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In October, mother-of-pearl shells lost more than 10% of their value. However, cryptans are not despondent. With every thousandth drop in the price, the hysterical cries that the trend is about to reverse and November will be a month of record growth grow louder.
But those who shout like that are either clinical idiots or liars and scammers.
I'll say it again: "Trees don't grow to the sky!"
This MMM has reached its limit. And then... Look what happened before...

That seems to be it but I'm still waiting for the year end and to say that it's already been concluded. I get what you mean by that and that's the hopes of the bulls are likely gone and mostly with those who are waiting for the altcoin season.

The October didn't show the good expectation that have been waiting for because we have based it on the historical table that we've seen in the records.

However, it's not yet done or if it actually is, the market is going to keep on dropping. But can't break it until we finally see that it's real done.

What do you expect when you come over to this board? Guesses...

That's what it is and nobody can actually give precise knowledge of the price of bitcoin at any point, all they do is guess and predict. They do this from the sentiment that they can deduce form current and historical charts but the price don't always do exactly as it is predicted. Trading with caution I think is the right kind of mode to follow the board. Don't just believe in what the soothsayer say but use the right trading idealogy of risk management.

I was one of those who greatly believed in Uptober but October didn't necessarily produce much good results, just to remind us that bitcoin doesn't really follow any definite trend like predicted. The year isn't exhausted though, I'm still very much optimistic that the markets would recover but not really to create another ATH this bull period.

The markets keeps moving in the negative direction and is currently at $105k but we've seen such dips in this bull run and it recovered really fast. Until the year is over I'm still very optimistic on bitcoin.

The MMM I know is a worldwide Ponzi Scheme that swindled some greedy people. The scheme offered high profit within a short period and many people who wanted to make quick money invested and lost money when the scheme collapsed.

Bitcoin is not a get-rich-quick quick, hence investors should have a long-term plan. The price is unpredictable; you don't have to expect too much from it. For me, Bitcoin has performed more than I expected this season. If you are still expecting Bitcoin to hit another ATH this season, it might not happen. I might also ne wrong because nothing is certain.

Bitcoin has really dropped. I am sure a lot of people are now worrying about what will happen with bitcoin in these last two months. But I have decided to tough it out. I refuse to believe that the bull run is now truly over. I’d accept it if it continues next year.

This shows and verifies the one particular feature that have made Bitcoin this special which is volatility and it tells you that there is actually nothing that is certain with the market especially for those guys that claim they know and understand fully the rhythm of how the price moves. Uptober was the talk and everyone expected the price to surge up but in as much as the expectations was high I think everyone should have lay low and still have the plans of holding on long because the market can flip anytime and the green can come even when it looks like the year is almost gone and finished. Some of my friends the other day were making mockery that how is price now because I actually speculated that Bitcoin will get around to 150k before the year ends but I told them that this is what makes Bitcoin special as even now that price target can still be met on the right bullish move.

You have decided to tough it out while I have decided that there is no problem, over here we are not worried about bitcoin in the remaining months of November and December in 2025.
The worry should about the world economy and if china and the US will hug things out and end the uncertainty. The bull run can still come this month November or next month December.

After spending years in crypto, I came to know that it's almost impossible to predict the future price of Bitcoin. It's recommended to invest after doing necessary research and do not pay any attention on market speculations. As far October 2025 is concerned, Bitcoin rises to it's ATH at the beginning of the month and then went down. Such ups and downs are part of the market and it's not the first time happening with Bitcoin. Those who invest for long term, do not bother such dips because they know price will recover eventually.

The depreciation in cryptocurrency's value now is getting alarming and a need to have a rethink on bitcoin investment now calls for questioning. Am not of the opinion that bitcoin's price will not go back to normal but we should invest with caution now that everything can be responsible for its price increment including  political instability and change in government policies which we all know where not like that before.
From the original characteristics of bitcoin, its price where driven by constant que in the demand for investment and not  politics, so since its plan has changed investments now should be done with caution

The expectations were generally a bit high in October, it did not materialize, but I still hope that if not in October, then it will definitely be able to rise between November and this year. There are still about two months left, and the market will show potential again within these two months. But I definitely do not want to mislead the common people with any wrong message. There are some coins in which long-term investment can give good returns, and there are some that will be lost in the long run. I definitely will not support those who want to harm investors with that false information.

