why prevention is more better than cure, in gambling, we had better not to get addicted for any reason than being focused more on repeated gambling till we get addicted.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: salad daging on September 01, 2025, 04:35:08 PM
There are ways out of gambling addictions, but they are not that easy to achieve doing, because it takes some extra commitments to ensure that gambling addiction is resolved, the better for us to realize that we don't have to be into before looking for a way out, that is why prevention is more better than cure, in gambling, we had better not to get addicted for any reason than being focused more on repeated gambling till we get addicted.
Breaking an addiction cannot be done all at once, but rather gradually, where you will need strong, consistent support—at the very least, encouragement from your loved ones to help you overcome your addiction.

At the very least, if you are severely addicted due to greed, never gamble excessively. Reduce the amount of time you spend gambling so that you can break free from it all.
I know this won't be easy, but there is definitely a way out of gambling addiction. It depends on how determined the person is to do it.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: mcdouglasx on September 01, 2025, 04:51:18 PM
I think that addiction goes far beyond what we really believe, because not all of us fall into addictions, which leads me to the conclusion that many of us look for something that makes us feel good, I think that gambling makes us feel, whether good or bad, and addictions are based on that feeling, if we do not know how to manage emotions we fall into that cycle and it does not only happen with gambling it happens with love and personal relationships.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Fredomago on September 01, 2025, 04:54:02 PM
On this case, it’s winning and obsession to chasing losses is the frequent culprit on why many gambler becomes addicted after being exposed on gambling for a long period of time.

It’s the feeling of satisfaction is what makes people addicted.

Winning motivates gamblers to fall back to chasing losses, then attracts uncontrollable expectance which builds up to a weight the gamer couldn't carry anymore, it'll subdue the dopamine such that little wins won't flinch the gamer anymore. As the chase fasten up the unforseen trouble buckles up to position the gambler in a constant need for bigger wins to satisfy his/her hunger for dopamine.

The problem with chasing loses as you said is there's no amount anymore that will satisfy the desired of winning, what inside the mind of that gambler is the lust that he need to please, most of the time greed leads to addiction unable to control greed will lead you to a difficult situation, it's your own Self will that may let you avoid getting addicted, but practice and discipline is tough whenever you are inside gambling and playing your session.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Obim34 on September 01, 2025, 04:58:22 PM
Neither wins nor losses lead to gambling addiction. Disorder in betting is caused by behavioural problems. If you have the mentality that a winning streak shows your mastery over the system,  you might start gambling excessively. You can also have problems if you assume that you can chase losses and recover all you have lost. If you gamble for fun, I don't think you will chase losses or gamble more than you can afford to lose.
You are disapproving in one sentence and approving in the other. Both losses and wins are catalyst that leads to gambling addiction. What do you do and how do you feel after some winning streaks? don't you feel the urge to try again, maybe this time with a bigger amount, while greed is part of what propels a gambler to pursue more wins, winning consecutively can feel like a good luck charm, leading to extreme gambling addiction. Most gamblers are not okay settling with their bet whenever they lose, they keep in mind that next one might be the lucky chance they get to win and cover up for other losses.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: mirakal on September 01, 2025, 05:22:10 PM
Regardless if you playing for fun, or playing for the profits, if you play beyond the normal level you are expected to play, and you get so involved, you can become addicted, same ways if you win or you lose in gambling you can still be addicted.


What matters is how you gambling, and not or what you get from gambling, whatever you do too much is already addictions, when it becomes uncontrollably done multiple times
Exactly. If you gamble maximum of your time like it’s an abuse already, whether it’s a win or loss, that already is a proof that you are a gambling addict. You don’t set limits when it comes to your money and time, and you gamble all you want to, like almost 24/7 as long as you have funds to bet, that only shows your gambling addiction is extreme.

However, mostly, those who fall for addiction are those who gamble for profits, and even if they lose or win, they will never stop gambling because they thought gambling more will attract more profits to win.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: icebar on September 01, 2025, 07:04:02 PM
Gamblers' addiction usually increases due to excessive gambling. Even if a gambler loses, he can still be addicted, and even if he wins, he will still have the possibility of addiction. In both cases, a gambler can be addicted. That is why setting limits in gambling is an important issue. You have to control yourself even if you win, and you should control yourself even if you lose. When someone goes out of control and gambles, he will become addicted and lose everything. Those who gamble a lot are the most addicted though not everyone is the same.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Jawhead999 on September 01, 2025, 07:27:52 PM
This is the reason why playing for fun is no different from playing for profit.  Both groups experience wins and losses, which makes our brain release dopamine that can trigger addiction.
The purpose is different.

