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I’ve always wondered if sports betting can actually be learned the same way you develop skills in poker or trading. Some bettors claim they’ve improved over time , studying player stats, team form, odds movement, and even learning how to manage their bankroll properly.

But others still say it doesn’t matter how much research you do, because one bad call, injury, or last-minute play can ruin everything. So is it really a skill, or just controlled gambling that gives you the illusion of strategy?

What’s your personal experience? Do you feel you’ve gotten better with time, or is it still just luck deciding the outcome in the end?

There is mastery to everything but we shouldn't neglect the fact that luck plays a vital role in gambling. Sports betting requires both skills, strategy and level of mastery to win most times, unlike other casino games like slot, roulette which rely mainly on luck to win. If you are good at making good analysis you will become more lucky to win when you bet.

We have some level of mastering in sport betting, but we have zero consistency in it outcomes what that means for a sports bettors is that, you have all the statistics and skills to analyze the game but a lot of factors could stop your from reaching your desired winnings, and that is where luck becomes your only hope to win, since you can't rely on skills and performance of the team alone to make a winning.

Sportsbetting is a skill based game that involves analysis skills to increase your chance of winning.

It’s proven by some professional bettor since they manage to achieved high winning percentage with positive PnL. There’s also value betting that gives you an edge if you manage to spot them.

For an average sports bettor. Luck play an important part for their analysis to become successful.

Sure, one can improve in sports analysis, but I don’t think it’s possible to perfectly predict the outcome of every game, I believe it all still depends on luck since this involves predicting the real life performance of real people. It only takes one with psychic abilities to master sports betting, for ordinary people, regardless of how good your analytical skills are, you still need the luck factor to validate your predictions since you can’t really tell what will happen in the future. It’s a lot more different with poker since opponent is right next to you, it’s easier to master the person’s strategy and come up with a counter strategy, same thing with when you’re dealing on stocks and bonds, it’s easier to predict their patterns but humans aren’t completely predictable you know, and that’s what makes it impossible to master sports betting.

I do believe sports betting can be learned as there are people who make a living at it. I can’t prove I’m one of them yet, I’m still bleeding a bit from learning, but I treat those losses as tuition. If I get this right later, I expect to recover what I lost and then some.

But it’s not magic. To get there you need a plan and discipline. Start with how much bankroll you can actually afford, set rules for stake sizing and stop-loss, and manage it for the long term. Short bursts won’t tell you if you’ve really improved, you need time, tracking, and honesty about mistakes.

I have gotten better than before but no matter how good you become, you will lose your bets when you are bound to, you can not prevent losses that were meant to happen, you can be skilled to win so many of your bets but for games that will make you blow your money, you won't see it before it happens, that's because you are not lucky to see it. Meanwhile, no matter your skill in sports, you don't have to joke with luck. Betting is a game of skill unless you decided to just care less on making prediction but just want to totally depends on random prediction without making a detailed findings of what can be possible and what won't be possible in the game. Skill, gives you more edge than someone that is just making random prediction, but both depends on luck.

This is correct. Losses is inevitable on gambling no matter how good you are because even a pro still have a winning percentage that borderline above 50% to 60% winning percentage.

They all rely on the PnL rather than winning percentage so they mostly choose a match that pay a good odds.

Luck is always important on any games that has risk involved no matter how good we are on analysis because there’s some factor on sports that can’t be analyzed accurately.

Until i see actual peer reviewed statistics of someone improving in sports betting in long time, i call any one claiming they have a liar.

Obviously someone can get better results then they had when they came in, but i don't believe that's something to do with skills.

Everyone bragging about their ROI is often deleting and forgetting any former public betting data where they lost. This i have witnessed with my own eyes done by people / groups that are giving free and paid tips.

Sports betting is not all about analysis and skill but also needs luck to win. However, having the two (good analysis and skills) plays a more important part in betting than luck. This is different from slots and any pure-luck-based games, where you are completely relying on luck, not on skills.

But despite saying this, when we say gambling, nothing assures us. And even mastering sports, losing remains inevitable. That is why we can't leave the confidence of winning, even gambling for many years. We can't manipulate results to make us always win, as gambling is always a win-lose situation.

There's no illusion here because you would definitely have to use a certain style to play.
Unlike any other endeavor out there, practice would result in perfection that even a mistake in betting odds selection might just become pure luck.

There are strategies older gamblers may have subconsciously or consciously learnt and put into practice and while they may go by different names these days, the one I know up my sleeves has to do with checking statistics and comparing bookmakers odds on various platforms, checking previous results of the various teams I intend to use. I also decide if I am going to cashout or wait until the results play out, before the time is up.

More betting time equals more luck because muscle memory is built subconsciously and a newbie gambler would always have that scent that the oldies have outgrown.

No matter how experienced a person gets with betting there’s always that part of it that comes down to luck you can study the stats analyze every possible factor and still lose because something unpredictable happens that’s just the nature of gambling and especially sports anything can change in a few seconds an injury a bad call or even weather. Getting better with time definitely helps though experience teaches you discipline and patience it helps you know when to bet how to manage your bankroll and when to stay away from risky matches that’s the difference between someone who bets smart and someone who just throws money around skill gives you control over your decisions but not over the outcome.

You’re right that even professionals lose they just lose less because they manage risk better most of them care more about their profit and loss overall than their win percentage they look for value bets where the odds are higher than the real probability that’s how they stay profitable even if they only win slightly more than half their bets. Luck always stays in the picture because no one can predict sports perfectly there are too many moving parts analysis gets you closer to the truth but it doesn’t guarantee success that’s why good bettors always stay humble they know they can win today and lose tomorrow.

