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Generally, it's important to distinguish between gambling addiction with loss of money and gambling addiction without loss of money. People often don't make this distinction, or they make it implicitly, lumping them together. Classic gambling addiction, which brings you close to financial ruin, is more serious and requires much more rigorous therapeutic measures—such as a ban on gambling, a change in activity, a stay in specialized treatment facilities, and so on.
But let's discuss gambling addiction without loss of money. The reason for distinguishing this particular form of gambling addiction is that it's milder and likely treated differently. What do I mean by this? For example, these are the online games that teenagers enjoy playing. They primarily spend a significant amount of time playing them, which leads to difficulties in school or social adaptation. But since the games are generally free, this type of addiction is generally milder, as such a gambling addict typically wastes a significant amount of time unproductively, but has no financial problems overall. What do you think about gambling addiction without losing money? Do you think this type of gambling addiction exists, or is it a far-fetched problem? If so, does it require a fundamentally different treatment?

Gambling addiction without loss of money is rarely seen or regarded as addiction since the player rarely display the negative characters of an addicted gambler such putting the family in debt, being aggressive, crime and many others. It is usually when there is loss of money that addiction because a big issue.

However, if a player is addicted to gambling and he is lucky to remain in profits, it is a matter of time before he moves into the other side and start exhibiting all the terrible things known for gambling addiction.

This is my first time hearing about addiction with and without loss of money because my thought have always been that addiction comes with loss of money which is the main reason it is bad. If I'm addicted to gambling and same gambling is earning me money, why should I even try to stop myself from being addicted? I think there should be another word for such addiction because it is sounding too positive to be called addiction.

Sorry but I think there is nothing like a gambling addiction without the loss of money, and this is because I do not believe there is any such gambling games that playing them is absolutely free, non of such exists anywhere except you are talking about demo version of slot and casino games, then I would also say that it's impossible for a person to only play demo version of slot and casino games until they become addicted, it's impossible..

Or maybe you are talking about other games like video games, this is not gambling games but let's assume it is, it also is not free this days, video games come with in-game purchases like buying weapons, upgrading the old ones, buying bosses, this is are items that can help the person to clear more levels and enjoy the game more, several kids and adults who are addicted to video games spend a lot of money on in-game purchases and this is even worst than gambling because it's is no opportunity of getting any thing back in return unlike gambling games where you get to make some profit if and when you win the game

But also, if you still want to convince me, then you should mentions the games where playing them are completely free and has the ability of getting a person addicted to it.

I don’t know for sure whether addiction without spending money is considered gambling or not. But equating it with gambling addiction seems different. It appears to be a problem similar to addiction to certain games. I think the future losses are very significant if it relates to the times when he was in school. This addiction is definitely a detrimental attitude. Wasted time, thoughts, and energy.

Overall, although it may not seem overtly harmful and doesn't appear to be recognized as dangerous, it is still a form of addiction and requires an approach to healing. Even without monetary loss, it can greatly affect a person's psychological well-being and requires serious attention.

I agree with you, though in my comment above, I've said I do not believe there is any of such as gambling game that doesn't come wit loss of money, in every gambling game, money can be lost either directly or in-directly, I do not know if you know about this saying that "time is money", it's a very popular saying here in my country.

Any gambler who's isn't spending money on gambling is definitely spending time or as the case be, he or she may be spending both money and time, the time spent playing that game is one that could have been used to engage in something more productive that could immediately or in the future be very beneficial to the gambler.
So how ever way we choose to look at this, I still believe that there are no gambling games where the player cant lose money except its not gambling we are talking about.

Addiction doesn't always mean spending or losing large amounts of money. However, gambling addiction always involves ongoing financial loss.
A person's addiction can involve spending a lot of time without spending much money, such as playing online games, surfing the internet, and so on. However, what the OP said reminds me of a friend, but I don't know if it's the same. I mean, I also have a friend who is addicted to one of the many online gambling games. He plays demo games almost every day, but without spending a penny, which is why he feels so happy and addicted.

I'm surprised to hear that someone can gamble and get addicted without losing money because all the years i have been gambling, i haven't heard of such a thing in gambling. If there's any betting company where i can bet on games without paying money,  please tell me. I am willing to get addicted to gambling since it will not cost me a dime to bet on games. If playing online games is what you are referring to as gambling addiction without losing money, i don't see it as gambling since the online games is free to play; those teenagers just find themselves a safe way to have fun without losing money.

Is that really possible? I mean, he may not be losing too much money, but there might come a time when he will be urged to do it differently and bet something for it, which will lead to gambling addiction and money loss.

I don't believe something like "no losses" exists. The gambling addiction mostly came from either too many losses (chasing) or greed, which came from winning something big and wanting to repeat the same win. There's always money involved while doing it.

Although I do agree with gaming addiction that does not require money, I became one of those playing MMORPG games, and I have not been spending anything ever since they made games "Free to Play".

In any case, when school children play such soft games without money, they will definitely get addicted to it. When they enjoy playing these games, they will gradually get into their brains, even though they will not play with money at first. But gradually, they will definitely get into trouble, although they will not lose money in these games, there is a high possibility of addiction and at some point they will try to play with money. Although I think this will be a threat to school students because when they go here to gamble, they will definitely get immersed in it. But for adults, it is not much of a threat, but if they gamble without money, they will be less prone to addiction.

This is actally the accepted definition of gambling addiction. As you can see there are not only finances involved but many aspects of human beings.
I don't think that their "addictions" are better than others, maybe some are more distruptive versus others or maybe are faster than others.
Even if you don't lose money, but have consequences in other fields... this would already be a great disaster :( and escaping could not be easy at all.

Yes those type of gambling addiction exist.Just as you have explained about classic gambling and Gambling without losing money, it is very clear. There is no how we can compare the both, the overall explanation about Gambling addict is popularly known as those type of addiction that allows a gambler to lose fund, in the quest to win huge or chasing after lose. But in the other hands a Gambling addict can also be a person or teenager who play video games all the time and this deprive him or her to do it's duty at home. It is very clear.

i think the kind of treatment that is given to a  classic gambler Is different from that which is given to a Gambling addict without losing money. Is just like the treatment given to an adult when they make mistake and the treatment given to a child when they also make mistake is quite different. So an addict without losing money is easy to control since money is not involve than that of an addict that money is involved.

Yes this type of gambling addiction does exist. Its probably an even bigger issue than actual gamblers who lose real money. There are many adults and kids which are addicted to video game. They dont go outside or go to school or even work due to a game addiction.

I knew a few people in my old school who had to drop out because they got addicted to World of Warcraft and had no life outside of that game. And its similar now with young kids playing Roblox. So even if there is no loss of money, it can still cause life consenquences when all you do is stay home and play games and waste away your life.

Gambling addiction without loss of money I don't think it's possible, cause the first stage that leads to an addiction  is due to a loss of money and need to keep up the process. The fact that the game is absolutely free and the teenagers are having so much fun while at it would definitely enable them to go further with putting in more funds which will results to a loss while they get addicted to the process.. so it's very certain that there's no addiction without a loss.

Bro am still wondering, because the Gambling addiction that I know comes with so many negative and unacceptable impressions, we were meant to believe that gambling addiction is very bad and could be very dangerous for any gambler to adopt, have never seen or hear were a folks become addicted  to gambling without spending or losing money at the process of it, but however we learn almost everyday maybe I consider these a new thing I have learnt today.

My youngest kid flunked out of college because of his addiction to video games. He would rather stay up all night and play games then sit down and actually study. Didn't want to take the time to go to the tutoring center and get help with the math that he was flunking. We (my wife and I) would ask him how he was doing and he would always say he was doing fine and thought he was gonna pass. Then it came time for grades and my wife looked at his portal while he was home on xmas break. Come to find out he had been skipping classes and flunking 4 of the 5. There's more to the story, but you get the point I think.

With the above scenario, there is actually money involved. Scholarship losses, financial loss for books, financial loss for the dorm room, and food costs. Addiction is addiction, whether it be mild or serious as far as money is concerned. You may be blindsided like I was when you find out. Don't take the word of everyone, push the issue especially ifit's family.

That's gaming addiction.

I've been a gamer all of my life and spent money to the games that I've played for. This is a true situation that teenagers are facing and even kids, with other popular games now that has in-game money, they can't escape that spending.

I think gambling addiction without losing money can happen but in a way that you're spending your time in gambling. There are casinos that have demo modes or free money and in that way, you can think of it as you're gambling without having any penny to spend.

It there is no money involved then how can you say that it's gambling addiction?

What you describe is just game that kids play, sure they are hooked on it, but I wouldn't say that it's a gambling addiction without loss of money. It's just simply addiction on some games with dire consequences.

And this could be stop by the parents themselves by limiting the time the kids play.

Money is not the most valuable asset in life. Time is more important than money.  Time wasting could lead to poverty, health problems, and so on. To that student who is addicted to a game that makes him abandon his academics, he is simply destroying his future. Failure to pass his courses could lead to failure and even mental problems.

Addiction is the inability to control oneself regarding an action or activity. The remedy is to help the individual build control through diverse means. For someone who spends more money on gambling due to addiction, he might be encouraged to embrace budgeting and other financial management strategies. To the students who waste his time, the counsellor might prescribe time management skills, which might include developing a timetable or going off-grid.

Gambling should be related to money this condition makes the gamblers have spend a lot of money to satisfied their hobbies and eventually these people gets addicted from gambling because everytime they have money what is in their mind is always want to gambling and if there are people who addicted from other else but not involved to money which mean it cannot be says addicted gambling

According to OP stories i can conclude that those kids are gaming addicted and this is the negative impact of used gadget continuously without parenting control in some countries gaming addicted is serious issues because usually the effect is those kids don't want go to schools and socializing with their friends because for whole day these kids only spend their time with their gadget

1.This isn't gambling addiction. This is gaming addiction.
2.Teenagers(and adults) are spending lots of money on in-game items, not just time. Most games are designed to manipulate the gamer into spending money for in-game items, upgrades, upsells, improvements, in-game currency, etc. That's their business model.
Yes, there are forms of addiction, where the addict doesn't have to spend money. He just wastes his time. 
The topic about gaming addiction and pay-to-win games has been discussed before. Such addiction is as serious as the traditional gambling addiction and it also leads to serious financial loses and mental problems for the addict.
Pay-to-win games can be as addictive as traditional gambling. I see Youtubers talking about the "gamblification" of the entire economy. Another term is "gamification", which can also be viewed as gamblification. The economy is becoming more addiction based, which is a huge problem.
I have no solution for this problem.

As others have said, this is not gambling, but just simply gaming addiction as this is more likely to happen on kids specially in this era wherein there are a lot of online games like Roblox and others. But as far as I know, there could be games that involves money as well like buying skins or what (I'm not an expert on it). In any case, once the kids grow up, who knows, maybe this kind of subtle addiction might turn into a full blown gambling addiction if they involved themselves.

So for now the effect might not be there, but as they go on their lives, they might fall for it as once when they were kids they tend to gravitate towards games that are very addicting. Although they might have snapped out of it, still though that memory might carry with them with they grow old.

I dont get it. What is gambling addiction without loss of a money? Its like drinking alcohol free beer and being called as an alcoholic? I think gambling addiction without loss of money does not exist. Its impossible not to lose money in gambling. Gambling with play money isnt real gambling, because there is no real risk, and you dont get real emotions. It could be that the talk is about fake addiction to gambling, but that isnt an addiction at all.

