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Politics will stay a mess till the unlimited money goes away in politics, Citizen's United Supreme Court case.

Been what 15 years or more of such above. Thus the person with the most $$$ in the Primary wins. Thus the more corrupt to $$$ in politics wins.

This 'accelerates' over time to the worst of the worst and in the politics for 'themselves' and not actually to 'accomplish' anything of note are the ones

destined to win the Primary, in that the more they 'bow' to vested interests, the more likely this outcome and distills to the most self centered over time.

You can see this in play now. You have a shutdown which hurts your constituents. If you are the party in power IF you go against the Executive Branch

you lose your Primary...never to darken the door of your particular brand of  Politics again (last three such house Republican speakers who tried to get

bills passed with a mix of both parties on such bills)

IF you follow the Executive and you are giving up Congressional Authority to do so you are golden.You only care about yourself and your re-election.

IF however you 'buck' the executive and 'lose' your primary, no

cushy Ambassadorship, or being a pundit on TV News afterwards. You are branded a tratior and all the $$ you need to get re-elected goes poof from

the vested elite...*see examples of moderates forced out of Congress*

If you "lose' to the Opposition however you are still 'golden' you fought the good fight and lost..but you were loyal to the whatever supposed cause (IMHO $$$)

Also as with most such things with power you can 'only' fall upwards on such you will be fine.

So the 'worst' thing for graft/power/self-interest is to 'lose' your Primary. Even if the USA
 
burns as a result. Parties no longer can threaten withholding $$$ to get people to vote in a certain way. As local politics with unlimited $$$ can be one

without local $$$.

I am discouraged on a way out of this cycle of $$$ in politics today and now to get out of such.

Note: There are a 'lot' of p/o'd moderate Republicans and fiscally conservative Republicans that WILL run in the Primaries of the party in 2026. No Democrat

will win in the South, but again, from the noise a lot of moderate republicans will challenge in the primary. So the catch is 1) will this work and maybe get

something done in Congress on bills as such? or 2) Will they be overwhelmed by the massive $$$ keeping incumbents in place and 'lose' the Primary....by 'vested'

interests in the status quo. I'm pretty Liberal, but I can say with certainty that IF moderate (sane) republicans don't get back into Congress the above will

continue to 'distill' worse and worse people winning primaries and maybe elections over and over again...and constituents concerns or the party in question will

have no sway in a congress running amuck like a herd of cats, responsible only to $$ they can make and power they can keep. :(

Sorry i don't have a lot of faith the current Supreme Court will change Citizen's United and Unlimited $$ directly to Politicians. It will likely get even more harsh

and gridlocked.

I really think your argument isn't fully presented here. I think the bulk of spending in political campaigns is in advertising. What kind of system do you expect to get when voters base their votes on 30 second sound bites. Imagine you are in charge of hiring and firing at a business. Your system is to wait to see if you get a flyer in the mail for anyone. If you like the flyer, you hire the person. That is a fundamentally bad way of decision making and clearly your company is unlikely to do well, substantially motivated by money in office politics for very bad reasons.

It seems the underlying problem is voters who vote entirely based on little sound bites they hear in a video ad, in addition to more fundamental problems like a complete lack of a genuine social contract. The money in politics is a clear problem that many on the left correctly point to, but the solution is proper voting techniques by voters. Instead of a voter voting for someone who does something clearly grossly irresponsible like take on debt loads to finance payment of the basic bills, they should NEVER be re-elected again. And even that only begins to chip away at the problem but doesn't address other fundamental problems.

I'm saying that with 10x the money (ie I run for state office you can still give me 100,000,000 dollars ...ie unlimited) so 10x the advertising.

The real problem is the Parties used to control $$$ for their Candidates to run on their platforms..thus follow their Philosophy..now the majority of $$$

goes directly to the candidate...by passing any party control..thus like herding cats in Congress now among other problems.

I see no work around to change this, seems 'locked' in a loop to continue.

I think you are correct in your assessment regarding Citizen's United in that our current Supreme Court has been under the influence of money as a priority for too long.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckley_v._Valeo (1976)

https://www.movetoamend.org/ has been around for awhile but the political will is not going to be in favor of us people for some time.
Sh!t 'we the people' aren't even in favor of our own interests in America right now.
We (the 99%) aspire to be in the 1% so we root for the wrong side.


In my lifetime 30 years ago just the mention of "buying an election" would have been an absolute scandal.

Politics have been corrupt for some time and now we have the most openly corrupt administration in the history of our country.

Andrew Yang had an idea based on crypto "democracy dollars"
https://2020.yang2020.com/blog/restoring-democracy-rebuilding-trust/

Even if we were to get money completely out of campaigns, we have such a long road ahead.
As citizens our minds have to change and how is that feasible when news is entertainment instead of informative?

Now that regulatory agencies have been gutted or neutered: industry (conscious-less 'establishment' entities that have the rights of persons without the responsibilities)
are gaining even more access and power than ever.

You have a federal government actively going against its people. Covering up an international child trafficking ring while using force against its citizens.
Bragging about how much profit they are making.
Funding the demolition of Gaza so that their buddies can build it back for profit, Building Alligator Alcatraz for profit  ----the oppression is loud and proud but 39% of Americans still approve of the job Trump is doing.

I'm not sure if we know how to be free anymore.