This is not something to be afraid of because Bitcoin has been doing well since it started and there is no harm or fear for us, so we should think about it and invest, but it is not too difficult for us. Bitcoin is still running on a large scale and other things, so many things are now running with Bitcoin and their price. If it gets into it, then Bitcoin will become very popular and as long as other people who are against crypto understand, there are many things that will accept Bitcoin. If Bitcoin makes its way into politics with some more progress, it can change the whole system, the way it is governed.

The bull isn't gone yet, we're still above the $100k mark which was the target of many. And if China and US economy war continues, there is more movement that we're going to see to the market for Bitcoin. There is still hope for some bullishness for this cycle in 2025. But once we start to leave it, welcomed the new year of 2026. It's another year that's going to give uncertainty for many holders. As you've said, there is no problem and we shouldn't be worried even if we're past the two months for this year and that 2026 has come.

We all believed in uptober, no one actually saw the dip coming because we know that October is supposed to be a bullish month based on historical records but this was where we had it all wrong, always thinking that it's possible for thr market to go in the same direction is wrong, there might be a slight change or a big one when we least expect it. Everyone that has benefited from bitcoin is still optimistic about it. A dip or crash is not always permanent, there would come a time when bitcoin is going to be of high value invest why.yiu still can.

I believe most investors and even traders have learned a vital lesson from the just passed October, which is; historical records will not always be right and accurate to predict the future of bitcoins. This vital lesson will not be forgotten in a hurry or in a rush as this month will be in the reference for many for years to come, a month where they expected a lot from bitcoin and its performance but became disappointed.

As for the trend of bitcoin, it will surely be bullish again, new investors should consider it an opportunity to buy more bitcoins and hold because the red candles will get green again.

I think this is not what we call as a bull run because we are on that level for a long time now. With what is said earlier, people which target is $100k might have sold their coins already long time ago and has moved on now to another higher price target. A war must be a negative event, so that can even delay things for BTC and can even dip its price evenly. Oh well, we can only hope the best for BTC and also for the rest.

Uncertainty is always there. This is why investments, especially the crypto one is called as speculative but another new year is always equates to another new hope for the many of us. There should be no problem as long as we are only investing in the safe coins and then we know the rules which is to buy continuously and HodL strongly if we are not up yet.

You say about the MMM site being a Ponzi scheme or something. If it's about MMM, that scam has been around for a long time, not just in October 2025.
But if we're talking about the price of Bitcoin, there won't be any extreme price drops in 2025 that would make traders cry. Bitcoin's movement in October 2025 will still be standard, with no extreme price movements that could make people cry.

Bitcoin is a bubble, bitcoin is dead, bitcoin is dying, bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme! All this has been around even before I got into crypto and know bitcoin in particular but from what I have seen it has always proved itself.

I know some will not understand the concept of this thread but I do under it very clearly, bitcoin is doing so well regardless of its current situation of ups and down with no clear predictions of when the boom will happen and that is one good thing about volatility.

Op, if you think the Ponzi which bitcoin is not has reached its limit, take a seat get a bottle of bear and watch how things change. I just op this thread stays so I can make reference in future.

I truly believed in October, and unfortunately, this time it wasn't the October we hoped for. But I'm still hopeful for the coming months, and I still don't think it's over. The cycle continues, and I don't think it's over. The phrase "Bitcoin is finished" is something we hear every time Bitcoin falls, and we don't give it much credence here.

Bitcoin is performing well, and these declines are simply part of the volatility. For October, it reminded us once again that we shouldn't rely on historical data.

One thing that we know is that Bitcoin is not dead and still survives in the hardest situation. That should make people not think much about the bad things but they should still hodl on to their Bitcoin and they don't have to panic.

This situation will end soon so nothing to worry but stick to your plan to accumulate Bitcoin as your plan. No need to often check the price because that can shake your emotions and finally make you panic. You should stay calm and remove your fear because you will not see when the opportunity comes and will miss the train.