I think it means that the person is simply addicted to the act of playing itself. Neither losing nor winning money affects this addiction. In that case, I would be more inclined to agree with davis196 that it is an addiction to the game, not to gambling. Just like an addiction to video games, where money does not play a key role.

Truly this is a type of addiction that is generally ignored because it doesn't involve money but it drains your time and energy that you can be using for something productive. In this type of none monetary types of addictive games it makes the addict to become oppsessd with the games which is a big problem that can affect jobs and studies. Game addiction is mostly worrisome for students who are addicted to it, it has the potentials to affect their studies negatively because they won't have the time to concentrate fully on their education. The question is money and time which is more wasteful that will affect an addict more? I think for adults it is money while for students and dependants it is time.

This is the first time I am hearing about this type of concept. But how possible is it?

Gambling involves staking- and it could be money or another item that in my estimation is valuable to the player because they want to win a higher reward. Anything other than this is not gambling. Maybe gaming but definitely not gambling. From my understanding, you can become addicted to gambling without any loss of money but you cannot be addicted to gambling without losing money or the item that has been staked.

Let's look at it from a practical perspective: can you become addicted to gambling without losing money? This is quite interesting. Take, for example, the game that kids are currently playing, Roblox, which my son, also in fourth grade, plays in my country. There's no gambling element whatsoever, and he doesn't understand it.

What happened was that he was quite addicted; whenever I was careless or taking a break, my phone was always the target of his playing. I often imposed restrictions, such as leaving my phone with only 5% charge and keeping the charger somewhere he didn't know.

So, it can be concluded that even though the game was played by someone with no capital, psychologically and behaviorally, the addiction has already ingrained itself in his brain, forcing him to play and win the level provided by the platform. If it becomes chronic, the effects are equally devastating.

This is similar to back in the day, when many of my school kids were addicted to playing Zynga Poker, spending hours at internet cafes and skipping school. This became quite a problem at the time, as these kids stopped thinking about school and preferred playing these online games at internet cafes. However, this isn't considered a gambling addiction, but rather an online gaming addiction, as they aren't betting anything, and there's no money involved, they just play for fun and to increase their level, since the higher their level, the more they look like experts among their friends. If money is involved in the game, only then it may be considered a gambling addiction.

I think there is, but it is not often expressed according to the experience of human psychology itself. Players often complain when the number of defeats is greater than victory or when they suffer losses they are noisy.

There is. Addiction like that that I understand is addiction that is still in a natural ketogori because in my opinion a player can still control himself during his play.
Every day he plays with the duration of time and the results obtained are different every day, but when calculated monthly, then he is not in defeat or loss.

Without anything at stake, can the game still be considered gambling? I prefer to call it an online game addiction, not a gambling addiction.
I see many teenagers in my area experiencing this. Every day after school, they gather to play and lose track of time. Even when their parents call them to come home just to eat or bathe, they ignore it. Some even get angry because of it.
The problem of addiction to such games affects a person's character. They don't lose money, but they lose time and become tired when they have to study.

An addiction is still an addiction, regardless of whether you lose money or not.
Clearly, if you lose money, the addiction is even more difficult to manage; the average gambler tends to win back what they've lost.
I consider myself a moderate gambling addict, in the sense that I never gamble for large sums, maximum $10 a week, which I don't often reach.
Sometimes, with a win, I can even play for several weeks for free.

Yea, good analogy!

I was actually thinking that gambling without losses is simply a business!
OK I know some businesses make losses sometimes but successful ones turn
a profit.

Addiction happens regardless of winning or losing. Most people would at best take an
extended break after making a lot of losses. But if you keep winning you have to
keep going!


Yes but if you keep winning you have to keep playing what happens when you start losing
and cannot stop chasing losses and getting deeper and deeper into a hole will determine a lot!

Addiction to online games is different than addiction to online gambling games. There is no risk of losing money for those teenagers by playing online games. But they can waste their time and just playing the games without doing other things. That is still not good for them because that can build their mental and not care about others. You can take a look at where some teenagers are busy playing online games without thinking about when they should break and do other things. Even they forget when they need to eat. However, that can impact their health especially their eyes because they are watching on their devices without stopping for hours. That needs different treatment for them because they become addicted to the games and can not live without that.

I would say that both video games and gambling share one similarity in terms of addiction that I find particularly dangerous: the loss of a sense of reality. This is especially true for young people who were born into a world of technology, the internet, and online spaces. They find it very difficult to see the real world as more interesting than the online one, and as a result, they spend more time in artificially created environments than in reality.

This is not gambling but simply playing games.  This is called game addiction.  I think we all know that gambling is something that has to do with stake, risk and reward.  In the given scenario there is no stake, no reward nor risk so we cannot call this a gambling addiction.

Regardless, when addicted, it needs to be treated.

For me when nothing is at stake, the person cannot be said to gambling. For it to be termed gambling, there must be a possibility of losing or gaining either money or material compensation afterwards. There are addictions of various kinds that leads to wasted time and efforts like watching movies, social media addiction and as well that includes addiction from playing games like you mentioned but they cannot be classified under gambling addiction since nothing is wagered in that regard.

Any game or activity that does not involve the staking of money/property to make profit or lose what you have stake is not gambling. Therefore, those that spend monwy money on video games and anything game related without staking are not gamblers and have nothing to lose because no negative emotion is attached to it. It's good to know the difference between the former and the latter.

I don't understand how you can get a sort of addiction without money either, it doesn't seem possible to me
Having an addiction is closely related to winning money, in fact one of the alternative methods to avoid addiction is not to give away cash prizes
but people simply don't play like this

AFAIK this is not gambling addiction rather gaming addiction which is popular to young generation. The only time a gambling addiction without losing is possible is when a player keeps on winning that drives him to become addicted which is very rare since most of the time we lose on gambling.


It exists but on very rare case so it’s not always being discussed due to its extreme rarity. Besides, before you can keep winning to become addicted, casino will restrict you already to stop you playing.

I completely agree that distinguishing a gambling addiction that doesn't involve money is a real thing, and it's a crucial point people often miss. The problem with free online games is that the currency isn't cash but time, which can be just as damaging for a teenager's development and social life. While it's a different kind of crisis than financial ruin, it's still a serious addiction that requires a tailored approach focused on teaching healthy habits and time management instead of just imposing a strict ban.

You created this topic so you are the one to tell me more about how people get addicted to gambling without losing money, because I have never heard about this before, so please let us more, since all the games in the casino universe are money oriented, you need money to have a taste of the game atleast, so how will gamblers not lose money? I want to know.

Unles the games are not casino based games, maybe other games that are not money oriented, like playing video games or card games with friend without risking any money, this games can turn into addiction but what is missing is the the fun, people can get drunk of the fun and keep coming back for more, but casinos and sports games in general? OP you have some explaining to do sir, enlighten us please.

The OP is also asking for more info and validation if this is a possibility because this is new topic on gambling discussion for gambling addiction matter.

Personally, I don’t believe that you can be addicted on gambling losing because the fact that you are gambling that already in addiction mode means you are playing too much that will surely inflict losses.


It’s not gambling(the typical gambling terms for casino) if there’s no money involved. This topic will be broader depending on how we consider gambling because some people will debate that exerting their time and effort is considered already as valuable as money.

For me does it seems its quite different now if the player just using an onlien games without the use of the real money because we know more likely gambling have the essence of money because if the player are just using an online game its not a gambling anymore considered as a online games addiction but in terms of the gambling this requires the player to play with the use of a form with the bet of real money. So if they want to play gambling they can use the online games as their alternative if they just want to get satisfied and just compete with other players. But as a gambler for sure they will seek for more thrill and excitement through out their knowledge with hte game they will seek more because they felt they are skilled.

Why would a gambling where you neither win nor lose money cause addiction? it would be so boring.

I don't know how to explain it myself, because you're right, generally speaking, people have to spend money to experience the game, and that's how they become addicted. If they don't experience the game, it's impossible to become addicted just by watching it. But considering that many online gambling operations are also demo-based, is it possible that those who become addicted without losing money are those who play demo-based gambling? But I think the sensation is different.

At first before going further we need to generally understand what is addiction, before we could categorized it as you mentioned above;..
This is my own view or understanding about addiction; addiction is what most and regularly do without skipping a day or giving chance to it, it's what mostly occupied your time at all moment. With this, one could find it difficult to either move, associates or mingle with people; it could be gambling addiction, gaming addiction, drinking addiction, smoking, drugs and whatever. They are all classified as an addictions. But then, we have to also look at the other aspect, which involves money and of course almost all addiction involves money except from gaming, in fact there are some games which one could paid money for each season depending on how many people are really ready to play game at the moment. So, from above I generally seen addiction as something that one depending on the area someone found himself or herself addicted to.

That was the same thought i was having because I have always known and have it in my mind that anything addiction is something that doesn't exempt the loss of money because that's the primary problem of an addiction I no, people usually like to absolve something that's frequently taken as something which is harmful if being subjected into to have a good part that works contrary to the belief of people about it but actually addiction doesn't have any good side because I'm a physical witness of it and I saw and it made people go through, perhaps the contradiction could be that those who gamble regularly and make wining with a limited loss was misconception to be an addict.  

Just as many people get addicted to gambling for money, which I call addiction for money, there are also many people who are not addicted to money but are addicted to gambling. In their case, the  money losing ratio is less but the time spent is much more. There are many such addicted gamblers. As a result of this type of addiction, even if a gambler does not lose much money, he has the same problems in other aspects as those who are addicted to money. I think that a person addicted to gambling particularly addicted to money or who is addicted only to gambling is both addicted. Both of them are harmed gamblers.

I think this is happening for professional gamblers since they are the one experiencing those things.

But for normal individual? I guess its hard to be achieve this situation since what commonly we could see is destructive behavior done by those most gamblers affected by addiction. This is really rare situation and only few individuals are in this status. Maybe the situation might differ to the level of the discipline of people.

But I think I'm not into that status since I experience win/lose situation and its hard to hit that level, since I think we need to be an expert on the casino games maybe before we can experience that.

who considers gambling without losing of money as an addictive lifestyle in the first place? regardless how frequent the individual indulge in the act of gambling, as long as he is not losing money, it will not be a thing of concern other than the fact that he will be seen as someone that is just wasting his time. addiction in the context of gambling is usually money related and not time related. i know that there are some people that can be better called gamers who spend all their times playing games and eventually getting addicted to it and it affect other areas of their life and leads to reduction in their productivity. that is a different thing on it own but gambling alone that does not involve the loss of money is not a thing that is of a serious concern to even the person that is involved in the act.

Has anyone become addicted without a loss of money? I don't think so. In fact, whether you are addicted or not, since you are gambling, you're experiencing losses already. How much more if you are addicted?

Without a loss just happens when you don't gamble. Or, if you are the casino owner. But, getting into the situation that we are gamblers, it is already assumed that we're going to lose. That is why, as we decide to gamble, we also accept the fact that we lose our money. Perhaps that is how gambling works.

Finally someone that understand gambling addiction. I have seen topic about gambling addiction on this forum and it has always been about people that lose money to casino because of their excessive love for gambling but when you look at addiction, it's totally different from what they claimed. First, a person can be addicted to gambling and be winning, be making money without any complaints it's just that they can't do without the gambling thing.
 
