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Title: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Rufsilf on November 11, 2025, 08:01:16 AM As per this article i read (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-central-bank-tightens-rules-virtual-assets-cryptocurrency-2025-11-10/) it says that Brazil just announced new crypto regulations under their central bank. what's interesting is that at first glance, it might look like good news at least crypto isn’t being banned anymore. But the question is, can we really survive under all these new requirements?
Exchanges and brokers now need to go through strict registration, KYC, AML checks, and more compliance stuff. They say its necessary as it brings protection[[[?]]]]] and legitimacy, but at what cost? These rules slowly kill what made crypto special which is freedom and privacy. And honestly, it really feels like the more they regulate the market, the less control we actually have over our own money, and its no longer different in banking with fiat. :( Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: _act_ on November 11, 2025, 08:09:54 AM Exchanges and brokers now need to go through strict registration, KYC, AML checks, and more compliance stuff. They say its necessary as it brings protection[[[?]]]]] and legitimacy, but at what cost? These rules slowly kill what made crypto special which is freedom and privacy. If you want privacy, you can still have it. The fun has been taken away since those exchanges like Binance, Bybit, Kucoin and others started to accept KYC few years ago. It is no more something that is new, but people that still need privacy that are using bitcoin and coins like monero are still trading, buying and selling without KYC. If you want that, learn about it.Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: hero_the_bossman on November 11, 2025, 08:33:44 AM Regulations are the same as control, because they come from the entities that are the epitome of centralization and control.
We decide whether we want to go and do business there or on DEXes / P2P. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: rat03gopoh on November 11, 2025, 08:41:52 AM They say its necessary as it brings protection[[[?]]]]] and legitimacy, but at what cost? These rules slowly kill what made crypto special which is freedom and privacy. In fact, this industry is no longer just Bitcoin. When people lose money due to rug pulls or hacks, they complain to regulators.Bottom line, if you're a BTC maximalist, just ignore it. The state does not regulate private keys in non-custodial wallets. You can still self-custody, multisig, coinjoin, and hold seed phrases without anyone's permission. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: henry_of_skalitz on November 11, 2025, 08:50:28 AM They say its necessary as it brings protection[[[?]]]]] and legitimacy, but at what cost? These rules slowly kill what made crypto special which is freedom and privacy. In fact, this industry is no longer just Bitcoin. When people lose money due to rug pulls or hacks, they complain to regulators.Bottom line, if you're a BTC maximalist, just ignore it. The state does not regulate private keys in non-custodial wallets. You can still self-custody, multisig, coinjoin, and hold seed phrases without anyone's permission. They would complain about it only if it happened on their ground, imo, but you are right: the space becomes less of a Wild West with everyone doing anything, some search for a "protection" that takes away what the space was about from the start. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Z390 on November 11, 2025, 09:14:10 AM It is sad that these people don't want us to have freedom and our own privacy, I don't like it either, now I believe it is in your will to make your final decision either to abandon privacy or fight for it.
