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https://youtu.be/Lns_kN33FdA?si=wrlHV9DyqR_KUPWm Here is one of many videos about pastor Joel according to him he is a prophet at the house of Salem global and has a program called the church and Cryptocurrency. According to Mr Joel God has opened his eyes and showed him how Cryptocurrency is the future and how he should prepare his members for it.

I no go tell person wetin him go worship or wetin him go believe but we have seen how many religious leaders has  chopped money from their followers with different ways and format.
What Drew my attention Mr Joel is that his ministry created a coin called the Kingdom coin and he is aggressively promoting it to his members and members of the body of Christ. Recently I saw a post from a person complaining how he has lost holding the coins

I did my research on the Kingdom coin and I noticed that the market cap and circulating supply of the kingdom coin are all self reported that was the first red flag because since it is self reported their is no true authentication of that fact.

Religion is a business to many religious leaders and from creating schools where their members struggle to attend they are owning a cryptocurrency and it is business for them which they will use all theological, scriptural and spiritual tactics to promote it, beware.

  This is very very  wronng with the looks of it any one Investing in such token should open their eyes ,because who knows it could be a pump and dump scheme . with everything that is going on right  now it's hard to see anyone that is actually trustworthy . But then the fact that someone has already lost money in while holding the coin show's it's a red flag,  like truly speaking if the pastor has the mind to take  advantage of the members trust and mix their faith and believe of Christ with a financial scheme it's easy to say he is doing it out of a personal gain because basically the cryptocurrency he is pushing is actually a private one which means it's not decentralised it centralised, with t unverified data  for me it seems too good to be true ...... that's just it ,I believe every religion should just focus on serving God in church not trying to turn the house of the lord into a place when they make money it's not right...........

I think it is just an issue of mere ignorance but it is very dangerous for his followers because many people tend to be very religious and do not actually have a mind of their own(ability to discern) and may also share the same ideology with the clergy man thereby jeopardizing their chances of taking advantage of the financial benefits that is attached to Bitcoin, and perhaps before they realize this then it may have been a little bit late for them, this could also be part of the reason why some African countries are still underdeveloped, religion has done more harm than good to the african society.

But why are so Christians so gullible to any word that comes out from the mouth of human being they referred to as their man of or woman of God? For me, it's not a smart move to just stomp into action because a man of God has asked me to do something, what if what he said was not even by the inspiration of God but just his personal thoughts? We know how most of these men of God are so interested into becoming very wealthy for themselves all in the name of doing the work of God. A financial smart person would know that not all risk is worth taking, especially to invest in a token designed and name kingdom coin.

Even the bible talk say on the last days, false prophets go arise wey go dey motivated by self interest and go try to mislead the people. So dis tori nor surprise me at all. No be bad thing for a pastor to encourage his congregation to invest in Bitcoin or other altcoins like ETH, BNB, SOL, etc. But for a pastor to create a token in the name of a church and encourage his congregation to invest no make sense at all. Some people go don lose serious money because them follow their pastor sheepishly. Wetin happen no different from wetin some shady crypto influencers dey do their followers.

Dude I don't like discussing things that has to do with men and women of God but it is very obvious that some of these womene and mem of God has become problem in our society today constituting nuisance, you know some person will swim into action whenever their papa as they call them give them any message or prophecy be it real or fake because the have been brainwashed by the so called men and women, am not saying there are no men and women of God but the way things are going to even identify the real ones this days is rare and thats why everyone Christian out their should be over careful because devil might use some of them to tell you that your mother or your father are witches and wizards respectively.

Atleast with this bullshit called kingdom coin shit, it should be an eye opener for people to know that those men and women can go very far to do anything and the gullible ones will believe them to do what they command them to do.

The funniest part is that I clicked the link, which took me to the video. When I went through comment section, so many people were thanking the pastor that the coin he talked about they invested in it and it has really profited them. So I was now wondering who this people making this comments are and it dawned on me that most of this people are his members who have been swayed  and most people/members don’t know that this pastors are using them to cash out on a daily basis.

We should be ware of pastors of this generation because church is now a business to them and no longer a place where they bring people close to God.

