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I have seen some users make comments to same thread as if they are responding to the thread for the first time, oblivious (or deliberately ignored) to the fact that they have already responded earlier.

(If it isn't obvious, let me clarify that these comments are not responses to other comments).

Should such subsequent comments be considered as spam? I hope I am clear on what I am asking.

I quite understand this and I've seen many of them in the past. It's nonsense, to say the least, as a direct reply to the main OP of the thread should be once, other replies should be to the subsequent relies by the OP or other users communicating on that thread.

For this, I don't see a right thinking person that would see it short of spam, for it's a needless repetition. Regardless of how quality and informative the person is, I think that it is a spam. If at all you've posted there and wanted to add a post next time, why not use the *edit*?

I know what you mean and I see it often on the forum. Now we can guess whether these members forgot that they even posted in a topic and are commenting again as if it was their first time, or whether they just care to write one more post thinking that no one will notice. By the way, for those who don't know, every topic you've posted in is tagged so there shouldn't be any confusion about it.

As for the question of whether it's spam or not, I would say it is, but if you're going to report such posts then you have to put a link to the first post in the report and hope that the moderator will take into account that the member is repeating the same thing multiple times.

If the said person is actually saying the same thing, then I consider it as a spam, and if he is contradicting what he said earlier, then I think that such fellow is confused, or is either trying to complete his post quota since he doesn't know what to say or where to post different thing again at that particular time.
I may be wrong but repeating the same thing on a particular post shows that such person doesn't know what to say again.

Please, it would be better if you bring such users spam up with links to their posts on the threads. If they do not quote but reply to a thread that they have posted before as if that is the first time they are posting on the thread, that is spam. If such person is in a campaign, they should be reported to the campaign manager. Also reporting them to moderators because they are spammers.

A topic creator can be exceptional. He could be reading what people are posting and not just decide to quote them but just post in relation to what people have posted.

Yes on a regular ground it's actually spam but you also have to understand the fact that spams are handled differently across boards on the forum. For example such a post in the technical board will get deleted ASAP but that same kind of post if reported in the gambling board will be left unhanldled by the admins because they know it's spam but it's not really deeply moderated like other boards.

Some boards are known for spam so you shouldn't waste your time reporting but for more serious boards don't hesitate to report.

Most of the times it’s deliberate action especially when it has same response without any changes but if it has little difference it could be that one doesn’t recognize that they have responded to the post earlier but I’m still not convinced that people do or know what they are doing.

Everyone does what they do for a reason, and sure if you noticed such action repeatedly from a particular user it’s spam and possibly report to moderator, there is no coincidence in some action but could be for few of them.

I understand what you meant and it is a long lasting behaviour of spammers in the forum. This happens especially in spam threads that have numerous pages and the people in such behaviour are the low quality posters spamming to complete the signature quota.
I can say that sometimes, repeating yourself could happen unaware in a thread, but during typing, you will surely remember that you have contributed to the thread before, unless the person is suffering dementia.

Those who do the above think that nobody notices them, and truly it is difficult to notice them because reputable users will not engage in such an act. Funny enough I have read someone contradict himself in same thread, forgetting that he already supported the other side of the debate in the previous page. It is simply all about money and not the quality of contribution,

 It's clearly spam. Although there are times when someone wants to make a reply and maybe due to network issues, the post sends twice  and sometimes it's hard to delete the other that has been sent, so instead of leaving the extra, one has to edit and make it obvious the other one was a mistake but there are some who leave it that way. I've seen such things happen and not to start pointing fingers but it usually is seen from newbies or trolls.

Asides from being spamming to fulfill signature qauter I don't think there is any other reason why some members will not engage in constructive posting habits, between the best way to deal with such repeatedly spam posts is to report them to moderators to get them deleted, if their become persistent in such Spam post's bursting style, you place them on ignore list.