Bitcoin is not MMM dude. It's a volatile asset so, expect a price swing. You can call shitcoins MMM  ;D

However, what happened in October shows that we cannot use past record to judge the future performance of bitcoin. It wasn't as if nothing happened before the dip. US is manipulating the price of the market because they have more investors than the rest countries. Trump was the cause. If the bull run isn't over, the price will surely, bounce back.

Going into the market shouldn't come with fear, panic or lost of control because you're coming in with the understanding of the associated risk involved, if you can't afford it, then don't go for it, for anyone to invest or trade already have the knowledge of the conditions attached, we should never feels sorry for any of our actions over the investment made in bitcoin, except we go outside this into other coins.

Bitcoin is like the mother-of-pearl shells of the Papuans of Tahiti.
The whites manipulate the market price because they're curious to see how the Papuans will react.

bitcoin is not a guaranteed profit especially in the short term and actually that’s what makes it authentic or real

you should be concerned if an asset is consistently going up because most likely it’s gonna crash and be forgotten
i don’t know if trump purposely do it or simply his policies end up hurting bitcoin market more why would he want the market to dump when he has a lot of stakes as well?

The fall in crypto prices recently has made a lot of people start thinking twice about investing again and that’s completely normal because when the market starts acting unstable and prices keep dipping it creates fear even for long term holders. But just like you said this isn’t the first time Bitcoin has gone through this kind of phase and it won’t be the last one either every big correction always feels like the end but later it becomes another chapter in the growth of Bitcoin the difference now is that external things like politics government regulations and even world conflicts are starting to have more effect on the market than before back in the day it was mostly about demand and supply from individuals but now that big institutions and countries are involved the reactions are much more complicated. That’s why it’s smart to say we should invest with caution this isn’t the kind of market where you just throw all your money in and expect profit in a few months you’ve got to be patient plan your entry well and avoid getting caught in the hype if you think long term and don’t panic during dips you’ll see that Bitcoin always finds a way to bounce back.

I had to shake my head and feel sorry for those who had only been fond to hail Bitcoin when the price is up and frowns when price falls.
I am also trying as much as I can to understand the psychological disturbance of those who are misunderstanding the implications of volatilities and the phenomenons of Bitcoin values with the potential edge to control inflations in the long term.

I understand the state of skepticism and how the critics has always hong around the corners and just waits for Bitcoin price to fall so that they can begin to launch propagandas triggering more investors psychologies in the meantime.

Meanwhile... In the very close time they submits their regrets in the past for doubting and taunting Bitcoin when the prices recovers especially around the era when market lines are greenish and investors are testifying like it is a festive period to multiply their returns in the very huge ratios.
If you say Bitcoin is one of the kind MMM Ponzi scheme, that is your own cup of tea.

Definitely trees has their limits even as some grows taller than others. However, even if they want to rate a tree  among trees not sky, they forget that the storm can happen to break its branches even when weather dictator didn't say storm and the storm may not happen even when weather doctors says so.
 The storm may not necessarily uproot the tree, even if, the family and seeds remains and growing continues but not immediately but on its time.
Predictions is 100% absolutely uncertain that's 50% it can be and 50% it might not be. It's only ascertained when it has happened. Getting it right yesterday doesn't mean you'll be always correct.

Your last statement falls to the Melody of those who are in for short term trading whereas a long term investors will only feel and advantage ls of the present circumstances to even buy more at a discounted price compared to buying from the previous highs, the discussion should have fallen under speculation and not a direct link to economics, you are right about how the price doesn't always do exactly as predicted historical statistics are only to give a guide of a future occurrence but not as guarantee to happen but however, it is very wrong for the op to refer Bitcoin to be some sort of MMM.

If you have understand the influence of economy and geopolitical news in the crypto markets with how it manipulates investors psychologically, then putting to considerations with the Trump's new tarrif news and the critical clamouring geopolitical global crisis ongoing with the US and other countries, then you will find reasons to understand that the market can be manipulated while bitcoin may remain potential reliable assets in the long time.
Moreover this is not the first bitcoin price falls that it seemly to take the breaths of the skeptics away. Perhaps Fomo is real and we should learn from those who reacted out of lack of emotional controls. Volatilities has a time for trauma and a time for jubilation for those who get hold to short term goals.