Winning and losing do affect your emotion, but it shouldn't be the main reason to make decision. If you let your emotion to control you, you will end up become an addict. If you play for fun, you won't really care with the amount of how much you win or loss, because you're under control.

Just like the way men control their dick, if we see women in front of us, we have to control it instead of fuck them without their consent. But, it doesn't mean you have to control in your whole life, because you have to release your cum at least a month to reduce the risk of prostate cancer.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Rockstarguy on September 01, 2025, 08:19:39 PM
But wait, how does losing contribute to addiction?
Gambling is all about understanding, and what leads to addiction is the lack of understanding, which is also ignorance. If you have a wrong understanding about gambling wins, it can lead you to gambling addiction, and if you misunderstand gambling losses, it can also lead to addiction.

Gamblers do exhibit greed in gambling; when they lose, they feel they need to recover their losses, and when there is also a win, some gamblers feel they deserve more, and they go on to gamble more. The problem of gambling addiction is just a matter of understanding or not doing things right. There are some gamblers who already understand gambling, but they decide to go about gambling the wrong way; they also end up becoming addicted to gambling.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on September 01, 2025, 08:28:37 PM
Gamblers' addiction usually increases due to excessive gambling. Even if a gambler loses, he can still be addicted, and even if he wins, he will still have the possibility of addiction. In both cases, a gambler can be addicted. That is why setting limits in gambling is an important issue. You have to control yourself even if you win, and you should control yourself even if you lose. When someone goes out of control and gambles, he will become addicted and lose everything. Those who gamble a lot are the most addicted though not everyone is the same.
I agree, both cases can make a gambler be addicted. The impact is giving us that adrenaline rush and makes us to crave for more of it. So, being a winner and a loser have their own effects to us. Depending on how we have that understanding to these impacts to ourselves and how we take them. There is a way out because if there's none, all of us won't be able to get out. We have to listen to those who were able to overcome their addiction and to those who able to control it.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: lionheart78 on September 01, 2025, 08:35:21 PM

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So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?" 

There is and this is dependent on how a gambler control himself.  Self-control is the best way for gamblers to stay in control while not leaving their favorite gambling games.  He must exercise responsible gambling and bankroll management.  Set limiters both in time and in fund.  If any of these limiter is reached, end the session.  This will give a gambler time to divert his attention and do things that will balance out his activity.

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Is gambling addiction inevitable??
 
Gambling addiction can be avoided, it just needs proper management gambling activities.  If one feels he is getting addicted to gambling, he can always pause his gambling activity and divert his attention to somewhere else.  This can help suspend the developing gambling addiction.  It is much better if the gambler can determine the do's and dont's in gambling, this will increase his resistance to gambling addiction.

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If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?

Self-control is the keyword.  Gamble responsibly and ask help if something is amiss.




Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Crypto Library on September 01, 2025, 09:36:15 PM
Losing or winning does not determine whether a person becomes addicted to gambling. Gambling addiction occurs in people who cannot control their greed or who take gambling too seriously and instead of gambling responsibly, use excess funds that they cannot afford to lose. And in this case, people are basically addicted to gambling even if they lose or even if they win.

But those who gamble responsibly and spend a certain amount of funds that they can afford to lose do not become addicted to gambling, even if they lose constantly.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Gozie51 on September 01, 2025, 09:47:38 PM

So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?




I think this is the important point of your post.

So losing control in gambling and chasing losses are a result of greed. Gamblers can run away from addiction by the time they are gambling to the limit of their bankroll and how can they do that? , it is by gambling as they can afford. It is greed that leads to irresponsible gambling and by that the gambler loses control.

As to the winning side, some gamblers are Oliver twist and that is their own part to falling and getting addicted. If you win and don't exit but decide to continue, you have given room for loses and that is why when you are a winner, you can also become a loser.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Asiska02 on September 01, 2025, 10:45:47 PM
Regardless if you playing for fun, or playing for the profits, if you play beyond the normal level you are expected to play, and you get so involved, you can become addicted, same ways if you win or you lose in gambling you can still be addicted.

What matters is how you gambling, and not or what you get from gambling, whatever you do too much is already addictions, when it becomes uncontrollably done multiple times

Some will think losing in gambling will make you want to stop gambling and not get addicted but that’s not how it works for many gamblers. For gamblers that still get addicted even when they face many losses, they’re those that always want to chase their loss and not give up to accept loss to come back another time again. Those that are winning and still addicted is as a result of greediness and not satisfy with little profits and aim for bigger wins, not knowing that they’re risking there little profit, their capital and risking getting addicted more.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: robelneo on September 01, 2025, 11:03:25 PM


So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?