Honestly, its a mix of both in my opinion and skill and luck. You can definitely improve by studying stats, trends, and managing your bankroll better, but you can never control the randomness of a game theres always unprecedented and unforseen events in any sports game. Even the most disciplined bettors lose sometimes. So yeah, you can get smarter at betting, but you’ll never be able to remove luck from the equation completely. Nope for my own experience, just betting on favorite team and based on their potentials but still win or lose on the result.

You can't master sports betting, unless you are a clairvoyant. Events are unpredictable to be guessed in a solid basis. You will always miss a detail or something which nobody expected. And then, you have three potential results for each match you place a bet on: team A wins, team B wins or a draw. It means you don't have 50% winning chances, never.

It's not different from the casino's roulette, where some people believe they are playing from equal to equal against the casino due to picking red or black houses, although they forget there is also a third one, the green house (zero number). The gambler's chances are always in disadvantage, so it's just a matter of time until they lose.

Luck is necessary to make quick profit and then quit forever, if you don't want to lose your prize on further betting sessions.

From my point of view, to win at gambling, we have to depend on luck as well as research because the future is uncertain, we do not know exactly what will happen in the future. Therefore, to win at gambling, we cannot rely only on luck, nor can we ensure victory by relying only on research or strategy. We have to depend on luck as well as research to win at gambling.

All luck? No -  it’s what they call a skill-based game. The name itself tells you that you can actually develop and master your skills in sports betting. Don’t close your mind to the idea that it’s possible to be profitable; if others can do it, then we probably can too.

But of course, there’s a limit. You can’t just keep burning money without seeing any real improvement. At some point, you have to step back and evaluate if your strategy’s really working or you’re just gambling on hope.

I got better because I know how to manage my bank roll properly than before. I did not believe in making huge amount of money from gambling and I use small amount of money to gamble. That is what I learned from experience over time as I continued to gamble.

About getting better in making money through gambling, I do not think of it at all because I know the end will not be good. I prefer to just get better in managing my bankroll instead.

It is better to refer to it as controlled gambling. No matter how good you are at analyzing sports bets, the outcome depends on the matches. Many factors influence the games, which means we also cannot ignore the role of luck in sports betting.
Analysis and predictions can be made, but the course of the game may not go smoothly. That doesn't mean we are bad at making predictions. Even the best teams can lose. We are just betting with the best possible chances of winning.

I don’t get how people can rely on luck when they have no control over it. With skill, at least you can be confident, you know what you’re doing. You build that confidence, and sure, you still hope to get lucky sometimes, but it’s not your only bet.

You can be consistent with your skills, but never with luck. That’s the difference. Even if you have ups and downs, you’ll still end up ahead eventually, because you’re smart with your approach and you’ve proven that you can actually be profitable.

You can master the betting in sports and that is an advantage but does not mean that you will be perfect on that field.
remember even bookies do failed also, It is a big advantage but luck still a factor in every game. here in our country we call it Bilog ang Bola.
Even the worst team can beat the leading team in the league.

anyone here remember the series of Dallas (1st) vs GSW (8th seed), GSW won 4-0.

You need both to succeed in sports betting. You need to have the knowledge and skill, and you also need to be lucky. You can analyse everything right and still lose. Over the weekend, if a person had played Barcelona to score at least 2 goals, that is a reasonable bet. Barcelona always score more than one goal, especially when it is a team they are better than, but not only did Barcelona lose the game, but they also scored only one goal in the match.

Now, if you had been lucky enough not to include Barcelona in your parley that day, you might have won. That is where luck comes in. A person who played Sevilla to win against Barcelona was just lucky; there is no rational behind it, but you can't use that luck alone to play multiple offsets and win. That is why you need luck, knowledge of the team and proper analysis of both teams.

I have gotten better with time, but luck is still a deciding factor. You can never be 100% sure of the outcome of a game. There is always a tendency for that game not going the way you predicted no matter how sure it might be,

I understand soccer betting better because it's a hobby, making it a little easier to make predictions. However, if someone asks about the odds of winning, they're probably less than 50%. The rest of me doesn't have the ability to make predictions for any bet because I'm not a skilled gambler. Being controlled is probably more about how you handle things, and more responsible people are usually more relational about how they spend their money on any bets they make.

I've tried gambling on several sites, and of all the gambling models I've tried, perhaps only soccer betting is much easier for me to understand. Maybe it's because most of us enjoy the sport, but the winning percentage of each bet we place also depends on luck and sometimes it goes as predicted.

I believe yes. But the same way as poker and trading, it cannot be perfected to the extent that you will always be right. You can learn the basics and master them, but it doesn't mean it will always go your way.

Let's not forget, it's a market in trading that is being moved by people who are buying and selling. In gambling, you don't have an idea of what will come next. A sports game could change in a buzzer-beater, sudden bad health, injuries, or other factors. In poker, you don't know the cards of your opponents, you are just trying to read them and make a strategy out of it.

Although in my own understanding I see that research helps a Gambler to be more accurate in his prediction in a way that out of 10 game selection/prediction it is possible that 8 or 7 out of 10 may be guaranteed to win, meaning that there is a high possible of %80 accuracy in such gambler prediction. But even as that, it doesn't still guarantee %100 accuracy but atleast such gambler will be better than some gamblers that doesn't follow up analysis. The fact is that no matter the analysis, strategy, odd study and all tactics, wining is just by luck and not by how well you know how to predict because even people that call themselves expert even lose.

