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Title: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Prosofina_G on September 25, 2025, 08:39:15 PM
Before going down to outline what human rights are I think we should critically look what human rights is.
To me human rights can be seen as a freedom or a fundamental positive right enshrined in the rules of law given to human to operate on as part of life.

THIS RIGHTS INCLUDES
1. RIGHT TO LIFE
2. FREEDOM OF SPEECH
3. FREEDOM OF EDUCATION
4. PRIVACY
5. RIGHT TO WORK

Just to name but a few,  in my own emphasize on number 1 right to life, I really don't think if majority of people in this country have right to their lifes, because the way and manners they are slutering people in this country shows that people don't actually have right to their lifes.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH: This is another lies about people having freedom of speech.
In as much as I am  concerned this country has no freedom of speech to their citizenship, before you have freedom of speech in this country you might have known your way or else you will be a died man.
Therefore there is no freedom of speech.

FREEDOM OF EDUCATION: this is the worst I have ever seen in this country,  the educational system is died and gone this is where students pay just to pass their course.
And the have turned it into the highest bidder got it all.

RIGHT TO WORK: our system is not working at all we have multinational companies how much of our people are working in those areas non?
The children of the common men are largushing in different countries hustling just to make life better for them self, while their country are selling off their crude and monitizing their company to strangers.

With all this I think I am convinced that human has no rights anywhere whatsoever no matter how it has been enshrined in the constitution is non and void .


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Joy- maker on September 25, 2025, 09:04:13 PM
Well let me also give my own definition of fundamental human rights, fundamental human rights are Those basic rights and freedom we humans are entitled to irrespective of our nationality, colour, language, sex, religion, and other status which I didn't include that is suppose to be included. And  in some countries this fundamental human rights are been given to their citizens, while in some countries it is vice versa. My Country Nigeria for instance we the citizens are been denied all this fundamental human rights and freedom, especially right to life and freedom of speech. We don't longer have the right to life humans beings are been slaughtered like animals in my country Nigeria and the government is doing nothing about it, talk more of freedom of speech, in my country Nigeria you dare not talk anyhow, because if you do your owe is finished.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Jegileman on September 25, 2025, 09:48:00 PM
Well let me also give my own definition of fundamental human rights, fundamental human rights are Those basic rights and freedom we humans are entitled to irrespective of our nationality, colour, language, sex, religion, and other status which I didn't include that is suppose to be included. And  in some countries this fundamental human rights are been given to their citizens, while in some countries it is vice versa. My Country for instance we the citizens are been denied all this fundamental human rights and freedom, especially right to life and freedom of speech. We don't longer have the right to life humans beings are been slottered like animals in my country and the government is doing nothing about it, talk more of freedom of speech, in my country you dare not talk anyhow, because if you do your owe is finished.

No any country does the citizens gets to enjoy all the fundamental human rights even if it is stated in the law of the country. When you have access to some, your access to some are limited and you can’t just misuse or overuse it. I think all these are kept so in order for the full power and authority to remain with the government.

What is happening in Nigeria is banditry and cannot be equated fully to fundamental human rights. Insecurity is a very serious issue that when a country is bound to it is always used for the benefit of the government. I still remember one of the past leaders of Nigeria that said if any insecurity situation lasts for more than 24hours then the government has a hand in it and that’s what we’re facing here now.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: passwordnow on September 25, 2025, 09:59:11 PM
If there are no human rights, you won't be able to post in the forum anyway because everything will be censored. So, that could be at least give some hope that there's still some human rights that are being followed. But I agree that not all of these privileges are being passed on to us, we are not enjoying all of the benefits of human rights because of how political colors have set the boundary for all of us and on how our leaders work for their people. I think that we're on a better situation compared to the people that have been isolated like North Korea or have been judged with the prejudice of being a bad country and having a bad society.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Joy_learns_crypto on September 25, 2025, 10:13:36 PM
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because the way and manners they are slutering people in this country shows that people don't actually have right to their lifes.
What’s the name of the country and who is doing the slaughtering of the people. You have the right to live but not the right to control another persons actions because the law is supposed to judge everyone fairly and if the law is working in your country anyone doing that should be jailed.

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FREEDOM OF SPEECH: This is another lies about people having freedom of speech.
In as much as I am  concerned this country has no freedom of speech to their citizenship, before you have freedom of speech in this country you might have known your way or else you will be a died man.
Therefore there is no freedom of speech.
Death is not the only scare against freedom of speech, you can get canceled, lose your jobs and relationship because of what you say and even the government are using people to set example to others about the thing they say.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: programmer3666 on September 25, 2025, 11:39:00 PM
well, on paper we all have human rights but in reality!!! many of those rights are not respected at all. the right to life is just meaningless when insecurity and violence take people’s lives almost every day ant the thing is that freedom of speech exists only for those who can speak safely!! while ordinary citizens risk harassment if they talk about the wrong things going on in society. education and work opportunities are supposed to be basic rights too but like you pointed out!, the system is just too broken students pay to pass and many graduates still end up unemployed and at the end of the day only few enjoy the real benefits.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: BADecker on September 26, 2025, 01:58:11 AM
The people themselves are not acknowledging their rights. They don't hold the courts to the major thing... "show us the harm or damage we did, and prove that we are the ones who did it." Rather, the people get attorneys, thereby placing themselves under the authority of the courts.

And the big thing that people don't do is to form Private Membership Associations, thereby removing themselves from 99+% of government regulation.

8)


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: caroasi on September 26, 2025, 10:37:01 AM
I'm very happy you brought up this topic, and based on your list and brazen rudeness of assuming the USA is where most people live if they are on the internet, I'm supposing you live in the USA. The world has become a lot more authoritarian in the past few decades. Costa Rica has been losing freedoms. Singapore has been losing freedoms. Hong Kong has been losing freedoms. The USA has finally found a landing under Trump because of his supreme court picks, not so much him who doesn't seem to care much about that. Few people are gaining freedoms anywhere in our world right now. The ruling elites also started to imprison their political opponents in what were first world countries such as France. The USA managed to reject the concept of imprisoning political opponents to their great credit.

The USA remains the most free country in the world overall in my personal opinion, but the concept of constitutional amendments has not been used to protect most of the missing rights. Rather than building on freedoms as was done early on, it seems like the focus was on finding ways to ignore human rights.

Yes, freedom of speech and weapon rights are gateway rights that lead to other rights, which are important to our overall success. But, even these rights were not respected from the beginning upon their amendment because of the legal concept of the politician's mantra being 1) line your pockets 2) reward your friends 3) punish your enemies. So, we are left not only with unprotected fundamental human rights as expressed in constitutions across the world, but also additional unprotected rights you just don't hear about by anyone in today's world:

"1. The freedom (right) of association. Most constitutions do not assure people the right to join any person or organization they wish, and therefore law can punish or disallow membership to any specific organization of people of the government's choosing.

