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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-shooting-charlie-kirk-event-utah-rcna230437

I don't really have much to do with politics as I am not really a voter. Never voted once, but I do pay attention and this guy is 1 of the people who's views I have been watching on reels the last few months. Some stuff I agree with and some I don't, but the question is why do people who disagree think the answer is to kill someone? Many people in politics over the years have been murdered, not only in the USA but all over the world.

Just doesn't make sense how this stuff still happens. Why are politics so full of anger? Why is it shoot 1st ask questions later? People should be able to disagree and go on about life.

Thoughts and prayers.

It is very horrible indeed!

Unfortunately, it seems to be part of a disturbing trend that has started sometime last year during the last election.

Just because you don't like someone does not make it OK for you to harm them.

(I have only just now noticed your topic. I was busy fumbling with the image in my own topic trying to make it upload from mobile.)

Sad news, I just saw this News on social media and coming here and seeing it too that means the news is true, I really don't know why people feel that killing another person that is speak about something he or she don't agree with is the right thing to do, I'm very sure he was killed by someone who don't agree with his movement and believe, according to the news they said he was shot.
The president of the United States Donald Trump has ordered  the American flag throughout the United States lowered to half mast untill Sunday evening at 6 PM, the president should also make sure that those that killed him are found and made to face the law for killing, if nothing is done it will continue and when someone speak something that is not in line with someone belief or what you he or she don't approve off then the person get killed, this killing is a threat to freedom of speech in the United States.

This news gave me cold feet.
Watching a clip of someone getting shot when it's not a movie already shows how inhuman people can be. I think this is insanity.

Since when did people start finding it convenient to eliminate others just because they don't see things from their own point of view?. Like, why have to do all this just to make a statement or push personal/political agenda?.


It seems politics looks way deeper than we think.

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May his soul find eternal rest.

No worries, your topic is probably a little better with the image and mine has a few questions. Both serve a purpose, I can lock mine if needed. I just feel like a real discussion could/should come of the issue at hand. It's definitely NOT ok to harm someone because you disagree.

I remember when I was young and 2 people disagreed we would meet somewhere and throw a few punches til someone had enough and that was the end of it. These days kids grab 4 or 5 buddies and they're all carrying a gun. Violence everywhere, it's insanity.

I for sure agree with his statements most of the time and been a follower for quiet a while now in Meta, my condolences to the bereaved family. Whoever silenced him proves they are wrong and Charlie was right all along with what he believed in. Justice will prevail.

False Flag Op.
After the miserably failed terrorist attack that NATO-Zionist Axis carried out in the capital of Qatar (a gas station with a dictator who thinks buying weapons from US and having the largest US military base there protects them) the US regime needed a distraction from that failure as the criticism of Trump was growing.

This is why the Axis carried out this public elimination of one of its disposable assets as a distraction...

It's also two birds with one stone. In the near future the US regime will use this public execution (carried out by the regime itself) as an excuse to attack supporters of Palestine who have been protesting against the ongoing genocide that US regime is carrying out in Gaza...

P.S. Keep in mind that this is not the first time Zionists eliminate one of their disposable assets like this.

Since civilization began. But in the 20th century, the Bolsheviks took it to an industrial scale. So I don't know why you're surprised (unfortunately).

It's a shame, a brilliant guy who only used words to defend his ideas and had his whole life ahead of him. I think the murderer has turned him into a martyr.

From way before that!   Caveman likes cave cause it protects his family.   Different caveman does not share first's point of view. 

I had to choose which thread to reply in, and this one was more descriptive.

I liked Charlie Kirk - I really enjoyed the clips where he would shut down a wacko liberal just crying for attention.    CK didn't have the ability to control like Trump did, so he didn't deserve to be assassinated.  RIP   :(

Yup, one of the very viable hypotheses for sure.  Kirk was going to have to keep ducking Fuentes, or get his balls pounded flat, and neither would be a good look for his Zionist sponsors.

Beyond that, it is a strong temptation for anyone in the giant pool of right-wing influencers to go America First since that's the way the tide is flowing.  Making it known to this cohort that it could significantly elevate the risk level to stray to far from the Ziocon feeding trough, especially if your mouth started out on their nipple, could also be of high value for the Zionists.

Also, the Zionist neocon types are the only group who can be confident that they can kill anyone they like with no danger of interference from so-called 'American' law enforcement causing problems.  And their media apparatus will program into the domestic psyche any story about any patsy they want...while leaving the true nature of the hit as plain as day to those they seek to intimidate.

Condemning and Prayers

This is happening around the world when we disagree with someone and it's called barbaric however politics and religious hypocrisy are at the top as they've been doing this for decades due to their influence. We've also lost many great people who were on the verge of bringing about changes but they never happened because they were silenced and gunned down by unidentified individuals.

Civilization and education failed to stop these injustices because many things are still controlled by those who want to live like mafia and have control over others.

                          RIP

                     Charlie Kirk

Riddle me that, how does a  bullet change the ring being on another finger?

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Regardless of our political affiliation, views and beliefs about politics, political violence or killings to silence the opponent is never a good approach in solving this issues. There's nothing that worths taking the life of any person because it's never can be bought with money. Killing a husband and a father of two kids and the last child of about 1yr old is never a way to justify this, and I'm totally not in support of taking someone's life because you don't like what they're saying, and besides there's freedom of speech in United States, and why such an outrageous act?


This is so bad, and more stricter laws should be enacted, regarding gun control in the US.

 This goes to say that freedom of speech and the right to say what you want isn't really upheld. The sad part is that the shooter is still out at large and hasn't been apprehended. Even if the killers gets  caught, will it change anything? Nothing because he'd still be dead and his two kids would be without a father and a wife without a husband. His offence? He shares views that some people don't like and the best way to express themselves was to shut him up permanently. So sad. RIP,  Kirk..

Well, inasmuch as the world is in grief, there are still things we should not forget.
Charlie Kirk was an activist and a very active participant in the politics of the United States even to the point that some people felt he had the potential to even contest for president someday. Now the inevitable side of the world's political system is that man would never see a threat and let it go or be.

To some persons, Charlie turned out to be a threat and he had to be exterminated. With my own analysis, I think that shot was planned and executed by a sniper.

All I can say right now is may his soul rest in peace.