If you see the same comment repeatedly, of course you can report it, and you can also report it to the moderator. Since you want to be sure about it and if you see the same comment repeatedly, you can post it with a link. And it would be better to know directly from the user, that's why it is quite reasonable to create a separate topic with a link.

Some threads will be like that. After crossing page 5 on a spammy board, the regurgitant material is no longer reading worthy.

Hence I fulfill my signature quota and dont visit those threads anymore. When I do this, I check replies to my older post by using the "New" button next to the link under "Show new replies to your posts." - that way I can generate conversations with other users and not be completely spam.

If you feel something is completely offtopic, report it as offtopic and leave it. You cannot clean up this forum on your own but you can do your part by reporting and ignoring.

Good question, OP. It would be interesting to count how many times the same users respond in such threads, even if they pretend to quote someone. Most of their responses sound fairly similar and share the same meaning as everyone else who posts in megathreads. I think everyone understands perfectly well what kind of threads these are, where buying and selling are discussed. The same can be said about the topics in the gambling section: the authors' themes are sometimes so similar that many can repeat the same point of their post, forgetting where and when it was originally written.

If the thread is specifically created to report fraud, important information, with a special format for members who post repeatedly, it is not spam, but if the thread is intended only as a question to ask, where the person who created the topic has got the answer to the question, then other members come who don't read it and then comment or make repeated posts or irrelevant posts, including Spam.

That's what members often remind topic creators of, after a full discussion of two page comments they are advised to lock the topic to avoid spam, that's a tough challenge in every forum or other social media. Spam is a challenge that never ends and never ends, one delete comes another, Spam is like cleaning the leaves under a tree, with a broom the other leaves fall over and over again.

If the person reply exactly the same thing then it is a spam however if the person made a particular point about the thread or topic and maybe some days later comes again and make a totally different point from the first one he made and he or she didn't counter his or her earlier post can we still call that spam?
Some set of people actually do this on purpose they actually talk about a particular thing in a thread and some days later comes to the same thread and write same thing.
If a person replied to a thread and then replied to someone in that same thread I don't see that as spam as long as the person is quoting another person and writing something different however if the person quote someone in a thread and then quote another with the same write up or statement then is eventually a spam.

It depends on the topic. If the topic is an event, then he can provide an update, and I don't think it will constitute spam, but if it's a general discussion. He already provided his input, then adding more that is not different from all the responses from other members can be considered spam, even quoting other members but replying the same response is not good.

An OP can post the same thing, like others have written.   However, another person who replies with the same information can be reported.   They are not providing any new value to the conversation - they just feel their content is more worthy of being read or they are trying to bury a previous post.  :/

Most of the time, they're spamming because I find it hard to believe that a person can reply to a topic and forget that they have replied to that particular topic. This can only happen if it's an old thread, and even at that, there is an indication of topics you've replied to, so it's difficult to make such a mistake. An exception can be if the user didn't realise that he had posted the reply before due to a poor network, so he posts it again, but that is a very rare exception. I know this because it has happened to me. There were times I made a post and it posted twice, and there was a time I clicked post and felt it had already posted, but it didn't.
Like I said, these are very few exceptions that happen once in a while

If you consider those posts as spam or low contributions, you can report them to moderators with link to their similar previous posts.

There is chance that the poster makes similar posts but answering to different members in that thread. It can make you post report more complicated and I am unsure that moderators will agree with your reports. Especially if their posts are not same word by word.

You can try with your post reporting and will know how moderators handle such posts.

I have seen this happen a lot in mega threads. You could report such posts, in my case I usually add a note in the report suggesting that the thread be locked. We have seen cases where alt accounts fake conversation and reply themselves in a thread so it’s not shocking that there are users who spam topics just to meet up post quota.

Who has time for checking that when you are in the middle of filling up the signatire campaign quota, deadline is close and you lack xyz posts?

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@OP In this scenario that you just explained, its a classic case if shitposting that should be reported.

