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Would you rather play in a casino where you win a lot and big ones too but has strict KYC implementation and is a headache to actually cash out from or play in a casino with no KYC, totally private and secure but doesn’t let you win a lot?

I know that in casinos, there’s not much difference between rates of winning because it’s random but hypothetically which one is more important for you? Profit or Privacy?

I spend far less amount of money while gambling, so that does not make me bother about KYC. Also the government in my country make gambling legal which is another reason I do not have to hide while gambling. I care more about privacy in crypto where I have high amount of money. This is the reason I still prefer exchanges that have no KYC requirements, but it is a different thing for me while gambling.

This would've been good if there were life examples since I'm yet to experience winning big in a KYC casino and I couldn't withdraw my money while not breaking any SLA.

A quick reply. We visit the casino to have fun and make little cash and there's no justification to winning big and being denied withdrawal when you want, it's a red flag, people would avoid such casinos at all costs and after such an experience, I'm not coming back.

The former isn't totally profit, it's painful profit. I can't go well with the casino stressing me to withdraw my wins after complying fully with their KYC requirements. I'll settle for ease and privacy.

I'll try to get my KYC approved first before playing on the said casino that lets me win easily.  Until my casino KYC application is approved, I think I will try to play on that no-KYC casino.  In terms of importance, I think profit and privacy are both important.  And in the current system, almost all casinos require players to do KYC. If we want to gamble, I think we have to trust the website that they will take good care of our information and not be careless to leak it.

The gambling industry, specifically the crypto industry, is being regulated.  We have seen casinos that were once a no-KYC platform are now requesting their users to do KYC in order to continue to play in their platform.

Are there casinos that allows you to win frequently simply because they have strict KYC? and are there also casinos where you get to find it difficult to win because they don't implement KYC?. However, what will be my gain if am being favored often times in a particular casino but unable to make withdrawals due to how difficult it is to pass their KYC verification. Any casino that makes KYC verification complex for it's customers is a red flag, even if you mostly get lucky to win in such casino but it's better that you didn't win a bet than winning and not able to make withdrawals. Casinos who do not require KYC verification is surely a casino that cares about the privacy of their customers but it doesn't mean that they can't be fraudulent.

No, there aren't, as far as I know, and the OP answered to it too before the question:


In my case, although this is not strictly what is being asked "hypothetically", I wouldn't mind to go through a KYC process if I won a big amount of money; what outrages me is having to give my personal data for very little money, which is not worth the risk of losing them due to a data breach.

Of course, I think that way because in my country gambling is legal too, but I understand that different laws on different jurisdictions carries different opinions.

The problem is that, winning or losing had nothing to do with the kyc level of the casinos, you can win big on a decentralized casinos without kyc and well as also win big on centralized kyc compliance casinos, that been understood.

We have to realise that kyc enhance access in regions where there is high regulation for gambling like in the United States, above that kyc casinos may have more security for gamblers since they can legally sue the casinos in case of any violations of players right.

Decentralized casinos give gamblers privacy of data, since their dont require you handing over to them your documents for verification before you can use Decentralized Cason.

If the goal of each gambler is to win, then it is more profitable to play in the casino where the prizes are higher. Even if there is a KYC. In this case, it seems to me, confidentiality can be neglected (with great reluctance), because all your interaction is reduced to the casino (deposit - withdrawal of funds). If you then want to use the withdrawn prizes to send to third parties, then what prevents you from using mixers? As a result, you get a high win rate (coefficients), as well as confidentiality (additional actions). Of course, this is all hypothetical, because your question is also hypothetical.

Lol, people are submitting KYC to no name companies for a $5 worth of tokens airdrop and they would even be willing to send a DNA and sperm sample for $25 and you're asking if they would perform KYC for a few thousand or even tens of thousands in winnings, comparing that to actually losing money?

Is this even a question in the reality around nowadays?  :P

In theory a casino with no KYC shouldn't exist since all these game providers can only provide their products to licensed casino's. Ofcourse, there are loopholes to get around but these casino's can vanish at every moment.

For me the security and trust that I will get my money when I win is more important but still I wouldn't play at a casino with bad odds even if they are thrustworthy.

At first, gambling for fun is the main focus, but if you win while gambling, it's your luck. As for me, I would prefer my privacy as I gamble for fun, so winning is just a plus because the main idea is just to do a little exercise by gambling and not for profit. People out there would prefer to gamble with such casinos because they win big, which is fine, and they give out their details to the casino, all in the name of kyc and having no idea what happens behind closed doors with their information.

As for decentralized casinos, one can win big as long as they follow the due process involved, and as we all know, decentralized casinos have no control, so everyone who uses them can easily get their rewards, irrespective of the amount in question. It is void of any third-party and KYC requirements, so it is it is possible to win big and withdraw from a DEX casino without any kyc.

Hey... how do you define playing at a KYC casino but winning a lot... playing at an anonymous casino but not winning much?

Isn't this uncertain? But if you think about it using your theory, then it's better to play at a KYC casino and not worry about the difficulty of cashing out because in the end you can withdraw your winnings, right? :D

The advantage... they already have a lot and don't care about privacy anymore.

I'd rather choose to play on the casino which I know a good platform to play even if they have strict implementation of KYC, but I believe those hardship on cashing out is provably due to some verification but I'm fine with it as long as I can take my withdrawals at the end of the day.

Compare if we gamble on rigged with no KYC casino which is winning is uncertain since we are just wasting our time also money for playing in that casino. Also losing is no fun even if there are people say that they gamble just to have fun.

Not a big KYC guy here though if I won that much I have no problems playing there and in fact I would always love to play in a casino where I can win money a lot of times rather than in a casino that does not require KYC but I almost never win. If at both casinos I would have the same win ratio then without a doubt is the no KYC casino that I would choose. However I think the right question to ask here is "where would you play more KYC or no KYC casinos" without taking into consideration money or win ratio as you saw that in my case it influenced the choice because of money involved and remember that wherever money is involved things may change extremely fast.

If you are sure about your KYC documents, that you will be able to provide whatever required documents the casino may ask for, and you know you understand casino rules and can gamble in a casino without defaulting, you have no reason to be avoiding KYC or skipping on the profit you could make from gambling in a casino for a casino where you know that any day luck shines on you, you still will not be able to win so much.

Op had already said it is a hypothetical question. So no casino does all that at least not for public notice. So for me I would prefer that I have chance of winning big but what I will do first is to pass their KYC before playing since I'm guaranteed to win if I play. I would do KYC first and get ready to withdraw soon as I play and win.


I don't think so buddy. If a casino has started what you need for KYC to be verified then if you are able to do them you will be verified. Moreover, to avoid feeling they are delaying your withdrawal unnecessarily, you need to do the KYC first before playing. I think red flag will be where you are done and verified with KYC and you are not able to withdraw immediately after winning is settled and confirmed.

I’m not a criminal so i don’t really have a problem passing the KYC requirement. As a gambler my goal is to win, so obviously i’d play in a casino where i can win, and i’m sure my requirements will pass since they’re authentic.

At the end of the day there’s no point for a gambler, whatever platform it is, if you’re not winning.
It’s just a waste of time and money, why even bother.

The ideal casino preference is certainly one that aligns with the gambler preferences, offering easy play, a greater chance of winning, and smooth withdrawals. I believe that every casino on this forum strives to maintain its reputation by providing the best service. But ultimately casinos also need to comply with operational policies.

Profit. As long as it is a legitimate online casino. KYC is fine for me, and it also proves that a casino may be following the rules of its country against money laundering and other illegal activities.

Let's face it. Winning against the house is very hard when playing casino and slot games. So if we can win easily or fairly in exchange for following the rules, why not? Those who have experienced many losses will probably choose the same thing.

No thought of anybody calling you a criminal, and you do not have any fears about the kyc requirement and it is your right to either accept or not do KYC, which is solely at your decision to make, but have you ever wondered why and what they do with all these documents they take from their community members, all in the name of kyc? Have you ever imagined a scenario where you apply for something and you are told someone with this identity is already registered, when you know you have never attempted to register on that platform before? Have you received a call before from an unknown person telling you that you registered on their platform with that number, and you know nothing about it? It happens, and I guess people here have had such an experience. These are sometimes the result of KYC one does without any prior knowledge of what their information is being used for. So it is not a matter of one being a criminal or not before they do KYC or not, it is just a privacy thing, and people so much respect their privacy and do not want their information elsewhere.

I am not bothered about KYC.  Sometimes I wonder why some persons are so scared whenever KYC is being mentioned.  If using a KYC casino will bring me profits, I will use it; after all, I have nothing to hide. It still brings me to ask,  "are there really casinos out there that does not impose KYC on their customers? Whether strict KYC or not, I'll choose the one that will maximise profits for me.

