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Both salary and profit are both rewards for actions. Think about it; salary is paid in most cases just twelve times a year, yes twelve times, profit on the other end can be earned any day, and any time of the year, off course a return on investment.

Salary can be seen as a quick fix, working and expecting to be paid mostly at the end of a given period. Another thought is; salary is mostly paid by profit earners.

A steady turnover of profit in most cases is as a result of consistent entrepreneurial  effort.

The volume and impact of a salary and profit is incomparable with that of profit.

Plus what is reinvested from salary and profit is a big margin, it is more likely to reinvest a large chunk of profit, than that if a salary which is mostly used to pay accumulated bills.

Profit over salary, any time any day!

Isn't this oversimplification?

While there are employees who resigned and started their own business, there are also business owners who ended up being employees. And then there are both employees and businessmen.

There are pros and cons. Salary is regular, stable, gradually increasing even, comes with overtime and all kinds of bonuses. Profit on the other isn't guaranteed, volatile, needs capital, only comes later after recovery of investment, may not even come at all. But salary may be packaged with a strict boss, toxic workplace, burnout, overwork, and so on. Profit could mean less stress, being your own boss, less pressure, and so forth.

In other words, there isn't a simple formula for this. Businesses could be losing, go bankrupt, or yield too little profit. I guess what's important in the end is that you enjoy what you're doing and it sufficiently supports your needs and some reasonable wants.

Salary and profit are both outcomes of effort but the way they shape life is very different salary is predictable and steady it shows up twelve times a year like you said and that predictability helps people plan their monthly expenses bills rent food and savings it offers a sense of security because you know when and how much is coming. Profit on the other hand is flexible and can happen any time it’s the result of entrepreneurial effort taking risks building systems and finding opportunities while it doesn’t come with the same certainty as salary it can grow without limit in theory the more successful the venture the larger the profit and unlike a fixed paycheck it isn’t capped by hours worked.

Another key difference is reinvestment a salary is often stretched thin by recurring expenses leaving little to put back into growth profit however naturally pushes you to reinvest because you see the potential for scaling what worked once can be multiplied the cycle of reinvestment makes profit a stronger engine for wealth building. Salary keeps life stable profit builds wealth over time one is about security the other is about freedom depending on the season of life someone is in both have their place but for creating long term impact profit tends to outweigh salary.

If you only invest $10K it won't be as much as exchanging time for money.

Make money and manage money are different, if you make money, you don't have to think about anything because you only need to care how to work your best. If you manage money, your options could start from A to Z. If you wrong to invest your money, your money will gone. If you didn't choose a good asset, you only earn smaller than the inflation rate in your country + capital gain taxes you paid.

Both thing are important because most rich people didn't just quit their job after they have money, instead they switch from corporate slave/freelancer to be a businessman.

Are you talking about business vs. job? Or are you talking about crypto profits vs. a job? If you ask me whether to choose a job or business, I will choose business. If you ask me to choose between a job and crypto profits, then I will choose both. Because for crypto trading it doesn't need extra time. During the job you can manage your crypto trading. Though the job gives you twelve times, it's a stable income for us to make sure we survive well. We shouldn't leave a job for crypto trading, but you can leave a job for a real-life business from which you can make profits.

For the trading, you also need to be careful; your portfolio could be dumped instead of making profits for some time. That's why I said above I won't leave my job for crypto trading, which is really not necessary. The matter is profits from which sources have to be decided based on circumstances.

Salaries are paid by business owners who have made multiple times the value of the amounts they pay their workers. Apart from those in government payroll, I don't think any salary paid by private firms is guaranteed for longer period.  It's still very possible to turn your salary into profit by reinvesting some part of your salary into yourself to secure a higher revenue or starting some small side hustle to expand your income sources and generate profits from it.

A salaried worker isn't limited to their salaries alone even within their working environment, it's a mindset thing, you can upgrade yourself in an in demand skill within your organization and still offer that service to Co-workers still within your working environment and create residual income from it.

You can receive your work payment (salary) in weekly or monthly basis or even day basis, it depends on your occupation and your contract with the employers. Like in Bitcoin forum, if you are hired for working in a signature campaign, payment will be in weekly basis.

With profit, you did not write it clearly but by saying about daily profit, it is only possible with trading while trading is very dangerous and most traders lose money. You can skip trading, forget about it, don't trade, and focus on investment in Bitcoin (remember Bitcoin as it is a safest cryptocurrency for investment) and hold your bitcoins very long term. Profit will come after several years and if you divide 4 year or 8 year profit to total days, you will have good profit per day.

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Not many people can earn a profit so they prefer to chase a salary by working in some work. Earning profit needs courage to start a business and face the challenge without stopping. They need to be creative than their competitor so they can make more profit.

Earning profit is not easy because they must work and find the right formula that can give them profit. It needs more research and test it before they can see their strategy works and make money.

If you are a creative entrepreneurial person and diligently allocating your financial resources on investments, you be at better prospective positions to earn more profits than that of salary earners.
The ratio of employees salaries depends on the generated incomes of the company. Expenditures are always evaluated while salaries are disbursed based on income.

Even if you earns thousands of dollars as salary and think it is sustainable enough to rely on, it is a false because inflations will always chop it values off but on the smart move, you can creat your own resourceful opportunities, becomes your own boss in a path way by investing with your discretionary incomes if at all you must still have to be an employee in the long term.

I am sure we would not continue to have the employees energies for a lifetime, so to secure the bag, it is better to diversify our source of incomes to investments which give a more financial freedom not just for retirement sake but easing stress of generating incomes while it success may be riskier and or requiring more tasks than that of employments. It could though depend the nature of the firm or the area of investment if investing in digital asset, tech, stock or real estate.

I think Profit has that unlimited potential while salary feels capped and predictable. But not everyone is in a position to take the risks that come with chasing profit.
A salary might not grow as fast, but it gives stability and security, which many people rely on. Profit can change lives if managed well, but it can also disappear overnight.

Maybe the smartest move is using salary to build enough cushion so you can take risks and pursue profit without putting your entire life on the line.

People are often afraid of taking up challenges and prefer to remain poor or hidden under the shadows of an employer to make a living. Most times they are afraid of rejection and prefer to lay low but truth is that it is more beneficial to be daring and create something meaningful for yourself. You do not know what would give you the favorable breakthrough so you gotta keep the grind alive.

I love the adage that that goes like this "IF it is easy, then it is a playful task" No rewarding endeavor is easy. You have to put in the work and the commitment to make things happen, else nothing for you.

There is no comparison, of course, of being employed and owning a business or investments, because the first one is mostly a compulsion, something people do to survive and to earn a bread for themselves and their family, the second one is a choice that people make to have better life, a better work-life balance, and possibly accumulate wealth over time, which isn't possible through a job or barely possible because there are very few jobs that pay you enough to become rich over time with all the expenses you need to take care of.

The thing is, not everyone can choose the second option, because they can't afford to. Do you think every person can start a business or make investments? No, they can't, because you need extensive resources for that, and enough backup so that if things don't work out, you don't have to sleep on the road the next day. Talking about jobs and employment, almost any person can get that as long as they qualify for it, or at least have some sort of skill that they can use to make some money.

First I want to ask you a question that what kind of life do you want? Do you want a tension free life or a tension filled life. If I have the answer to this question then I think you will get your answer yourself.
I think that investment is not for everyone because most people want a secure life. After which people cannot fulfill their various needs due to lack of money.