Well, it seems that we're getting out of it. The price is closing in to $101k.

And that safe coin is no other than Bitcoin. We just keep on holding it and accumulating for as long as we can. Because not everyone has that privilege to keep their Bitcoins. At some point, they have to sell because they need to and that's the only solution that they have for themselves. As the price keeps on dropping, this is like the other correction that we've got last time but this is much deeper than that.

I'm not expecting much from November either. The beginning of the month has already been pretty bad, and we can see the market slowly losing value, and it seems like it's getting deeper. The price of Bitcoin was around $106k before a few hours, and when I checked an hour ago, it was around $104k, and it might have dropped more since then. The point is, that November, so far, is not showing any bullish signs; maybe we should wait and see what happens by the end of the first two weeks, and then draw a conclusion.

I personally believe that we are gone through the bull run already, and those who are optimistic for the market to have another wave of the bull run should reduce their expectations and start preparing for the time when the bear market actually kicks off, because if you are only thinking about the bull run, or keep waiting for another wave of it, you might not prepare yourself both mentally and financially for the bear market, and that's not going to be good if you have had plans for it.

Even those who have been investing in crypto for many years and those who have been involved with it for many years cannot predict the future of Bitcoin. It is a volatile currency. Its price always fluctuates. But it is part of the market. Starting from 2008, it has been like this every time it reached the highest ATH. Yet in the long run, Bitcoin has moved forward, silently answering the criticism of all critics. There are many critics who have said that Bitcoin is the last time and it will never make its debut. They have found the answer in the passage of time. So, instead of panicking about the price reduction, one should be patient.

Things won't always go as planned and that's how life, that's why it's wise to always prepare for the worst, even when you that the market is bullish it's important to still be cautious, a lot of cryptans got to comfortable and as a result of that they ended up losing a lot. The month of October taught investors an important lesson, never invest an amount of money that you cannot afford to lose. It's all part of the process of learning

I guess that the majority of us have felt the same way. We thought that October is going to give that much gain but it didn't happened and that expectation led us to disappointment.

And this opening of November, the market did even more terrible from what we've expected as it drops to $100k.

We have to see that, I am also thinking that it's not yet over. Not going to hurt to believe that it's not yet over.

We still have some time for this 2025 before it finally comes to an ending.

I was also being very hopeful that the price can still recover within the remaining two months but the recent drop this month is giving me a double thought and am really having the feelings that the bull run may be over and the bear market is about to surface. The market is experiencing a serious decline and there are no strong indications that the price will make a recovery anytime soon and from how low the price has been moving recently, i doubt if we can even reach $115k again before the end of the year.

Those who have spent time in the crypto market know that this field is completely volatile and challenging. Those who follow the cycle that occurs every four years are those who have switched to traditional investment, but there are always advantages for those who invest in the crypto market.

Bitcoin's traditional four year cycle may be coming to an end. The bull market is now being driven by institutional investors. Previously, small investors could steer the market, but now the situation is completely different. Nevertheless, Bitcoin price movements show similarities, and as of November, happy beginnings may be in store for weary investors waiting in the market.

People always speculate about the price of Bitcoin some will give their prediction how the price will be but no body can predict accurately what the price of Bitcoin will be, Bitcoin doesn't follow what they say. Let's buy the dip and hodl the price can increase unexpectedly any moment from now till december but i doubt if it can get to another ATH this year we should be expecting that from next year.

I think we need to tell our selves the truth that the recent rate of fall of the crypto currency is a bit scary.
I reached an all time high a few .months ago and there was allot of hope for the past months of the year which are OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER but it's seems like these hopes have become just false hope as there clearly seems to be a consistent decline of price of bitcoin overtime.
Offcourse October was promising to be a good month but it turned out to be something else even against records from the past years were October did excellently frome history in time past was has also been confirmed by a few persons here.
I have allot of questions to ask as I also fear the rate of consistent drop.
Are we really sure there's going to a  bullish season any time soon ? Or
Are we going to  keep on experiencing that seems like it doesn't have any time of pause.
What does the future really hold for the bitcoin market?
 