There is a positive impact from gambling and there is a negative impact from gambling. Someone with positive impact may not really have any problem, some of them are very smart with decision makeimg with their gambling money to other investments and future sake but you see where the main problem lies, it's the people that make nothing from gambling and doesn't know when to call a spade a space, they don't just know when to stop losing money over nothing.

But I thought gambling only exists when money is involved? When kids play games without money being involved, I don't think it's gambling that's just a gaming addiction. Gaming addiction is common with kids, I went through such thing when I was growing up, I was playing this video game called Sega. Mortal Kombat was one of the favourite games we were playing. My parents did everything possible to stop me from this gaming. It wasn't easy at first, but after several efforts I was rescued from this addiction.

Gaming addiction can start to be discussed not only in adolescence, but also in children just learning to play online games. The most popular game is Roblox, played by young children. Parents are initially happy that their child sits and quietly plays, undisturbed and undemanding. But time passes, and children begin to need games more and more. Now parents are alarmed that their child has lost interest in the world around them, and their thoughts and conversations regularly revolve around this game. School, outdoor play, everything ceases to be important, and parental prohibitions agitate the child's psyche so much that their tantrums develop into psychological illness.
I find it difficult to call this behavior a minor problem, especially considering that children are growing up and their future lives, without behavior correction, can become a nightmare. Incidentally, I've observed a story in close friends.

What do you think? Playing free gambling, can anyone ever be addicted? But I don't know if you can ever win free. Moreover, I am listening from responsible gamblers, most of the time people become addicted when they start gambling with money. Because if anything is available for free, no one is very emotional to it and has no chance of being addicted. That is why I think every person starts to get addicted when they become desperate to get their lost money back. It's a job like the most foolish. Because in every casino who can win money, they are most lucky. Because very few people can win the bet. In such situations, anyone can do very badly and do everything. Because they then go out of control.

Both examples the OP gave concern addiction, but one of them is not gambling addiction. Gambling addiction involves staking something of value, which could be money or other valuable items. While the other scenario could relate to spending time and energy on an activity solely because it entertains. I see people addicted to movies, computer games, social media, and so on. All addiction needs attention, but different remedial measures could be applied based on the nature.

What a funny question it is. Gambling addiction without losing the money. This is obviously impossible, unless there would be someone who wasted 24 hours a week just to gamble in the demo casino platform! If there's someone who did it, he deserves to be placed in psychiatric hospital!

For teenagers who play games, this isn't a problem because they play because they're under their parents' care, and they don't need money for it, their pocket money covers their needs. Everything changes when they find a girlfriend, and they clearly need more money for that. When their pocket money is insufficient, they'll start thinking about taking a job or a part-time job, leaving them with significantly less time to play. So I don't think it's an addiction worth worrying about.

On the other hand, there could be a gambling addiction without money, where a player plays slots without money (play for fun). They might play for several hours a day just for fun, but they won't lose real money. What do you think about this kind of addiction? How common is it, and should someone be concerned if they're addicted to this type of gaming, spending a lot of time on it, but not losing money?

I wonder why you are referring to games that teenagers play as gambling, because they don't play gambling games, at least I don't see teenagers playing gambling games that disturb their studies or school. All I see teenagers play are either first-person shooter games, such as PUBG Mobile or FreeFire, or other first-person games like where the character fights enemies, goes to different worlds or places. These are the kind of games that are addictive, even for adults, because if you play them regularly, you will feel like something is missing if you suddenly don't play for one day.

In my opinion, this could be called an addiction, but it can't be called gambling addiction, so comparing this addiction with the actual gambling addiction and saying whether this is a form of gambling addiction that costs no money is actually wrong, because as far as I know, people don't play gambling games for fun, games that are free and played by people because they are obsessed or addicted to them are different, as I mentioned earlier.

I have a gambling addiction, but I've managed to control my losses by setting a fixed amount to gamble each month. I treat it like a hobby, and I make sure it doesn't interfere with my financial responsibilities especially since I have a family. My top priority is ensuring that my hobby never puts them at risk. I believe that with any addiction or hobby, there's always the potential to lose money, the key is setting limits and sticking to them.

If in other contexts it makes sense, such as addiction to online games or liquor and others, but in gambling it is different, they really need money to play it emotionally and his pleasure, because it is addicted to gambling will involve a lot of money spent than other addiction.

I have never heard that someone is addicted to playing casino games without losing money, or is he playing in a demo game?

Let's know the meaning of gambling first. Gambling is an activity of playing a game of chance with money. Either betting or some other deliberation that involved money. So I do not agree with the terms of gambling without money. In as much as you are staking for a reward, it's already a loss or win.

But for these examples where children play video games and are often carried away from their studies or other activities, it's another kind of addiction which, even without loss of money, affects them psychologically and academically. It's also a disturbing thing because these people end up not being useful with their time and energy; rather, they invest it in playing games. Too much of everything is bad, so it's advice to limit how they play it and only play it at a good time and spend the other time creating better things.

First of all, to become addicted to gambling, a person has to gamble and if a person starts gambling, then he will definitely lose some money in that gambling. I will never believe that a person has gambled but he has not lost any money in his gambling career, it is impossible. Those who have been directly involved in gambling for a long time and whose results most of the time come in their favor also think a lot and gamble for some time and see that the results go against them, in that case how can a person actually become addicted to gambling without gambling. Maybe the beginning of a person's gambling career is positive and he thinks that his profit will come in this way but after a few gambling games when his money is lost, he gambles again to recover the lost money and again when he loses money he gambles again and in this way but he becomes addicted to gambling.

Too much of everything is bad kinda lesson, it doesn't end with playing roblox, also people get obsessed because they love food too much, and they don't care about the consequences of getting fat and not be able to move anymore.

In another way, to destroy something is very easy but to build? That reality strikes very fast, I got addicted to sugar when I was very young and I nearly get diabetes, I was already in the early stages and I went through hell to correct it.

Too much of everything will always be bad, because repercussions comes right after like a karma, even if we do good too much it strikes back like a cobra attacking it's prey, consuming things in minimal is the best life anyone can live, if one can master this they will do well in everything they do.

I gamble in minimal, I watch movies in minimal, I take medical drugs in minimal, I eat minimal, I play video game minimal, and I am passing this to my children.

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I think that is not visible positively, anyone who has been addicted to them in general will feel the loss and loss, whatever the type of addiction to the loss is included.

I have been involved in gambling for a long time, but I have never seen it individually if I gamble, I will definitely feel loss and loss, no matter what strategy they do, defeat still occurs.

I am trying to understand this too how someone can be addictive to gambling without any loss.
Maybe I have to relate it to a scenario where a gambler has been making loses from different bets and because of the consistency in his gambling activity he became addicted to gambling. Suddenly he hit a jackpot and the winning covers all his loses maybe upto 200X. In this case I can vividly assume that the gambler has an addiction without a loss of money. I believe my wicked narrative might be clear without being sarcastic lol. This scenery has 10% possibility of happening in 1000 gamblers.

Gambling addiction without money loss definitely exists even though it looks less harmful from the outside because the wallet isn’t getting drained the addiction is still there in the form of lost time lost focus and lost opportunities teenagers especially fall into this category because many of the games they play have gambling-like mechanics loot boxes spins and rewards that mimic casino patterns the hook isn’t the money it’s the endless chase for the next win or reward. This type of addiction feels milder because it doesn’t leave the same financial scars but the damage is still real it can eat away at school performance reduce motivation for real-life goals and even weaken social development since most of the energy goes into screen time rather than building real skills or relationships in that sense it’s not far-fetched at all it just wears a different face compared to the classic type that ends in debt and financial ruin.

The treatment should be different because money isn’t the root issue here instead the focus has to be on time management habit restructuring and finding healthier outlets that give the same excitement but without the endless loop parents teachers or even the individuals themselves need to set boundaries like fixed hours of play mixing in physical activities and rewarding real-world achievements the key is not necessarily banning the games completely but rebalancing life so that gaming doesn’t swallow everything else.

Gambling addiction without money? The only thing that could support this idea is gambling on a demo account, because you're playing with play money. But honestly, I believe very few, if any, people are addicted to gambling on demo accounts. Simply put, logically, the thing that makes someone addicted to gambling is the opportunity to win money.

So that doesn't make sense. I think it's more accurate to say that addictions that don't involve the risk of losing money are addictions to games other than gambling, such as common internet games like Dota or PUBG.

Gambling addiction without losing money can be called a type of gaming where a gambler or a gamer will only waste time.
Currently, a large portion of the young generation is addicted to online games. The time they spend playing them is actually more dangerous than the addiction itself.
Currently, a large part of the young generation is busy with Free Fire and they spend a large part of their academic studies on this game. It can be said that we are addicted to the game without losing money.

When the word addiction comes to something, we mean unhealthy obsession. You are indulge in something so much that you are unable to do your regular chores, financial activities and social responsibilities. Addiction is an unhealthy state of mental health. And every addiction are bad without exception.
Even the obsession of watching videos on your pre paid internet can be addiction. The addiction you are talking about might not lead to financial losses directly but it affects your overall well-being. This might not be as severe compared to gambling addiction with loss of money but still a problem worth tackling sooner to get rid of it.

I think there is one condition that gambling addiction exists without any money lost in total. That is when a person, in the state of gambling addiction, hits a jackpot that covers all his losses.  But I believe this situation will be temporary since there will be a point in time where, due to gambling addiction or compulsive gambling, the profit from that jackpot win will eventually run dry, and this is far from the example @OP had given, which is technically not a gambling addiction but rather a gaming addiction.

We have seen several cases of what I have stated, where a gambling addict who won a jackpot that offsets his previous losses eventually comes back to losses and will have a much worse gambling addiction.  So I think the scenario where a gambling addict does not lose money is somehow non-existent in the long run.

I play Dota 2, but only to chat with friends and have fun in the game. We share the goal of winning, and so on. The main thing I want to say is that I don't lose money there, although I do lose my time. Gambling is different, even too different. If we start playing too furiously and passionately under the influence of emotions, we can lose a lot, which will significantly affect our lives; we might not even have enough money for food. I remember when I was playing a long time ago and knew little about emotional control, the game got me so caught up in it that I would desperately try to win back my losses no matter what. I just didn't know that losing is part of the game and should be taken with dignity and calm.

OP what you seem to not understand is that, gambling addiction has done more harm than good. About 80% who are addicted to gambling are ruined emotionally, financial and otherwise. I hardly can see someone who got addicted in a positive way. I maybe wrong yes, and there are people who may have been addicted that got good wins in the end. However, the majority carries the vote, as long as most population of addicted have been ruined by addiction, we dont see it as a good thing and we can never see it that way.

This is the first time I've heard such a statement about gambling addiction: "experiencing a gambling addiction without losing money." I was quite taken aback by this statement because I know that addiction is detrimental, encompassing many things, including financial loss. So how can I say someone is addicted if they haven't lost money gambling?

I don't quite understand this statement, even though you've explained it. An addiction can be called an addiction when someone gambles excessively and uncontrollably. If someone doesn't lose money gambling, in other words, their gambling is well-controlled and doesn't cause serious problems, especially financial ones.

But do you know that no matter how much expertise and experience a person has about gambling, they won’t say that they will not lose in the gambling even once, talkless the person that has gotten addicted to gambling. So in this case I will not agree that till when a person is losing money, he/she will have the issue with the gambling addiction.

