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Predictions, speculations possible exit scam awaiting you signature campaign members and customer.

I am overwhelmed by such a detailed explanation. What timeframe do you give for your prediction? That way, if it doesn't come true, I'll reflect on your profile that you're dedicated to talking nonsense.

Do you have something on your mind? Why not tell the name? Are you afraid about getting a red tag? If you can't predict who the manager is, then how are you speculating? If you are afraid of something to write from the main account, then Theymos allows you to create an alt (just letting you). So you can write whatever is on your mind.

However, you said popular manager. But I think a popular manager doesn't really need to scam for signature funds. They are earning a handsome amount as management fees from the signature campaign. So your speculation is invalid. Seems you are angry with someone.

I think he is referring to AB de Royse777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366632)

AB de Royse777 is managing CoinTor campaign on Altcoinstalks. Bitking1 first complained that he sent huge among of coins to the mixer called CoinTor and the site went offline after.

Later he posted that the site is offline and their Telegram channel or group or so also went offline after he sent 6 figures to the mixer. The same that I talked about above but he disclosed what amount the coins can be.

https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=330011.msg1888758#msg1888758

You can check the discussion yourself from there. Royse addressed it on both Cointor announcement and signature campaign threads but with just two line posts or so.

After that time, Royse has been offline on both Bitcointalk and Altcoinstalks since October 2nd which was last week Thursday.

If Royse does not come online again, that means he might be the one that owns the mixing site and see no reason to be on these forums anymore when he has scammed someone that sent million of dollar to the scam mixer. Or maybe Royse knows the people that owns the site, work together to do the scam.

I wish Royse not to be like this. I wish he is innocent but he is not coming online. Also he is not paying his campaign participants which makes it more of red falg. I mean not just CoinTor campaign participants that are now not paid, but people in all his other campaigns, he is not paying them. He is not even coming online.

am curious here, why not speak out with details if you have any, because am only seeing mere words above without prove nor evidence to back them up, or are you a futurist who have seen the future? I believe you know the consequences that follows after now if your prediction and speculation doesn't come true, and you are still unable to provide pure prove nor evidence to back up all what you have said above. And let me inform you incase you are not aware here on bitcointalk we don't say things like this without prove nor evidence to back them up. scam is a major threat here, and the DT members are always trying their possible best to fish them out, so the earlier you open up the better for us to avoid future damage.

Most of those that comments are on my ignored list I can't read your spam and brainless comments, the first and second comments.

Did you read what I posted before posting? If you did not read it it, read it. That has been my observation and I think that is what Why2why is talking about. I know other campaign managers also but it is only Royse that I traced this to and that will be what Why2why is talking about.

Why are they on your Ignored lists? They are both good posters. They only needed clarification.

Interesting. An explanation like that is what should be in the OP, if he were a quality poster. So we're going to have AB de Royse777 drama again? It's not a campaign from this forum, but there's nothing stopping us from discussing it. I wonder if there are people who are in both forums and have been involved in this issue there.

Many people on this forum Teleported their account on Altcoinstalks to have the same rank after they registered on the forum, most people on this forum are the ones that are in signature campaign on Altcoinstalks and many of them are on CoinTor campaign. But that is not even the problem, the problem is that Royse is having signature campaigns also on this forum but he is not coming online. So probably those people will not be paid if he does not come online.

no I didn't read your comment above, and judging from the time you posted your comment and the time I posted my owe comment you started typing your comment before me, and you posted while I was still typing and I posted my comment before I saw your owe comment.

And if all what you have said above is what @why2why is referring to I think he or she need to work on his or herself and post things the right way with details to avoid drama's next time, because what he or she posted are just mere words without prove nor evidence to back them up and you don't expect anybody to take that serious, that was why @Free Market Capitalist  and @The Cryptovator and myself said what we said earlier, but now that you have cleared us with details we are good kodus.

Things like this are part of what makes the forum to clarify that they are not responsible for any of our participation in any form of services rendered on this forum by any third party, we are choosing to work with them is at our own risk, though this is not for us to take advantage and scam others.