One thing about me is that I don't pay attention to side talks those that claims that they can predict the market very well are all deceiving themselves because I know how often I kept following thier bitcoin Predictions back then but non of thier Predictions works not to talk of getting closer into making the right Prediction, they where very far away from getting the right Prediction.

Since I know that bitcoin is very volatile I don't waste my time in trying to monitor the market or consulting any source to know how the price will look like maybe in the near future or years coming, all I do is to hope that it works according to my plan.

I'm a little confused by what you're saying, but I've also heard of MMM in the past, which eventually disappeared in our area and ceased to exist. My advice is not to blindly trust new platforms, as even exchanges can shut down if there aren't enough users to keep them running. And one more thing, they aren't fortune tellers when it comes to determining Bitcoin prices, so it would be strange to trust them regarding Bitcoin's price, which has generally been declining this month. Furthermore, market trends aren't always determined by price increases; they are now also market trends, even when the market itself is experiencing a price decline.

That's actually a good habit. Relying on someone else with our investments is not what we want in cryptos. For that we have various other options where we can just give the money to our broker and he/she will take care of our investments. With cryptos, we are responsible for every move we make and blaming anyone or just relying on anyone is just going to make things difficult.

The nicest thing here will be we will have someone to blame if in-case we end up in loss but still that is not going to cover our loses and we still have to face the consequences so why to trust anyone else? Cryptos are not that volatile these days. They are unpredictable for sure but somehow have lost their volatility over years after mass adoption wave.

You can never expect any financial source to just go upwards. If it was that easy than almost everyone might have made a huge chunk of money and will be sitting on fresh pile of money every quarter. There will always be downsides which will wipe a few profits giving opportunity for fresh investors to hop in and start their investment journey. A slight dump and we see all this criticism. Bitcoins are meant to be for a long run and these short falls will only make us even stronger.

All we need is faith and ability to hold bitcoins in every scenario. A small dump is always expected but losing hope and criticizing cryptos is not really what we all want here.

We should not blindly follow any platform because many platforms want to earn money with users and they are getting huge amount of money and that is the reason they are living and their business is growing. If you will not invest your money, no one will get profit from you . Always try to be silent and do research as you can then invest in that platform if you have hundred percent confidence. Because we are watching many tokens in the market which want to get more profit in little time . November will be end and market will recover it's loss and people will be in profit and most of the people will take breath with comfort.

In most cases life don't actually give us what we expect and of a truth the month of October came up with alot initially that could test one of their ability to stay put regardless. But for every situation we ought to be positive and face whatever task that's before you. I can't attest to the fact that the past month brought so much regrets and pains to some person's but then we should be mindful of things we indulge ourselves, with aims of getting something tangible and useful.

This is some cryptic thing to say but bearish market don't last forever. Even in the middle of bearish cycle there is occasional rally.

Just because uptober turning out to be rektober. Doesn't mean this month gonna be bad too. Since tariff negotiation is delayed. I'm gonna expect some steady recovery happening for bitcoin and crypto in general.

The panic sellers don't have unlimited supply to sell.

Why does it have to be a sad situation because at the end of the day the decline that occurred is not like a normal thing even after we have increased in almost 2 years so why feel that this is sad because every increase will definitely have a decline.

Indeed, this fact is sometimes a little difficult for some people to accept but in the end we must realize that this will happen sooner or later because this is a cycle that always repeats where when the bullish ends then we must prepare for the transition to bearish conditions and we must prepare for this from now on.
What we need to emphasize is that if we really want to focus then we just have to enjoy. Worry is a natural thing but on the one hand of course we have to keep thinking logically because this is only a temporary decline and when our goal is long-term then it will not have an impact considering our bitcoin is still the same just the value has shrunk a little.

Even if this month still brings sorrow to us, we don't have to lose hope. Every month will give us so we don't have to give up. We can stay until now because we don't give up on trying, because that is what we need to do. Let others feel bad about the market but we believe that there is something that we can get. No need to listen to others saying bad things about the market because they don't know that behind the sorrow, the sun will come and give us warmth. That means we will make a profit again and that could be bigger than before. So let's wait for that time and focus on accumulating.