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There have been so much argument about gambling being a game of luck and not necessarily skill but is that really true? Sports betting is not entirely based on lucky because there can be expertise in analysis that can give a gambling some form of advantage and ease to win gambling. Am I thinking too much or skill is definitely the major factor in sports betting and not luck?

Luck is ths major factor that leads to profit when gambling and not skill so don't get it twisted. In sportbet, if you want to depend on your skills alone, you win never win anything because no matter hoa you analyze the gane if luck isn't at your side, it's a waste of time. Ac lot of gamblers would have been multimillionaires assuming sportbet is more of skill like you put it because most gamblers stake on sportbet than any other games.

In sports bets you have to consider both skills and luck put together before you can achieve wining. Skills may have larger roles to play because you don't just pick the teams like the casino games.

Analysing the game based on datas and key role players in the games gives players very good advantage. So after all efforts, you will not be guaranteed of the outcome, so the outcome of the game should have to determine your position if you get it wrong or not.

Does this matter, though? Let's say it's 40% skill and 60% luck; it doesn't mean you can just play games and win 6 out of 10 every time. Feels like it's a topic where it's meaningless to argue against the opposite side and just move on asap since it won't affect the results at all. Other than finding a topic to debate just for the sake of it, I guess.

I don't agree with you Mr Sim_card when it comes to sports betting that luck is the major factor. You can say that about casino games like slot, roulette, dice and others but for sports betting, you need to put in some works to analyze the games, check injuries and present form of the players and also compare head-to-head to know what option is best for the match you want to play. If you neglect these and close your eyes to select a parlay, you will rarely win and even if you do, your win rate will be nowhere near that of someone that do proper analysis.

I'd say it's both and neither.

If you're gambling without a strategy that has positive expected value then it's a gsme for enjoyment.

If you're doing something that gives positive expected value (or neutral) you're relying on both luck and skill (luck to not liquidate you and skill to make picks that a profitable and not make mistakes - although mistake making can also be luck based).

Why are the sport betting sites making money from people always, paying workers and maintaining their sites? Some people will think betting is more about skills but they are losing, just know that. You can have the skills to maximize your winning but know that any match you won is still luck. Some people learn the skilled part and know how to analyze but they are still losing.

When we are talking about gambling in general, then we are not being specific here to know or determine whether they are referring to a particular game or not, because the games are not the same pattern in gambling, some require skills from us while soendo not and they depend only on luck, which type of game we are playing when gambling will then determine what we get from it.

Actually, this came to my mind before. Skills are needed, but you can’t win without luck. No matter what kind or form of gambling you do, you’ll always need luck, even in skill based ones like sports betting or poker. Analysis will help you, but it’s not guaranteed, that’s why you still need luck. Does it mean you need luck more than skills? Or maybe it’s just that our skills aren’t enough? Or is it just part of gambling’s nature that most of the time the house always wins?

Actually luck plays a huge role when it comes to gambling, even though it's possible to increase the chances of winning through skills you still depend on luck because skills only work to a certain extent. Relying one hundred percent on skills isn't really advised, this has made a lot of gamblers too confident and they end up losing a lot of money. We need luck as much as we need skills in gambling, they both go together

You are mixing it up with what others are saying and what you are believing. Sports betting both requires luck and skill but what's needed most there is skill on how to do analysis. But you can also bypass that and just rely on your luck, choose the games and teams that you like to bet and see if they're going to make it. We're free to bet on these games without having the need to analyze when we're confident of being lucky. There's no such requirements for us to bet to any of these games as long as we've got money to do it, the bet will proceed.

This matter has been deliberated repeatedly on various occasions and I don't see reasons to why we will keep on emphasizing on this for long, but that not withstanding I still maintain to say gambling is base on luck. Although skill play a good role in making a gambler to have more edge of wining because of good prediction that may leed to nearly %70 to %80 Chance of wining but that doesn't still guarantee sure win. Because sometimes you may make an  analysis and become sure of wining from your track record with confidence and yet be disappointed by losing, but sometimes when you don't have confident in such game, you.may be lucky to win. So now tell me how wining is skill base and not luck?

In all kinds of gambling games, luck is always the ultimate factor. No matter how skillful you are, if luck isn’t on your side, then it’s hard to expect getting profits in gambling. So I don’t see the relevance of choosing from these two, instead have these two because they are what it takes to finally getting advantage from gambling casinos.

Skill and luck should be inseparable, and shouldn’t go one way or another. So if you want to get the best of sports betting, make sure you’re not just skilled enough but also lucky and favored by the market.

I would say that luck is still needed even in skill base games or in sports betting. Because there is still the factor of unknown existing, so we really don't know how it won't end the game even if we put our focus on the analysis or we might have a good batting record on certain sports.

Maybe in like poker, the river turns out to be in your favor, or in sports betting, suddenly the other team was able to make a good run and won the game by just 1 point or the leading team's top player got injured and so the complexion of the game changes and they lost the game even though they are the overwhelming favorite.

When you gambling, then you are suppose to make use of skills and pray for luck. No
Matter how skillful you are, you Won’t be right always, when you are about to place a bet, you will have done your analysis, and you going to think everything is already right, but after the match ends, the result is going to be shocking, what you don’t even expect might be the result, so it’s just better you always pray for luck also when you are gambling, actually you are also suppose to be skillful.

Just imagine someone that doesn’t understand anything about sport bet decide to gamble, you should know that it’s not really going to be easy for the person, if the person isn’t lucky, then their is no way the person will be winning, but if you are skillful, you already know things to do which can make you win your bet.

I believe skill is more important than luck when one intends to make gambling a serious financial investment of sort.
Only skills will make a gambler know the exact strategy to use to have an edge over the house because there is a way to bet and strategies to adopt that may bring more luck than others.

Luck in my own sense is just the God factor that makes a bet click, otherwise what would one call it if every bet results in a loss?

They are confused and don't believe them. We've got our own ways of how we're playing sports betting.

IMO, it really needs skills if you want to thrive in this game because if you're so reliant to your luck, you're going to throw as much money as you can.

Determining on how your bets will be, you'd based it on your skills but you can also just try your luck every time you do so but maybe after 2nd or 3rd try and it doesn't work, you have to change your strategy afterwards.

Similar topics had been discussed many times here.
Casinos are purely based on luck, no strategy and analysis is needed, you just strike the bet button and the system decide the outcome for you, balls cannot be altered to the multiplier you want at the point of motion.

Sport betting is also based on luck but can slightly be altered based on the analysis and strategies put on ground, you could analyze that top club can win an underdog at home ground with 1.12 odds which literally is sure to occur, the analysis had reduced the risk level and increases the luck level to your advantage, but its not certain the prediction is sure.

There is no how you will talk about gambling or sport betting without mentioning luck, this because you need it even if you are a football pundit or analyst that knows everything about the record and stats and also knows everything about respective teams forms Ana players form as well.

If you are have good gambling or sport prediction skills through good analysis from respective websites and opinions and through H2H, last games encounters and last few matches performance against other teams, you can predict a game with 80% assurance, you can’t be 100% sure because you need luck to make it happen because no matter how good you are with predictions, some predictions will go opposite direction.

Skill play a part in sports betting to a large extent but you cannot remove the importance of luck either. Skill might make you to analyze match correctly but a simple red card will spoil your bet, this is how luck comes into play because through luck, the red card can be in your favor. We should not ignore the importance of luck but it is absolutely difficult to depend on luck entirely, hence the need to have some skills to survive in sportsbetting.