Man gambling entirely can be very confusing so mastering anything that has do with gambling might not be possible, man this can be deceitful sometimes, I don't think anyone can master that game call gambling no matter how good you're in analyzing matches or will I say games with all your strategies it will still mess you up many times, I believe you understand what I meant, personally I predict my game with head to head and the form of the two teams meeting each other but I understand as a gambler that even with my conclusion on the selection to go for, my bet is not still certain so I wait to see if luck will come my way.

Lets ruled out about luck because everybody know that all of gambling games is required luck including sport betting but similar to poker sport betting too games based skill which mean skill also required because it is impossible to gets profit consistently from this game if we only pick the random option and don't have any skill to predict the outcomes of the particular games
Personally i am still unable to mastering the skill in sport betting that because it's quite often my prediction got missed and i was lost my money but speaking about the master of skill in sport betting i think no one can really do that because good skill and experience sometimes cannot beat unpredictable results

No one can be a master in betting, even though it's possible for you to have some advantages due to experience. That's the reason why I don't really buy the idea when people say that they are professional gamblers, there's no such thing. Those that are experienced do more of research and proper analysis before betting, this can only reduce the risks involved but it doesn't mean winning is guaranteed

I did not understand well what you mean by master sports betting but I agree with the second part of your topic title that betting means luck. In any sector of gambling, a good luck is needed if you want to win from there. You can maybe win some in the field of sports through your skills. Because here, based on the performance and reputation of a club, some matches can be easily predicted when a strong team plays against a weak team. But this skill does not always work. Sometimes luck is needed. In the field of gambling, only the one who has a good luck can get something good from there.

Sports betting is all about luck nothing else can bring winnings to you when the luck is not there. So it should always be our number one priority because no amount of research that can easily keep you winning all the time without losing, that is while we need to gamble with the amount that we can easily afford to let go when the result didn't end in our favor because the game is mostly for the casinos than the gamblers.

What's there to master? Oddmakers know their game and give odds accordingly, they aren't there to give money on silver platter. But, there may be opportunities every once in a while especially with in-play betting that you may be able to take advantage of, though it's still luck.

Gambling is a game where luck is more important than skill. And if it is about betting on sports, then everything will depend on your luck because if the team or players you bet money on do not play well or if luck does not support them, then you will be the victim of financial loss. So even if you are a skilled gambler, if luck is not on your side, it is not possible for you to win.

The fact is that no one can master sport betting but what happens over time is that you only becomes more experienced and learn that gambling should not be taken seriously, so older gambler's become more cautious about the way they bet. Gambling is something that is really difficult to master if not older gambler should have mastered it well and would have become millionaires.


Winning in gambling doesn't require experience even someone who starts today can win big when the luck shines on him, there is no amount of research that someone will do and say that they have mastered gambling when luck smiles on you you smiles.

It can be learned but it still depends on luck. It depends on luck as long as you who've learned and acquire the skills isn't the one on the field of play. Remember, player stats can be topnotch yet player fumbles on the field of play. Players can't read your mind to find out what you're bets are on. If those who bet are still going to be those who will play on the field, we may rule out the luck factor. In order not to participate in games and rig it, that's why players who are still active aren't allowed to play bets.

Which I'm one of those people who believe that gambling is purely based on luck, though I'm not against making research. of course is good to make analysis before betting so as to reduce your chance of losing, Because if you're betting randomly it will be very difficult for luck to locate you than when you're being careful to make selection.


The only way I feel that I'm getting better is knowing more options, because when I get started I wasn't familiar with some options but with time I start knowing them one after the other and I would say that knowing this options also reduce my chance of losing.

being good at analyzing previous games and knowing where the team stands based on their performances increases your chances of placing the right bets but it doesn't mean all is well because sometimes the team itself got unlucky or just got a bad day and sometimes that is out of our control that is why we bet after all betting is not a sure thing

Even the most skilled trader that is very knowledgeable when it comes to trading also expirence some losses most times when he trade crypto. And the reason for the losses during trading is because the market always changes. Same thing applies to gamble, their is no guarantee on the game, you might win today and still lose the next minutes. You should be asking how consistent can a gambler become lucky when he's gambling. Which you know that luck does not happen all the time.

Oddsmakers make money by providing the betting lines, which is different from sportsbooks that actually take the bets. If you’re talking about sportsbooks, they don’t lose money when someone wins because they’re not the ones betting against the players. It’s bettors versus bettors.

The sportsbook just takes the action and makes sure the lines they use from the oddsmakers guarantee a small profit. That’s how they earn through commissions, or what we usually call the “juice.”

If you want to know how to play sport bets, then you will need to have more experience in watching football and any other related sports activities, get updates from sites and sport news platforms, you will be more closer to know more and to win better, because you will know on what to bet upon and the kind of choice to make when placing your bet, this should be the most simplest of all because its by our own analysis on sports that brings the luck and not our inexperience could drive luck to us in playing sport bets.

Those who repeatedly lose at casino gambling and cannot keep their winnings, become interested in sports betting because they think that while casino gambling has the influence of the casino owner, there is no such scope in sports betting. Because everyone can see the results directly. Some gamblers do extensive research on sports betting because they think that if they can do good research, they will definitely win. But even though experience and skill are important in sports betting, there is no chance of certainty, which is why you have to bet depending on luck.

Primarily luck. If it was possible to master sports betting then some people who have done this must be getting rich from this. Right? And we don't really see this happening. Because of that you can't claim that it is possible to master it. We have seen so many times the expected outcome to be completely backwards against all odds.