2. The right to possess and use property. The USA constitution text "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." can and is interpreted to mean any piece of property can be taken for any reason as long as there is a "due process". The number of banned items is probably over 1,000 in the USA plus classes of items that add infinite numbers of items. Furthermore, just owning a piece of property doesn't necessarily mean you can also use it.

3. The freedom (right) to exchange money. It is consumers, we the people, who are responsible for regulation of business through ethical shopping decisions. It is not the responsibility of the government to treat them selves as the elite ruling deciders of who is and isn't best qualified to do their job properly. Ethical shopping is not just a fantasy, it is required in today's global economy for effect of law, as shown by jurisdiction shopping of large corporations. (ref. jurisdiction shopping)"
(from 11 Unprotected Rights We All Have)

This is why I started the idea of the Cooperative Republic, because the governments we have don't adequately protect our rights. If you follow my signature reference below you can learn some more about that idea as the Caroasi publication is there which suggests an alternative bill of rights that is much more comprehensive and leaves much less to be ignored by reinterpretation of language that was plain but has to be made even more plain.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Accardo on September 26, 2025, 11:54:48 AM
In a world where people are getting arrested for sharing information on social networks, no. Free speech is now a thing of the past, chaos are all over Europe, young people getting arrested for saying things or reacting to a certain post online. What more in the real world, people are harassed in the streets by immigrants, and the government isn't doing much about it, more than 116,000 phones were stolen last year in london. Shouldn't there be a right to ownership? Things are no longer normal as usual. Human rights are not certainly available these days, even Trump's X account was taken down in 2021 for causing violence online ;D


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: o48o on September 27, 2025, 08:03:34 AM
Before going down to outline what human rights are I think we should critically look what human rights is.
To me human rights can be seen as a freedom or a fundamental positive right enshrined in the rules of law given to human to operate on as part of life.

THIS RIGHTS INCLUDES
1. RIGHT TO LIFE
2. FREEDOM OF SPEECH
3. FREEDOM OF EDUCATION
4. PRIVACY
5. RIGHT TO WORK
I guess that depends where you live.

These are ideals to reach for, but because every ideal can have paradoxes they can't be any absolute rules without exceptions.

1: I have this and so does every born human in my country
2: I definitely have freedom of speech, but that comes with some contradictions. Like you can't use your speech to manipulate people using violence against someone else.
3: I have free, and mandatory education
4: GDPR exists here to assure confidentiality and privacy, but people seem to confuse privacy as some kind of right to use it to evade regulations.
5: Technically i have it, however this is more like supply and demand issue where supply decreasing more and and ways to do it get more niche.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: caroasi on September 27, 2025, 11:36:49 AM
Before going down to outline what human rights are I think we should critically look what human rights is.
To me human rights can be seen as a freedom or a fundamental positive right enshrined in the rules of law given to human to operate on as part of life.

THIS RIGHTS INCLUDES
1. RIGHT TO LIFE
2. FREEDOM OF SPEECH
3. FREEDOM OF EDUCATION
4. PRIVACY
5. RIGHT TO WORK
I guess that depends where you live.

These are ideals to reach for, but because every ideal can have paradoxes they can't be any absolute rules without exceptions.

1: I have this and so does every born human in my country
2: I definitely have freedom of speech, but that comes with some contradictions. Like you can't use your speech to manipulate people using violence against someone else.
3: I have free, and mandatory education
4: GDPR exists here to assure confidentiality and privacy, but people seem to confuse privacy as some kind of right to use it to evade regulations.
5: Technically i have it, however this is more like supply and demand issue where supply decreasing more and and ways to do it get more niche.

Your idea of absolutes is quite questionable There can be absolute rules without exceptions. The good part of that is the simplicity, while the bad part is that the "greater good" exceptions are sacrificed. And to some people, a greater good attempt is two wrongs that have attempted and failed to make one right. Or put another way, a wrong is never a right according to some philosophies. One could say instead that there are absolutes and there are weak points of freedoms as fully respected, but they should remain intact for the sake of simple living as one cannot memorize tens of thousands of exceptions, now can they? And can you expect someone to follow a law they don't know exists? No, therefore you don't get infinite exceptions before your system is clearly unfair. So, how many exceptions do you have?

The problem with the exceptions you have is unless you outline what those exceptions are, that is effectively saying the same thing as having zero freedoms of any kind. For example, I could say you have the freedom to do anything you want, with the one exception that it is EXACTLY the same thing I want. Wow, that one exception actually doesn't leave me with substantial freedom.

So while you're satisfied with your freedoms, there are probably people out there who would consider what you have in your location insufferable amounts of tyranny.,


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: o48o on September 28, 2025, 03:28:32 PM
Your idea of absolutes is quite questionable There can be absolute rules without exceptions. The good part of that is the simplicity, while the bad part is that the "greater good" exceptions are sacrificed. And to some people, a greater good attempt is two wrongs that have attempted and failed to make one right. Or put another way, a wrong is never a right according to some philosophies. One could say instead that there are absolutes and there are weak points of freedoms as fully respected, but they should remain intact for the sake of simple living as one cannot memorize tens of thousands of exceptions, now can they? And can you expect someone to follow a law they don't know exists? No, therefore you don't get infinite exceptions before your system is clearly unfair. So, how many exceptions do you have?

The problem with the exceptions you have is unless you outline what those exceptions are, that is effectively saying the same thing as having zero freedoms of any kind. For example, I could say you have the freedom to do anything you want, with the one exception that it is EXACTLY the same thing I want. Wow, that one exception actually doesn't leave me with substantial freedom.

So while you're satisfied with your freedoms, there are probably people out there who would consider what you have in your location insufferable amounts of tyranny.,
Obviously there are people who would consider anything tyranny. That's free speech and they are allowed to their opinion. Ironically that is one of those examples where you can't please everyone and that having absolute rules is just matter of opinions, values and interpreted definitions of those rules. That's why judges and courts for example are needed. Absolutes exist only in mathematics.

Also, about that tyranny... Especially people in the US don't seem to understand how much their own freedom they are restricting by pushing their own idea of freedom.
This seems somehow tying into the communism panic, where everything else, but exploiting people freely is communism and unamerican.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Prosofina_G on September 28, 2025, 04:54:04 PM
The people themselves are not acknowledging their rights. They don't hold the courts to the major thing... "show us the harm or damage we did, and prove that we are the ones who did it." Rather, the people get attorneys, thereby placing themselves under the authority of the courts.

And the big thing that people don't do is to form Private Membership Associations, thereby removing themselves from 99+% of government regulation.

8)

Your right sir, or ma'am actually the people doesn't hold on to their rights,  but come to think about it can the people hold to their rights when the courts of law who are meant to protect the citizens are being hijack by the politicians.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Ricardo11 on September 28, 2025, 04:56:19 PM
Before going down to outline what human rights are I think we should critically look what human rights is.
To me human rights can be seen as a freedom or a fundamental positive right enshrined in the rules of law given to human to operate on as part of life.