I don't think we should see this being escalated for now, because he was just active last Thursday, we don't know what exactly condition he might have been in, I remember of another manager who was once offline too for a time agter we had of a flood disaster that happened in their country, a member voluntarily went in search of him in his neighborhood, at the end, he was save and sound.

Royse might be challenged presently and we don't know what exactly, this coming as a coincidence to the coin tor shutdown doesn't mean he have connections with it or something related, let's pray he comes back soon and finds every reason of being in a good shape as we talk, while we awaits his comeback, his safety first before any other thing.

Nothing is certain yet. Since he still manages some campaigns on the forum, we would have to wait until participants begin to complain that they have not been paid. We all have lives outside the forum; maybe he is going through some challenges. I just hope he is fine and nobody loses money in CoinTor. 

Does AB de Royse777 actually have any campaigns in the forum here now? It seems he does not.

It is interesting AB de Royse777 locked the Cointor ANN thread and campaign threads in Altcoinstalks without elaborating after the complaints were posted including the big complaint from a member called bitking1 that claimed to lose a six-figure sum.

Any campaign manager with decency and dignity would cover the campaign fees from his own pocket if for one reason or another he did not receive payment from his employers and they went on to exit-scam.

We do not know why AB de Royse777 is offline in both forums and why he has not told campaign participants what will happen with regards to their non-payments for the signature campaign.

At this stage, some could claim Cointor was part of the plan by AB de Royse777 to dupe people in to sending coins to mix before exit-scamming. I would advise caution for the immediate term as that cannot be corroborated.

For those that engaged with him, is the AB de Royse777 telegram group still active?

https://t.me/R7Agency

It seems BetFury (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5552008.80) campaign managed by AB de Royse777 is still on. His last update was 21st of September and there was no announcement that the campaign was paused or has ended.   

He had been running this campaign here: [CFNP] BetFury Bitcoin Gambling Focused Signature Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5552008.0).

I was also in the other community teleported my account and so I was surprised why the CoinTor thread was lock. For sure many might want to discussed with Royse what happen to that campaign.

But let's see, he has built his reputation already. Betfury's Campaign week: Saturday to Friday UTC. So he might have to come up in weekends to start the post count and pay the participants.

Royse is not also present there for now. Someone there is asking already about Mixero September winners like this '@Royse777 Hello, why is there such a delay in announcing the September Mixero predict the price of bitcoin winner?'.

No response from Royse.

There could be Rose posting there, but it is just a Telegram bot and not Royse.

In short, Royse is no where to be found for now. I hope he will come back so that it will not be what I am thinking.

Check Rose removed himself as the owner of the telegram of Rose agency also.
https://talkimg.com/images/2025/10/06/UGvRSv.jpeg
Over 2000+ participants in that telegram chat group but no owner is that possible?

He will, brother. I've messaged him, and he will pay all campaign participants today, he was on travel and expects to be on a normal schedule soon.
I pray, Royse, that he is safe on his travel, and let him explain when he comes back.

Cheers to all

Finally, a good thread to rejoice the Royse haters. Saw the other thread where LM already mentioned that Royse was in a Poker Tournament yesterday, which he hosted himself. However, you are creating threads here and there and speculating on various things. This is a good opportunity for people like JG, who do not miss any chance to discuss those with whom he has had disagreements.

I have checked the Telegram link now posted by JG, and it appears that Royse has posted an update for his campaign participants. That doesn't prove anything. Let's force Royse to tell us where he was for the last three days  :D :D

Yeah you are correct Fiatless, since he has not responded we just have to wait, if he doesn't come online I'm sure those in his campaign will complain because without him coming online he won't be able to pay them even if he has there details already he still needs to count campaign participate post before paying them, and again just like you said we have life outside this forum so no one should assume his doing this on purpose because no one knows if his even okay, things happens so let's just wait till he comes online, I hope his fine out there.
Those that knows him outside this forum should try reaching out to him and then report back to us here so we can know the situation of things.