Left for me I understand what you are saying. For instance when a users first post falls in the last page of the thread but later same user embark to reply the Op or quoting other users whose post has existed before their last post like they have not posted on the thread before.
If this is done internationally, it should be regarded as spam but how do you know when it was done international? Because at times the thread might be too lengthy and when it keep trending, the same user might not be able to keep track of their interaction with the thread.

I am not concluding but if such incident occurs in threads with very users engagements then it should be expected that such user should be able to track their compliance with the thread otherwise will be spam.
To help this kind of post spam is to avoid old and popular threads with many pages unless you can afford to keep thread so as to avoid relative spam posts.

Though I can't recall exactly, I have seen this type of reply in a lot of threads. Users replying seem to be the first reply, but he/she already replied previously. And also some users even copy and paste the same reply in different threads as well. So no doubts, it's clearly spam. But mods might consider them as soft spam, and your report would be unhanded in such a case. Most of them are signature participants, and hopefully managers care about these types of posts during the weekly count.

However, a user could reply to multiple threads if there is engagement. Second or more replies should be based on engagement on the thread. Like, I want to reply to a specific quote, and then I can engage multiple times. Or simply I can reply with a couple of quotes in a single reply. Otherwise all the replies should be considered spam.

If someone is posting in the same thread on the two different occasions without even realising that they already shared their opinion on the matter and no one yet engaged with that comment then it is clearly spam because one can't have two different view on the same matter.

That will be a tedious work to do imo... Even the normal reporting hasn't been easy, let alone reporting repeated ideas.

Have you also reason it in this way, after responding to an active thread not mega, maybe a more technical discussion and after replying to a specific quote or directly to the original poster, a day passes and you come across that same thread where another used a dissatisfactory comment that needs to be corrected or needed to be thrown more light, do you consider yourself responding to the user back in the thread as spam?

There are posting behaviors we did as newbies, after spending time in the forum that should be discontinued. Lately, I only respond in new discussions, within page 1-5 both also in the gambling section.

I think it’s pretty simple. If you notice that the user already posted in that thread and the new post is the same or very similar to their previous post of that thread, just report it to the moderator and let moderator decide whether to delete the similar post or not. Just make sure to include the links in your report.

I'm not sure if post merging can be applied in this kind of issue. I guess it really depends on the content of the post it I can be merge..

No that is not spam, that is quality posting though. But responding to the first post twice is what was discussed here and clearly it is spam since the user who is replying doesn't even bother checking the symbol while clicking the thread which will clearly show whether you posted here already or not yet.

I don't think there is any rule here in this forum that demands that one does not respond to a thread he has already commented on before. The only issue lies in how he goes about it 

Dropping exactly thesame comment that was obviously made earlier, maybe with the hope that no one would notice is wrong, very wrong and should be reported if seen.

A user might find a certain thread interesting and might want to follow up the discussions there. He can always respond to a reply that requires him coming in as long as the reply is a totally different message from what he has dropped earlier. If not, he can just edit than dropping duplicates and repetitive comments to increase his post count. That is cheating.

When I do that in my service threads, it's usually because I have an update and the topic has been pushed back to page 2.

It would be nice if we could merge our posts together though, but that would destroy permalinks, which are heavily used in service threads, so I don't like that idea and would probably only use that for bumps.

It is needless to reply to a thread you once had made a reply to. Maybe you can do that in edit or if the need arises that you were quoted by a poster then you can reply to that quote while making your contribution and opinion count as a member but just replying to the same thread without such can be seen as a spam. But OP should understand that some thread varies as there can be replies to update which would attract members to also comment on it and in some cases, members do not quite reply to that update, they just go straight to reply the update and it would look like they are spamming because they already made comments on the thread earlier before that update which was made on the thread.