We all know that everything about gambling is a matter of luck, but remaining lucky in getting profits all the time is what will be difficult. It is possible that there are some times that some people will be lucky to get profits all the time, but when the gambling turns upside down, they will regret being addicted to the gambling.

You are right, however, we more often see gambling addiction having negative impacts. Either emotionally or financially. But the gambling addiction referred to by the OP is related to free games without bets. So there may be no hope of winning. Whether it is gambling or games played by children on mobile devices. If what is played is something free, financially, it may not be affected at first. But over time, I think the behavior of the addict can become quite severe as their emotional state changes.

But both are equally detrimental even though the losses are different. Both are mentally damaging, don't say that teenagers who are addicted to online games only make it difficult for them to be in school or in social adaptation, most teenagers who are addicted to online games will experience eye problems, at a young age they have to wear glasses and have difficulty focusing and even become prone to tantrums when stopped, even though they don't experience any financial losses but their future is at stake.

Well, I think here that losing or winning money is not the main issue for casino platforms. The main issue is time, because if you give time to play free games on their platform, but in the future you will start playing their paid or real gambling. Maybe before this in another post I said the same thing that "Little grains of sand, little drops of water, make the mighty ocean and the pleasant land". Similarly, I think that as you said, those who gamble without money will definitely become addicted to gambling after a few days. Because that's how our brain works, that is, where we spend more time, our brain will want to go.

It is impossible for a gambling addict not to lose. Because in this case, if someone has good luck and keeps making profits, then his motivation will increase and he will consider himself very lucky and successful and because of this he will keep betting on bigger amounts to win something bigger. And someone's luck will never be regular, if he wins one day, he will lose for a few days. And his addiction will completely lose his money including the profit of that one day. It will never happen that someone will gamble addicted but will not lose. At least I do not believe it. This is just a fantasy. In reality, this never happens.

Me too mate, he also stated that teenagers play some video games that are free of charge and it should refered to as a gambling without loss of money since it's free, now my question is, how is it gambling when staking money or a valuable is not involved? Also, not all teenagers are allowed to gamble when I mean gamble I don't mean playing free online slot games or casino related games I mean staking cash on casino or sports booking platform or valuables on a two aside betting that doesn't involve any platform but a middle man as third party and the rightful age for doing that is 18+ and not all teenagers so he should be specific.

I believe there’s a mixed on discussion here regarding addiction on games and gambling. There’s some addiction that doesn’t involved money yet both have same effect that user wants to keep coming back to play more.

I believe that’s the addiction that you can’t loss but I doubt that can be considered as gambling unless person is spending a huge number of playing time that sacrifices already their daily life.

In that case, it’s same already with gambling addiction that they are risking their time on games instead of be more productive.

An addicted gambler will always have a reason to lose money because he gambles more often and can't avoid losing the more he's gambling for any reason, which such could be as a result of chasing after loss or wanted to earn a living with gambling, while an ordinary gambler that loses money don't have to be addicted because of losing a bet, anyone can fall under this without being an addicted gamblers, this is how I see it and from the aspect common and applicable to most gamblers irrespective of the conditions.

It seems that everything we are lamenting of gambling addiction some of us is yet to understand what we meant by gambling addiction,
Let me clarify some of us,

Neither you are making wining in gambling or losing frequently, it's not what gambling addiction is all about, when we says gambling addiction, it meant that you can't do without gambling

Someone who gambles regularly and also record wining almost all what he or her stakes in gambling, it's obvious that such person is a gambling addict, even though you loses all your stakes you are still a gambling addict

Provided that it's something that you do often in gambling, that means you're addicted in the gambling...for example, someone who drinks every day, or smokers almost every time, I believe that such persons is addict that person is addicted in both things I made reference to, because they can't do without them.

I don't find it necessary to differentiate these two because I believe that if you are not yet losing money now but you know you are already addicted to gambling, it will only be a matter of time before you start losing money too.
Are there really kids who get addicted to free gambling? I do not think so. They might get addicted to games which is a different thing than gambling already but I have not heard of a kid getting addicted in free games.

And in such scenario, that can only be called game addiction, and not gambling addiction, simply because the individual was addicted to a game, and since it didn't involve money, it can't be classified as gambling. Because the truth of the fact is that before any game can be called gambling, it has to have the potential of money risk, either from the gambler or casino.


There is actually no type of gambling addiction whereby a gambler won't lose money, because if there is no money involved, then it can literally be classified as game addiction, of which we have lots of people who are truly addicted to several games, such as the likes of "Grand Theft Auto Vice City, FIFA 2025 Soccer,  Call of Duty" and more other PS5 games.

Gambling without money is just gaming and even for the sake of argument we can consider the person is having an unlimited amount of money in his bank account still it is going to bring some bad changes that will affect his everyday working schedule. If one who does something with no time limit then it is a dange sign that the person needs to address and make necessary changes as soon as possible before it is too late and gambling addiction can cause financial damage but it's less likely to affect brain with chemical changes compared to drugs or other substance intake form.

Even now, there are many types of games that also push users to spend a lot of money to buy certain items or skins, although there is a fundamental difference between them and gambling. So, if there are people who are addicted to gambling but aren't losing money, I think the number must be very small, and only if they truly have above average skills.

Betting on sports might be one way to do this, for example a single bet on PSG winning Ligue 1 for a whole season. Even if PSG loses a few matches during the season, with the same and consistent bet amount, the wager will most likely still be profitable.

Then why you call it gambling addiction without loss of money? it should be GAMING addiction, without letter "L" they only play a game, not staking any money. Of course it's possible many people to fall to gaming addiction, I know some men who isolate themselves on their room in order to play game the whole day.

It's no longer gambling addiction if the player not losing any money.

Gambling addiction and video game addiction are two different things. Although they may seem similar, the big difference is that with gambling addiction, there are usually losses of money and more serious problems, and it is assumed that both are treated differently. These are not the only ones, but there are also addictions to mobile devices. I think the latter is the most recent of all.

When we talk about gambling it has do with staking money or properties with that intention of making profit knowing fully well that it's possible to end up losing. When there's no risk involved then it's not gambling, what you made mention of is just a fun activity people get involved in, there is no such thing as gambling without loss of money. Gambling itself means wagering what you have to get more anything asides this isn't gambling

The reality about gambling addiction is that it has done more harm than good to the majority of people because most gambling addicted people are people that mostly rely on the gambling to earn a leaving or to survive, that is why they are addicted to the gambling because they are always hopeful that they will make it one day, and they are losing money as a result of that because they are not in their full mindset betting since they are desperate to make huge amount of money.

While people that gamble responsibly are mostly not addicted to gambling because most of them gamble for passion and they have other jobs doing which they use gambling as side hustle, so they always don’t take it serious since they only do it for fun.

gambling is the name given to games of chance where you place money on the line. in a game where you regularly place money on the line, after a certain period of time, you will either lose or win money based on the game's predetermined rtp rate. since the rtp of all gambling games is less than 1 for the casino's advantage, it is inevitable that someone who gambles continuously (i'm referring to games like slots, blackjack etc.) will lose money. this could happen from day one, after one month, or even after one year. but eventually, your net monetary change will turn negative.

if it doesn't fit the definition i gave at the beginning, meaning there is no money at risk, then what you are doing is not gambling. it is simply a game. it should not be called a gambling addiction.

I don't think it is possible for there to be a gambling addict without loss. When a gambler is addicted to gambling, the person is willing to do anything to gamble which include gambling with what they can afford to lose. So talking about gambling addiction without lose is something that is not possible because even gamblers that are not addict still incur loses while gambling talk less of an addict. Talking about time, time they said is money so if an addicted gambler is losing time instead of money. I think it is still the same thing as loosing money.

Growing up there's this game I love playing most of my free time, even some time I am busy too I also make out time to plant this game on my phone, it's free I don't pay money. Sometimes my and my friends at that time we normally connect and play the same games from our phones. I got attracted to this game to a point I even play it even when my parents sent me on an errand. Because money is not involved I toke it as normal thing not knowing I was addicted to the game. I mostly don't like it when my friends win me.
Even till not, when I go to the field to play football with my commuting friend I do not enjoy the game when our opponents win my teams and it makes me want to play the next day too.
But I don't feel same when I bet with money and lose, because I know if I do. I will make a huge financial mistakes.

Well, I think if an individual is addicted to a particular thing which makes the individual lose out on some certain opportunities or prevent the individual from completing some task which would be beneficial to him in the near future then such person is gambling. He’s gambling with his time and future. It’s not necessarily mean he’s placing money on it, as far he’s wasting time that he’s meant to have used in doing something more productive and beneficial to him. Some persons are addicted to playing the online games, of which money isn’t placed but the time wasted in doing it is detrimental also because most persons especially kids can’t really get their eyes off it and I’ve seen most persons miss attending lectures or very important engagements/seminars due to the kind of addiction they have in playing those online games.

I would rather go with calling that type of addiction 'gaming addiction' than calling it 'gambling addiction' because, by my own definition, anything that you don't stake money on and expect to win something back from is not gambling; rather, it should be classified under the category of gaming, as we have those who are more deeply addicted to games than most gamblers are.

A gambler who is addicted will not escape losing money in it, because that addiction is what will always fuels his ambition to losing as he continues in gambling in the same pattern he has been used to, there's no profitability in gambling addiction, because we are not going to enjoy gambling at last due to the incidence of addiction in it, except we realized earlier and take action as necessarily applicable, while losing money is not because of addiction, anybody can gamble and lose the bet made, it's either a win or lose game play.

Nowadays the lines are blurred because many games involve some form of gambling, such that some countries classify those games as not video games but gambling related and are restricted to adult use or similar measures.
   Its become a very big industry to form a game with micro transactions in the shape of gambling in some shape or form.
  
  Wasting time itself is addictive, many habits are addictive as an alternative to hard work.   Takes an exceptional person to enjoy and prosper from their work especially or just good luck to find such a job.  We're all addicted to something but wasting time is very costly I'd agree, I'd always argue to limit time gambling as a form of self discipline and also likely to increase your odds of coming out winning just from keeping that rule.

Your explanation it's pretty clear, and they do exist. But those gamblers that have not had the experience before might think that addiction is all about losing money alone, without noing that addiction are happening in different ways. Despite the fact that we talked about how gamblers uses a huge amount of money and get addicted to gambling, doesn't mean that it is only money that can easily get someone addicted. However, just like few have mentioned how kids get addicted to video games that it is because once they are addicted, it becomes a very big problem for them to get away with it. Which would lead to losing opportunities, so both are quite different.

Addiction without losing money? Is that even possible? I think it’s rare, about as rare as players with an overall positive profit. The only example I can think of is P2A, which is usually free but requires a lot of time and effort. It often takes a long while before a token lists, and only then will you know if you actually made something or just wasted your effort. If it’s pure gaming, I think that’s easier to overcome, because once you set your priorities, you’ll naturally play less. Gambling addiction is different from gaming addiction coz it involves money, greed.

There's no such thing like gambling addiction without lost of money, Infact lose of money to some bring addiction in the sense that some people's addiction is as a result of them losing money that they're trying to recover that brought them to become an addicted gambler.

You're making Alot of sense in this your statement, but don't you think that this set of gamblers you considered as ordinary gamblers are those responsible gamblers? Because according to the topic " addiction without loss of Money"  I think I'm a little bit confused because I don't see how someone will be addicted to gambling without losing his money, if you look at the word "addiction" it means something you're doing beyond control. So if you're not gambling the way you're supposed to gamble of course you will keep losing more money, so i have come to say that addiction is addiction once you're addicted to gamble be rest assured that you're going to loss more money.