But the crazy is If Charlie Kirk was killed by a Black, it would’ve been all Black people are violent thugs, but since it’s a white person, it’s “the left” hahahahha

Very sad that this would happen to any political commentor right or left. Sadly I think events like this can and eventually will ignite a very deadly fire. How long is it before some crazy loon on the right now thinks any leftist activist is fair game and if there's going to be a lot of lefties online praising this death much like there was for the Luigi guy I think there's going to be a lot of radicalisation and tit for that killings.

But why do you think other murders happens then? Why would disagreeing with someone be less reasonable?

I have few points to this case:

Charlie repeatedly said that kids being shot (like 2 kids + shooter in school just today) are necessary evil to maintain the 2nd amendment. And he hated the very idea of empathy.

I know that's hard thing to grasp for people with empathy and the very idea of ignoring people getting shot it makes me feel dirty. But if we really wanted to honor him, we wouldn't care, just like he wouldn't and this would be a short news cycle. Because that's what he would have wanted.

Thing is that rise of inequality in U.S. is rising, it creates division. Rising costs of living ensure that it's not only minorities that are being oppressed and that means group cohesiveness starts to die along with solidarity. This will increase the violence, and it leaks everywhere. Thank god i don't live in there.

Other thing about this particular case is that Trump pretty much pulled the rug under their veterans, and i was expecting waves to splash from that later on. Because taking hope away from traumatized veterans like snipers wouldn't be smartest thing to do, unless you wanted civil war.

And to me it sounds like a veteran pulling the trigger: https://apnews.com/article/charlie-kirk-conservative-activist-shot-546165a8151104e0938a5e085be1e8bd

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/09/11/UCasnZ.jpeg

I don't know whether he is the culprit or not, but what is circulating this photo in our discussion environment.

Anything related to the life of a person cannot be justified, whether there is competition, conflict, misunderstanding and or hostility cannot be justified if killing people becomes the way.

The price of one life is very expensive, there is no medium of exchange for it, no matter if you are left or right.

charlie kirk was pro-gun. and its the type of anti-kirk people that want stricter gun laws, in so much as they probably used a gun to try to show how deadly they can be to try to get gun accepting laws and constitutions quashed

i know some lobbyists are probably going to want to turn all universities into prison walled institutions, all bags checked all identities shown and camera's on every foot of the campus, trying to push for security overreach, and reduce peoples freedoms of movements (probably snipers ulterior motives)
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the university does have multiple camera's and the sniper wasnt using a handgun, so shouldnt be hard to review security camera's to see whom was carrying a large object into the building the sniper used. and then trace from camera to camera the path taken back to some vehicle or location to identify the culprit, it just will take time to investigate/review

this was not some situation of 1960's grassy knoll. it was ontop a building in the middle of campus with lots of angles of cameras

The act of killing is condemnable in the whole world. I don't know what gives some people the mindset that killing other people makes them a better person, as per those who have achieved their target of killing a soul that doesn't align with their ideologies.

This Charlie shooting is terrifying and unacceptable in Christendom. The person who's responsible for his killing, is demonic for killing a soul he didn't create. RIP Charlie

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It is very unfortunate that someone will take the life of another man in the name of politics. A life that we can't create yet they take it in the name of politics trying to silencing their opponents. This is the reason why many people are scared of going into politics or having anything to do with it, because I don't seem to understand why people can't have different views and ideology on something, without the next man trying to kill the other one. That we disagree politically doesn't mean you should take my life or I should take yours.

May the soul of the departed rest in peace.

Sad to see such an intelligent guy murdered because of his views or opinions. Everyone should be allowed to air their views without any form of violent attack. The weapon used for the killing has been found but the killer is still at large. I suspect that this killer might have a military background. We are hoping the criminal will be caught and prosecuted. I don't think his death will lead to any reforms on gun policies because he was not a supporter of gun control. My condolences to his family and loved ones.     

The FBI has reported that the shooter was wearing an all dark outfit. I think the camera has spotted him running on top of the building after the shooting.
It wont be hard to identify the shooter, if they review the video of people fleeing the scene after hearing the gunshot. Of course the shooter isn't some teleporter. He would come down the building mix in the crowd and flee.

Well, I dont know if the shooter fled without the gun or perhaps he took the gun and fled. Anyway, just like you said, the cameras of course would have captured every person coming into the premises and would easily identify someone carrying a big object into the building. Another thing to consider is, what if the shooter has been in the building even before the conference started. Everything was well planned.

I think investigation should be done on the school board too. The reason is because i am suspecting that the person involved in this killing must have been part of the organizer. Bring him to Utta where there are tall buildings around. The shooter know the perfect range or angle to stay, from up to down, it was a clear shot.

I have a clear video of everything he was discussing before he was shot. Charlie Kirk was a supporter of legal weapons. So the moment he spoke about shooting with legal weapons, he got shot. This simply means, the shooter orchestrated this thing perfectly.

More digging will be done..

That's what it is mate, just because a man choose to ear out his views and what he think is right he was murdered, is this not politics taken too far, very dirty way of going about politicking, that's to say if an entire clan is known for their truth, one blood sucking demon might wake uo one day to wipe out the entire clan just because of their outspokenness, this is too bad, I don't want to believe that such intelligent public figure has gone to the journey of eternity so soon just because of one blood sucking demon out there that thinks that people should not make their personal opinion known to  the public, the world is just becoming very unsafe everyday, am very sad about this incident, may his soul have peace as he has embarked on the journey of eternity.

The man is innocent. I heard he has been released.

The image is not doing justice at all. The full footage has shown the bullet was coming from the roof and the current suspect in this image was not with any weapon when the gun was fired.

This is an unfortunate scene and I heard that the culprit has been arrested charging to court soon.
Charlie was an amazing activist that supported Donald Trump and fight for the banning of abortion and other inhuman activities in the United States.

How I wish one word can bring him back. Lord take Congress gridlock and give us Charlie Kirk!

If politics was were the attack came from then is another version of seeing what politice are becoming when it shouldn't have been something worth taking another persons life, it is normal not to speak of everybody point of view but that doesn't mean that such person should be terminated because of what they believe, imagine how someone who is very healthy and strong will just lost his life just like that actually alot of things we usually don't imagine of happening physically is now happening live, he wasn't short on a place he could survive it, this is very heartbreaking and i pray all this violence should stop.