THIS RIGHTS INCLUDES
1. RIGHT TO LIFE
2. FREEDOM OF SPEECH
3. FREEDOM OF EDUCATION
4. PRIVACY
5. RIGHT TO WORK

Just to name but a few,  in my own emphasize on number 1 right to life, I really don't think if majority of people in this country have right to their lifes, because the way and manners they are slutering people in this country shows that people don't actually have right to their lifes.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH: This is another lies about people having freedom of speech.
In as much as I am  concerned this country has no freedom of speech to their citizenship, before you have freedom of speech in this country you might have known your way or else you will be a died man.
Therefore there is no freedom of speech.

FREEDOM OF EDUCATION: this is the worst I have ever seen in this country,  the educational system is died and gone this is where students pay just to pass their course.
And the have turned it into the highest bidder got it all.

RIGHT TO WORK: our system is not working at all we have multinational companies how much of our people are working in those areas non?
The children of the common men are largushing in different countries hustling just to make life better for them self, while their country are selling off their crude and monitizing their company to strangers.

With all this I think I am convinced that human has no rights anywhere whatsoever no matter how it has been enshrined in the constitution is non and void .

Legally, human rights are defined as the birthright of each of us. We all have the right to life, freedom of speech, the right to education and the right to work. However, in reality, in many countries, people do not get these rights. Due to political, social or administrative obstacles, although freedom of life is on paper, in reality, many people cannot experience it.
There are many countries where freedom of education and freedom of work are limited. The education system is also not very effective, not only leading students to achieve passing marks, but in the workplace, they are discriminated against and limited opportunities do not allow them to enjoy their rights.
Human rights are ensured depending on the social environment and implementation, human rights are not guaranteed only by the existence of a constitution or law.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: _Miracle on September 29, 2025, 01:20:27 AM
No matter what the stated "rights" are: None are free until all are.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLzUhjf7XQU   <---Finlands president addressing the United Nations
I would link my own presidents speech but it is quite embarrassing.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: yixichloro2xx on September 29, 2025, 07:12:50 AM
Because rights are supposed to protect people, it’s painful when they only exist on paper but not in reality. From what you pointed out, it’s clear that many of these so called rights don’t really work the way they should. For instance, how can we say people have the right to life when insecurity is so bad that lives are being taken every day? Or talk about freedom of speech when speaking your mind could even put you in danger.

The same goes for education and work. Schools are supposed to be places where students earn their grades through hard work, yet corruption makes it more about money than learning. Jobs too are often given based on connections, while ordinary citizens are left struggling, even though multinational companies are making money from the country’s resources.......All of this shows that rights can’t just be written in the constitution, they have to be enforced and protected. Otherwise, they’re just empty words, and people will keep feeling like they don’t actually have any rights at all.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Ishicryptic on September 29, 2025, 09:52:30 AM
I think that it depends on the country, from what I heard people in America, and many European countries enjoy human rights, the government of these countries respect the dignity and rights of their citizens. But the same cannot be said about most developing countries, citizens in these countries are denied their human rights because they don't have a voice. Their justice systems favors the rich and influential people, they can get away with crimes and abuses, the system shields them from prosecution. The poor are treated like they are nothing, their rights are taken away from them and there is nothing they can do about it. Most of these countries that don't respect their citizens human rights are mostly poor and backward, they don't like the poor to have a voice to speak out against them.








Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: caroasi on September 29, 2025, 11:39:25 AM
Your idea of absolutes is quite questionable There can be absolute rules without exceptions. The good part of that is the simplicity, while the bad part is that the "greater good" exceptions are sacrificed. And to some people, a greater good attempt is two wrongs that have attempted and failed to make one right. Or put another way, a wrong is never a right according to some philosophies. One could say instead that there are absolutes and there are weak points of freedoms as fully respected, but they should remain intact for the sake of simple living as one cannot memorize tens of thousands of exceptions, now can they? And can you expect someone to follow a law they don't know exists? No, therefore you don't get infinite exceptions before your system is clearly unfair. So, how many exceptions do you have?

The problem with the exceptions you have is unless you outline what those exceptions are, that is effectively saying the same thing as having zero freedoms of any kind. For example, I could say you have the freedom to do anything you want, with the one exception that it is EXACTLY the same thing I want. Wow, that one exception actually doesn't leave me with substantial freedom.

So while you're satisfied with your freedoms, there are probably people out there who would consider what you have in your location insufferable amounts of tyranny.,
Obviously there are people who would consider anything tyranny. That's free speech and they are allowed to their opinion. Ironically that is one of those examples where you can't please everyone and that having absolute rules is just matter of opinions, values and interpreted definitions of those rules. That's why judges and courts for example are needed. Absolutes exist only in mathematics.

Also, about that tyranny... Especially people in the US don't seem to understand how much their own freedom they are restricting by pushing their own idea of freedom.
This seems somehow tying into the communism panic, where everything else, but exploiting people freely is communism and unamerican.
How many exceptions do you have for the basic human rights? It seems that you're saying whether someone is living under tyranny is a matter of personal opinion.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Fiatless on September 29, 2025, 12:01:30 PM
I think that it depends on the country, from what I heard people in America, and many European countries enjoy human rights, the government of these countries respect the dignity and rights of their citizens. But the same cannot be said about most developing countries, citizens in these countries are denied their human rights because they don't have a voice. Their justice systems favors the rich and influential people, they can get away with crimes and abuses, the system shields them from prosecution. The poor are treated like they are nothing, their rights are taken away from them and there is nothing they can do about it. Most of these countries that don't respect their citizens human rights are mostly poor and backward, they don't like the poor to have a voice to speak out against them.
You are not wrong. Most countries with reports of violations of human rights are underdeveloped or developing. But people from developed societies also face human rights issues; however, in less severe measure. Freedom of speech, association and right to life might be infringed, but others might be limited. There are also rich countries with a high rate of human rights violations, and a typical example is Saudi Arabia. The killing of Jamāl Aḥmad Khāshqujī by agents of the Saudi government is fresh in my memory.      


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Mhizlove on September 29, 2025, 12:21:44 PM
We all know that human rights are meant to ensure the freedom of the citizen's self worth and integrity. But if you look into reality many of these rights are not fully enjoyed because people know they have right to speech or freedom to speech yet still they can't speak out. Education is said to be one of these right but poverty and lack of proper facilities keep many children from going to school. Justice and security are promised yet the corruption, violence and inequality continue to rob people of peace.

The rights only exist in paper and not practiced, as making them a reality in daily life is still a struggle to the citizens or individuals. Real advantages of human rights will only be achieved when every individual can only feel them.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: AmaGold70 on September 29, 2025, 05:20:55 PM
Before going down to outline what human rights are I think we should critically look what human rights is.
To me human rights can be seen as a freedom or a fundamental positive right enshrined in the rules of law given to human to operate on as part of life.

