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So Trump claims he “doesn’t know” CZ, the same guy he pardoned after pleading guilty for money-laundering violations tied to Binance. That’s a bit hard to believe, right? It’s starting to look like another case of him trying to dodge responsibility when things get messy.

I’m not saying I hate the guy, but come on, how do you pardon someone you supposedly “don’t know”? Either he’s lying again, or someone in his circle is doing deals he’s pretending not to notice.

Do you think this is just politics as usual, or is it something deeper tied to his crypto interests?
https://cryptonews.com/news/trump-says-he-doesnt-know-cz-despite-pardoning-him-brushes-off-questions-on-binance-ties/

It is very possible Trump may not know CZ.

Do not get me wrong, Trump knows him but in a way they might have businesses together. When Trump shit tokens (Trump and Melania meme coins) where lauched, I saw the coin listed almost immediately on all the exchanges that I know. In fact, Trump coin can be used on Stake.com and Stake.us for deposit and withdraw.

I do not know why almost all crypto businesses are accepting these shitcoins than the exchanges see it as a means to make more money and Trump is very influential for now because it is the United States president.

I think it was CZ that wanted favour from Trump by listing all his tokens but not only Binance that did so, all the exchanges that I know all listed Trump, Melania, USD1 and WLFI.

I am neither a fan of Trump nor CZ, but I just give such opinion the way I think it is in reality.

No, its not possible.  :)

Where I come from, only the King (who has some powers, limited as they may be) can pardon deathrow inmates. It happens on rare occassion. Believe me, pardons come from the top all the time without anyone knowing anyone intimately.

But believe me, this pardon comes with strings attached. Getting to know each other probably wasn't one of the strings.

It's crypto. I send Bitcoin and receive from people I hardly know online. Used to earn for years from an anonymous source who paid me through a third party.

Trump is a bring paper and sign guy, don't be surprised that CZ pardon was orchestrated by his cycle that are enriching their self because he knows nothing about Bitcoin. The same filthy mouth he was using to say bad things about Bitcoin in his first time is the same strategy he used to win back Bitcoin community and they all fell for it, typical political man I must say, this one too isn't new, you can see every one is licking his feet just to get favoura from him.

How fast he went silent on Bitcoin reserve, look at the shitcoins his family member have all gave to everyone and I'm surprised people are using their hard earn money to buy a coin that 80% of its supply is been controlled by the cycle, such a shame crypto is becoming/became.

His statement clearly shows that he knows him. It’s impossible to pardon someone facing serious charges and fined billions, then claim you don’t even know the person. That alone suggests there’s some kind of connection or under-the-table deal between him and CZ.

Trump’s obsession with power is obvious , he acts like he’s the most powerful man in the world, making bold decisions without caring about the impact on others. So it’s hard to believe that he really doesn’t know him.

I don't think Trump and CZ are crypto scammer buddies but Trump's policies are surely intended towards making crypto more mainstream and CZ might have been abandoned due to the changing focus on crypto regulations.
Also, Pardoning is not individually handled by the President itself. There's a dedicated team that looks at pardoning depending and in case of US its the Office of the Pardon Attorney.
They work under the Attorney General, who in this case is a fully political appointment done by the President himself.
So, it could be either or both. The Office of Pardon Attorney could have drafted the names of people who should be pardoned and the ones that would benefit the US and or the US Government and the Attorney General (Pamela Bondi) might have just signed it and so did Trump. But it could also have been initiated by Pamela Bondi or Trump himself.

Its possible that he didn't know CZ personally, but he have knowledge that CZ is big figure on crypto industry.

This is maybe the reason on why Trump pardon him to leave a statement to crypto users that he's not joking around when he say that he want to became friendly with this industry.

There are notable crypto figures has been pardoned by Trump so don't get surprised about these situation since maybe this is the way of Trump to catch the attention of million voters which use crypto.

It is. Trump doesn't have to know CZ, or he might only know CZ as we know him, somebody influential in the crypto business. But his business partners or associates and possibly family members surely know CZ. Otherwise, how could certain deals be struck between their business and personal interests? How could Binance help develop the Trump family's stablecoin without that connection? But it doesn't have to be Donald himself. It's even possible he doesn't know what a meme coin is despite having one.

I don't think this belongs to Bitcoin discussion board but more to politics and society one.
Anyway I would simply add it to the long list of lies he now tells on a daily basis.

CZ being the richest int he crypto world as per this list https://www.bankrate.com/investing/richest-crypto-billionaires/

its impossible Trump does not know him when during his campaign he promise to bring positive news in the crypto market.

pardons are not meant for just best friends. you are not suppose to know someone to the closeness of a best friend as that would be favouritism to only use pardons for friends/acquaintances

yes knowing of their case. knowing the practicalities of the charges and stuff, ofcourse.. to make a determined decision to pardon someone you need to know of the case they were found guilty of. but thats way different to "knowing someone"

i dont think trump/CZ were in same same friend group/social clubs. but trump should atleast know of the charges, mitigating circumstances and why a pardon is worthy.. or atleast had informed recommendations from his advisors(son)

Yes of course trump has eaten bribe about this guy cases or someone he listen to has put mouth in that matter ,why would he said he don't know him,but all the same let's just watch and see how it plays out for them.

When it suits him, he definitely knows someone, and is good friends with them personally, making up stories and praising them for praising him.