You can't. If you could you would be rich. Find me the person who has mastered it as you say.

There are times where I have seen complete newbies outperform masters by making almost random bets. That should tell these people who don't understand that it is primarily luck to drop the subject. If it was about mastery then it would never be possible for a newbie to have better performance than a so called master.

Of course, experience is the foundation for betting better than other players, who understand it far less. But a player's success depends on more than just that, as it's also necessary to understand various subtleties to increase your win rate. These include the secrets of professionals, clever strategies, choosing the best odds from bookmakers, controlling yourself and your emotions in critical situations, and adhering to strict money management rules. All of this combined will yield a positive result, and only if your luck is no worse than that of the average player. Therefore, it's possible to make money from betting, but it's incredibly difficult. For example, I couldn't do it.

There are people who have mastered the skills of predicting match outcomes but nothing I certain. There have been cases of big teams losing surprisingly to small clubs. In the last World Cup, Saudi Arabia defeated Argentina which was highly unpredictable. To me, I would say that you need some level of analytical skills to be a good sports bettor. You would have to learn how to gather and analyse games to win some games. But some games are determined by luck because you would never have expected the outcome.   

Both luck and strategy plays their parts, but sports betting is definitely something that can be learned over time. I won't say that I have gotten better though because it's not something I do often to enforce a certain level of perfection. I just do it when I feel like, or when It feels like it's been a while since I last did it. Though, I can say that I have a certain level of understanding when it comes to sports betting that I apply whenever betting.

I still depend on luck most times because I like going against odds when I observe certain possibilities. So, both luck and skill plays a very crucial role even if it requires mastering how it works.

There is a possibility to master sports betting but despite such skill, there's absolutely no guaranteed result on your end.

Remember that gambling revolves around luck. Even if sports-betting can be considered as a skill-based and knowledge-based game, there are still factors that you cannot take into account which will always give you a mixed result. Even if you may have all the information at your disposal regarding on a certain team, there still exists that possibility of a random luck which is against your favor.


I agree with you.

Like what I mentioned above, everything revolves around luck. Nothing is certain in the world of gambling considering that it exists on its very nature of probability and luck. Even if you may have all the luck in the world, nothing is still guaranteed as there are two sides of the coin.

You are absolutely correct that is the real truth about it because watching football and engaging in other related stuff is the easiest way to navigate the industry.

Sometimes we often think that luck is everything without realizing that your efforts in exploring more about sports can increase your chances of getting winning in gambling because it is only when you help yourself by doing some research before luck would see you through in your prediction.

If you are sports bettor, then for sure as time goes by, you might be better because you might have seen games before in your mind and you know the possible best outcome and so you will bet on that. So yes, to answer the question, as per my own experience, the more games you bet and the longer you followed that sports, you will have something to come up with unlike before when you don't have that kind of experience, you just bet and then when you lose, you realized your mistakes.

Definitely there is still this element of luck, but it's more on your experience as a sports bettor that can mean a big win or a L on your side. I don't think that there is an illusion of strategy here because you are the one that make the bet and stake everything base on your own analysis and not others or it is not influence by outside factors.

Skills in sports betting are a plus for sports bettors with experience but in the end luck factor mostly determines outcome of bets but luck doesn't undermine the importance of skills because skills gives bettors better chances of winning. The more you master a perticular sport and understand the teams and players the better chances you'll have of making correct predictions which can give you win. Skill based games gives gamblers better chances of winnings because they get to analyze than games that are totally dependant on luck to win like slot.

And the thing is that most of us might have followed when we are still a young kid and so with that, it's already a advantage if we grow up and then just decided to play sports betting and not those luck base games we found in casinos.

Yes, we can't deny luck in sports betting, but I will say that it could be that 90% of us winning could be base on seeing many games in years and doing our own research + experience = master sports bettor for some of us here.

Just look at threads about NBA, UFC, Football and Tennis threads, some of those that share their prediction are really that good.

As far as I can remember, we have talked about this before, sports betting is not completely a game of only luck such as aviator or dice, sports betting is a game that requires the bettor to have a good skill in make prediction and this skill is based on the concrete knowledge the person has in sports activity being a fan of sports. I have said it before that when I first started betting, I didn't know much on how to make accurate prediction but as I started learning, it got better.

Sports betting isn’t pure luck, skill and research matter a lot. Tracking stats, player form, and market movement can give a real edge over random guessing. Still, luck decides short-term results.

To answer this question correctly, you need to understand its essence: is it possible to learn to predict game outcomes more accurately? Of course it is, as game outcomes depend on many factors, and understanding these factors and their combination will give you a more accurate assessment than simply guessing.
And a completely different question is whether you can master the art of predicting better than bookmakers. I think the answer here is obvious, even without taking into account that you're not competing on equal terms with the bookmaker (the margin is in their favor).

I remember reading about a big syndicate located somewhere around Asia/Australia that were making money doing arbitrage between casinos, but I have a feeling that they were working in tandem with the bookmakers to offset some risk when the book became too weighted in one direction. They were dealing with million dollar bets, so a whole nother league. On a much lower level I've seen horse racing as the best place for people to make money, because the odds can change wildly in the few days before and right up to the minute of the race. I have seen completely mispriced odds the day before, but bookmakers will only let you take a profit doing this for so long.

When you are betting a game it's not all about players stats, injuries, better record, better coach, etc. Those things collectively play a role in you making a decision on how to bet, but all of these things together are how you make your decision.