In this case, if you can invest in a business or something with a little risk, then you can profit two to three times the money you earn by working. I want to say this one thing that those who work, their companies earn about 10 times their salary. And at the end of the day they pay them little salary. So I think this matter varies from person to person.

It all depends on the individual. Some people prefer salary to owning a business because they are poor in business. Starting up a business is not easy and takes time to grow if you are not rich. I have seen a lot of people that their had their business and failed. This is because immediately, they set up the business, they have nothing left and started depending on the business for survival.

I would prefer both having a monthly income and also having a business so that, I don't depend on only one for survival. With the level of hardship in the country having multiple sources of income is good.

It's legit oversimplification and a lot of young folks have gotten themselves trapped in the believe that salary is not a big deal which has led them to start of businesses they know little about and in the long run fail to deal with the risk that's associated with running and taking care of a business.

There are cases where salaries can be more than the profit you get from your business and other instances when going after a business can yield more profits. Depending on what's on ground, either of the options can be either good or bad. If you're not wired to take the kind of risk that's associated with owning a business, don't go for that and if you're not wired to work for salary, do what works for you. Not every one will be a salary earner and definitely not everyone can stand to take care of a business and get profit in return. Profit or salary is person dependent.

What work are you using as a reference for salary and what are you using for the profits, you need to explain the business model you are using for it. There are some salary that if you give me, I will quit my business and take the salary full time especially if it's a government work, you get paid for your job and not as stressful with risk of doing business and also we have some business I will never trade for any job, I will stick to my business full time.

However, if you can have the both there is nothing bad in it. There are people that earn from their job and also run their business so you don't have to depend on salary all the time and the same time the day ur business didn't work out, your salary will help you through.

Earning salary is not easy. When you do a job, you always have to stay within a set of rules and work according to the target that the company gives you at any cost. So although getting a salary is a security, it requires a lot of hard work. But in the case of investment, if you can invest in the right place, you can easily get a lot of profit. But there is a lot of risk in the case of investment. If you cannot invest properly, your loss will be more than the profit. Investment will not provide you with any security. However, investment is able to give you much more money than salary.

After you have explained the definition, sources and characteristics of Salary VS Profit, why not try having a salary and profit at the same time, you can act as an employee and also run a business at the same time. I am still trying to increase my income even though I work as a private employee by seeking profits from Bitcoin investments and online businesses using social media platforms. This kind of side job doesn't take up much time and isn't too complicated because it can be done at night while relaxing.
When I have two sources of income from different professions, I can use my salary to cover my daily living expenses, while I use the profits to expand my business and, at certain times, I can also accumulate investment funds.

Your idea is definitely a good idea but running a business along with a job is very difficult you cannot maintain these two things at the same time. Because in the case of a job you have to spend a certain amount of time there and then your sleep, food and drink, giving time to family, and taking some rest are very important to keep yourself mentally calm. But if you can run these two together by working hard then after a few years you can skip the job and run only the business then you will not have any problem. But initially when you leave your job and start a business you will face many challenges if you are not financially strong.

There will always be employers of labor who will use the profits from their businesses to pay their workers and staffs and the higher the labor force, the higher the production and of which huge profits are expected. Since everyone do not have the capital to establish a business or start a company, there will always be salary earners but as a salary earner it is also important to save money to establish your own business such that you will also be an employer of labor. As a business owner, you can also choose to use the profits from your business to invest in valuable assets that can give you good profits in the future.

It really depends on the nature of the job. There are jobs that are far better than most startups, just like there are startups that can easily outperform certain jobs. At the end of the day, both sides have their own pros and cons, and it all comes down to the specific job in question and the circumstances surrounding it.

It depends on how much, honestly, and various circumstances.
Let's say I earn $10,000/month in profit from my business, and someone offers me a job for $20,000/month. I might hand over my business and start working for that guy. In an ideal world, being a business owner is undoubtedly the best thing, but not everyone has the capital and ability to do so. OP talks about investment, and the main factors in investing are (1) the size of your capital and (2) time, which not everyone has.

So IMO both profits and salaries are good, and nothing wrong with choosing both or one of them as long as it can meet your needs.

I was thinking the debate is usually between salary and commission but it seem as if you change the narrative, that's thoughtful. However, salary is not just about month end, there are countries who do weekly. That's by the way.

Salary is regarded as dividend earned in monetary value for working for another person while profit is gains for doing your own business. In other words, if you are working for somebody, you won't get that unaccounted daily financial reward, you are subject to scrutiny or approval and merit for the service you render. However, I prefer that joy of independence that comes with profit. Profit has the modus of bitcoin where you have the freedom to do what you wish with your money and not subject to a boss on top of your boss. In salary, a boss is always the superior who pays salary out of his profit.

If everything has a price to be paid, now you just don't have to talk about those business owners making profit from their business and paying little to workers; also talk about the times when, whether a business makes profit or not, they still have to pay the salary to workers out of their own personal pockets.

Some businesses make a whole lot, but as someone who is looking for a way to start up, you need to work to gain experience and the finances to start up your own and still have others who will work for you.

“Profit over salary, any time any day” no doubt we’ll all agree with the statement above as a result of being an entrepreneur is more profitable compared to a paying job. The whole salary and profit making differ, I think when making comparisons like this we must judge generally base on the situation including a country economy, the job, a person status and the value of starting a business or investment etc.
Honestly we have some high paying jobs that can earn a worker free access to start a business without struggling much including investment, the point is finding what suits a person financially. We all have our different definition about profit meanwhile choosing profit comes with a lot of hard work and dedication, not everyone is able to cope to an extend especially when such person is not financially capable, generally both return gives income aside the fact profit over salary is high valued.

So what are you suggesting, every compnays has to pay a share of their profits with employees or encouraging everyone to start their own compnay so they can make money?

Someone can make 50 million a day as profit but it's extremely rate with a fixed pay but who is stopping them to run their compnay and generate in millions as we thing it is but guess what it is not that easy and it comes with it's own challenges.

We like profit and that's because we know that it's going to get bigger than our salaries. But it's not always the same case. Bigger profits from businesses and investments are not the same at all times. In order for a person to profit a lot, it requires a lot of effort for them to have a better capital and then earn from it. While some say it won't require someone's huge bucks to invest and profit a lot. It's also possible but, it's all about how you'll set the foundation before you earn good profits in either investments or businesses.

It true that salary is guaranteed and profit is not. It's also a fact that a salary earner can lose their job, why a profit earner can not be sacked, since they are their own boss.
In my opinion I think salary earners are those that are scared to take risk, so they prefer a 9-5 where they are sure of their salary every 30 days, but we need to realize that the job is not secured,  like I said you can be fired anytime. On the other hand profit earners are those that are willing to take risk. They are ready to suffer if the investment does not payoff, but if it does, they might be on their way to financial freedom. I think I will always prefer a profit earner than salary.

You speak of it like there aren't much risk in making profits. Take for instance someone who's into a business and has goods which he bought at a high price during their countries inflation and then things got back to normal and the price dropped to half of which he bought them. Don't you think he would be at loss? A salary earner on the other hand won't be affected by this because he's money is most likely going to be untouched.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that making profits is bad, but sometimes we might have to look at things from another angle. It's would even be better to try out best to make profits and still earn salary till we get to some extent..

It depends on the type of profit and the type of salary. Someone who has a very low scale business can't compare their earnings with someone earning six figures. Don't forget athletes, doctors, Engineers, lawyers and other professionals are salary earners now it depends on your salary, also this salary earners has been able to use the salaries they got from their job to purse their entrepreneurship dreams.
If you have the chance and are earning well from your salary you can find a way to earn both salary and make profit from other opportunities.