THIS RIGHTS INCLUDES
1. RIGHT TO LIFE
2. FREEDOM OF SPEECH
3. FREEDOM OF EDUCATION
4. PRIVACY
5. RIGHT TO WORK

Just to name but a few,  in my own emphasize on number 1 right to life, I really don't think if majority of people in this country have right to their lifes, because the way and manners they are slutering people in this country shows that people don't actually have right to their lifes.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH: This is another lies about people having freedom of speech.
In as much as I am  concerned this country has no freedom of speech to their citizenship, before you have freedom of speech in this country you might have known your way or else you will be a died man.
Therefore there is no freedom of speech.

FREEDOM OF EDUCATION: this is the worst I have ever seen in this country,  the educational system is died and gone this is where students pay just to pass their course.
And the have turned it into the highest bidder got it all.

RIGHT TO WORK: our system is not working at all we have multinational companies how much of our people are working in those areas non?
The children of the common men are largushing in different countries hustling just to make life better for them self, while their country are selling off their crude and monitizing their company to strangers.

With all this I think I am convinced that human has no rights anywhere whatsoever no matter how it has been enshrined in the constitution is non and void .

Our human rights are only listed on paper and in reality we are living without human rights, in paper we have the freedom of speech but in reality you dare not speak against the high and mighty,  they say we have the right to free education but in reality some students drop out of school because they can't afford to pay their fees, they say we have right to life but in reality the high and mighty sponsor unknown gun men to take the lives of citizens, they say we have the right to privacy but they are in charge of our money in our bank account and even monitor every transaction you make daily, right to work? But there's no job anywhere for the graduates. The only free thing I know is the air that we breathe.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: o48o on September 29, 2025, 05:53:27 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLzUhjf7XQU   <---Finlands president addressing the United Nations
I would link my own presidents speech but it is quite embarrassing.
Even though i didn't vote for that guy for being opportunistic right winger, and he wasn't the best choice; next to Trump he seems like an intellectual.

Your idea of absolutes is quite questionable There can be absolute rules without exceptions.
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Obviously there are people who would consider anything tyranny. That's free speech and they are allowed to their opinion. Ironically that is one of those examples where you can't please everyone and that having absolute rules is just matter of opinions, values and interpreted definitions of those rules. That's why judges and courts for example are needed. Absolutes exist only in mathematics.

Also, about that tyranny... Especially people in the US don't seem to understand how much their own freedom they are restricting by pushing their own idea of freedom.
This seems somehow tying into the communism panic, where everything else, but exploiting people freely is communism and unamerican.
1: How many exceptions do you have for the basic human rights?

2: It seems that you're saying whether someone is living under tyranny is a matter of personal opinion.
1: You have to be more specific or elaborate on that, because i don't have a clue how you got there.
2: Because it literally is matter of perspective. Are people in USA now living under tyranny? Tyranny is a loaded word that means someone unfairly controlling how you are able to live. So with that, i definitely see USA under tyranny.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: BADecker on September 29, 2025, 08:56:23 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLzUhjf7XQU   <---Finlands president addressing the United Nations
I would link my own presidents speech but it is quite embarrassing.
Even though i didn't vote for that guy for being opportunistic right winger, and he wasn't the best choice; next to Trump he seems like an intellectual.

Your idea of absolutes is quite questionable There can be absolute rules without exceptions.
-cut-
Obviously there are people who would consider anything tyranny. That's free speech and they are allowed to their opinion. Ironically that is one of those examples where you can't please everyone and that having absolute rules is just matter of opinions, values and interpreted definitions of those rules. That's why judges and courts for example are needed. Absolutes exist only in mathematics.

Also, about that tyranny... Especially people in the US don't seem to understand how much their own freedom they are restricting by pushing their own idea of freedom.
This seems somehow tying into the communism panic, where everything else, but exploiting people freely is communism and unamerican.
1: How many exceptions do you have for the basic human rights?

2: It seems that you're saying whether someone is living under tyranny is a matter of personal opinion.
1: You have to be more specific or elaborate on that, because i don't have a clue how you got there.
2: Because it literally is matter of perspective. Are people in USA now living under tyranny? Tyranny is a loaded word that means someone unfairly controlling how you are able to live. So with that, i definitely see USA under tyranny.

But the tyranny is their own ignorance. With proper usage of Private Membership Associations, and knowledge of the difference between 'person' and 'man/woman', people could easily change things in their self-imposed tyranny.

8)


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: OgNasty on September 29, 2025, 09:05:30 PM
I think that most people are too tired to enjoy their human rights after working a full schedule and trying to keep their lives together.  Joe Rogan calls this the quiet desperation that most men live in.  Bitcoin as a savings tool can be a means to break free of this cycle and actually enjoy life, but many feel it is too risky.  I'm not sure what the solution is, but I do like the saying, 'fix the money, fix the world' and think it is something that everyone should be focused on. 


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Stablexcoin on September 29, 2025, 09:20:05 PM
What you explained are separate things, fundamental human right is different from human right.

Human rights are natural rights and principle for all people despite the country or religion. Fundamental human rights are constitutionally amended for each country. They are both related, and it is good that every human is able to receive all of them. What is affecting human right is crime and corruption.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: _Miracle on September 30, 2025, 11:07:31 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLzUhjf7XQU   <---Finlands president addressing the United Nations
I would link my own presidents speech but it is quite embarrassing.
Even though i didn't vote for that guy for being opportunistic right winger, and he wasn't the best choice; next to Trump he seems like an intellectual.

Your idea of absolutes is quite questionable There can be absolute rules without exceptions.
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Obviously there are people who would consider anything tyranny. That's free speech and they are allowed to their opinion. Ironically that is one of those examples where you can't please everyone and that having absolute rules is just matter of opinions, values and interpreted definitions of those rules. That's why judges and courts for example are needed. Absolutes exist only in mathematics.

Also, about that tyranny... Especially people in the US don't seem to understand how much their own freedom they are restricting by pushing their own idea of freedom.
This seems somehow tying into the communism panic, where everything else, but exploiting people freely is communism and unamerican.
1: How many exceptions do you have for the basic human rights?

2: It seems that you're saying whether someone is living under tyranny is a matter of personal opinion.
1: You have to be more specific or elaborate on that, because i don't have a clue how you got there.
2: Because it literally is matter of perspective. Are people in USA now living under tyranny? Tyranny is a loaded word that means someone unfairly controlling how you are able to live. So with that, i definitely see USA under tyranny.

There were many good speakers at the United Nations and if the version I heard of Gustavo Petro's speech was correctly translated; then his was enlightening.
The United Nations should be a stronger force in the world but those in power --->are required to cede their own power to strengthen that alliance.
When we are convinced that any nations interest supersedes that of humanities interests in maintaining our own habitat: we are lost as a species.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

Tyranny around the world is trying to make a comeback. The consolidation of power by my current administration in America will have an effect on liberty everywhere.

The best thing about our country is our constitution, Trump doesn't seem interested in the oath he took to defend it and too many Americans don't seem to understand the true value of our amendments.
Our agreed upon rights are a social contract and for us in America we have yet to live up to the basic idea of equality.