I definitely know the risk, it’s the same as giving our KYC to the bank. But as long as the casino is regulated and got a good reputation, all we can do is trust them with our documents, since they’re required to keep it safe and confidential, otherwise they get penalized.

So to minimize the risk of docs being leaked or hacked, just choose the casinos with good reputation, the popular ones. That’s really the only best thing to do if we have no choice but to comply with KYC.

In the gambling games that we play, we certainly want a big win or hope for a big win without caring whether it will be achieved or not, but that is our main goal, therefore I think it is more important for us to play at a casino that allows us to do that, even though KYC is difficult, but at least there is a sense of security in the gambling games we play.

I am definitely on the privacy side!!!

What I see most is people seeking profit, profit, and more profit, and to do so, they sacrifice all their privacy. They use very suspicious KYC processes that even ask for information that, in my opinion is completely unnecessary, including bank balances to "prove" the legitimacy of the money they deposited on the site... it is ridiculous!!! This poses an imminent risk in the event of a data leak or even misuse of this information by the site itself.

Anyway, you can make money on honest sites that request KYC honestly and treat my data with respect... I always prefer them because the money is recoverable (just kidding, I dont pursue losses, lol), but the privacy and freedom of my data are not.

No brainer, I’d take the winnings even if they have strict KYC. That’s what I’m after anyway. As for privacy or identity, I don’t need to worry about it as long as the site is legit and they’re just doing it for stricter security purposes, while still giving me my winnings after verification. Even if they ask me every time I make a big withdrawal, I’ll still comply. The little hassle with every withdrawal is nothing compared to the winnings, that's what matters the most.

The difficulty part of passing KYC verification is just once, even if I am too lazy I have no choice but to pass the KYC first and that's it, if luck is all that matters who care about KYC when you are winning more? But let's be real for once, are there any online casinos that makes gamblers win more? There is none.

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Your question is kinda cool, it's people's choice at last, I choose to go and pass the most strictly KYC verification for easy winning because I am used to passing KYC on my favourite online casinos where I gamble all the time, I don't find it difficult or sick to pass KYC like the others.

What is the meaning of a casino that does not let you win? If so that casino would be rigged, and it is illegal to run any such casino, someone out there will call it out and legal actions from public will happen. Regardless, winning rates are almost same, so that point is out of the question.

Privacy is given a preference over anything so non-kyc would be a choice. But then people also like a good customer support easy and quick withdrawals before starting to play.

Those with difficult KYC steps will not become popular among the crowd.

 ;D Weird question.
I think the answer to this question is simple if you add a third option - withdrawal of funds. If the withdrawal of funds occurs without problems and is generally real, then you can tolerate KYC, if you win a lot but they don’t let you withdraw it, then it turns out that you don’t win anything, right? In this case, you need to select the option without KYC.
In general, it is obvious that it is not enough to win money, you still need to withdraw it. You need to calculate the actual profit when the money is at your complete disposal.

The fact that I consider privacy more important than profit when playing casino games mostly online is a shared  obsession for those of us who have experienced scams or hacks or identity theft and are doing better to secure what we have left.  

Although, the potential for profit is what draws many people to gambling often, the risks that is involved with  gambling on a site without strict kyc requirements, creates privacy  concerns, and can have serious financial and personal consequences that far outweigh potential winnings that is originally envisioned.

Okay, let's discuss this hypothetical question.
What is a casino for you? For me, it's an entertainment but if money is the bonus, then I'd love it. For the money, I would play in a casino where I win a lot but it has strict KYC requirement and is a headache to cash out but here is the thing, it depends on how much I win. If I win thousands of dollars every month, then it worth the headache for me with no fun but if I win a few bucks, then doesn't worth it and instead I'd play in a casino with no KYC and no problem with withdrawals.

In my case, I always prefer casinos that pay without problems. I don't focus on KYC. I know there's a risk of my documents being leaked, but this is a law that governments have decided, and casinos are simply obeying it. Therefore, there's nothing that can be changed. That's why I comply with KYC.

Now, accepting to use a casino that takes weeks to process a person's withdrawal and takes months to release people's winnings when they see that people played with little money but were lucky enough to win a lot of money is a bad idea. I honestly don't use this type of casino because it doesn't make sense.

Let’s define the ability to let you win. If casino has control on winning percentage only means it’s rigged and you should avoid it completely even if you are winning since they can halt your withdrawal anytime.

The choices have both negative features that will lead for user to not cash out or win anything.

I will abstain on playing both if theres no way to win.

The only difference is the KYC. If I win at a casino with KYC and win a lot, I simply don't have my privacy, but you can also win large sums at casinos without KYC.
In essence, you can win huge sums at both casinos; it makes practically no difference. If I have the choice, I avoid paying taxes, of course. But if I win a sum that could change my life, well, in that case I don't care. I pay taxes, but I finally solve my financial problems.
There's no point in complicating your life.

The casino might be a regulated one, which we might be confident in, but never forget that they can be hacked just like the exchange, too, and nobody knows what would happen to customers' information with them.  However, one can still choose reputable casinos with good ratings and rankings, but that does not guarantee their safety, as anything can happen at any time.

There are lots of decentralized casinos which is well known in the industry. Anyone who likes his or her privacy can make use of them and avoid centralized casinos and their kyc issues.

Personally, if the casino is reputable and trustworthy, and I haven't heard of any errors or issues in reviews regarding identity verification or other KYC-related issues, I'm fine with it. And if it's a requirement I have to meet to cash out my big winnings, I don't think it matters to me, because the most important thing is that I can cash out my winnings, and it would be a shame to ignore it. I believe that anything involving large sums of money ultimately leaves them with no choice but to undergo KYC, and large sums of money can change a person's mindset and attitude from a previously conflicting perspective.

I think very few people will choose the privacy thing if they know that the casino with strict KYC requirements is actually going to make them win or has better chances of getting them some good wins, because we all know that most people gamble only for money and profits, and they will do anything if they know they are going to win, so KYC requirements aren't going to stop them from choosing the casino. Besides, even if a casino has strict rules, they will surely let you verify if you provide everything they are asking for, and if someone knows they can provide whatever is being asked, they won't hesitate.

Some people might opt for the privacy-oriented approach because they barely care about the winnings but they gamble because they like it and they do it only to get entertained, so for them, even if they are not getting very big wins, it doesn't matter, because at the end of the day, they are getting the opportunity to gamble without having to risk their privacy or provide any private information or documents.

Both profit and privacy matter to me. If I want to do KYC, I will search for a safe casino, which means the casino can protect its customers data. They don't have strict KYC like other casinos and they serve customers better. I feel better if the casino allows me to win a lot but doesn't have strict KYC implementation. But I know that is difficult to find that casino.

We know the rate of winning is not much in gambling so we don't have to push ourselves to play so hard. It is better enjoy our time without chasing the win and lets the win come to us.

There are some people who are very careful about protecting their privacy, they do not play in casinos where KYC is mandatory to protect their privacy. On the other hand, there are many people who, if they have to withdraw the money through KYC after winning a bet, then they do it very soon, if they promise to do KYC after winning a small bet, then they do it. But a gambler who protects his identity will never reveal his identity, but he tries to hide himself, so if he bets big, he tries to avoid KYC, but if he wins a large amount of money, it is different. However, I have not done KYC in all the casinos I am familiar with so far, because I want my privacy to be protected at all times.

Not problem for my verify KYC with other platform such as exchange account but never agree for submitting my data at gambling platform, I won't my document publishing at gambling platform not care how secure the gambling side secure the member document.
I play with gambling non KYC and easily withdrawing fund not problem how bigger fund withdrawing. For KYC casino you must upload document but the casino side will ask more if you won much and withdraw above $1k until $10k, easily for casino must KYC for freezing your account and get hard how to solve if want make withdrawal.

Ill rather play in a casino with strict KYC as long as I'm winning from them. I do know how to go about every KYC, it wont take much from me to withraw from the casino because I wont break any rules so I dont see any reason why I cant cash out when I win. Such casino shouldn't exist.

Well, if that be the case. Id go with no KYC over profit. The worst thing that can happen to a gambler is after winning, cashing out becomes nightmare.

I wouldn't play in any of them. Which means that, I wouldn't gamble because it's not a compulsory thing. Why will I gamble in a casinos with a harsh condition. Cashing out becomes a problem or casino wouldn't be provably fair on their games. I love to gamble in a casino that's reputable, provably fair with easy withdrawal. That's what keeps the fun going.

