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Sometimes it feels like no matter how much we earn, the cost of living keeps climbing faster. Food, rent, electricity, even transportation, everything seems to demand a bigger slice of the paycheck. People are spending more hours working, but what they can afford with that work keeps shrinking.

Inflation quietly eats into savings, and most salaries never catch up. Productivity keeps rising, but real wages have barely moved in decades. The system keeps asking for more output, more hours, more efficiency, yet most workers still feel stuck in the same place.

It makes you wonder if the goal was ever financial freedom at all, or just keeping the wheel spinning.

In times like this, some turn to Bitcoin and other decentralized assets as a hedge, not just against inflation, but against a system that seems built to make people dependent.

So the question remains: are we really working to live… or just living to work?

I feel the same way. Sometimes it feels like we’re just going in circles. Even when we manage to grow professionally and get a better salary, it still seems impossible to reach a point of balance. We always have to keep running harder and harder just to maintain the same standard of living. That’s inflation. Inflation is completely eating away at our purchasing power year after year. But after the pandemic, things started moving much faster. There’s not much we can do, just keep running in this endless chase for money. At least we have Bitcoin to ease it a bit,  without it, the world would be much worse

In economic difficulties like the one we're in now, class differences start to become more apparent. If you don't have inherited wealth, no matter what you do or how hard you work, it's never enough. You always need more. It's impossible to move up in class, even meeting your basic survival needs is becoming harder day by day. There are millions of people who feel the same way as you because this is the reality of life.

Some people are really in this life just living in others to be working since their work are not actually able to foot all their bills and keep them going. Rather, it's earnings that is just able to sustain them in other to survive the next phase of trying to be productive for someone who will still end up paying them less than what they can barely use to survive with.

With the way inflation is rising and minimum wagers not actually meeting up to daily needs to survive in such a situation, one just needs to step up their game, look for something really at their time and work smart rather than just work hard in another to secure something which will be worth meeting up with their demand and still have something left in rather than rotating around one place.

Survival is at stake. If we don’t work, there can be no means to survive, but will end up with hungry stomach. Even those rich and wealthy men, they still prioritize their work in order to create more productivity and progress, to gain more riches and wealth eventually.

However, considering living to work, I think that creates no difference with the first one. We just have to keep things going by working and investing at the same time, so that we will live more positively than living in regrets and poverty.

The goal was to work to live a better life but now the economy has taken a different turn...people who used to be okay with what they are earning are now complaining because it doesn't seem to be enough, this is how bad the economy has gotten...we aren't living to work either that's the reason why we must work on becoming self employed so we don't waste your valuable time working for someone forever.

We are designed to work and not procrastinate. We need to find work that we love, so it won’t be a burden. If we do what we love, then it’s not working anymore.
In a world where we need to sustain our needs, we must work to live. This is why we need to find our true vocation, so we do not end up working in boredom.
For someone who has found his vocation, he is working to live, while someone who just wants to go to work for the sake of work is living to work.

We are just working to live because what we are making can barely see us through the days. The system has been designed in such a way that you just have to earn what will be able to feed you. If not that humans were wired in such a way that we have to eat everyday most people would have given up on the idea of working. It makes no sense to work so hard and earning so little. It now looks like the good life is only designed for the privileged few.

Reality hits that if we stop working, living life would not be that meaningful and productive at all, unless if you stop working because you have to focus on a highly potential business or investment. That would be a very good decision then as you have all the management and control to create a greener pasture for you and your family.

However, we cannot deny that working is already part of our lives. Even when we are in our own business, we still work on it 24/7 so that success will be highly guaranteed. It’s just that, all people need to work either for a company or your own self, to experience life’s financial success and stability.

The treadmill feeling isn't a character flaw, it's a unit-of-account problem. When the thing you're paid in is engineered to lose purchasing power, productivity gains bleed out as higher asset prices and you run in place pretending it's progress.

The antidote is ownership and optionality: build rare skills, ask for equity rather than perks, and stack scarce or productive assets so more of your time compounds while you sleep. If your money melts, you end up working as an ice maker. ;D

It's true, living costs are increasing too fast, and we end having a hard time thriving in a society where to survive is the maximum most people achieve doing. However, I keep for myself that or you thrive, or you die trying. For me it makes no sense to fall in a comfort zone where you get used to the mediocrity of earning 100$ and spending the whole 100$ on basic expenses, without any perspectives of growing on long run.

If after all, I'm living to work, at least I'm doing this in an attempt to pursue something else in the future, instead of giving up and resigning.

Even the people who inherited wealth from their parents still try to make an effort to add more wealth to the one they already so as to sustain the inherited wealth. Every man still need more money to keep life going, thing are really getting hard day by day so if we don't put more effort and work more harder it will hard to put food on the table, the economy isn't what we see before things changes very fast it's just like the adage that says no food for lazy man i will say we are actually working to survive not even to live.

That is why we keep telling people not to depend on only one source like salary, it will make you experience what will make you regret for coming to this world because the salary will not help you and your family to cope in this inflation, we are working to live, that is why you see graduates all over the world looking for what to do that will be bringing funds weekly or monthly to live a good life, even the business women and men you are seeing in different locations, they are doing all those business to build a good income that will increase them financially and materially inflation will not reduce, if you are living in a country where high cost of living is very high, you can add bitcoin or other altcoins among your investments so that you can live well like other investors in that country.

You can simply fight the inflation by putting it into a hedge against inflation, no? such as gold or even bitcoin.

People who put their money in bitcoin a year ago already multiplying it, if you put it into gold you easily outperform inflation by significant margin.

The inflation is only problem for people who are financial illiterate, e.g just using money to buy consumtive things and never try to hedge.

That's the thing.

It's actually both. We need work to live also live to work. We're living in the world where economic is almost everything. It's also determining your social statue in the community. If you're not working, and you will be abandoned by the community. That's how we maintain our statue, and try to survive.

To conclude, either working to live or live to work are the same. Don't pretending like it was the two different things.

There's no way we are living to work, it would be actually sad if anyone's life is like that. There are people that don't have time for themselves, all they do is work and they don't even make good amounts of money. Depending on one source of income can get you frustrated with life especially now that the economy has different turn, you can be hardworking and still have nothing to show for I'd you don't think out of the box

We are living to work and earn, and we are earning to live. Actually, we are in an era where we need to double up our sources of income. Things are not easy anymore; the global economy is affecting our earnings and also affecting our lives as well, because we must work for our earnings to survive in this harsh economy. Currencies have lost their value; even with just a million, you will not be able to meet up with your daily activities or financial problems thst comes up from an angle.

However, we don't need to be told anymore; creating many sources of income for ourselves and also our family, we need to change some financial plans and financial decisions. Let's generate something or invest in what's going to bring huge financial growth to us so we could be able to tackle this economy become financially stable.

Most people are working to live.

From poor to rich people, they're still working to live. The rich are still need to work because if they make a mistake, it would cost them a lot and they might go down from rich to middle class. Only people who already have a system are living to work, they have more choice to work on the field that earn high or the thing they like.

Almost all people can't achieve financial freedom because financial freedom require a high income source which stable every month, not just the total investment. Even you have a lot investment, but you didn't earn much from that, in the long run your class will go down.

That is  simply because they have no alternative aside the job, so what did you expect, put yourself in there shoes did you mean you're going to quit from the job since they're not paying a decent amount and just sit at home doing nothing when you still have responsibility to take care of? I'm sure you wouldn't want to do that so the same way that those people don't also want to lose it unless they have look for a replacement.


Of course I'm sure that our main purpose of working is in order to meet up with our bills and also provide our families with thier needs, we are not just living to work. Even though some people may not be earning a decent amount in thier job but no matter how small it's I'm sure that it will be enough to cover thier expenses and still remain some leftover of which is more than enough for some people especially those who are coming from under develop countries.