Both salary and profit are earned through hard work. Even in both cases, your talent is important. The biggest difference between salary and profit is risk and capital. As an employee, it is possible to get salary based on your talent and hard work and it is predictable and stable, even in terms of salary, there is no risk. On the other hand, to earn profit, you need the ability to take risks and capital along with your talent and hard work, which not everyone has. Even if it is possible to get profit every day, it is unpredictable, unstable and very risky.

The attitude of an employee and the attitude of a businessman are always different, an investor is never afraid of taking risks and can easily accept business losses and run towards profit again at double speed. The life of a businessman does not run in a straight line, rather, their life is full of ups and downs. But what a successful businessman achieves in a few years is equivalent to the achievements of an employee in his entire life.

Most of the employed people are afraid of taking risks and they feel more comfortable being slaves to others which is the opposite of the business person. Their life runs on a straight line principle and it is very easy for them to arrange a monthly plan. The good thing is that they do not have to go through the ups and downs like a businessman. But it is difficult for them to achieve anything big in life.

Everything has its good and bad sides, but whatever you do, keep doing it with dedication. If you are ready to live a simple life and be slaves to others then you can choose a job. If you dream of achieving something big by taking risks then choose business, but here you have to have a losing mentality. No job is small, always prioritize your freedom.

You made it a serious discussion about profit over salary as many entrepreneurs need to understand it. Yeah a salary has many limitations but it comes with stablity and prediction. Anyone who is doing a job can expect his salary how much it will be or how much they have signed for. You are right that profits don't have limitations while salary is fixed and paid at intervals. A salary is the payment of our job our hardwork our services. While a profit is the result of many risks, Innovation, creativity and logical thinking and it can be grown on larger scale with right efforts and planning. As you have written that salary people can also do so as a businessman is earning profits. Reinvestment can play a major role in the life of a salary gainer beacause he can use his salary to save some money for investment. So profit and salary play different role in life at different stages.

There is nothing wrong with earning salary if that's what anyone prefers but it cannot be compared to when you are making profit. The programming of the world is to keep people in bondage and the only way to be free from the matrix is to have something that gives you profit without working for anyone, this is what freedom is all about.  Depending only on what your being paid for working under someone Is a trap

Profit from trading, business, side hustle that is apart from salary is always better, because we can earn exactly 12 months a year, but with profit from trading, business we can earn more, and more time, although the quantity does not matter, the amount of the money matters, if you make $100k a year and after receiving profits 120 times a year and still you make a $10k profit. Not a match.

I agree with your point here that salary takers are not risk takers, they prefer stable source of income and the companies in which they are working, they are the results of risk takers, and they won and now hiring people to do the work, while they making money managing things for which they can even hire people and they can chose to do nothing.

Nothing you said in this post make any sense. Maybe from your end, it makes sense that your investment is more than your salary but it's not like that everywhere. You can't make an investment that is going to give you a profit without earning a salary, it's your salary that is going to act as a stepping stone to your investment unless you had your investment money fall down from heaven which is not possible. What I think you should have said is which one is good for long term and that is your investment.

You didn't make an emphasis on how anything that gives you profits today can as well gives you a loss, you can never be too careful about it because something are beyond what you can control. Some investment are affected by how the economy is run, you can't control it. When we had covid back in 2019 every retail business had to gb e greatest fall in history and you can't do anything about it, some people live with it for a year until everything came back to normal.

Both are crucial if you want to live your life to the fullest. I mean you have a stable job that pays you regular amount of salary, and of course any potential investment that in the end will give you unlimited amount of profits. However, if you want to maximize your potential of earning income, then focus on generating profits. Profits are bigger than any salary, at least if you have a highly potential investment. But if you are just working on a minimal investment, it’s better to just keep your job first and invest without leaving your job.

I do not catch the drift of this write up between salary and profit.

But here's some of my thoughts on it. They are both distinct and while one seem like money paid to a worker, another is money earned by an investor or a business owner. You also forgot to talk about dividend. It is another money from profits that goes to shareholders. And then we can talk about royalties too. It is money that goes to the owners of intellectual properties for the use of their ideas, products and what have you. I can go on but salary and profit money is just more, some people do not earn any like you have already read.

As it depends on the person whether he can venture into something like investments or business that will give him regular profit, or he is more on just staying on a stable job. Because not all people can venture into a business, right? So this option depends on the capability of the person. You can't say that a person will go to business, but have no passion on this. Whether business or steady job, will be up to the individual as they know for sure what are their capabilities in this human survival. A lot are choosing steady jobs for so many reasons. Whereas, some are trying their hands on business for better opportunities. Whichever path one chooses, he should be ready for the consequences on his chosen path.

Well, that is new for me, because from what I understand, my salary is the profit I make over my labor. So it's not actually one versus another, rather there is a mutual connection between both of them. Depending the place where you work, the salary can be also received hourly, daily, weekly or every 15 days. You can work for yourself, or you can work for a company, and the money you will receive will be a salary, anyway.

What investors earn are dividends or interest over their funds, what is also profit, which correspond to passive income category. I think it would be more accurate to compare passive income to salary made from your active daily labor.

Either way you are trading time for money. Sure, it may be possible to make on one more than the other. Depending on how good you are "negotiating" how much money your time is worth. To each his own talents.  ;D

Although some people do seem to box themselves into a low-income mindset just because of their family/personal lives jobs can become overbearing, and that kind of "safe"
life is chosen over finding out your own potential.

In other words: No guts no glory.

I would definetly go with profit investment because of financial freedom and that i can assume responsability. But i think we should well define frw concepts for clarifications based on your analysis. First, monthly fixed salary cannot be defined as an investment revenue for the employee, because it's a whole different thing. Second, what is paid to employee as a monthly salary is an investment cost of the employer who hired those employee as a part of his investment plan.

There is a realized and unrealized profit. Salary is fixed and comes in time usually and is always realized. Profit needs to be taken out of the market in trading perspective.

Thus you are not using the profited money but it is a relative term..

How you use your salary to trade in order to make thay profit is the question. Unless you are putting in money from salary properly you would be at loss.

Owning a business could be very volatile, that's why some people like me prefer salary. I am not making enough at all, I need to earn more, but does that mean I am going to go start my business right away? That's too scary. I did attempt it, failed once, now I have another, like a side-gig with my wife and it still doesn't look comfortable to me because even though we are making some money, the return is volatile.

I could make nothing for a week, and then in one day I make 1/3 of my salary. Like last Saturday, I made 33% of my salary in a single day, but it did zero yesterday. So that volatility is scary, even though it does give higher returns overall. I think it's going to get better with time, it's been just few months.

Many don't see salary as the best option because it confined them to earning a limited amount of income under a specific range for long, while if you engaged in doing your own business, you can earn more than you salary could give, but the two both has their advantages and disadvantages, you may never appreciates self profiting if the market or business you run is not moving, you may not earn anything

Salary and profit really are both rewards but the way they flow into your life makes them feel completely different salary is structured safe and predictable it shows up at fixed intervals and keeps the wheels of daily living turning but like you said it’s tied to someone else’s profit and the ceiling is often set by what your employer values your time at. Profit on the other hand is unlimited in theory it doesn’t wait for the calendar it can show up on any given day depending on how smart or bold the moves are it’s not just money coming in it’s also proof of creating value through effort and ideas that’s why people who chase profit often feel like they’re building something rather than just clocking hours.