While us free people allow (and pay for) our governments to do things like starve people in Gaza and level it with bombs so the wealthy  can come in "rebuild": no human is free to live with basic human dignity.

Major news outlets can no longer ignore what is happening on the Gaza strip
This is an extraordinary example in real time of exploitation for profit and power

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI59oIzn9JU   <---- the absolute horseshit of other countries being ready to welcome the Palestinian people when we are literally allowing masked ICE agents to violate our 4th and 5th amendments by racially profiling brown people and disappearing them into places like "Alligator Alcatraz".

Trump posted this A.I. Trump/Gaza video on his truth social
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oUrTbEVyJPo

Congo, Sudan... human right violations for profit is exceedingly evil (to me) but industry has convinced humanity that "regulations" impede liberty.





 


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: _Miracle on September 30, 2025, 11:23:19 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLzUhjf7XQU   <---Finlands president addressing the United Nations
I would link my own presidents speech but it is quite embarrassing.
Even though i didn't vote for that guy for being opportunistic right winger, and he wasn't the best choice; next to Trump he seems like an intellectual.

Your idea of absolutes is quite questionable There can be absolute rules without exceptions.
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Obviously there are people who would consider anything tyranny. That's free speech and they are allowed to their opinion. Ironically that is one of those examples where you can't please everyone and that having absolute rules is just matter of opinions, values and interpreted definitions of those rules. That's why judges and courts for example are needed. Absolutes exist only in mathematics.

Also, about that tyranny... Especially people in the US don't seem to understand how much their own freedom they are restricting by pushing their own idea of freedom.
This seems somehow tying into the communism panic, where everything else, but exploiting people freely is communism and unamerican.
1: How many exceptions do you have for the basic human rights?

2: It seems that you're saying whether someone is living under tyranny is a matter of personal opinion.
1: You have to be more specific or elaborate on that, because i don't have a clue how you got there.
2: Because it literally is matter of perspective. Are people in USA now living under tyranny? Tyranny is a loaded word that means someone unfairly controlling how you are able to live. So with that, i definitely see USA under tyranny.

But the tyranny is their own ignorance. With proper usage of Private Membership Associations, and knowledge of the difference between 'person' and 'man/woman', people could easily change things in their self-imposed tyranny.

8)

What "Private Membership Association" can protect itself when an entity more powerful that it decides it wants to take what it has or destroy it?

Ask our indigenous in America how that worked out for them? Look at Palestine right now.

 


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: caroasi on September 30, 2025, 11:27:44 AM
Our human rights are only listed on paper and in reality we are living without human rights, in paper we have the freedom of speech but in reality you dare not speak against the high and mighty,  they say we have the right to free education but in reality some students drop out of school because they can't afford to pay their fees, they say we have right to life but in reality the high and mighty sponsor unknown gun men to take the lives of citizens, they say we have the right to privacy but they are in charge of our money in our bank account and even monitor every transaction you make daily, right to work? But there's no job anywhere for the graduates. The only free thing I know is the air that we breathe.
Free education is a entitlement as a contractual entitlement. A right cannot mean taking someone else's possessions for one's own personal improvement. You don't have the "right" to other people's things. That is only gained by a social contract with others.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: caroasi on September 30, 2025, 11:41:02 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLzUhjf7XQU   <---Finlands president addressing the United Nations
I would link my own presidents speech but it is quite embarrassing.
Even though i didn't vote for that guy for being opportunistic right winger, and he wasn't the best choice; next to Trump he seems like an intellectual.

Your idea of absolutes is quite questionable There can be absolute rules without exceptions.
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Obviously there are people who would consider anything tyranny. That's free speech and they are allowed to their opinion. Ironically that is one of those examples where you can't please everyone and that having absolute rules is just matter of opinions, values and interpreted definitions of those rules. That's why judges and courts for example are needed. Absolutes exist only in mathematics.

Also, about that tyranny... Especially people in the US don't seem to understand how much their own freedom they are restricting by pushing their own idea of freedom.
This seems somehow tying into the communism panic, where everything else, but exploiting people freely is communism and unamerican.
1: How many exceptions do you have for the basic human rights?

2: It seems that you're saying whether someone is living under tyranny is a matter of personal opinion.
1: You have to be more specific or elaborate on that, because i don't have a clue how you got there.
2: Because it literally is matter of perspective. Are people in USA now living under tyranny? Tyranny is a loaded word that means someone unfairly controlling how you are able to live. So with that, i definitely see USA under tyranny.
Because you said "These are ideals to reach for, but because every ideal can have paradoxes they can't be any absolute rules without exceptions.", it seems like you're saying there are exceptions to rights?

Rights are more objective than subjective. They are based on concepts like Game Theory, which in turn are based on math. So, do believe there is something absolute about rights. While there is an element of opinion on what is tyranny and what isn't, it certainly cannot be said that a pacifist is a tyrant, so clearly there is a point at which it is objective.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Agbamoni on September 30, 2025, 01:15:51 PM
Every laws made by humans are flawed. Rely on them at your own risk.
The flaw here is; we cannot control the actions of people around us, and people can go to any length to forcefully take the right of another person. This leave no room for human rights to fully work. The laws can be tampered, favoring those who they want to favor and leaving the less privilege's with no options than to choke in his own spit.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Promocodeudo on September 30, 2025, 01:37:19 PM
Every laws made by humans are flawed. Rely on them at your own risk.
The flaw here is; we cannot control the actions of people around us, and people can go to any length to forcefully take the right of another person. This leave no room for human rights to fully work. The laws can be tampered, favoring those who they want to favor and leaving the less privilege's with no options than to choke in his own spit.
Human laws can be flexible, human laws may face review at anytime or not be kept, we individually have different character and these characters can not be subdued just like that, even when we are not doing the right thing controlling us as humans with laws that governs the land may not stop crime completely, people will still want to do things that doesn't align with those laws that's humans nature, so it difficult in that aspect, I might be deviating. As for taking right of people, it didn't start today and I believe it won't just stop happening, let's not forget that these laws are made by people,.so don't we think that the right of people can be jeopardized since humans are responsible for these laws.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Bigjoe158 on September 30, 2025, 02:11:20 PM
Yes we are enjoying human right to some extent. We have those freedom of what you listed down. Humans are the most difficult creatures on earth reasons been that all these laws are all enshrined in the Constitution of the nations but greed, corruption, religion, beliefs and customs have deprived so many people of these benefits. Jihadist,rebel groups etc felt it's a crime against there faith. Most of them try stoping women from accessing education, right of gathering, right to vote and be voted for,not wearing trousers and shirts, women not sitting where men are gathered etc. Government also try to suffocate citizens from speaking out against them or there policies. So yes we enjoy freedom to a certain limit.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: El_Tammy on October 02, 2025, 05:09:36 PM

FREEDOM OF SPEECH: This is another lies about people having freedom of speech.
In as much as I am  concerned this country has no freedom of speech to their citizenship, before you have freedom of speech in this country you might have known your way or else you will be a died man.
Therefore there is no freedom of speech.
Talking about the Freedom of Speech, it's very simple as seen that there's nothing like that in our country Nigeria. You can't even say what you think or believe is right because of the fear of the government or those in power. It's very shameful to be in a state or country who practices DEMOCRACY but the features or it are not there. I would have talked about every other rights mentioned there but the Freedom of Speech is mainly breached and that is why I have to highlight on it. If the Freedom of Speech of citizens can be maintained, respected and even held high, I believe a lot of things going on today would be tackled following the right procedures.
In government, the voices of the people plays a very big role in a successful administration but if these people are not allowed or even permitted to say something, then it's a shame.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: o48o on October 02, 2025, 08:39:04 PM
Because you said "These are ideals to reach for, but because every ideal can have paradoxes they can't be any absolute rules without exceptions.", it seems like you're saying there are exceptions to rights?
Exception to every rule, not just "rights". And rights given by whom? Are we talking about OP's vague list without definitions, or are these from US bill of rights or UN:s universal declaration of human rights?