I will say if I see a combination of both profit and privacy I will go for it, I mean who doesn't want good profit while  they enjoy privacy in every form possible it can come, privacy is very very important and we all know that because it's the only  way we can be assured that our assets and funds are secured and it will also aid building trust on the casino so every gambler mostly wants that privacy and good profit because for the vast majority, the profit is the primary reason they did ventured into gambling.

If it happens I have to choose between both I will go for the low profit and privacy because all I need is patience and I can be sure to accumulate the money to the point it will get big aswell just like what I would have gotten if I were to gamble on then casino that promises big profit without privacy, and in this case I will have peace of mind and be rest assured of my security.

I would rather play in a casino where I have a chance to win big. Personally, I see no issue with doing KYC as long as the casino is trustworthy and reputable.

Casinos must do this to make sure that they are abiding the AML laws that makes the mandate. As long as there are preventions and security for this, I think it's okay.

It all depends on each person's individual thoughts, which is why many don't mind having to enter their personal data on these sites. In fact, I think the vast majority of gamblers aren't too concerned about their privacy. The fact that most people here on the forum are concerned about it is because we have a more or less equal view on security and privacy, but that can lead you to mistakenly think that most people generally think that way.

Privacy remains important, but I don't mind doing KYC at casinos that have proven to pay winnings, both small and large. When you gamble to win bets, you might disregard privacy.
Now, many casinos also ask for KYC, but for most gamblers, I think the most important thing is that they pay out winnings. I would choose to leave a casino that complicates the withdrawal process. Even if they pay out, but with a lot of annoying processes, I would make it my last experience playing there.

What is the point gambling in a casino where you find it difficult to cashout after wining or having strick kyc implementation? And what is the point of gambling in a casino that is secured with no KYC but hard to win? Of course there is no such thing in Gambling. As far as I know there is no gambling Casino that allows you win often than the other, Maybe you might just be probably lucky to win on several occasions but doesn't make it special from others. Of course I know that some casino might be tricky like a thread created recently about how casino will allow you win big and require you to do kyc with some confidential documents, Which is not fair. but hardly such for things to happens. but we cant capitalize on that and see it like those type of casino has more wining opportunity. Infact I don't think I like any of Both situation if such thing somehow happens. I better not gamble atol.

I see no reason to use a service that would give me a hard time while attempting to make my own withdrawal from my own wins. Centralized services have given me a lot of problems in the past, and I have tried to avoid a very few that could be avoidable in my own best way, so I doubt if I would see myself using such service for profitable reasons. Besides, why trouble me with KYC during withdrawal and not during deposit ?. You can see how funny some of these casinos can be as they're trying to play smart.

I would prefer to stick with a non KYC casino, that offers a stress free withdrawal when needed without causing headache.

So long as I am winning and the strict KYC doesn't stop me from withdrawing or cashing out my game then I'm cool and better with that casino remember, everyone reason for playing Casino is to make more  money or profit so even if the KYC is so strict, if I can be able to withdraw my money I'm good to go because it is better to be winning and taking time for the money to be cash out than playing and losing even though it will look annoying for stressing someone before cashing out. But winning in casino is not even easy to start with because it is majorly a game of luck because you will just make a random selection.

I think every casino allows the same chance of winning except for the scam casinos that doesn't even want players to win as much as they lose but if by chance or coincidentally I find a casino that is offering more wins than another casino, I will go for that casino and disregard every minor issues it may have. Perhaps, some non kyc casinos are not too trust worthy.

While I'm not convinced that one casino can win you more than another, I personally prefer privacy over a large profit. Luck is the same at any casino.

Privacy is very important to the crypto community. As long as you say the casino is very secure and doesn't require KYC, I'd definitely prefer it over another casino that does. In a casino that maintains privacy, you can operate freely without fear of government surveillance.

What a ridiculous question. How do we know that casinos without KYC can provide more winnings to their visitors than those that implement a KYC system? The house always has an advantage over its visitors; that's a definite rule that applies to every casino.

Compared to casinos that don't implement a KYC system, I prefer casinos that implement KYC, because they usually have official licenses and are accountable to their customers. The biggest concern when playing at a casino that doesn't implement a KYC system is that the casino doesn't have a license, and there's the possibility of fraud. Even if someone wins big, they can't withdraw the winnings to their personal account.

I would prefer to gamble at a casino that has strict KYC implementation.  I think this is the hands down easy choice.  I would worry that if I were playing at a casino that skated around the KYC rules, even if I won big it wouldn't work out for some reason.  Either the site would disappear before letting me cash out, they would demand KYC info that maybe I couldn't provide and that's why I was gambling there, resulting in me not getting cashed out.  There could also be government interference or accusations of trying to evade taxes.  Easier to be legit and have no worries.

Profit and security are two important things for me. When I bet at a casino, I always hope to win. But sometimes it doesn't happen, but like me, everyone bets to win. I don't want to lose my money at a casino. The safety of my money is also important there. There are many casino platforms that don't require KYC from gamblers, but later when gamblers win a lot of money, they face various problems in withdrawing it. So those who are used to betting big should bet on KYC approved casino sites. And those who bet small amounts can bet on non-KYC casino platforms to keep their identity secret.

Only 0.001% people will say they prefer the second one.

We've heard many people complain if they win big, but the casino didn't allow them to withdraw their money because they're asking KYC. Guess what? most people will submit their KYC in order to withdraw their winnings.

If I'm in that situation, I will also do the same thing.

Both are important but I think that first option Is more preferable. Getting big wins from a casino with strict KYC implementation is what everyone would go for expect you are not being straight forward with the informations that you provide. The point of a casino having a strict KYC implementation is to ensure safety and security. When you end up winning those large amounts you are sure that your account can't be compromised or hacked

A lot of people gamble in hopes of winning big. Given that option, it wouldn't be surprising to have lots of people opt in to provide details to complete the KYC process as long as they could win big.
I read a reply earlier on the thread about the ability to withdraw your funds and i thought he made a good point. The ability to withdraw whatever funds you win safely without any hassle involved would largely sway people on the casino to play with.
It may surprise you on the number of people that are very willing to submit whatever documents that's required in hopes of winning some money. With folks like that, it's profit over privacy.

It's the same thing(like in both cases you will get the lowest profits) , bro. If I am winning a lot in a casino regularly, but that casino follows KYC strictly and makes hurdles in payouts, cutting taxes and much more, then the amount I leave with is not satisfactory. On the other hand, if a casino gives me rare wins but I am free in payouts and from taxes, then I will definitely go for it to avoid coming under the scrutiny of the government and people. Everyone has their own choice, but I think non KYC casinos give more chances to win, but it's too risky.

Well, in my case, I don't think I needed privacy, considering how low the amount I am allocating to gambling is. So, that means I'm gonna have to favor making a profit over privacy. Of course, I'm gonna deal with the most trusted and established casino to avoid the risks of getting your information sold to any cyber criminal. But then again, I don't think I'm gonna be one of their best target after looking at my account and gambling activities lol.

I don't always gamble to win big in a casino because I gamble for fun, not expecting much from it. So, for me, I prefer a casino where I can win a little and withdraw my funds without too much stress or a complicated KYC process. It's not just about privacy it's also because I don’t like the way some casinos treat their customers, especially when they win a large amount of money. That’s usually when they start requesting unnecessary or hard-to-get documents. So, the best option for me is to play at casinos that don’t require KYC.

No casino will decline your payout if you abide by their rules. If the casino is reputable, you will eventually get your payout, so I choose the former over the latter. We want to have fun, but its a good feeling if you have a good chance to win huge money part of a great experience in gambling.

Both are good, but I can trust my privacy if the casino is reputable, so my priority is reputation and a good chance to win.

Strict KYC or not, every gambler's dream is to win and to win more often. I know there are people who are very conscious of their privacy and thus would feel sceptical about giving out some of their private details. But then again, what's the point of maintaining privacy when you don't even win or win more often.

As long as they'll let me pass the KYC, and they'll allow me withdraw my winnings without any troubles, I don't mind using the casino even if they have strict KYC.

In my opinion, it is not only a question of profit vs privacy but time vs headache. I have played both of these kinds of casinos. The KYC-intensive onesmake you feel like you are requesting a bank loan. You can strike a big win, of course, but you then wait days or weeks, busying yourself with documenting, source of funds, and even then they freeze the money. By that time, the "profit" is not so real since it is not in your pocket yet

No-KYC rooms, on the other hand, tend to pay smaller wins, but the payouts are immediate. It is your money, no film, no play. Privacy is not hiding only. It is about control, about not building another database, with your passport in it, and letting it leak. That is also worth something, though it is difficult to quantify

What,
I'ma stick to the platform that gives me good winning return and pass every KYC verification that required, not that I don't care about my privacy but that's what it's needed for a customer to be a successful gambler. Every platform has their policy and so once such platform seems convenient and easy for me, I find solace in them.