In my opinion I think skill and luck is a strong pair which can never be separated, take for instance those gamblers that have been in this space for years and have never experienced a single win. Can you agree with me that it can be possible? Of course is possible reason been that they prioritize luck over knowledge. I have seen some people diving into gambling with empty knowledge since they are being told that gambling is purely based on luck that is why they decided to do whatever they feel like even when they're doing the wrong thing yet they feel that they're doing the right thing so long as luck is involved. that is the reason why most people are frequently complaining about not being lucky to win in gamble, Those who have build enough knowledge about gambling can decide to apply some skills when they're in a long losing streak and this would help them reduce thier chance of losing.

From my personal experience I will conclude that gambling definitely depends on luck. If you have some experience in sports betting, you can get some help. But in all types of betting, luck is our real companion.

I want to share an experience from the past few days. In the game of Liverpool vs Manchester United, we all know that Liverpool is a very good team. Manchester United's performance has not been good this season. That match was supposed to be won by Liverpool without any competition. But I was really surprised to see Liverpool concede a goal in the first 6 minutes of the game. At the end of the match, the score was Liverpool 1 Manchester United 2. Our experience has never been useful in playing such an unexpected game. So I believe that any gambling works more on luck.

Skills and luck goes together, it is important not to neglect anyone one of them as a gambler because this is the right mindset to have. If you depend only on luck you might lose a lot of times and if you depend only on skills there is a possibility that you might end up getting disappointed when your strategy doesn't work, it's like betting on a sports game that you are sure of only to end up losing based on factors

OP lets take a quick example. Today, a lot of gamblers won money, because their analysis went the exact way they expected it. However, it all depends on luck because if by analysis alone, one or more game might be a hindrance to their potential win.

The thing is, both the analysis and the luck plays a vital role in sports betting. The conclusion of the whole argument still remains that one cannot do without the other. They are both needed.

It is obvious that in sports betting, knowledge of the sport, knowing how to read the data, gives you a more important advantage than luck itself, because if we put Real Madrid against a fourth division team, surely someone who knows about the sport will choose Real Madrid to win, on the other hand, if you put a 2-year-old child who has never seen football to choose, they will choose by chance.

Playing sport bet is by what you know and not what you you got by privilege or luck, though it can still work not the same way we have expected for them to play out, because the skill part of it is there as the same way for the team you supported to deliver the same way you have wanted, if they don't deliver, then you will hear some saying that it wasn't your luck, but if they do, others will say it's their skills that got them the right winning.

Luck is still the factor, and it will show up in tight games where both competing parties or fighters are of equal talent and power, and there have been so many instances where the underdog beats the favorite.
Even the best sports bettor still acknowledges luck as one of the factors that will make a realization of his bets. I know of a friend who is very good at analyzing horses, yet when I asked him about his bets, he always ended with the word "wish me luck." He still considers luck a factor.

As many times we are going to have discussion on this topic, the final conclusion won't be placed alone on skill or luck.

My opinion is that both skill and luck are important, whether they are administered equally or no-equally.

You can win a bet by picking randomly, that will be luck but regards to consistent winning or long parlay bets, applying skill and then resting lastly on luck is the only solution to stay profitable during an ideal period of gambling.

Yeah, it's hard to conclude it and it will only depend as per experience of each of us. In my experience, luck plays a part but I don't think that it's the entire thing needed by a gambler. Because even if I'm lucky if the players I am betting to aren't lucky, then that's already the end of the bet that I do. And if I am just the casual gambler and I'm very much lucky with all of my bets then so I am. We will not determine if we are lucky in time and it will only result if we do. So, luck is also the action of ourselves when we bet but skills is a required thing when we gamble because we are doing our part.

There is no gambling without luck and we should not expect to ever come out successful with just our skills, because skills alone are not enough to win a gambling game left alone to have a repeated winnings from your games with help of your analysis and skills and without any form of luck to push you to the winning line, that thing will not work out fine as you think in this writing.

When it comes to skills, I would say that Poker is the best gambling gales to relate with, because it’s mainly based on the way someone plays and manages to win more than lose. Just like so many rich people just by playing Poker for years. There is always luck in gambling which is the main factor of entertainment.

When it comes to sports betting, things are a bit different because you cannot control that much, you have just to pick a side and the team or player is responsible for your outcome, that’s why it’s mainly based on luck.

You are not thinking too much. It is about skills. If you work hard to analyze what the possible result will be, then your chances of winning grow unless the other team or player gets lucky and the team you bet for loses despite all the analysis you made. It happens.

Luck is something we cannot rely on or should not rely on when it comes to sports betting. The love for the game will be one factor to have an idea which team will win, and being updated is also a big factor in it. Those two things do not rely on luck. It's our knowledge about the game. To win, we will just have to upgrade that knowledge.

Luck will always be a factor of gambling. So don't get disillusioned that you can eradicate such factor. But you can change the narrative of your gambling if you will go to other games such as poker or sportsbetting, where skills is a very good advantage, that may increase your winnings. But with regular casino games, I don't think you can change the narrative here because the luck factor plays the major role of how the outcome will come out to be.

That is why there is a separation of sports betting and gambling. Is there any skill in slots? Or in roulette? A lot of your usual games in casinos only involves luck but sports betting requires analyzations and extensive knowledge of the sport. All which can't only be boiled down to luck but since we are still betting on whatever may happen in the future, we can't say that it is fully reliant only on skills.

Skills can be improved within time, what means if it was the determining factor in gambling, you would see many gamblers increasing their profitability rates along the time, while what you see in fact is gamblers losing the more they play. It means the correlation between skills and profit in gambling is inversely proportional. Therefore, here is your evidence that skills don't matter in gambling to improve your performance. It's mainly about luck which no one has control over.

Add this to the house edge element and you will discover that even by being a lucky gambler it's still not enough, because the house isn't playing from equal to equal against you. In warlike terms, it's like saying you may win few battles, but the war is lost...

Those praises are usually coming when we're doing something good and the results are out positively. If they see that we're good with most of our bets then that's nice.

But it's normal for them to say that we're out of luck if we start losing. I guess that's part of the gambling community and the feed back that we give to the others when we're doing good or bad.

So, as a gambler, it's a matter of what we think we're good at. If we're lucky then we shouldn't be putting all the burden to it and we still have the chances through our skills which is an important factor when we bet with sports.

You're right skill plays a very big role in poker, because the rate of winners in poker game can never be compared with that of sport betting even though the both requires skill but I think skill work most in poker than sport betting, though I'm not good at poker game but I think I have tried it once or twice with this two attempts I can testify that poker is quite different from sport betting. So long as gambling is concerned skill and luck is needed if you omite one among this two then be rest assured of having series of losses.

I don't know which is bigger. I just know that even if you have the best skills in sportsbetting, you still need a bit of luck to make it tick. While someone with almost no skills will can win effortlessly just because they're extremely lucky with their bets. However, I do recognize that luck can only take one so far and if one relies too much on lucky, when it fades away, they will be exposed as frauds that are dependent only on luck.

Both luck and skill play an important role in winning gambling, if you have good luck and no experience then you will bet on guesswork no research no interest in the team you will bet blindly and you will be more likely to lose. And if you do not have good luck then no matter how much research you do luck did not help you win gambling.
So I would say both luck and skill play a major role in gambling, the luckier you are and the more skilled you are the more likely you are to win gambling.