There are a lot of speculations that shows that there's also one guy from the roof top that have ran after the shot. The investigation is on going although I haven't seen reports yet if they've caught the suspect but none so far. One lead is they say that it's college guy but another speculation that's surrounding in the web. I've seen the video and it's terrible, heartbreaking. Condolence to Charlie's family and it's sad that he won't witness his child to grow up.  :-\

update: person of interest wearing blue denim jeans, black hoody with chest image* and black hat and shades

the FBI have followed a figure of such description from the building to a wooded area off campus.. where he dumped his weapon. so they have reviewed and traced his exit off campus. they are now viewing other footage before the assassination to trace that path backwards and then they will be be looking at further ways to trace him off campus after the assassination. they have a picture of "a person of interest" but not identified the name yet. they have the gun, a footprint and a palm print and are forensically looking into those

*eagle infront flag "land of the free home of the brave"

opinion:
its beleived from the images prior to assassination, the suspect did not arrive carrying the weapon in the photos, so suggestion is that it was well planned prior to the incident, by hiding the weapon on campus way before incident. the picture also shows the suspect clasping his hands in clenched fists to avoid touching the hand rail of stairs, etc, using only the sleeve of black hoody to press covered wrist against hand rail to stable himself as he walked up stairs, again shows intent to avoid leaving behind dna trace forensics, which shows more intent to want to follow through with act without getting caught.

I don't think the caveman thing was an opinion about points of view. I think it was more of an instinctive desire to possess territory, food, or other resources.


That's clear. If you believe that certain deaths are a necessary evil, don't complain if you get killed yourself.


That sounds like a huge pile of BS to me. Can you back that up with links?

Hostility in our political environment is ramping up.
This also happened yesterday...

https://www.denverpost.com/?G2I_ActionId=135041&returnUrl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.denverpost.com%2F2025%2F09%2F11%2Fevergreen-high-school-shooting-colorado-updates%2F%3FclearUserState%3Dtrue

Yea, the world has lost it's mind. That story wasn't all over CNN and it should have been at least some. If we keep going like we are it's going to be anarchy quick, the Purge is real apparently.

Should have never taken corporal punishment away and parents should be spanking their kids asses and teach them actions have consequences.

The picture is not clear so one can't really tell if it was a gun he was holding like that or not but the police can use some technology to make it more clear or dictate if that was a gun he was holding, if they do that and find out it was a gun he was holding then he should be arrested, and interrogated to find out if he was really the one that shot at Charlie Kirk because it may be a gun his holding but it could be for self defense as long as he is license to hold that gun when going out then one can't accuse him for the murder of Charlie Kirk.
The crime should be investigated very well so as to fine out who really killed Charlie Kirk, I believe there should be CCTV cameras in that place he was shot and people in that place may know where the gun shot came from, I believe if the police and FBI dig into that matter they will find the curprit.

Before his tragedy I didn't hear his name. Probably I saw his thoughts, but his didn't stuck in my mind. I have looked what views he had and what he have said. What I can say, I disagree completely with some of his thoughts. There is some his opinions that I agree with, some things is contraversial. But it's normal thing to have different views. But killing someone just because his views is completely different than yours. I have no words about it.
But that moment when such famous gun rights supporter was shot down, I don't really knowwhat to say. I just will quote his words:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-gun-deaths-quote/
But probably Kirk wasn't talking about his death...

When such style of elimina happens, just have it in mind that those on the other side of the divide has has employed various means to bring the person to their side but couldn't succeed, and their last resort as a solution to them is assassination.

We do witness ugly incidents of this nature in my country too, and you would hear them say it was carried out by unknown gunman/men. It's quite unfortunate how God has always allowed this to succeed everywhere around the world where politics exists..

I watched some footage of the shooting, and it hit Charlie in the neck. Damn :o this really happened in front of so many people. To date, there's no official information about the perpetrator, and the few screenshots circulating don't prove anything. Don't fall for conspiracies that simply exploit the situation. Keep monitoring this case and see who the real perpetrator is.

The impact of this incident could lead to the postponement of the 2026 World Cup, as Utah is one of the 11 cities slated to host next year's games.

Postponed - I don't think so, because venues can always be changed. But it does raise the question of how are security going to keep all those visitors safe, if lunatics with guns or knives can just cause chaos like that criminal in the subway.

We're yet to know the truth dear, the shooter is yet to be caught and reveal information that would tell if it involves politics or some secret enemy of he's or a group that doesn't share same faith with him and want him erased. Anyways, talking about politics there's a saying by people in my country that "politics is a dirty game" that's why I barely involves myself with it.

 I think the person who shot him was an expert, probably a hired assassin or so cause that was a direct shot to a deadly area of his body and even if he had survived, it would've caused lots of damage to that part of his body. I wonder why anyone would want to take someone's life cause they don't agree to the person's opinion, that's evil and I hope Charlie Kirk rests peacefully.

I don't believe corporal punishment in school is the answer. Accountability for those in power when they stoke political division would be a great start  <--- this should be considered a crime against "we the people".

Discourse is necessary for democracy and it is a shame that everyday people who vote are not skilled enough to participate in it but we have lost our government when we allow those who represent us to divide which is how tyranny concurs.



Mellissa Hortman (Democrat) was assassinated on June 14th Her name wasn't included on Trumps lips as a tragedy.

Luigi is tried as a "domestic terrorist" in the united health trial?

Profit over people is the thing tearing the world apart right now; division is its tool.
Avarice is the sin.
Colonization takes by force and everyday people should know by now that our minds are the next frontier.
Stand up for sovereignty and basic human dignity before there is nothing left.

Every time we see cases of killing of this sort, it brings a reminder to how nothingness life can be and how that in just a short space of time, things can just change and you become history just like that. Charlie kirk lived a short life but no doubt, he lived a fulfilled life. the people that are behind his death might think that they have succeeded in putting him to silence but the fact is that within the short period of time he lived, he has fulfilled the purposed of his existence far more than those that killed him can come close to even if they lived more than hundred years.

Earth lost but heaven rejoice  :(

Such a weird society we live in. Today you expect to see everyone saying nice things about Charlie but my social feeds are full of people celebrating his death or hunting down those that are to try and ruin their lives. I couldn’t imagine spending my day celebrating a death or trying to get as many people fired for expressing their opinion as possible. I’m all for hating liberals, but I think if they want to express hate, they should be free to do so without having their lives ruined. I’d rather know who is evil than have them be scared to show it.