The reinvestment part is key too salary usually gets eaten up by bills and recurring needs so there’s little left to grow while profit tends to generate more room to reinvest and compound that’s why entrepreneurship has this multiplying effect over time while salaries often just maintain a certain lifestyle. Of course both have their tradeoffs the safe life of a steady job can feel like a cage to some but it also shields people from the constant stress of risk profit chasing takes guts discipline and tolerance for setbacks no guts no glory really sums it up the people willing to push past fear and uncertainty usually discover potential they never would have found in the “safe” path.

Individually, there are interest and drives, times and factors.
At times in life one cannot afford a business so salary or wage becomes the needed to be able to have required capital if there exist interest to own a business considering the type of business also
At times in life some people salary earners don't see need for business even when they have the capital, time and can afford employee(s).

As much as profit sounds sweet, some salary are ten fold better than some profit.
Some salary earners are driven by increasing their salary.
Somehow, some businesses failed because the owners don't know the difference between profit in business and salary in business. Most especially new business do not usually just start making profits and at times old businesses are found under such conditions.

 Salary or profit are usually determined by some factors and also are usually the answer to some situations people find themselves... But then personal vibes and orientaIndividually, there are interest and drives, times and factors.
At times in life one cannot afford a business so salary or wage becomes the needed to be able to have required capital if there exist interest to own a business considering the type of business also
At times in life some people salary earners don't see need for business even when they have the capital, time and can afford employee(s).

As much as profit sounds sweet, some salary are ten fold better than some profit.
Some salary earners are driven by increasing their salary.
Somehow, some businesses failed because the owners don't know the difference between profit in business and salary in business. Most especially new business do not usually just start making profits and at times old businesses are found under such conditions.

 Salary or profit are usually determined by some factors and also are usually the answer to some situations people find themselves... But then personal vibes and orientation to life makes the difference in totality and in the long run of life.
tion to life makes the difference in totality in the long run of life.

If we can implement both, I think it's not wrong. Once we dive in, we can drink milk, meaning we have a stable salary to cover daily and monthly needs. In other cases, if we run a business on the side with good management, I'm sure there will be benefits that will help us in many ways.

But the reality is, it's not that easy. We have to choose one, as you said. There's not enough time due to lack of energy. The body needs rest, and the mind needs rest. If we get sick, the hospital will be the one who will benefit most from our hard work. So, in my opinion, the key is balance.

Security is the illusion of predictability in the form of salary. Profit is volatility, the reality of exposure. Dependence packages one and autonomy packages the other, which is risk. They are both rewards though they reward different things: compliance and initiative

There is a tendency of people to consider one of them as being superior to the others. Profit will go indefinitely, all right, but it also falls indefinitely. Salary is limited, yet also secured (at least until layoffs). It is more to do with how every type of reward traps us into a particular worldview than "profit > salary". Salaried individuals tend to view time as something to exchange, profit makers tend to view time as something to buy. Same 24 hours, radically different ontologies of life

And you are correct, the reinvestment margin counts. Wages get washed down in bills as it is set up this way (housing, healthcare, debt repayments) all programmed to eat wages. Profit enables surplus because it is what appears after expenses. Nevertheless, are we blaming individuals for not reinvesting salaries, or should we ask why wage structures themselves are engineered to keep workers at zero-sum?

I agree, it's very difficult to attain a certain level of financial  freedom with a job compared to when you have a business. The reason why most people settle for that job they have all their life is because they feel like starting up a business it too risky, some are scared to end up losing their money and not being profitable in the long run. Doubts like this is one of the reason why some people cannot be rich

I will just share it again... it seems like a good place & time for that:


Some people are lucky, some find a way... some don't. In the end, logic is simple... not all of us can just sleep & make money, somebody actually has to work. In theory, maybe it could work with robots doing everything for us... But does anyone really think that someone is creating robots to serve the people & world or to grab even more money & power?

And where do you place yourself in this coordinate system of confusion?

I worked in a government job for a long time, then resigned and started freelancing. Therefore, from my personal experience, I can say that both salary and profit, as well as freelancing, have their advantages and disadvantages.

For me, it was a life-changing step when I resigned from my job and started making money through freelancing. I live in a poor country, and my salaries barely cover a few days a month. However, through my freelancing in crypto, I earned a good monthly income and my life improved significantly. Furthermore, I now have personal freedom because I work from home and don't have to commit to any schedule.

If you talk about individual economic growth, of course a slow salary to boost economic growth individually, because the salary has been scheduled for expenses.

But when talking about profits, of course many people are successful from the economic side because of profits despite the annual count, as well as in terms of investment, salary and profit, faster economic growth in terms of profit.

The meaning is that the salary is clear in grades in monthly, but profit is uncertain depending on the business made, it can be produced in a day from estimates, in essence the profit and salary of two different things in terms of income, value and so on.

It's fine if you prioritize profit over salary, but I tell you, it's not as always easy as that. It's good to say you want to invest or engage in business, but you should know that they have their challenges as well.

Many businesses didn't live up to expectations and many salary earners are better than business owners or an investors. Some would even sort the money they are investing through salaries, it all depends on the kind of job, it's not all salaries that is not worth it.

I said this for you not to outrightly write salary off. Fine, profits can be good and easy at times, but the question is, can it be consistent like salaries? My choice on the tow depends on many conditions attached to them.

People who encouraging others with the thinking of that everyone should get into business also need to think of the other and bad side of doing business.

It's not that you'll start it and you're already in profit. It takes a while before someone can say that they have a profitable business. It will need a lot of work from establishing it.

While those who are already content with the salary they have, they have a calculated effort and they've got schedules to follow unlike with making a business you are unsure whether it will be profitable or not with all the effort that you do.

I have both of it and I understand how everyone wants badly to have a business but it's not the same for all of us that someone might be in fortune which will have a good start.

I don't know the government job is of different type, not sure why you quit but there people working with federal government and they are well job for their job with bonuses to avoid anything that is going to compromised workers working under the government. Though, it's not really easy to focus on your job and be doing freelance, you will get exhausted at some point, it's better to focus on one since there is one that pays well instead of taking all of them.

If anyone is doing business and aim for profits, they can make it from there and if they want to work on earning as a salary, then can survive it through. There are some people that are well paid job and have high payment of staffs that you may not get half the payment of those paid in there because they are bigger and have much sellings. When you flipped it the other way round about this, you might also see business that will never settle for any salary.

That can be categorized as both, salary as you work for someone being a freelancer and also, freelancing itself is a business. So, you're nailing two birds with one stone and I agree that there are advantages and disadvantages. Like there is no fixed salary by doing business and freelancing. But you've got more time to yourself, to your family and that's what freelancers like. They earn enough per projects or anything related to their skill and they are doing it while at the comfort of their homes. Freedom plus income, whether it's called salary or profit, you've won in life brother.

You can both earn a salary and generate profits through various investment instruments. If your salary is high and you can meet your basic needs and save extra money, then you can invest. Whether you profit depends on the circumstances and the type of investments you make—in fact, it depends on many things.

You can lose money, and making a profit isn't easy. To make a profit, you need to experience losses many times before and learn the right path and strategies, a long journey.

A couple of years ago, I first saw how much of a difference there was between a worker's salary and that of a boss who'd started his own business. A friend of mine sold tiles out of a small roller shutter in a shopping center, and his salary was small. Literally below the national average.
Meanwhile, when my cousin started a similar business in a neighboring town, he was amazed at how much he was making just a few months after launching the business. Even though the boss, from the beginning of the story, constantly complained about not having enough money, we saw that sales were going very well. And he was constantly at the casino.

