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The next word we can always find after the word "investor" in Bitcoin is the word "HODLING". They go together everytime. What if there are investors that actually wants to have the daily, monthly or annual commission that comes with trading while maintaining a soft spot. What if there are investors that actually want to get huge returns from there Bitcoin by putting it to work and not just waiting for it to rise? The DCA method is also an alternative method to this but then some investors love to invest Voraciously. Can there be no avenue where an investor buys Bitcoin and puts it to work instead of waiting for a long long time for it to rise? We all know saving the conventional money without investing reduces the value. It's a good thing Bitcoin rises in value over time. However while waiting for it to rise in value, an investor might also need an avenue to put it to work.

Another means you can put Bitcoin into work(earning) is by participating in proof of stake(staking your Bitcoin on exchange) for a particular time frame(months or years).

Lending is another way to earn interest, but remember this comes with risks.

That's really nice to hear!!
I made my research and learnt that the platform that was used for staking crashed due to some reasons. It will really interest me to know if staking and lending is still valid and the possible risk attached because the concept of HODLING, although commonly used has not really been really appreciated by me due to the duration it can take at times before maturation

Staking your Bitcoin doesn't require a particular platform you can choose to stake or lend on any exchange of your choice, I know OKX had such features but it's not an advise from me cause just like Marykeller said, it's comes with it's own risks, you should do your research to know the risk factor and see if you're still willing to risk doing that.

 I'm a big supporter of long-term holding cause that's the concept of Bitcoin investing if any holder is tired of holding it means they're willing to thread the more risky path, holding Bitcoin still has risk but the risk factor is minimal compared to trading, staking or lending it on exchanges that could be hacked.

When you are looking for quick profit,  you are no longer an investor, but a trader, because for you to have a good RIO, you must give your investment time to blossom, and the way Bitcoin is wired, you must hold for a very long time before you can make something huge from it if you already accumulated a huge stash of it.
You can trade it for minimal gains, but the chances of losing your Bitcoin is way more higher than you winning.

Staking your Bitcoin is one dangerous risk we all needs to avoid because by doing so, your asset must be in the exchange you are staking it in that stipulated timeframe you which to stake it, so if anything like hacking or internal theft happens to that exchange, just know that your asset is gone, so it's a dangerous risk you need to avoid because it can never give you what it can take from you.

Trading daily, monthly, or even yearly can give quick profits, but it also carries high risk because most traders actually lose money due to volatility and emotional decisions. HODLing avoids those pitfalls. You just sit through the ups and downs, and over the years, Bitcoin’s historical trend has been upward. there are avenues to make BTC work while holding but you have to keep in mind that every extra yield opportunity comes with added risk. HODLing remains the most time-tested method, but adventurous investors can explore yield options with caution. But it's better safe than sorry.

If u dey hodl, you be investor. Whether you just buy am keep for it to stay a few months or years before u sell off or u stake or lend am somewhere to earn u passive income, I dey classify everybodi as hodler. Na only those wey dey do quick buy and sell I dey call traders. Hodling mean sey persin dey exercise patience wait for wetin dem buy to rise in price and value before dem sell. E nor get anything wey dey against all dat.

You are talking about trading. Better not to trade with Bitcoin. If you expect high returns then start with the method you mentioned. Yes you can start DCA method just for Bitcoin growth leave any other purpose. Newbies expect more money by investing in short time but this is not right. Continue and keep buying Bitcoin every four years cycle maybe every week or every month according to your income and aim to be consistent. If you can't save emergency funds in the beginning then collect funds slowly.

You will have to wait a long time to get the expected returns. If you don't want to see your wealth loss then accumulation Bitcoin for long term. Short term trading will cause your wealth loss either after a few days or after a few more days.

Long term Bitcoin buying is best strategies.

Staking is another means of earning although it does not come so quickly as expected apart trading which one can make money quicker. It's also another way of losing money if they don't know how trade effectively.
But the best way to earn through is DCA and long term holding.

Bitcoin investors are not tired of HODLING, the ability to hodl is a of the attribute that makes them investors in the first place, the moment they start looking for quick profit from bitcoin they stop being bitcoin investors but rather become bitcoin traders, these two are different in so many ways, so if you want you bitcoin to give you quick cash, there are alot of ways to go about it but you have to stop calling yourself an investor in bitcoin when you are operating with the mentality that making quick profit from bitcoin is the way, it works for some people but it's not bitcoin investment.