I think I prefer to call this illustration a gaming addiction than gbling addiction without loss of money, because from the gambling hat I know you're always going to loss money regardless of what you do and how you do it but for the teenage addictions to gaming, I it it's just aere addiction and not gambling specific addiction. for gambling addiction money is highly involved consciously or unconsciously because they have to be using money to gamble in the first place and knowing that the casino is always in profit in gambling then it's a loss of money gambling. So it's probably a very difficult distinction for me but definitely a new one for me.

Technically if you are not wagering money how's that gambling? Playing video games isn't similar to gambling unless they are actually putting money on the line otherwise it's just a fun activity...Gambling without a loss of money isn't really gambling, this doesn't exist...it's called gambling because you need to take a risk, even though it's possible for it to still be entertaining you can still end up losing

That's true. Everyone who gambles involves money, whether they win or lose it. But, of course, losing money is more common. This is why many people become addicted to gambling, chasing wins to recoup losses from previous gambling. I don't understand how anyone could be addicted to gambling and not lose money; it's simply impossible.

It all comes back to the mindset of each individual, especially the mindset of teenagers, because in my opinion nowadays the average age of gamblers is from teenagers to adults, so in terms of social focus, teenagers are not really able to manage their emotions & the time they spend gambling, so this can still become a serious addiction that requires a special emotional approach in order to be able to control themselves more in gambling, even though gambling is done without loss or loss of money.

That's my first thought. Because if you are not wagering money, then, it is not gambling. Unless, you are wagering other items of value. But if not, then, I won't call it gambling or is not really considered as gambling per se. So I don't think anyone can say, you are gambling addict without any loss, money or of items of value. I don't think anyone can also be addicted if nothing is lost from them. Maybe, the person is just having fun and with such, he doesn't have to worry as he is not losing anything of value.

Gambling addiction without loss of money happens only on short run, that is, on the beginning of the gambler's journey. It doesn't have a fixed length of time and it will be always different for each gambler, but we know that sooner or later the gambler will always face a harsh loss, which hardly ever can be recovered through further gambling sessions. The tendency is that he loses more and more if he continues trying to overcome the casino.

For that reason, gambling addiction is heavily related to losses, and if it's not for a minority of gamblers, we can say it's not yet, but anytime soon it will be.

If someone is addicted to something, they have to be in that possession whether it's an activity or a stuff that they have been obsessed with. And in gambling, money is the main thing needed by a gambler in order to gamble. Although some might offer no money involved but just sets of the games that a casino allows to be played. There is no fun in that and instead of gambling, you'll just go with some esports games that you can get addicted with. but it's likely that you'll also fall for sports betting in those games because it is common nowadays that esports are also involving betting.

I have said it before that what pushed people to be addicted in gambling is because of lost, because when you have not lost in gambling you will not be committed, the reason why many more is committed in gambling that makes them to be addicted is out of chasing their lose, ordinarily you can't see anyone be addicted in the gambling, because people who is addicted in the gambling almost 80% of them are people who have lost much in gambling, and nobody who is addicted in gambling without reason, that's what I have observed, I have interview so many persons who doesn't know that it's addicted in gambling why they are gambling regularly, almost all gave me a similar answer.

It will exist when getting addicted to games, but when it talks about gambling, that is impossible. In fact, we know that gambling is all about winning and losing. Therefore, it is impossible to escape from losing even if you are a responsible gambler. There is no way to get out of it unless you stop gambling altogether. Once there is money involved, the only thing that happens is whether we lose or win. And we can't change this because that is what gambling looks like.

We can't escape losing but we can minimize it. And I agree to you that we can't change this fact that there's only these choices and results when we gamble, either we win or lose but don't forget about breaking even. So that makes three. Gambling has always been with money and someone that has to be addicted to it means that they've lost a lot already and there is a need for them to stop when it is too much and out of control. But the question starts there if they can?

Gambling is all about staking a bet which involves finance, if you are not placing a bet with money, then I don't really see that as gambling, because you gamble with what you can afford to lose, and remember that gambling involves placing money, or something valuable on a random event with the aim of winning more money, or something of greater value, and so gambling addiction without losing more can't be seen as gambling, instead we say that person is only practicing in how to gamble and be perfect about it ,so that in line to really gamble he will know what to do and not be a novice or lost in the gambling world, because the reality of gambling involves money, it is different entirely learning offline and the reality of physical gambling involving yourself in casinos or betting shops.

Online gambling without fun has no side effect compare the real gambling, in the addiction of that, it can be easily seen and controlled by the family members .

Addiction not only destroys economically, gambling addiction pushes people to destruction in various ways, mentally, physically, financially. Therefore, it is most important to follow the strategy of each person to overcome addiction. I am most addicted to online games, if I enter online games with a small amount of money. However, I like slot games more and I am more attracted to social media.
But I have been able to reduce the symptoms of addiction a little by following some rules every day, I spend 20 minutes less than the time I used to spend on social media and online. In this way, I have been able to gradually reduce the symptoms of my addiction.

And whatever the addiction is it will not be good, not only in gambling but in some other platforms like games
and the like that makes a person too over in playing and devoting all the attention and money to the thing that makes him addicted.

Gambling may have a bit of a negative side, as more people become addicted because of games that make them expect to win big, like Slot games.

But if you still have control or are able to overcome the addiction you have experienced, it is not easy, and it takes time to get used to it.
Overcoming addiction and gradually reducing gambling is necessary, by having specific rules that must not be broken and the allocation of money that must be strictly enforced.

Gambling always about money and we all know that the chance of gamblers to lose money is bigger than the chance to win money. Even without addiction, normal gamblers will lose some money so how can gamblers become addicted without losing money? It is impossible to happen because addiction is when someone has lost their control on what they do including time and money.

Gambling without loss of money or that you won’t use your money to play, is the same as just playing games. According to stats on profitable gamblers I don’t think something like this exists, if you are referring to people who are only using the demo feature to play then it’s no different from kids or youths playing video games just that theirs is now being done in a gambling site.

I don’t know if others are of a different opinion but I do strongly believe that nothing like this exists, it’s the emotional strain and stress that comes with losing money or the emotions of wanting to chase after what you’ve lost that contributes to gambling addictions making it difficult to overcome and if that’s not available and the games are just being played like that it would be too boring for anyone to stay long enough to get addicted to it.

I think that, you are forgetting something gambling in this concept is not people that play video games or even computer games online those people can't be called as gambler's. Gambling in this context implies using your hard earned to to gamble with the hope of making more money, so there can't be a gambling addiction without losing of money because gambling involves money.

I rarely encounter risk-free gambling addiction, many people are addicted to gambling with many losses, gambling addiction with no losses sounds good, but for human nature it is not challenging at all and is not even exciting to play, this is the reason it is difficult to find, very different from gambling addiction with risks

Playing free game without money or anything but just for fun is not gambling, because gambling all about staking something inorder to get something that’s not certain in returns so Aslong they are not staking or betting anything they are not gambling at all . So gambling addiction with loss not sure is possible because those that are not even addicted to gambling still experience losses too.

We cannot call it gambling if there's no money involve on what we are playing since we are not trying our luck to win and hit some prizes. Its just a simulation if we don't put any real bets on those games we  are currently playing.

But I don't think that people would enjoy this since its really boring if we don't have any chance to win big that's why this situation is not addicting. The main factor on why people got affected is those thinking that later on or some day they can pull a massive win on the casino and what they are thinking is they need to be consistent betting to be in that situation. Then with this gambling addiction develop and its worse if the person cannot handle this condition.

Yes, if it's just a game without money, then we can't call it gambling, it's simply entertainment that doesn't involve winning or losing. On the one hand, I don't always want to play for money, sometimes I just want to play a game. When I bet money, it's something different. I want to experience the thrill and win, whereas when I play a game, I don't want to worry about losing, it's just for fun, so, for me, there's a significant difference.

For me, it's a huge difference. Playing without betting real money, which will ultimately impact your life positively or negatively, is simply fun, and that's precisely why millions of players play. But I'd get bored of playing for a couple of hours and want to find something more interesting. If I want to play and kill time, I'd prefer to play computer games with friends, but they'll be very interesting, like Dota 2 or CS, but they won't be gambling without money. That's my opinion, and I sincerely don't understand those who gamble with play money; their interest won't last long.

You're right, if we can't betting with real money it means that we are not gambling. And yeah is just like playing since you're not expecting any outcome apart from the fun you're going to get while playing the game, so any activity that don't require putting our money is not supposed to be considered as gambling. Maybe just normal play that we usually feel excited while playing it, no strange feeling attach.but in gambling you can't get excited all the time Due to the loses that always occur, Sometimes you can feel excited while the following day you feel depressed.

Gambling addiction without money is still seen as addiction; it may not be as negative as that involving money, but it will cause you problems in one way or another.

It can consume all your time that you should invest in other things, so gambling without money is still addictive and can also lead you to lose many things. The reason why gambling with money can be dangerous is that when people are addicted to it, they may engage in many strange behaviors that can cause a lot of damage.

It's not really gambling unless there is real money profit and loss.  ::)
Are you asking whether or not people get addicted to gambling simulations? That might be more interesting to explore.

I have never heard of someone addicted to gambling but not losing money. I have never encountered a situation where you participate in gambling but you do not lose or profit. Especially if you are addicted to any gambling, especially sports betting, poker, dice, bankroll, whatever it is called, you cannot participate in these for free. Since it is related to money, you can never be addicted to gambling. If you participate in any casino or gambling for free, it is nothing more than mere entertainment.

Yeah it's called gambling because you stake something in return of something. Without a stake then it's not a gamble. You must put in money or property anything below that is just fun. At times I see people in game center making a vibal staking without dropping cash. Such thing can't be regard as gambling.  And it won't also trigger addiction because you're not losing anything for it.

We play gambling to multiply our stake , and when it goes the other way we keep trying till we win and when you don't win and you keep losing then it will lead to addiction. To avoid addiction you must learn how to endure losing and knowing when to take break. Because gambling is a lucky game, and one's luck can't shine everyday.

Addiction without use of money is gaming addiction and this has been a discussed disease among the medical community.

There are people who can manage this problem without any professional help. But once it changes to money making and similar things there will be problems to face.

But I think those who are into gaming it does not necessarily translate to gambling addiction as well. Most of them are ardent gamers and that is their passion.

There is no gambling without loss, therefore when being addicted you have more losses. It is normal in any gambling setting that there most be loss if no loss, then it's not gambling .
This is a wrong mindset and that is why alot of persons involve themselves in gambling thinking that they can't lose their money but only win but at the end of the day, they are stocked without winning and when their thought's are not met they start chasing their losses and becomes addicted because they want to get all their money spent on gambling, that is the first major causes of addiction in gambling, and unless we believe that we must lose in gambling then we are not sincere to ourselves.

But when we say gambling without loss of money happens among the children and I believe that is where gambling practices starts from, because the go to the game shop or their parents gets these games for them and they play indoors and gets used to it and forget every other things they have to do, including their academics, these type of gambling is a very bad one because you are not even gambling for money but for pleasure, and this pleasure makes you lost your mind and gets addicted putting your life and career at risk. Also our phones now days are also instruments used for that by the children .