Let's use NFL football as an example. You are looking at a game where a team is facing the Denver broncos. Denver has the number 1 offensive line in the NFL currently. That doesn't guarantee they will win every game or cover every spread, it just means that they do an excellent job of opening up running lanes for the running back and they defense has a hard time getting to the quarterback for sacks. The quarterback has time to throw the ball basically. On top of that they have a top 5 coach in the NFL, and a top 5 Defense currently.

The opponent better be damn good otherwise I am looking at Denver to cover most spreads under 7 points.

Just because you know a stat or 2 doesn't mean much if you don't know what the stat means. You have to understand what you're reading as well.

Then you have to control yourself on betting. Don't go allin on 1 game and be fucked if the game doesn't cover. Bet in units and only bet 1 unit on games you feel ok on, and 2 units and games you feel strong about. Give yourself a chance to recover if a bet loses.

There is nothing wrong with studying sports betting and conducting research. In fact, doing this will even make you enjoy the game more, and at least you don't have to gamble blindly, but can bet according to what you feel is right. Learning about sports and sports betting is not a guarantee to win, but with the knowledge you gain, the chances of getting lucky and winning will increase.

Doing research to learn about sports betting is not bad; in fact, it is even encouraging for gamblers, but one doesn't have to do this to think of winning. Engaging in this research does not make gambling certain; instead, it makes it more interesting and provides an advantage to gamblers.

No, you can't. It is like saying I know who is going to win in a game because I learned all the stats about the two teams, their recent form and their one-on-one history.  And if were a game then that is obvious that one is going to win then it is not worth to bet on it because the rewards will be too low like 1.1x which isn't tempting for most and even with that kind of odd you can't say I will never lose the game.

To make money from sports betting, it’s not enough to just study and analyze game statistics there are many other calculations involved. Those who gamble and use this activity as a source of income actually experience a lot of stress, because there’s no 100% guarantee that everything will go as predicted.

I guess yes people can master this. But you need to dedicate all of your time researching data's and get updated with latest events also other happening in the league.

You need to have long term edge over the bookmakers and have data driven strategy before you can reach up on that situation.

But this is really so hard and not everyone have lots of time to do those things needed that's why only few people succeed on this.

Analysis isn't easy, in any case, it's only part of the process of making a choice. Analysis helps minimize mistakes when choosing a team to bet on. Of course, analysis can be stressful, as it involves more than just the final score of a team's matches, their history and other, it also involves understanding other factors such as player performance, lineups, and physical condition. This requires a significant effort from a bettor before take a decissions.

No body can master sport betting people win base on luck but that is after you have done some good prediction, when i start gambling and now there is an improvement i win more often now than when i started so even before luck come you have to also put some hard work to be able to analysis and gamble on games that have that gives you high chance of winning, those who analysis and predict well may likely win than some one who just rely on luck without doing some analysis. So winning required both skill and luck.

Obviously sport betting is far different from poker and trading, even though alot of gamblers is proclaiming that they've improved over time and I think that's in the aspect of being familiar with some certain clubs and in the side of bankroll management just as you said, and also about risk management And also implementing new strategy that can as well draw them closer to win which they can also experience lose most times as this is the only areas which a guy can make improvement in gamble. But if it's improving to the extent of making continuous profit from gamble, I think they must be joking.

Yeah luck have a big role of play in any aspect of gambling be it slot games or sports games, but let's not forget the fact that sports betting still needs some understanding to pick the right odds or potential winning odds so instead of using the word "master" sports betting I think people should rather say understand sports betting cause no matter how you master it the house edge still supercede and the bettor still have to fall back to being lucky, yes those who understand the game, analyse the stats, forms and potential of different teams would likely have a better chances of winning than someone who doesn't.

Despite the unpredictable nature of football game, and those situations you made mention about that can happen in a football match, you still have to do all you can to be good at what you do by mastering and understand betting and by using those statistical data, teams current form at the time of the game, and regardless that football is also based on luck, you're a bit better than someone who is betting blindly.

I agree with that.
People think that spending more time on sports and watching live games, focusing on a particular game, makes it easier to predict which team will win the game. However, this will still give assurance because even betting only on the favorite team never wins. Which means that even after mastering sports betting, there is no way to make it perfect. Losses are still there, but at least our chances are higher than those who do nothing. That is why some take this as an opportunity because they believe that sports betting is profitable based on their experience.

Your extent of understanding of games might vary with some people having better understanding of games but there's no way you're going to be able to master sports games completely well. Of cause, those that take it seriously put in extra effort to ensure that they learn the structure of games but what that only helps them do is that there chances of winning increases outside of which, they are still going to depend on how lucky they are in the game.

The result from sports games are a combination of how good your analytical skills are as well as how lucky shines on you. Those are the only things you are capable of influencing outside of which there's nothing you can. Do again.

Sports betting is indeed different from other bets, of course why people like to gamble on sports, apart from the chance of winning a large percentage and also the payout is also large.
Luck or mastery, which is essentially sports betting, most people who place bets have a chance to win, we can predict the flow of play of the team and the teams competing, with analysis and history of their matches we can master which team has a greater chance.

For example Malta vs. Netherlands, you don't need to rely on luck just to see the Malta team and the Dutch team, it is 90% certain that the Netherlands will win, as well as boxing, tennis and so on, all of them have a track record of their matches.

I think you improve over time in sports betting. You learn the leagues you bet on and that you can have a high chance of winning and the ones you completely avoid and save your money. You learn the different betting style and when to do a parlay, when to use the cash-out option and many others. In my estimation, they are highly critical skills which a sports bettor must master to give them some edge and shield them from losing money or gambling without self-control.