Rights are more objective than subjective. They are based on concepts like Game Theory, which in turn are based on math. So, do believe there is something absolute about rights. While there is an element of opinion on what is tyranny and what isn't, it certainly cannot be said that a pacifist is a tyrant, so clearly there is a point at which it is objective.
"Something absolute" isn't a thing. It's by definition either absolute or not. And rights are based on subjective values.
Outcomes of game theory are highly debatable, because it's based on those subjective values used in that game theory.

Obviously "pacifist" ruler can be a tyrant, because calling someone pacifist can mean a lot of things, like it can ignore passive aggression. You can be seemingly a pacifist in someone's eyes, while allowing a genocide by refusing to act, or preventing anyone helping.

Let's go with OP's vague points:
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1. RIGHT TO LIFE
US (for example) has death penalties, so i guess it's a matter of debate who can have this right. Police in US is also killing ton of people who didn't have guns on their person.

I would argue that self defense can sometimes end lives, and that abortion is perfectly reasonable when done early enough, or when pregnancy is dangerous to the mother.

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2. FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Let's just use freedom of expression to cover more ground here. I have nothing against it, but with freedom comes responsibility, and you are going to be responsible for your speech, if it causes danger to someone.
Sometimes it can be even be prevented, when people try to share something illegal online.

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3. FREEDOM OF EDUCATION
It's actually about everyone having right to education, and i am fully for this, and personally i don't see any sane any exceptions for that. But again, this is about values. Just because they align with me, doesn't mean everyone thinks that everyone is equal and should be treated equally. Values are something we need laws for, because people aren't going to agree on them.

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4. PRIVACY
You can't act like it's tyranny, if your privacy is unveiled and all you used for was to hide some horrendous crimes.

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5. RIGHT TO WORK
Exception: If your work is actively or indirectly causing harm to people, by misleading or forcing them.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Yablee0 on October 04, 2025, 02:27:15 PM
That is the kind of life we now find our self, the common citizens has no say in the society no rights to life or freedom of speech as been stated in the constitution. People are been slaughter by terrorists, bandits and so on, our leaders that are surpose to protect us are busy chasing their own selfish interests, or are you talking about freedom of speech? that's even the worst because bad leaders wouldn't want you to even say a word about their evil and bad system of government all they want is for you to keep silent while suffering otherwise they forget you in jail.

It is crazy and even hard to believe that insecurity has been the other of the day is just for one to stay vigilant and pray you didn't fall victim.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Kavelj22 on October 04, 2025, 09:25:33 PM
It is crazy and even hard to believe that insecurity has been the other of the day is just for one to stay vigilant and pray you didn't fall victim.

When i look deep in the modern human history, i find it easy to conclude that we are still living in the slavery age but with modern concepts. Just look at the situation in Gaza since just two years, an intentional genocide made by leaders of the modern world who got confirmation from the greatest human right council in the world, the UN. Even if i am living in luxury life, when i see such a massacre without being able to react i do really feel inhuman and unrespectful. Another case recently in morroco, where eight pregnant women died from medical negligence while the government spends billions building stadiums for world cup 2030.

In USA, the governors spend billions to finance wars and conflicts arround the world, while they have 2% population living in the streets. This is crazy!!


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Johnlomape on October 04, 2025, 09:38:48 PM
Before going down to outline what human rights are I think we should critically look what human rights is.
To me human rights can be seen as a freedom or a fundamental positive right enshrined in the rules of law given to human to operate on as part of life.

THIS RIGHTS INCLUDES
1. RIGHT TO LIFE
2. FREEDOM OF SPEECH
3. FREEDOM OF EDUCATION
4. PRIVACY
5. RIGHT TO WORK

Just to name but a few,  in my own emphasize on number 1 right to life, I really don't think if majority of people in this country have right to their lifes, because the way and manners they are slutering people in this country shows that people don't actually have right to their lifes.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH: This is another lies about people having freedom of speech.
In as much as I am  concerned this country has no freedom of speech to their citizenship, before you have freedom of speech in this country you might have known your way or else you will be a died man.
Therefore there is no freedom of speech.

FREEDOM OF EDUCATION: this is the worst I have ever seen in this country,  the educational system is died and gone this is where students pay just to pass their course.
And the have turned it into the highest bidder got it all.

RIGHT TO WORK: our system is not working at all we have multinational companies how much of our people are working in those areas non?
The children of the common men are largushing in different countries hustling just to make life better for them self, while their country are selling off their crude and monitizing their company to strangers.

With all this I think I am convinced that human has no rights anywhere whatsoever no matter how it has been enshrined in the constitution is non and void .

The government is gradually taking all these rights away from us and there is nothing we can do unless we seek for revolution. The right to free speech was the voice of the masses before but now everything is changing gradually. You have the liberty to get the best education but the government is not available to provide good jobs for people.
You have the right to work but the question lies on who is going to provide the jobs. Those that are doing nice jobs are are able to get those jobs due to connections. If you don't have connection, it will be very hard for you to get a good job that will pay you well.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: OgNasty on October 04, 2025, 09:44:35 PM
I am.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Claudksg on October 04, 2025, 11:56:49 PM
I don't think we had humans are enjoying our funds mental human rights,because the world we live in right now won't allow it work.there is no country in the world now which are not govern by laws,and those laws are been made buy we the human to govern us.and that's has made our right limited because we no our selves as human and the law maker been humans.knows if this right are not limited we are still going to use it against our selves.so we learn to live with it like that,and those that go on extra miles to speak out on there right faces the repercussions.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Proty on October 05, 2025, 12:05:26 PM
Our human rights are only listed on paper and in reality we are living without human rights, in paper we have the freedom of speech but in reality you dare not speak against the high and mighty,  they say we have the right to free education but in reality some students drop out of school because they can't afford to pay their fees, they say we have right to life but in reality the high and mighty sponsor unknown gun men to take the lives of citizens, they say we have the right to privacy but they are in charge of our money in our bank account and even monitor every transaction you make daily, right to work? But there's no job anywhere for the graduates. The only free thing I know is the air that we breathe.
I believe what you just narrated is your experience in your own country, which may not be the same in other countries.There is freedom of speech, freedom of movement and then right to life . You can't tell me that you are being deprived of this . Sometimes some people do miss use there freedom, the fact they said you have freedom of speech doesn't give you the right to abuse someone else. So I think while most person thinks that they are not given this freedom is because they fail to understand that there freedom has limit. The fact they said you have freedom of movement doesn't mean you have the right to invade someone else privacy.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: LOVER BOY 422 on October 06, 2025, 08:22:33 AM
No we are not enjoying our human right ,human right is abused in this country.
Country where soldiers treat the citizens like slaves,where their is no human right anymore,with this our human right has been abused


