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Title: Why isn’t Bitcoin using BTQ’s ML-DSA yet? Post by: Quantum_Resolve7987V on October 20, 2025, 07:20:23 AM I just read [this article](https://thequantuminsider.com/2025/10/16/btq-technologies-announces-quantum-safe-bitcoin-using-nist-standardized-post-quantum-cryptography/) about BTQ’s ML-DSA demonstration, which seems like a landmark achievement in making Bitcoin quantum-safe. If it’s ready today, why hasn’t the network adopted it? I’m hesitant to go all in on Bitcoin until I understand why it’s not in use.
Title: Re: Why isn’t Bitcoin using BTQ’s ML-DSA yet? Post by: Emjay24 on October 20, 2025, 08:44:18 AM I just read [this article](https://thequantuminsider.com/2025/10/16/btq-technologies-announces-quantum-safe-bitcoin-using-nist-standardized-post-quantum-cryptography/) about BTQ’s ML-DSA demonstration, which seems like a landmark achievement in making Bitcoin quantum-safe. If it’s ready today, why hasn’t the network adopted it? Its ready doesn't mean is safe and the best shot for adoption, there are other post quantum proposals (https://blog.projecteleven.com/posts/a-look-at-post-quantum-proposals-for-bitcoin) before it which are still under review. Bitcoin devs don't just adopt a solution because its ready, it has to go through several validation stages to ensure its adoption isn't going to be jeopardizing the network security.Quote I’m hesitant to go all in on Bitcoin until I understand why it’s not in use. Its your choice, if Fiat makes more sense to you than Bitcoin, then continue trusting a system that exposes your funds to inflation and depreciationTitle: Re: Why isn’t Bitcoin using BTQ’s ML-DSA yet? Post by: ABCbits on October 20, 2025, 09:10:30 AM I just read [this article](https://thequantuminsider.com/2025/10/16/btq-technologies-announces-quantum-safe-bitcoin-using-nist-standardized-post-quantum-cryptography/) about BTQ’s ML-DSA demonstration, which seems like a landmark achievement in making Bitcoin quantum-safe. To be exact, it's press release rather than article. It's written by someone who work on that company rather than journalist or programmer. If it’s ready today, why hasn’t the network adopted it? It's just claim from company BTQ Technologies. I also find it's very weird the press release claim it's production ready, but there's no link to the source code or actual proof of the demo. Title: Re: Why isn’t Bitcoin using BTQ’s ML-DSA yet? Post by: Quantum_Resolve7987V on October 21, 2025, 12:05:18 AM Its ready doesn't mean is safe and the best shot for adoption, there are other post quantum proposals (https://blog.projecteleven.com/posts/a-look-at-post-quantum-proposals-for-bitcoin) before it which are still under review. some of them look like ugly "hacks". but whatever.Quote Bitcoin devs don't just adopt a solution because its ready, it has to go through several validation stages to ensure its adoption isn't going to be jeopardizing the network security. i dont think bitcoin devs are nearly this extensive in their due diligences. if all of this is true:NIST ML-DSA Integration: Complete replacement of vulnerable ECDSA signatures with FIPS 204 standardized ML-DSA (formerly Dilithium), providing 128-bit post-quantum security Full Transaction Lifecycle: Support for wallet creation, transaction signing, verification, and mining with quantum-resistant cryptography Consensus Modifications: Increased block size to 64 MiB and script limits to accommodate larger post-quantum signatures Mainnet and Testnet Genesis: New genesis blocks mined with production-ready parameters for both mainnet and testnet deployments To be exact, it's press release rather than article. It's written by someone who work on that company rather than journalist or programmer. Quote It's just claim from company BTQ Technologies. I also find it's very weird the press release claim it's production ready, but there's no link to the source code or actual proof of the demo. i think this company has a history of this type of press releases and products. but they claim they have started the BTQ Foundation to fund open source development but you go to their website and you don't even see sh**. https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/btq-stock-rises-after-demonstrating-quantumsafe-bitcoin-implementation-93CH-4292322 Investing.com -- BTQ Technologies Corp. (NASDAQ:BTQ) stock gained 7% in premarket trading Thursday after the company announced a successful demonstration of a quantum-resistant Bitcoin implementation using NIST-standardized post-quantum cryptography. a press release can make the stock go higher. Title: Re: Why isn’t Bitcoin using BTQ’s ML-DSA yet? Post by: ABCbits on October 21, 2025, 08:42:28 AM Quote Bitcoin devs don't just adopt a solution because its ready, it has to go through several validation stages to ensure its adoption isn't going to be jeopardizing the network security. i dont think bitcoin devs are nearly this extensive in their due diligences. if all of this is true:NIST ML-DSA Integration: Complete replacement of vulnerable ECDSA signatures with FIPS 204 standardized ML-DSA (formerly Dilithium), providing 128-bit post-quantum security Full Transaction Lifecycle: Support for wallet creation, transaction signing, verification, and mining with quantum-resistant cryptography Consensus Modifications: Increased block size to 64 MiB and script limits to accommodate larger post-quantum signatures Mainnet and Testnet Genesis: New genesis blocks mined with production-ready parameters for both mainnet and testnet deployments New genesis block? Without additional explanation, i would assume they actually create new coin rather than adding new cryptography to current Bitcoin network/protocol. Quote It's just claim from company BTQ Technologies. I also find it's very weird the press release claim it's production ready, but there's no link to the source code or actual proof of the demo. i think this company has a history of this type of press releases and products. but they claim they have started the BTQ Foundation to fund open source development but you go to their website and you don't even see sh**. Yeah. I just checked their website, but i only found brief explanation of their product and contact form (rather than source code). Title: Re: Why isn’t Bitcoin using BTQ’s ML-DSA yet? Post by: Quantum_Resolve7987V on October 22, 2025, 05:08:00 AM Yeah. I just checked their website, but i only found brief explanation of their product and contact form (rather than source code). yeah and what about this foundation they claim to be starting: BTQ Foundation to Coordinate Industry-Wide Quantum Defense Recognizing that protecting the broader $4 trillion cryptocurrency market requires coordinated action, BTQ announces the establishment of the BTQ Foundation, co-chaired by BTQ Technologies. The Foundation’s mission focuses on: Funding Development: Supporting open-source development of quantum-safe blockchain infrastructure to protect the entire cryptocurrency ecosystem Dynamic Consensus Building: Coordinating rapid response to evolving quantum threats through flexible governance structures Standards Leadership: Leveraging BTQ’s chairmanship of QuINSA (Quantum Internet Standards Alliance) to establish industry-wide quantum security standards Migration Frameworks: Developing tools and best practices for transitioning trillions in digital assets to quantum-safe architectures before quantum computers arrive This thing reminds me of Bitcoin Cash and that fake satoshi guy. >:( |