Sadly, the majority of us are in both situation. No matter what the choice is, it seems like a trap in the rat race. That even just like what you have said, we work hard and yet there's nothing left from our salaries because of how price of commodities are increasing almost everyday. In the US, there are studies about that many of them can't even afford to have their own house so they rent, and most likely that rent is eating from 30%-60% of their household income monthly.

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Our living costs increase but our salary does not increase. That makes us search for more opportunities to earn money. So it is normal to see some workers have two or three jobs because they want to earn more money.

We can not deny that the situation is hard now but we are not alone. Many people have the same difficulty and even some people can hardly survive so we are still luckier than those people. We work to earn money and to survive so no matter if you say that we are working to live and just living to work, we still need to survive.

If you want to have financial freedom, you must create an idea that can help you producing more money. When your business grows and earns you more money without you adding more time to work.

Working to live or living to work, both have meanings that can be interpreted differently depending on how a person does it.
Working is synonymous with earning an income. The income earned is sometimes not enough to save because it is only enough for basic needs, and this can be interpreted as living to work. Is that true?

This is a phenomenon experienced by most people living in every country. In my opinion, this is because of the system, and it seems like deception by the system.
No matter how small the income, after basic needs are met, it is necessary to set some aside.

The way things are going it really does feel like the more people earn the less it’s worth every year prices rise faster than paychecks and the basic things that should be easy to afford start to feel like luxuries food rent healthcare transportation everything takes a bigger bite out of the same income inflation makes it worse because it slowly erodes what’s left of your savings without you even noticing you’re working harder but your money isn’t going as far.

Productivity has been going up for decades but wages haven’t followed that same curve people are producing more value for the system yet getting less in return this imbalance shows how the structure is built not for financial freedom but for continuous output it keeps people running in circles chasing stability that feels further away each year the idea of working to live starts to flip into living to work where survival becomes the main goal instead of growth. That’s why more people are turning to Bitcoin and other decentralized assets they see it as a way to step outside of the traditional system a hedge not only against inflation but against dependence on central control Bitcoin offers a form of ownership that can’t easily be diluted or manipulated it gives people a sense of freedom in a world where everything else feels controlled by corporations and governments.

Basically we all work to live, even a remote job or an investment is also work because it takes your time and concentration for you tonight that desired results that you need. Life is a cycle around work, even as a student that doesn't have a job yet you need to put in constant work to get to where you want to be. But there's more to life than work do we don't just live to work, we live to enjoy the benefits of our hardwork

I feel like many people have fallen from the upper middle class to the lower middle class. Life really does seem to get harder every year. I feel the same way, because even though I feel like my income is much better now than it was a few years ago, it still doesn't feel like enough. It's as if I'm just working to survive.
A side hustle is a real solution in situations like this. I personally feel the impact because I can invest.

Yeah this is true.. and of Op is actually correct because nowadays things are not working the way it should be, the more people work the more harder it becomes to meet up responsibility and even when working its seems as money is no longer enough.  Like you said of inherited wealth; there are people who has finished up their wealth left for them due to the present economic situation, and in fact in the last 20 years when someone inherited $1m or above it is worthy enough to sustain someone or for that amount to yield to something productive if invested into business but nowadays I don't such amount is worthy enough for people to survive for 10 to 20 years.

Nowadays, as much as we try to increase our income, our expenses are increasing rapidly. Income is not increasing compared to the amount of money we spend on meeting our basic needs such as rent, electricity, food, transportation. As a result, we feel that we are working only to survive and not to live well. No matter how much we work, our savings are decreasing because the prices of things are increasing, but our salaries are not increasing. And this is a matter of frustration for every person. The more we develop, the more difficult our lives become. In this case, many people are currently choosing digital currencies like Bitcoin as an alternative because they can manage their money independently and are not controlled by big institutions or governments. Here, you have control over your own money.

The thing is that, we are working to live because we need to pay bills, however I have noticed that the burden of spending has been shifted over to the citizens more, some of the things we spend our money on are supposed to be subsidized at least 50% by the government, bills like electricity, transportation and healthcare should be seriously subsidized, because these are areas of the economy that deeps into the finances of the citizens. Hence this areas are highly subsidized, citizens will enjoy both working to live and living for work because you will be doing your job with passion and dedication as you will be more patriotic.

You are right, no matter how hard people work these days, the gap between the rich and the common people is expand day by day. The current system of society is designed in such a way that those people who already have wealth get more benefits. People who work hard every day seem to be working only to meet their daily needs. I have always heard everyone say that hard work is the key to success, but sometimes it is seen that the success of some people depends on their luck. Currently, the middle class is struggling a lot to make ends meet, because the prices of all things are increasing but their income is not increasing. So people are very tired today, struggling to survive in this society, everyone is looking for alternative ways to get out of this endless distance.

The reality right now is that the harder people work the more it feels like they’re just running in place everything keeps getting more expensive while salaries stay the same or barely move the gap between the rich and the working class keeps widening and it’s not because people aren’t working hard enough it’s because the system itself favors those who already have wealth and resources those at the top benefit from investments assets and connections while the rest keep struggling just to cover daily expenses.

For many the idea of moving up the social ladder has turned into something close to impossible generations used to believe that education and effort could change their situation but today even with those things opportunities are shrinking the cost of living rises faster than wages rent and food prices eat up most of the paycheck leaving little room to save or invest it creates a constant feeling of exhaustion where people are surviving not living. Luck also plays a much bigger role than most would like to admit some people happen to be born into the right families or get access to chances others never see no matter how much effort they put in and this adds to the frustration of the working and middle classes who are told to work harder when the system keeps closing doors in front of them.

The more we all make a big deal out of this, the more it affects our reality, since the day we were born have we truly see things getting better or worse? I will talk for myself, since I was born things have always get harder in the country and economy wise, nothing ever goes back the way they once were.

The way forward is to follow the smart money, evolve around the needful things of today, rich people are still increasing in numbers and the numbers of the poor are also increasing, it is better to leave the old ways and go the new route.

It is no longer a rumor that Tech is where money flows to, I advise we should build ourselves around it, the new billionaires in Asia part of the world all made it through technology and AI, this is now the future and anyone that thinks otherwise will be sadly left behind.

The inflation is increases which caused the prices of daily needs will be very high too but the most problem is our salaries is not following the inflation movement even it still remain without progress that's why every year we feel our salaries is very less compared to our needs and some people has attempts to solved these conditions with working more hours but unfortunately their salaries still not enough

I think this is major problem from every countries in the world that most people have working with crazy hour but they still unable to feed their families with decent food and for poor people these situations will continue for their lifetime mean they will working for their life because this is the only way how to survive for their lifetime

Does it mean we can't come to a compromise within us that what we have is enough? It's something really hard to do, and it's noticeably applicable to humans. Doing that is something so difficult for humans, insatiable needs; water, electricity, gas etc. Bills come knocking at the door unexpectedly. With a shortage of all these relevant needs a human being may not be in a good health. We are actually working to live, but in a clear sense, we walk to leave.

We need to eat to survive so we work to meet our daily financial needs. Working ensures our daily financial needs are met. However as you mentioned, technological advancements and other developments have led us to require more necessities, coupled with a poor economy, which has led us to work to survive. However this ultimately depends on each individual's mindset, principles, and goals. Some work simply to meet their basic needs, while others work to meet their needs while balancing work and rest. Others also set goals to achieve financial freedom so they can enjoy life.

Essentially when we talk about working to live, living to work, we're actually discussing the art of creating a good balance between work and enjoyment. We all know how important it is to work hard, but life should also be enjoyed, and the way to enjoy it is by achieving financial freedom. That's why it's important to work and earn an income you have a plan to achieve financial freedom for the future. One way to do this is by investing and not wasting time.

It is all caused by inflation, and you need a strategic plan and budget to eventually break out of the rat race, but it would not happen overnight. It is true that inflation is a global problem right now, but people are still making money from their asset columns and businesses, so if you believe you can do that too, then you possibly can.