If we ask everyone which one they’ll prefer, clearly it would be profits. However, not everyone is given the advantage and opportunity to start a business or investment that would bring out future profits. It requires sufficient funds, reliable knowledge and skills, and not everyone here got it all.

That’s why people have no choice but to stick with their jobs first and earn their monthly salary. This is more on current survival than profitability in the future. But if given the chance and opportunity to start a business or investment, for sure everyone would want to have so they can experience creating active and passive income that would generate them regular profits.

Is like you are asking btw job and business which is far better , imo I will go with business well in job you have a fix amount you are working , does not increase unless you rank up or got promoted or something , and you don’t have to pass through the stress of trying to sustain or manage your business, because that role is meant for entrepreneurs. But when it comes to you being a business owner like a profit earner , your earning ain’t fixed , it’s boils down to many factors , like for instance you owned a shop wear you sells fit (like dresses , shoes , etc.). .So your profit boils down to how many sales you made that day .

When you say that there is no stress in the jobs then not all jobs are like that. Since artificial intelligence is getting popular and integrated in the businesses many of the jobs people are losing because of the AI and this is great stress for those who are working on Jobs.

Business on the other hand get flourished and you are very much less stressed and you mostly get more profits as the business grows. I think if you have capital with you it's best to start a small business and over the passage of time you can develop your business into a respectable level where you will get financial freedom.

If you make so much from working, the difference between profit and salary become blurred.
You can be earning 1m++ as a high ranking execs and you'd make multiple folds of the profit and your reinvestment yield massively.

This comparison is just futile and have no meaning at all. Just because you receive salary doesn't mean you gonna get broke forever.
There's career ladder to climb if you favour working as a way for the higher up to incentivizes workers.

To be fair, I can understand both of those. Because when you have salary, usually your effort is not paid 100%, meaning if you work X amount, you are not earning exactly what you are worth, if you were, then how would the company make a profit out of you?

Normally we can't calculate exactly how much one person makes a company, but a good number would be if you make 100 dollars for a company per day, you should get 80 dollars of it, or at least aim to get that, most are paid under that level because there are others out there who would be willing to accept less, which creates issues for the workers, and have to accept less.

But when you work for yourself, you get 100% of what you deserve, and if you believe you deserve more, than starting a business is better than being a worker, the unfortunate reality is that some realize they aren't deserving more.

not to mention what most of us do not have enough of is money. not all of us have enough money to start our own business with. and once you build your own business, you cant be too relaxed yet because you need money to sustain it while you wait for your business to start earning and for some businesses it takes months even a year before they start earning more than what they have started with

It's paid twelve times in bad countries but it's paid 13 and 14 times in good countries.

Salary is paid by profit earners but when you say that you choose profit over salary any time, believe me, everyone prefers profit but there is a big difference. In order to make a profit, you have to start your own business. It's not easy to start a business. Many people think it is but it's not really because there are so many challenges in front you and one of the worst challenge is to find good workers. It takes lots of time and money to build a successful business, many businesses work on loss for years before they profit and if you aren't rich, it's almost impossible to feed the business with lots of money every month.

What I gather from your statement is that you indirectly want to suggest that doing business can be much better than working for a monthly salary.

Under certain circumstances, this might be understandable, but that doesn't mean everyone can do the same thing with the same mindset.
You are only looking at the profit prospects, but what about risk management in business, where there will definitely be many failures if we are unable to handle it.
And what about the issue of initial capital, because certainly not everyone is ready with the initial capital, which ultimately hinders the business.

It's not that I don't want to do business in this area because I'm still working at the moment, but on the other hand, I realize that when we want to try a new area of business in terms of services, there are many things we need to consider. Of course, this situation is not as easy as one might imagine because there are many factors that need to be taken into account to support something, and when people don't understand the ins and outs of business, in the end, instead of making a profit, we ourselves who may end up with problems because we have no foundation in doing business but try to be more aggressive in our actions just because we want greater profits than we expect.

Salary and profit are two different things, so one cannot be compared with the other. To get a salary, you get a salary from the profit of another person by working on his profit and bringing him profit. But when you want to get a direct profit, you have to do your own work and build a business, which is not easy at all. But if you have the willpower and you think you can and if you have enough financial backup, then of course you can start a business with a risk that will give you several times more profit than your salary at a time. And at the same time, you will get a lot of freedom that you will not get in the case of salary income.

The right comparison should be between working to earn salary and running your own business because if you compare salary to profit, there will be some complications since salary by itself can be profits when you earn more than your expenditure to do the job. Secondly, it is not every business that makes profits at some point so it will be wrong to assume that all businesses are profitable. Nevertheless,  I still prefer running my business and growing with time than working for someone else to earn salary. Working for someone I mean is the conventional white collar job that takes your entire time and pay you to forget your dreams.

Op, you have highlighted the difference between a job and a business in your article. If someone can make a business stand after hundreds of hardships, then his hardships will be worthwhile. A businessman can employ hundreds of employees from the profits earned from the business. But it takes a lot of time and hard work to take that business to a higher level. Many businessmen get frustrated when they do not get success in business.

On the other hand, a salaried employee in a job can limit himself only to his salary. He has to work within a certain limit and cannot spend beyond that limit even if he wants to. However, he limits himself to the amount of money he gets and maintains the balance of his income and expenses accordingly. He has a disciplined and worry-free life.

However, these depend on the wishes of a person. Some want to keep themselves independent by doing business, while others want a disciplined life through a job.

Huh? Are both Salary and Profit comparable to one another?
Let's think the other way around.

Yes, salary might only be given 12 times a year, sometimes 24 (twice a year), but that's considered "STABLE" income. Profits from being an entrepreneur might be earned daily, OR IT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN AT ALL. Don't look at it as some kind of magic where if you tried to be a businessman, you will earn profit that easily. There are people that are meant to be businessmen, and there are people that are meant to be employees, and as long as both are happy then I don't see anything wrong about it. You might get profit, or you might not get some at all. In short, it isn't fixed. It isn't stable, and the risks are higher compared to having a salary.

Well, you can earn even more if you prefer having a profit than having a salary, but the risks are way higher, and there might be a chance where you will spend more money on it, but you will not have any return whatsoever.

Yes, going for profits along with salary is the best possible option at least for me. I can never think about quitting my job just to hunt profits elsewhere. I can instead start making profits while having a fixed salary every month. This way, I get the perks of having a fixed money and also have profits by investing a part of my salary in any profitable venture.

Even if I have loss there, I can still survive with my salary but imagine if we have no salary and are totally depending on the profits, what will we do in case of a loss? Our financial situation will be fully devastated and it will take days or maybe months for us to recover and fulfil our financial needs before starting to make profits again.

This is a job that leads to two different lives because with salaries our house will run smoothly and if we look at it with business then the house will always be beautiful and with good morals. If we try to save something from salaries then it is really right that there will be shortage in our houses which can also spoil our environment. This decision is very right. Those who think that we will have money on this date and it will be quite a lot but in business money comes every day and if we look at it sometimes so much money is made that more money is made in that day than the person doing the job. But some people consider it okay because they do not have the talent in their mind to make it big which is why they do such work.

Both salary and profit has their advantages. But the thing about salary is that it is constant and every workers must be expecting it every month. But as for profit, if the market doesn't want well, you won't be able to make any profit, hopefully if you didn't loss.

But in a situation whereby by an individual is doing perfectly fine in the market and gaining more profit, there is no way you will compare him or her to a salary owner. Because, luckily within a week they can earn what some salary earners earn monthly.