It’s all about approach and summary. If you approach gambling with the right attitude and goals in mind, which is to have fun, and you can summarize your experience from time to time, whether you win or lose, you still have complete control of what you’re doing in the casino.
Gambling addiction happens when you lose control, not when you are winning or losing. Of course, you want to try to win again as your reason to come back to the casino, but if you know your limitations and understand that it could lead to more losses, then you will do the right thing.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Darker45 on September 02, 2025, 12:03:43 AM
Because it's not winning or losing that actually makes one addicted to gambling. It's gambling itself that's addictive. Whether you lose or win, you're always attracted to go back to the casino.

So, is there no way out for gamblers? I don't think so. For one, there's control and discipline. We can always say no or enough. But if it isn't your strength to say no, then there are a hundred ways to distract yourself from gambling. There are so many activities that are as fun, even more fun than gambling.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 02, 2025, 12:59:51 AM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
Neither wins nor losses lead to gambling addiction. Disorder in betting is caused by behavioural problems. If you have the mentality that a winning streak shows your mastery over the system,  you might start gambling excessively. You can also have problems if you assume that you can chase losses and recover all you have lost. If you gamble for fun, I don't think you will chase losses or gamble more than you can afford to lose.

You are right mate, if a gambling gets addicted to gambling either because of winning or losing, in one way or the gambler caused the problem for them self and this can be prevented when the person already fixed their habits or knows how to control their emotions by not allowing either of those outcome to cause gambling addiction for them. Like myself, the earlier time that I almost became addicted to gambling was because I was targeting a huge win, though I was losing but I was not chasing losses, rather I was just expecting the win to come. I didn't become  addicted because I controlled the habit.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Text on September 02, 2025, 03:25:41 AM
Everyone has a risk/reward system built in their brains, so even though some people are more prone to become addicted to gambling and betting, there is window for anyone to get addicted, because we are all human beings in the end.

Curiously enough, there are some psychiatric medications which mess up with the dopamine receptors of the brain, making people who have never been prone to get addicted to gambling, to get hooked up. Showing there is much dependence on the brain chemical when comes to whether one becomes a problem gambler or not..

There is a case of that well-known user of the forum who became addicted to gamble and defrauded thousands of dollars because of some medication he took.
That’s because it shows how tightly gambling addiction is linked to biology not just choice. I still believe that addiction is more complex than just our brain chemistry. It's the interplay between our biology and other factors like our environment, personal history and psychological state that ultimately determines whether or not we develop an addiction. some people are better equipped to avoid falling into the trap. That's why I think awareness and personal boundaries are so important they're the safeguards that can help us recognize when our behavior is becoming a problem and take steps to stop.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: maydna on September 02, 2025, 04:21:31 AM
A normal gambling session can causes gambling addiction if he doesn't have self-control. That will make him return to the casino very often but he doesn't realize the reason. He just wants to return and playing gambling, continuing what he's done before. If he loses, he wants to revenge and take his money back, although that is not easy.

But if he wins, he wants to get more wins in the next days. He will not realize that his winning is because of his lucky. He will get difficult to win. But he will get more chances to get addicted to gambling. That is why he need to be careful playing gambling and not spend too much money. Always control yourself with limitations so you will stay away from the problems.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Pi-network314159 on September 02, 2025, 04:22:01 AM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
Well in this last part of your paragraph I will say yes, both a person who gamble for fun and a person who gamble for profit may still both get addicted since the desire or fun to win is there, he or she may just continue to Play repeatedly till they lose a large amount of money
Chasing win or lose, they will later discover they are addicted Gambler despite what type of gamblers they claim to be. The fact is that people keep on saying gambling for fun and for profit but the actual sense is that every gambler is profit minded, that's why they go extra mile to make sure they win.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on September 02, 2025, 05:34:07 AM
The excitement that runs through our brain is the very reason why gambling is being an addiction.
The happiness we are feeling when we are playing that runs through are vein, The feeling of winning and the eagerness to get back when you are losing.
Those are the reasons why gambling gets addicted. Control is very hard, that we should have in playing.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Shinpako09 on September 02, 2025, 06:06:06 AM
Yeah, that’s why you really need strong discipline, coz no matter what results you get, you’ll end up getting hooked. But having discipline is easier said than done. If winning is hard in gambling, then having discipline is just as hard. It’s tough to control your emotions, when you win, your confidence gets boosted, and even if you know there are no continuous wins, you still think you can always do it. When you lose, frustration kicks in and you try to win it back, and since you’ve managed to win before, the chase continues until you win it back or your bankroll gets depleted.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Marvelockg on September 02, 2025, 06:20:44 AM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
Do you know that eating food can kill and not eating food can as well kill? does that then mean that eating food should be seen as a bad thing or that we should stop eating food just because if we eat too much of it we can die in the process. the reason why winning can lead to addiction is because some that are too greedy always comes for more even when they have won thinking that they will continue getting lucky. they continue coming till they eventually lose it all in the process and someway somehow try recovering their loss and eventually get themselves trapped in the mess. same is usually the case with losses as people try to recover their loss and that becomes another form of wrong entanglement.

the way out is just to gamble responsibly even when you are winning or losing. set clear plan and ensure you follow it up to the latter. it does not cost much to be a responsible gambler. just do not allow greed come in your way.



Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Kelward on September 02, 2025, 06:59:38 AM
Yeah, that’s why you really need strong discipline, coz no matter what results you get, you’ll end up getting hooked. But having discipline is easier said than done. If winning is hard in gambling, then having discipline is just as hard. It’s tough to control your emotions, when you win, your confidence gets boosted, and even if you know there are no continuous wins, you still think you can always do it. When you lose, frustration kicks in and you try to win it back, and since you’ve managed to win before, the chase continues until you win it back or your bankroll gets depleted.
The way out for gambling addiction whether it's through winning or losing is to have self control which is also discipline. Gamblers don't have control over the outcomes of the games that they play, they don't know whether they will win or not, what they have control over is their bankroll. If you have a total control over your bankroll and the time to stop gambling it won't matter if you're winning or losing you cannot become addicted. To be a disciplined gambler is not easy you need to practice it and gradually it'll become a part of you. Bankroll management in gambling centers on using amount that you can afford to loose.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: @nn@_pen9 on September 02, 2025, 07:07:42 AM
Gamblers' addiction usually increases due to excessive gambling. Even if a gambler loses, he can still be addicted, and even if he wins, he will still have the possibility of addiction. In both cases, a gambler can be addicted. That is why setting limits in gambling is an important issue. You have to control yourself even if you win, and you should control yourself even if you lose. When someone goes out of control and gambles, he will become addicted and lose everything. Those who gamble a lot are the most addicted though not everyone is the same.
Yes, it is addiction that makes them fall into financial or other difficulties. Indeed, we should realize that gambling cannot be a mainstay to meet our financial needs. If we realize this, of course our gambling will not get out of control. Realizing that gambling is not a solution to financial problems is an important step so that we can control ourselves and not fall deeper. The main key in gambling problems is self-awareness and good bankroll management, and besides that, it is also important to always remember that gambling should only be done as entertainment or for fun.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: AmaGold70 on September 02, 2025, 07:14:32 AM


I doubt it that winning adds to gambling addiction, it is only losing that makes gamblers get addicted to gambling because they keep chasing losses and thereby playing over over again trying to win back what they have lost. I'm a gambler to an extent though and I can gladly say that I'm not an addict because I don't chase losses, and of course discipline and self control are involved in my gambling journey, for any gambler it is very important to check your confidence level and ask yourself questions about the way you gamble and always apply self control while gambling. Gambling addiction is very much inevitable if only you can frequently ask yourself questions about your gambling habits because I have come to understand that greed is the only thing that gets us addicted to gambling in a bad way faster.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: DPHOR on September 02, 2025, 07:50:08 AM
Yeah, that’s why you really need strong discipline, coz no matter what results you get, you’ll end up getting hooked. But having discipline is easier said than done. If winning is hard in gambling, then having discipline is just as hard. It’s tough to control your emotions, when you win, your confidence gets boosted, and even if you know there are no continuous wins, you still think you can always do it. When you lose, frustration kicks in and you try to win it back, and since you’ve managed to win before, the chase continues until you win it back or your bankroll gets depleted.
There are few things to implement in order to stay control while gambling (becoming conscious):
- As a gambler, it's important to have limited time while gambling.
- Reducing much hope to win some certain amount from gambling.
- Set a fixed amount to gamble with that particular day.
- Not gambling without setting a total amount to gambling with for the month/week.
- After first win or second win it's advisable to exit the gambling site than continuing gambling (this could trigger more loses).


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on September 02, 2025, 08:01:16 AM
A normal gambling session can causes gambling addiction if he doesn't have self-control. That will make him return to the casino very often but he doesn't realize the reason. He just wants to return and playing gambling, continuing what he's done before. If he loses, he wants to revenge and take his money back, although that is not easy.