Why don't you check the latest posts of this thread? User robelneo already said that he contacted Royse. Royse told him that he is traveling and the signature campaign participants will receive payment today. I think OP should lock this thread and move on. You are simply creating a drama thread, which provides an opportunity for some people to join in and make more trouble in the reputation section.

Even though OP didn't point fingers at anyone, _act_ took that to another level with his post, and he even created another thread. He probably expected some merits, but he received only one so far. The mission brutally failed.

It does not seem to be much of a campaign when it is heavily restricted and nobody seems to be wearing the signature. When was the last time you saw an account with a Betfury signature. It seems to be a signature campaign in name only.

This is what he last posted in the Betfury thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5552008.msg65831704#msg65831704) on 21st September 2025: "You will get paid for Week#41 shortly at a rate of $115,671.00 BTCUSD. Good work everyone."

Locking both threads served no purpose as it could be viewed as trying to stifle debate and information. It seems strange he locked them.

It seems you are mistaken. How does the image explain the group has no admin or he has removed himself as the owner?

Something fishy is definitely going on and I think that Royse777 has to come online and clear the air. I just hope the allegation against him are not true because it will really be a major disaster to a lot of people that hold him in high regards. Secondly, he is the manager of some of the reputable casinos signature, if he is found wanting, it will definitely affect those brands.

Royse777 and drama king around, absolute cinema.

When you both share the same brain, what else can you expect?

NO owner!

I was already typing my post when robelneo post came in there was no way I could see it, however it was when I posted I saw that robelneo has already posted and said he has reached out to him and he said he was traveling and the signature campaign participants will receive payment today.
Well thank God his okay and robelneo you did well for reaching out to him and also reporting it here it has calm the whole thing.

robelneo has already reached out to Royse777 and he said he was traveling and the signature campaign participants will receive payment today, so robelneo has already clear the air.
We are not even sure the OP was really talking about Royse777 but is all good now I guess thanks to robelneo for clearing the air.

After reading through the thread, my eyelids dropped and my face down casted in shame; I just wish this wasn't true, and that he'll come up any time soon to defend these allegations against him. Don't you have a teleported account on altcointalk? I mean, almost everyone does so.I'm also trying to understand this as well. Why2why, the best proves would be dropping something more elaborate. Even at that, Royce isn't going inactive this long for the first time. My point is, we can't just conclude huh?

This is the danger of running campaigns for mixers. The users end up believing that the service is trustworthy or that it has an established reputation. :-\ Where is the post about the 6 figures? I can't open altcoinstalk at all.

The fact that he is not rushing back to clear this up is the red flag. There are no excuses when large amounts of other people's money are involved. No personal emergencies excuse it, nothing does. That is the responsibility one has when dealing with money.

Yes, it is possible for Telegram groups to lose the owner. That cripples them though.

That is Rose, a popular telegram bot. https://missrose.org/

Simply because there is an opportunity to repeat what has been said, as well as to fulfill the quota for the company signature. :D


Another ;D

A mixer that was being promoted in a forum, decided exit-scam after a six digit amount was sent to them. The campaign manager locks the two threads that were associated with that mixer (the ANN thread and the campaign thread). The campaign manager then cannot be contacted by those wanting payment. It then transpires through a third party that the campaign manger is allegedly on a travel.

You can call it whatever you want but this is not a professional service and not the way a competent campaign manager should behave. Maybe providing updates to victims would have been better than remaining silent before and during the alleged travel.

Bullshit.

There are no excuses for this. I've created a flag. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3446

Wow! I do have an account on Altcointalks but I'm never active there. I just now read this incident here. This is extremely shady behaviour from Royse himself, as both threads are locked (ANN and signature campaign), something which shouldn't happen in the first place for transparecy reasons. Even if he's allegedly travelling, you can still access the forum and reply, there's no excuse, you don't just lock the thread and basically tell the guy who got scammed to f*** off. On the one hand, although all this behavior is extremely suspicious, on the other hand, it's best not to make assumptions just yet, as life is quite unexpectable and we don't know what might have happened, even when it's against all odds.