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: ThankGodkk2 on October 06, 2025, 04:15:04 PM
If there are no human rights, you won't be able to post in the forum anyway because everything will be censored. So, that could be at least give some hope that there's still some human rights that are being followed. But I agree that not all of these privileges are being passed on to us, we are not enjoying all of the benefits of human rights because of how political colors have set the boundary for all of us and on how our leaders work for their people. I think that we're on a better situation compared to the people that have been isolated like North Korea or have been judged with the prejudice of being a bad country and having a bad society.





It's only in some African countries that individuals don't enjoy human rights.

In Western world all their citizens enjoy all humans right especially the female and the animals.

Their human rights act is most certainly protected for them.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Zanab247 on October 06, 2025, 04:52:18 PM
If you live in a corrupt country you will not enjoy human rights, because where human rights reign corrupt leaders can be expose to public for agencies to take action. But if you expose any corrupt leaders where leaders don't recognize human rights, you can spend the rest of your life in jail and nobody will speak on your behalf for you to be release.

Freedom of speech is what human beings should be enjoying all over the world but some governments refuse to allow it to work, and it will expose many things that will make bad people not to occupy government offices, because they know anything they do people will spread it either good or bad.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: caroasi on October 07, 2025, 12:37:21 PM
Because you said "These are ideals to reach for, but because every ideal can have paradoxes they can't be any absolute rules without exceptions.", it seems like you're saying there are exceptions to rights?
Exception to every rule, not just "rights". And rights given by whom? Are we talking about OP's vague list without definitions, or are these from US bill of rights or UN:s universal declaration of human rights?

Rights are more objective than subjective. They are based on concepts like Game Theory, which in turn are based on math. So, do believe there is something absolute about rights. While there is an element of opinion on what is tyranny and what isn't, it certainly cannot be said that a pacifist is a tyrant, so clearly there is a point at which it is objective.
"Something absolute" isn't a thing. It's by definition either absolute or not. And rights are based on subjective values.
Outcomes of game theory are highly debatable, because it's based on those subjective values used in that game theory.

Obviously "pacifist" ruler can be a tyrant, because calling someone pacifist can mean a lot of things, like it can ignore passive aggression. You can be seemingly a pacifist in someone's eyes, while allowing a genocide by refusing to act, or preventing anyone helping.

Let's go with OP's vague points:
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1. RIGHT TO LIFE
US (for example) has death penalties, so i guess it's a matter of debate who can have this right. Police in US is also killing ton of people who didn't have guns on their person.

I would argue that self defense can sometimes end lives, and that abortion is perfectly reasonable when done early enough, or when pregnancy is dangerous to the mother.

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2. FREEDOM OF SPEECH
Let's just use freedom of expression to cover more ground here. I have nothing against it, but with freedom comes responsibility, and you are going to be responsible for your speech, if it causes danger to someone.
Sometimes it can be even be prevented, when people try to share something illegal online.

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3. FREEDOM OF EDUCATION
It's actually about everyone having right to education, and i am fully for this, and personally i don't see any sane any exceptions for that. But again, this is about values. Just because they align with me, doesn't mean everyone thinks that everyone is equal and should be treated equally. Values are something we need laws for, because people aren't going to agree on them.

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4. PRIVACY
You can't act like it's tyranny, if your privacy is unveiled and all you used for was to hide some horrendous crimes.

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5. RIGHT TO WORK
Exception: If your work is actively or indirectly causing harm to people, by misleading or forcing them.

Thanks for the clarification. You've shown there how exceptions to rights can negate the right entirely, rendering them non-rights. I would say some of the concepts you've offered are rights, and others are more threats of enslavement than offering any right or freedom, because they are simply worded too vaguely, rather than any explicitly bad provision. For example, you say "dangerous speech" is an exception to free speech, but that exception negates the concept as a right entirely. Any given speech can be said to be some level of dangerous. Lets say my speech to you is "Have a nice day". You could say to me that because "nice guys finish last", my command to you to finish last is dangerous and harmful to your well being. What is dangerous and what isn't has no legal definition, thus any speech whatsoever that someone doesn't like can simply be labeled dangerous and then banned. So, more detail is needed for any right to exist at all in that case.

You also have something that could certainly be interpreted an enslavement re-casted as a "right". A big problem of today's society is that they have re-interpreted rights to mean enslaving others to accomplish their personal goals. So, one does indeed have a right to an education as education of them selves with their own resources. But one doesn't (always) have the right to take another person's resources for their own education. That would be an entitlement, which is a sort of opposite of a right, especially if you have no interest in the education but have to give it to someone else who you don't even like via your property being taken without permission. So, a right cannot be a situation where your property is taken away for another family and you get nothing specific and definite to you in return. A social contract someone does agree to explicitly, giving their resources for other people's education, would be an entitlement, which isn't a right. The social contract can include situations where your things are taken without your permission.

I disagree that rights cannot consist of absolute and relative parts. I believe any given thing can have both absolute and relative parts. A doctor's scale has the absolute part you stand on, and the relative part you slide on the scale. In specific, an aspect of rights that is absolute is the equal application to all emancipated people upon their emancipation. Rights are the natural behaviors enabled to all people by game theory, and one aspect of absolute in a right is the equal application to all people, whether or not a law tells someone of their right or not. Human rights apply to all humans who respect those same rights. The law doesn't need to say anything about them, they exist prior to any government acknowledgment. The subjective part of a right is typically the definition of harm, while the absolute part is the freedom it protects.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Nuel0717 on October 07, 2025, 02:14:29 PM
I think that it depends on the country, from what I heard people in America, and many European countries enjoy human rights, the government of these countries respect the dignity and rights of their citizens. But the same cannot be said about most developing countries, citizens in these countries are denied their human rights because they don't have a voice. Their justice systems favors the rich and influential people, they can get away with crimes and abuses, the system shields them from prosecution. The poor are treated like they are nothing, their rights are taken away from them and there is nothing they can do about it. Most of these countries that don't respect their citizens human rights are mostly poor and backward, they don't like the poor to have a voice to speak out against them.