But if he wins, he wants to get more wins in the next days. He will not realize that his winning is because of his lucky. He will get difficult to win. But he will get more chances to get addicted to gambling. That is why he need to be careful playing gambling and not spend too much money. Always control yourself with limitations so you will stay away from the problems.
This happens because they aren't prepared to lose their deposited money, so when they lose, they think about how to turn things around by betting again, rather than quitting and walking away. Accepting defeat is one way to gamble effectively. If we can't accept defeat, our gambling will be irresponsible.
Winning or losing can indeed trigger us to continue gambling. This depends on our own gambling style. Now, if we can control ourselves, whether we win or lose, stopping the gambling session is a possible option.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: iBaba on September 02, 2025, 09:30:07 AM
Addiction comes at unaware to many after a long time of excessive exposure to gambling or doing something, before they know it, they are already used to that particular thing and the same thing is affecting them negatively in some certain areas they seems to pay less attention to, i will only advise that we should gamble as according to what we can afford, secondly, moderacy in everything is very important, if we gamble and apply caution to it, we may not be affected into addiction.

Too much of every thing is bad and this is the reason why we must always learn to do things in moderation. Allowing your self to engage in one particular form of act for too long is what can increase your addiction tendency. But there's one thing I've also realised and it is that people get addicted easily to negative things than positive things and this thought keeps me wondering why though. It is very difficult to see where an individual gets addicted to worshipping God or doing other righteous things but it is very easy to get addicted to negative side of things like gambling among other things.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: bubilas on September 02, 2025, 09:31:10 AM


I doubt it that winning adds to gambling addiction, it is only losing that makes gamblers get addicted to gambling because they keep chasing losses and thereby playing over over again trying to win back what they have lost. I'm a gambler to an extent though and I can gladly say that I'm not an addict because I don't chase losses, and of course discipline and self control are involved in my gambling journey, for any gambler it is very important to check your confidence level and ask yourself questions about the way you gamble and always apply self control while gambling. Gambling addiction is very much inevitable if only you can frequently ask yourself questions about your gambling habits because I have come to understand that greed is the only thing that gets us addicted to gambling in a bad way faster.

Watch confessions of addicted gamblers on YouTube and you will find out that it was a big win at the beginning of their gambling practice that became the reason for their entire disastrous path.
Very often many of them use an expression like "It would have been better if I hadn't won then, and then I would have become disillusioned with gambling and would have simply quit instead of continuing to play."

I think this is how many people quit gambling, disappointed that they didn't win anything. And those who did win begin to feel a constant hope of winning again.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: ultrloa on September 02, 2025, 09:32:53 AM
Addiction comes at unaware to many after a long time of excessive exposure to gambling or doing something, before they know it, they are already used to that particular thing and the same thing is affecting them negatively in some certain areas they seems to pay less attention to, i will only advise that we should gamble as according to what we can afford, secondly, moderacy in everything is very important, if we gamble and apply caution to it, we may not be affected into addiction.

Too much of every thing is bad and this is the reason why we must always learn to do things in moderation. Allowing your self to engage in one particular form of act for too long is what can increase your addiction tendency. But there's one thing I've also realised and it is that people get addicted easily to negative things than positive things and this thought keeps me wondering why though. It is very difficult to see where an individual gets addicted to worshipping God or doing other righteous things but it is very easy to get addicted to negative side of things like gambling among other things.

Right because they won't go in that situation if in first place they know how to settle up on things and don't fall on something they can't afford to happen. Although we could understand that situation really happen but we can do lot of things just to avoid falling from addiction.

Greed is the main factor on why people got compromised by this what they called by other people disease. If they know how to control their selves towards engaging on more excessive things in this activity then there's good chance that they are fine and could able to gamble without getting any deep issues in life.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: serjent05 on September 02, 2025, 10:07:29 AM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
Neither wins nor losses lead to gambling addiction. Disorder in betting is caused by behavioural problems. If you have the mentality that a winning streak shows your mastery over the system,  you might start gambling excessively. You can also have problems if you assume that you can chase losses and recover all you have lost. If you gamble for fun, I don't think you will chase losses or gamble more than you can afford to lose.

Can you explain to us these behavioural problems? This piques my interest.  Does not winning and losing affect this behavior if not can you explain how these wins and losses do not affect the gambler behavior?  What triggers these behavioural problems?


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: RealNoblee on September 02, 2025, 11:30:03 AM

You are right mate, if a gambling gets addicted to gambling either because of winning or losing, in one way or the gambler caused the problem for them self and this can be prevented when the person already fixed their habits or knows how to control their emotions by not allowing either of those outcome to cause gambling addiction for them. Like myself, the earlier time that I almost became addicted to gambling was because I was targeting a huge win, though I was losing but I was not chasing losses, rather I was just expecting the win to come. I didn't become  addicted because I controlled the habit.

One thing is that the odds for each gambling game are carefully packaged in favor of the casino. This means that, the more you play, the more the math works against you, and the better the chances are of you walking out of the casino with less money in your wallet than when you came in..