How many souls have died in Gaza since Kirk was (supposedly) killed a day ago?  Probably orders of magnitude.  And the Gazan's were killed by operations such as baiting starving people with food then shooting them en-mass via scammy 'aid' NGO's schemed up by Zionists of both the Christian and Jewish variety.  Kirk made millions excusing and justifying the Zionist's activities.

Ya know what?  Fuck Charlie Kirk.  I feel bad mainly for his family, but the whole Gazan population who are being genocided have family who feel just as bad too, and they don't have multi-million dollar estates trusts and insurance policies to fall back on.  If I had to choose between one random kid in Gaza or Charlie Kirk getting 86'd, it would have to be Kirk.  No-brainer.

* Actually, I never even knew what Charlie Kirk looked like until the dust-up with Fuentes a week or two ago.  Never listened to him except for some random clips here and there.  He was just another dude in the massive pool of right-wingers who were fairly obviously from the stable of the Zionists and their well-funded influence campaigns, and not worth my time since you get the same talking points from the lot of them.  However, since his supposed demise, I did see a clip where he questioned the veracity of the obviously fake 'Hamas hang-glider attack' which Netanyahu used to kick off the "Final Solution" [note the double quotes] for Gaza which the Zionists have talking about for at least 15 years.  So maybe Kirk had an honest side...though if so he buried it pretty quickly and clearly maintained his place on the pay-roll.

Knew there'd be someone to come in the thread and have a very radical opinion of the situation. Look, you are entitled to your opinion. I can't fault you for that, nor will I try. As I stated in the OP I don't agree with all of his ideas, but I don't think the answer is kill someone either.

It doesn't matter if it's the never-ending war for the Gaza strip, the War in Ukraine, School shootings anywhere, or any other insane act none of it should be happening. The answer isn't violence. Some get rich from war and would have a different opinion, I don't get it. Noone should be forcing their opinion or views on others.

This is my favorite clip of Charlie Kirk.

https://x.com/whatever/status/1965995740901056840

I urge people to take a look at it to help realize that he was first and foremost a Father who cared deeply for his family. A shining example of who we should all strive to be. The loss his daughters are faced with is greater than any of us can comprehend. Such a tragedy.

Nothing in my statement spoke to the right/wrong of killing anyone over ideas or anything else.  I was simply musing about why Kirk's putative death matters any more than the tens of thousands of people being killed by the Israelis?  Most of these people didn't even seek to get involved but were simply born in the wrong place at the wrong time.  The same cannot be said for Kirk, and indeed, one could argue that his actions simply added lubrication to keep the killing going.

What should make Kirk more deserving of my empathy than the run-of-the-mill soul in Gaza?  Fair question I think.  Wanna take a stab at it?


It's starting to look to me as if there is a clear distinction in some groups mind about the applicability of killing based on those who signed something like the 'Jerusalem Covenant'.  The bar justifying 'extreme prejudice' seems to be much higher for those who have not signed the contract.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DijQPr487Nc

I dunno what Kirk did or did not agree to or sign, but given the huge number of people who have been 'invited' on Israel junkets, it seems more likely than not that he made some commitments of various types.  This pic is not super easy to find on-line any more for some reason:

https://images.jfeed.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=640,quality=75,format=auto/https://images.jfeed.com/2025/09/11/9c9fab00-8f0a-11f0-8d26-57d0d601607d__h320_w284.png

For sure, but that makes me think you haven't you heard what he has said before this. So where are you getting your information from him from? Are you basing a lot of your views on how they sound?

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A54Hkn0vcBY

Here's a short clip. I am sure you are able to google the whole interview and his other views relating to that, but i am not giving any additional clicks to him.

And if this is news to you, i feel like there's more surprises for you when you google it and dig in deeper.

https://i.ibb.co/XkzCdRtF/Screenshot-20250912-123232-2.png (https://ibb.co/XkzCdRtF)

From your explanation you gave about the person of interest, the picture above explains it, of the guy the FBI is accusing of being the main killer of Charlie.  There are pictures of him, pointing to him as the "person of interest'' who took the shot on Charlie. However, the identity of the shooter is unknown. Let's see what the FBI can make out of the unknown sniper with his identity revealed.

Edited
The one responsible, 22 years old Tyler Robinson
https://i.ibb.co/mFv3gYWr/FB-IMG-1757686809755.jpg (https://ibb.co/mFv3gYWr)

Franky1, I also saw the update and yes, everything you described was exactly what the BBC news said about the shooter. I also watched footage from the ministry of security. The footage shows the shooter leaving the scene from the top of the roof just after the gun was shot. He jumped down and walked across the road like he never did anything.

Like I said before now. The plan was orchestrated. He knew the exact spot Charlie Kirk would seat and he planted his gear right before time. He was see coming in without any weapon, he brought his head down, covered his eyes with dark shade knowing fully well his face will be exposed to the camera.

The shooter may be difficult to be identified facially but I think since they got his handprint and footprint something can achieved today. I also heard they have taking the prints to highly classified facilities for more advanced scanning. Surely I expect good news today.

I know the shooter will be sweating in his pants, now that he has been identified.

Obviously there are individuals who are happy for the death of Charlie Kirk. Everyone has the right to air their opinion but the idea of killing someone because of transgender, gay and lesbianism is crazy.

No one should die for having debates. Charlie Kirk only had a debate he never insulted anyone.

Update: Trump says "WITH A HIGH DEGREE OF CERTAINTITY, CHARLIE KIRK SHOOTER IS IN CUSTODY"

Hopefully, we will hear official confirmation on how he was caught. There has been no conference  yet for the FBI or Trump to speak on when and where the shooter was caught. We should be expecting em in the late hour of the day. There is a rumor that someone who knows him, turned him in after seeing the video and photos.

Sorry 9:AM: Washington DC time zone: FBI to give update on Charlie Kirk killer.

Apparently his name is Tyler Robinson: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/charlie-kirk-shooter-manhunt-live-updates-rcna230762

Looks like his family turned him in. I wonder if they'll get the 100k reward?

Newyorktime first release this information. And from closed source they say his is Tyler Robinson.