Gambling is a general term that encompasses both sport betting, casinos games and other activities, these types of gambling have it's requirements. If you are playing casinos games such as sweet bonanza, ocean hunt and crash, etc, skill will not play any role for you to win but luck will. If you are playing table games like poker, skill and luck is needed to help you win. If you are also sport betting, skill and luck have to work hand in hand to help you win. So, if you are playing a skill based game and you have good skills on the games, it will give you an edge to win but you also have to hope that luck doesn't go against you.

In sports betting, there's no such thing as luck, only skill. You can test it for yourself:

You have 20 games, 10 of which have odds of @1.10 and the other 10 have odds of @15.00. Don't analyze the 20 games, and then test your luck by betting on the 10 games with odds of @15.00. Other people who only believe in skill will analyze the game and bet on the 10 games with odds of @1.10. In the end, you'll see who will win more games. Then you'll see for yourself if you can actually win more games compared to the people who analyzed the games.

there’s something flawed with this experiment first of all if you want to analyze games you’d know that the lower the odds the more likely it is to happen people will bet on those low odds in order to win easily but the metric of winning more games shouldn’t be basis of whether gambling is skill based or luck based.

I would say that luck is actually the major factor when it comes to gambling because this is something that deals with a lot of uncertainty...Doing research and all of that is cool but that cannot help you completely, there also other factors that can affect the hardwork that you put into analysing...but it's good to also be skillful do that you don't always have to rely too much on luck. Having skills can help you increase chances of winning

Sports betting isn’t just about luck, there’s a good amount of skill involved too. In the end, maybe only like 5% is luck, like when something unexpected happens and the favorite ends up losing. It really comes down to how good you are at analyzing games. If you’re able to read the data properly and look at everything as a whole, your chances of winning go way up and you don’t rely on luck as much. So yeah, it all depends on how well you can break down the match with the info you’ve got.

That's why most of us classify things like this. Gambling is greater towards luck that cannot be said to be wrong, it's just that not all types of games in gambling make this as a benchmark.
It is understandable when saying this is based on casino or original games because more original and casino games depend on luck but it is different in relation to sportsbetting.

Certainly every gambling has luck in it but for sportsbetting this can be minimized where luck can be picked up in several ways such as analysis and making the right decisions.
I want to take an example from what I do myself because I love soccer so indirectly I am always in football betting even almost every week and that makes me know that analysis and decision making is an important thing when we want to bet. Not that there is no luck in it because of course luck also plays a role, it's just that for sportsbetting the luck can be picked up unlike original games and casinos where we expect luck far more than anything else.

You're right, there will be always debate about the luck or skills that brings bigger impact in sports betting. It is because people view it from different perception. However, we can't deny that the luck factor has a big role because it sometimes determines the final result. Sure, analysis is needed but it can't guarantee the result.

Analysis (skills) also takes a role in sports betting. But it will be useless when we have no luck. In many cases, big teams (favorite teams) can be defeated in the match because they play underperformance. Also, the team which really dominated the match can be defeated because they failed to score a single goal. This is because of the unlucky factor of the team. So, there is no doubt that the "luck" is the major factor.

This will depend on the type of gambling we're playing. When it comes to slots or similar games, luck is undoubtedly the biggest factor, unless we can cheat and outwit the system. However, this chance seems quite small.

However, for skill-based gambling, both are quite important, especially the ability to analyze and implement them, which can increase the odds of winning. But again, luck also plays a significant role here, because if you're having bad luck, even if you're already doing well, the outcome can suddenly be deviated from your expectations, as is the case with sports betting.

This is only true if we're talking about a single match or an event at a specific moment. For example, bets like who will score in a particular minute are definitely ones whose outcomes depend purely on luck. However, if you place a long-term bet, for instance, on which team will finish first at the end of the tournament, then your analytical skills play a key role, not just luck.

In sports betting analysis often feels like the key to success studying form statistics and player performance can give a sense of control and logic but luck still finds its way into every result a single mistake a missed goal or a sudden injury can change everything in seconds even the strongest team can fall when fortune turns against them and the numbers stop meaning anything in those moments the truth of gambling shows itself that no amount of skill can fully protect you from chance. Luck decides the instant bets the quick ones that depend on moments within the match like guessing who scores next or how many goals appear before halftime these kinds of wagers rely less on thought and more on pure randomness they move too fast for strategy to matter and every outcome becomes a coin toss disguised as a choice the excitement comes from not knowing and the risk is what keeps people hooked.

Yet when betting long term skill begins to matter more predicting how a team will perform over an entire tournament allows space for logic to shape the decision analysis of form consistency and management can outweigh small bursts of luck across time because luck fades when measured against performance that repeats the better the understanding the stronger the chance of staying ahead at least for a while.

no matter the kind of skills a gambler may seem to have acquired as regards sports betting without luck being on the gambler side the chances of winning isn't there.The evidence of this is inexperienced or gambler's that just selects game randomly without any skill or analysis do still win even with there lack of skill but because gambling is a game of luck and luck seen to be on there side that's why it is so..

You are right because I have been betting for years and I know how betting is. There was a day I chose 1.01 odd, I thought that I would win the bet, but I lost the bet. That was the day I knew betting is also about luck and not skills. You can have the skills, stake on a match and still lose.

I also remember the first matches that I bet on, I did not know much about sport at the time, I only selected some matches but I won more than lost in the single bets.

I think the percentage is more than that, we can say 20% to 30% luck and 80% to 70% skills. I have always known that skill is important in sports betting that we have people who provide betting tips for a few and they have thousands of subscribers. I even follow some of those tipsters on social media and they have been dishing out winning tickets weekly. Those tips were not given by luck but a product of their skill; there is no way luck can make you get the outcome of 15 matches correctly like some of them do.

sports betting skill definitely plays a role especially when it comes to analysing stats, player form, team tactics & situational factors. A skilled bettor can consistently find value bets & make smarter predictions over time but luck can’t be ignored either, because no matter how good your analysis is unexpected events like a red card, an injury/a last-minute goal can flip the outcome. Skill helps you make informed choices and minimise losses & luck still decides the short-term results. I’d say skill shapes consistency but luck determines moments.

For me Luck is actually coincidence, there isnt this magical thread weaving through
life which can affect us negatively or positively.

In sports nobody can tell from second to second what is going to happen.
Humans^players can react in numerous ways to a certain situation so we can do all
the research and data compilation of any given match which is all very complimentary
and which is favourable but it is not a guarantee of winning because any number of
unforseen events can happen which can kill out bet.

With or without analysis beforehand we call random coincidental events as "Lucky" or "unlucky"

Skill, analysis, knowledge definitely is beneficial when it comes to sports betting
but as I said its not a 100% guarantee to winning.

In sports betting, I think luck and skill are two things that cannot be separated or are interrelated to be able to produce a win, skill does help increase the chances but it also has to be confirmed by luck, or what I mean is even if you have bet by applying analysis according to the data but if for example at that time you are unlucky then defeat can still occur, one example is that it is not uncommon for me to see big teams losing to weak teams or even teams that are in the relegation zone, blunders or mistakes made by the stronger team make them lose at the last minute and that means you are unlucky.

Basically when learning practical and theoretical aspects are required and that's the same way it is for gambling skills and luck are one of the factors required to five you a thrilling experience while you aim for the Best results. So in some situations both may not be applied like you'll have to make use of either skills to analyse and luck to fuel the process thereby resulting to a win at the end. So skill may not only be the actual factor but luck as well it's another .