Cointor's website is still down, and will remain that way, this shady tactic of slowly building trust through the signature campaign only to exit scam later is known with ponzi schemes. Even though it wouldn't directly be Royse's fault for the outcome, it's unacceptable behavior as a so-called representative. Unless the two, something others already mentioned, are affiliated or even owned by Royse.

There is every possibility that he was travelling but the problem is with the timing. Victims have not been able to contact him to ask for their money and he did not have the courtesy to even inform the victims of the campaign that he is going somewhere and will return after 'x' days and will (or will not) pay them.

I think the best course of action would be to not support the flag before allowing AB de Royse777 sufficient time to explain to the victims why he let them down. If he does not post explaining his version of events that are acceptable to the community or he simply does not return, the flag will no doubt receive support and the account will receive multiple tags.

What has not helped the situation is the way the campaign manager has added a layer of shady behaviour on top of a situation where an exit-scam took place. If he was competent, matters would not have come it being discussed here.

I'm shocked that after the well-known scams in the past, he’s been entrusted with hundreds of thousands of dollars. And why does he have only 3 red trust ratings? Why hasn’t anyone created a red flag yet?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403679.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5402179.0

I remember cases where the service being advertised stopped responding or ended up scamming their users, but the manager would be transparent about it, at least in most cases, to those I've seen on the forum myself. Personally, although I don't know Royse enough, I find this behaviour odd. One possible scenario is that the mixing service was his but wanted to abstain from publicly announcing it, perhaps the initial plan wasn't to exit scam, but ended up receiving a substantial amount of money that was "worth" exit scamming or was too large to not be tempted.

These are all assumptions, so I guess before making this incident even more complicated than it already is, I'd suggest we wait till Royse gets back, if he does. If he doesn't, it would be a huge bummer for the forum and the community.

Thank you for creating the red flag — that should have been done a long time ago. I’ve supported the flag and urge others to do the same

Satofan, this does not worth a flag yet. Let us wait and see what Royse will do first, let us see if he will pay people in his campaign before creating a flag. You are a good poster, but you need to be less stringent about trust feedbacks and flags. I will not support the flag until we see something really going wrong.

He is on the forum posting. Has anyone asked him to take a look at this thread and comment on the current status? People have lives outside the forum and if he’s traveling and saying he will get to it, saying he is exit scamming and leaving him flags might be jumping the gun a bit. I have no skin in the game, but hope that a 10+ year active member of this forum wouldn’t do an exit scam.

He left 3 posts, updates for his campaigns, in the last few hours, which I think means all the speculation can stop for now. Seems like people jumped the gun on this one. So pretty much all the unfounded allegations or rumors were just that. You guys should get in the practice of bringing some kind of evidence that someone is exit scamming or colluding with a scammer before just assuming that's what happening. Just my opinion.

Royse is online and active, he already made comment in some of his signature campaign thread to pay participants.

Has Royse seen this threads on him, of course he has and choose to stay silent, he already been accused and replying to this thread won't solve anything, I think he prefers answering by paying all participants.

Royse is going about his normal life, creating a flag seems to me like personal hate on the manager and not trying to resolve the whole issue.

What happened to you that you are suddenly becoming the voice of reason? Whatever the cause, I’ve removed you from my ignore list as a result.

It was a nice drama filled read, even if it was all nonsense. For those here for entertainment, maybe this is the type of stuff they like to see.

Why rush to create a flag even before giving the other party time to hear their side of the story. What if something unavoidable happened to them?

I think you are being too quick to create a flag whose reference is a link to this thread that is just full of speculation and no facts showing that AB de Royse777 has exit scammed. Without any proof, your flag is invalid, and I suggest you do better next time.

Wow! When did all these happen and why did it happen so fast. I have carefully read through the conversations and understood what really happened. Royse short break from the forum and the exit scam of Cointor was such a perfect coicidence.
Meanwhile, Royse updated the the Poker-People-Focused Campaign thread few minutes ago, which means that he is back.