That said, be consistent in developing yourself through learning new skills. I learnt something very important this year, and it is that if you chase knowledge and desire to solve a problem with it, money will come naturally, but if you are consistent in chasing money through looking for a job with supposed better pay, you'd prolly never leave the rat race. Think about this, it could be the shift you need.

The truth is that because of the rising inflation in our economy, survival has become very tough for people despite the salary that people are earning, the only major thing that people are thinking is how to feed their family, and train there children, that is the major concern of most people.
People no longer talk of carrying out major projects like building, and people are not counting any major achievement, all your struggles , you can not give account of it.

Because of the rising inflation that has helped to depreciate our fiat currency and cost high cost of living, people have began to invest in bitcoin as a remedy to the rising inflation and hardship, because investing in bitcoin will sustain the value of our currency, and at the same time help us to maximize profit in our bitcoin investment.

The negative effects of inflation are immense, and everyone is trying their best to maintain the value of their currency or minimize its impact. Everyone agrees that inflation is a global problem, but the degree to which it affects countries is not uniform. Therefore, the effort required to avoid inflation varies from person to person.

Personal development and being ready for opportunities are positive steps that can be taken. In an inflationary world, learning to protect the value of your currency and developing yourself to access additional sources of income is essential. Of course, achieving these goals isn't easy, but the effort is sometimes half the battle.

Do we work to live, or do we live just to work? This is a philosophical question at its core.
We really don't know whether we work to live or live just to work. You feel as if everything is in place. You work and work and keep working, but in the end, you discover you're still going in the same circle.

I've been working for many years, and I've gotten a little older, but so far, I haven't seen any significant progress or fundamental change in my life. It's pretty much the same thing—just getting the basics, or a little more.

The both , if you are living you must to work and if you working it is the reason why you are still living. This is life for you, nothing comes easily,  you need to work.  The essence of living is not to dance on roses but to make a living for yourself.

One thing about money sometimes, no matter how your income increases it doesn't mean you will have more money but your demands also increase which you will definitely spend more and their will be no enough money for you to gather. As long as you are living you must work to survive, this is how life have been designed.

There are categories of people who had won the battle of getting the basics daily needs of life and so they are not talking about food, transportation and all of that.

The next discussion in line is building another system that brings more money into the wallet and so it keeps repeating.

Those that actually live to work are those whose level of earnings is still struggling how to win the basic need battle, they'll forever live to work and so the it passes on to their generation because such battles haven't been won.

We're all here working to live.

This is the sad truth about life but don't let it stuck in your minds. We're here to live and enjoy what life has given us.

We don't care if it's going to take a while until we become financially free. Just don't give up if life is giving you the hardship that we'll understand what it happens.

Because if we get out of this situation, we'll thank these hardships that we've got and we're no longer going to work just for us to live. But we'll work because it's one of the passion that we chose to live with.

A passion, a work that we truly enjoys. Don't give up on that dream everyone.

I feel like everyone is working to live and at the same time living to work because what's the essence of life if you are not doing anything to sustain yourself, you need to work in order to live and while you are living you need to work to keep living. This is the sad reality of life and we must all pass through it for survival and fulfillment, there are some set of people that are living life to the fullest without any worries of work and survival and some of us we keep working for financial freedom but we keep finding ourselves in the same place over and over again.

We live for both. If we do not work, then we cannot live, and to live, we have to live by working. When we are born as humans, we have to work, if we do not work, then we will never live well because laziness can never bring happiness. So we work a lot to live a good life. If you notice, you will see that those who live lazily and do not work, but cannot live well, have many flaws in their lives, so every person has to work to live well. It is possible to live well by working.

There is inflation in various countries including my country, to reduce this inflation we have to do business on our own initiative, if we can do good business on our own initiative, then we can organize our lives well. In particular, cryptocurrency has played a very important role in our lives, without cryptocurrency our lives would have been very bad.

 So we have to work hard and those of us who are with Bitcoin have to do good self-initiated business alongside Bitcoin because hard work will definitely pay off.

In fact, we can stop living in luxurious cities, work for a limited time, build a small plot of land and a small house on it, and continue living. We can do some work there to meet our basic needs and finally escape this tiring work life. This requires courage, and it's not as easy to make as it is to say it's a big decision. Under current circumstances, I can say that most of us are just trying to survive, but there are other ways.

The other paths I mentioned above are to work on your own land, produce your own products, and grow old while you relax. I'm not saying you should completely abandon digital life, but you can continue to earn money that way.

I think we have normalize already the kind of reality we have, that we people work to live, and not to earn millions and be wealthy in the long run. We work for survival, instead of making life more easy, calm and enjoyable. Although some still manage to live a joyous and luxurious life, but that’s because they don’t just rely on a simple work alone, but most likely explore into investments that have high risks, as well as high profits.

Living to work, that depends on our individual’s choices. But if you want a good and secured life, then having a stable job may guarantee that.

Well uhhh, I think the best way to answer this question is really really simple and short. When you meet someone, the question you're asked concerning your occupation is "what do you do for a living?" This statement or question shows that everything you do in life is for you to live and not you living to work. You working in the first place is to sustain yourself so you're definitely working to live.
You work to get paid because if you just stay idle, nothing is going to come your way and when you get paid then you get the money to take care of your needs in order for you to be alive.

We are supposed to work to live, but we end up living to work.
I always feel that if I were single, I would have more time to travel, enjoy my life, and have fewer responsibilities. Now I have a family, my kids, and other family members, who depends on my income, which is why I will have to work and meet their needs. Yet, the family members sometimes don't treat you well, and I think every hard-working person can relate to this. I am not talking about men only. Thousands of womens are working hard and taking care of their family. There is no free time, no entertainment, as if they are living to work. I feel the same way when I work seven days a week, not for myself, but for my family members.

Even if they work hard and increase their working hours, they still won't necessarily earn more money because the standard salary they are given is not enough to cover their expenses.
All our needs are rising, and the standard salary we earn doesn't provide certainty, making it difficult to keep up.
We work to make ends meet, and our standards are nothing more than a pursuit of a better life, even though the chances are slim and we continue to face challenges.
If we can't find a solution, the impact will be a continued state of economic hardship and can impact our daily financial performance.
If asked whether Bitcoin could be a solution, the answer is yes, but to what extent can people set boundaries to consistently engage in investment, even when our finances are sometimes not yet strong?

Exactly, and that is the reason why money is no more valuable anymore. Inflation is just gradually shrinking the value of fiat, making fiat currency not affordable to buy things. No matter how big the fiat is, it will never be enough to purchase anything tangible. The more you earn the lesser the value it becomes. Sometimes I wonder how we can survive from this. But what comes to my mind is keeping our fund in digital asset like Bitcoin or stable coin like USDT since it's the only way to excape inflation.

That's just it, at this point in time Bitcoin investment becomes the most important thing to consider.

Which ever way either living to work or working to live all are thesame. The truth of the matter is that all is vanity. We all are going to die one day afterall so it make no difference, just a matter of time to realize we are nothing but sand.

Working for a better life will be possible if we replace survival with building a multi-layered household economic system: income, control, protection, and development.

Change your mindset from survival to building a financial system. Many families work hard but lack a system for managing their money. You can try creating a 12-month family financial plan, focusing primarily on basic needs, emergency savings, and a few productive investments. Use an adaptive version of the 50-30-20 principle: 60% for essential needs, 25% for liabilities and productivity, and 15% for emergency funds and long-term investments. The goal isn't to get rich quick, but to create a small system that can grow even with limited income.

It's not income that determines well-being, but how you manage your cash flow. It's important to record every expense, no matter how small, then distinguish productive from consumptive expenses, and try applying the 24-hour delay principle for non-urgent purchases. A single source of income means significant risk. Try to find and discover small skills that can be sold and turn your home into a place to live and generate economic value. The focus isn't on getting big first, but on consistency and growth.