You are just overcomplicating things, what are you trying to say? That profit is massively better than salary, what will this do for you if I may ask? What you don't understand is profit is also on level base.

Someone who trade with a dollar and make two made profit, but what can an extra dollar do? Some salary earners make alot too, I know a man in my town who is based in the US, he is an expert in technology aspect and his job is related to this field too. This man makes $30,000 every month as salary.

I am still a mediocre trader, and I have had some good times in trading where I make good money but I've never make this amount before in a month, I believe that both salary and profit are not very far from each other, they both have their advantages and disadvantages.

I see it from the perspective of someone's desire and it's true as you said that this is about talent because sometimes someone can't do many things to earn money so they only rely on the salary from the work they do, and in my opinion there is nothing wrong with that and it can't be judged, this is the same thing because the goal is the same regardless of the path they choose.

You also forgot to add a very important point. This is the government's influence on business. One official decision can lead a life's work to complete ruin. That's what happened to me. I worked on my brainchild for almost eight years, but at one point, the idiots at the helm of government wanted more foreign land, which led to sanctions that hit me very hard. Ultimately, the business collapsed, as international relations with certain countries were impossible. That's how it happens.

However, this can happen if the company we work for provides opportunities for career advancement. I've experienced companies that simply exploit us, while not giving us the opportunity to advance to a better position. This happens because certain positions are already filled by people with family ties to high-ranking company officials.

However, I don't generalize that all companies are like this, as some companies can provide opportunities for us to develop based on our abilities.

Profit and profit can be analyzed in two different ways, especially the payment of money to an employee in exchange for services after a certain period of a job is called salary. It can be monthly or weekly but daily salary is not paid. But if you analyze in the case of profit, then you must have received it as a return on any investment at any time. An employee receives a salary and if he reinvests a certain part of that salary, then he will definitely get a return on that reinvestment. But in reality, an employee cannot get profit along with his salary, as it may require extra effort.

Salary and profits are relevant differently,salary is important because it offers financial safety,structure,and a foundation for long-term planning.Profit is important because it fuels growth,builds wealth, and sustains both businesses.
Salary is Short-term for safety & survival,Profits is Long-term for wealth & independence.

Salary vs profit is same as job vs business and I can see the comparison, both are important in there own ways. Business gives you security and you can rely on it anytime any day because it comes frequently and salary or job on the other hand doesn't give you the value or usefulness an individual needs because it may be frequent but most times it doesn't last long. A profit earner has the ability to do things according to their desire and yes some days are bad in business but it's nothing compared to having to work your butt out for a whole month before you get your payment and sometimes you won't even get paid until the next month.

Salary and profit are the great factor responsible for financial stability because both works as one but in different field, Interchanging both is a mistake to avoid when it comes to finance related issues. Salary is known as the mother of profit when properly invested, controlled and properly managed in businesses but may not yield that primary aim if not invested well. One may become a salary earner for a long time without getting profit from it because it was not used in business but for another important reason, so in other to generate profit from salary it must be invested wisely.

Exactly and starting up a business is not really an easy thing though it's good for one to be self-employ, that is the profit that they are making from their businesses might be higher than a salary one will be receiving in a month.
But, the ability to navigate through challenges is the key which is not everyone is good at it, that is why people should go for what they know how to do best, although there are some people that learn from their mistakes that is if they love what they are doing, then they will make a determination to build it up and maintain it.

You working there is another person's "investment". Someone who has built a business from the ground up has invested a X amount of money to get it going, and you're part of it. If you're making 60 euros per day, then the person behind the business is certainly earning a lot more from the work you put, and it makes sense. I don't understand why the OP proceeds to compare salary with profit, is there any reason? Salary is a fixed amount you get from 12 to 14 times a year, it's standard and you know that you'll get your money each month, profit on the other hand is the revenue of your investment. Why compare them?

I get the point that mostly profits has more advantage and benefits over salaries in most cases but then it depends on individuality preference. People go into things that's comfortable for them that's why you can find a maximum capacity of people going for jobs and all that to shy away from some huge responsibilities and in the other hand having a business that brings in profits is the best medicine to some person's but both plays a key role to different individuals.

And without to two factors then everything will lead to struggle and this is one of the reason why both of them are actually and they can not be do without but another thing is that I feel like is that you still need money to make profit because were is the money going to come from if not from salary or other ways like loan buy most time you need to have a investment to Make profit and another thing is that it's either ways for people because there people that don't work they are business people and since the goal is to make money what ever anyone choose to do is a good one so far it is bringing money because is not everyone that can go into business.

Yes, but there's a slight paradox between the employee's efforts and their time. The thing is, if someone receives a salary, they're confident about the future, but the bad news is that after work, they don't have the energy or time to find ways to escape it. And salaries are low these days, making it very difficult to find extra money for investing. Everything has to go towards food and bills. If someone has the courage to break this vicious cycle, they can become a good investor or trader. But they need to be free of obligations like family or children.

For one to be living below his/her means and saving continously is a secret weapon, today many salary earners are broke not because of little payment been paid to them but because of overspending and debt.
A wise worker or employee who invests in a business for 20-30 years can be bigger than many business owners who mismanage money.

For me, I break it down into simple things: my salary is paid to me every month, and I set aside 10 to 20% of it to invest in various assets, mostly in Bitcoin. I don't make a profit when I want to, but when I decide the best time has come. For example, I could buy Bitcoin every month for several years, and only make a profit when I start selling it, but that could be a long time later. But that's not so important, the most important thing is the end result.

As a salary earner, you have nothing to worry over company's profits or losses and credit alart is guaranteed at a specific time ;D unless you work in a private company where company profits have direct effect on your salary.

Of course, many people including myself would prefer owning my own business, earn profits and pay salary to my workers but we seem to underrate the heavy price involved in establishing and managing a business to become a successful one.

Salary and profit serve mainly different purpose.

Yes salary is a fixed income earned by an employee or even yourself for service rendered,
Salary is more predictable and employees have less control over salary.

But profit is earning from business or investments, calculated revenue and expenses, profit is more variable, and business owners and investors have more control over profit.
So ultimately, the choice between salary and profit depends on individual priorities and circumstances.

I choose profit because some one doing business and investing well will gain and make profit before the end of the month as for salary earners.

I won't say salaries are less these days. If you can find the right job than salaries can fulfill your necessities and can also help you save something for the future. You should have the right skillset to get a decent paying job. Yes, there are a lot of companies which are underpaying their employees but these companies usually end up hiring freshers or people with no actual skill. Majority of people who really are qualified end up getting a nice paying job where they get stuck for a major portion of their life.

Salary makes us dependent and we kind of forget what it would be to survive without the basic salary. Coming home from work, we would be completely exhausted just thinking about the next day and would hardly have any time to spare on thinking about any other money making opportunities.

Yes profit should be considered the best option, salary tho is consistent and certain, while profit is not, but even as that profit has been known to give larger results where by leading to finacal growth, thereby creating longer lasting money than salary. Salary will be given for your labour, and there will come a time where a man gets weak and will not be able to Labour no more; then the salary stops.
But if you have a business you can build it to an extent where by it will be able to give you consistent profun even at old age.+

Easier said that done, I mean if you don't have a job in the first place, how can you have a salary? Given that you have a job, then it might not be enough for you to sustain they how can you go get profit? It's a hard world mate, it's not that easy to make profit any time of the day. Sure it's best over salary, but you really need to save first some money before you can make such profits. Maybe you can start your own business, or in crypto, be a trader. But again, you will encounter a lot of problems and issues in the beginning that sometimes you think of giving up. So in life, it's very hard to make the correct decision as it will alter everything. Just be consistent, earn enough money thru job and save and then maybe after that you will think about business that will make you passive income.