But the ability for some to realize and walk away is the problem, rather they are engulfed with the mentality of getting all that is put in. Thereby getting trapped and overwhelmed by it.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Doan9269 on September 02, 2025, 11:36:44 AM
In every challenges of life, there are always escape routes for us, but many couldn't have the ability of knowing how they could escape from their challenges and be free, though it does not comes as that easy to influence a change on what we have probably been used to and can't afford a day without doing that same thing, but applying a curative measure to tackle it can help and go much better for us, it may not comes as easy as we may expect, but the way out lies in our hands, since we are the one that got into it the first place, if determined, we can always find a way out by our determination.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Dave1 on September 02, 2025, 11:38:59 AM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
Neither wins nor losses lead to gambling addiction. Disorder in betting is caused by behavioural problems. If you have the mentality that a winning streak shows your mastery over the system,  you might start gambling excessively. You can also have problems if you assume that you can chase losses and recover all you have lost. If you gamble for fun, I don't think you will chase losses or gamble more than you can afford to lose.

Can you explain to us these behavioural problems? This piques my interest.  Does not winning and losing affect this behavior if not can you explain how these wins and losses do not affect the gambler behavior?  What triggers these behavioural problems?

The way I understand it, it's all on the mindset of the gambling. So we must be positive that we are going to win no matter what the odds are. But then when the opposite happens, then you might want to recover that lost that will lead to gambling addiction.

And when when you chase and assume that it is the correct way, but then again, as we don't know the outcome and we still lose, then behavorial problem surfaces. So the best solution is just to play for fun and entertain and play with the money that you can afford to lose so that there will be no chasing losses and recouping your money as it is designed to be burn in gambling.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: junder on September 02, 2025, 11:42:03 AM

You are right mate, if a gambling gets addicted to gambling either because of winning or losing, in one way or the gambler caused the problem for them self and this can be prevented when the person already fixed their habits or knows how to control their emotions by not allowing either of those outcome to cause gambling addiction for them. Like myself, the earlier time that I almost became addicted to gambling was because I was targeting a huge win, though I was losing but I was not chasing losses, rather I was just expecting the win to come. I didn't become  addicted because I controlled the habit.
While some people may find it easy to recognize their wrong behavior and correct it, many still gamble repeatedly, even more aggressively, despite realizing their wrong behavior. This happens because they have high expectations of gambling, believing that every gamble will or should result in a win.
This is more about individual thinking or mindset. If the mindset is flawed, even winning can trigger addiction, let alone losing.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Satofan44 on September 02, 2025, 11:53:36 AM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
Simply because it is inherently addictive behavior. Any way you engage with it builds an addiction, similar to drugs. There is no way to interact with it without it building an addiction.

This is the reason why playing for fun is no different from playing for profit.  Both groups experience wins and losses, which makes our brain release dopamine that can trigger addiction.

So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?
There isn't really. You're always having a dance with addiction, and trying to play for fun is just giving you sufficient time away from the game to stay somewhat in control. That does not mean that it is under control at all, it just means that the addiction is always close to catching you.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Oluwa-btc on September 02, 2025, 03:32:07 PM
It's not just easy to tackle,the thrill of a win excites someone,and the frustration from a loss makes one want to go back and correct the mistakes which keeps the circle going rounder.This phase requires emotional intelligence,self exclusion,set boundaries and limit access;know the pattern and stay guided.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: hedgeh0g on September 02, 2025, 04:37:10 PM
It's not just easy to tackle,the thrill of a win excites someone,and the frustration from a loss makes one want to go back and correct the mistakes which keeps the circle going rounder.This phase requires emotional intelligence,self exclusion,set boundaries and limit access;know the pattern and stay guided.

And often the gambler experiences so-called emotional swings - this is a state when his mood changes very quickly: joy to sadness, sadness to anger, and anger will change back to joy and this happens several times a minute and because of this, even the calmest person will begin to behave like a neurasthenic.
So when such a gambler gets a sudden big win, then, of course, he will jump up in his chair and scream with joy, and this will not be typical behavior for him, but unfortunately, gambling does exactly this to people. It makes their mood more unstable.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: HistoLock on September 02, 2025, 05:04:18 PM
Gambling only because a problem of addiction if one allows it to be. It's almost the same with how other forms of addiction work so that's why I agree that even constant winnings can contribute indirectly to the addiction. One mentality that fuels gambling a lot is the fact that in gambling, you can only lose 100% of your money but you can win as much as 1000x worth of profit.

