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It’s interesting how most offshore or Curacao-licensed casinos can still accept players from almost anywhere, even in countries where gambling is technically illegal. The trick, it seems is simple, they just don’t advertise or directly target those countries.

From what I’ve read, as long as these casinos aren’t promoting or marketing to restricted regions, they’re not breaking any local laws. Basically, players can still access their sites on their own, and the operator won’t face any lawsuit or penalty.

What do you guys think? For gamblers like us who live in countries where gambling is restricted, this might actually be our chance to still play. As long as these offshore casinos don’t advertise locally, they can still accept players quietly, and we can still enjoy gambling without worrying much about legal issues.

There are a lot of places where the onus is still on the casino to ensure they're complaint with laws of individuals that use them (especially if they're large enough to be able to ban certain countries from using their site IP wise).

You can usually, as an individual, use their site but your profits (should you make any) might be liable for tax. It is nice to use crypto gambling sites over regular local fiat ones because they're actually doing something interesting and a bit more innovative than most other places (like betting exchanges too).

How would the government know I made a profit?

If I remit taxes and declare it came from casino winnings at an offshore casino, would I be foolish to get myself in trouble for breaking the law against gambling?

Of course they wouldn’t know, since in the first place they don’t even know you’re gambling. they can’t really force overseas casinos to give out your info either, especially if those sites aren’t regulated under their laws.

And honestly, the government isn’t that interested in the gamblers themselves, they know most gamblers lose anyway. what really catches their attention are the casinos, that’s where the real money and control are.

Of course, you have the freedom to still have fun by gambling in a global casino like those ones in oyr forum. Your government is the one missing out on benefitting from revenue gotten from casinos. Online gambling has made it easy for gamblers living in a country that gambling is prohibited to still have the to gamble whenever they want.

 You are not paying any tax on profits only if you are using an exchange to convert your crypto to fiat but as long as your profit remains in crypto and kept in your self custody wallet, you ain't paying tax to no one because it's impossible for them to know if you're gambling or not.

That's the reason why a strict country should think for twice in banning gambling. I meant Offshores casino became paradise for all of people from the restricted countries. They helped to by pass the strict rules created by the government. How much potential income that went to the offshores casino's pocket instead of government. it should be the main concern.

The burden is on you, whether you want to report it or not. But for sure, you won't as you know that your government are not allowing gambling and you somewhat circumvent it by playing online. So forget about tax, majority here are not going to declare, simply as that. I won't say that they are heroes, but off shore casino has open up a lot of doors and options for us.

And we can go back to the pandemic 4-5 years ago wherein everything stop. But then again the brilliance of online casinos to established this business, yes we have online casinos already but you could see the growth and explosion on the last couple of years and thanks to the pandemic as this is the offshoot of it.

If the income means nothing to them, then sure, it’s fine. But wouldn’t it be kind of an insult if they make a ban and it turns out to be useless? it just shows how incompetent they are.

and instead of that money going to the government where it could actually help the economy, it ends up going to offshore sites that don’t even pay taxes here. that’s something they should really think about before making a ban, because once they ban and then unban later, gamblers might not come back anymore, they’ll get used to playing offshore where it’s tax free.

Yes, that's true. I'm very glad there are so many services that turn a blind eye (or don't care at all) to where their customers come from. For example, I am from a sanctioned country, and why should I suffer (even though I personally have not committed any crimes, or at all against the government of my country) because I have the “wrong” passport? The Internet was created as a new free sphere, but unfortunately, the damned states are seizing power here too, thank God, islands of freedom still exist.

Heroes? I don't know.

I live in a country with proper licenses issued by the government and I still play in offshore casinos when I want to spend some money on gambling.
The reason is that to the licensed casinos there's no sense of provable fairness and they also don't host any games with 1% house edge or lower.
There's no computer blackjack where if you play right you can get house edge lower than 1% or there's no dice with a stable 1% house edge. Aviator has 3% edge etc.

So while a government license can mean a site won't outright steal your unused deposit, it's also not guaranteeing anything in terms of fairness. Predetermined rolls are not guaranteed and house edge there is low. In other words, you're robbed blind and the governments don't care because this way they make more money.

So even us in non-restricted countries like to play in offshore casinos because they're more fair and innovative.

There are some casinos too that will not allow a country where gambling is restricted to access their website and once a player use IP blocker to access the casino and it gets detected, the account will be locked. So, if you are looking for the one to play on, let it be that you can access the site in your country, and if not, before you use IP blocker, make sure they allow it to avoid penalty, but sure, offshore casino helps individuals that are living in a country that restricts gambling.

What you say is partly incorrect. Those casinos should not accept players from those countries, and that is stated in their Terms of Service. Some block them directly, but many others turn a blind eye.