I have noticed something that when people are dealing with spiritual leaders they lower their reasoning. Cryptocurrency will only be disfigured if pastors start to use their positions as spiritual leaders to sell their coins. Funny enough if the coin continues to go downwards the pastor can just tell his followers that it is his Gods will. Everything will be easy for the pastor to deceive his members to even buy more because of the control he has over them.

Similar to what ZUGA coin came up wirh sometimes ago, the zuga coin was said to be own by a bishops and the rumors have it that majority of his rich church members where talked into investing their life savings into this projectwith promises of high returns on investment, but several years have passed now and the zuga coin stilll remains un operational.

Avoid any shitcoins that are promoted by a religious or music stars because they tend to feed on the trust of their followers to sell out a bad product to them, almost 100% of those projects never ends well.

I see know point  blaming those Christians that so trusted there pastors to such extend of investing into cryptocurrency after  a pastor adviced because when one put so much trust in something, it  will make you believe everything coming from that direction must be of high benefit to you. Although some trust comes as a result of seeking for solution to a lasting problem that had know cure so once the solution is found from the hands of a man of god, he will identify the person as his saviour therefore building a trust that will make him do exactly what the pastor says.
As for investing in Bitcoin or other cryptocurrency because of the advice of a man of god, its not a good investment program because there job is not to advertise any program but preach the word of God

The first and major red flag is simply the fact that a church has and is promoting its own alt coin for people to buy. The idea should make anyone with a brain think about buying such a coin. Is it any surprising when the coin would surely fail, taking along all who was crazy enough to buy such a coin.
Ordinarily, the idea of a church having and promoting an alt coin is selfish enough, whoever put his money and bought shit like this squarely has himself to blame.

Well bro u will be surprised to how so many person are this gullible all in the name of the person behind the move they want to take or make is a man of God. Firstly we are all humans and we all gat greed and quest of being wealthy to battle, if anything atleast a simple research and background check won't hurt so bad to actually make before jumping and making drastic decisions all in the name that the person is very trustworthy because if the repercussion come you will be the one to bear the results.

One good thing about almost all major religions is that they have Holy Books. These books are everywhere for members to learn how to live their lives. If you are deceived or scammed by your Pastor, Imam or others, it's because you are greedy or too lazy to read the Holy book. You don't have to follow a preacher blindly; they are humans and not God.     

There will always be different claims from these so called me of God, whom I do wonder the kind of God they worship. The Bible has said it that there are many gods, and many lords, but there is one True God, and that True God will not come up to show anybody about money or cryptocurrency. This is another form of scam, where the members of his church will end up getting nothing at the end.


If I will ask, in which kingdom will such a coin be used? Cause if it is in heaven, money will not be recognized there, and even in hell, there will be no place to buy or sell. The Bible says My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge and that is what people are so lazy to get themselves equipped. The Bible is free for everyone to read and pray for understanding, the crypto community is an open source of knowledge, whereby everyone is free to read, learn, grow ask questions when and where necessary, but will not, looking for already made food.

Many pastors and church leaders are in cryptocurrency business, so if they invested in the time when bitcoin was low and now that the price is high, they have made a good or significant profit and instant God has shown them a vision to tell the members to invest. It would have been better if he tells them to invest or participate in cryptocurrency than telling them, God tells him. I am not against vision but it is good he tells them the truth than God say. I don see many Church Leaders e dey involved in crypto things dem. And dem fit use Church Seminars to teach members how to involve in cryptocurrency activities, if him dey teach them and no dey tell them to invest from him no problem but if di members go pay to him and him to invest for him then na there problem go casalaburst.

Which one come be church of cryptocurrency, hahaha. Well, inasmuch as it is not a problem if a pastor sees a valuable investment that can better the lives of his congregation and decides to persuade them to invest in it, but cryptocurrency is risky so telling the congregation to invest and going as far as naming his church ''church of cryptocurrency'', i think he is just in for scam because it seems that the 'kingdom coin' he introduced to them is just to entice them to invest then after he must have made a lot of money from it they might dump the coin and his church members get scammed. It is very unfortunate that people who call themselves men of God are developing different scam practices on their followers without even thinking about the repercussion as those who represents the Christian faith. I poor that man early morning spit sha  ;D

They really lower their reasoning because I don’t really know how some persons think. Most persons see their pastors as God. if their pastor ask them to put hand inside fire, they are ready to do it because they believe everything coming out from the supposed man/woman of God’s mouth is truth. So they tend to owe them more respect than any other person.