If you do it long enough to convince your brain that it's a need must situation, then it becomes an addiction.
Gambling addiction is so strange that I have also noticed that those who gamble become more interested in gambling after winning and are pushed towards addiction. On the other hand, it is also seen that those who lose play again to get back their lost money and become addicted. So this shows that gambling is the cause of addiction in both winning and losing. If you are motivated by gambling and play constantly then I would say that you play for a short time and only in your free time when you are free to do nothing. Yes, this is also coming back if you gamble you will not even understand when you will lose all your money and you will not even realize in which direction you will win it is quite strange. So I would say that if you do not control it if you become emotional then gambling will be a huge addiction.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Solodoski on September 02, 2025, 05:16:03 PM
I totally agree that gambling addiction has to do with mindset. In your illustration all that helped your friend is his mindset, some other person might feel so confident after winning his first bet and continue gambling, but he choose to stop after winning,  so its just his mind set.
Gambling is very addictive and you getting addicted does not matter if you win or lose, it has to do with your mindset and how discipline you are in life generally,  then you will be able to know how to gamble and not get addicted to it.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: uchegod-21 on September 02, 2025, 05:16:22 PM
This whole confusion  about what exactly leads to gambling addiction proves a point that you can get addicted at any point if you let gambling control you. We must not forget that addiction doesn't just happen, it takes time for one to get very comfortable with whatever he is doing, and with time, it becomes impossible to let it go.

People have different gambling goals, it could be to either make profits, recover losses or just have fun. If one pursues these goals tirelessly and consistently for a while, they make themselves at risk of becoming addicted.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: swogerino on September 02, 2025, 05:20:40 PM
This whole confusion  about what exactly leads to gambling addiction proves a point that you can get addicted at any point if you let gambling control you. We must not forget that addiction doesn't just happen, it takes time for one to get very comfortable with whatever he is doing, and with time, it becomes impossible to let it go.

People have different gambling goals, it could be to either make profits, recover losses or just have fun. If one pursues these goals tirelessly and consistently for a while, they make themselves at risk of becoming addicted.

It does not that a whole lot of time though and mostly it depends on the personality of the gambler being involved. I know people who were mad for just losing 10 dollars at the offline casinos many many years ago and those people were able to quit right after, there were other types though, usually calm who said, let's try another 10 and then let's try another ten, day by day they were becoming involved and no matter if they won or lost, they kept coming back until they were addicted and the only thing they were thinking was gambling. So winning or losing is not that important, the behavior of the person receiving winning or losing is what really defines what leads to gambling addiction more than anything else.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: IjawMan on September 02, 2025, 06:10:26 PM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
Simply because it is inherently addictive behavior. Any way you engage with it builds an addiction, similar to drugs. There is no way to interact with it without it building an addiction.
Interacting with gamble does not essentially makes the individual to be an addict after all, it is about your discipline application with gambling. On engagement to gambling you do not have to act abusive to it, when there is a loss or a win accept it because gambling is a coin with two sides that if you are not losing then you are winning. When you are experiencing any of the outcome never chase because that's how you get into addiction


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: serjent05 on September 03, 2025, 11:32:17 PM
I am really intrigued by how a normal gambling session can lead to gambling addiction.  I read people saying winning in a gambling session can lead to gambling addiction, while I read in articles that losing also leads to gambling addiction.  Does this mean that whether a person gambles for fun or for profit will be a gambling addict, since both winning and losing are experienced by the same group.
Simply because it is inherently addictive behavior. Any way you engage with it builds an addiction, similar to drugs. There is no way to interact with it without it building an addiction.

True, people engaging in gambling are always exposed and at risk of gambling addiction. Winning and losing always affect the player's emotions, which in turn produce dopamine.  As the brain produces dopamine, the person's tolerance to its effect increases, but the gambler longs for the experience they had when it was high, so they tend to increase the level of activity, like increasing the amount of bets just to re-experience such a high feeling.

This is the reason why playing for fun is no different from playing for profit.  Both groups experience wins and losses, which makes our brain release dopamine that can trigger addiction.

So the question is, "Is there really no way out for gamblers to stay fit and in control?"  Is gambling addiction inevitable??   If winning and losing lead to addiction, how can we maintain our sanity?
There isn't really. You're always having a dance with addiction, and trying to play for fun is just giving you sufficient time away from the game to stay somewhat in control. That does not mean that it is under control at all, it just means that the addiction is always close to catching you.

Who knows, there are people who are playing for fun who eventually got addicted to gambling.  As far as I know, once a person loses control over their gambling activity, that is the beginning of a person's gambling addiction.

We can never expect what will happen between a session, where we think that we are playing for fun something might happen that can trigger a person to get hooked, lose control and eventually become addicted to gambling. 