If you not losing money, there are other things that can be equal Money that you lose from gambling addictions such as time and energy, this two things are very valuable and important to an individual, time is money so regardless if you do not lose physical cash but spend a lot of time gambling what should have given you money will be left undone and that is a bad outcome of addictions, so regardless of the money or not there are ways one can still lose by being addicted.

I stand with you here. Everyone has their own definition of gambling, but you can't define gambling fully without adding money involved in it, but even in gaming we also have winning and losing. Either you are playing it with your friends or competing with a computer, which is more difficult. You don't spend money to do it, which drops it only under the section of gambling, but once there is staking of valuables, then it's gambling.

Any one who is not losing money in gambling is on the winning side and they can't complain if they are spending time gambling if it is profitable for them but in a situation where the person is losing both money and wasting time or the person is not losing rather he's spending time that should be used to do other things in gambling it's also a very big problem. If you aren't losing money when you waste time it is also a way of losing money.

You got the point wrong mate, when the ops said not losing money, what he means is that, gambling without use of direct money from the gambler, like gambling on a free games, none money games, this way you gamble without money and your also doesn't win money even though you win the game, just like gambling on a demo accounts.

Nowadays it is seen that school children are always addicted to online games. They are not actually playing for money. They are playing games for free through mobile phones or computers. They get addicted easily. If you look at the village or the city, you will see that many minor children are tapping their mobile phones in such a way that they are not paying attention to what is happening around them and in front of them. In fact, this type of addiction is very serious. It does not take money to get addicted. Being addicted to this type of addiction, boys and girls are going down a bad path, they are quitting their studies and from here they are getting involved in gambling. Every family has to be aware to save them from this type of addiction. If every family is aware, it will be possible to save children from this type of addiction. Moreover, it is not possible to save children from all these addictions.

Although we evaluate gambling addiction through financial losses. However, addiction not only causes financial losses, but also other problems such as loss of control, distraction and neglect of important aspects of life. Apart from losing money, someone can also become addicted to gambling-like behavior. This affects mental, social and educational life. In addition, there are many online games that are casino-type, but even though there is no real money involved, today's children and adolescents spend time in them. Although there is no loss of money and no risk, they are suffering from mental damage. As a result, their educational ability, skills and self-control are being reduced. Therefore, even if there is no financial loss, there is no room to view it as a trivial problem.

What I know about addiction in general is they can't just do without a particular thing. It possible that there is a determinantal effect it's having or them or it's having none but addiction is addiction whether it's having a good impact or a bad impact. For instance, someone that can't do without taking a coffee in night is an addition, when someone becomes to addiction with taking of cold things, it's an addiction even if it might not affect their body or system.

The reason why we do see gambling that way is because it's the obvious one here and the one we do talk about frequently. There are other toxic addiction outside gambling such as alcohol, if abuse it can cause liver failure, smoking addiction if abuse can cause lung failure and many more. Gambling addiction can be good and can be bad, if you are making money that's when you will see the good side but if you are not, then you are on the wrong path.

Due to excessive gambling addiction, most people have lost their financial assets, so gambling addiction is considered to be a bad for losing money. However, whether you lose money or not, everyone should always keep their mental state under control. If you are too greedy, there is a possibility of loss. Gambling as entertainment is okay, but if you bet your required money on gambling, it will definitely create a bad situation. There are many people when they lose by betting their required money and face financial loss, then they take more risky decisions to bet to recover their previous money. In this way, the financial condition of a person is completely destroyed. Then he takes loans from many places and starts betting on gambling, and at some point he cannot get out of this unnecessary situation. Then he suffers a lot of physical and mental damage. To come back from such a situation, it is necessary to see a mental doctor and through proper counseling, it is possible to bring an addicted person back to a normal life.

A gambling addict will force a person to gamble in any way and he will continue gambling with great pleasure. No matter how much he loses, he will never care. And if you gamble regularly, losses are inevitable. It will never happen that someone is addicted to gambling and gambles a lot but he does not lose. no one has yet been able to figure out a strategy that will allow you to gamble without losing.

Now, from school students to poor rickshaw drivers and big businessmen, everyone is addicted to gambling. And everyone thinks that gambling is an easy way to earn income. No one thinks that gambling is entertainment anymore. This saying is useless now. Everyone thinks that gambling is a very good place to earn income. And many people are getting ruined by jumping into it.

But all these addictions you list require money, and even that goes beyond the gambling we're discussing here. As for video game addiction, which the OP mentioned above, I don't think it's bad or a problem. Most often, it's just a waste of time, but sometimes people can even make money by leveling up their characters and then selling artifacts or renting out their accounts, so it could even be a hobby that can generate additional income.

I have never heard the term gambling addiction without loss of money. I always thought that gambling addiction come with losing money and that's why it's called addiction,  because you can't stop it and you keep losing money from it.
If there is really a gambling addiction that you don't lose money, then I think that's a good one, but I don't think it's possible,  because once they say you are addicted to gambling,  you must definitely be losing your money.

I believe that kind of addiction exists and it is prevalent in games which gambling-like mechanics, but players do not actually risk their money or capital. Actually, that is one of the main reasons nowadays it is very difficult to find casino mini games in videogames aimed towards children and teens.
Those kind of addiction which do not actually involve any financial loss are easily treated than classic gambling addiction in which the gambler itself is sustaining significant loss of their savings, since there is still money available in the hands of the patient, it is easier to access to mental healthcare. When there is no money left, the addicted person is at the mercy of social services which come free of charge

Because obvious reasons, addiction to gambling-lile mechanics is not taken as seriously as actual gambling addiction, but it could still be a problem for many young ones.

It is not possible to agree with the statement that you can be addicted to gambling without incurring financial losses. Because if you are addicted to gambling, even if you make a profit in the beginning, you will still find that you have suffered financial losses in the end because when greed arises in you due to addiction, you will start playing recklessly and then you may suffer financial losses. The gambling system itself is designed in such a way that whenever you get addicted to the hope of profit and play recklessly, you will suffer financial losses. Therefore, it would be foolish to think that you will not face financial losses despite being addicted to gambling.

An addicted gambler will always gamble and there's no way you can be this frequent in gambling and never have records of losses, aside the fact that we all know how gambling is more of taking risk to play bets, so there's no way an addicted gambler will be into gambling without having a serious challenge of losing more as he continues in same pattern of playing his games, except he try to apply a change for better considerations on the manner he gambles.

It's really rare to believe that gambling addiction exists without loss of money.Although, there's got to be other means like using non-monetary stakes to gamble.But that notwithstanding,gambling can still be addictive because of the constant circles of risks that it comes with.

Because it is impossible to see addicted gamblers who are not losing money, even non addicted gamblers are losing in gambling so how is it possible to see addicted gamblers without losing money?
It is only possible to happen in overall statistic, for example an addicted gambler won a huge jackpot after so many years of being addicted and the jackpot recover all what he had lost then this gambler decided to stop.
However this is so rare thing to happen, maybe like 1 in million only.

Gambling is addictive regardless of the financial situation of a gambler. It's mostly the reason why they gamble and that's to have a better financial standing. But to think of being addicted without having anything to lose, that's sort of hard to imagine. With some proper explanation and ideas that we can understand of how it can happen, we'd say that it could also a possible thing. So it might not be just all about the money but also the effects of it and how it can affect the gambler afterwards.

Gambling without risks isn't a gambling anymore. Tbh, gambling is gambling because of how your risk a valuable thing like money so a gambling without the involvement of money is pretty rare. And I also doubt that a simple game can't trigger any addiction. The reason why we get addiction is because of the thrill that involve risks, the chasing of wins and of course, the feeling during the games. So again, gambling really requires risk, involves money or something valuable you can stake.

Is gambling defined without financial risk? The definition of gambling is to be directly or indirectly involved in a sport with financial risk. When you are playing or enjoying a sport without money, it is considered only as sports enjoyment. It is not called gambling in essence, so there is no question of gambling addiction. Without money, you are playing some game just for entertainment which is not part of gambling, if you play that game with financial risk then it is gambling and there is a possibility of gambling addiction. The games that we are used to in childhood are the games played in gambling halls, but that with financial risk.

Yes, I also think that if we don't put something valuable at stake, something socially recognized, then the frenzied excitement won't happen. Sure, many of us played poker with friends for play money, but it was just fun and a little bit of excitement. But the real game begins when each of these players comes home and plays with their hard-earned money, earned through hard work. It's obvious to everyone that every player wants to win. Besides, they've earned not only money but also prestige among other players, proving themselves to be the luckiest.

yes, in fact, no one ever thinks that behind a game like this there must also be a bit of responsibility and self-love, the first respect is for oneself, those who play compulsively cannot manage anything in life, much less the game.
Those who play at these levels do not understand that this ultimately leads to a problem and a never-ending spiral, and losses are the lesser evil.

That term gambling is used when you stake an amount of  money, either an amount you can afford to lose or an amount that's beyond your limit, this differs for different gamblers. Gambling without risks isn't considered to be gambling anymore because there's is no such thing as doing this without loss of money. What you are probably referring to are just hobbies people engage in asides gambling

Addiction or no addiction, losses are inevitable when it comes to gambling, even the responsible and experienced gamblers lose money, new gamblers lose money, old gamblers lose money, so how exactly is it possible for an addicted gambler to no lose money.
Except of course the gambler is only playing on demo mode for fun and then eventually got addicted on the process, which is actually possible, it’s just like being addicted to video games, this way you don’t actually lose money directly, but you lose a lot of valuable time that if Invested in something meaningful could actually make you some money, so either ways, you’re still losing money, directly or indirectly.

Judging by the fact that it is also another form of addiction, it should be treated with seriousness. I was literally wondering what other forms of addiction that doesn't result to a loss, that we could possibly have. Though, this type of gambling addiction does not exist because it doesn't fit into the word 'gambling'. Gambling has to do with staking of something with worth, which doesn't actually classify this type of gambling.

But I can't deny the fact that these addictions are real, especially in this era where the younger ones have more access to devices and Internet. And it can get so ugly because these teenagers are always online, especially with their friends.

Gambling addiction without loss of money? Is still gambling when you don't wager money or properties? Because what we all know as gambling is staking money or valuable assets for profit and this mostly comes with losses especially if you are addicted. If people get involved in engaging in their favorite hobbies then that is not gambling. If people are addicted to playing video games and other fun activities then it isn't much of a problem

What is the the addiction when you are not losing money, because what makes us to believe that gambling addiction is so bad is the money that those addicts lose without control and how they eventually becomes indebted because of the lose and taking loans, aside from this, there are few other aspects that gambling addiction bring such as anxiety and anger issues, this one are not commonly known in most cases of addictions.

You made me think of something from your comment that " you thought that gambling addiction comes with losing of money" but my mind just told me that you can still be an addict and yet you don't lose money anyhow. Addict simply means one been used to a particular thing and now you been addicted to gambling doesn't mean you are always losing money it is possible that an addict can still be making money in gambling and I think what causes addiction is frequent losing and frequent winning, if you are losing frequently you might be tempted to gamble to get back your money and if you are winning steady you will also be tempted to gamble to win more.

In fact, it is impossible to believe.  How could someone with an uncontrolled urge to gamble cannot lose any money?  Even if the guy is winning since he has no control, he will not stop until his bankroll is depleted.