The truth is that, the holy bible is our guide as christians, even though a pastor is trying to make you agree what is not in the holy scripture, do not agree to that, you may not comfront the pastor facially, but you can ignore such instruction.
So many things are happening in the church today and sometimes you will become confused and ask yourself if it is the same scripture that all of you are reading

So many pastors today are money conscious, spending your money in the church willingly is the best thing to do, but nobody should use any form trick to extort money from you using the name of God, is a sin.

Good to hear this now a believe many of the people too can see this ,a create something like this someone was was saying church is a place of worship that bringing cryptocurrency topics in church is bad ,but now pastor said it , cryptocurrency is a business and church too is a business,you can share business ideas anywhere

Sincerely speaking nowadays the world is full of false clergy because of self interest some will come to you to prophecies in the name preaching whereas he or she is doing it for self interest one will come to preaching in the name of inspiration of God meanwhile his just for personal thought now it clarifies of how most of the clergy are calling themselves man of God so interested to become a wealthy person all in the name of acting a false action being man of God

Truly so call man God do act smart move to stomp but not all but few whom characterized themselves in such attitude really fraud and incase its affect even the  trustworthy ones why because clergymen are full fraudulent in the name of propheciesing coating the book of God whereas using it to joperdising with peoples emotions to gain their interest and be wealthy through them.

It might be true that business ideas and guidance can be shared anywhere but most times there can be misappropriation of orderliness and kind of misplacement of priority, church can organize a symposium for this kind of teaching where they may have various speakers or resources personalities to to speak on this specific topic and that will make more sense and reasonable, teaching about cryptocurrency in the church is not bad but it should have a well organized standard in doing it and that is my own opinion.

Never mix religion with business, don't go to a school only because it's owned by your pastor or invest into a business because it's affiliated with your church. Instead do your things personally and give God his own percentage as you wish.

God self go prefer make you help the needy then giving pastors money all in the name of giving God. There are lots of scams in the industry and pastors laughing coins are just one of them. God didn't call anybody to help the poor by stealing from others as that's how most of those projects usually ends when they make majority lose to benefits the minority.

If you wan buy coins, do research well and make sure what's you're about investing into has a purpose that can be achieved and not believing on false outcomes. Infact avoid all religious focused crypto projects before "had I known becomes your last statement"

That’s is how I believe Christianity should be and in a functioning society tithes and offering should be used to bless the members of the church wey Dey struggle.

One thing wey I think pastors wey Dey Nigeria Dey do and e Dey wrong na to influence their members in every aspect of life. Many of these Nigerian pastors has promoted politicians to their members and e no Dey right. Make pastors no use their position to sell market to their members.

Religion and cryptocurrency no suppose Dey intertwined.

Sorry to say most of the prophecies are right okay bitcoin mining or investing on Bitcoin we save us in future,things we become so cost that if not for crypto your salary can't afford to buy something.

So if pastor see what is coming I don't see it as bad thing

Because of how people do not understand how those tithe are being use in the church they give to charity home or visit the street every week to use the money for those beggars on the street, to a church mind they will think this money will not be seen as a tithe as it wasn't church they do it but they don't no that it mustn't be in a church. If things continues to unveil from most churches there will come a time in the future when worship will be done in a household worship instead of going to the church, is already happening gradually because a lot of people prefers streaming online or worshipping alone.

Am not saying that people can all be trusted, but we have to be watchful as well when it comes to religious matter, so that we don't commit what we shouldn't have as we discuss their affairs, this life, nothing is being forced on us, we only decide to do whatever thing that comes our way, if our mind goes along with them, then we can all run everything together, but if we are not trusting in what they do, then we should discern right and go for all we want, because no one will force us into participation, but we should also be always reminded that we could one day be in their same position.