I am not really against those that choose privacy free platforms though, it's just that every other gambler has their own distinctive qualities that suits them best.

I would be more concerned about the aspect of fair play, especially in a totally private non-kyc casino, since those are unregulated and can therefore be as scammy as they want. If KYC is a hassle then just do it beforehand and not worry about whether or not they will let you pass it later when you decide to finally cash out your winnings.

A reputable casino is far more important than some shady one that operates in a grey area or with no regulations or oversight at all.

Casinos are the same, there are not really any casinos that makes you win more than the other...But in the context of this conversation I would rather go for the second option...what's the point of going through the KYC process and the casino still makes withdrawals difficult...privacy is the most important...after winning those huge amounts what are you going to do when they they are being withdheld

In this case I would choose the most profitable one, considering it would be possible to make consistent profit from it the more I played. We know it's impossible, but since it's an hypothetical question, that is what I would go for without any doubts... And even if I lived in a country where gambling was banned, then I would have a very good reason to move myself to another country where I could gamble without worries, while still making profit for a living.

First, I want to disagree with you on the fact that there are casinos that offer alot of wining and win big too. If there is casinos that offer such don't you think that Alot of gamblers would have turn millions over night? And most of them can even decide to make it thier source of income since they're constantly profiting from that casino.


No matter what I think privacy still remains the top priority I don't care about the steady profit after all there are other ways of getting money without disclosing my privacy to them. So therefore I would go for my privacy because I wouldn't want my reputations to be ruing just because of the little profit I'm making.

Choices varies, if it provides FairPlay but limited wins then no worries so far some can have their fun then they are good to go.
on the other side,most gamblers are after profits.. so i believe  it quite obvious which will be chooses between the two option as they will like to get as many as possible profits they could make ..
Depends on individual though but it’s just much more better to do the minimal  KYC and have a peaceful gambling experience (so far you do that on a reputable Casino) imho.

As long as the verification can be completed, I'll take it. Rather than playing in a casino that has slim odds of winning. Even if we consider our privacy, we must be more practical at this time. In fact, social media has already exposed many aspects of our lives. As long as it is a reliable and trusted site, I believe they also care about the privacy of their users. It is part of the legality that has been implemented. Why do strict KYC? Casinos just ensure that the winner is the one who could get the prize.

Let me win a lot of money and let the KYC be very strict, I have all the requirements the casinos can possible ask of. I'm not afraid of KYC provided its worth submitting my biodata to them. If I win and the casino is legit, they will definitely approve my KYC. I wouldn't want to be restricted on how much I can win because I'm aiming for big wins and when it happens, I don't want any limitation.

So true, it immediately came to mind. Kyc has lost its relevance these days. People are doing kyc just to get the money from even the smallest airdrop. I doubt the OP is being realistic about this question. Anyone who's going to make a few thousand dollars and leave that money behind for kyc would do kyc and get the money. Who wants to lose money they've earned from gambling?

If it has strict KYC implementation specially after you win big, then I don't think that the casinos are willing to pay you your winnings. It's because you will undergo a lot of submissions and then even if you pass all the data, they can still deny it and not give you your winnings.

We have this kind of cases already, and maybe the casino could be black listed and have a bad reputation, but still they will continue to go on the market and still being in operation. So it's better to just play on casinos that has no KYC or at least there is certain threshold of winnings before you they ask for a KYC.

I have read about many cases where a casino that claimed not to require KYC eventually found reasons to ask the client to do it. So it makes more sense for me to do KYC, have a better chance of winning, and yes, maybe suffer some delay with the withdrawal. A paying casino that has proven itself as such will fulfill its obligations one way or another. The player is required to strictly follow their rules so that there are no incidents where the casino is relieved of responsibility and prohibits the withdrawal due to their fault.

At first glance, it is better to go through KYC but have the opportunity to win a lot, because this is what we go to the casino for. The main thing is that this online casino is reliable and does not transfer our documents to third parties, which then causes threats of hacking an account in different services, or the threat that attackers will take a loan from an online bank on my behalf. It was just bad to play in a casino where the odds are obviously not so good.

I'd take the strict implementation of KYC but with good provably fair rule rather than no KYC but it's almost robbing all of your money. Let's be real, KYCs are not there to trap a gambler. It is meant for protection on both sides. Money-laundering act for the business and for security for the gambler. KYC can be used so that no other person or hacker can access your account because they will go through a lot of identity verification before they can prove it is their account.

When choosing between those two extremes it’s also worth considering what your actual goals are if you’re playing just for fun and entertainment then maybe a smaller win environment with no kyc could feel fine since privacy and hassle free withdrawals are the priority but if you’re aiming to actually make money and maximize profit then the stricter kyc casinos are usually the only reliable path because they’ll be the ones backed by licenses insurance and infrastructure that can actually pay you out.Another point is that most legitimate casinos need kyc not only for compliance but also for anti money laundering rules so in a way the stricter process is also protecting players collectively from shady activity that could otherwise collapse the platform overnight you don’t want to wake up one morning and find the site gone because they got shut down for illegal practices.

Reputation history and transparency should be the first filter for any gambler there are plenty of stories where people chose a “privacy first” casino only to have winnings frozen or accounts banned without explanation so while kyc can feel intrusive and annoying it’s a one time hurdle that gives more peace of mind in the long term.Privacy is valuable but when it comes to money trust and guaranteed payouts should sit higher on the list because at the end of the day the point of playing is to enjoy the game and get paid if you’re lucky enough to win.

Big wins if you can still cash it out even how strict the casino was, that's still much better as long as the casino is legit and you would not suffer to any KYC exposed or being compromised, still big gains once you completed the process and far better than small earnings.


Good point in the sense of having difficulties even you already provided what the house ask, if you having a hard time cashing out to the point that you are theone that will skip the process and accept that there's nothing you can do, small profits will be a good replacement especially if you are not a hard gambler who always seek for big profits.

Obviously, I'd choose the first option: a casino that allows me to win big. It doesn't matter if I have to meet all the complicated requirements and strict rules, along with the somewhat slow payout issues. But the question is, are there such casinos? That is, are there casinos that guarantee big wins? And how can we know if a casino will deliver?
I don't mind providing personal information as long as the casino is proven to be fair and safe, and of course, I'll check the casino's reputation first.

I read and smiled because they are all really interesting but a trap. So I gave to play in a casino where I may consecutively win but going to have withdrawal issues at all courses of my wins. Hmm... Maybe I should ignore the stress and go for the easy wins afterall cashout is all we want. I will be good with the severe KYC policies and take some pills after much.  ;D

But what if I can not bare the stress? Maybe I should just go for the one with transparency respecting KYC and just play along for the entertainments but if luck comes a day so be our cashout.

People are scared of KYC probably because they are worried about data leakage.  It is a known fact that many platforms are unable to secure the data of their users and is collected by hackers.  They are afraid that their identity will be used to commit crimes and fraud.

While others are just not comfortable giving out their personal information.  


There are still casinos that claim to be a no-KYC platform, but I do not know how long they can keep it as is.

Herein lies the real problem. Most casinos that require KYC will allow you to withdraw if you win a small amount, but when your winnings increase, the problems begin. They may ask for additional proof, such as verifying the source of the funds, etc.

Check the "Scam Accusations" section in the forum and you'll see dozens of complaints about casinos that have banned users and refused to allow them to withdraw their funds.

For me, if gambling is legal in my country, I see nothing wrong with Gambia having a casino with KYC, as long as I'm not breaking the rules. Gambling is also about winning; nobody feels happy when they lose in gambling. Since the KYC casino is where money can be easily won, I will choose it. However, if I'm in a country that doesn't fully accept gambling, a country that is not gambling-friendly, i won't allow casinos where gambling is won easily to push me into trouble someday that I will regret.

I would rather just get the big payout.

In the end the tax man is always looking anyway, so might as well just pay it and be done with it.

The difference between the casinos could just be the tax payment for example, so, in a way, you could get the same money in the end, but with the KYC one, there's nothing to worry about in the future. The tax man got their share, so they won't be bothering you anymore.

I have nothing to hide and I know so far that I have not involved myself in any shitty dealings that I will be scared of doing kyc with a casino that will allow me win big amount of money. I don't see any difference between the kyc that I will do with a casino and the ones I do with commercial banks, exchanges and other government establishments. Or will the kyc of the casino be different from the ones I mentioned, were my government issued documents will be required? Or are there other special demands that the casino will ask from me?