And this is actually the reality of things in the present time we find ourselves anywhere around the world the economic situations are almost the same with a glaring class difference. Before we had the lower class, middle class and the upperclassmen, but now with how difficult it has become to even feed and live comfortably the class difference has been turned into lower and upperclassmen. You're either poor or rich, no more middle positions.

If you make working a part of your life that you hate, you are going to have a miserable life. I work about 8 to 10 hours a day, every single day. If I hate that work, then I am giving away 1/3rd of my life away, for something I hate, and I see people around me going to work that they hate, making money that is not even enough. I have said this before, and I will say it again, if everyone just did whatever they enjoyed doing, world will be a better place, and while that may seem like a dream, it's not.

You want to be a painter? Learn to paint while you are at your job, and if you can find a job painting or make enough money that is great, but if you make very low money, just go grab 6 roommates and live on noodles and potato and leftovers, I guarantee you, you will be happier.

Making minimum wage is enough, if you are happy with your job. That would also disrupt companies too, because everyone would quit, and go do minimum wage fun jobs, and then companies would have to pay more to find people who are willing to do their horrible jobs.

This is due to inflation. Always expect that prices of goods will rise and with this our salaries as well. We also should not just rely on one source of income but also have other investments that will combat inflation with the example of crypto as an investment.
Unfortunately when we are in survival mode, we can’t plan well. So we are just living every day like zombies. Make sure to have an end goal so you know what to do with the present and the future.

Honestly this is something many of us can relate to right now. It’s feel somehow, how many work harder daily but still find it hard to survive and take care of our needs. Price of things increases daily but wages remain the same, just like a as if the finish line keeps going back no matter the kind off speed you add to meet it up. And if we should actually look at how much productivity has gone up over the years compared to wage growth, it really does make you question where all that the profit going into, and people who suffer this things most are nations with a bad government.

We can see the beauty of life if we are productive, so we should strive to live productively. We are built to work, but while working, we must cultivate our skills, talents, and human relationships. We can sustain this if we work to live. Some people want to work and be productive.
Whatever you choose to do —working to live or just living to work —we have to be productive in our lives because procrastination is not good; it's bad for our health and encourages negative behaviors. Progress comes from being productive, so we have to work to live ot live to work.

This is the system the government has designed for us, you work and get paid to pay heavy tax and use the rest of the money to feed and the system continues like that. This is why it's advisable to start a business and build an investment empire. Not everyone can be successful in a business but if you can find a way to become a successful one, you will beat all minor odd of financial freedom but if you way to beat the major odd, you have to start an investment.

Bitcoin over the years has beat all odds of financial freedom, there is no asset on earth that has ever done what Bitcoin has done since it creation, it's what they say it's. It's because of it uniqueness that many governments has refused to allow it grow among them but only time, the government can be change but Bitcoin can't be change. Sooner or later another government that want Bitcoin is going to emerge as the winner just like Trump did and Bitcoin will be accepted.

The system is built like that for us to continue to work for the government in order to earn a living and not to be financially free from them. I feel that our leaders have missed it since onset which is the reason why they created a system that shrink your income overtime due to high level of inflation without salary increment. I don't think that this will come to an end someday for a common man.

I would say we are just living to work and that will be our target every single day. We will wake up and start thinking about work and how we can earn a few extra bucks so we can enjoy at the end of week. This has been a common mentality at least for those who live on paycheck to paycheck.

Mostly corporate employees will have this as one of their golden rule to wake up, start thinking about money, work hard for it and go to bed. This has changed our lives drastically and we have almost forgot that we should work to live and not live to work. I won't blame inflation as even the salaries are hiked every month just to balance the inflation. But depends on our financial needs and the urge to earn more even if we have sufficient.

We all exist in a world where you have to pay your own way and few people can afford to live off state benefits alone - if you're even lucky enough to have them available in your country. It is our individual journey to carve out a financial existence and hopefully enough of a safety net that you will be able to retire from working one day, able to squeeze another couple decades of relative luxury in your later years. You have to adapt to the conditions and world around you, few people are lucky enough to have a job that they absolutely love so if you stumble into one you should treasure it. Don't be afraid to jump around and try out different things in your career, especially when you are younger and less tied down to a certain path in life like needing to support a family.

No matter how much money we earn, we are not satisfied because of our excessive needs. There are many idle people who are daily wage earners who somehow survive with the money they earn from their daily work. However, I think there is a lot of difference between people living in villages and cities. 

 who live in cities have more expenses on food and house rent and other aspects. But those who live in villages have a little less expenses. We will invest the money we earn from our work and the money that remains after spending. Our main goal is to do something good for the future by working.

We work so hard so that our standard of living is better. As the days go by, the economic situation is getting worse. We are running out of money to meet our needs with what we earn. Because with our income, the price of everything is increasing.

It's part of our desire. We have many things to fulfill, and that's through earning money. That's why we're always thinking about how to work and earn money to fulfill all our desires and needs.
Regardless of our occupation, whether we earn a salary or are entrepreneurs, we never think of life as just about work, or vice versa. It's all about necessity and desire, which is why we do it.

I think work makes people's lives meaningful and important. Most people consider work a burden and lose interest in work, spend their days lying down and sitting idly, then various worries come to mind, that's why we have to love work. It is important to be busy in human life, it maintains physical and mental health. By working, people earn money, as well as exchange ideas with different types of people and develop intelligence. Nowadays, without money, no basic needs can be fulfilled such as: food, clothing, shelter, education and medical care. Unfortunately, money runs the world. Accordingly, we immediately have to work to earn money.

You know there are some set of people that is known for being lazy all the time they don't like stress yet they have nothing, it surprises me how most people make decision without even considering thier financial situation. Imagine someone complaining about work being too stressful when he had no Investment or business that can serve as backup even when he decided not to work for any company, I know for a fact that working under a company can be very stressful but we just need to persevere since we have nothing to use to sustain ourselves and family. I will rather Stick to the work than to sit at home doing nothing when I know that i need the money to take care of my expenses I don't mind how stressful the work is and also thier pay rate so long as is enough for me to take Care of my bills and still remain some leftover is perfectly fine.

Honestly speaking it feels like most of us today are just living to work because everything about us revolves around money and survival. Every day we wake up and the first thing we start thinking about is work. I for example spend the most part of my time chasing one deadline or the other and anytime I'm seated doing nothing I begin to feel like I'm wasting time or like I'm wasted. I wake up in the morning and spend the entire day chasing different deadlines for different works and sleep only to wake up and repeat the same step again and again.

Let me take this morning as an example when I woke up before standing up for my daily morning prayers the first thing I did was to check my post counts and the quality of my posts in the forum, then moved to other jobs I'm doing for other clients to also check their progresses. I used over an hour doing that before I finally stood up to pray, immediately after prayers I came back thinking I could take a nap but I kept hearing some voices that bros, you've still got some mails to check and some other jobs to clean up thereby stopping me from sleeping and here we are responding to threads this morning. It almost seems to me like life itself is on autopilot. But the truth is that things are not supposed to be like that because work is supposed to help us live better and not become our entire reason for living.

The point is that everyone wants to work and live the kind of life they desire. But with the current economic challenges, it just seems like we are living to work  which is a very bad idea. How can someone work almost every hour, and at the end of the day, what they earn may not even meet their needs or desires? It's a very painful thing.

What’s happening in some parts of the world now feels like a return to the slave period. The way some people work in some part of world just to feed themselves is not much different from those days, where the master used the slave and fed them afterward. The kind of work some people must do just to put food on the table is extremely difficult.