All you need is extra digging, do your own research, mixers are down which I don't like too, but privacy coins are still up and running, Peer to peer still exists also, there are few ways you can avoid KYC completely. Few exchanges don't mind KYC requirements for example Tool bit, they will only limit how much you can buy and sell with no KYC passed, some people are also buying and selling on telegram P2P, I only used that service once though. All I have to tell you is do some research, there is always a way. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: FortuneFollower on November 11, 2025, 09:15:32 AM It is sad that these people don't want us to have freedom and our own privacy, I don't like it either, now I believe it is in your will to make your final decision either to abandon privacy or fight for it. All you need is extra digging, do your own research, mixers are down which I don't like too, but privacy coins are still up and running, Peer to peer still exists also, there are few ways you can avoid KYC completely. Few exchanges don't mind KYC requirements for example Tool bit, they will only limit how much you can buy and sell with no KYC passed, some people are also buying and selling on telegram P2P, I only used that service once though. All I have to tell you is do some research, there is always a way. Even with regulations at place (that are there to not to search for loopholes), they will still be found by those that it won't be enough to be convinced to go the "regulated" way ;D It's a natural flow of such a situation. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: rat03gopoh on November 11, 2025, 09:50:47 AM but you are right: the space becomes less of a Wild West with everyone doing anything, some search for a "protection" that takes away what the space was about from the start. Well you see the point, it is the protection seekers who force the government to intervene.It is sad that these people don't want us to have freedom and our own privacy, I don't like it either, now I believe it is in your will to make your final decision either to abandon privacy or fight for it. If you want to maintain practical freedom (not just nostalgia like when the 1 block reward was 50btc), the solution is strong technical literacy and a sensible private policy. You will gain your freedom silently while coexisting with regulations without hating them.Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: AprilioMP on November 11, 2025, 10:21:55 AM Exchanges and brokers now need to go through strict registration, KYC, AML checks, and more compliance stuff. They say its necessary as it brings protection[[[?]]]]] and legitimacy, but at what cost? These rules slowly kill what made crypto special which is freedom and privacy. We in our country of residence have long had the rules of all exchanges requiring their users to complete KYC in order to carry out buying and selling transactions. Crypto taxes are also set and we all comply with them. Not to avoid it, but Bitcoin and crypto are not prohibited, but are used as commodity assets. We can use Bitcoin and crypto for investment or trading but cannot use Bitcoin for payment. There are no obstacles despite establishing such rules rather than completely banning Bitcoin and crypto. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Cekikafa on November 11, 2025, 10:23:46 AM Everywhere same. East -West North or South. Politicians invent laws to protect (suppress ) the little citizen public.
Central banks are the biggest organized mafias in a country. Privacy and money transaction freedom is target again. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: hero_the_bossman on November 11, 2025, 10:24:55 AM Exchanges and brokers now need to go through strict registration, KYC, AML checks, and more compliance stuff. They say its necessary as it brings protection[[[?]]]]] and legitimacy, but at what cost? These rules slowly kill what made crypto special which is freedom and privacy. We in our country of residence have long had the rules of all exchanges requiring their users to complete KYC in order to carry out buying and selling transactions. Crypto taxes are also set and we all comply with them. Not to avoid it, but Bitcoin and crypto are not prohibited, but are used as commodity assets. We can use Bitcoin and crypto for investment or trading but cannot use Bitcoin for payment. There are no obstacles despite establishing such rules rather than completely banning Bitcoin and crypto. Even if they would do that, there would still be DEXes and ways to outrun the system, with risks, but still.. Nobody cannot rule out the crypto for 100%, because it's not under their full control. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Mpamaegbu on November 11, 2025, 10:48:43 AM what's interesting is that at first glance, it might look like good news at least crypto isn’t being banned anymore. But the question is, can we really survive under all these new requirements? Well, it's not all that gloomy if you asked me. Bitcoin lovers wanted adoption. Adoption won't come cheap. It will come with a price that meets governments and their policies midway for various countries. One of such compromises is gradual loss of privacy. We can't have our cake and eat it. Something has to give to get something.Quote And honestly, it really feels like the more they regulate the market, the less control we actually have over our own money, and its no longer different in banking with fiat. :( I don't think it's so. You can transact on Dexs and then get P2P even on trusted social media groups, if you don't want to go through Cexs.Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: FortuneFollower on November 11, 2025, 10:55:38 AM what's interesting is that at first glance, it might look like good news at least crypto isn’t being banned anymore. But the question is, can we really survive under all these new requirements? Well, it's not all that gloomy if you asked me. Bitcoin lovers wanted adoption. Adoption won't come cheap. It will come with a price that meets governments and their policies midway for various countries. One of such compromises is gradual loss of privacy. We can't have our cake and eat it. Something has to give to get something.Quote And honestly, it really feels like the more they regulate the market, the less control we actually have over our own money, and its no longer different in banking with fiat. :( I don't think it's so. You can transact on Dexs and then get P2P even on trusted social media groups, if you don't want to go through Cexs.Also, it would come no matter the case, because BTC is for everyone. It's a natural progression from skepticism to interest to then adoption from the higher places. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: promise444c5 on November 11, 2025, 11:27:57 AM Most stablecoins like USDT,USDC..can be frozen by the issuer so they never really gave a “freedom” vibe, amd from the article that seems to be their target:
“Under the new rules, any purchase, sale or exchange of virtual assets pegged to fiat currency will be considered a foreign exchange operation.” Direct quote from the article. It just adds to what’s already on the ground… If you want freedom and privacy there are ways to achieve that and I’m sure you know them already. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Taskford on November 11, 2025, 12:24:06 PM As per this article i read (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-central-bank-tightens-rules-virtual-assets-cryptocurrency-2025-11-10/) it says that Brazil just announced new crypto regulations under their central bank. what's interesting is that at first glance, it might look like good news at least crypto isn’t being banned anymore. But the question is, can we really survive under all these new requirements? Exchanges and brokers now need to go through strict registration, KYC, AML checks, and more compliance stuff. They say its necessary as it brings protection[[[?]]]]] and legitimacy, but at what cost? These rules slowly kill what made crypto special which is freedom and privacy. And honestly, it really feels like the more they regulate the market, the less control we actually have over our own money, and its no longer different in banking with fiat. :( When government try to regulate things expect that mandatory KYC and other strict regulations will happen. Some may say its harsh actions done by their government but I think if their purpose is to fight money laundering and other financial schemes then I don't see anything wrong with their intentions. Since some its for our own protection from bad actors spreading in this space. Although we cannot deny that we are going to lose privacy due to requirements that we submit, but this will became normal since government can always set rules. I'm starting to adapt with the changes they made and I'm fine with those things they implement as long as they let us use Bitcoin and crypto. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Dogedegen on November 11, 2025, 12:25:47 PM Exchanges and brokers now need to go through strict registration, KYC, AML checks, and more compliance stuff. They say its necessary as it brings protection[[[?]]]]] and legitimacy, but at what cost? These rules slowly kill what made crypto special which is freedom and privacy. This has been the standard for a long time in the EU, in the USA and many other places. The EU will make their rules even more stricter. Why are you scared of something that isn't even new? They are just aligning the industry with the standard that is on the world. There are many reasons for which they must do it this way, I really don't see what is the issue? Yes KYC overall is bad, but that is a different topic. It is not like Brazil alone can decide to not implement KYC and AML. And honestly, it really feels like the more they regulate the market, the less control we actually have over our own money, and its no longer different in banking with fiat. :( This is not true. It is only your own choice that you decide to use exchanges and brokers, nobody can force you to use them.Bottom line, if you're a BTC maximalist, just ignore it. The state does not regulate private keys in non-custodial wallets. You can still self-custody, multisig, coinjoin, and hold seed phrases without anyone's permission. Even if they did regulate it, what would they do about it? Someone who understands how Bitcoin works would not concern themselves with that. It is never going to be possible to enforce such regulation. I think a lot of people get afraid because they don't really know how Bitcoin works.Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Hewlet on November 11, 2025, 01:10:08 PM And honestly, it really feels like the more they regulate the market, the less control we actually have over our own money, and its no longer different in banking with fiat. :( It has always been that once there is any form of move for acceptance, the clause has always been that the government of that country will try to regulate some aspect of it. same way there is a clause in the context of this brazil, there is always clause in other instances just so crypto can be regulated.Till date, the government has not come to accept bitcoin to exist without them being in control of it. they want to regulate it and so, they will always set rules that keeps it under their check their bitcoin in particular will always come out stronger in the midst of those kind of regulation. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: rdluffy on November 11, 2025, 01:58:39 PM Here in Brazil, politicians only want to be in control and collect more taxes for corruption >:(
Unfortunately, that is the truth, and we are a country that is extremely behind in science and technology The government's only focus on crypto is to know how much they will collect and how to regulate them I believe that the vast majority of users will start using cryptos in other ways, p2p, without KYC, and trying to use them directly without going through state control Perhaps with the government's crackdown, BTC will return to being more like Satoshi intended it to be... Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Rabata on November 11, 2025, 03:54:47 PM It is certainly good news that governments are now starting to take a positive view towards crypto. It is also true that even if governments allow it, they are collecting information about all users through KYC, which is hard for a user to be decentralized. People are being deprived of the benefits of using crypto independently. If there is government control over cryptocurrency, people will lose trust in it. Moreover, the main reason why Bitcoin is so popular today is because of its decentralized nature. No matter how hard the government tries, people know what is good for them. Not only Brazil, but many countries are trying to regulate crypto.
Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: uchegod-21 on November 11, 2025, 06:56:35 PM As per this article i read (https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/brazil-central-bank-tightens-rules-virtual-assets-cryptocurrency-2025-11-10/) it says that Brazil just announced new crypto regulations under their central bank. what's interesting is that at first glance, it might look like good news at least crypto isn’t being banned anymore. But the question is, can we really survive under all these new requirements? I have always known that this day will come. Once the government gets involved, they will try by all means possible to still control the system using the exchanges and any platform they can think of. The obvious truth is that many will welcome this development by the government because they don't really care about privacy like real bitcoin enthusiasts do.Exchanges and brokers now need to go through strict registration, KYC, AML checks, and more compliance stuff. They say its necessary as it brings protection[[[?]]]]] and legitimacy, but at what cost? These rules slowly kill what made crypto special which is freedom and privacy. And honestly, it really feels like the more they regulate the market, the less control we actually have over our own money, and its no longer different in banking with fiat. :( In spite of all of these, the government can only tighten regulations, but cannot put an end to decentralization. If only we will do away with the exchanges, the government will be less powerful on matters relating to bitcoin. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: EL MOHA on November 11, 2025, 07:13:18 PM In spite of all of these, the government can only tighten regulations, but cannot put an end to decentralization. If only we will do away with the exchanges, the government will be less powerful on matters relating to bitcoin. Since people have become more comfortable with KYC exchanges do you even think they will bother about this rules again. For me I don’t find this strange because i definitely knew that the government want to get cryptocurrency control or privacy eliminated through the centralized exchanges. And the the interesting part is that this centralized exchanges will definitely comply because that’s the only way they can actually be allowed to operate in the country and this exchanges do not care one bit about what the their users want they simply just want to make the money and That’s why they are actually complying with this laws For me there is still ways to be decentralized if users want and the government cannot interfere with that Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: aylabadia05 on November 11, 2025, 07:25:06 PM <snip> When government try to regulate things expect that mandatory KYC and other strict regulations will happen. Some may say its harsh actions done by their government but I think if their purpose is to fight money laundering and other financial schemes then I don't see anything wrong with their intentions. Since some its for our own protection from bad actors spreading in this space.Although we cannot deny that we are going to lose privacy due to requirements that we submit, but this will became normal since government can always set rules. I'm starting to adapt with the changes they made and I'm fine with those things they implement as long as they let us use Bitcoin and crypto. This suspicion arises because in certain countries, governance systems are still poor, with many inequalities. Furthermore, KYC involves personal data, which can be misused, given that security has not been tested for its effectiveness or vulnerability to breaches. I still doubt their system because I believe they want to control the transaction history of their citizens, while personally being reluctant to have their sources of income revealed. They make rules for the people, but they never account for their money to the people, as their salaries also come from the people. In my opinion, this is just a ploy to subtly ban Bitcoin. Like it or not, we have to follow them. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Rufsilf on November 11, 2025, 10:02:10 PM like monero are still trading, buying and selling without KYC. If you want that, learn about it. what do you mean, if i buy or trade momera in any exchanges i will not be required a kyc? Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: uneng on November 11, 2025, 10:09:16 PM Hard to believe it can get more complicated and bureaucratic than it already is, but since it's about Brazil, also known as "Bostil" (shitpool), you can expect anything!