Privacy that's for sure.

You said already that the win rate of a gambler doesn't matter at all. If you're lucky, you're lucky. Even you submitted your personal information to them, that doesn't mean that it will increase your chances of winning. I'd rather be private myself at least I'm still winning some money on it. I don't believe in "quick profits" because it will take time, energy and money before somebody makes profit whether it's on gambling or whatever it is. Realistically speaking though, most of the gambling casinos out there requires KYC if you're cashing out significant amounts of money and worse, there are some where their accounts are being froze for various reasons.

If there's a way for us to be private especially in these gambling casinos then at least do it. Quite surprising that many chooses profit rather than privacy. Well, we have our own opinion about the matter. :)

During my time gambling, I've mostly found casinos that aren't strict with KYC, and the winnings are pretty standard, as they depend on luck, so sometimes I lose and sometimes I win. Gambling with casinos that aren't particularly strict with KYC is easier, but I've experienced instances where they didn't pay out my winnings when I made a withdrawal. Perhaps this is why it's important to find a reputable casino, even if it's strict with KYC.

I select a casino with no KYC but safe and private and don't mind if they don't allow me to win a lot. That makes me safe because I don't have to do KYC and playing gambling anonymously. But I can do KYC in a casino but not with the strict one.

I can find some casinos that aren't strict with their rules. I can handle myself if I am difficult to win a lot like others, in certain casinos, because I don't chase the win. I only want to have fun in gambling but I don't spend too much money.

Profit has always been the main attraction when it comes to gambling but if you really think long term privacy is the real treasure because profit can be temporary and unreliable one day you might win big the next you might lose it all but the personal information you hand over to a kyc heavy casino can follow you around for life if that data leaks or gets sold you can’t take it back no matter how much money you win later on that’s why the choice between profit and privacy is more than just about gambling it’s about protecting yourself and your future.

KYC casinos often dress it up as security and compliance but in reality they gain more power over players they can demand documents at any time keep your funds stuck for weeks or even refuse your withdrawals under vague excuses like “further verification needed” in that moment it doesn’t matter if you’ve won thousands because you don’t actually control your money until they say so and that feels like a huge risk compared to the promise of higher payouts on the other hand a no kyc platform might limit your win sizes or set caps but at least you know that whatever you earn is yours to take out right away without answering to anyone.Another factor to think about is peace of mind gambling itself is already stressful enough with its ups and downs adding the worry of your personal identity floating around in multiple databases makes it worse it’s not just about hackers either it’s about tracking your activities linking your gambling habits to your finances and maybe even creating problems in other areas of life for me having privacy means you play on your own terms free from the fear of being monitored or restricted by third parties even if the profits are smaller they are pure profits with no hidden strings attached.

I will choose profit over privacy in terms of gambling sake since we are all gambling to earn money regardless if we will submit KYC if we don’t have a choice.

A legit centralized casino will release the winning once the KYC completed and you will rarely encounter problem on withdrawal if you play normal bets.

Privacy is now being ignored since casino is now required to follow AML protocol with their customers so KYC is inevitable in reality.

Honestly my only problem with KYC is if the process is handed out to some third party I've never heard of before. Seeing these companies that exist just to process my information does not inspire any confidence. Granted I have not fallen victim to identity theft or anything yet so I if it seems as though I can trust the KYC process I would vastly prefer the casino where I win a lot.

KYC is a hell of a lot of headache to go through when required after a huge win. The gamer looks through frustrated at every hour the support team snubs his complaints with zero reply. IF both were to be the only option in the gaming niche, I'd prefer playing the non-kyced casino with lower chances of winning than to face the rigorous ill treatment of the support team.

There are casinos that process KYC on their end—there are also casinos that store it in their database, so user identities will remain secure as long as the casino has a good reputation and is well-known.

Everyone will choose a casino that often wins, even if they don't care about KYC. Nowadays, even a $5 KYC in an airdrop is common, let alone a big casino win. I think people will chase it anywhere to get that win.

We all gamble not only to have fun and have some headaches but also for the profits. So, obviously if the choice is the first one that will give us significant profits and the other one isn't going to allow us to win. Why gamble on the latter choice if it won't give you any win? I'm willing to go through headaches as long as there is a chance that I can get my money and they're allowing me to win. Compared to the other option, you won't even experience a headache there but your headache is more of losing and thinking of how to recover.

People have been exaggerating this KYC thing for years now, I will like to know or ask how many times you have seen your friends or family get in trouble because they pass KYC on a platform? Really I need just one.

None I believe, this is how useless KYC information can be if someone goal is to steal the identity and use it fir something else, it doesn't matter because there is no proof, and technology is getting advanced every time, if the criminal try to use your ID on any bad platforms they need to prove it that it's really them, this is where stolen IDs become useless.

I have nothing to hide, I will always be fine with passing KYC checks online and this one comes to extra goodies so yes I will do it straight away and make some money in return.

Privacy always, everything else is a mistake that is fueled by greed and a lack of education as you can see from the many responses in this thread.

Exaggerated? How stupid are you? Have you even finished elementary school or is your school just some rural shithole that doesn't even teach history?  ::) Privacy is the foundation of freedom and normal living. Without privacy there is nothing except a totalitarian nightmare. KYC is a big stepping stone towards abolishing all privacy, and the second step is complete control. What you can write, what you can say, what you can do, who you can interact with and so on. If we reach step two, it is already over.

You have been warned by many great minds and whisteblowers, but if you are too stupid to understand something don't confuse it with a lack of importance of the message.

You have nothing smart to say either, so shut up then. Jeets like you would sell their own mother for $50 because she is no longer useful. ::)

Well, although gambling is not directly banned in our country, it is somewhat banned. If I am asked, I will definitely select non-kyc. The first reason is that I do not gamble regularly. Another reason is that I do not gamble with large amounts.
Moreover, privacy is very important to me. But another thing I want to add here is that whoever wants to keep their account safe, then I would definitely say to stick to a reliable platform.

Gambling, a large advantage is a great risk of accessing personal information and privacy to maintain the confidentiality of personal information and limits, these are two different things, but the same goal is gambling.

Indeed, every individual has a different way of thinking in understanding risk gambling and safe, to be honest for my personality, of course I will use online casinos that maintain privacy, For what we see delicious food but can't be eaten, let me choose just ordinary food but I enjoy it, win small but I have a risk.

Of course all of us and anywhere, the purpose of gambling for profit and winning, if the victory becomes a disaster for us is not a solution.

Generally, everyone tries to win in gambling and will try to gamble where the chances of winning big are high. Though there is no gambling platform where there is high provability of winning big, but there is anxiety among gamblers about doing KYC. Generally, most gamblers prefer casinos where gamblers can gamble quickly without any interruptions. If KYC is complicated, then many gamblers will not want to do it because privacy is an important issue for them. Personally, I want to avoid the hassles related to KYC.

You may play in a casino that does not request kyc from the outset, but later on, probably after a big win, they could request that, so when playing in any crypto casino, you should expect that kyc could come up at anytime. Even if one is unwilling to submit kyc, if they win a big amount of money and it is requested, 99.9% of people will provide it, so that answers your question.

In my opinion, many people will still prioritize privacy, because logically no casino will guarantee a high winning percentage after a gambler completes KYC. To me, that's a bit of an exaggeration. Basically, casinos operate to make a profit. They don't really care whether a gambler does KYC or not, they only care about their bottom line.

However, sometimes casinos have to abide by local regulations so they don't break the law, which is why they require KYC as a primary condition. I think if a gambler manages to win a large amount, they'll willingly complete KYC for the disbursement process. But the fact is, only a few gamblers ever get lucky, so it makes perfect sense that many people will still choose to maintain their privacy.

As for me, I'm team privacy;privacy is my bigger concern especially now that there's increase in online casinos.Some gamblers are profit driven but that nothwithstanding,a strong KYC system touches but privacy and profits.Privacy conscious gamblers tends to gamble with gambling platforms that promise anonymity.

Privacy is a key concern because gambling isn't about hoping for huge profits that lead to wealth, which can't be achieved if done consistently.
Furthermore, the reason I choose privacy is because I don't gamble with large sums of money, unlike people who gamble with large amounts to win big.
Rather than requiring KYC (Customer Service) requirements to withdraw large amounts, it's better to play with standard stakes, which don't require compromising privacy.

What's the sense of gambling privately and you won't even get a win?

I think that the majority of us have accepted already the KYC of most casinos and have become a norm already.