Your question is confusing just like someone asking whether the chicken produce egg or egg produce the chicken. It's sounds funny and you won't arrive at the conclusion even if you reflect on it from now till you feel like giving up. The truth is salary can't make you to become rich. In fact, it's a system programmed to keep you broke and poor. Haven't you Wonder why people don't longer have interest in government job? It's simply because of freedom. They keep you in bondage all in the name of job that the earning will not be enough to cover your expenses at the end of the day. Freedom is the ultimate wealth and the leverage to have control over your time. Unfortunately, it's a continuous circle that depends on each other.

I don't know which country you are talking about, but in mine the younger generations are more and more interested in government jobs, because the salary and other conditions like schedule, vacations or pension funds are much better than in the private companies where, with very few exceptions in very high positions, the conditions are usually of real exploitation. Not that thanks to their jobs in the government they will become rich, but at least they get better salary for less work.

About working to live or living to work, there is a term, the race of the rat. Many people work hard their entire lives to stay broke and poor, yes. That's how the system works in many places, so it is understandable that some of them look for an escape route somewhere else, in Bitcoin for example.

Well, this is the reality we see and face today. I even feel that the inflation reports published by certain countries don't quite accurately reflect the reality. Sometimes, it's reported that inflation only rises by a few percent in a given year. But what I've seen is that inflation rises by tens of percent every year. This is clearly evident in the prices of basic necessities, which continue to rise rapidly and never return. Meanwhile, our salaries remain the same year after year. So, there's clearly an imbalance, making it difficult for us to improve our standard of living.

Nevertheless, I never give up on working hard and managing my finances as effectively as possible. I want to be a pioneer, not just an heir. For now, it may seem like we're working just to survive. But I'm confident that with determination, intention, and hard work, we can one day achieve financial freedom. At the very least, we shouldn't lose hope.

This is the plain reality many are facing today no matter how hard people work the system keeps pulling them back prices rise faster than wages and the gap between the rich and the poor grows wider each year what governments report as small inflation increases doesn’t match what people experience when the cost of food rent and transport jumps constantly while salaries stay frozen.

For most families saving has become nearly impossible every bit of income goes into surviving the month instead of building a future that makes social mobility harder and leaves many stuck in the same place despite working long hours and making sacrifices. Still losing hope isn’t an option progress might be slow but it’s still possible being careful with spending starting side hustles or learning new skills can slowly create change it’s not about huge leaps but about small consistent steps that build stability over time working smart and staying patient is the only way to stay ahead even when the odds seem unfair.

Living to work is not appropriate no matter how you view it. This is why they ask people what they do for a living, not the other way around.

No one can blame you to see it or feel this way, this world is so unbalanced to the point that the gap between the rich and the poor is too wide, and the same thing goes for the hard labourers and those who got the money easily.

Again, we can think this through wage/reward amount. Some people could work a little and be rewarded much, while some would work so hard and be rewarded a little. It's just the world we found ourselves in that makes it look upside down.

The proverb "Work to live" or "live to work" is often uttered by society in general, both understandings emphasize balance or always prioritize each aspect, The point is that both understandings depend on the individual's life, both economically, family and work.

Working to live means that such a person works to earn a financial salary to meet their needs.
Living to work, this is really pursuing a career and achieving goals financially and to pursue more economy and be ready to take risks.

A comparison between poor and rich, where you can see the economics of both.

well said. we keep working harder and longer, but the results are not keeping up. the real question is, at what point do we break free from this cycle? Bitcoin and decentralized assets offer a glimpse of what that freedom might look like.

Just like 2pac shakur said, why are we dying to live if we are just living to die.

In the end, nothing is really ours, thats why have to recreate a human, raise them so that they can take over where we left off, sometimes I wish I was called upon to ask if I am coming to this world or not, I feel like its a crime opening my eyes and just seeing myself on earth, feels a lot like a crime.

Now that I am here, there is no going back until death comes for us, so we have to make a sense out of it before our time is up, there is no need regretting about why we landed here, living and making sense out of it should be the ultimate goal of every one.

Find a way to make money, if it feels like it's not enough then find a way to make more, if you are not happy doing it well it's because making money just for money making sake sucks, get used to it, the best advice ever is doing something you love to do and turn it into your source of income, try making money off something you love to do.

Well, the only real answer to this question is that you have to find the balance that works for you. There are people who are dedicated to their work, and there are lazy ones who never do anything. Some don't care about finances, Bitcoin, and all that stuff... they are focused on family and other joys of life.

So, questions about life & all that can only be answered within yourself, and once you find that answer, you do your best to turn it into reality. Of course, some succeed, some don't... life.

I guess this topic is the right place for this one:

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Alan Watts

Actually every man's purpose in life is to make an achievement and make life easier for him which simply means working to live, but the world have turn it against every man's plan through our leaders and it now looks like we are living to work, and that is why we are working like an elephant and eat like an ant . which it's not supposed to be, inflation is one of the hardest thing a country can experience, now i begin to understand that dying of hunger is not all about when there's food scarcity in a country or a city that it's also about when there is food and the price is so high that you cannot be able to buy it with your money,..

Yes, it is true that those who do not inherit any wealth have a hard time growing up and they struggle with reality. They earn enough to meet their basic needs. Saving or living a comfortable life is just a dream for them. All their income is spent on housing, food, medical treatment, etc. and they are willing to work very hard because they need a lot of money. And their future generations struggle with reality like them because they cannot leave any wealth to their children because they do not inherit anything. Billions of people around the world are living their lives like this.

It's really disappointing how the present economy has become making people work very hard and yet can't boast of your hard work.  As long as we live, we must keep pushing, working hard in order to sustain ourselves because when you stay just to rely on your savings, you will be disappointed. That is why even the wealthy people still work hard to increase their wealth. So if the wealthy works hard to become more wealthy, how much more an ordinary person whose salary isn't even enough for. How to cope in this economy is to have other sources of income where you can be getting extra income to support yourself and your family.

We must not give up on the current situation we face amidst the economic crisis that has hit most developing and even developed countries. And yes, sometimes information suggests a country's inflation rate is only a few percent, and some even say it's within normal limits. But the reality is sometimes not as reported or reported.

In fact, I'm quite certain that the prices of our daily necessities increase by more than 10% every year. But the reports don't mention high inflation, so that seems odd. I wouldn't call it odd if a 10% price increase were accompanied by an equally large salary increase, which could offset the price increase. But it's true that wages remain the same, but prices of necessities continue to rise. And people's purchasing power is gradually declining. Sometimes the government provides cash assistance to restore people's purchasing power, but this doesn't help in the long term and only helps in the short term.

So when the price of living necessities rises, we have to work harder to keep up. Finding a side income or something similar has now become a necessity.

I think it depends mostly on whether the work someone is doing matches their interests or not, because if you like doing something else, but you are doing something else, then it's going to hard for you to love that work, you might do it because you have to, but over time, your mind will get tired, and we know how it feels when we get mentally tired from something. Physical exhaustion can calm down when you take some rest, but mental exhaustion makes it impossible for you to stay where you don't like it.

This is the reason why I have always believed that those who make a career out of their passion are the luckiest, and they are blessed because they have the opportunity to do what they like and earn money by doing that. Gamers and content creators or streamers are probably the ones who I feel are blessed because they get to do what they like, and make good money from it as well.

We all dream to have that kind of a life, but it's not possible for all of us to live our dream lives. :)

I think many will start to realize that when they're tired and still not moving that much progress with their lives. They're only working and living just to pay bills.

It's only a matter of when they will realize it and will change their habits. But it will require them to quit their jobs or if they can't, they'll have to find ways to change and add a source of income which is likely another part time job.

Yes but this is different from the actual situation of most people. And not everyone are like us that understands that investing in Bitcoin is going to give us freedom in the near future, financially.