But Trump and the FBI ae yet to assure us, he is the real shooter. For now Ill keep my hands crossed while watching the press conference.

I notice that page one doesn't have anyone who claims to be from the left wing saying they are disappointed about the murder. But there have been many leftists known to publicly celebrate the murder.

Of course the reason it was believed to be someone on the left is because a large fraction of the leftist base is often saying how much they want to kill people who disagree with them, like Trump for example. That, and the pro-trans movement messaging found on the shell casings. The transsexual political movement is also known to be much further left than any other direction.

So while you're complaining about people who complain about violence, you're not complaining about violence at all. However, Charlie Kirk was complaining about violence during the moment he was murdered.

Sadly, Charlie Kirk was among the first people killed in the USA in the left's war against free speech, which some of them choose to fight with bullets. A majority of Democrats are against free speech. Only a slim majority of people believe in the freedom of speech even in the USA overall.

Hate speech is hateful speech. Hate is an emotion. Expressing emotions including hatred is an essential right that should be done with words rather than bullets.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15086467/amp/Tyler-Robinson-Charlie-Kirk-killer-identified-Utah-Trump.html

There's some pictures of him on there.

FBI press conference has just got started now: https://www.youtube.com/live/Y4j6OCuCfoc?si=MUmhjmKfRuDDe5I4

Time and Time again people fall for the same crap, red flags left, right center.
At this very moment AI junk can still found somethimes, in some weeks/months time, no chance.
World news for some generated thing.
No, sign every post to weed out the criminals

https://talkimg.com/images/2025/09/12/UCHud5.jpeg

This is Tyler Robinson. The 22 year old who shot and killed, Charlie Kirk.

Below are the writings found on the rifle he used.

Fired casing: “Notices bulges OwO what’s this?”.
Unfired casing: “Hey fascist, catch!” (reported with arrow symbols in some briefings).
Unfired casing: “Oh Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, ciao, ciao” (a reference to the anti-fascist song).
Unfired casing: “If you read this, you are gay, LMAO”

Chatgpt was able to explain this chant, as i made my research.

“Bella Ciao” is a famous Italian folk song that became an anthem of resistance during World War II. It was sung by the Italian partisans who fought against fascist and Nazi forces. The lyrics are about sacrifice and the struggle for freedom, with the refrain “Bella ciao” (“Goodbye beautiful”) symbolizing a farewell to loved ones while going off to fight.


The reason why Tyler surrendered is because, he knows he might get caught, and would face huge penalty after on. He said goodbye to his family in the chant while going off to kill Charlie Kirk in the name of fighting against Fascism.

Like this is actually the main reason why so many people don't want to involve themselves into politics,because politics is really a dirty game and so many politicians believe the best way to silent those who are note I'm same like with them is by killing. Those politicians no longer see opponent with different views as citizens and human being but they see them as threats to their success in politics that's which is very annoying, I just pray God help us because the world today most especially in politics is not given at all, a citizen who doesn't have the mindset of violence can't participate in politics because that's the way politics has being played for the begining.

Politics is a career like every other profession. Politics has to do with views and ideas, so I don't understand why someone will kill another person because they don't share the same idea or view with them.
I really condem the killing of Charlie Kirk, because I think he has right to his opinion and it's for the people to either agree or disagree with his idea,  but resulting to shooting him is very wrong and I don't think any right thinking person will support such act. Politics should not be violence,  but rather it should should be platform for us to share ideas and agree or disagree. My condolences to his family.

This is not about being a gun because the culprit has already been arrested and will be charged to court very soon.
The police has been able to identify the culprit which was a 22 years collect student.
 He has no social identity and I believed this must have been masterminded by politician that is against free speech.

but to answer the question about the guy in blue
he was not some random student, faculty, visitor watching the debate. you can clearly see he is on the inside of the area, thus part of the entourage so would have been vetted and checked by security

Politics has turned into a dark game that no one is able to disagree with the next politician and get away with it, it could be that Charlie Kirk disagree with the opinion of other politicians and paid with his life. Everyone should have the freedom of speech and different opinions without fear, I may not be a politician but I like politics and I support wholeheartedly but right now I'm having a second thought because politics has become a dirty and deadly game and the weakest or the vulnerable gets eaten, Charlie Kirk didn't deserve to die like this because he was saying his own opinion and it is only normal to disagree with him without spilling blood, I saw in the news that his killer is a 22yrs old student and I'm yet to understand how a 22yrs old was able to pull that assassination off like a professional killer.

He can only be suspected as a result of the scene around the Utah University.
I don't see him as a potential suspect even if others do since he's top was not similar to that of the suspect.
This is a political assassination as described by the governor of Utah and they might have brainwashed the 22 years old  boy in carrying out this attack on Charlie Kirk our amaible activist. I felt so disturbed watching the scene video of how he was shoot at the presence of his family.

before anyone knew the killers name or description(before details of suspects clothes were released). some spotted this guy in blue shirt and noticed something in his hand and just alleged he might be a suitable suspect/man of interest. and even now people still are wondering about this guy and what was in his hand

i simply expelled some notions by just bringing attention to the fact of which side of the barrier he was on, to say he is not part of the random crowd. he seems to be one of the vetted/checked entourage allowed to be on the inside of the barrier. so im sure he was exonerated as not a suspect
obviously video footage would also show the direction and type of killshot was not of one from a close proximity of a small weapon

I am subscribed to his channel, where the videos are considerably longer than 10 seconds taken out of context.


What I don't base them on is a 10-second clip taken out of context.

From law point all humans are equal.
There are 128 gun relating deaths a day in US, somehow one fake event is making world news.
No blood on tent
No exit wound from 140 yards with a .30-06
Audio of gun not matching sound, its like a .223
Ring on finger changed finger it is on
How did the guy get on the roof, did he bring his ladder?
Taken away in black SUV instead of Ambulance
Hunter the last guy interviewing, cant stop giggling
Book released on Amazon a day before the shooting, of him being shot   Edit; https://youtu.be/vBgwZjsCBaE
People like Steve Crowder (changed name of show the very next day) faking sadness and outrage
Epstein files just varnished
Logo on shirt, hair ... https://youtu.be/_Y-2INjx2YE
Villain smile on first time in public after husband is supposed to be dead
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Squib Blood pack just like Trump used when loosing part of his ear
Trump first to anouce charlie is shot, first ot anouce the shooter found
Charlie's rise to power is artificial
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Good lord. Are you for real? A squib planted on his back can blow out a hole in his jugular spewing out super realistic fake blood? This is some Hollywood level special effects.