Profits, you can't gain anything with privacy. But if it's not about gambling then we'd go with the privacy.

We have to bias in things that we need to profit from like in gambling and it's the reason why we do it.

First of all, I understand that KYC has no effect on winnings when gambling. KYC or not depends entirely on your country. In my opinion, if gambling is legal in your country, there's no harm in doing KYC, and it's also beneficial for withdrawals and deposits.

If gambling is still illegal in your country, choosing one without KYC is certainly better, but it's still important to research the gambling site you're playing on to prevent misuse of your personal data. Indeed, some sites are very difficult to withdraw without KYC, such as delays, delays, and so on. What I want to say is that KYC has absolutely no effect on winnings, and every gambler wants to win.

If you want to call it a casino, then it should let you win.

Every casino has a limit for each bet that someone can win max from it which is fixed irrespective of the wagered amount, but I don't think I should worry about it because what are the odds of me hitting 10000x with $1 bet where a casino doesn't let the win should not be over 1000x.

Yes pricacy should be first concern, but just a reminder, no-KYC crypto casinos, yes they advertise the anonymity & quick withdrawal of money. However that often changes when you win big they also ask you for KYC or sometimes the payout is delayed. There are also sites that refuse to pay if the activity is said to be suspicious. This is just because regulators are waiting for AMLKYC checks. So if you do the KYC early, usually the money will be released faster and you will also have access to protections like multioperator selfexclusion. So it is your choice br0, accept the payout & privacy tradeoff, or just stick with small investments on anonymous sites.

The gambling casino we choose does not bring the luck for winning to us, not even by the chance of the casino being a kyc type or not, all these doesn't matter at all in winning or loosing, we have to only made our choice and be more effective in our dealings, that we can be able to enjoy gambling in whichever situation comes or applies on us, while we can as well choose to decide on what we want too.


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Doesn't let you win a lot!? — you kidding? If my fate is in casino's hands, I would never gamble there; how could you even ask this question? I would neither gamble at former either, because what's point of winning if it's headache to cashout?


Reading this, I guess that you just made a wrong a choice of words above.

As for my answer, I would go with private casino, as I am not believer that my luck changes from casino to casino.

Don't know why some people is afraid of kyc verification, for me I will rather verify my kyc so that it will be easy for me to cash out any of my winning in any of the casino platform but I noticed that many people who is into casino gambling they find it very difficult to verify the account, I don't know if the reason why most of them is afraid to have done a kyc verification it is because they want to have a multiple account in such gambling platform or there are hiding their identity for government not to know them,

So this is one of things that got me confused about many gamblers who is afraid of gambling with proper documentation of themselves, so I believe that anyone who document is a very well in Casino does not have the fear of casino withholding it's funds in their wallet

I'll go away from that casino if it won't let me win. I'm not going to spend any penny on them. And I agree, if the cashing out is such a pain, that will be a big trouble. I guess that even you comply to the verification for how many times, the casino won't still give you that permission to withdraw if that's the kind of pain that they're giving to their users. No point of winning and then no point in taking hard time in withdrawing.

With the increasing popularity of online casinos, especially the ones that accept cryptocurrencies, regulators are becoming more active as well, and you can barely find a lot of platforms that would allow you to gamble on their platform for very long without verifying your identity because they have to comply with the regulations imposed by the authorities through the licensing agencies they acquire their licenses from. When it comes to decentralized platforms, first of all, there aren't a lot available in the market, and even if there are, the regulators and authorities will soon get to them.

This is also the reason why so many people are more into KYC-based casinos because firstly they know that they are operating under a specific license and can't just close shop and go away, which can be done by any decentralized platform at any time. Secondly, kyc-based casinos will usually have more gaming options for players, which is also a reason why players are mostly attracted towards them. For example, they have sports betting and casino at one place, some even have poker now.

Part of a gambler's motivation is to win, and knowing that you have a lesser chance of winning will not motivate you to play, so I can commit my privacy to a reputable casino as long as I know that I have a good chance of winning.

We should play for fun. It is within our consciousness that when we gamble, we can win a game and take home a jackpot. Our chances are slim, but at least it will motivate us to keep betting.

KYC has been part of the gambling industry to keep the environment safe from cheaters and for casinos to show the gambling community that they are regulated to play by the rules laid out by the commission.

If we are truly after privacy indeed in gambling, then most of us wouldn't have been using the KYC gambling casinos, because they have our information with them, have we forgotten, also regarding making money or earning form gambling, this cannot be realistic to an extent on a long run, we had better not start what we cant finish, because gambling cant guarantee us winning whenever we are playing bets.

Its better to know that you are using a casino that ensures security, winning is important but it should not always be your priority as a gambler. Gambling is a game of chance and luck, there's a 50/50 chance, you might end up winning or losing. But if you have a platform that promotes privacy and ensures that that informations of gamblers are properly secure then that is what you need to go for

I don't know why OP is assuming something he can't control. If you are gambling on aany casino, know for sure that everything you do is completely out of control. You just have to follow any outcome you see. What I know is Casino doesn't do favoritism and nepotism, they make you lose according to how the system is designed and you are going to make money accordingly to how to the casino want you to make, only the casino make money from here.

If KYC is mandatory in a casino and you don't want to be involved in their struggle, don't gamble in a casino that asked people for KYC. If you are going to do the KYC, do it before making any deposits into the casino, if you do it you are likely going to fustrated at the end because they will not allow you move that money except if it's a casino that is so kind and put customer on mind before any problems on their casino, don't try something that wouldn't end well.

You win a lot and you don’t get to cash it out like you suppose or easily, that’s as good as playing the demo version of whatever game you are gambling on.

When you gamble, the take there is that you are able to withdraw your wins should you win and not being subjected to difficult means to verifying how you won and if you actually did win or you are the one trying to make the withdrawal. While that might be to your benefit at times, I really want to have a seamless withdrawal you know, predicting a game and having to stake them is already stress enough.

I think it was before that people gambled for fun, not now that everybody's eyes have opened about money, and even before, is only a few I can say that gambled just for fun since not everyone could afford to lose their money, but now some people are even staying away from gambling just because of the risks, like the risks that are involved in gambling are increasing every day. That’s why even the number of those who gamble just for fun is reducing; they are not functioning anymore.

The casino is not in control of some certain system mostly winning, a lot of people mistake winning as what the casino gives. Winning frequent tells how consistent a person uses one particular casino meanwhile if the KYC requirement is that difficult to an extend finding it hard to make withdrawal or cashout no one will love to make use of the casino but, winning always afterwards facing difficulties tells the person in question prioritize their win by making use of the casino.
Why should any casino find it hard giving their customers a cash out option well, I will definitely go for privacy rather than wasting much time on a casino because I win easily. Although requiring KYC doesn’t mean the casino is not trustworthy rather being selective saves a lot, winning is not a problem anyone can win or lose when gambling.

But anonymity is almost and gradually becoming a thing of the past in the gambling industry. The only and best way for us to remain a bit safe is to stay with the casinos that we have passed KYC with instead of trying out these new ones. The more we submit our data for KYC verification, the higher the risk of it getting exposed out there to parties that we can't determine what they will use it for.

I don't mind going through KYC verification; it doesn't matter to me. Of course, I prefer profit, who doesn't? But I've already expressed my opinion on this KYC issue. If it's to ensure my security and avoid tax headaches (here in Brazil, we pay taxes on bets), I don't see any problem. This anonymity aspect is good, but in a way, it's not the most important thing.

I will always chose gambling in a casino where there is higher chances of making me profitable. Indeed, that’s the ultimate goal when gambling, to win more and lose less. And with having strict KYC implementation, what’s new with it? KYC is just normal these days.

The more strict a casino is, the higher the possibility that you are in a legal casino, but if you prefer the opposite ones, most likely you’ll end up with a shady casino.

Shady casino is out the question, one should not involve with that, besides they will not survive long here, they mostly come to scam a few people and then leave.

Regularly running reputed casinos will hace some KYC over the years. Now people may find it strict or some might not. In either case you have to play in this set of casinos. Keep an eye out for new casinos for non-kyc too but chances are you might stumble into a scam casino once a while.

We don't have to choose, both are very important... But nowadays it's hard to avoid KYC here & there for many reasons. I don't like KYC, but I play in a few crypto casinos where KYC is mandatory. I guess we are all aware that any casino can ask for KYC at any time, for whatever reason... it's in their ToS. So those who are not ready for that should avoid gambling... maybe.

I will not even comment on the "profit" part. We all wish to make some profit, we gamble to make a profit... Profit means that we played, and we won... and I guess we all love to win.