By the time you start buying Bitcoin & Hodl,you have already put it into work for it to start generating profits for you. As an investor,you got to have patience when investing in Bitcoin because Bitcoin doesn't work like a ponzi scheme,it requires a lot of time to generate huge profits for you. Looking at things, the expression in your posts tells you're more interested in trading your Bitcoin than Holding it. You have been emphasizing at trading your Bitcoin for quick profits but this strategy if apply comes with a risks. Trading & staking of your Bitcoin will definitely gives you profits but I will advise you to consider the risks first. Staking  your Bitcoin can only be done in a centralized Exchange,and you & I knows centralized Exchanges aren't safe to Hold valuable asset such as Bitcoin because they can be hacked. while trading on the side, is even riskier because while trading your Bitcoin in the market, you may end up losing all of it if traded wrongly.

Do you mean something like short term trading? In bitcoin investment m, you are either a short term traders or long term holder. That's how you will be able to make profits from bitcoin. You can't be tired of holding when you already understand the risk that comes with short term trading. Many Investors knows very well that short term trading comes with lot of work. You have to be very actively updated with the happens of the market fundamentals. And you can easily lose money.
Holding simply requires you invest your money and you can decide not to watch the market to avoid panic. And many investors chose to hold their bitcoins while trading other assets..

Understanding the dynamics of Bitcoin will keep you at a very good advantage to not think in this direction because you will agree with me that asides from earning more units or stash of bitcoin, there is no other way to pump up the value of that which you have except for waiting for it to rise, even if you put it to any form of work, the value remains except that form of work is increasing the quantity just like we get rewarded in signature campaigns, then you can think of the weekly withdrawals and not have to wait till when there is some sort of pumps or high rise in price of Bitcoin or crypto generally.

Another thing we need understand again be say investment no mean wetin you go dey collect every week or every day, dat one wey be say you go dey collect evey day or week na earnings but most people based on say dem no wan stress dem wan make earnings look like say na investemnt, you need to invest first en after sometimes before you go come dey get earnings so like for Bitcoin now, you need to buy now den wait for some time after which you go fit dey collect d profit wey dey enter on top your capital every week or month but if you dey thinkam say not to put funds today and tommorow you go come dey collect every week, e no dey work like dat, na why dem dey always say as an investor make you get another thing wey be say you dey do wey dey help you make money make e no be like say you go com dey touch your investment every time. Investments Normally are ment to stay awhile before you can get something off them and that is how it is naturally.

Just like others have said, staking is a common avenue, but how many people truly have that staking experience?, not sure now. Moving your money from fiat to Bitcoin already makes you an investor. I don't see much practical reasons to stake your Bitcoin, when investing in Bitcoin can be profitable with time. Staking comes with it's own flaws which might not even favour everyone, especially those whose stakes are not that high.

Bitcoin investment shouldn't be mixed with other activities.
If you don't have the patience to hodl for a long term, then I can't guarantee how profitable a short term investment or other avenues can be.

If you mean about how bitcoin enthusiasts way dey invest on bitcoin and want to make profits in the short terms probably due to impatient to hodl for long time or even live the decision to take profits for the uncertainty, I think no other way than trading. If u dey good in trading, u fit dey make profits in some specific times if u are lucky oh bcos even in the trading still be like uncertainty like gambling due to risks on unpredictability of the price and you dey take the risk of trying to predict am.
Other alternatives na pure gambling where u go stake with bitcoin for crypto casino. You fit also invest in partnership for the cryptography technology development while u go dey get percentage for specific period depends on the development u invest on and how resourceful em dey to bring u profits periodically.
But carry am for mind say the risks dey very high.

You fit flip your bitcoin through trading but trading dey risky and you fit lost everything. Another way you fit generate return nah through staking. Some exchanges get Bitcoin staking program. That is, you go lock up your Bitcoin for a particular period of time and e go yield more returns. Coinbase and Kraken dey support staking. But again, if it's not your keys, not your coins. So no matter how juicy and attractive the APR be, e no good to keep coins for exchange. If the exchange shutdown during this period, you go lose your fund. So the better thing to do as an investor, nah to just buy and hodl your Bitcoin for your personal wallet. E dey safer that way and e go still give your returns.

It is better and safe to just steak to your holding than trying to wanting to have more and fall into a bigger risk that you will regret.
Is hodl bitcoin for long-term now a burden, the returns after hodl for long is it not very satisfactory enough, why wanting to endanger your investment that you have taken your time to build, instead of wanting to put your bitcoin investment at work because you are tied of hodl, why not look for another job for yourself or other of your investment to put at work, because I cannot imagine risking my bitcoin investment just because I want to prove a point and become a no or low coiner, remember wanting too much might be very dangerous, use your other investment for that not bitcoin because I am pleased with my returns I will be getting after I must have gotten to my over accumulation stage in bitcoin .