I would rely on luck more. Because I dont think there is much skill in sports betting. You can be familiar with sports, but that means you are only good at knowing information. You still cant guess anything with 100% probability. For me then skill gives false hope to win. False believe that something depends from you, when all is still randomized a lot.

I would not exactly call it skill but I will call it experience. Because no matter how we choose to look at it, sports betting it about luck. And I define luck here are when the variables are outside of your control are more than the ones within your control. And this is sports betting for you. But if it is a game where you are actively playing against someone, you will need top skills to beat the person. In sports betting it is expereince plus luck. Your expereince will guide you on how to place a best that will at least give you the best chance of winning. It also includes the amount of money to bet, they type of game to bet on, the number of games to bet on and many more. And if luck shines on your path, you win.

Gambling in general is purely based on luck but it is different once we talk about specific game such as sports betting and poker. Skills can be major factor in sports betting and luck can be the other factors, both are involved. However can your skills give you always luck? Of course not, because once a bad luck come in the sports you are betting, no matter how great skills you have, no matter how experiences you are, you may lose your bets although you were 100% sure that you will win the bet.

Gambling is a game of luck in general, although being skilled plays it's role in some certain areas like sports betting but the fact that the house edge supercedes means that luck has the most role to play, that's why sometimes you'll see very skilled bettors still lose games they're very confident on, if their skill was the major criteria needed for winning maybe many casinos and sports booking platforms would've gone bankrupt.

In gambling, whether it is a luck-based game or skill skill-based game, luck always overrides everything.  So, in question which plays the bigger role in sports betting, I can say that luck will always play a bigger role in sports betting.  Skill may increase our chance of predicting the correct outcome, but if luck does not shine on us, even if we bet on the favorite(stronger team), the random factor will make the underdog win, making us lose the bet.

There is a lot of debate on this issue. If you bet on sports, you will bet on the team that you think is more reliable. Betting after knowing and reviewing the details about that team is the sign of a prudent gambler. To know about the team, you need to gain skill. Betting based on guesswork is not wise. Bet on the team that you understand well and the team whose performance seems satisfactory.

If you do not have skill, you will not win the bet by relying only on luck. Another thing is that the team you bet on may lose despite being a strong team. Most of the time, many people attribute this loss to luck. After all, to win in gambling you need to be skilled, and luck is also important.

Of course gambling is a strong part in an outcome. But in certain cases, you need to be really unlucky to achieve a lose.
Just to mention an easy case, likewise the boring "scalping" or "all green" methods rarely can end in a loss and if you have enough skills you can even collect 15-20 consecutive matches in profits.

Anyway here you discover that you need even more and more skills. Being constant isn't easy. Being able to manage promptly your coins and having a life etc etc isn't easy at all.
I am tryng to make this aspect always clear: If you talk about "profit" or something more that isn't just enjoy pure gambling you're entering in a "grey zone".
You are more measured for your working abilibilities and not just your luck or basic gambling skills.

Skill is actually the major factor here, there won't be any luck when you never make a good prediction, you can't just come up pick up some random game any options that you want gamble and then expect luck to be on your side, both works together skill and luck but you must first put some skill at work before luck will come.
So if you should win gambling don't hope of luck when you have not carefully done your prediction is not also a guaranteed that if your prediction is good that you will win but you will have a high level of winning.

There are people who think gambling in sports has advantage over others but I feel this is a wrong way to think. Sports betting is also based on luck to some extent and even if you are very skilled at predicting, you will not have any edge when the luck turns against you.

At thay time it is nothing in between but a win or a lose.

Hence dont be too confident about sports, you have equal chances of losing or winning that bet.

In sports, just as skill is needed in betting, luck is also needed. But yes, in sports, skill is very effective in betting. For example, 70% skill is effective and 30% luck is needed. In many such matches, big teams are defeated very badly by small teams. If we only talk about skill, then it will be wrong, both skill and luck are needed.

For example, if we talk about the Club World Cup, then we can understand. How did Real Madrid lose to Chelsea? Everyone thought that maybe Real Madrid would win but it didn't happen, Real Madrid lost very badly to Chelsea which was really unimaginable.

You're correct no matter how high luck is rated in gambling and how low the level of our skill is yet it play a good role, because without the help of skill all our efforts will just be in vain so no matter how low skill is rated in gambling yet is very important because we can't do without skill, because skill is more like having the full knowledge about what you're into. This way you can decide to apply some combo when you see that things is no longer working as you expected and then see if it works, and if you try it and it didn't work then you can decide to change to a different one until you get what you want why those that rely on luck will continue going with one particular method all the time which is why most people are so unlucky in gamble.

When it comes to gambling, I believe that luck plays a big role and indeed plays a big role in the context of the winnings obtained by players. But looking at the different types of gambling, there are games where the winnings depend purely on luck and others where skill can help.

Slot machine gambling, which is certainly no stranger to most people and is known by almost everyone, in my opinion, relies entirely on luck for its wins. So, we win only if we're lucky, although some people believe there are strategies to win at slot machine gambling, but that doesn't apply to me personally.

With sports betting, I believe skill plays a significant role because good skill can help us win by increasing the chances of winning. However, even then, luck is still involved.

I even wouldn`t try to remember how much times i see such a thread here...

The luck costs nothing if you is a long term player. Only high quality analyze would make you to make a right bet. If you make 10-100-1000 bets - you result can depend on luck, but with each new bet it would be smaller and smaller. As the result it can change your win rate for really small percent. Just use money management, avoid silly bets and try to make good analyze.

In gambling it helps to carry out analyzes of any kind, unfortunately the important factor that really matters is luck.
You can increase the probability percentage with analyses, but it is not mathematical certainty.
In gambling there is no skill, but only probability and luck, if these two meet at least once in someone's life, you have hit the jackpot!

If you talk about sports betting, the luck factor or the skill factor, in my experience, if I'm not mistaken, all of that can happen depending on sports betting, for example soccer.
If:
Arsenal FC vs. Crystal Palace FC clearly does not need guidance on luck, it is clear from whatever factor Arsenal is superior, whether in terms of players, teams, coaches and so on, another example of a match between Chelsea FC vs. Sunderland AFC is the same as above, for me maybe I can place a bet without needing luck and skill.
Exceptions: if Arsenal FC vs. Chelsea FC is just based on luck, if you use skills it doesn't necessarily mean that our analysis and predictions will be successful, both are equally strong.
Well, luck and skill in sports betting depend on the opponent you are playing, the same as in boxing, tennis, basketball and so on.

Both of them plays a big role in gambling. This has been discussed many times here as I can remember, the gambling industry has different kinds of games, some of them are just completely luck based because there's no form of strategy that will help you to become successful unless you are lucky, but there are also sports betting games which requires the bettors skill in making good prediction and also lucky for your prediction to go accordingly. Depending on the kind of game you are playing, you will know if luck or skill plays more role in making you successful.

Your skills in sports betting analysis are important. But you certainly know that football or other sports events in betting sometimes yield surprising results. That is where luck plays a role in helping you win bets.
You cannot rely solely on luck in sports betting as you would when playing slots. The result is inevitably a loss. You can test this yourself by asking someone who knows nothing about sports betting to place a few bets. You might observe that the person will probably only bet on the favored odds.

Yes, it probably helps to do some analysis for those who are good at betting, but I don't know. With poker you can memorize the cards dealt and do probability calculations. But I find it hard to do it for a long time, because then it's difficult, I tell you from experience, to stay focused for hours and hours when you play. My goal is to have fun, so I honestly don't feel like doing that.