We need to earn money to run our daily lives, we earn money only by earning and then we live with our families. People basically work only to make their lives secure, money is needed in every field and they work from that money to run their lives. When a person earns in a family, when that family starts growing gradually, the demand also increases, but when a person works in a place, his salary does not increase, which makes it very difficult to manage his life. We know that as the world develops, the standard of living of people is improving, but some people are struggling to meet their basic needs, as a result, they are not improving. We know that nowadays people are very focused on Bitcoin and decentralized resources, although we know that these are very one-sided in control. However, whatever he said, it really worries people deeply, basically are we really working to live, or are we just living to work, this is a real concern.

When the number of family members increases but the income is limited, running the household becomes stressful. It becomes difficult to fulfill additional responsibilities properly with limited income. While fulfilling all the responsibilities with a small income, one has to keep within the calculations. But if the income required to fulfill the responsibilities is not increased, one has to silently sacrifice the basic needs of the family. In the situation you are in, you need additional income. In addition, proper financial planning is needed so that unnecessary expenses can be reduced.

I think we all pretty much start out living to work, but as we mature, make smarter decisions with our money and finances, we shift over to being able to work to live.  We can afford better things, and the reason is, we have made ourselves worth more to the ones who pay us, we have been smart with our money, and have build up a buffer so we are not living paycheck to paycheck.  This takes work though, and effort, a lot of it.


Most people's problems is, they want to live champagne lifestyles on a beer pocket book.  They think they deserve a mansion when they turn 18
You just got out of High School, or even college, (waste of money), NO you are NOT going to be making 200k a year out the gate.  You don't know anything yet, even though you think you know everything, you are not worth that kind of money yet, even though you think the world revolves around you, (at least that's what your 500 fake friends on fakebook make you think)
Also, you don't deserve and are not owed anything either, you must EARN it, like the rest of us did.
Don't pump out 3 kids by the time you are 22 years old and only making 40k a year, you can't afford them.
You don't need to be driving a corvette either, who cares what your idiot friends thinks, THEY are not paying your bills!

Live within your means, and most of all, be thankful for what you DO have.  Health is something you can not buy if you ruin yours or lose it.  Happiness means so much more to quality of life, and if you are one of these coin operated types who is going to live your life always chasing money, you'll never be happy, and never enjoy.  Money comes to those who don't obsess over it. Obsessing over money makes one not happy.   Enjoy the little things.  I don't have a lambo, who cares, i have a dog that loves me, shift your perspectives a bit.

You want more in life, you need to make yourself worth more,  and / or  make your money worth more.  Don't fall for scams, grow your money in nibbles, because your chances of hitting the 5 course meal are slim to none, don't get scammed.

Finally, be very ware of other's generosity.  Watch those credit cards,   15 percent interest will eat you alive.  Use them for emergencies only, do NOT fall into that trap, although i believe I can confidently say, I believe we all have at one time.

Life is not always pretty, and you won't make it out alive.  The biggest commodity that nobody ever seems to understand is.  Love.  Having family that cares for you, and having someone else that you care about.  Don't lose that commodity, chasing fiat, and alienating them.  It gets better as you get older and less able to enjoy it  ;D

Seriously though, everything looks like it sucks when you are starting out, but as you go through life, and make good decisions, it all gets better.

Aaron

We must do both because they are interconnected. We work to live, and to live, we must work because all our needs require money. However, in today's poor economy and inflation, we are forced to continue working, making it difficult to achieve financial freedom. To overcome this, we need to invest as investing can help us achieve financial freedom.

We need to remember that relying solely on our current job won't make us rich it only serves to meet our basic needs and fulfill our basic needs. Life isn't always about luxury, but rather about survival. Not all endeavors are made easy, but those who strive will succeed. So while you have a job, you should pursue it wholeheartedly. Because the joys of life can be found only when all our needs are easily met.

Which ever state we fine our self we been used to it because no matter how you complain it seems still not changing anything, those people in power that are surpose to make things more easy for the common man are the same people bend on making life even more tougher,  cost of living as been a major problem to us, people barely feed three squirrels meal as a result of bad governance and leadership, however the plan of every average person is to work and build up an empire not to be enslaved  in earning a living.

Currently, the cost of living is something else only the lion hearted can scale through.

And the rich will not be living to work instead they will be living to enjoy their lives as money will be working for them. Everyone will have different perspectives here depending on their financial well-being. Rich will never care about working this hard as they already have stable finances and all they need to do is make their money work for them while they can sit back and relax. Inflation will hardly affect them anyways.

But imagine about the poor, they already struggle to get their daily expenses cover and inflation is just going to be a pain in the neck for them. They have no other option than to live to work for their entire life at least until they have sufficient resources to take care of their families.

You will never change the status quo, no matter how much you complain bitterly about those dirty rich not giving you their money, it won't change a thing.
All it does is make you miserable, and focusing your energy on hating something you have no chance to change, stressing yourself out, harming your health.. .over something you have no control over..... why?

Nobody is going to give you anything, you are not entitled, you do not deserve, you are not owed, all that silly stuff you want to believe, because some politician put that poison into your brain so you'd show you are a fool and vote for them, because they promised you that... it will never happen.

The only person who is going to change things to make YOUR life easier is YOU!!  The sooner you finally grasp this tenet of life and understand it, the faster you can start making things better on your own.

Those people you keep expecting who are going to go out of their way to make your life easier, couldn't care less about you, and why should they?  They are too busy making their lives better and their families lives better to worry about you.  You are a total stranger, you have done absolutely nothing for them, so why do they owe you anything?  They don't. 

Everyone loves to see the money their neighbor has and complain that they are entitled to it somehow, but never look and see that the man worked 80 hour week -  100 hour weeks and weekends over the last 30 years to earn that money and put it to work, so he COULD have it when he got to this point. No they don't care about that, and sure as heck don't want to do anything like that themselves, oh heavens no!!  They don't want a job, they just want a pay check.

The only person you can truly rely on is yourself, maybe.... so why set your self up in the trap to be let down by someone else?

news flash, inflation never really went down, prices always keep going up, stuff keeps getting more expensive.  want to know why?  partly because YOU demand more money for the little work you DO put in at the job, that money has to come from somewhere, who pays, - YOU when the prices are higher for your 5 dollar double cheezy gasp and wheezy latte at starbuxx every morning.

so you want stuff to be 30 percent cheaper,  would you be willing to take a 30 percent pay cut to make things 30 percent cheaper.  how about even a 20 percent cut? oh i see.  yah. it's always easier to spend someone elses money.

you all keep talking about the people in power, they did this to you, they did that to you on and on, it's all THEIR fault, nothing you did!!.  No, YOU are doing this to you.  the people in power and the things they do have not changed over the past 1000 years, yet we still keep getting new millionaires / billionaires who are not related to them don't we?  hmm wonder how that is??

Maybe it's not what they do to you, that is the main problem, but more .. what you WONT do for yourself that is the issue?    There's a difference between Adulting, and Adults.  A better lifestyle can be the benefit of the latter.

aaron

That doesn’t change a thing, the focus is still survival, and if we don’t get to work, we might end up living in the streets with our tummy’s empty. So while there are opportunities to work and earn significant amount, seize it. Others have difficulties in finding their right job, while we are given the perfect opportunity to work and become stable, and eventually make ends meet, and even afford our wants whenever we have spare money left.

Working to live, although we are given options, but for poor individuals, we have no choice but to work to live, otherwise we won’t be able to feed our family. So working to live, or living to work, either way, still the goal is to live and survive like anyone else.

Sometimes it can take years to find the right job.  it took me over 10 years.  in the meantime, you take the job that pays the bills, keeps a roof over your head and keeps the bills paid.   while you are working this job ,build your resume and your skills so that when the opportunity comes, you are ready to step into that right job and are well qualified to be the one they choose.  Funny thing about karma,  had a job forced one me, wanted no part of it, was dragged into it kicking and screaming... turns out a decade later, that became my 'career' paying very well.   That 'garbage' job, gave me the skillset that landed me my dream job.

aaron

Most old people who were not able to meet up making an investment when they were much younger and active are the once suffering it most. Surely, for those who have secured investment or are securing investment it will be a thing of living to work and not working to live in the future and that's with help of investment, it will really be terrible to be found in that situation of living to work and working to live till old age, life is harder so we should be harder to meet up certain demands of life.