HAHAHA, so basically you're gambling illegally because casinos that have a Curaçao license pay less tax and therefore charge you less. Curaçao has low public spending, low taxes, and regulations, but it seems that in this case, austerity does not bother you.

Well, they are not here to help you avoid restrictions, they are here to take your money... And if you get caught breaking the rules, your heroes will just turn their heads and say: "We said that we are not responsible for the laws in your country". In other words, go fuck yourself, your loss is only good if you lose in our house. Hard truth...

Let's not mix up the idea of Bitcoin, and I would be free to add some other coins, even some others wouldn't agree with them, with crypto gambling... especially with crypto casinos.

I'll admit you're correct but only partly in terms of what you conclude.

Is Curacao implementing austerity? On paper it's a Netherlands territory so I doubt they're a low government spending territory. I haven't studied their economy much to know more. Not that it matters though because they're an outlier on everything. If we put them side to side to any country, no other place could have such large percentage of its income from gambling because Curacao is a tiny place with very low population.

But yes, as a gambler it's always in your interest to go with casinos that offer the lowest house edge.

As of gambling licenses, do as I say and not as I do! We're talking national politics here, not self intrrests. In my country gambling was legalized with local government licenses and now you see ads everywhere. This has lead to an increase in government earnings from gambling but also the gambling economy is becoming too big now. Online casinos had a turnover of around 30b EUR while our GDP is around 200b EUR.

So now the government has created an unstoppable industry and addiction is running rampant. I'd personally see online gambling remain banned if it were to ruin so many people.

I don’t what you guys think about Curacao license but it’s not bulletproof on liability with law if they accept user from restricted country.

Casino ToS just don’t specifically list all the restricted country but they do have a terms that include other country with gambling restrictions that doesn’t mentioned.

Casino is liable if they accept user from country that has forbid them to gamble. The catch is the government can’t watch all the casino that accept user from this countries.

This is the reason why some user freeze their account once they are asked to KYC.

Technically they still have certain regulation implemented on their platform.

Since those offshore casino still have country restrictions so if you see that your country is on their list then you cannot gamble on those casino.

So maybe check if you are really allowed since if you are trying to do nasty thing and bypass those restrictions by using VPN or other tools maybe you might experience getting serious issue on the casino since they are also following the law.

I think there is a risk depending from countries regulations. I mean if a country is banning just casino from operating in its territories then it is fine but if gambling as a whole is prohibited even if it is not clearly written in the laws then I am afraid that legal measures will be taken and your money will be hold by the government and even you can face charge of money laundering. You have to prove from where you brought the money in the first place to bet with it and if you have the right to send it abroad. Then once you won and decided to bring that money home, you have to prove from where it comes and if it is legal, taxable, like 25% more or less... There are a lot of details to check in every country before trying to do a move.

The internet has provided so many things, and this subject is probably one of the things that people could take advantage of. I'm curious about how the cross-border enforcement works and if there are people who take it seriously because the casinos are probably getting KYC and AML compliance to see if there are red flags with members.

I'm not sure it's safe to say that this is a "workaround" type of thing.

That's the first time I heard about that kind of ruling.

I didn't know that offshore online gambling sites can still be accessed by countries that restrict online gambling. Thank you for that information. Here in our place, there are only games that cannot be played, and even offshore gambling sites cannot do anything about it. I guess it's the provider that's limiting the access, and it must not be changed.

Anyway, have you tested it? What games can you play and on what site?

Most times these casinos might not even know the players are from restricted countries since these players engage with VPNs and route through countries that are eligible. I've read of scenarios where players forgets to turn on their VPNs while playing a and their accounts are flagged. The truth is that gamblers must find a way to satisfy their desires and these countries declaring gambling illegal are only enriching the casinos since they get the patronage and don't pay taxes.

Additionally they're making gamblers from their country more vulnerable since they cannot seek legal redress when treated unfairly by the casino.

I don't think they are heroes either
They are often people who want to take advantage of some regulatory loopholes and often want to ensure that they do not give out their contact details and names so as to be able to carry out an exit scam.

at least, be careful, know that if they do everything without names or fake names you can expect a scam almost always

Currently many offshore casinos operate in a gray area, although in general we know that these Casinos obtain licenses from offshore jurisdictions as we know in general, namely Curacao, Malta, Gibraltar and so on, of course the risk still exists, that's for sure.

Although offshore casinos provide a lot of freedom and flexibility to their users in carrying out gambling activities, but to know about the importance of choosing a casino that is well-reputed and operates ethically and transparently responsibly is very important, not a few offshore casinos have various kinds of accusations, It is worth considering all the risks that might occur without our individual will.

There are many reputable casinos now, though some have restrictions in some countries but those that still trust the casino more than any other casino are using VPN to access the casino and still enjoy their fun without interruption. So, it's the duty a gambler to actually make research on the best casino to use.