Reddit, my friend.

That is where all the crazies meet up and likely where this guy got radicalized too. As Bluesky did not exist back then.

**WARNING** **NSFW**

https://youtube.com/shorts/7HqspxT9eXY?si=oYQ5IoY4UsR3lf0K

If this video is not allowed for some reason I'll remove it or the mods can remove it. I seen a reply by hilariousandco and him quoting montaga about a squib and the shooting being faked basically. Watch the video and tell me how that was fake. Video is very graphic and you have to click the warning to view that is on the video.

The shooter was also turned in by his father FYI.

It catches my attention how the killing of this man was allowed to be uploaded and keep on the internet on social media like youtube, instagram and others webpages though.
I would have expected the videos of this killing to be taken down from all places of the internet because of the terms of services of those social media on gore and disturbing content, it is kind of weird if you think about it, in those communities you are not allowed so use some words, but at the same time you are allowed to upload and watch a political assassination with no filters or censorship, it sound like a contradiction.

I am not complaining though, I am glad for once, one can use social media too inform oneself with the raw reality of the facts

Ironically, he was ultimately killed with the same weapon he used to fight for his freedom. This was clearly a premeditated assassination. Previously, Donald Trump was nearly killed in an assassination attempt by a child while Trump was campaigning, but fortunately the shot missed and only injured Trump's ear. However, what happened to his beloved son, Charlie Kirk, was truly beyond help even though he was rushed to the hospital because the bullet directly hit a vital part. So, it is clear that the shooter was no amateur. However, to prevent a similar incident from happening again, the United States government must issue a strict policy regarding the prohibition of firearms for its citizens, even though I do not know whether the shooter was part of the community or was indeed a soldier or a trained veteran.

I personally dislike, and you could even say I hate, Charlie Kirk, especially because of his harsh and often hurtful statements, especially regarding the Palestinian issue. He clearly sided with the oppression of the Palestinian people by the Israeli Zionists, and that's what angered many people. But no matter how strong my hatred is, I still don't think he deserved to die by being shot in public, especially since the recording was widely circulated on social media. Ultimately, he was simply speaking his own views, albeit sharp and provocative. The way to silence such opinions should be through argument, discussion, or resistance through sound opinion, not with bullets. Because the muzzle of a gun can never be spoken to; it only breeds more hatred and revenge.
So, I offer my condolences on Charlie Kirk's death.

a 200metre shot is not like the 1.5mile sniper record of the military.. an average rifle is easily accurate at 600metre so a 200metre shot is not as difficult as people think. and may only require someone with deer hunting experience or just backyard practice to achieve. infact some states wont even give someone a gun permit unless they can be certified to have hit a target at a certain distance, whereby they have to show they can effectively humanely hit a deer before being allowed to go deer hunting. so just general training to get a gun would end up being used as the experience to then harm someone

also when it comes to gun control. people are already talking about stricter rules. but you then have to ask how did the guy get a rifle into a uni campus. commonsense guessing would be disguise it in a guitar box or a sports bag(hockey) or something similar which are normal to see being carried around a campus. so how would things like that get policed..
.. would it be more pre permit education..
.. would it be turning universities into a search and seize security zone..
.. would it be [insert your idea]

There are so many politicians out there, that it is difficult to check them all out. I had barely heard of Charlie Kirk before his assassination. But now his name can be found many places, especially in alternative news.

Apparently Charlie Kirk was more well known in America than I was aware of.


WTH??? Office Depot Supervisor and Manager REFUSE To Print Posters For Charlie Kirk Vigil—Tell 3 Teenagers Who PAID in Advance: “We don’t print propaganda here!” [VIDEO] (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/384313-2025-09-13-wth-office-depot-supervisor-and-manager-refuse-to-print-posters.htm)

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/wth-office-depot-supervisor-manager-refuse-print-posters/
The Gateway Pundit spoke exclusively with one of the parties involved in helping to promote a Charlie Kirk Prayer Vigil in Portage, Michigan, tonight, about a shocking incident that involved  3 teenagers being refused service at a local Office Depot by a supervisor and manager because the project was considered "political propaganda," by them.

A stunning video was sent to me by Kelly Sackett, the woman working with 3 teenage boys who were organizing a vigil for Charlie Kirk. The teenage boys paid in advance to have posters made for their vigil in Portage, MI. When they got to Office Depot to pick up their posters, two of the employees informed them that their posters weren't printed and that they were not going to be printed by them. When the teenage boys asked, "Why?" one of the employees told them, "We don't print propaganda!"

"So, we came in for an order earlier— for—to print a poster for a vigil tonight, for somebody that passed," one of the boys can be heard saying, "Yeah, so we don't print propaganda," the female/male? supervisor tells him. "It's not—" the teenager tried to explain, but the manager interrupts him, saying, "It's propaganda! I'm sorry. We don't print that here!"  The teenage boy asks the two adult Office Depot employees, "What's your name?" to which the male employee responds, "I'm (unintelligible), I'm the print supervisor." The female/male? Office Depot employee replies, "I'm one of the managers. So, unfortunately, we do not print—"

Here is a copy of the receipt for the Charlie Kirk prayer vigil posters that were paid for in advance:

"Okay, so you say you don't print propaganda, but this is for somebody who passed away a couple of years [days] ago," the teenager explains. "That's political propaganda, unfortunately." The teenager desperately tries to explain that the posters are for a vigil tonight.

"What makes it political propaganda? one of the teenagers can be heard asking. "Because it's political propaganda, and we don't have to—" the female/male? manager explains. The print supervisor interrupts to tell the teenagers who are helping to host a prayer vigil tonight that they can always come back on Monday and talk to their general manager, telling them, "You're welcome to return."
... (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/wth-office-depot-supervisor-manager-refuse-print-posters/)

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Lots of alternative news channels are worse than main stream media this days, will do anything to get views/money. Very few stood the test of time.
Charlie Kirk was a character created for this event, like many others
 https://youtu.be/JtrgIj7dqsQ

Anyone who cant see the 3 in the logo, go and visit a eye doctor
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Looks like the sponsors (and almost certainly the perps in the 'murder') are running a trial-balloon on having Ben Shapiro 'pick up Charlie's bloody microphone' and lead the mission.