The only worthy thing in this country is the nature and climate. Everything else here is just an example of what shouldn't be reproduced or adopted by another socities. Regards new harsh regulations on crypto must be due to the fact the government is thirsty for money, so they want to raise taxes from most sources as possible, especially taking into consideration next year there is going to be election for president. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Alpha Marine on November 11, 2025, 10:56:49 PM I must say, I understand the government to an extent, but the problem is, the tight grip they're proposing doesn't really solve the problems they claim to solve. I have not read the complete regulations, but from the article you posted, the regulations don't solve much; they just make things more difficult for ordinary folks who use crypto. I mean, criminals are not going to register on a KYC exchange and use it for their illicit business; they will just use a P2P transaction without KYC.
I know that the government just needs an excuse to get more control, so they use the most convenient, which is "illicit activities", but the community should stop fraternising with known criminals, which gives the government an excuse to tighten the grip. We shouldn't see them are heroes. When they're given presidential pardons, we shouldn't celebrate it, because these people indirectly make life difficult for us because they're part of the reason the government has an excuse to seek more control of the Bitcoin and Crypto industry. Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Dogedegen on November 14, 2025, 12:35:32 PM Hard to believe it can get more complicated and bureaucratic than it already is, but since it's about Brazil, also known as "Bostil" (shitpool), you can expect anything! This has nothing to do with Brazil itself, I have tried to say that here in the thread but most people who respond have not read my post. They are aligning themselves with global rules and it is not like they have a choice. Other countries will sanction or punish them in other ways if they don't do that. That does not mean that these rules are not dumb but we can't isolate Brazil as if they are the only ones who are doing this.Regards new harsh regulations on crypto must be due to the fact the government is thirsty for money, so they want to raise taxes from most sources as possible, especially taking into consideration next year there is going to be election for president. This is not true, please learn where KYC and AML laws come from. There is no need to make generic statements that have no factual basis.like monero are still trading, buying and selling without KYC. If you want that, learn about it. what do you mean, if i buy or trade momera in any exchanges i will not be required a kyc?Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: PX-Z on November 14, 2025, 01:57:57 PM ... What's new? This is pretty standard for any CEX. Most countries that regulate crypto, whether their rules are strict or fairly relaxed, end up having similar structures and policies for exchanges. The only real differences are the specific requirements, the fees involved, and the overall cost of complying with each country's regulations.Exchanges and brokers now need to go through strict registration, KYC, AML checks, and more compliance stuff. They say its necessary as it brings protection[[[?]]]]] and legitimacy, but at what cost? These rules slowly kill what made crypto special which is freedom and privacy... Title: Re: Brazil’s new crypto rules for me is not a good news... Post by: Boiboi20 on November 15, 2025, 02:51:37 PM It is certainly good news that governments are now starting to take a positive view towards crypto. It is also true that even if governments allow it, they are collecting information about all users through KYC, which is hard for a user to be decentralized. People are being deprived of the benefits of using crypto independently. If there is government control over cryptocurrency, people will lose trust in it. Moreover, the main reason why Bitcoin is so popular today is because of its decentralized nature. No matter how hard the government tries, people know what is good for them. Not only Brazil, but many countries are trying to regulate crypto. It is great to see more government becoming open to crypto but there is a trade off with all the KYC requirement it is getting harder for people to actually use crypto in a decentralized way when the government steps in too much it can make people lose trust especially since bitcoin became popular because it is independent no matter how much regulation they try to push people still know the value of true decentralization and it is not just Brazil lot of countries are moving towards stricter crypto rules. |