Gambling is all about chances, and for that reason I don't think there is a big win with a strict KYC casino and a casino that doesn't require KYC providing less winning. So, only one question here. Whether you want to have privacy or not. There are good platforms that provide secure services with utmost privacy, and I would probably go with them. The major reason is to get support when I experience trouble. Platforms that don't require KYC might have terms and conditions stating they may request KYC if they experience some sort of issue in the future. So, it is good to stay on the safe side from the beginning.

It's profit for me, privacy is still important but I honestly will go with the casino where I win alot and big ones too, I will find whatever their requirements for kyc is and submit it for kyc verification so that I can always be able to withdraw my money with ease going forward.

Reason I won't go for privacy is that in this world, no one is really living a private life, people know you just as you also know people, if you operate a local bank account, they have almost all your private information already, if you work for or with a company, the company has a good information about you, if you are running your own business, you have customers who know at least, your real name, your phone number, your business address, the type of car you own, and maybe some of them might even know your wife and kids, this is why I said no one is really living a private life..

So, I will with the casino where I win alot and shun the privacy casino where I hardly win.

The answer will largely depend on the type of bettor.

For example:
Those seeking immediate profit will choose the option with the easiest withdrawal.
Another example would be:
Those betting for fun may feel more comfortable with the other option.

Ultimately, the ideal would be to offer solutions that combine convenience and entertainment. This way, no one has to choose between having fun or winning with less hassle everyone wins.

Almost every casino site has KYC implementation mandatory. Casino sites that are less trustworthy may not treat your assets responsibly. I consider your financial security to be the most important thing for gambling, so verifying KYC and continuing to gamble would be the best thing for gamblers. If you cannot implement the amount of money you allocate to gambling in the right place and do not feel safe, then the effort is not worth it. If your money is not safe, then privacy will not be worth it. That is why I first consider whether the money I use for gambling is in the right place and secure.

Profit is what I seek from gambling. Many gamblers come to generate profits. But if the KYC process is too strict and withdrawals are not instant, it will definitely not be enjoyable for gamblers. Gamblers tend to look for comfortable casinos, which is why gamblers can sometimes be very loyal to playing at only one or two casinos.

At your elementary school what information are submitted before you become a student? If privacy is this crucial to your life why did you need an identity card? you should have told your government a no.

People like you don't even need bank to function in life, why do you have debit and credit cards? Why do you use ATM machines? Privacy matters remember? You shouldn't have gone to any banks to open an account, they need your ID too.

What you are fighting have been here since day one, since the day you are born you are named, to get educated you go to school, every details are on your degrees if you have one, what privacy are you fighting for? As you can see it's been flawed from day one, how is that my fault?

You went ahead and called me a jeet who would sell his mother because of privacy discussion, something is clearly wrong with you and your poor life, I hope you heal someday.

I would always go for a non-KYC casino with good online reviews rather than having to deal with strict KYC procedures.
Getting your private data leaked would cause you a lot of headache in the long run, so privacy should always be a priority over profits.
The whole implication of the casino "letting you win" or "not letting you win" suggests that you are talking about a casino with manipulated games. ;D I would always try to avoid casinos with rigged games, it doesn't matter if they have strict KYC or no KYC. Player feedback is really important and I'm very focused on searching for honest and verified player reviews of crypto casinos.
On the other hand, if you are betting small amounts of crypto and you have zero expectations of winning big, the casino's KYC policies doesn't matter that much, since you won't be getting any profits to withdraw.

And I think that if the casino is sufficiently verified and there is information that it does not give our data to a third party, then it may be possible to tolerate a long withdrawal of money from there.
Moreover, after all the news about banks having information leaks, I think most people's documents are already uploaded to the internet and it's okay if you need to upload extra documents to this online casino. Of course, provided that I withdraw large amounts of money from there.

Of course, the benefits and security that come with KYC are what most people hope for when gambling. After all, winning is the most enjoyable part of gambling, and we cannot deny that.

What if you win big at a non-KYC casino and then encounter withdrawal issues? Honestly, casinos with KYC are government-regulated or licensed, and their status is not illegal. This is different from non-KYC casinos, which typically do not receive support from government regulations. Wouldn't that confuse you too? When that happens, you will surely regret it.

However, this is merely an assumption that is not yet certain, as non-KYC casinos also have the potential for big wins and can pay their customers comfortably, yet we still question it.

I highly agree with what you stated. What you stated is the real stuff that happens in real life. I also don't think that every individual has their personal information private. From birth to death, it is recorded in the city registrar's office. This means our identity is already in another person's hands since the day of our birth. So choosing profit over privacy is a practical choice.

I will also go with the casino that enables me to win more often, even if it is somewhat strict in terms of KYC implementation, than playing in a no-KYC casino, which makes me lose every session.

After all, what is needed to meet our daily needs is money, not our privacy :)

Privacy is always good.

I think you should be able to get the big payment and continue to be private, as in, the public doesn't know you won the big prize.

Maybe the tax man will know about you, but not the media, and that's fine by me

I would prefer casino with fair KYC. KYC during the registration may be. But not KYC with huge quantity of requirements after big win.
Privacy costs nothing today, our data is everywhere. Even if you don`t share it, bank employee can sell it. It is too silly to choose privacy and lose all advantages of modern life for it.

Third world idiot is clueless as expected. Whether you have an ID or not has nothing to do with privacy, neither does the question of having a bank account.

Piss off, farming scum.

None of that relates to the issue at hand or the casino. A bank has basic information of your existence, and these days it is an utility. Do you think that providing the required information to receive a connection to the electrical grid is a compromise of privacy? ::) The fact that there is proof that you exist does not mean that your privacy is compromised. Submitting KYC to private companies that are not utilities is something else entirely, especially ones where a lot of data can be mined from your behavior. You can avoid using banks for anything non mandatory. You can't avoid playing in a casino if you want to gamble in that casino. Have you not learned anything from Snowden?

Privacy is not about hiding that you exist at all, that is a misunderstanding regarding what privacy is about. Many people lead different degrees of private lives, some more private than others.

You will regret your comments someday when you will need to submit KYC to access a search engine and when they monitor every written word on your computer and punish you accordingly.  At that point it will be too late though. :)

I agree with you on all points except the last one: yes, we need money to live daily, but we also need privacy.
What if a criminal finds out you've won a lot of money and threatens you or your family, just out of a desire to steal it?
Privacy is important, especially when it comes to money, so the less people know about you, the better.
Don't underestimate this aspect because it's just as important as money; the two go hand in hand.

There is some level of verification casino will request that will make me neglect the whole process, despite the high winning rate, achieving those wins from gambling is still under probability, it isn't real money yet, so i wouldn't feel that extreme urge to go through the KYC process. There are things i look for in a casino, once everything becomes lengthy, signups with stages requesting too many informations makes me lose interest immediately.

Not in your option but hypothetically, using a casino that don't make strict KYC but uses KYC is better than having strict KYC and claims for better chances (No way can every gambler have the highest luck, the house controls profits), moreover you have to be lucky to win big.

Almost everyone would choose the casino with a higher rate win. In fact maybe there would be too many people choosing that casino that it may malfunction.

But if someone is rich and is just looking for a place to play and enjoy himself he might not care too much about win rates and instead would value more keeping his privacy secure.

We have to first understand what we want from gambling and if there is any need for us to protect on something we have, once this has been established, then we are going to know the bearing through which we are going to take in making our gambling decision, things like this needs to be well addressed, because some will later come after making the wrong choice decides to complain about the challenges they are facing from using a particular casino base on what they have requested of them, meanwhile all these casinos also are different from each other base on their policies for withdrawal and kyc.

To be honest, there are lots of folks who'd be willing to sacrifice their privacy and chase huge profits regardless of revealing their identity and documents for KYC but then looking at how stressful several casinos have made the process and how some still seize customers withdrawal after the very stressful KYC process, I think there's many like me who wouldn't want to go through that stressful process after winning huge profits and rather pick a private casino with lesser profit withdrawal. Maybe, If the KYC process isn't stressful and a casino is transparent and allow customers to withdraw very huge money after KYC then I'll consider the one that allows withdrawal of huge profits.

KYC only needs to be done once, so once you've done it at a casino, there won't be any withdrawal issues. There's no reason to look for another casino, for example, that doesn't require KYC. KYC is also required when you make a deposit or when you've reached a certain level. So, is it possible that players will choose not to do KYC and move to a casino that doesn't require KYC even though they've already reached a certain level at that casino? I do not think so, and i feel more and more players are finally accepting KYC, even though it's still unpleasant.