In whatever way it seems either working to live or living to work we all get the point which states don’t stop working. In a situation when it seems you work always without showing anything or working to meet ends meet only and the funds can’t cover up the investment obviously when inflation comes the income will not sustain our basic needs, in this situation finding another job will help grow bitcoin investment against inflation. I have come to a realization every work seems hard unlike those times when the wealthy ones don’t do too much still they receive much, nothing comes so easy even when we get promotion there’s still another level of duty assign.

I think that’s what actually living life is. You need to work hard and earn a living, so you can settle all your bills and live a good and comfortable life. Because if you prefer to stay at home and get rest all the time, this laziness will kill you. And any lazy person will never have the chance to live and enjoy life, so always wake up early, get to work, perform your task, get home late, because that’s where majority of us make a living and live a good life.

However, not everyone is given the chance to work and earn, most particularly those PWDs, that’s why government assistance are there. But that won’t erase the fact, that our life is set to work and live, or else we will never get to experience what real life is.

This happens when central banks fail to put inflation under control. Especially core inflation. It seems that they're giving up, now that some major central banks are raising rates. The FED and the ECB are one of them.

At this pace, we'll be subject to debt slavery forever. We're technically living to work. Since the system is rigged, the rich will keep getting richer, while the poor, poorer. Not even Bitcoin will fix all of our problems. If you're one of the lucky ones who has a high salary or more than two jobs, hooray for you. But not everyone has such capability. At least, it's better something than nothing.

Everyone will be able to break free from this potentially uncomfortable cycle only when everyone is wealthy and no longer dependent on other people's companies or jobs. So, as long as we're still living simply and not yet wealthy, this dependency should still be considered normal, as people work hard to earn money and also to gain more freedom when they are rich. However, if you find it difficult to become wealthy through other people's work, then consider doing something slightly different in your free time so that the foundation for achieving greater financial freedom can be stronger from an early age.

"Do we work to live, or live to work?". A good sentence in my opinion, I think this is experienced by some people who are tired of their lives even though they work but there is no comfort from their lives with a mediocre income making them complain every time they come home from work or at night, why is that? because I feel it, I once thought like this in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep and all I did was lament my fate with a cigarette. Honestly, the night was calm but not with thoughts, and I think almost everyone experiences this. Keep up the spirit, friend. Keep living, don't think about ending your life.

I can only imagine what people are going through each day, it's not easy for people at all. Some people can't even eat three square meals a day, for some is just one and others two a day and when you decides to sit and listen to people's story of the struggles then you'll even forget that you issues too.

Most employers are just working to survive as their salary can't even provide their needs, most of them spend the money on transportation and saving for rent and there's no way to even save from it.  For those who doesn't have a Rich uncle or comes from the Rich are just struggling to survive coupled with the high rate of things now is so bad . So yea, we're working to live, the bill's has to be paid, responsibilities needs to be taken care of, needs are meant to be met every single day. We have to Keep working hard and smart, be consistent in what you do and most importantly diversify your income.

The sad truth is that society is structured in a way that makes it difficult for people to move up the social ladder. Many people believe that working hard every day will eventually lead to success, yet the rising cost of living in this economy constantly challenges that hope. It’s almost impossible to survive without working, but that doesn’t mean life should revolve entirely around it though.

I mean despite how the system is designed, I still believe we have a choice, you know, to seek purpose and fulfillment beyond just earning a paycheck.

Generally, people with low incomes face financial crises in their lives. They work harder than other classes, they do not get proper remuneration, and even if they are paid more, it is not enough according to the needs. The current economic situation has reached a point where a poor person will never be able to improve his condition. Because no matter how hard he works, it is not possible to improve his condition with that remuneration. In this situation, of course, if someone tries and works accordingly, his condition can change somewhat. The importance of Bitcoin for becoming financially independent is now immense. By saving it, a person will be protected from inflation in the long run, and at the same time accumulated Bitcoin he has  will become more valuable over time. It is not possible to survive in this time by working hard only. If you understand it well and invest in Bitcoin and hold it, then Bitcoin will be able to make a big financial change in your life.

Imagine, you don't need to eat, sleep or relax, so if you are asked to earn money through hard work, what will you do? Maybe not. Because you don't need money to eat, you don't need a house to sleep and you don't need the necessary things for relaxation. So why should you be forced to work? Ask yourself this question, then you will get the answer very easily.

As the day progresses, inflation is increasing and the blood of the poor is being sucked. Do you notice, who is affected the most by this inflation? Undoubtedly, it is on the poor. Workers contribute the most to the country's development, but at the end of the day they are the ones who are neglected. You see politicians or government officials, who earn more money than necessary even with little hard work, most of them illegally. You can also blame them for the inflation, the consequences of which are borne by the poor.

this is true @EFS, the current economy situation we are in right now, if you don't inherit wealth from your father or else were, you are going to suffer malice Before you can get it right, or you might not even be getting it right, you might end up living in paycheck to paycheck in other to survive do to the current economy situation.

And Back to the question of the OP, from my perspective I will say that there is a balance between both, and both has there owe advantages and disadvantages when you are living to work simple means that your work come first before any other thing, because you want to achieve a purpose, and not really to aim a living, so you won't be having time for families and friends including yourself, but when you are  work to live you're working to earn a living for yourself and your family, and you will have time for your families and friends including yourself self.

I have been asking myself a lot of questions lately to why we do certain things or why are certain things just part of the human race. I have come to understand that we are literally living in a simulation, where things just keep happening in cycles. Only a very few have what it takes to break out only after realizing that it's all a trap.

Inflation continues to be a very huge challenge that almost every nation keeps experiencing, and still, no solution. Despite the advancement in technology, people lives isn't even getting better. Does education actually makes the difference in anyway?, I honestly don't think so,  because even the educated individuals go through something similar.

Aside from those that were opportune to get certain opportunities that lifted them above average, I strongly believe that it takes a certain level of realization and discipline to break out. Financial freedom do exist, but it comes with a cost.

Yes, surviving this month is the most important part, and being able to pay off your debt before the bank gets to you is another big battle we face. I keep having the same issues over and over again, and that is the most important part. I know that it is going to be taking a long time for me to get used to this, but as long as we can handle it, I think it is not going to be that difficult to handle.

Imagine living in a situation where we are handling this type of thing no more, and we are just living a life where we do not have to worry about basic needs, sure if you want a lambo, you still have to work hard, but no more worries about your health, food, shelter etc. That would be great, and then you would be working to live, but at the moment it's living to work.

so you think that people with money have not a care in the world, no concerns at all, it's just one grand vacation.... because they are rich?

must be nice to think life is that simple just because of your stature.

aaron

The feeling and circle is real in my case. Looking @ the purchasing power of 1 dollar 10 years ago and now clearly explains this matter on ground! That means the vibe of salary or wage increases is not comparable because of inflations.
Financial freedom is supposed to be progressive, which is from living to work and finally getting to a point where you work to live. And some years ago, the progressive move happens often even with salary increases but now the chain of inflation is unresting and painful leaving people in a progressive circle.
The great opportunity of decentralized systems like Bitcoin is one in a billion where even with little or no salary increase one can over time slap the hell out of inflation to enjoy an excellent or good % financial freedom.

This is a very technical question because it has really thrown me in deep thoughts right now because we keep working almost all the days of our lives so far as we are adults. We are earning but it looks like we are not even making money, we live everyday just to provide for ourselves and if you don't do it no one will do them for you. Logically, we all wanted to work in order to live but seeing how the economy and the cost of living has really become so high, i will say that we are now living to work because that is exactly what is happening. If you don't work, nobody is coming to rescue you which means that our lives revolve around the works we are doing since what we think about is to work and take care of ourselves every day. People are so busy in this life, what are they even busy about? work!