Your Absolutely right about the fact that it depends on the country, speaking of those developing countries I will like to use Nigerian as a big example, because I know many people will agree with me that we are not enjoying our human rights and our government does not respect our dignity at all, every day there are several news of people being deprived of their rights in so many occasions, some undergo police brutality, some limitations to their fair hearing,etc wich are all undemocratic practices. I don't think in a country like Nigerian we are enjoying our human rights , but I will like to know what can be done to make our human rights more valuable again?, since our leaders are not even ready to give a listening ear.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: uchegod-21 on October 07, 2025, 03:42:41 PM
All of these rights will be meaningless in a system that is unjust and corrupted. These rights can be just paperworks which we will call the constitution, but in reality, it is not being applied.

We need an incorruptible government for these rights written in the constitution to make more sense. We need a just, free and fair society to really feel the impacts of these fundamental human rights. If corruption prevails, nothing else will work.

The solution here is to always speak out even if it will hurt someone. Staying silent for the fear of the unknown will only make things worst. In the end, only the lower class citizens will suffer the most.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Hispo on October 07, 2025, 04:15:47 PM
Privacy and right to life are two fundamental human rights which we sometimes take for granted but in reality we continue to lose a little bit of both day by day, without us even noticing. My country is a very good example of it, here there are been very blatant cases of the government using its power to disappear political adversaries, there is also a serious lack of medical services for most of the population, so it is also common to die from treatable diseases, all of those things are instances of violation of the right to live.

When comes to privacy, one does not need to look deep to find how our phones and computer have been turned into surveillance devices for both governments and big technological companies. It is sad but true, we are slowly losing all our human rights as years come and go.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Jeremiah001 on October 08, 2025, 06:27:05 PM
In a world where people are getting arrested for sharing information on social networks, no. Free speech is now a thing of the past, chaos are all over Europe, young people getting arrested for saying things or reacting to a certain post online. What more in the real world, people are harassed in the streets by immigrants, and the government isn't doing much about it, more than 116,000 phones were stolen last year in london. Shouldn't there be a right to ownership? Things are no longer normal as usual. Human rights are not certainly available these days, even Trump's X account was taken down in 2021 for causing violence online ;D


Due to some recent advancement in the field of life we are leaving in a society where humans right has been limited based on personal interest, no more freedom in the society regardless the difference between you and the society, but I somehow i like the way things is turning out to because humans being abused their right in most cases because of money interest this mostly happens in political sector where oppositional party can sell their right because of money.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Berry2d on October 08, 2025, 09:27:28 PM
Privacy and right to life are two fundamental human rights which we sometimes take for granted but in reality we continue to lose a little bit of both day by day, without us even noticing. My country is a very good example of it, here there are been very blatant cases of the government using its power to disappear political adversaries, there is also a serious lack of medical services for most of the population, so it is also common to die from treatable diseases, all of those things are instances of violation of the right to live.

When comes to privacy, one does not need to look deep to find how our phones and computer have been turned into surveillance devices for both governments and big technological companies. It is sad but true, we are slowly losing all our human rights as years come and go.

As for privacy and right to life, they are not available for the poor but only beneficiary to the rich and wealthy ones because of how the poor are being marginalised and forced into what they don't like but must do it because they don't have any option than to go by it by fire and force. The society is so corrupt that the law enforcement agencies call white black and black white, making poor lose right to everything but  theoretically make it those general to all but effective to the rich.
Nowadays I don't believe their is law for the rich because they  operate with total dominance and operation to the low level one and are not held accountable for their actions but the poor can't do so


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Floxynice on October 08, 2025, 10:01:41 PM
Privacy and right to life are two fundamental human rights which we sometimes take for granted but in reality we continue to lose a little bit of both day by day, without us even noticing. My country is a very good example of it, here there are been very blatant cases of the government using its power to disappear political adversaries, there is also a serious lack of medical services for most of the population, so it is also common to die from treatable diseases, all of those things are instances of violation of the right to live.

When comes to privacy, one does not need to look deep to find how our phones and computer have been turned into surveillance devices for both governments and big technological companies. It is sad but true, we are slowly losing all our human rights as years come and go.

As for privacy and right to life, they are not available for the poor but only beneficiary to the rich and wealthy ones because of how the poor are being marginalised and forced into what they don't like but must do it because they don't have any option than to go by it by fire and force. The society is so corrupt that the law enforcement agencies call white black and black white, making poor lose right to everything but  theoretically make it those general to all but effective to the rich.
Nowadays I don't believe their is law for the rich because they  operate with total dominance and operation to the low level one and are not held accountable for their actions but the poor can't do so
All of these rights exist in paper, but in reality, they are not being practiced. Whether we admit it or not, there is this natural inequality that exist between the rich and the poor. The rich are the superior people in the society, hence the law always favours them because they themselves are the law makers and enforcers.

Human rights will become very neccessary if the law will protect everyone and also punish everyone who violates the law irrespective of social status.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: caroasi on October 09, 2025, 12:42:23 PM
In a world where people are getting arrested for sharing information on social networks, no. Free speech is now a thing of the past, chaos are all over Europe, young people getting arrested for saying things or reacting to a certain post online. What more in the real world, people are harassed in the streets by immigrants, and the government isn't doing much about it, more than 116,000 phones were stolen last year in london. Shouldn't there be a right to ownership? Things are no longer normal as usual. Human rights are not certainly available these days, even Trump's X account was taken down in 2021 for causing violence online ;D


Due to some recent advancement in the field of life we are leaving in a society where humans right has been limited based on personal interest, no more freedom in the society regardless the difference between you and the society, but I somehow i like the way things is turning out to because humans being abused their right in most cases because of money interest this mostly happens in political sector where oppositional party can sell their right because of money.
One can sell the protection of a right, but the right itself remains as ready as it ever was to be reclaimed at any time. This is part of the negotiation of the social contract. When negotiations are taking place, people can recognize the power they have and the associated responsibility for each right.


Title: Re: Do you think we are enjoying our human rights?
Post by: Hispo on October 09, 2025, 04:08:07 PM
If there are no human rights, you won't be able to post in the forum anyway because everything will be censored. So, that could be at least give some hope that there's still some human rights that are being followed. But I agree that not all of these privileges are being passed on to us, we are not enjoying all of the benefits of human rights because of how political colors have set the boundary for all of us and on how our leaders work for their people. I think that we're on a better situation compared to the people that have been isolated like North Korea or have been judged with the prejudice of being a bad country and having a bad society.

It's only in some African countries that individuals don't enjoy human rights.

In Western world all their citizens enjoy all humans right especially the female and the animals.


That is not completely accurate, though. I am from south america (which is part of the west) and here in my country there is a systematic violation of human rights by our regime, which does anything in their power to keep people oppressed so politicians can continue to steal as much money as possible and keep it on shady bank accounts abroad.
Also, it is rather silly to affirm animals have more rights than men here in the west, which is false, men are the ones who have more chances to thrive in a western society and animals are blatantly neglected in many countries of this continent and nobody does something about it. I have even seen people at bus stops selling wildlife, which is against the law.

I dont know what country are you from, but saying the west is the place for one to enjoy human rights the most is rather an idealization of what is shown on Television.