I do not agree with what you have said about the fact that people are staying away from gambling. One of the online dailies reported the sudden increase in the gambling rate in the world, and this article shows statistics of "younger people betting more in this dispensation" (https://theconversation.com/the-rate-of-sports-betting-has-surged-more-than-57-and-younger-people-are-betting-more-251902) than before.

Currently, you rarely see a gambler who gambles for fun except for a well-to-do person who doesn't bother much about income when they have a good source of income for themselves, but the average gambler has the target of making a profit, and these are the sets of gamblers who turn addicts because of their perspective on gambling.

People get scared of KYC when they know that their identity can be used against them. But when it doesn't, people will be free to have their identity revealed.

Having myself in a casino that has a big chance of winning each time I play, passing their KYC first before withdrawing the money won, I wouldn't see it as a problem so far, my identity will not be used against me or sold out to criminals.

In my opinion, since regulators demand ID checks and VASPs must adhere to AML regulations, it is preferable to select KYC &  licensed platform if you truly want to win large & have legal recourse. I always love NoKYC casinos, although they may seem private, no-KYC casinos have a higher risk of scams & exits, are less protected by the law & occasionally block or lose payouts.  remember freebitco.in?? they climb up top of the reputation suddenly exit scam. you should accept that there are lower limits & greater risks if privacy is truly important to you. So I will prefer provably-fair on-chain sites to stay safe..

That is if it goes swiftly and easy for the gamer to run those verifications. Most times when the KYC is needed after winning big, the process gets longer and may not be resolved and according to the narratives of the Op, a casinos that consistently offers winning may be escaping bankruptcy through making the KYC verification a headache for the winner. Because when they always payout it could be detrimentry to the house, financially.

This ToS of common casinos lately i think every gamblers know about that and KYC only exceptional to those who only gets big win and as long as the players won with honest i think the casinos will verify the KYC with very fast and the players can able to received their money so this is only the regular process and if the players won with clean way i don't think they should be fear with this process and for me personally if someday i have experience won with big amount of money then i willing to accept this requirements that because for some case i will support if this is mandatory especially to verified the account

Every gambler prioritizes winning but privacy and security Is very important. You don't have issues with KYC requirements thats good, but it's not only about having issues. What if that casino you get winnings from doesn't take KYC seriously which allows people to hack into it easily. Even though it seems like that chances of this happening is low there's a possibility to it. If it happens your wins can be stolen from you

I consider myself a casual gambler with little or no expectation to get a significant amount of money from a casino any time soon, in general I am pessimistic with comes to my luck, so I would not say I would prioritize profits, since I am not counting on them happening any time soon.
Though, I also think the key when comes to casinos is getting a balance between respect for privacy, fairness and liquidity, so they can reassure a quick withdrawal of our money in the case of a win. But talking about profit as something which is certain it is kind of illogical when we talk about gambling, it is a tricky question in my opinion.

This is how we should think about fairness in gambling. I think the same way and focus more on the possibility of losing when gambling. Although I try my best to win every game. When I start playing in casinos, I prefer to rely on luck to reduce the excitement because I know that most of the time the experience is worthless.

I don't take fairness seriously from the casino developers because they are trying to make money from you instead of having fun.

Id rather have to deal with the kyc and win a lot. Im sure its a hassle but it definitely beats not winning lol.  Also I would prefer to be in a live casino if I can help it but ill settle for some online poker here and there

Everyone starts out playing for fun and profit. Of course, they look for a safe and comfortable platform, meaning a trustworthy one, even though they must adhere to the terms and conditions outlined on the platform.

Regardless of the game, especially online, withdrawals are crucial. While the privacy of our KYC data is at risk of being misused, the reality is that most people willingly follow these rules. If they don't, withdrawals won't be possible. I think this is similar to registering on an exchange and requiring KYC, otherwise withdrawals won't be possible.

It's obvious that you are the idiot here, @FiveStar4EverMVP thinks the same way like I do, it shows that I am not an idiot, I'm guessing you can't call him an idiot for a reason only known to you or maybe you are scared of him since he is a legendary member lol.

The privacy you seek for, either it's personal privacy or the Internet privacy will not work 100% like you intended, get used to it, this is why many casinos start asking for KYC information after few years of running without asking anyone for KYC information.

The world will be a huge messed up space if everyone is given the privilege to keep everything private, let's say twitter is an anonymous platform, saw what those evil people said about the assassination of Charlie kirk? Few of them lost their jobs already, you would say that's because their information is on their profiles, no one will know them if it's anonymous, this is how pedophiles will run free too, even your daughters won't be safe.

That privacy part exactly, if you have good intent for your own sake what about the high numbers of evil people in the world today? You think they think the same way as you do? If you are appointed to become a leader of a state, maybe a governor and crime rates are increasing, what would you do if those criminals can't be brought to justice because the cops and FBI can't seem to find any clue about them all because there are privacy ways of communication or keeping data safe? It won't work.

Take it or leave it, that's your problem, I dare you to make privacy work in any way and let's see, it is IMPOSSIBLE, and good luck with your delusional privacy dream, it's never going to come true.

First, we also have to know that any casino that makes KYC verification very difficult for players would not have more customers comes to play in their casino except for newbies that doesn't know much about the casino but if the KYC issue is just something that doesn't take longer than weeks or months, then people can handle it because once you pass the KYC, you won't have to undergo such stress again but you will continue winning more often just as you have been winning even before doing the KYC.

I have gave my KYC already to several companies, including casinos, so that's a no brainer to me. It's not a headache for me and imho this isn't a real issue anyway, because where are you even facing this kind of profit vs privacy issue?

And riddle me this: how would you be ensured that the non-kyc casino would be more secure just because it wouldn't have KYC? Because i would immediately think that non-kyc casinos would have more changes to exit scam then regulated casinos.

Well, I guess that's because of the increase in scam online casinos that's been coming out. People have seen from the news and streamers how they lose their money in a blink. That could be the reason behind the choice of the online casino with KYC requirements initially, but it's trustworthy and reputable.

I do the same and am still doing it now. I'd rather pick Stake.com over other online casinos, and I have already accepted the KYC requirement and filled it up. It's not like it's going to hurt my privacy that much because they also have a job to keep the information secure for their customers.

KYC is no longer a thing to be scared of if you are a gambler because it's rare for you to see a casino that are fully on No KYC. I wouldn't use any casino that is not transparent and gives headache whenever there is a withdrawal request. Rather, I will prefer to gamble in an offline casino without any strictness. Why would it be very easy for deposits and withdrawal becomes a problem it's a red flag.

It's your right to give your KYC to anyone, including on the gambling platform, but being more selective would certainly be better to avoid data being used improperly.
This is everyone's privacy issue and for people who are reluctant to do KYC then they also have the right to stick to their principles.

Some casinos that implement KYC will also not guarantee anything, but if the casino has obtained a certificate and is legally operated that is supervised by the government, perhaps it will be safer.
Rather than just giving KYC to new casinos that we don't know about, non KYC casinos that provide a lot of bonuses but will also end up deceiving a lot of people.

It's not surprising, and it's not surprising, that so many online casinos are operating, and the number of addicted gamblers is increasing. It's a well-known fact that the more online casinos there are, the more enthusiasts there are. I've concluded that in my own community, there's quite a lot of interest in online gambling, not just from one group, but from all walks of life. Many people gamble to make money, so it's no surprise that many people are addicted.

Exactly the point, this is not a real issue at all because KYC verification is not something that you will keep doing all the time when you want to withdraw from that casino. It's something that you only need to do once and regardless of the delay in the verification, after it has been passed, you have now have a free tickets to winning and making your withdrawal without stress, but I won't be that easy for casinos to allow people to just continue winning like that, unless they are not even going to allow the gamblers to withdraw that money.

You already know that people only go where they get to make extra money and KYC isn't going to be a problem because when money is involved we have a lot of patience, I will always go for the casino that I win alot regardless of the strictness of the casino I don't care. People are doing a lot of hard stuff for the money so KYC issues shouldn't be a problem for anyone and that isn't a headache for me, I think most gamblers have pass the era of being scared to give out your KYC because some casinos are now asking for it, and as a gambler if you are not winning then what's the point of gambling and there's no 100% guarantee that the casino without KYC is more safer.

Before Zero Knowledge ID check comes, i don't see a better solution to it then current method, and at least EU is taking privacy seriously because, casinos and other institutions that require KYC needs to comply with GDPR privacy law.

Giving KYC doesn't "guarantee" anything, but neither does non-kyc casinos. In fact, i rather trust casinos that want to build for the future and accept regulations, then casinos that try to evade regulations.