I agree with some who argue that everything can change once the match starts, meaning there's still a luck factor involved. But I don't entirely agree with that, as analysis is also essential in sports betting. Analysis is a key technique, although ultimately, luck is the determining factor.

Some time ago, Manchester City played against Brentford & Manchester City was playing away. Based on analysis, the match should have ended 1 - 3 or 0 - 3, but what happened was contrary to most expectations, resulting in Brentford 0 - 1 Manchester City.

In gambling nothing you can master that will give you wining, you can master the background of sporty betting and other functions of betting, like knowing how to book games, different kind of games, also knowing the odds of the games, so many people can know same thing too, but for the aspect of knowing the games that will gives you wining, I don't think that such thing is possible, because gambling is not something that is guaranteed, we all have understood gambling as something that have to do with luck, and if you win, it because you're opportune to win at the moment, if sporty bet is something someone can master, that means that gamblers would have be recording wins every day in gambling.

Mastery? You could be on the positive side if you’ve honed your skills plus luck. As for mastery itself, well, there’s no way you can accurately predict or always win. Earning a consistent profit is already hard enough, let alone achieving mastery. Just be happy if you manage to stay positive in the long run because there’s no such thing as true mastery in sports betting. It still requires luck no matter how much data you gather. Data and analysis can help, but they can’t guarantee a sure win.

Sure, you can never compare your experience from when you started gambling and this current stage. I'm sure that alot of things have changed, I remember when I was new into gambling then, I never thought about making analysis before betting. I do make random predictions and after that, I will have to place my bet and start hoping to get a positive result. but after going with this method for several times at it seems not to work as I expected then, I start looking into trying a different thing. I start consulting different sites for assistance then I start seeing some wining probability, and now I think I have not been losing in gamble unlike before.

I think that’s the best definition of master - being profitable in the long run.

It’s impossible to win every single time, but it’s definitely possible to win most of the time. With the right skills, not just in predicting results but also in having proper discipline, especially with bankroll management, a gambler can actually end up being profitable. Who knows, maybe even reach the point where they can make a living out of sports betting.

Why not, we can master to play sport bets, but before this could be fully achieved, we have to spend more of our time learning and playing, even at the least amount we could afford to play and learn, then we are not doing this all because we wanted to have a more winning edge in playing it, so as to turned sport a source of income, but in having a more better understanding of how to enjoy gambling with the acquired competence in us, as perfection is good in everything we do.

I'm really struggling about this question on my mind before i just came across of it, with my passed experience so far and the current situation on how games is really playing i will be honest to myself that I'm not seeing myself being a master of sports betting because I'm founding it very difficult to be victorious over a placed bet in my online better account, even when i stake with the clubs that I'm sure of them winning yet they will end up lossing, for example i played Silver to lose to Barcelona but it happened that Barcelona lost that particular match, so i will so that winning games this days is tactically based on luck not being a master of sports betting.

Research or analysis of a match that will be held between two different teams will only bring you closer to the possibility of getting the right prediction, it is only an approach method and there is no guarantee that the prediction from your analysis results can get a win, many unexpected things on the field that make the match unpredictable completely, but if it goes according to what you expect and the match runs normally without any interference as you said the possibility of winning the bet is much greater than just guessing, logically if analysis can guarantee your success, more rich people will be born from betting if someone can predict correctly every bet by only relying on such analysis.

It can be learned but first you will have to understand how events happen. If you are a good analyst in football, you will have to be very active in football than any other games, you just have to choose one and don't have to be jack of all trade. Some people want to be expert in basketball and also be an expert in football, you can understand them both but you can't be that good and professional in the two games because their ideas are not the same.

You have to also learn to understand how to leave emotions out of the way. I can bet on my team to lose if I'm confident about it. I'm not doing it because I don't like them, I did it because that's how the game was. Learn to also understand how to play with instinct, some gamblers has this rule of not changing their mind after booking games until they loss the bet, I don't joke with my instincts if I don't feel right about a game that I book, I can change mind later.

Some sports bettor manage to have an accurate analysis by using specific method to analyze data available. Same with poker, if you knew how to analyze well you can increase your chance of winning especially if you consider many scenario on the game on consider it on your analysis.

Sports betting already has a lot of betting type which the point spread is  very popular since it provides margin of error that will cover a minor mistakes on someone analysis.

Still, luck is crucial on sportsbook because it’s handy on a game that you commit mistake on analysis due unconsidered factor.

It pure luck but the only thing you can only analyze the best possible outcome of a match but it not something you can bank on. If there is mastery to sport betting we would have at least known about an individual who has mastered it. If there is mastery to it do you think Gamblinb will still exist till today, the bookmakers won’t be making profit and would have stopped.

Just as no one knows about the future that how it is, if there is mastery to it the there won’t be prediction instead you will jus say what going to happen.

With time, so far I know and I lose, but that I Kwon is that I have learnt how to gamble responsibly, I have learn to believe there is nothing sure in gambling.

Sports can be learned and maybe some people can master it but it does not mean that once someone master it, he has 100% winning chance because luck is also involved in sports.
Something unexpected may happen in a match that cant be predicted such as red card(s) on football which may make the game changed significantly.
The same also applies for poker game, it can be learned and some people can master it due to practices but luck will still involved.

Sports betting isn't only about luck, skills are also useful in determining betting success. The longer you bet, the better you develop your skill level, when to manage risk and how to pick your odds despite the risk to that particular event.