You are absolutely right, as in the lottery, sports betting is also totally random, let's say you get closer to the result, but in sport like any other game the cards change continuously.
Even if we think that a match is a sure victory, you can understand (it happened to me) that an expected result of 1-1 ends at 2-1 because a player scored a goal in extra time.
Everything can change in seconds.

Based on my little experience in sports betting, I will say that both skill and luck play big roles in winning a bet. If someone does not have the skill to predict games, they will hardly see luck on their side. Sports betting is not like other games, such as casino games, where it fully depends on luck. Sports betting is based on what is happening in real life, and that is why it requires skill and good analysis.

There is always a chance of winning, but due to unknown circumstances, luck ends up playing a very big role in sports betting. It is very possible that someone does a very good analysis, but later what was predicted does not happen, because every player in the team can make mistakes  and some of these mistakes lead to surprising results.For example, when a big team plays against a very small team, it’s clear that the big team has a better chance of winning the game. But in the end, the small team may end up winning the match maybe one big player team make a mistake and recieve red card reduce number of big team.

This can be easily tested. Invite two people who fit your description: one who's completely unfamiliar with sports and the other a true fan. It doesn't take long to figure out that in one case, both can win, just as there's a chance they'll lose the second time. The best choice is to combine not only luck but also some knowledge, which should help you make an accurate prediction. Although, of course, I'd prioritize experience as a more frequent and reliable bettor.

In sports betting specifically skill plays a bigger role than luck but when it comes to casino gambling luck is the main factor behind it all because there's nothing that needs to be studied, everything was designed by the casino for gamblers to lose more. Sports betting is very different, if you are a strategic bettor it would be easier for you to win more than you lose if you follow the principles of risk management and you analyse your options carefully before making your final decision. Although you still need a small percentage of luck because your bets can't always go according to how you predicted it everytime

Yes, if that was the case not only true fans, but sports experts would consistently win their bets, but this is not the case, so I also doubt about the importance of knowledge in sports betting. Experience, however, could balance the scales thanks to a better risk management. But odds are "calculated to the millimetre" by sportsbooks so I don't think one can outsmart them no matter how skilled he is, because chance still plays a very significant role IMO.

The argument about whether gambling is luck or skill has been around for a long time and sports betting sits right in the middle of both worlds. Skill can improve your chances a little but it can never guarantee victory. You can study the players the teams their forms and the stats and still lose because one unpredictable moment can change everything. A small injury a referee’s decision or just an unlucky bounce can turn a sure win into a loss.

In sports betting knowledge helps you make smarter guesses not certain outcomes. A person who understands the game can see patterns and opportunities that others might miss. They can read odds better manage risk and know when not to bet at all. That’s where skill shows its strength but the truth is even the most skilled bettor faces the same randomness that rules every match. No one can control what happens on the field and that is where luck quietly takes charge. Bookmakers build their odds using deep analysis and statistics that leave little room for consistent advantage. They already account for skill and knowledge in their calculations. The edge they hold is mathematical and constant while the bettor’s edge is emotional and uncertain. This is why even sports experts often lose more than they win over time.

It is all about odds.
Bookies use many calculations to estimate the risks and to increase their gain margin. Their users use their skills and experience to take profit from them and to lower their possible losses.
There is some users that have barely a knowledge about football, yet they win big, very big, but they are a minority.
To return to my first sentence, using your skills increase your probability to win but the gain is generally lower than those relying on their luck who have at the end lower probability to win.

Perhaps we really shouldn't dwell too much on debating this issue. Every form of gambling does involve an element of luck, but in sports betting, we need the knowledge and skills that form the basis for placing our bets. Actually, we could place random bets, but I believe every bettor has their own knowledge related to the chosen sport. Sports betting is different from casino games, which indeed rely on luck.

There's nothing wrong with this experiment, see what @Sim_card said: "Luck is the major factor that leads to profit when gambling and not skill, so don't get it twisted." What he said is only valid for casino games that depend on luck, I'm talking about games like Pliko, lottery... but in sports betting, only skill matters. So, for him to see for himself, I put this experiment for him to do. He wouldn't need to analyze any game, he would just choose the 10 games with the highest odds and wait for luck. In the end, he would see how many games he could get right.

So long as the are both gamble (sport games or casino games) you need luck on both of them before you can be a winner. But you are right actually because you also need to be strategic in other to win from sport games. However, lets say I'm gambling in casino games, I will have a higher chance of luck before I can successfully win my bet. Casino games needs luck to win which is why a casino better really need to listen to his or her instincts and follow it because our instincts really helps when it comes to luck based activity.

In my opinion, both are working in synergy. You might be good, have the skills but if you get unfortunate, you sure will get burnt.

If you you don't have the needed skills sometimes you might be lucky and other times you become very miserable as there are time when the skill is what you need for your wins. Neither of both are enough, skill and luck play vital roles in the game.

In my opinion, sports betting isn't solely about luck, although the element of luck is still present and cannot be completely ignored. In sports betting, skill plays a crucial role in data and statistical analysis, such as understanding team performance, player performance, and other information that can influence a match. Understanding odds and betting value can also increase your chances of winning. Meanwhile, luck can also have a short-term impact, such as unexpected events during a match, referee errors, or other factors. Therefore, both skill and luck play a role in sports betting.

Luck and skill in gambling are intertwined. Analyzing a team doesn't guarantee victory. It's simply a technical approach to assessing a team with superior players, strategy, coaching, and history. Luck can still contribute to a win, even after careful analysis. For example, an unexpected victory on the field can occur when the team you bet on wins due to a penalty box challenge, after a previous foul was accidentally committed. I believe these types of instances can be considered luck in sports betting.

In any form of betting, luck cannot be eliminated, even in games that rely entirely on skill. Luck will always be present.

I disagree with your statement. I believe skill plays a crucial role in winning when betting on soccer. Luck doesn't happen often, in other words, it's rare, which is why it's called luck. If you don't believe me, try betting every week. For example, you bet on 10 matches using skill and 10 matches without using skill, you're betting randomly, hoping for luck. Then you'll see for yourself how your bets turn out.

So don't get it the wrong way around, bro. When you analyze a match and lose, and then say luck plays a role in sports betting, that's a big mistake. In 10 matches where you bet using skill, the potential for winning is greater; if one or two matches go wrong, that's normal. But when you bet on 10 matches randomly, your potential for winning is slim; you might only get lucky in one or two matches.

I certainly agree, at first I think skill based gambling games are all about skills, but the more I get to know how sports betting works, and poker works, the more I am convinced that luck always plays a crucial work on this games.  Just like in the earlier reply, no matter how strong our analysis that A team will win if luck plays the role and reverse the outcome of the match, our skills of analyzing things will become nothing since luck or the unknown factor in the game can always change the outcome of the match.

Obviously in a skill-based game, skill is needed to have an advantage but it can never overturn when luck kick in.

If it's about sport betting. Your skill might be useful to beat the house, but your luck also played a role. Someone needs to have better knowledge about the sport in order to increase his betting accuracy. while luck may help him when it comes to the tough game like a goal scored by your choice team in the last minute, maybe.

I totally get what you mean, and you’re not overthinking it at all. Sports betting isnt purely luck but theres definitely skill involved. When you really study the teams, players, stats, and even small details like weather or recent form, you start seeing patterns that casual bettors miss.