I, for one, am totally in favor of this for a variety of reasons.  Hopefully others who feel likewise do what they can in the initial phases to make the sponsors feel like they have enough of a chance to push the thing.  That will produce the opportunity for the fun part to kick in.

We need Ben!  Goooo Ben!

No matter how perfect a system is, there will always be loopholes and someone will find a way to exploit them. I was unaware that the Charlie Kirk assassination video was posted on the popular social media networks you mentioned. But there have been times in the past when I have even come across porn, sex videos on Facebook or YouTube. But they only exist for a short time, they will be deleted and that account will also be banned shortly after. So I think it was just an accident, there was no political interference there.

Also, it's not too hard to find that clip on X or Reddit.

That's good question. Usually NSFW content like video where someone get killed is quickly removed from social media. But sometimes it's not. In most cases that's videos that caused big resonance like famous politician or celebrity getting killed. Starting from JFK, then Japanese PM Shinzo Abe and now Charlie Kirk. Videos of these assasinations is all over the internet.
Also, probably everyone already video saw Ukrainian girl killed in metro by some mad dude.
It's a bit strange that such videos is allowed while you can get banned just for using bad words.

Umm, what are you talking about? Leftists were literally debating him, while guy who killed him was raised by MAGA gun nut family and guy was most likely a far right groyper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers). Or just mental case raised by MAGA hats.

I rarely use "false flag" argument, but messages he left was such an obvious 4 chan style trolling attempt that it just hurts my brain how people are eating it up. And i dare you to explain how they were "pro-trans", because that's just BS.

Also ALL leftist media outlets are condemning this horrible political violence.

interviews with family and election records shows that he was not really political and not an active voter (he didnt vote for trump)


so appears more about anti-kirk, rather than pro-rep or pro-dem

It is bizarre that someone would even think to kill this guy. I didn't really know who he was before South Park; before then he and Haley Joel Osment were one in the same person according to my brain. Anyway yeah weird to kill him when everyone had the choice of simply ignoring him. He wasn't being shoved down anyone's throats.

BTW, all politics are a stupid waste of your short time while on planet earth, and whoever you are, I guarantee you that you don't actually have your own political opinions. You are just regurgitating the stuff you heard that sounds best to you. You won't ever have control over any of it - you're not actually part of a team and you reap no benefits for being some unfathomably rich peoples' propaganda mindslave - yet you still feel the need to push their talking points for them. Why? Its all nonsense that stems from the weakness of needing to be a part of something so you can have the double benefit of instant friends and not having to think for yourself. Motorcycle clubs, sports team fans, the Shriner's Club, Mooses, Elks, Masons, its all the same bullshit as Democrats and Republicans or Liberals and Conservatives.

Your treehouse is not better than their treehouse. Its not even your treehouse.

he wasnt a TV presenter, TV/movie/music celebrity, but was big in the social media and on campus guest speakers of college/uni age people, where part of his on campus presentation is to get people into debating him and opening their minds to opposing views on certain subject matter.. to get people to wake up to the crap media propaganda of different topics. so he also was not a whisper in the background that people ignore if they are of college/university age


i wouldnt blame politics directly for this psi-ops game of community indoctrination. thats more about social media clickbaiting and finding certain people and blasting them with niceties they want to hear to feel like they are part of something. after all how often do you actually see a politician knock on your door to introduce you into their club vs how often people are swiping through social media being shown reels, skips, feeds of exactly what people want to hear even if its a lie

yes politics has joined social media to recruit loyal voters to one group or other, but politics these days is just a 2 choice thing, and not something tailored to everyones whim and desire

yes politics has changed somewhat in the last couple years(ill get to this later), but its more so how social media swung from one ideology to the other in the last couple years. from woke to awakened,

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as for the specifics as to charlie kirks killers motives. some media are leading to beleive main defying and defining point revolves around the fact that the killers "room-mate"(in relationship with) was trans(male to female), which recently with the whole younger generations change from the dem campaign of trans acceptance/trying to get everyone to be DEI / LGBT inclusive,  to the reality awakening of trying to quash the campaigns via social media and debate.. i can see how being part of one group and then told things are different now will rile some people up into feel like they are being attacked by someone simply open to debating the subject someone wholeheartedly believed in and made life choices because of

running scenarios through head, playing 'if it was you' devils advocate games in your head.
imagine your formative teenage years of forming your own identity and interests, where you see yourself as straight and desiring women, but you are part of an era where you are indoctrinated into the DEI mindset to be open to date non-gender/non-binary/trans but its ok because the person you date sees themselves as female so that you can still identify yourself as straight.. but then in last 9 months see certain debaters and social media change to a different era of male=male, female=female. which pretty much ends up sounding like it is attacking you personally and calling you gay because of who you are with

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 obviously the reason does not justify the crime and im definitely no advocate of the whole DEI thing. but it is of interest as to his mind/psychology of how he can feel played by the system and found a protagonist/mouthpiece of opposition to what he thought was his whole identity/life choice formation, to blame or feel attacked by personally if then questioning his life choices/identity or having his choices/identity questioned

Left killed Charlie ! No Right killed Charlie ! No left ! No right !

https://ronpaulinstitute.org/charlie-kirk-refused-netanyahu-funding-offer-was-frightened-by-pro-israel-forces-before-death-friend-reveals/?fbclid=IwY2xjawMyxf5leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHoOb1bP4tg_0YDBz0lnAu9IYo4Kug5toN3HgZCpIAzuYBhvoZmN9yqoXJXiQ_aem__acaQttsf3lZVQnlbzMF3g

- Kirk refused to go to "Israël".

- Kirk refused "Israël money" ("Israël money" is actually US money Israël has stolen and they use to corrupt american politics).

- Charlie Kirk's now final interview: he criticised Israel to Ben Shapiro's face.

- Should I speak about Netanyahu's tweets 10 mins after he was shoot ?


Of course Israël killed Charlie, everybody sees it, everybody knows it. Please do not be hypocrites.

Yeah, the Zionazis are just short of the line of bragging about the hit at this time.  Certainly they are making it crystal clear to the semi-insiders.