Yes, sports betting can be mastered but not perfected, skill + luck+ experience (mastery).

Not just luck, I have had risky wins with my years of experience than i did when i started gambling, someone depending solely on luck won't be successful as another that utilizes both luck and skill with several years of experience.

With the little experience I have gathered in sports betting, I do not see a way that someone can truly master it. I believe that winning depends mostly on luck, because unexpected things happen in sports betting especially in football.Let’s just look at what happens almost every week in football: one big team will lose to a weaker team that no one expected them to lose to. And it's not necessarily because the key players are injured or their performance is reduced it just happens like that.

Some research and analysis can bring luck sometimes, but I wouldn’t say anyone can master sports betting. If someone had mastered it, they would always get good results. For example, if they placed five bets, they would only lose one or two out of the five, and they would always get the results they expected.But I don’t think there’s anyone who has been consistently betting on sports and is always winning more than they lose in everything they bet on.

A random mistake can ruin everything, but for a single bet, and if you practice risk management, it won't affect you in the long run. Trading can be learned, too, but how many successful traders remain who trade profitably? I think the same is true for betting, this can be learned by developing your own strategy and being disciplined enough to resist the temptation to bet on individual matches. I believe some bets have a higher probability of winning. Evaluate all bets with the same degree of risk, determine a safe bet, and stick to it without exception.

Even in that understanding there is still one big factor which covers the basic reality of you winning and that's the luck factor there is absolutely no way to go about without inputting the fact that no matter what game you pick or play there is still this factor that overrides everything although some may argue that it's different with sport betting but trust me even in sports betting you would still need to be lucky because things can virtually change within a matter of seconds.

sports betting You can have the best skill and upgrade your prediction knowledge base on experience, which will help you in the long run, but that does not still change the fact that anything can happen on the field that will affect the outcome of the match just as you have predicted it, which is where luck comes into play. If you are unlucky, unplanned things will happen that will jeopardize everything you have predicted, and if you are lucky, congratulations to you.

The truth part of this all is that there's no winning without luck, even if you have mastered the game you also need luck to win the game. Sport games are very intense, because if it's not, weaker teams can not be winning the stronger team some times. However, the funniest nothing about sport games is that, the weaker teams mostly win the strong teams when almost everyone have believed that the stronger team will defeat wick team. So the game is all about luck and not even strategy. Strategy only helps sometimes but it still needs luck.

Sport betting is something straight forward and also tricky, you can learn it, but if you are also a footballer or basketballer, you can get it clearer than who is just betting and have no experience about the games.

Talking about football, you can be a good gambler in football games without been a football player, you just need to be good with analysis and also make sure you study the current form of players and teams, and also take note of their recent games and their head to head performances, if you can get everything right, your predictions will be easy because there are several options to bet. You just need to chose the one you believe will play and get irrespective of the odds, and I am sure if you pick limited games and stake good money, you will win.

Mastery means an experienced sports bettor. That's an advantage instead of just guessing randomly.

But let's not forget that we are talking about gambling here, where luck still plays a big role.

Therefore, why rely on pure luck alone? Combined with our "mastery" and "experience" to increase our winning chance.

yeah imo, sports betting is not entirely luck there is a lot of skill &  strategy. Professional bettors always look for value bets that have a higher probability of winning than the bookmaker. Bankroll management is very important, the loss of a bet can be reduced, the chance of losing money by making too many mistakes is reduced. i think the biggest difference is consistency &   discipline, also   a mindset of learning from mistakes. Those who gamble only out of emotion &  are anxious to get a lucky streak, often end up with big losses, I think.

There can be some level of mastering in sports betting that can give you huge advantage in gambling. If you rely on luck in a game like sports betting, you will be humbled  by unbreakable loss. I'm not not neglecting the importance of luck because it is also needed to avoid certain matched such as those you will play the underdog, who are usually given bigger odd, to win.

In sport betting I don't think there is anything like mastering because sports that I know are volatile, that means a team could be unbeatable and end up lossing to a small team, having mastered their game play you could swear they will win but at the end they loss. Perhaps luck plays a crucial role too but then strategy and luck combine is a show killer.

 You can study everything in sports betting, master all the teams their best formation and their best position to win games but they doesn't give you a guarantee that you're going to be successful your betting, you can even select the most informed teams in your betting but end up becoming so unlucky because the decision of the referee during each game is not the same something can happen and it will spoil all the analysis you calculated before placing the bet.

Every gambler has their own way of choosing which team to bet on, but the fact is that most will list the favorite team to win on their betting slip. I think it's a reasonable decision considering the odds of winning the bet are quite good, but the favorite team is never guaranteed to win either. I think this is the easiest approach to win bets regardless of knowledge or experience, meaning the favorite team tends to win and you don't have to bother analyzing so much data from previous match history.

The gambling approach I've mentioned isn't always profitable. Favorites tend to have low odds, sometimes excessively low when they face relatively weak opponents. However, there are always gamblers who will only bet on favorites. They might have a winning streak, but a single loss could wipe out several winnings.

Gambling cannot be separated from luck. Even if you become someone who is very good at making analyses. 
If asked to choose, honestly, I would rather be a person with good luck in gambling than the best in analysis. 
However, sports betting can be learned. Teams or players that compete can be studied. The analysis we make before placing a bet can be considered a step to reduce the risk of losing. This is better than betting solely based on instinct.