Let me guess, he invites his members to investing cryptocurrency through him. Or maybe he did it professionally by having a platform where they can invest?
This is the first time hearing about Pastor Joel, LOL!. Without anyone telling me, this is a scam attempt. He will make money from his members. Funny enough, he is not the first Pastor. doing something similar.
I remember my mom talking about a Pastor in my hometown telling his members to invest through him. Every now and then he comes up with a new investment platform, like a quick way to make money. Too bad most of the members would fall into the same situation when they get scammed.

Na pathetic situation wey we now find ourselves sae some of our Christian brethren don d believe on their pastors' words more than they read the Bible. Their pastors are now the ones who have direct access to God more than they do. Any words that come out of their mouth are to be believed and not questioned.

We Christians have to do better than the way we regard our so-called ''pastors" because they themselves are human beings like us. They are not intelligent than we, or have direct access to God more than we. We are all equal in the eyes of the Almighty God. We can communicate with him wherever we are.

However, I just wish our Christian brethren their eyes and reasoning would change on how they see their pastor. Things they do or think of, their pastor can't have the right approach to it. They should communicate with their maker(God) directly by themselves, not seeking their pastors' involvement.

Regarding crypto, our people don suffer from it because of a lack of knowledge. I can't be well inclined on crypto, my pastor go now tell me to invest in our church coin. I won't now because I know what it would look like ''being rugpulled''.

Not forgetting, our Africans pastors don d do us dirty. And we need to let them know sae, we no be mumu give them. Money we give in the church, we no d pluck am for tree.

Time dey come wey be say our country people fo soon dey understand say church and religion generally don dey turn business and so some persons no dey do church based on say dem love God but for their selfish interest and gains, some of these clergy men dem na business men but because we don turn dem to our idol, we no dey see am like dat, most od them now, their quest for luxury and the things wey dem dey call things of the world naim go later put them for wahala but members no dey wan seee am like dat because na dia papa and na dia spiritual leader meanwhile even bible talk am say make we get sense say na lack of sense dey make some of us perish yet we no wan hear.

Sake of say person na papa no mean say we go dey trust am with everything, especially when we know say dem no really get good idea for financial matters wey dey outside the scope of religion, no go dey carry emotions enter money mata come dey allow yourself dey blinded by wetin you call your papa or spiritual leader because dem fit dey use opportunity dey whine u but u fit no know so i always advise say make people dey drop sentiment and emotions for issues like dis and if u see say dis person no get any proven track record of expertise in that area, no follow their advise, crypto no be religion, if u enter am like dat, you go loose all your money just like e dey happen now and even when e been happen for all those celebrity that time.

This matter of man of God  is creating confusion everywhere. The truth is that not all that call themselves man of God a re really men of God, some are idol washipers in disguise as pastor or man of God and they turn they turn anything to their favour including using God as a point of contact to convince members to do what pleases them. Note that I don argue that God doesn't send message to men of God on how to show members way forward, but I believe that not everything said by this current men of God are real because most of them are doing business In form of church and this is tarnishing the image of God and Christianity at large. I can see some people in the comments section saying that church is a business. Friends church is not a business the fake prophet makes it look like it is but the original church of God stand for Truth, love and justice and not deceit.

This alone should make you to understand that this is a business man that wants to promote his business using church. And when this is done, it will look as if Gos sent him where as nothing like that. This a e false prophet but good business people leveraging on people's ignorant to  make money.

Properly said, the moment religion is combined with investment, caution is crucial. Any coin that is promoted through spiritual influence, mostly with self-reported data without transparency, then it is a strong red flag. So many leaders use faith to force selfish gain. True project depends on trust, rather than theology. Always research personally and don't invest from the bases of religious persuasion, faith is meant to guide morals, not decisions concerning finance.

Sabi says this matter no be current. God has opened his eyes. Everything he said about the future of cryptocurrency and its preparation is found in his program but we know very well that the Bible says that there is one God. Even after knowing this, various kinds of claims will always come or are dem dey come. For dis time when religion, technology and economics are merging together, it is important for us to be more attentive and aware. Just now, some initiatives have come to the fore where attempts are being made to popularize financial projects using religious emotions and spiritual language and we know that as we can see in the case of "kingdom coin".