Luck still plays a role, of course and no one can predict everything perfectly in any given day of the game but skill and analysis can make a huge difference. It’s like any other field that the more knowledge and discipline you have, the better your chances get.  Id say its a mix of both, but skill definitely tips the balance if you take it seriously. Like in NBA basketball, thats where I bet most often and our local basketball program.

Skills have to do with the player's ability to set their bet positions, regulate how their emotions can be held and how strategies to win in interactive games and some sports betting.
And in the end, luck will play its role behind the scenes when there is no hope anymore, whether to win or lose it all.

If we talk about luck, I heard a story some time ago from my friend that he got a big jackpot with only a small capital and 5 times bet on slots,
it was luck and the win was then immediately taken by my friend and did not go into gambling anymore.

Try doing several tests on different days (I tried to do it).
Choose 4 teams totally at random, bet on them totally at random, then place a new bet on the same teams thinking about the possible result.

Finally go to check the results, repeat this operation for 3 consecutive weeks 1 time a week, you will see that you will still get totally random results.

It's not mathematics, it's probability and luck.

Many bettors become gamblers because gambling allows them to think less. If someone, being a bettor, places bets over and over, analyzing sleepless nights, and then finds out they haven't won anything, they'll obviously be very disappointed.
Especially when they hear that slot gamblers press one button, move in, and everything is fine. Especially when one of them wins jackpots. It's no wonder they become gamblers. And it's unlikely the other way around.

TBH, I still feel it is more of luck than skill. Yeah, little bit of skill might come in when you are selecting games or analyzing stats, but at the end of the day, no matter how good your analysis is, if luck does not favor you, you are still going to lose that bet..
Betting is not like trading where strategy and risk management can give you an edge, here, even the most sure games can flop for no logical reason.. So for me, luck plays the bigger role..

That's luck indeed if it's the latter.

Scoring or some twists that happens in a game, that's where luck comes in and if it's in basketball. Like having a tough shot that will secure our props and moneyline's or with a spread.

And that's why it depends to what kind of luck and I agree that it plays sort of a role but it's not entirely the whole thing needed for someone to win there.

It's hard to say which one plays the bigger role in sports betting because I've seen football matches where a very well structured team couldn't win because of a bad luck and I've also seen matches where bad structured team could win because of extreme luck.
I would still say that skills and analytical thinking matter the most in sports betting but I want to highlight that this doesn't mean that you'll automatically win sports bet. The weather, the motivation of the team, the well-being of players, where they play the match (home or away), everything plays the role. You never know when the top player of the team gets a serious trauma or a red card but I would still say that skills matter the most. You might have a few unlucky events but not many lucky events without skills.

If you want to bet on sports, your skill will definitely come in handy because if you have a good idea of the team players and their formations, then you will definitely be ahead of the house. But here it should be kept in mind that luck plays a very big role in betting. To be clear, it depends mostly on luck because at any time something unexpected can happen. The team you bet on or the player you bet on based on your observations may not give the expected result in the game.

The main thing here is that your skill can definitely help you win but it cannot ensure your persistence. Because you are betting your money on a place that is not in your control or you cannot make a fair prediction of what can happen here, you can only guess.

Luck may decide immediately and in just a fraction of the time it takes us to bet, but over time, skill determines who stays ahead and who loses everything to impulse. Skilled bettors often rely on data analysis, probability models, and deep knowledge of the sport to minimize risk and identify value bets. The difference lies not in controlling outcomes but in managing uncertainty, pure luck will definitely distract a gambler's mind and don't forget that to differentiate a casual gambler from a skilled gambler, it takes an additional element of skill to maintain

Well, it is very easy to assume that skill is the paramount criteria that determines wins when it comes to sports betting, but after I've given your question a critical thinking, I decided that it's actually luck that does have the final say across all gambling games including sports betting.

Why I think luck is the major determinant of who wins in sports betting is because, even after applying all the skills involved with betting, the bettor still need to be lucky to end up winning the bet, else, he or she will still end up losing...
This is why I said that it is always luck that has the final say across all gambling games which includes slot, casino and sports betting games..

And besides, sports betting isnt a skill based game, sports betting is knowledge based, and this is because becoming a sports bettor doesn't require skill, it requires knowledge, which is what you know about the sports, those who require skill are those who play the match like the footballers themselves..

Sports betting really lives in that space where both skill and luck constantly fight for control short term results might look like pure luck because one wrong pass or a referee’s mistake can destroy even the smartest bet but in the long run the bettors who survive and profit consistently are almost always the ones who rely on skill discipline and analysis luck might decide a game but skill decides the journey.

The casual gambler usually bets with emotion following favorite teams or gut feelings while skilled bettors look for value they study statistics injury reports weather conditions and historical performance they also understand how odds work and how to find small percentage advantages those little edges may not show instant wins but they add up over time that’s what separates professionals from dreamers. Still luck never disappears it hides behind every goal missed and every unexpected turn in a match the best bettors accept this and build systems that respect randomness instead of fighting it they use bankroll management to protect themselves from streaks of bad luck they bet small consistent amounts knowing that probability only reveals its fairness over time not in a single night.

When you place a bet you have no idea of the outcome and all you do is to hope for your games to play well, in this situation do you call it? i do feel it is luck, gambling based on luck, some people say that they have gambling skills an the first thing that comes into my mind is how does gambling and skill work together, the only skill there is risk management, managing your bankroll and begin discipline. But i realized that there are actually some games in gambling that has some percentage of skill as well, like blackjack, using some level of mathematical skill a player can reduce the house edge, how ever the random shuffling of the cards means that luck remains the core component in the game.
so in my point of view i feel that luck plays a bigger role in not just sport betting but any other type of betting too.

I agree with you, skill makes it possible for a gambler to always have an edge, but the possibility of having control over the outcome of their bets is not in their place to decide but in hands of luck. Definitely there's difference between someone who is only playing without having a skill on the game they are playing (if it's a skill based) compare to someone that has a better knowledge of the game, the person that has a good knowledge stands a better chance to win more than who only depends on luck, but overall, both of them still needs luck, right?

In sports betting, no matter how skilled you are, you only have the opportunity to increase the probability of guessing an outcome.
But it is not mathematics or system that you can guess the result through skills or calculations.
In gambling it's generally just a matter of luck, you can be as skilled as you want, but unexpected events also happen in sport and let me tell you, they also happen more often than other games of chance.
If you talk about skills you compare it to a job and that's not the case. At work you are skilled and through your skill you earn, in gambling you are skilled at doing calculations but the result does not depend on you or rather it does not depend only on you.

Both matter, but skill gives long-term edge while luck decides short-term outcomes. Good bettors study stats, line movement, and team form not just vibes. Over time, skill helps reduce variance, but you’ll always need some luck to win big.

Do you rely more on data or gut feeling when picking bets?

Yes, I understand what you mean. It's true that luck can't be ignored in sports betting, even the best analysis can be thwarted by unexpected moments on the field. But I believe that's where skill truly comes into play. Skill doesn't eliminate luck, but it can help minimize its negative effects in the long run. In many cases, those with strong analytical skills, disciplined risk management, and the ability to objectively read game dynamics tend to have more consistent results than those who rely solely on gut feelings. So, I agree that luck plays a significant role in every game, but skill determines how prepared we are to face those uncertainties. Ultimately, sports betting is a combination of strategy and chance, and those who understand both will survive longer.