Bitcoin is known and designed for long-term, so if you are tired of holding then try something else, also remember the profit can't be compared to any other Investment and all other investment too has their risk factor.

Absolute right, you can earn money through trading but you have to understand that trading is not an easy way, to earn money from here you must adopt complete knowledge and strategy, a small mistake can lead to loss of all your money, so earning money through trading is very risky. Invest your hard-earned valuable assets in Bitcoin consistently with specific and long-term thinking and wait patiently for the right time so that profits can be expected in the future. Always be careful, keep your valuable funds in a personal wallet rather than on exchanges, and it is wise to store your money properly.

I can never encourage trading to a newbie because it's the fastest way to wreck yourself if you knows nothing about it and you still went ahead and trade. We have seen how most newbies traders lose their hard earned money to trade due to the fact that they thought that it's the fastest way to make money and they thought that it was easy, but at the end of the day they got themselves burnt.
You are actually right here and we both share the same sentiment on this issue. The best way to protect yourself and your asset is to store your valuables in your personal and private self custodian wallet because you hold the key to your own security unlike the exchange where you are not the one holding the key to it, and if anything happens to the exchange, your asset is seriously at risk of theft , so self custody of your asset is a must if you must be protected in this crypto space.

With what your description OP , you referring to traders not investors. The difference between investors and traders is that , traders are into bitcoin investment for quick profit while investor are those that are into bitcoin with long term perspective. There are investors that are holding bitcoin not because they want to make profit but rather because they want to store value and also don't forget that bitcoin do act as a hedge against inflation.

I still don’t understand why some people feel very comfortable having their assets stored up in exchanges, it’s not as if all exchanges are bad or something, but the truth is that, they have several vulnerabilities and plus it goes against one of the core values of Bitcoin, which decentralization, Bitcoin is meant to give us freedom to control our own money and keeping your money in an exchange isn’t a great way of exercising that freedom and control over your money because a third party has become involved and at this point, anything can happen cos your funds are now at the mercy of that exchange.

What I can do with bitcoin while waiting for it to rise is trade it. I don't have to stake bitcoin at the moment and if I want to stake then I have to buy another stakable coin to do that and get more value either with the quantity of coin I will get converting portion of bitcoin to that coin, maybe doge. Also, I won't lend bitcoin especially not in an exchange because anything can happen with the exchange while your lending period is still subsisting.

We have arbitrage trading as one of such avenue. In this method, you buy Bitcoin at a lower price on one exchange and sell it at a higher price on another. The profit comes from the price difference between both exchanges.

To be honest, it’s not as easy as it sounds  the crypto market moves very fast, and arbitrage requires accurate timing, capital efficiency, and sometimes even automation bots to execute trades before the gap between prices closes.

Exactly that’s why most folks prefer recommending holding , and proof of stake is almost like holding while you receive some percentage of your funds as a reward but the truth is that inorder to earn something good from it you need a lot of capital or a lot of funds in order make something good from it. And when come to lending is not everyone that’s trust worthy , and imo is not safe most time it may against the reason of our privacy which is safety .

Even if you want to start trading with your bitcoin is choice but know this just there is chances of you making profits daily that’s how there’s chances of you losing daily , sooner you know this the sooner the better .

They don't know the dangers that come with storing your asset in an exchange and that is why they are comfortable with there asset there they have forgotten not your not your coin and in very way your asset is at risk since uyou are not the custodian and exchanges are important for value exchanges but saving it there is the main challenge and things are comments that have been ringed into people's ear but they have failed to listen.  And aside the freedom that bitcoin was suppose to give it was suppose to also give profit to so the kind of offers that bitcoin comes with is just exceptionally want to make you invest mote and more everytime so the best thing is for everyone to take responsibility of there assets.

Nobody go force you to hold your bitcoin, na for your own best if you choose to hold and when e be say u ready with risk wey follow to put your bitcoin at work then no wahala, if you like trading or you want dey gamble with your bitcoin to find small small profits no wam but the consequences go mainly fall on top your head and the thing come be say u done get greater chance to lose your bitcoin compared to when you choose to hold.

Na for this forum i don see say dem dey lend bitcoin, outside here i never see anything like that, my own advice na say make you hold, nothing sweet pass say your dey hold the same quantity of bitcoin without losing any fraction, make in be say na the price dey fluctuate, as we done know say the way e take go down na the same way e go use come back up, choose holding.