No it won't be gambling, if there is no stake, risk and reward, it will be just a game.  Like playing a game of cards without any bet, it won't be called a gambling but a game of cards.




True and that is the definition of gambling.


What if the person's hobby is betting on sports?  Isn't that gambling?  Do you mean any hobby that does not include staking money to get a reward?


It is still a problem, did you know there are lots of students who dropped out of school because they got addicted to video games?  See this reply (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5560249.msg65847677#msg65847677) from @yahoo62278

You raised a good point, but it’s also important to note that gambling addiction is not just all about the money,  but it’s also about the behavioral pattern and most importantly the mental state, that's in line with the activity. When regular gambling involves staking money or valuables, addiction can occur even when no money is lost, especially in cases like bet most, for eg, most gambling sites give free bet mostly to their first time user's. Most people get addicted to the rush of winning, with is actually a wrong step to take when betting, regardless of how much money is involved.
So I would actually say yes, money loss is a major consequence of gambling addiction, but the main problem lies in the behavior and inability to stop, which can still exist even without using money to gamble.

I think you probably didn't read the opening post before writing this post because if you had done that, you wouldn't say this thing. The OP is talking about people playing gambling games with no monetary commitment, which means playing gambling games that are free and doesn't require you to use any money, but getting addicted to those games, which is then called gambling addiction without loss of money, and I totally disagree with this for so many reasons.

The first reason why I disagree with this is because it's not gambling when you are only playing a game, even if it's a gambling game. The word gambling means to gamble with something, something valuable that you can either lose or win something else with it. If you are playing a game that is free, even if it's generally used for gambling, that can't be called gambling but it's simply gaming, and if you make bets on a game that isn't generally used for gambling, you are still gambling.

 

Gambling without money is like playing  casual game . In gambling there will always be win and loss is literally inevitable and money or something valuable must be stake in order to be call gambling or betting

The only thing one can literally do as a gambler is to be responsible and know how to apply proper risks management and not to be delusional with wins like trying to make it big ones by staking something small and stuff .

Gambling addiction exist without loss of money my buddy. Have you seen gamblers that are bless, I mean the street OT gamblers that are well equipped with skills and knowledge of gambling and they make good money. It's not like they don't make loss in gambling, they do but overall they are money making gamblers than the usual gamblers we do see with addiction and there is no day that goes without them trying gambling even if it's to try game they are don't watch often.

I believe when they say addiction, it means something you can't go a day without trying out. That's what some people do in gambling, every blessed day they try one and two games together, some people called it cooking of odds and then bet what they can lose at that time, some of them are very good at skills, their overall daily turn out don't go below their risk rate, always ahead of the casino even though they lose money there is always another game to make back the money.

Gambling is always a risky game. Whether someone gambles as an addict or as a recreational gambler, there will be risks for everyone. But if there is a problem, if someone becomes addicted, the risk is much higher. There is a possibility of a lot of financial loss. I also gamble myself but I always keep it under control. I gamble with my money that I don't have a problem losing , so I don't accept it even if I lose. But I never gamble with more risky decisions to get that money back. Because I hold one thing in myself, that is, addiction is not profitable . In order not to become addicted, I change my style of play, set limits and make as many careful decisions as possible when I gamble. I have not suffered any serious losses so far and I try to be mentally stable all the time.

Oh, there's so much talk about gambling addiction. It's practically a favorite topic of discussion in this section. :)

I'd like to highlight a few points from your post and comment on them.

1 - No one (or almost no one) will play free online games (gambling), because it's boring and uninteresting without real money betting. I can only assume that only very young children will play these games, for whom any game is new and exciting. Teenagers very quickly switch from free gambling to paid gambling, and they'll bet money saved on school lunches.

2 - I wouldn't call "passion" for gambling without real money betting a gambling addiction, because this stage passes very quickly, and a gambler, "idle," will eventually come to real gambling with bets, and that's when the addiction can develop. It's easier for modern children to switch to computer games and waste their time fruitlessly, rather than free gambling. And here, in computer games, teenagers, I believe, can develop a gambling addiction similar to gambling addiction (with bets). And here, despite the lack of financial losses, there are many similarities with classic gambling addiction.

In summary, I dare to suggest that free online gambling prevents the development of gambling addiction due to the transience of this period, which leads a person to gambling with real money bets, at which point symptoms of gambling addiction may develop.

If you can accept the risks and always manage the risks not become big, you can accept anything that happens in gambling. You realize that gambling can cause you to lose big but with limitations, you will not face that instead just lose money you can afford to lose. You will not recover the lost money because you know that it will be difficult.

If you can use the money you can afford for gambling, you can enjoy your moment in gambling and will not try to recover your lost money. Changing your style of play, setting limits, and being careful in decisions will make you avoid from the addiction.

If you don't put any money into it, why would it be risky? As if playing cards without money, or chess or checkers, is risky. I completely disagree with what you say. The problem with gambling is that you use money; if there were no money to win or lose, it wouldn't be risky at all, in my opinion.
Then maybe I'm wrong, I'm not saying I'm necessarily right.

Would you be called a gambler if you have not gambled before? Of course no so actually before they must have been talking about gambling in the risky part of it is definitely for everyone who is currently gambling and not for people who are not. You are also right about your own opinion because anything that has a risk only affect those that's subject to it while those that doesn't take part isn't affected anyway. However if we should talk about lost I doubt if there is any gambler who has not loss money in it even if is not big because that is what reminds everyone that nobody is free from lost.

Excuse me, so in your opinion if i don't play poker for money i am not a player, or rather a poker player?
Maybe i am wrong, since i don't bet, but it seems like a strange definition to me
then if you tell me that betting without money makes no sense, i obviously agree with you

If I gamble without money, where would the gambling be?
It's called gambling because I'm risking something, in this case, money.
Otherwise, it would just be called a game, don't you think?
A game of chance without losing money is a game and has nothing to do with gambling.
A poker player who loves to play without money and does so constantly can at best be called a compulsive gambler, but not a gambling addict.
They are two very similar things, but in reality, completely different.

It doesn't matter if you're losing money or not, gambling addiction isn't different from what it's and all has equivalent negatives impact that's why they should be avoided by all means. You mightn't be losing money for now but with time it'll get to a stage that you can't help it anymore and you begin to lose money. Those free games have their advance forms that involves some purchases which when you start doing that, you'll begin to lose money. Why this type of addiction can be more dangerous is because it has already given you an Idea that it's safe hence when you start losing money. You won't know that's what's happening because you're already used to the Idea of gambling this way without any losses. Avoid being addicted to gambling is the best thing we can do for ourselves to avoid regrets on the future.

I'm starting to understand what you mean about the money, let's say that it's what justifies the thrill of the game and therefore without this sort of thrill the game becomes useless and not very fun
Well, how much do you think the thrill will change if you invest a little or a lot of money? It probably changes a lot.

You got a point there. You are talking things literally but what can we do? Gambling places just invented a way for the players that doesn't have a money to still gamble because they know that some still craves for it. Some games now do also have a lottery or gatcha feature and this also cost real money, so this can also be considered as a form of gambling.

Of course it is real even though we are only using fake/play money on here. People can miss it because they think it wasn't that alarming due to the said reason earlier and also because the number of people being addicted on gambling using real money is much more than it. Even on a gambling that involves real money, gamblers can as well dedicate a time, no wonder why it is more alarming because it is a double loss they got here.

The truth is that for me there would be no addiction to playing without losing money, because one of the things that moves us in emotions is gambling, risking money is what accelerates the adrenaline, and the fact that you play without betting money could have the effect of making it boring, so I think that if the person becomes addicted it is because they are already a very, very gamer, although it would be something very different.

A person can be said to be addicted to gambling if they gamble without limits, without regard for time, without considering the reasonable risk of loss, or gamble excessively, even though they are prioritizing more important things. So, if a gambler plays regularly and can recognize the losses they are experiencing, they cannot be called addicted to gambling. However, the important point is not that; the key is to always gamble within limits, gambling only for fun, not for profit. Because as long as you continue to enjoy gambling and continue to place bets, the possibility of developing a gambling addiction will always exist. Never let this pleasure turn into suffering.

Gamblers will continue to bet as long as they have money and spare time, but the amount of money they spend and the time they invest in gambling cannot be the main measure to consider them addicted. As long as they are not experiencing stress, not neglecting their obligations and work, and their lives are still fine, it can be assumed they are gambling responsibly, even though it must be acknowledged that the potential for addiction still exists.

In my opinion, the negative consequences caused by gambling are a better representation of addiction. If a gambler has quickly spent their savings, neglected their responsibilities in many areas, and even taken out loans to gamble, then I think that definitely constitutes addiction. I think this is different from someone who fundamentally treats gambling as a means to make money.

When it comes to gambling one can't get addicted without losing money, expect the person is not using money to place bets,if not so long you are addicted to something you will definitely loose money,I quite understand your point that one can actually get addicted through spending much time and energy on Many online games but I'm assuring you that once it's gambling related addiction the person involved must loose money.
Gambling must times is not entirely for fun because we gamble to make profit, though it's advisable you gamble with an amount you can freely loose,moverover getting addicted to gambling is not healthy to person because you can never safe any reasonable amount as all will be used in betting and most times you keep loosing and not winning.excess of everything they say is bad.

There must be something at stake before a game can be called gambling and the major reason why people troop more into gambling is the possibility of it giving wealth in one of the most effortless means and this generation don’t cherish hard work but preach more of smart work and making it seem like, hard work will get us nothing and now gamble came on to fill the gap of hard work for ease of getting financial break through by staking small amounts for a bigger reward if the game plays well.

Yes, a person who gambles with the consciousness of their losses can not be called gambling addicts because I believe such people already know what they’re doing and can be able to call themselves to order unlike the others who can’t as a result of their addiction.

They most be risk in gambling because you are chasing wining and putting your money to get more money. Gambling is risk and easy to play without too much stress but the only problem is that if you are already addicted he will definitely make you lose alot of money and won't make you focus on your self as a reasonable person. Anything that you play and you didn't lose inside we can't call that a risk. But anything that make you lose that is risk and is not possible that you gambling you won't lose, everyone lose sometimes when they gamble because is always unpredictable the way they said trading is unpredictable, that is how gamble is you can lose all your funds easily. that is the reason why is good to used funds that you are capable to lose and you should always give a free day that you won't gamble so that you won't be addicted and don't try to chase lose if you want to learn how to control your self.

While that is also a nice point sported out , though in gambling with addiction you will lose money yet nothing to show up that look at what you have benefits while gambling,but to those who is addicted with aid of gaining their are two things their though I choose to be addicted if am winning but not losing ,those who are addicted by winning all the time is there career because they can't do without gambling because they have tested it and it works that gambling is really feeding them putting  food on there table so I strongly believe that it will definitely work to be something better if you are addicted to it but not losing.

Without loss of money it is not even considered to.be gambling in the first place, you can simply call that a friendly game, But let's assume that a person gambles for non-monetary rewards like drinks,food and stuffs like that, if he or she gets really lucky from this consistently there would definitely be a need for them to start trying to stake money and this could lead to gambling addiction

Gambling entails using money to bet so I don't think that anyone can be talking about gambling without involving money, I have not seen a gambling activity that doesn't involve the use of money. Money is always the medium throw which the gambling process take place so I don't think that there will be ever be a situation when an individual will be addicted to gambling without losing of money.