That is a good option but the term off-shore is always used in negative contexts of the word, so I live in a country where gambling is restricted locally but not internationally so I keep playing in online casinos. In here they have made it impossible to gamble as you risk even jail if you are caught using VPN-s to bypass local laws and to appear as you are playing outside the country. Those casinos you mention have found a good way to increase their user base even without marketing because marketing is in most cases for gambling done directly from gamblers themselves. I am pretty sure they have one of the biggest user base there despite many people still do not know about it.

There’s no guarantee about that. The fact that you’re using a VPN just to gamble already shows a potential problem you might face later on. Even if they allow it for now, once you win big, you could run into serious issues in the future. So it’s really not recommended, unless you fully understand the risks and are willing to take them.

WHy would you declare your winnings in the casino ifthey cant give you part of your loses?
Thanks you VPN also who are helping casino players to play even their country dont allow them.
this is also the power of cryptocurrency where country or who you are is not an issue.

I also don't see how a government that bans gambling will tax any gambler in their country because already it is illegal and if such a gambler were caught they will be prosecuted. Gamblers in such countries should know that they are breaking the law and if they are found out they will face the music. So far they have bypassed their government's radar they are on their own and if they have any issues with the offshore casinos there won't be any government regulations to protect their rights. So it means there are positive and negative sides for gamblers in restricted countries that wants to use offshore casinos.

Maybe he’s just scared that if the tax agency sees the winnings, he’ll get hit for tax evasion. Generally, any income should be declared, that’s the rule everywhere.
But enforcement varies; if you live where they don’t check closely, people sometimes skip declaring, especially if they think they can hide the trail.

Thing is, trying to hide transactions is risky and illegal, and if you’re thinking that way you should know the consequences can be serious.

Casino like Betpanda allow the use of VPN so you will not encounter any problem by just simply using VPN even if you win big.

Most of the user that encounter problem are those who cheat or violated the ToS and use VPN to create other account to replicate the same violation mostly on the bonus of the casino.

Using VPN per se it’s not bad. Your gambling activity is always what the casino look when checking your account health.

If you’re using a VPN just to get around geo-restrictions, remember your IP will say you’re somewhere else, fine until they ask for KYC.

What do you do when your ID and address say one place but your connection shows another? That mismatch can lead to account freezes, extra checks, or even suspicion of fraud. VPNs might work for a while, but when KYC hits, you’ll have to explain the gap, and that’s a risky place to be.

Offshore casinos, especially crypto casinos, are quite helpful for players in countries where gambling is prohibited, allowing them to continue gambling. Although from the government's perspective, it still appears to be against the law, I don't think the government is so strict in punishing all gamblers who play at offshore casinos, since they're playing with their own money and knowingly, there's no loss to the country.
So, it's quite unreasonable for the government to punish people who play at offshore casinos. If they don't want these players playing at offshore casinos, they should simply legalize gambling in their country, it's that simple.

FYI this is a misconception towards playing offshore. Casino doesn’t allowed players from restricted country to play rather some casino doesn’t apply strict restrictions on other countries that is not specifically listed on their license scope but they will faced problem in case the government knew that their citizens play in that casino.

Problem will arise when the KYC was imposed to players that came from country with gambling restrictions. They can use it to freeze your account and seize your deposit.

So it’s a gamble at your own risk.

There are multiple reasons for the ban. It varies from religious reasons to the monetary systems of the country itself.
I will not talk about the other causes related to corruption like having few casinos or gambling platforms run by a bunch of corrupted businessmen and politicians who consider online casinos as competitors but I will talk about some countries that control very much the flow of money from the outside to inside the country and vice versa. They refuse to see USD and other major FIAT get out of the Central Bank and they have to show that they control the flow coming from abroad so they avoid international sanctions related to money laundering.
To resume the situation, it is not that government aren't aware of that but there are priorities for them, their stomachs and not people need.

If there's a legal requirement for these casinos to block access in certain countries, I think they'll face problems. We see many that don't allow us access. Here in Brazil, we don't have restrictions on online casinos, unlike in many countries. It's not prohibited, and yet some casinos issue a warning that they don't operate here when I try to access them. I don't know what criteria they use.

For those with these kinds of restrictions, breaking the law isn't the solution, and I'm not preaching to anyone, but it's quite risky. Some countries impose severe penalties for those who break them.

I wouldn't call them heroes; it's just business. At the first sign of trouble, they leave the scene... ::)

Double-edged. Yes, they are your last resort when every other jurisdiction closes its doors to you... but if you're not lucky and you get one of the many unscrupulous ones, you get shivved for your money with nowhere to turn to except the really weak arm of those offshore domains.

Just look online to see the complaints that come almost daily of people who just suddenly get frozen out of withdrawals. Track it back to the licence and it makes sense.

Crypto casinos that do right by their customers despite holding these offshore licences? Now those are the true heroes.