Given that the Zionazis have the Trump admin installed with the likes of Bondi and Patel in place, I would not be the least bit surprised to see a 'night of the long knives' taking out a bunch of problem-children...with ridiculous patsies mapped to each.  Actually the patsies could be virtual, or they might not even bother at all as the Lefties and the Righties can auto-blame one another with no input required.

Kirk took the money so he was fair game.  Carlson and Owens did as well, and if they survive it would indicate to me that they are playing some kind of an inside game (akin to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Trust.)  In the twisted doctrine of Talmudism, just being Jewish is also justification for elimination if one is 'self hating' and problematic enough.   I'd be on my toes if I were one of the Grey-Zone guys.

Fuentes I don't know about.  I was always suspicious that he signed the contracts, but it could be that it was just a function of them trying to get to where they could groom him.  He claims it happened and failed, and outwardly that looks plausible.  Under the apparent ethics of these people anyone or anything which is poses enough of a present or future threat to 'the world to come' can be done away with.  It just seems like the bar is higher.  One way or another, I would certainly be on fairly high guard if I were Fuentes.

This is funny because when they tried to kill Trump, they officially blamed Iran, but now that it is just Charlie Kirk, this is not credible so they blamed "woke lobby" :).
This is the idea. They did not want it to be the perfect murder.


I think it is a warning for trumpists, and they hope it will be enough to shut their mouth.

It is like 9/11. In 2002, just to talk about obviously strange things like the passports they found on the floor was antisemitism.
Now you can even talk freely about the Mossad agents that were in, knew everything, took pictures, it is ok, they do not care.

It is less and less "Shoah", "democracy of Middle-East"... and more and more "the chosen ones" "we have nuclear weapons" and "we will kill you".

Even Jane Fonda has understood.

Exactly thoughts and prayers.

The rate at which things like this continue occuring with ease is alarming  and it's starting portray how the youths are being affected by information that gets into their hands and how they use that information, because how would a kid just throw everything away their life's, future because of another person, just because you don't agree with what someone is saying the next thing you do is to kill the person, it's quite unfortunate because that kid just disabled two families, Kirk's family and his family making them go through these kind of trauma, they would forever be labelled as the family that killed Kirk. We can only give prayers , let the soul of the departed rest in peace.

I remain highly unconvinced that the Trump thing wasn't theater.  Kirk is less likely to me, but perfectly possible.  We'll see what his wife does.  She probably would know full well what happened and who Charlie was concerned about.  If she and the kids exit stage-right to live a quite life in some exotic location with a 'new man', that will indicate something.


Trump is reported to be terrified of Bibi and I have no reason to doubt it.  I've only ever seen Patel lurking uncomfortably in the background and looking for all the world as if he's about to wet his pants.  Looks to me like he got the message loud and clear.  Pretty much everyone assigned to Trump's cabinet was a solid Zionist from day one including the few mildly interesting picks like RFKjr and Gabbard.  (The biggest public health crisis in America is antisemitism according to Kennedy...LOL.)

Handsome reward awaits if you find the piece of ear what has been removed by the shot.


Some of the things, this constract did say.                              Kash Patel will meet Charlie in "Valhalla"
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Politician should understand life is so precious and should be protected with all cost.as a politician you mustn't win the hearts of everyone,if someone doesn't like you shouldn't be the reason to kill.its his right to disagree with your political ideologies.
Person who does that should be made to face the full wrat of the law to serve as deterrent to others.

Candace Owens has named two of the Zio-goons who threatened the Charlie Kirk and instructed him to take another trip to Israel to kneel before Netansatan.  Supposedly he refused and a couple weeks later, Blam!  The two names were Bill Ackerman and Seth Dillon.

She promises at least two more names coming soon.  I wonder who these two might be.  Any guesses?

In a similar vein, has anyone tracked down any more information about N888KG?  Looking just now, I see that people did find out who the owner is, and it's a funder of Chabad Lubavitch.  That is so suspicious to me that I'd give even odds that it was one more of those non-operational (fakey) things to make it crystal clear to the targets of an intimidation campaign what is really going on...as if the targets would have any doubt by now.

Where I came from, people do not kill others (opposition ) because of differed political views or alignment. They only kill people who will likely stop them from rigging the elections and recycling their fellow heartless politicians.
In my country, no one pays attention to manifestos again. Infact, people no longer vote because they know that a leader is already decided before the election. So, there's actually no such need to kill such an eloquent public personality.

The irony of the matter is that I have listened Charlie support citizens possession of arms and he died by the very thing he supported. The life is cruel sometimes.

I read yesterday that the shooters Father, who actually turned him in to authorities, rejected the $1.5m reward from the FBI & other donators. He actually requested that the money be given to Kirk’s family. He can’t be blamed for his son’s actions & I have to say, that is a very noble thing to do, he is obviously a good man unlike his son.

Make Amerika great again                     Senting the letter of condolence a week before the shot, is wild
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Don't worry Trump will deal with Hillary, Fauci, Gates, Epstein files.... anytime soon, just waaait

Most of the $1.2M was from a specific billionaire hedge fund Zionist.  Multiple reports are that recently said billionaire summoned Kirk to the Hamptons and had a scary freak-out and also during the dressing-down called Netansatan to arrange for Kirk to be sent for another re-education in Israel.  Kirk is said to have refused to go, and is reported to have been scared for his safety.

Now in a 'great again' U.S., the justice system would follow up that lead and see where it takes them.  It's just common sense and basic investigation.  But we are far from 'great again', and seem to be heading the opposite direction under Trump.  Who could have seen that coming?

Achman seems to have gotten his tit stuck much farther into the wringer than he probably anticipated.  The $1M was probably hoped to nail down a patsy and move on.  It seems like a panic move to me.

There would appear to be some hope that other mistakes Achman has made (such as throwing down against Icahn who is his senior and long term Trump co-owner) might contribute to a more detailed analysis of the situation than would normally be the case.  Time will tell.

UPDATE: Tyler Robinson has been convicted for seven charges.

1. Aggravated murder. Seeking the death penalty.
2. Felony discharge of a firearm causing serious bodily injury.
3. Obstruction of justice (2 counts)
4. Allegedly telling his roommate to delete incriminating texts
5. Committing a violent offense in the presence of a child.

The court proceeding are ongoing. Before the end of the week, justice will surely be serve.