That is actually very true, no matter how good a person can be at analyzing games or making bet predictions, sports bet will always involve a big element of luck. You can study the games, teams, look at stats, and make smart guesses and predictions, but at the end of the day, anything can happen in sports, injuries, weather, or even a single mistake can turn the game upside down and the prediction won’t go as expected, so winning a games it self is actually about luck.

No matter how much you analyze a match, for example, the outcome will still be uncertain. Injuries can occur, the favorite team may "stumble" on its favoritism. Even if all the data points to a winner, luck will prevail. Think about horse racing; there's always a horse and jockey who wins the most, but who can guarantee they'll win? In the end, it's all about luck when betting on the winner...

In sport betting, we needed to have something more advanced and helpful at the same time for us to be able to proof we are aware of what we are doing and not that we are just only gambling for nothing sake, sport betting comes with luck sometimes, but we must definitely know how they are being played and also get familiar with some of their activities as we are into gambling playing sport bets.

I agree with your opinion. Skill can certainly help increase your chances of winning, but it doesn't guarantee victory. Many unexpected things can happen on the field, and we never know what those possibilities are. I also often see big teams lose to weaker teams, and this usually happens because they make accidental blunders or unnecessary mistakes that ultimately have fatal consequences.

Given this, it still means that winning still depends on luck, and luck is still important in gambling. Therefore, regardless of the type of gambling, limits must still be applied.

40 percent skill and 60 percent luck, to me I think its the other way around when it comes to sports betting, but casino games on the other hand is quite different because the house edge decreases the chances of the gambler to win, so its ideal to say that it involves 40 percent skill and 60 percent luck. Sports betting is the opposite of this because doing your analysis improves or gives you more chances of winning

Exactly, there's no assurance that heavy favorite will take the win, like with your example there are factors that may affect the outcome of the game, those unforeseen accident and injuries can lead the team or the player/ fighter to lose the match, though by knowledge and skills there's edge that you can use, the more you identify the potential the better chance that you may win, but still, you are in this gambling industry and risk is always present no matter what or how good you are.

I do agree that your opinion is quite realistic. Experience can assist a player have an idea of how a game is going to develop but it never provides a remedy of the result. There is always something that can happen with gambling. This is what makes it exciting, but at the same time dangerous to do. In this situation, where the player has a firm idea of not always winning, he or she is able to retain the pressure.

Gambling limits do not all exist as rules. They are indicative of the fact that every individual is a risk taker. Definitely demarcated boundaries ensure that gambling is not a stressful game. It is most effectively spent in this manner without going out of control.

Skills increase your chance, but we still need luck to win the prize. Therefore, we need the two, as they both play an important role in gambling and should work together. That’s why, even if you’ve been gambling for many years, you can’t expect to win consistently, as luck doesn’t always favor you.

This shows that having skills alone is not enough. Perhaps there is no need to raise an argument about this because we know, and based on our experience, we can tell that even betting on the favorite team still loses despite gaining the high odds of winning.

When even weak teams often win against any strong team, there is no chance to put skill ahead alone. We cannot underestimate skill, sometimes skill can give a gambler an advantage in a difficult match. To be specific, I will try to put both skill and luck ahead in sports betting. But to me luck is very important in any bet, so I definitely want to give priority to luck. Even in a match where you win, you have to lose because you don't have luck, which is why I will give the most importance to luck and only then put skill ahead.

if we are measuring the chances of winning in gambling by percentage I don't think that the percent of a skill will it be up to 40 percent you said here, because I've seen some people who does not have any basic idea of gambling but for their first time to participate in gambling they make a reasonable amount of winning which is someone who has been participating in gambathing has not recorded such amount of winning in gambling which I know very well, so for we  to evaluate it very well, I will say skill in the gambling will be given a 20% why luck in gambling should be given 80%, because most of the people who wins in gambling, win base on luck not by skills

The point is that luck is much more important, right? Yes, and I think we all know and realize that, especially if you are a true gambler. Even sometimes, even if we bet without involving skills, it doesn't mean it's impossible to win. I've tried it before when I was still very new to sports betting, where I chose a team randomly because I didn't know the strengths of each team that would compete, but it turned out I managed to win, that means it's true that luck is much more important.

If it's skill that helps you to win, just be sincere to me, how many times have you made huge profits with your skill from gambling. It's easier to say than done. Gambling is not by experience because it's impossible for you to be experienced in gambling no matter how many years that you have been gambling. Luck is the most important thing in anything called gambling.

Luck is indeed an important thing, and it also depends on what you are playing, If you play slots then completely it will depend on how much you bet,
how many spins and It will also be determined by the system.

But if you play poker your skill playing cards, predicting what cards other players are holding and what cards will come out, it's a skill that not everyone knows.
Because some professional poker players learn it, and they know how the cards will come out.

So that experience is also important to make you stronger in psychology and know how the game works, and of course luck will always be something that no one can avoid.

At the end of the day, we're just throwing around numbers here. But if you want to calculate it, then you'll have to expand your sample size further. A 10 cases of beginner's luck is possible, but it's certainly too small to generalize it for 1000 players. Using feeling to generalize the general rule isn't wise either, considering our experience is limited. Heck, you can probably find many people who says the opposite thing just on this thread alone.

When it comes to luck, no matter how much research you do, strange things will happen on the field, sudden injuries, crazy weather, the referee making a bad call. This randomness or suddenness matters here. One night of luck is enough to win or lose a bet.

But when it comes to strategy, it takes skill to survive in the world of gambling for years! Analyzing stats, watching players' form, understanding betting margins, and most importantly, maintaining discipline, these are the things that increase your winning edge. Experienced players invest money in analysis, so it doesn't just happen by chance.

So, you're absolutely right. If you're serious, play every day, and see it as an investment rather than a bet, then strategy is a big factor.

But remember, if you're not good at it, even your best skill-based pick can lose. It's a roller coaster ride of betting, isn't it?

You don't seem to be overthinking, you are correct to ask such question.
Sport betting requires both skill and luck, though their influence is not equal.
Skill is important in analyzing teams, stats of players, injuries, and odds. Bettors with skill can be more informed with their predictions and manage risk better than ordinary ones.
Luck, anyway, still happen to determine short-term outcomes as no one can predict the future perfectly, events not planned for can change everything.
In short: sports betting requires skill, yet luck is still major factor, skill increase your odds, it won't remove or cancel chance

I don't ignore the role of analytical skills. I know it has a role, it sometimes can have a very important role. But the luck factor is real, we must admit it. Dude, please read again my previous post.  ;)

For the long term bet or a tournament, we must have a certain strategy. It isn't only about the analysis. Sure, we can't only rely on the luck because there will be no luck if we do it in a random way (improper way). Betting isn't the same as playing slots or dice, betting requires a certain skill of analysis although it isn't the only factor to determine the win.

Analysing skill does some of the job, while luck handles the other. In terms of horse racing, I don't even consider it to be something which gets a repeated win; it happens, but it's an animal we are talking about here. They are more unpredictable than the football and basketball games which we watch and place our bets on; a horse can just be provoked, or something can just happen to it, just like humans also get injured, and it ends up coming out in the last position instead of the regular first it was known for before picking it for a bet.

In modern days sports or games such as football, basketball, etc, a lot of scenarios are being surrounded in the outcome of most of the games or matches especially now that match fixing is on the increase and in such cases you don’t know what’s agreed upon because most of the outcomes have already been pre determined even before kick offs. Some players fake injuries and most intentionally comit a serious foul so they can get a red or yellow card booking. In this kind of situation you only need to be lucky enough to scale through. But other than just being lucky with your bet winning, there’s still a little bit of skill needed for you to critically analyze team performance and strength.