Anyone who is not ready to spend money in gambling should not be thinking about gambling because, you will always lose money that is what they call paying for your entainment or enjoyment which gambling offers.

Is there anything like gambling addiction without loss of money?
I actually don't think or believe gambling addiction can exist without eventual loss because, in my view, gambling addiction inevitably leads to a significant financial, emotional or social losses if it is left unchecked. The nature of addiction often compel individuals to chase frequent losses, gamble impulsively, and loss control over their actions, and it definitely creates a chances or a cycle of worsening outcomes. Even if a gambler used to experience occasional wins, the behaviour will by any chance tied to addiction and it almost always results in more harm than good over time.

Exactly, that is gambling, it carries risk for, whether you are doing it small or doing it heavy.. The part you mentioned about controlling your play and only using money you are comfortable losing is a major one, and everyone needs to learn it, that is where most people fail…. They chase losses, panic, and then start making emotional decisions that just dig the hole deeper..

Setting strict limits is actually a smart move.. It shows you are aware enough to avoid that addiction trap..

Your statement is very accurate. Anyone who has experienced a gambling addiction has certainly experienced significant losses, so it's highly unlikely they haven't experienced financial losses. For some, chasing losses will have a negative impact on themselves in any case. We must always be able to control ourselves when gambling to avoid significant financial losses in the future.

Gambling addiction without loss of money is just a regular game like playing ps5 or something. Gambling actually means staking an amount of money to get a higher value reward, people gamble basically to get a reward or a multiplication of what they are staking if this isn't the case then it's not regarded as gamblng. There are also cases where people decide to stake other valuable things like gold, landed properties, phones and so on. This is actually what is referred to as gambling, you need to take a risk or put something on the line

Yes such gambling addiction is real, I have been in a situation like that in aviator, I don't really use big amount of money and I don't loose big amount of money as well, but after a while I can to realise that it doesn't only eat up my time it also makes me depressed knowing that I have not achieved anything the whole day.
This addiction is also very dangerous as well, it really affected me and made me exhausted alot of times, so I had to stop, but this one wasn't too hard to stop tho, unlike the gambling addiction whereby you loose a lot of money, to stop this type is not as hard. But what do you think, which one is harder for you to stop incase you have experience the both?

Don't assume shits here without stating your reason. You don't have to assume that anyone that has addiction have automatically experienced significant loses when you know that rich gamblers don't lose as much as the average gamblers do because of low capital they often use to gamble with high odds so that they can make some reasonable profits from their bets.

There is a meaningful distinction between gambling addiction with finanical loss and without. Gambling addiction without losing money definitetly exists. especially with online games and in-game betting systems. The harm her isnt financial but time, focus and mental health. people can spend hours daily, neglecting school, work or relationship, which can still have long-term consequences, well risks are different, i agree that the treatment approach should be different.

When gambling does not involve money, that can be seen as an ordinary playing of game. You can play games on casinos without any money and that should be for your better understanding of the games you are playing. When money is not involved in gambling, it will look like you are playing because no real money is attached. By the time a gambler decides to use money to gamble on casino, that will when he will see he difference between gambling without money and gambling with finance. Your money is what is going to help you to grab opportunity that will help you to make profits from your bets.

I don’t think this kind of gambling addiction exists, or maybe it’s just me that don’t know anything about it. I don’t think there is anyway addicted gambler won’t be losing money. As a gambler there is no way you can avoid loss, so just imagine how things will be for addicted gamblers. Addicted gamblers are always so desperate to make more money, so when gambling sometimes they are not always calm to do analysis before placing bet which they will end up losing. If you are addicted to gambling, there is no way you won’t be losing.

 ​Well overall to me, addiction is addiction either you put in money or not. That's why apart from gambling there are other things that one can get addicted to Still, most of them aren't gambling and if I must say the very concept of addiction comes from various facts, like not wanting to give up no matter what, or just telling yourself that there is nothing wrong in doing it......
​Yes gambling addiction without losing money exists. In fact most times people get caught up in playing a particular game all day without stopping. Eventually they are gambling to win the game when there is no money involved example of games like COD (Call of Duty).​Well overall  to me, anything that a person overdoes is called addiction. That's just it bro...

it is my first time to hear about that, perhaps he was referring to other medium of gambling asides from staking money but in my opinion these are harmless addictions, for example when you gamble with a group of friends on a snooker game and it is agreed that the loser would buy a drink, that is a healthy way to gamble because it won't cause much harm to you like when you are losing money

I feel it's the same thing. Whether, you lose your money to the casino or you lose it to your friend. The drink wouldn't change anything or make you feel as if you didn't lose any money because before your own eyes someone is using your losses the way he likes. I feel that's the most painful part in gambling. However, we might see it from a different perspective.

Same here, I'm a little bit confused with what op is trying to say because there's no addiction that will happen without loss of money because it's that money that we are losing that keep us going back even to the point of becoming addicted.  Honestly I have never heard about such addiction before and I doubt it if such thing exist because the gambling that I know is more of losses and the amount we are losing to gamble is What makes it very difficult to let go. Had it been there's no Loss of money in gamble no one would have been complaining about addiction because even if they eventually become addicted to gamble it won't have any effect on them.

There are different things which gamblers stake during gamble, but the major thing gamblers use to stake is money. This doesn't  mean that those gamblers that wagers with their properties don't also stake money.. This set of gamblers wager their properties and money too, after losing them they chase their losses in other to recover but at that point they also become addicted to gambling. Same thing goes with those irresponsible gambler that stake with fiat and crypto currency.

I don't mean to dispute what you said but Aviator is a very dangerous game which can eat up someone's millions or billions and more in a matter of seconds and so you saying you were addicted to it before and you stopped is what I don't think is that easy even though you don't use good amount of money to play it. I know how attracting this Aviator can be because I have a friend who's into it and up till now he has not still stop flying Aviator because he is addicted to it so you saying you stopped is somehow to me and I don't think yours is addiction because if it was, you would have still be doing it till tomorrow because I know what I'm saying.

It is a kind of addiction, but gambling is not possible without money. The things you mentioned are not addiction to gambling, but a kind of technology addiction.

Our boys/girls are becoming addicted to social media, addicted to video games or some are addicted to gossip. Basically, in the digital age, everyone is addicted to some or the other, which is a kind of harmful addiction. We always see addiction in a negative way, but there are good and bad types of addiction.

I just remember our childhood where we were addicted to physical sports, addicted to cycling and addicted to traveling. These basically bring benefits to a person's life instead of harm. But the boys/girls of the digital age are addicted to technology which is not directly harmful but indirectly harmful. Both mental problems and physical problems are seen.

The point is that you should only bet a certain percentage of your total deposit or bankroll. Money management is crucial for us, as it allows us to identify and control risk, which increases our chances of survival in gambling. I'd even say that those who don't adhere to it are simply wasting their time in gambling. I'm not prepared to lose quickly because I want to test myself and my capabilities, my strategic skills, and put my years of experience and what I've learned to use in practice. In any case, it's impossible to make money in gambling without taking risks, so I don't believe in fairy tales.

Agreed, when a gambler gambler for fun and while gambling, he becomes so addicted to gambling that he thinks the money is bad when he gambles, even if he loses in gambling, he tries a second time that he will withdraw the money he has lost the second time, but whether he can withdraw the money or not, he becomes addicted. If a person with a gambling addiction earns cash, he wastes most of his income by gambling. There are thousands of gamblers who do not take responsibility for the proper maintenance of their family. So we must come out of this type of gambling addiction and others must also be careful. However, there are thousands of families where a person with a gambling addiction is never safe for their family, and because of the addicted person, they cannot live a peaceful life for their family members. Many times, a person with a gambling addiction becomes the cause of unrest in their family.

In general, this is what demo accounts are for, where you don't have to play for real money.The main thing is that the player does not get into debt and does not create problems for themselves. I think addiction to games without real money bets is unlikely,as there is no excitement or adrenaline rush, and such games will probably become boring very quickly.

What crossed my mind was that addiction without losing money was impossible, because someone addicted to gambling is usually hungry for victory, so they'll likely gamble by risking their own money, even money they don't deserve.

Is addiction without losing money like those who engage in demo-based gambling? I don't think they'd be able to stand it.

Even for someone who is already addicted, I don't think they'd want to gamble demo-based because they know it yields no results, not even profits.

Julien_Olynpic, first of all you're not gambling if all you do is go solos and demos on different casinos. The only reason that was created was to maintain the simulation of what the reality would look like for you, during selections, odd combinations and strategic analytics; If money isn't involved, It's not gambling. Addiction doesn't build up for those simulators overtime because nothing reacts to your choices, whether good or bad. It's crazy how the human mind works, but as long as nothing is getting out of that demo process, literally nothing can possibly go wrong (if that makes sense.)

I'm also not sure with this, Gambling addicts can gamble repeatedly and continuously every day. They usually do so emotionally and without realizing that their actions are compulsive. They continue to place bets without even considering their money.

Even professional gamblers can't lose without ever losing. If someone wins more than they lose and frequently engages in gambling, it means they're not addicted; it means they still understand the various strategies that lead them to more losses.

As I understand it, there are two types of addiction: financial and emotional, when a player mentally wants to be only in the world of gambling, but not in reality. There's a paradox in gambling, based on the fact that gambling and betting trigger optimistic thinking against the gambler.
So, if a gambler hopes for the best and thinks about it, they'll likely be very upset after a loss, or, if they're particularly stubborn, they'll want to keep topping up their deposit. Meanwhile, a pessimist will simply give up playing online casino games. Or they'll win and be overjoyed by the unexpected result.
Therefore, positive thinking and patience are extremely important in gambling.

Since gambling addiction is different from normal gaming addiction, I don't think there is anything that is related to gambling addiction without money. There is no way I can get addiction from gambling when money is not involved, no way.
Money must be involved as a gambler and if you are not using money to gamble, that should not be classified as gambling.

Yes, gambling is directly related to money, so where money is not used, it is not necessarily gambling.
Because the basic structure of gambling is made up of the risk of money, the excitement of profit or loss, that is what the gambler mainly enjoys.
But if money is not used, you will not get enough excitement there, a game without money is never truly gambling.

These things are even bigger addictions because if you are addicted to gambling normally and are immersed in losses, then this visible loss will make you try to find a way out of your gambling addiction. But on the other hand, when you do not lose money but are addicted to gambling, then you will not be able to remedy it, but you will be far from the progress of your life. Although the number of such people who are addicted to gambling without losing money is very limited, it still exists.
In all those cases, people need to understand the value of their time, and accordingly, they need to set aside time for gambling so that only a certain amount of time is spent on gambling during their free time.

I also think the same thing, how can someone be addicted to gambling and not lose money? Gambling involves using money to play. If we're talking about demo games, that's not gambling, it's just a regular game.

I even have a friend who loves mobile games and spends a lot of money obsessed with the skins they have to buy. Furthermore, this is gambling, and you can't play without money. So, to be addicted without losing money is absurd, IMO.

But in the context of addiction, there must be a situation where our money will be drained and until now I have not seen those who are addicted to gambling that they do but do not lose money because almost all gambling addicts must feel they are losing money and not only that the property they have can also be lost.

I have several friends where they are addicted and in the end almost all of their wealth runs out and even it also spreads to income where their jobs are also lost because of gambling addiction behavior that interferes with work activities carried out.
So in this case I would not feel that there is a situation where we are addicted to gambling but we do not lose money in it.