In the beginning, it will be hard to establish that and that's why costing for employee shouldn't be prioritized. You're starting a business and as an owner of it, you should be the one who's starting it.

But that's what every entrepreneurs wants to be. To have employees so that they will be more productive and also, to help those employees to have a job.

It's a different feeling when you've got people on your back and both are giving and taking each other's help.

The thing about salaries is that they are not just numbers, they are cages with cushions.. There is the aspect of skillset, underpayment in companies and the qualified can get decent employment. But predictable, stable, non-threatening are all other terms used to say decent. The system rewards competence to the extent that it keeps you engaged in the system but seldom to an extent where it provides independence. And the true lack is autonomy, not money

Individuals can talk and talk about salaries, however the root of the problem lies in dependency. A salary is created to ensure that you forget that there is a choice. Not only entrepreneurial options, but even existential ones. What we would find when we were no longer in the rut of exhaustion you are talking about. It is not a side-effect of work to come home tired, but that is the way in which the system makes sure that you will not innovate outside the work system. Is it that salaries have to be sufficient or is it the psychological architecture that we have to learn to sell our prime years to a drip-feed? The majority will justify the trade as being necessary but necessity is created. The "nice paying job" is both prize and prison

Both salary and profit are rewards from your effort or work, salary can be weekly or monthly as the case may be but profit is gotten from your business transaction.

But one thing is clear , their are some people who are so much  interested in setting up a business so that they can
Make profit from their business

Looking at this very  very well, those who concentrate on their business are doing better than some company workers.

It's different to be honest.

If you can manage yourself, of course having your own business is the best way to sustain yourself and earn more while in job is more sustainable since it secures you financially unless you get fired on your job. Both ways are good, don't justify that having your own profits is the best because sometimes it's hard and can drain you really really fast if you're unlucky. Higher the profit, higher the gains, in life sometimes people choose the sustainable one because they have nothing to risk, time is running, and they really need to earn to survive in life so don't blame if not all of us are not in a good shape to manage our own pockets.

You can, that is not an opinion, it is a fact. Salaries are lower these days compared to past when you compare it to purchasing power. For example in the 60's, (depends on the nation you live of course) it was possible to buy a house with 2 year worth salary. Calculate what is your 2 year salary, and tell me if that buys a house or not. This is why it's really not a big deal to say that we are getting paid less right now.

People think that we are getting paid more, but just because the number goes up, doesn't mean that value goes up as well, with your salary you can buy less right now than our fathers did. That is why salary is a lot more important and if you do make a lot of money from your salary, then you are in a unique situation.

There are people who start their own businesses and those who prefer to work for others. It's strange, but some people enjoy their comfort zone, and if they're comfortable with it, I don't see a problem. For a long time, I was a salaried employee, and I confess I miss the predictability it brought. On the other hand, I enjoy the freedom of working from the comfort of my own home, close to my family. I haven't yet achieved "predictable," consistent, and recurring income, but I'm almost there.

Financially savvy people will turn their salary into profit, and profit into financial freedom. :)

Owning your own business and having to pay every employee is no easy feat, as money management is crucial. If you can't manage your finances effectively, things won't go smoothly. I agree that owning your own business is everyone's dream, but there are many aspects to master. I have experience in this field where poor money management led me to quit my business.

There is a saying 'if there is risk then there is love'

To be honest, in my opinion, salary is actually a kind of safety net. You are selling your labor over time, and in return, you get a certain amount of money at the end of the month. Its advantage is predictability, you know how much income you will have, it is easier to budget, and the risk is low. But its limitation is that the upside is closed. No matter how skilled you are, your salary does not grow very quickly, and often does not keep up with inflation.

On the other hand, in business or investment, it is possible to earn income every day, but there is also the possibility of losing money every day. It takes years of hard work, reinvestment, and discipline for an entrepreneur to create turnover. But once a business or investment gains traction, the scale of profit can be many times larger than salary.

Another thing is that salary money usually goes to consumption rent, food, bills. When a large portion of the profit from a business or investment is reinvested, it creates compounded growth.

It all depends on the mindset and there is nothing wrong with that because sometimes there are jobs that pay us a lot so that we don't need to think about anything else other than the responsibilities of the job and all our needs and desires can be fulfilled, that is a good step in my opinion if someone's desire and ability are like that, because not everyone wants and understands doing business to make a profit.

When you are unsure about what you want to do, staying at salary side is better. Because if you are "unsure", that means you are not convinced yet that starting a business is for you.

I have been checking out a way of making money, a new business, but so far I am unsure about it and I am not doing it, wife has a business of her own and that is not doing badly, I hope it does even better so that I would have a chance to test mine out as well, but right now both of our income goes to just keeping that business alive and growing. As someone who has seen it close up, you need to be madly in love with your business for it to succeed, if you dislike it, or be bored about it, then you are not going to get the results you want.

Salary gives stability, but profit has more room for growth if the business or investment goes well. With profit you’re not limited by a fixed amount at the end of the month, and like you said, sometimes you can earn even faster than a salary earner. At the same time, profit also comes with more risk, while salary is more predictable. It really comes down to what someone values more, stability or potential growth.

Still most people would prefer salaries instead of job and maybe that's why we see a lot of employees but a very few entrepreneurs. People always think business as a riskier game where they have to gamble everything they have just to gain future profits which are not even guaranteed. Being an entrepreneur takes more than just efforts and hardwork. You need to have a mentality and money making skills which is what will make you gain profits out if the business orelse you'll end up in heavy debt cycle.

Salaries on the other hand are much reliable and can at least fulfill our basic requirements and make us not wonder here and there for profits. We can always find other ways to make extra money with our current job but with business it might be completely different. We will have to be fully focused on our business which will hardly give us any time to think about anything else.

Your last statement sums it all up, only a few percentage of people actually live well as salary earners but majority fall into debt and just eat like ants.. financial freedom comes when you you have a business that generates profit for you either on a daily, weekly or monthly basis...working for people is a trap, you get to do all the hard work and make all the money for a group of people while you are being paid peanuts

Business is another word for enterprise, so anyone who has the ability and the means to run a business with the expectation of higher profits is worthy of doing so. Because large profits can certainly have extraordinary effects on those who run it, such as being able to meet their living expenses and also afford what the business owner desires. However, if we reflect on opportunities and the level of consistency in running it, I believe it won't always be the same for everyone. Sometimes someone has the opportunity to do it but lacks the ability to do it. So, there must always be a balance between the two for the business to continue running smoothly in the long term.

If profit = total revenue - total cost, all employees makes profit, if what was spent working everyday is less than the total amount paid weekly, bi-weekly, monthly or annually.

That is how life nowadays. Having one job isn't enough to sustain even for a single person and that's because of the high prices of commodities. I think each country is dealing with so high inflation that even the regular income earners cannot even live a simple life anymore when they don't work 2 or more jobs.

It's not that with businessmen. They are also struggling from the beginning and I know businessmen that even now despite the profit generation of their businesses, they also have debts. But what's good to them is those debts are the good ones. It means about their expansion and having more of their products and inventory to generate more money.