You will be lucky when you know how to predict,you can just come and start pointing and you think you can win by luck,skill is always the best ,you must have the skill before luck can follow you.

You are right that skill increases the chances of winning. Many gamblers think that luck mostly influences the winning or losing but as your skill increases your chances of winning also increase. Although it is not possible to determine the percentage of skill and luck in most cases, in my opinion the percentage of skill should be higher because when betting on sports, the better team has a higher chance of winning but if the teams are almost equal in strength then you have to guess and take risks along with the statistics while betting. In such matches, luck influences the winning more. Sometimes even the better team loses to the weaker team so you have to rely on luck most of the time.

As sport betting gambling, I think skill have big influence how to increasing chance for winning not only luckiness depend only, I know many gamble mindset when start betting or gambling luckiness is most influence than skill.
If you lack skill make decreasing chance for winning but will helpful when you have skill, such as at sport betting if you don't have skill to analyst about team performance before betting will make less your chance for winning.

Indeed many out expectation happening but skill increasing chance or opportunity for winning at gambling, not always dominance with luckiness and for gambler must increasing your skill and knowledge exactly if you are as sport betting gambler.

In sports betting I would prefer both because skill as well as luck is dependent on it. Suppose you have the most knowledge and skills about the game. So can you win by betting on all the games? It's never possible. Winning here will definitely require skill as well as luck. But skill has many advantages and the odds of winning bets are about 70% higher. Because as seen in sports betting, good teams lose with many weak teams. It is very natural and does not require much reasoning to explain it. So we have to keep an eye on all aspects and bet on sports accordingly.

Without any skill or knowledge about a sport, you can still win the bet.

With all the knowledge that we can acquire about a sport still can't beat the odds and keep winning forever.

End of the argument.

Your skill will always make way for you even when luck is not available. We should always go for the skill and that is what make you different from others that are in the same field with you. Those that have a good skill in some games would do better in a long time interval than someone that is hoping on luck to be profitable as gamblers. Do all the research you need to do that will help you increase the chances of you winning.

Match fixing. Hmmm. But only a few know the results. Maybe only those who are in the circle of high rollers, the big bettors, those who have an agenda to ensure their winning chance.

But in fact, it is true that many will just play using luck. Well, doing analysis in sports betting is such a long process, and I think a gambler would just pick the favorite with added spreads to avoid that kind of trouble. Still, I believe that we are increasing our chances if we do our homework. If we are serious about trying to win, it's better if we put some effort into it.

I agree with what you said, it like a trained personnel have far different results from less trained personnel in working or completing important and urgent work. In this realm, there are many opportunities and possibilities, but we have to be good at reading and know where the game are going.

But it also doesn't necessarily come with its own ups and downs, it still comes along the way with varying needs, especially if we relate to our emotions both when we win and when we suffer defeat. There is no war story without bullet ammunition and you can win only using your bare hands.

Does that mean luck is unimportant? I see your conclusion pointing in that direction, but in gambling, luck is far more important. One example is the frequent defeat of top-tier teams by weaker teams, especially in sports like soccer.

The reason is because many unexpected events can occur on the field, leading to the defeat of a stronger team.

This means that while skill and knowledge are useful and helpful, they don't guarantee victory, especially in the long run. This means that luck is still important. In my opinion, sports betting is a combination of skill and luck.

Luck trumps skill when it comes to gambling. What skills does one need to bet on something whose outcome depends on the decision or determination of others? I don't think there's any. Besides the players, there are match officials for can either make or mar games. One can analyze games but that's where it all ends. Anything can happen on the field of play that can instantly change the rhythm of a game.

As for those who bet on individual players to score first, or be the first to take a free-kick or be the first to jump into the field or be the first to do whatever, what the heck is all that? It's too much pressure on oneself for a game one should just relax and enjoy and whose outcome depends mostly on luck.

The possession of knowledge and statistics is a key factor in sports betting. Besides this, you need a good skillset of technical analysis and analytical thinking, with a good intuition too. If you have all of these like all in one (AIO) service, then your chances of succeeding in sports betting are extremely high. Btw nothing can deny the existence of luck here because sometimes even when every statistic and probability tells you to bet on one team, the opposite happens and the opponent team wins despite the fact that they had an extremely low chance.
To my mind, most of the time you'll win with skills in sports betting because I've made a decent profit over a year when I was actively betting.

I believe more in luck. I dont think that there is even such thing as skill in sports betting. I would rather say it is being familiar with teams and players, than really have something that can be improved or gained. Making correct predictions is something that can not be mastered. The outcome of a game or competition between someone has zero influence from the gambler. I have tested that many times already. I have good knowledge in UFC, but I cant make 100% correct predictions.

Both of them works together but for you to be a good gambler you must be good in predictions and for you to be a winner you must be lucky it doesn't means someone who don't know anything about football can I just be lucky no,if you don't know what betting is you can't actually be lucky in it ,if 10 games is in one slip you can't get 8or 9 right ,but someone who knows about predictions can

Both skills and luck is important in sports betting. Skills in betting is needed to predict decisively, studying statistics and knowing the most possible outcome based on such calculations. But luck plays a major role in this because after all calculations, there is every possibility that the game could still go south.

The best approach to betting is not complicating your bets with too many games and weird options but simple achievable options.
In all, both skills and luck is vital in sports betting to achieve winnings.

In any other gambling except sports betting, luck is more important if the gambling is fair but in sports betting you must research the teams before placing a bet. In sports betting, gamblers are advised to analyze the past performance and capabilities of the teams they are betting for or against. Analysis of past performance plays an important role in sports betting. Yes, anything can happen in the game, analysis may not always be correct, but analysis increases the chances of winning because in most cases, stronger teams than the opponent win and if someone bets accordingly, then the chances of winning are also higher.

Both are needed especially if you are conservative in terms of achieving profits, timing is important so if you able to predict the outcome you might stop on time to cashout your profits, as even  how goood your knowledge if you don't have that self-will to quit in a timely manner that chance may skip and you may lose back your profits, similar to what you said, both luck and knowledge are important as even how good your analysis there's always upset that can happen.

My opinion is that skill is more important because it's something we can and do influence, while luck is something we can't improve. Therefore, working on skill is something we must constantly do if we want to be more professional than other players. Professionals deserve to win more, but they too sometimes have long losing streaks, which not everyone can withstand. In any case, there are poker players who have repeatedly proven that skill can help them win big, which further confirms that luck can be secondary.

It is good to know a lot about the sport you arę betting on but it would be silly to assume that those who are setting the odds do not know what they are doing. Maybe you are better than them but most likely you are not. In that case your win ratio should match the odds. If you are better my hats of to you.

Both play a role, but skill decides how long you can stay profitable. Luck might win you a bet, but skill in analyzing odds, bankroll, and timing keeps you ahead over time.

How much of your betting results do you think comes from pure analysis vs. luck swings?

If you don't have the mentality to stop in time, the chances of winning also become slim, there is no guarantee of luck, and the result always depends on luck. Just predicting through deep research that your victory is never a sure thing, it will only increase the probability, but it only depends on uncertainty. So when you can stop at the right time, then it is actually responsible. Due to overconfidence or greed, many times people take more and more risks even when there is profit, and this is the biggest wrong decision.