As di religious leader talk, this is a God-given project and through it believers are being prepared for the economic structure of the future. Although such initiatives are not new, the question is this type of campaign transparent enough, or is it a financial trap based on one-sided assurances?

Good saying, the combination of religious believes and investment is a through definition of stupidity, the promotion of coins is fully dependant on  the esterblishment of  strategy which includes the use of a well built active community and a mixed market channel to propel adoption and demand of the said coin, so any one channelling his faith on prophecy by any religious representative is indirectly building a tunnel that will be capable of destroying his many years of suffering in the crypto world.
So the preferred advice to investors is to avoid combining prophetic procrastination and real investment of any kind.

I remember the story of this pastor, that time the matter being a lot of controversies in the crypto space for those that knew about it. People been dey share their views and many people dislike the whole idea as the thing don be say religious leaders they find way to take milk their followers. These pastors wey dey take advantage of things like this dey do am neh as their followers dey always wan do wetin them talk as them see am as divine intervention from God, not knowing say them they use their head to take make money. As we don know say religious leaders dey try wan milk from us too, make we dey careful and do our research as e suppose to.

It's funny how people don't do research before trusting informations. Any man of God that's not transparent enough to tell his followers the fact is deceitful and should be avoided, infact I don't see the person from the OP's story as a man of God but someone that's influential and wants to take advantage of his vulnerable members and yes a lot of them fell for it because of lack of knowledge and understanding about Cryptocurrency, if he was a real man of God he would've rather advice them to invest on a legit coin that's proven to be profitable for investment which is Bitcoin instead of promoting his shitcoins with the gospel.

It is not transparent and is definitely a financial trap amongst other things. It is quite sad and always boggles my mind when obvious scams and get rich projects like this that are propagated by the church turn out to be successful largely due to the church members who are majority average to lower income hard working people.
These schemes which are majorly benefitting the head pastor financially, have been there through the ages and has evolved with the times. It's surprising (and at the same time not so surprising) to have a religious figure create a "kingdom coin" and then convince its members invest in it.

This is obviously another method to scam ignorant people in the name of religion, cryptocurrency is man-made technologies and God almighty in his glory won't get himself involved in human politics or scam activity. Nigerians especially are so gullible when it comes to religion and they are always ready to believe anything they are told as long as it is coming from a prophet hence the reason why we have so many churches everywhere, this prophet in question is a business man that is disguising himself as a man of God and he knows that religion can get his followers do anything he asks them to do because globally religion as eaten deep into the society.

Well the relationship between spiritual leaders and their followers isn’t something you can easily understand by simply discussing it. Some people view their spiritual leaders as God in human form, not that they worship them, but it’s more of honoring them and trusting them to lead them. They believe their spiritual leaders are flawless and hears directly from God and so you can’t blame some of them for blindly following without objections, especially some of those folks who are just too religious and don’t usually have the time to check scriptures to confirm instructions from their spiritual leaders.

Many people think crypto respects or honor a high profile personality or celebrity to skyrock or remain at the top for longer period, but thats not the case, its far different than that. Crypto is a cryptographic code that only obey demand and supply command in order to maintain its market value, sustainability and liquidity.

Influence of any celebrity has effect on the price for a short period of time maybe two weeks thats all.

Where is TRUMP today, imagine the president of the world power coin could not even soar higher and maintain, its gone to bottom forever.

My brother the way we Africans Dey do this Christianity don comot from the way the Whites wey bring am to us Dey do, a lot of our people gets misled easily with this church thing and some hustlers don know this thing and they’re the ones using this gullibility to their personal advantage. Even the Bible says a lot of false prophets will arise calling his name and his truth is not in them.
People don over abuse Christianity, it’s the only religion that doesn’t have or keep to standards and the followers always believe everything their daddy or papa or mama says very gullible individuals we have over here.
Worse things have happened aside this crypto stuff, this is taking it to next level though.
How can you hear something about cryptocurrency from a man of God and you quickly rush to buy it, as per say man of Gd no fit deceive you!.