People tend to blame the casino ( that will only worsen the case), instead of accepting their shortcomings.  Acknowledging what done wrong is one way of returning to sanity since a gambler knows it was his mistake and people who did this eventually change their behavior toward their gambling activity and return to their sanity.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Fredomago on September 04, 2025, 02:04:30 AM
I totally agree that gambling addiction has to do with mindset. In your illustration all that helped your friend is his mindset, some other person might feel so confident after winning his first bet and continue gambling, but he choose to stop after winning,  so its just his mind set.
Gambling is very addictive and you getting addicted does not matter if you win or lose, it has to do with your mindset and how discipline you are in life generally,  then you will be able to know how to gamble and not get addicted to it.

Your own discipline will save your butt into this possible messed that may lead you to addiction, same with you, gambling is addicting and those who unable to control their emotions will lead themselves to ruining both their finances and their relationship, self-control that's comes inside you and the daily practices of such act will keep you in the safer side, while if you misshandled such things and exceed from your set limitations, that's the time that you will start to see yourself being dominated by your emotions and addiction can be the possible outcome.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: TheUltraElite on September 04, 2025, 03:29:21 AM
The surge of pleasure after having won money by doing nothing is high and is often the reason behind a dopamine release. This experience is often wanted by the person who has experienced it once and therefore they gamble again. This is basically how even one gambling win will lead to addiction.

The way out is to distance yourself from gambling completely and immerse yourself in things that you enjoy doing, those that are not destructive but give a happy feeling.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Hatchy on September 04, 2025, 04:25:33 PM
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I totally agree that winning can contribute to ones addiction life. That's true because during our wins, we find our self in a kind of state when we are so full with ideas and had I known taughts. Things begins to run through our mind thinking that if we had just risked more, probably we would have made an amazing amount of money. Then we plan that the next round of game was would increase our risk with full confidence.

Unfortunately we loss the money. Then a second taught would be that maybe this wasn't a good round, so we try again and again ending in an endless round of loss.. that's when addiction comes to play a major role.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 04, 2025, 05:30:06 PM
I have extensively discussed about this phenomenon calling it as the "cycle of gambling" where a gambler, regardless of the result of his game, would most likely gamble again.

To give you a concrete example, if a gambler wins then the most likely decision that they will do is to try again their luck by gambling again. Additionally if a gambler losses, they will have the tendency to recover their said losses by gambling again. This cycle continues until the gambler either (1) exhausted all of their resources; or (2) decides to STOP and accept defeat.

The reason on why this kind of mindset is particularly dangerous is due to the endless nature and cycle of their decisions. Until they decide and accept defeat, they will always be inclined to gamble again regardless of the result of their games.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: taufik123 on September 04, 2025, 10:30:12 PM
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The way out is to distance yourself from gambling completely and immerse yourself in things that you enjoy doing, those that are not destructive but give a happy feeling.
That's the best option, not chasing a win that is not even certain or based only on luck, especially if it is too insistent to play with more money.

Gambling should be an entertaining, stress-relieving place with several sports games and bets to choose from.
But there are more people who are looking for instant money with gambling.

If you are lucky and get your first win, then it is the right time to go and take all those wins.
But sometimes someone just wants more than that and plays again, this will enter the addictive stage.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: serjent05 on September 04, 2025, 10:41:32 PM
Gambling should be an entertaining, stress-relieving place with several sports games and bets to choose from.
But there are more people who are looking for instant money with gambling.

I think we are overlooking the fact that entertainment can be addictive.  Even if we intend to play for fun, without greed but just pure entertainment, the brain does not stop producing dopamine.  It isn't the money that produces our brain to excrete more dopamine but rather the high feeling of emotion, the happiness, the feeling euphoria that can also be experience when we are entertaining ourselves, through video games, or other entertaining activities.

This is explained in the article Are video games, screens another addiction?  (https://www.mayoclinichealthsystem.org/hometown-health/speaking-of-health/are-video-games-and-screens-another-addiction).  So I believe it is a myth to say gamble for fun to avoid gambling addiction.  What implemented should be strict personal discipline and control if we want to continuously engage in gambling activities with regular self-check on signs of gambling addiction.


Title: Re: If Winning and Losing Leads to Gambling Addiction, Is There Really no Way Out?
Post by: Onyeeze on September 04, 2025, 10:44:35 PM
That is truth that winning and losing in gambling may lead us into addition in gambling, so we need to understand the major thing in gambling knowing that the advantages of losing is a higher than the advantages of winning in gambling so that should be one of them that we are supposed to have in mind about gambling, so I believe that gambling is something that have to do with your own personal experience and you have to check yourself very well before you involve yourself deeply in gambling to avoid unnecessary expenses that we affect you, if someone have a plan about gambling that person will not gamble irresponsibly it must to have a budget and that budget will determined it limit in gambling