Sure, everyone need money to secure there life and lives well. Without money you will always find it difficult to solve your problem in this life. So money will always be important know one work just for living but to have a peace of mind and make the family happy and pay bills. People are more focusing on business and investment is just feel People you will see are working for people to get something, and by working they investing or doing business with it and get more profit in it and make there life better. Investing and business will make your life go smoothly and bitcoin as become something that everyone want to do and get profit because that is the coin that will always make you get profit and minimise you risk without too much of scared, and business can be your daily basics and be getting daily profit to make you stand well without looking into your investment.

The fact is that the condition we find ourselves is really devastating because the cost of living is really on the high every day, cause we work to make a certain group of people rich while we receive little for the big effort we show . getting food, water, clothing and shelter is now like the search for gold for the common man in our society today because there is the widening gap existing between the poor and the rich many people are only surviving through life itself.



Situations make people look for solutions to their problems, embracing the Bitcoin and the likes is actually a way we can work to live, but if we should depend on working for the government or people, we are living to work and it might not end in a good way.

In so many ways,life has proven to us that working to live means our job is a means to an end.Its just that societal  pressure and standards has  become so overpowering and overwhelming that some individuals are left with no choice but to live to work.Its a real concern and there needs a balance without consuming the entire identity.

Everyone has the freedom to choose how they live their life, if you are gonna live to work or work to live. It's just similar to when someone is eating to live and living to eat, it's two different thing. However, we live to work and not the other way round because in real context, life comes before work, it's only those who are alive that can work. Regardless that means of earning a living has made it look as if we are working to live but that's not true.

Both choices only pointed to the same goal, survival. If you don’t push yourself to work or make a living, you will also be the one to suffer, while everyone is having a good life. So whether it’s working to live, or living to work, if we don’t prioritize getting ourselves a reliable job, we will never thrive in this kind of challenging environment.

We all have different choices in life, but what’s important is, even if we take different paths and approaches, there’s only one direction and goal, and that is to live our life the way we want it to be, to live our freedom the meaningful and productive way.

The government is the one to blame for this. It's in their best interests to keep us in the simulation. That way, they can control our lives in any way they want. The system is designed where the poor remain poor, and the rich, richer. After all, it's wealthy people who usually invest in government bonds, treasuries, and whatnot.

These days it's getting harder to live a comfortable life due to stubborn inflation. You'd need multiple sources of income to be able to achieve true financial freedom. Only if you're lucky, of course. Thank God Bitcoin was invented. Maybe there's hope after all?

This real problem must also be addressed more wisely by everyone, as some people often lose sight of the time they spend working, even though it is a valuable asset for themselves. Therefore, the level of balance and the burden we must shoulder through work or similar activities must be truly within our reach, because the goal of working and earning money is financial freedom, or in other words, becoming a more independent person. However, when social standards continue to interfere and become the benchmark, this will only increase the burden on ourselves.

I think many of them care in the world and that's why they're doing charity works. But not all of them cared for the welfare of the people and help the world here. Although they are not obligated to help the world and the people just because they are rich. Many of these rich people came from nothing and understands the struggle of a normie and that's why they are there to guide and help them throughout the process because that's what they have assigned themselves in doing it. While us, we might work until we are dead and out of this world but we shouldn't compromise the happiness that we can give to ourselves through other means while we work.

In Capitalism societyK the work is seen as a mean to reach financial stability and luxuryK which incentivize people to work hard to achieve their ambitious dreams. Therefore, over focusing on those goals by working hard can lead to damaging personal and social life, which makes the human live to work instead of working to live a life that has realmeaning.
So the challenge is by achieving a balance that allows the person to live his own life life that allows him to enjoy his time, without that the work makes him lose his spirit and purposes in life.

Job also has become identity these days and I see it more and more in the offices. People just work and go home when it's time to sleep.
Nothing we can do about it because the market is getting tougher and our purchasing power has plummeted.

Apparently it's just human adapting to the market which is doing many jobs and side hustle to make ends meet and to save a little.

People work to earn money for family and life security, but stagnant wages and rising needs cause struggles. Despite progress, many barely meet basics.

With people who work all day and come home only to sleep, I think this is especially true for office or factory workers. I often see so many people going to work every morning and coming home in the afternoon, some even working the same day. And as far as I know, they only get one day off, and that's probably for family. I've imagined working like that, but I don't think I'd be able to do it; sometimes, just the thought of it makes me sick.
But I respect those like this because there may be no other way to survive than working, so they have to survive that way.

Most people will follow the path of least resistance, they will look for a job that is available, sometimes one that is not too demanding, and because of this, they may earn less money than they could if they had received a good education and found a high-paying job. If we rely only on an average salary, unfortunately, it is often not enough for a person to become financially independent, because most of the income will have to be spent on housing, food, clothing, and other necessities. Sometimes, such people may not even have any money left to create even small savings.

The only way to financial freedom is through investment and setting up a financial system that keeps money flowing in and out. in today's world that we find ourselves we can't run away from expenses because expenses is just part of life this is why you can face life only depending on a salary because salary is never enough. Anyone who doesn't look beyond his salary will definitely work to live because, life will make you look like you are not putting in enough effort this is why people are always talking about increasing their salary but no matter how much is added to the salary it's not enough. Looking out for a business is the solution to this and in this digital era acquiring digital assets like Bitcoin will be a good step towards escaping poverty.

If everybody follows this rule, the whole system would collapse. The majority of people have their lives depends on average salary and in many cases even less than the average. This is fundamental in capitalism that people should suffer from luck of basics so they can stay slaves for the system. Karl Marx tried to describe well the Capitalism, but he described much better how it's another version of slavery, just like feodalism.

Should I say it's survival of the fittest because we are on heals to earn a living the reason most people double their income inorder to be financially buoyant enough to attend to their needs and demands. And since the system is needing so much from us it's high time we channel the energy to building something that would be profitable and be gauge over the inflation and economic crises.

We are actually in a time where money plays a bigger role than ever before. People now don't just work to survive they run to survive. As income increases so do needs but the funny thing is that most people's income does not increase in line with the improvement in their lifestyle. This is why, many people look for alternatives such as investing trading or decentralized assets like Bitcoin. However the problem is that many people see investing as a way to get rich quick when in fact it is a game of patience knowledge and risk management. In my opinion, both work and investment are necessary but you have to keep the balance. It is easy to lose peace of mind if you only work and there is a possibility of losing stability if you only take risks in investing.

It is survival and everyone who's working hard and yet, it's not even enough to enjoy the kind of living that we have. And that's because the salaries that we earn are mostly going to bills, the bills that are there for us to make us survive the hardship of this life. Doubling our income is one way but we're not robots or AIs that can do it for as long as we live but this is what the majority does nowadays in order to keep up with the expenses and to continue surviving living from this world. However, I think that all of us here that has bitcoin are very grateful to have it and at least, we're one way ahead from the others who are surviving, we're still surviving but not anymore in the race.

Does that mean those who don't understand the digital world (bitcoin) including those who suffer losses?
Everyone has their own perspective, especially men who are mature and aware of their circumstances, so they will work hard, either for themselves or to support their families. I've heard statements like "men only live to work." I feel this is most likely true.
While we may still be underage, we are still the responsibility of our parents, but as adults, we must be able to support our families, so working is the most appropriate thing. Although not everyone realizes this, it is the reality. When single, men must be able to support themselves or even their families. When married, they must be able to support their families, such as their future wives and children.

We should not live to work, the way others are, but we should work with the intention that we want to live and survive life, because it's a choice, if we live to work, then it shows that it's can only be by our efforts that we can make it and survive, but when we are working to live, we take it as part of the necessary behavior and responsibilities that must be taken by us to make a living and achieve our goals.