The method can be adjusted, and if you can set aside some of your salary to increase your investment capital, it's much better as long as you have a plan for managing it. Most people take accumulated profits to reinvest, and this is done using a profit margin, which is taken from a predetermined percentage. The problem is, if your salary is used to pay bills or accumulate for other needs, making it impossible to increase your investment capital, then in such situations, we must find another solution. The way to do this is by using profits to reinvest, as some people do to implement a consistent and measurable investment concept.

What you say is true, because I'm currently experiencing the same thing. I currently have a job that can be considered consistent, but even so, I'm still applying for available jobs. This proves that having one job is sometimes not enough to meet your needs. The quote I remember is, "If we want to buy something without considering the price, then we must work without considering the time." So, hard work is a must.

But even if we want to have two jobs, we have to assess ourselves to see if we'll be able to handle both well, so don't forget to consider that as well.

I really understand your point, but running a business together with a job which pays you a salary is not that hard, because many people find themselves in this kind of situation for many reasons. The major driver is often financial, which is capital to start up a business. The money you get from a regular job might not be enough for you to cover all the expenses, especially when it comes to unexpected costs. When you start up a side business, it can help you with an additional income stream; it can help to pay some bills; it is a way to diversify income and also reduce reliance on a single source.

Having a side business comes with several benefits to this approach. Firstly, it offers financial security, because you can rely on one source, because if one income locks up, the other can provide support. Secondly, it can help you for personal growth and skill development. Thirdly,running a side business can also provide a sense of fulfilment; building something from scratch can be rewarding and can also offer a sense of control that a regular job may not provide.

I will go for profit. Daily turn over is the best because your profit grows daily. At the end of the day, you will find out that those who earn salaries buys from you who do small business. Literally salary earners are working for the business man or woman who sells around. Do you wonder why most salary earners go broke before the end of the month? It is because they buy things for credit and at the end of the month they pay back,meaning the business owners keep making good profit while the salary earners go broke.

Salaries and profits should be an attractive and sustainable and very good value in the long run, it's just that we need to pay attention to how financial calculations must be very thorough, especially before investing we need good financial management, because we not only talk about profits in life, but safety and preparation become important points, investment is something that must be done when the needs and emergency funds are completed.

Most salaries are used for financing needs in a few months usually, so the gap in the salary to be invested is also definitely small, because emergency funds must also increase as your life needs increase, while the investment profits can be played again to be rolled out continuously, but the heaviest points here are investments not always profitable, there are risks that must be talked about and adjusted.

Yes, it all depends on each individual's mindset and skills in deciding what will be best for them and achieving financial freedom. Because not everyone can succeed in business, being an employee or pursuing a career to increase income will be a choice, and vice versa.

But if you have creativity, the best advice is to become an entrepreneur rather than an employee, because by being in charge, you indirectly create jobs for others. If you can cook start a culinary business, trade become a skilled trader, and so on. Because if you still rely on the government to provide jobs, you will find it difficult to create wealth for the future. Pursue business/freelance rather than work as an employee if you have the skills and discipline.

I feel the same way, for an average person job is better option than business,. Specially from responsibility point of view. An Average man's usually have the  limited vision and he feel comfortable with fixed   income or incentives or less  work.whereas in the business there is  chance of getting higher profit margins .But it need higher  responsibility and higher risk taking ability and broader vision. So according to me  its totally depends upon the mindset or aptitude of particular person and his comfort zone.

Salary and profit are both rewards earned through work but their nature and impact are different. Salary is the income that we earn within a fixed time frame. It depends on how long we have worked and our position in the organization. On the other hand, the profit that we get through an initiative, business or investment can be unlimited based on the possibility, time and amount. As you said, salary is received several times a year but profit can be earned at any time, but in this case, proper planning is required. I think those who are not comfortable taking risks prefer stable income because they get a sense of security and reliability. But those who really want to use their financial freedom and potential are the ones who give importance to the profit aspect. However, to be successful here, you need to put in continuous effort, time and planning.

If you are in a job where you can grow and be better and earn more, then there are no issues. But I have maxed out on my job, there is no way I can work better and do more and become something else, like a manager or boss or whatever. So that means I am at my max, and when you are like that, applying for other jobs makes no sense neither, because it would be just same job but somewhere else, it snot going to eb a better job.

When you have that, the smart thing to do would be trying to figure out a way to make more income some way where you do not work. That way, your money works for you, while you also work for someone else and make money. Bitcoin is exactly that for me, I put money in bitcoin, and I hope it keeps going up.

Hard work is a must but we live in an era where new age millionaires work smart. There's nothing wrong in working .multiple jobs especially if you are the type that doesnt make profit from an investment or a business. Like you said, it's advisable to access yourself before having two jobs, some people follow the need for money and end up breaking down because the jobs gets too much for them. It's better to focus on one and grow form there

Both salary and profit are the rewards of hard work. As long as you work hard to earn salary, you will get salary. But in the case of profit, it is completely different, you have to work hard and wait for the business to be established with risk in the beginning. When you are established in business, then you do not have to work much. Even the period of profit may be unlimited as you said, but salary is limited. That is, as long as you work, you will continue to get salary at a fixed time.

There are advantages and some disadvantages in both cases. Although it is said that to earn salary, only talent and skill are required, no capital is required. But there are still many countries where even to get a job, capital is required, skill is required and you need the recommendation of an influential person.

From such a position, I think it is better to do business with risk, although in the beginning it requires patience, hard work and taking risks, but with time you will definitely succeed and you will move towards living an independent life. For me, work is just slavery and choosing to live a subordinate life.

OP what is the aim of this thread. Are you trying to compare salary and profit, because it's not clear to me.salary is something that people should not reply on because replying on salary means only one thing such a person will definitely struggle because with the current economic situation facing the globe people should look beyond salary.


People should look at business opportunities so that, they can invest into because profit can only be gotten when there is an investment. Profit should be prioritized above salary because salary is a prison that traps people for life profits give an individual freedom to do what ever that he or she wants.

Op missed a thing, the risk factor. A salary is fixed and the employee will get that fixed amount along with some bonus but profit isn't something guaranteed, one need to keep the company profitable to cover the operational cost and salary and all other expense and then whatever left will be considered as profit. There are tons of business running with not much profit at all and if we ask that owner they will be okay with switching a place for salary over the profit.

Nothing is easier, everything needs the deserving effort to achieve.

Becoming a specialist in one field of work can sometimes allow you to earn a higher income, which might be enough to cover your monthly expenses. It's acceptable to have a side job to supplement your income, as long as it doesn't interfere with your main job. The key lies in time management, but it's important to remember that the body also needs rest. In reality, health is often neglected by those who work too hard just to improve their financial situation.

Investing offers an open opportunity for anyone who wants to achieve financial freedom, people who work only hard are often beaten by those who work smart. Therefore, everyone should also have good financial management so they can save and invest for long term goals.

Salary vs profit,I don't think can be classified together.because salary is the wages been paid to the employee by the employer at the month end,for work well done.while profit comes out from a business angle,of surplus earnings that comes out from a business.after deducting your expenses from the revenue been made.

I agree with this, but there must be a price to pay for anything as a form of feedback. When we try to force ourselves to do several jobs at once (main job and side jobs), the price we pay is time and, of course, our health, which can become vulnerable.

However, even though it is a risk, for some people who are the backbone of their families, they will do it because, after all, this can be better for some people than not being able to earn money for their daily needs.
Many people find themselves in such situations, but every decision has its pros and cons. Therefore, we must be prepared to accept all forms of risk from the decisions we made from the start, as these risks are an inherent part of the process when choosing or deciding on such matters.