Yes, it has been proven again and again that in sports betting, a bettor must rely on luck. In sports betting, we often see a strong team easily losing to a weak team. Although this result will not always be the same, no one knows which bet the stronger team will lose. There are many who choose a relatively strong team to win the bet, but there the victory is not guaranteed, rather the team loses due to overconfidence. If someone loses on this type of bet, their losses are much greater than others.

That's true. In sports betting, good skills can help us, and it could even be said to be sustainable in the long run. However, that doesn't mean it's free from luck. No matter how good your skills and knowledge are, luck still plays a role. As you said, anything can happen on the field and affect the outcome of a match. This is certainly something that luck involves.

However, I doubt that someone with good skills can win consistently. It's certainly a lucky bet if you can win consistently, but it's unlikely. And perhaps not many highly skilled people have good skills. I suspect quite a few people are interested in games that rely purely on luck, like slots, which don't require much skill to win, as winning depends solely on luck.

Funny, well I think am totally against that logic because in as much as we would want to master the act of gambling or making good analysis that yield good results there is still this huge factor that would override all our efforts almost all the time but to some extent it still plays a very big role in management of our winnings.

Luck is everything in the gambling industry be it slot games or even sport games like soccer and the rest although good analysis will get you an edge but even with that there is 100% possibility that your might turn out the other way round.

Mastering sport betting can be difficult most times because you might predict a current score or goal goal situation and it turns out to be a goal less draw, however one can still learn and actually be perfect in sport betting through analysis,you go back to previous games that the teams have played, watch their highlights and examine their style of play,stats, formation and tactics.
Most times it's all about been lucky as your predictions will all play out the way you have predicted them.
Personally I have predicted some games based on their previous stats,performances and won  the games.

I never really got why people want to become “pro” sports bettors. Those who try usually just end up losing money. Me and my mates used to throw in five or ten bucks each and make our own little pool while watching football. It made the matches way more exciting and a lot more fun to watch.

When I look back and do a self-evaluation of myself, I realize that in the past I didn't know how to analyze games, so I bet based on the favorite. Then I started learning to analyze games and my results improved. Over the years, analyzing many games constantly, I realized many mistakes I made in the past. So, it was clear that I only improved because I kept practicing. This shows that sports betting is about skills. It has nothing to do with luck. If someone keeps counting on luck in sports betting, then that person will constantly lose money and will hardly be able to win bets.

The only way to become true sports betting master is to get time machine car from back to the future and pull that almanac that has all the game scores from the past millenia because without that there is no way to be a master of sports betting

If we keep emotions aside, one can really master sports betting. Yea! One of the reasons people often lose is because most of the times, they follow their emotions instead of the main fact. Sports betting is one form of gambling that is easier to win with the right analysis. Even if a person who has mastered the skills of betting loses, the losses will not be much compared to a bettor who is only relying on luck.

I think yeah, there is some level of knowing that is associated with sports betting and that has to do with FIFA rankings of teams, injury situation, head to hand and many others for data and history. These do help to get a better insight on possible results and you don’t find this in casino gambling, not at all. In all that, you still wouldn’t attribute it all to knowing because, there are days the underdogs will just choose to surprise you and it wouldn’t matter all the statistics you’ve got at hand.

It's a pure lucky game, no expert or master in sport Betting, that's why you have to be careful when you're staking a bet. Stake with what you can afford to lose. Because you can't predict the outcome of a game always. Sometimes you can be lucky to have a good predictions then other days you will make wrong predictions. You can never be sure if a game, that's why you don't have to stake all you have in sport Betting. See it as pure luck. No one should claim to be master of it, even when you seem to be lucky for a while still be mindful of your stake so that you won't lose your winning.

If we have masters in sport Betting, many bet companies would've be bankrupt , but since it's unpredictable Venture everyone is just benefiting on the detriment of each other. No master no except, just keep playing till you make good profit or quite if your luck is low.

There are people that call themselves sport traders or punters and it's always funny to me because they are always confident in their perfections...sports betting is mostly difficult to win but occasionally some people manage to get lucky and they just assume that their strategy would always put them in profit but that's no how betting works, you can end up being lucky it doesn't mean that it's possible to always win

We may develop skills while playing, but the consistency of winning in games will not always be the same. Maybe by analyzing various types of information such as: which team is playing well, how many players are injured in which team and what is the style of play of which player, it may be possible to win once by knowing these skills. But winning repeatedly may not be a matter of luck. Because it is a matter of uncertainty. Even if you always play according to your skills, accidents can happen at any time at the last minute, such as: a goal can be scored at any time or a good player can get injured, etc. So no matter how good a bettor you are, the equation will not always be the same.

Yes, sports betting can be learn the same way we learn crypto trading and poker. However, it may not be as easy to learn as you think due to the stress and time spent on analyzing the player's performance/potential in the current season.

It is possible to experience a situation where one bad call or injury will affect the game you bet on, but at least you did not blindly make your betting decision or rely on luck that is nowhere to be found in sports betting, and there's high chance of you winning, or secure fund by cashing out early since you have the required about what you're suppose to do when things dont work the right way.

It is never based on luck, but I am more of a slot game player than a sports betting player.

I really like being confident, and that's good, but being overconfident isn't good here because feeling like a god just because of a stroke of luck you've never had before and/or a winning streak a few times, and yes, there are many people in gambling who feel that way and show it as if they are great. But a few days later, I reflected on it and asked people like that, and they said they lost because they were overconfident in gambling. I concluded that it started with overconfidence. Always winning in gambling is very difficult, or as they say, consistent wins are impossible in gambling. No one can do it, especially in games against machines like slots, which truly test luck.