It's turning to norms if it doesn't handle adequately, it's not that some of us have not come across of such "we do" but the issue is that nobody cares...That's a spam...for me if you wants to respond to same thread you have responded or replied before, look for someone suggestions you understand the point of view and quote" neither you're against he or her suggestion or you support by adding your on points of view to what you have quoted....but some of us will replicate what they have already written and it's not making sense in a such way.. a subsequent comments the thread, is not a spam if the person is quoting other comments after some have posted..

That's what normal people do, you got into a thread you have posted earlier, what you should be doing is following up discussion or responding to someone that quote you which you disagree on his point of view on a particular subject.

Editing a post looks more mature, but the problem is that their are some members that may have already red what you have said earlier, but they might not be aware that your post was edited if they don't pay close attention to it, that's just the problem of editing post, if not it's the best, if you feels like you have more things to add up to what you said earlier.

I totally agree with your opinion. In as much we can't prove if the post was deliberate, we can only attempt to judge according to the posts context of that user.
It'll be clear to be called spam if they're alike but will be skeptic if they're misaligned.
We should also be concious and try to be skeptic, take time and scroll through the thread if you're not convinced.
This advise will help your reputation because when you'll be convicted for spam. You also can not convince the community that you didn't realize that you've written there before.

Personally,I'm learning everyday on this forum most especially on the rules,when I joined this forum discussions related to spam were a bit confusing,but now I've come to understand what spam on this forum is all about.Just like everyone has said earlier,that a topic commented by a user whose acting like he has never commented on that topic is a spam post,and I was about asking about a quote and @Findingnemo has given a reply for that.Meaning I can give correction in quote on a wrong post that's misleading on a thread that I've commented earlier and it would be considered a quality post.

Those who have said that it's not spam if a user is writing something different or adding more points about the topic being discussed need to understand that the proper way to add more points into what you said earlier or provide another point of view is to quote yourself, and specify what you are doing, because it's not normal to write a second response in a thread where you had written a response to the OP earlier without specifying and clarifying your action.

It might not be considered spam if the person isn't repeating what he said earlier, but it's not an appropriate way of adding more points into your earlier post, or even trying to add another point of view, because you should either edit your earlier post and add it, or simply quote yourself like how you quote others and respond to them in a thread, and write your response below your own quote say that you are adding these points or you also think this way, etc.

There is no need for that, they can always edit their post if they want to add something other than what they said earlier, unless they want to increase their post number by +1. Spam is subjective, though.

I could remember that something like this was once raised by a member on this same Meta, that if there should be limit to the number of page a thread could reach or something like that, I think the gambling section were used as a subject matter in consideration that time, especially the mega threads, but at last, I think members were able to convinced that there could always be a need for such, especially on dedicated threads whereby the discussions continues with time.

People forget, so I guess a repeated comment in a specific thread or a post to a certain limit or after a extended period of time should be acceptable. I mean not all users checks all the previous pages, for example from page 1-10, to see whether they previously commented or not. But when it's a recent topic and there are barely any pages, like 1-3, we should be cautions, keep our eyes open. But if it's a 3 months old topic, I guess I might not remember. Lastly, whether it's spam or not, I agree, we shouldn't repeat such actions knowingly. 

Again I can be wrong though. So CMIIW.

Btw, what do you mean by the bolded text? I didn't understand it.  :)

I usually would not respond, because I am not in the habit of making someone look bad or make someone else's day bad. If they are spamming for signature campaign quota, their bad, but this is a forum after all and everyone here is free to vent out after a hard day.

Still if it is offtopic, I encourage the use of the "Report" button instead of a snide remark.

While we are condemning users for spamming a thread by making repeated comments, do we care if they know that they have made a reply on that thread previously? it's not everyone that can capture a thread that they have made a reply before that is why it is good to check the small yellow icon inside the left edge box of a thread. I believe that there are users that don't know that the yellow sign in the box indicates a thread that they have made a reply previously. On my own, i don't comment twice in a thread except am responding to someone that quoted me or am making a different point from the one i made initially.

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