When it doesn't. He never really knew much about them. He talks about them being crazy leftist lunatics and picks them a nickname as a childish "dominance" move.

He clearly pardoned CZ because he gave so much money to him, and now he has been told that looks really bad for him, so he is distancing himself in eyes of the press as long as necessary.

It is a little bit shocking that a President could pardon someone without knowing who they are...  It shows how much Trump relies on the people around him to make decisions.  I don't think this is uncommon either.  Do a google search or contact some lawyers and you will find that pardons come with a price tag.  Not just Presidential pardons either.  Governors are cheap (around $30,000) to buy pardons from (if you believe lawyer advertisements) and I'm sure that pardons are available at every level of government for a price. 

Still...  This is not a good look for Trump.  Even though Biden probably couldn't name 5% of the people he pardoned (I'd bet on it).

yea bro! i swear that statement definitely sounds hard to believe in a million years to come but it is kind of a pattern with Trump when something becomes controversial, he quickly distances himself from it. saying he doesn’t know CZ after a presidential pardon feels more like political damage control than truth! i wouldn’t be surprised if someone in his team handled the whole thing quietly and now he is just trying to act unaware of it. politics and crypto money can mix in strange ways so maybe there is more going on behind the scenes than we are being told

He probably just looked at the pardon papers and just based it on how things went. But I don't think that he's got no idea of who CZ is. He's in crypto as he has always said and aware of the richest in his country. Binance has got a US dedicated platform for their US citizens so I wonder why he has said that. But giving him the benefit of the doubt, it's also possible that he truly doesn't know him and just don't want further drama to stop people's speculations. There is no need to make things big just because Trump has said that.

So if I may asked, what benefits do you think Trump stands to gain by lying he doesn't know CZ just as you claimed above? Is it political or economical?. Because to be frankly speaking, if Trump said he doesn't know him, then it is obvious he know him at all, despite granting him presidential pardon for his case. Because it is very possible he could have came across his case, read it to know if his allegations were authentic or just a means by the previous government to frustrate his business. So it is absolutely nothing to worry about, most especially judging by Trump's personality as the most powerful man in the world and has lots of cases and petitions he handles each day. And could approve or pardon some cases without knowing who the exact individual is.

The President of the US has so many responsibilities that he might not have an in-depth knowledge of all the people he is granting a pardon to. The list might have been compiled by his aides or advisers.

The same thing happened in my country, and it received a national backlash. The convicts that were granted pardon were high-profile killers, kidnappers, drug dealers and others. The list had to be readjusted and some of the pardon were cancelled. It was later discovered that the list was compiled by presidential aides who might have collected financial inducement from these convicts.     

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5549711.msg65578749#msg65578749 This is my post about how CZ may have helped Trump with their token it is alleged because Trump did not accept helping CZ because of the hand he gave them with their token. Trump should know or have heard about CZ even if it was during CZ’s legal problems.
If it will be bad for his name Trump will say he doesn’t know him.

You posted a link to the section, not to the post 😉

Trump said he doesn't know CZ which he made it obvious that he granted him pardon after he had pleaded guilty of the alleged crime accused. We don't know if Trump was being sincere that he doesn't know him or not but that isn't convinceable because him as the US president can't just discharge someone with a criminal charge like that without knowing his background or even having to scrutinize his case files properly for efficient justification.

That respond that he doesn't know CZ is really controversial of try to examine what Trump was up to. Although CZ was admitted not being directly committed the offense, rather, his offence was the breaking or the AML law with the binance exchange. So it can actually be argued that Trump doesn't know him as claimed that he was too busy and since CZ had pleaded guilty there'll be much time to delay the judgement. Maybe out of haste he granted him him pardon.

If Trump, says that he doesn't know CZ we should understand that it is a political statement, it is impossible for him not to have heard about CZ and his accomplishments like Binance, afterall he pardoned the guy. 'I don't know him, could mean that he doesn't have or want to have any business with him or he doesn't like the person of CZ, political and influential people denies knowing another notable person that that they don't want to have any dealings with. I know that in politics there is no permanent friends and enemies, what is constant is interest so don't be surprised if Trump, starts to sing praises about CZ in the future when their interests aligns.

Over the months Trump became the president he's never comfortable answering questions regarding crypto. He knows CZ but for his contenders like the democrats he wouldn't openly accept knowing someone whose profile is linked to crypto money laundering. Also nothing is wrong if he claims not to know the same person he granted amnesty.

Trump is a crafty and self serving businessman and politician. For him, personal interests always come first, even higher than national interests. So regardless of whether he really doesn't know CZ like he says or not. But there will certainly be benefits that Trump will receive from the pardon deal for the Binance boss.

In politics, there are no permanent friends or enemies, only permanent interests. This may not be true of some other politicians, but it has always been true of Trump.

He knows him. He know who he is and he has given given him a pardon as a kind of deal where it is very probable Trump will get benefited with future businesses with CZ and the new crypto company Trump family is building.
I would not be surprised if Binance or CZ himself started to endorse and advertise the Trump token or even the company set up by Trump, in order to increase the value of those assets in the hands of the Family of the president.

I don't have any evidence but I don't have any doubt either, this is a favor CZ will have to pay in the future to the Trump family, specially when there is a need of money or influence for Trump to defense himself from countless legal accusation when he term is over.